The real reason balisongs - butterfly knives are illegal

A personal Theory rambling about the reasons I believe the butterfly knife balisong was made illegal to carry in so many places across the planet
first balisong Hom Specter Elite
Second balisong Benchmade 87

[@cafenightster4548]

It's my right to cause harm to myself by accident, no one shall infringe on this.

[@thegamingpharaoh6996]

or on purpose

[@thegamingpharaoh6996]

@@kolohaksja2260 a simple cut can be taken care of with an alcohol swab and a bandage, no paramedics needed

[@Lugermonger35]

@@kolohaksja2260 that argument dose not hold up if that where the case it would still be a problem balisongs are legal to own in several places they are not legal to carry on your person if inconveniencing emt's was the reason for baning them in public the courant laws would not address that

[@joshglover2370]

@@Lugermonger35 My state has no restrictions on balisongs, and people aren't crowding our emergency rooms with self inflicted knife wounds! 🤣 We also have no restrictions on automatic knives, and very loose gun laws... And some of the lowest crime rates in the nation! 😀

[@kylecampbell2501]

If universal healthcare passed then I vote they be illegal because I don't want to pay for your medical bills hhaahhaha

[@keaganwalker8004]

Two handles = twice as deadly

[@hugohansson8702]

Keagan Walker i like how this is ironic but actually kinda true lol

[@sto-humanfriendly]

two blades = twice as safe

[@thehandturkey8484]

2x less likely to drop it

[@maddoxhunt1446]

Lol true

[@jimmythecacodemon2397]

Politician logic

[@kaizoebara]

Automatic knives were invented not for self-defense but for the ladies. You heard that right. As old timey slip-joint folders could be really hard to open - therefore often called 'nail-breakers' - a knife that opened at the push of a button was invented to spare the ladies' fingernails. Sure, later on that feature was used in defensive blades, too, but it started out rather benign.

[@zaidlacksalastname4905]

While it makes a lot of sense, it still surprised me

[@yeetskeetson8888]

Dynamite was invented to make mining easier. Doesn’t make it less deadly though.

[@kaizoebara]

@@yeetskeetson8888 Well... the receiving party of a stabbing won't mind whether the knife was opened with a button or a nail nick, or whether it is a fixed blade. All they'll care about is blade length and how much of it the assailant is able to plunge into their flesh. That said, some automatic knives, more specifically certain types of OTF, are indeed less dangerous than other knives, because the blade tends to collapse under impact.

[@zzap752]

Just Casually has a frag Grenade

[@Lugermonger35]

It's been disarmed

[@anderseckstrand7033]

It’s obviously had the explosive compound removed.

[@jimbob4223]

You dont

[@thatonecat3518]

And a 50 bmg and a 20mm casing

[@naythanbyrum]

@@Lugermonger35no shit 🤣

[@dsagent]

I live in NYC and I have to carry around a trainer since the police can randomly search you. The criminals seem to walk around with weapons just fine though. Also I hate that whenever I see a bali I like it gets sold out immediately.

[@scowler92]

Laws are written to protect criminals.

[@thecydonianknight6849]

Actually they can't legally randomly search you because of the 4th amendment

[@dsagent]

@@thecydonianknight6849 They will anyways after 9/11

[@picax8398]

@@scowler92 exactly

[@ryanmosley8250]

@@dsagent id sue i need that money

[@andrewgrant2423]

"you can't die from flipping a balisongs" Me: accidentally throws it twords my face...

[@andrewgrant2423]

@CodyTheMemeLord ripp😂

[@levisteben5118]

Me:accidentally spins like bayblade at neck after bad flip

[@kweenie2086]

Grenade still chilling. On your table.

[@anderseckstrand7033]

It’s definitely had the fuse taken out. I don’t think he would advertise a felony possession on camera. Go to any military surplus store and you can pick one up for yourself. 👍

[@hellothere_24]

@@anderseckstrand7033 I remember reading a story of some guy who bought a grenade from an antique store that accidentally blew up on him

[@PD5K]

When I was a beginner with Balisongs, I was practicing my aerials with my BM Morpho 51. I missed my air grab and that weehawk tip went roughly 1/4" into my knee, hitting a major artery. If I wasn't smart and hadn't tied my leg off with a belt, I most likely would've bled out. This was an extreme case of negligence on my part, and have since put a Flytanium trainer on my 51. ,This is not at all representative of the community and I'm only sharing this story because it's relevant. With that said, I've gotten much better and my BM 87 is probably the nicest Bali I've ever used. I always seem to get way more into focus when I'm using the 87, since it's a live blade. Have fun and watch the bite!

[@dominicmcelroy3446]

PD5K holy crap

[@dominicmcelroy3446]

You got an insta or snap so we can talk I wanna see your tricks I just ordered a trainer my first balisong

[@acr8356]

Wow did you have to amputate it?

[@chucklesdeclown8819]

i've heard of and seen some extreme injuries and that's why i dont do the more riskier aerials(like neck grabs, why would you want a sharp object so close to a vital spot) unless its a trainer.

[@acesplays4078]

@@chucklesdeclown8819 its better to do tricks like that with a trainer first , get the motions down and the technique , then go to the real blade and let it fly , me personally i put duct tape along the blade and tip when im flipping and trying a new trick that ik im prone to losing control of the knife

[@9SS94Cr]

My thoughts exactly for many years. Just like bans on the automatic knives, it was a leftover feature of the outdated law attempting to control one-hand operated knives.

[@polycorvia8352]

I think it's just becuase people think Cool = Scary

[@ryanmosley8250]

Look at Ar-15s

[@thethingfromchernobyl7047]

@@ryanmosley8250 not just ARs, all black rifles because when weapon is black it's more dangerous according to "some" people

[@CheesyTornado]

@@thethingfromchernobyl7047 nah i feel like people have heard of more incidents involving ar-15s so they take that as the most "dangerous" gun out there.

[@guidomonto3742]

I’m pretty sure that it was a symbol of intimidation for certain gangs. Same goes with the switch blade.

[@themawsjawz_9491]

Feel good legislation and Hollywood. Like everything else. I would be just as intimidated with a Buck 110 pressed against me as I would a balisong. I don't give a shit how the aggressor opened it.

[@Lugermonger35]

Damn straight exactly

[@brianc9374]

the buck locking hunter got some publicity in the 60s for some stabbings, i think the navy stopped selling them on bases.

[@TherealFreckleGinger]

Found your channel a few days ago and just can’t stop watching! You’re like the coolest dude on KZbin, keep it up

[@comstormer89]

I like the hom basilisk personally but nice flex man the collection keeps growing, and ur flipping is getting better every vid too so keep up the good work👍🏻

[@the_vileblood]

im lovin the shirt! I know how it feels

[@slate8881]

Hey Man I've been watching since 200 subs love the vids also how was you christmas

[@janeflawson8620]

I love smaller channels that can respond to people,(kris da Bali guy, lugermonger) it makes the channels feel more genuine

[@waves966]

Is it just me or at the start you sounded like the cookie monster on heroine 😂😂

[@Lugermonger35]

Cookie Monster on heroin... just switching addictions

[@thecydonianknight6849]

People can be hurt or killed by slipping in the shower or by falling down the stairs yet neither stairs nor showers are illegal

[@totalabes596]

Man that’s deep especially the part about 1 handed operation and that it is not a valid aurgument anymore which is why balisongs are becoming legal again

[@John_Wick69]

Oh no someone flashes a balisong in my direction i just pissed shat and came at the same time

[@liamike6481]

_disk scratch_ "You may be wondering how I got here"

[@skippybarrios.9764]

You know you kinda look like Ben who works at bladehq

[@GutiTheJ]

What isssssssss up guys

[@Creed034]

He is Ben. Jared is his alias

[@richardcameronlewis]

Great commentary, sir. Thanks for the video. I agree with much of what you've said. I would also like to add, people typically fear that which is unfamiliar or unknown. We're pack animals and it's in our DNA. The balisong is a far less common knife and somewhat exotic to many non-knife folks. Additionally, few knife enthusiasts are willing to put in the time, training, and cuts to reach a reasonably safe level of competency wielding a balisong. These facts make the balisong rarely seen in public, shrouded with fear and mystery, as well as poorly understood. Plus, Hollywood doesn't help. Good guys carry Buck 110's and bad guys carry bali's.

[@Lugermonger35]

I don't think people take that into consideration enough we are animals are instinct is as much of a pole for us subconsciously as it is for a dog or a deer we just had the ability to rationalize it and decide whether or not to follow but the Instinct the urge is still there whether it's fear desire sexual impulses all of it we're freaking animals

[@richardcameronlewis]

@@Lugermonger35 Agreed. The only that's really evolved since we were beasts is the ability to fool ourselves into thinking we're not beasts. Also, that's a sweet Hom you scored. I bet it flips like lightning. Grats and Happy New Year.

[@objectifiedslime7891]

I 100% agreed with the first part I was 1 second away from dying while skiing. And I definetly took more hospital time then someone who failed a zen rollover on a balisong.

[@LandonHarrison]

Wassup Slime Rancher player

[@objectifiedslime7891]

@@LandonHarrison Sup.

[@rottis5042]

i like this pov it feels like im actually in his house on a chair listening to him talk about balisongs

[@vichayb]

Where did you get that shirt?

[@oliverwright6215]

In the uk, where I live balisongs are completely illegal, like illegal to own one. I was about to buy a trainer but then saw a DIY tutorial on how to make one out of popsicle sticks so I did and all it cost was paperclips popsicle sticks and a bit of superglue

[@laxmechanaia6031]

this is why I want a balisong and try to train to use it using a popsicle stick one

[@nahbro3965]

This was so entertaining!

[@pesticidecarts9300]

Can you please review a cccp ak automatic knife?

[@clariidfisherman3702]

sweet tee. where to get?

[@Jay-pl1bj]

Is it legal to own in Victoria but not to carry or is it just straight out banned?

[@erhon5]

Where did you get that shirt!?

[@anotherrandomtexan25]

Aside from agreeing with all your points... where can I get that shirt?!

[@offlineegg_gaming3584]

Can you carry them in NC?

[@ClaíomhDClover]

I want to carry my bm87

[@apingo4540]

How did you get yours?

[@isquirtmilkfrommyeye]

Ok, so I’m looking for that knife. Did you say “home Spector elite”? Any idea where I could find one?

[@Lugermonger35]

"Hom" Hom Design Spectre which are hard to find the elite version I have here with the blue and the gold was a Blade HQ exclusive only 85 produced probably hard to get a hold of but you can find a Hom Spectre on the secondary Market every once in awhile

[@kaizoebara]

Yeah, it's all about those voters who think like Mrs. Lovejoy from the Simpsons: "Won't somebody please think of the children!" As a politician you can get votes by pushing laws that make you look like you do something to increase public safety, eg. by banning those _awful_ butterfly or switchblade knives.

[@gaijininja]

From an Australian point of view (They are illegal here also.) and applying physics to the story, a lock blade knife is fairly useless at stabbing, and most people using one for nefarious reasons know this, so they slice. The thinner blade, and sometimes questionable blade lock means the blade can snap, bend, or fold onto the holders fingers. After all, the knives were designed for cutting. They are based on older designs that were working knives. No where do you need to stab when cutting sheet, rope, leather, offal, ligaments... Meanwhile, with the much thicker blade, double lock that is as strong as the holder's hand, and the long thin spike like blade shape, means it can be used to stab, stab deep, and hit important organs. Stabbed into the solar plexus, it can cleanly cut through the descending aorta. Victim is dead. Stabbed in the temple, traumatic brain injury to both sides of the brain. Stabbed into the chest, pierced heart, even if there is a rib in the way. They are banned because they can kill, kill fast, kill effectively. Reality is, cutting roast in the kitchen with a carving knife is more likely to cut yourself than with a balisong. Damn, back in the 80's when I had two, with no online resources to teach me, but only Cacoy "Boy" Hernandez' wonderful book, I taught myself, and never once cut myself in the slightest.

[@brianc9374]

Untrue. People are stabbed eevry day and you never hear about lock failures. im sure it happens, but realistically how often?

[@gaijininja]

@@brianc9374 Consider this, if a knife works, and doesn't break, then it's legendary status is spoken about. But' if a knife breaks, it's thrown away, and that type is never used again, so it's negative aspects never get spoken about. I personally have never used a knife on a person, but I know from personal use in other situations, a fixed blade is best for stabbing, a lock blade is best for slicing. Yes, the can both be used for the other job, but it's similar to eating soup or ice cream with a fork. You can do it, depending on the consistency of the food, but a spoon would work better.

[@brianc9374]

@@gaijininja well yes; but....you would see reports in blotter and news reports about assailants receiving medical treatment. I've witnessed, been and. . I alsoo have friends that have the same experiences. Never heard of it, not even with a slip joint. Most folding knives are 2 3/4 to 3 3/4 blade length and are going through soft tissue. Many murder have multiples wounds inflicted, your not seeing the lock failure your talking about. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, just it's not common Doubt me, put on a chain cutting glove and grab some pork ribs, then see if lock fails.

[@reclaimedcreationsnorwalk_2407]

One of the knives behind you the brown and gold one It is like a buck knife flipper how much is it. I’m asking because my grandfather gave it to me like five years ago

[@Lugermonger35]

It is a Buck 110 folding Hunter I've got here

[@gabrielmanguy3407]

I just wanna say this video is good. It explains why they’re illegal very well

[@shanebob618]

What do you think of having licenses for balisongs as a middle ground between both sides of the argument?

[@christianespenhain5728]

in denmark we cant even by the plastic versions i just wanna try to flip it D:

[@jaywilt420-_-2]

Great points

[@grooveT3K]

*attaches some obsidian to a stick*......what....its a tool

[@MrCraftingchannel]

I always thought it was because it was an easily concealable weapon

[@Weretyu7777]

An interesting theory. Not sure if it's true, but interesting none the less. Also, I can see you have a lot of knives. I was just wondering, what type of knife(not necessarily brand or model) do you prefer to carry around with you for regular everyday use?

[@flinchfu]

"Bot wat if he has a poin-ed stick?"

[@brad6817]

Do a Q&A It’s been over a year.

[@sums3166]

'cuts veine'

[@andrewlassen7430]

What's stranger than stumbling across a video talking about knives? Stumbling across a video about knives made by your older brother's friend unknowingly.

[@gestknz4384]

Man got an Australium knife

[@engineerconagher5603]

I made my own butterfly knife, it's not sharp. Is it still illegal to bring it in public?

[@muffininacup4060]

Afaik, at least in my country, they are illegal under 'hidden blade' knives law, which also includes switch blades, auto and etc

[@CerealFetus]

Jared? more like Seth Rogen also where did you get that shirt ? It looks amazing

[@onelastdawn9991]

Its scary this really ticks me off

[@polarbear3218]

When he was listing all those sports I said at the end mx. 😂

[@mersshy1375]

Maybe thay can only sell the training butterfly nife I have been wanting one for years

[@jacombiousthe3rd374]

Is a trainer butterfly knife legal

[@batrachianbill9760]

Nope

[@lethalmadness9603]

Is it illegal in Tennessee ?

[@phillipgolden25]

Where do you get your balisongs? I found some on wish.com but they’re from China so they kinda suck

[@dakotagist7526]

Phillip Golden try benchmade or other reputable manufacturers, it takes money to get quality

[@phillipgolden25]

Dakota Gist Alright cool thanks 🤙🏻

[@Smoothey999]

Get a 51 to start out

[@Smoothey999]

leo gao true. Could always go with edck scales or squiggles

[@nargames]

I WANT THAT SHIRT!

[@chickenbeckerman591]

Which states cite that they're illegal because of finger cuts? Serious question.

[@ThumosTheUnbroken]

they are now legal in tennessee!

[@kmihir2612]

Balisongs are illegal: proceeds to show face

[@squizaaard]

In a lot of places they are illegal to carry in public but legal to possess.

[@thelonerider5644]

I always thought it was because the puritan's greatest fear is someone out there is having fun...

[@augustaspaulauskas91]

I'm from Lithuania and balisongs here are also illegal but me and my friends still flip them and get cut but like we don't carry them outside

[@sofami_etc6223]

Interesting. I always thought it was because they are considered concealed weapons. You learn something new every day i guess.

[@evanflipsspamaccount2425]

Me watching this flipping my balisong:hmmmmm

[@r3ptile584]

Real Reason; They were a status symbol for gangs from ‘78 to ‘87. Those who didn’t carry were considered “low tier”. Police knew it’s unlikely to catch someone actively engaging in criminality. So by criminalizing the knife, they could still get the gang members off the street with just a pat down... Those days are LONG over, but the law still stands 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@anovis1590]

It can be concealed i think that is the main reason same reason a switch blade is

[@mcmoose7830]

If you hit your wrist you can hit a major artery though

[@raemmio2761]

Which states are they illegal in? Just wondering.

[@peebii]

8 months late, but if you still care, they are illegal in Hawaii, Wisconsin, New York, New Mexico, and Massachusetts. I may have missed a couple though.

[@undergroundexplorer8378]

As far as I know, they’re only illegal in Hawaii and New Mexico (and maybe Washington State). Wisconsin legalized them and autos in 2016. They actually are legal in New York as they were ruled in a few court cases to not be gravity knives (and the gravity knife law was repealed in 2019). They’re legal to own in Massachusetts but carrying them seems a bit iffy. In California they are legal to own but subject to the same restrictions as autos for carry (blades got to be under 2 inches).

[@ItzViprin]

think of how many people get killed or heavily injured playing sports like NFL boxing MMA F1 racing and nascar racers and then they ban butterfly knifes cos people dont know how to handle them

[@Oofgo87]

Law makers: “these knives are intimidating and threatening, lets make them illegal for the safety of our society” Guns: …

[@Slippindisc]

You’re totally right and I’ll raise you one. They pass this knife ban legislation as a testing bed, and as a PRECEDENT SETTING AVENUE so that later they can come in and make arguments like “gun violence is a public safety epidemic” and things like that.

[@cores.129]

Here in Brazil blades bigger than 10cm are illegal to carry in some regions of the country. Knives, generally speaking, are kind of a legal grey area.

[@Lugermonger35]

What about automatics and balisongs are they legal to carry if there under 10 cm

[@cores.129]

@@Lugermonger35 Yeah. Legal!

[@427m84]

But are trainer knives like squidy illegal too?

[@batrachianbill9760]

Nope

[@wierdo6088]

In Illinois if your carrying any knife thats blade is over 3 inches illegal

[@joshwarren7569]

Cutlery lover on here.said they have california legal balisong 2" or less.

[@galacticaim9545]

Are the training balisong knife for tricks illegal to????

[@icypg3d660]

Nah

[@MRREE-zw6xc]

I always thought it was weird around were I live you can carry a big ass Rambo Bowie in a sheath draping down your leg but a "scary" balisong is only legal at home :/ makes perfect sense......

[@themadscientest]

May have to do with the open/concealed carry.

[@CaptainCornflakess]

In the uk the knife has to be 3 inches or lower and it's over 3 inches I think that's why in the uk they are illegal but idk

[@preyzen254]

My man has a australium butterfly knife

[@WAFFENAMT1]

Back in the day every wanabe Ninja had one of these, they are now illegal for the same type of reason switchblades and throwing stars are illegal, they are intimidating, and became associated with bad vibes, hopefully the same thing will never happen to flipper knives.

[@blitzkrieg3546]

My first Buck knife at 11 years old , Dad bought me my first Buck knife as i start Boy Scouts . .A big Buck like the Duke Boys tv show - Dukes of Hazzard. . I have small scars on my hands from that knife . It's no big deal . I wasn't careful.

[@yaboyjosh3023]

First time I saw a butterfly knife, assumed the reason was cause people were cutting themselves with it. But then again, your right. You can get Seriously hurt with Anything and it's still legal. You can cut yourself on ANY knife. I guess the real reason is the intimidation of it.

[@loganthesaint]

They should make non locking blades a thing of the past... annihilated my thumb

[@RandomDude-yn3js]

@The Couch Burners sometimes you fuck up.

[@scaryscottishclown7151]

im sure they are illegal because they are a concealed weapon and you can use one hand to quickly open it up, which of course can be very intimidating

[@sinkmc3682]

It's not very concealed tho anyone can spot what a close Bali looks like

[@kekkaishouto2694]

Are trainers legal

[@peebii]

yes. only knives have certain laws

[@Tommygunz838]

Canada switch blades and butterfly knives are illegal. As a 12 year old kid back in the day (I'm 38 now) when I would go to my parents country Chile 🇨🇱 my cousin and I would buy beautiful switch blades and butterfly knifes probably cheap quality but they were really nice designs and colors and we would box them and make them look like presents 🎁 . We got away with it twice arriving in Canada through customs bringing like 10 blades each every time but the third time I tried I was 18 years old and the customs officer took me to a room arrested me and said they were illegal. Long story short it was Christmas eve they let me go but charged me with the title " Smuggling foreign weapons " that's what's on my record 😆 when police stopped me for minor reasons years after they ask what weapons did you smuggle?? They act surprised and shocked lol

[@mikerotch6733]

Nice gladius

[@codvidsandmore1340]

That is really true because you could fall off a skateboard and break your leg which is twice as bad as cutting yourself

[@PapaYosif]

in my country its illegal cuz used alot in street fights but automatics are legal.

[@LentiniJames]

It’s either that or you’re hand slips and it cuts you’re friends throat!

[@elite-delta-1177]

Flexed hard with a $400 jerry hom design. Asks an arbitrary and basic question about butterfly knives.

[@xen9254]

It's legal to carry butterfly knives in my state, so I'm considering the Benchmade morpho. I really hope other states realize how ridiculous knive laws are lol.

[@Lugermonger35]

I love my 51

[@shoiabrigana]

because of the History of origin , the knifes use to kill many people here in philippines

[@menamedwert556]

when the knife is australium!!!!

[@roshansell1804]

The balisong is so easy to conceal. that can make it really dangerous. That is why