The real reason ford stopped making sedans.

[@jlj547]

Bring back the crown Vic put a coyote motor in it,supercharge it, sell it for like 45k that thing will sell like McDonald's dollar menu.

[@jefeshain2068]

Lol they bring the crown Vic back and they’ll put a electric motor in it 🤣🤣🤣

[@eastcoaster3943]

Remake the Mercury Marauder!

[@MrIlovebmw86]

"I wave the ford flag more than anybody" Buys a hyundai

[@aaronallen124]

Because they didn't bring the Falcon here

[@chrisk3195]

I would push my Ford before driving a Hyundai!

[@michaelreitz6838]

I'll never buy that cheap Korean crap.

[@ebsell]

MrIlovebmw86 So what, he’s right Ford cars suck and have for some time. The Genesis is 5 times the car than anything Ford builds, Ford owns the pickup market and that’s what they’re concentrating on. I agree with him 100%. Ford makes some nice cars but many aren’t available in North America.

[@chrisk3195]

EAD

[@transrus1]

Ford should of kept the crown victoria . They missed out. The new coyote 5.0 in the vic would be amazing.

[@marcellowheeler88]

Ford is like Mitsubishi. They know what we want and how to fix it but they have someone higher up with their head in the ground like a damn ostrich.

[@marcellowheeler88]

Boxcar Ent. 1. Politics have nothing to do with this. You're an idiot. 2. I'm the furthest thing from a Hilary Voter. I'm a republican 3. I have a trans am. That's about as American as you can get. 4. You're comment had absolutely nothing to do with my post. 5. You're a fukin potato.

[@marcellowheeler88]

Ehhh just a troll or angry man. Gonna guess a troll by him being a ghost since my last reply lol.

[@boxcarent.3147]

Marcello Wheeler Hey I love Trump too so I let you off the hook I take it all back. Lol.

Boxcar Ent. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

[@stevegarcia531]

Boxcar Ent. Lol @ you

[@Gwolf888]

Sedans are not going out of style Ford is making a bad business move by getting rid of sedans

[@generalzod7959]

Gerard Johnson: yep, gas prices are going up again. Over 3 bucks in my area. Suv & truck sales will drop again.

[@juanzingarello4005]

I don’t think getting rid of sedans is a dumb move because of gas prices. SUVs of today are much more fuel efficient that 20 years ago and have more variety in powertrain options like hybrids and 4-cylinders even small mini-CUVs like say Chevy Trax. Many CUVs have equally as good gas mileage as their sedan counterparts. That being said, I don’t see a spike in gas prices this time around causing people to ditch CUVs in panic. What may happen is a shift in people going for the more fuel efficient powertrain of the same model or downsize to a smaller CUV. What I don’t understand however is where they got this assumption that sedans are dead. I see new Accords and Camrys all the time. This to me seems like they felt they sucked at making sedans so they quit.

[@DubH46]

I agree 1052% with this entire video. That damn Falcon is such a bad ass sedan.

[@robertsestito6821]

Warren Hopkins I bought a SS because Ford didn't have a legitimate offering.

[@DubH46]

Boxcar Ent. Cool story sister.

[@DubH46]

Robert Sestito I was looking at the SS too, but got a used CTS V.

[@The1WhoEatsCake]

Bring me a coyote sedan and I'll buy it right now!

[@NeverLetOff]

Justin Bank ditto

[@manowar5516]

As the owner of a 700whp Crown Vic and a Marauder, Ford missed an opportunity to make the Falcon a Crown Vic replacement. GM did the right thing by bringing Holdens here. Missed opportunity. I would trade both my panther cars in a heartbeat to have owned a Falcon.

[@MAG713]

GM fucked up holden is dead no one was buying the chevy ss

[@sarahann530]

Man O War The SS is not selling so how did Ford miss an opportunity

[@sarahann530]

m4rcd27 Introducing a product knowing it would not sell well , so that's why the taxpayer had to bail out GM

[@t436]

A Conneely SS sold to be NACAR legal. They made a manual one but I never seen a manual car ever. My dealership refused to have a manual on the lot Sonic to Vette unless customer ordered it that way and backed out.

[@dougparker9718]

I agree.they screwed up and Ford and GM shut down shop in ozzland and they shouldn't have.the continental is by far and above the best Ford product sedan.400hp tt v6 awd and the most comfortable seats this side of a damn Bentley or rolls Royce.

[@Falcon500xw]

Don't wanna detract from your remarks; I completely agree. But I just wanted to clarify a bit. Firstly, as of September 2017, Ford Australia stopped producing cars at the wish of Ford global. The 5.4L was used up until about 2014 in NA form. The 5.0L supercharged "Miami" motor was used in the Falcon GT's. (Look at what KPM were doing with them on youtube tuning wise). Ford America (apparently) also took the molds for all the Cleveland stuff to end up creating the Yates cylinder heads etc, which left Ford AU without a V8 in a vehicle from 1982-1991, but only got a Windsor V8 in return. It's a damn shame they're gone. Ford had a Cleveland-style 6 cylinder called the Crossflow 6 (in displacements from 188ci to 250), the SOHC 6 (predecessor to the Barra), and the Barra 6 in turbo and non-turbo variants.

[@franzchong5889]

i am thankful ford australia has not gone down this path(yet)but much like Ford europe their biggest they do currently is a mondeo that cannot be stretched to make a limo.

[@rodferguson3515]

franz chong sorry guy . But ford of Europe is also discontinuing the Mondeo ( Fusion ) and Fiesta as well Lincoln since the MKZ is based on the Mondeo/ Fusion that car may also be discontinued as well .... Big Mistake!!!

[@PimoAn01]

Almost went full YDB on the Ford Company LMAO

[@alannasser3570]

PimoAn01 lmao 😂😂

[@romansoroka6662]

My daily driver is a 2002 Lexus LS430. V8, rear drive, comfy as hell, nice steering feel. Nothing beats a V8 sedan for daily duty. I can pull hard from a stop, cruise at 80 mph on a curvy road, get decent fuel economy and park it in any parking spot. Most SUVs are just big lumps and they drink gas like crazy.

[@backinblack_z0615]

Dblock real your full of shit that Lexus runs a 14.5 in the 1/4 mile. Both the Taurus SHO 2010 and up and the 2018 fusion sport run the 1/4 in the mid to high 13s. So the only thing your beating is base V6 Taurus and 4 cylinder fusions which I wouldn’t brag about cuz there slow as fuck

[@backinblack_z0615]

Dblock real wow what a super long statement now who’s butt hurt keep it short. You obviously don’t pay attention to my name so let me give you a hint 16 coyote stands for 16 mustang gt. It’s a full bolt on so I’ll drag that week as old as fuck Lexus. Now I am done go fuck your self 😂

[@boxcarent.3147]

Dblock real agree I love used lexus sedans but you are not spanking any SHOs.

[@boxcarent.3147]

Roman Soroka I love used lexus sedans great value.

[@boxcarent.3147]

16 Coyote you are 100 fucken % correct. These clowns are just a bunch of ricers.

[@4567chuck]

I need another sedan to buy! For a v8 and very power dodge is the only car under 50k. Let's go Ford and Chevy!

[@1Galan2incredible]

Ford is F' ing up by leaving the Focus, and removing the Fusion! IMO, the Fusion is the best car Ford currently produces!

[@chriszbodula1894]

For YEARS I have seen some pretty cool fords abroad and always wondered why they didn’t have these models/designs in the US. Pretty stupid people running major companies.

[@modlist6129]

“Kangaroo balls “ 😂😂😂

[@mugabebakulu5817]

Because of Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Kia, Hundai, Subaru, however, Ford trucks is on top of their game.

[@Sigrafix]

I liked the G8 and the Chevy SS.. or at least, I liked the idea of them.. especially the SS, V8 manual big body 4 door.. it's a shame that it was so expensive and so plain looking.. Imagine a base model 5.0 Falcon manual for around 33k.. Lol.. I'm in.

[@Stainlessslayer]

Sigrafix agreed. I love my g8, and I'm considering adding an SS to the fleet if I can find the right one. A falcon would've been amazing.

[@dmcnamara9859]

Sigrafix: Ford,GM-Holden,Toyota received.....like $23,000+ Australian dollars (from the Australian Government) for every car they assembled in the last few years. At least the Australians,took the Falcon and made it into a Mustang in the early 2000s...before everything came crashing down for: Ford,Holden, and Toyota. Australia is not a cost-effective place to manufacture cars.....and with the foreign competition offering so much better products....and end-Retail consumers getting a better deal...it's no wonder Australia's car manufacturing imploded. Ford sedan offerings in the North American car market are/were a joke. A $15,000+ econo shit box offering from Hyundai-Kia is still a better car. The Big 3 are in the last phases of annihilation...overpriced light trucks and Crossovers won't save them. If and when the Japanese and Koreans decided to once and for all decide to take control of the light-truck market....GM,Ford, and Fiat Chrysler are done......it's only a matter of time before that happens. Let's not forget,Toyota and Honda are poised to sell 800,000+ units of the Rav4 and CRV this 2108 calendar fiscal year....a number Ford,GM, and Fiat-Chrysler can only get in delusional dreams. Don't forget,Peugeot (2 years ago) took controlling Interest of GM Europe and have recently given GM a time-line of 4-6 years before they will no longer be able to use the Platforms and Engineering Resources. Peugeot has already fired the Americans,Germans, and UK upper management Responsible for Opel's predicament. GM recently has been trying to find buyers of GM-Korea (formerly called Daewoo);it's last resource of small-car Platforms which have been sold around the Globe as Buicks,Chevys,Opels,Vauxhalls,etc.. GM is basically dead now for Sedan Platforms (which can be turned into profitable crossovers). GM America does not have the insight or creativity to get itself out of the hole it has dug for decades. Another bailout from Uncle Sam won't save it form the cancer-like bad Management.

[@rodferguson3515]

Wrong !! The price of the Holden Commodore based Chevy SS Sedan and the Pontiac G8 are quite reasonable $40.000- 45.000 range the problem with those cars were option choices SUN / Moonroof options color choices for interior seats carpeting exterior colors etc ... Remember that all of these cars ( Chevy SS also were all manufacturered and import Ed by Holden in Australia so you couldn't get a wide range or variety of options for those cars for American markets . As far as the car 's exterior look in my opinion the cars were nice looking and yes the styling was a bit subdued and conservative but still easy on the eyes In other words " a sleeper" but that's cool because it's a car that doesn't draw a lot of attention ( Especially with the Cops or insurance) So what you're getting is a car that half the price of a Cadillac CTS V series or a Mercedes, Lexus, Infinite, Audi etc.. with a CORVETTE 6.2 Liter v8 auto or sex speed stick etc .. So performance bargain fans rejoice get these cars new or used while you still can ...

[@dmcnamara9859]

Rod Ferguson: The Commodore variants sold in the USA were/are garbage.....UAW like build quality and reliability from Down Under. Even when the "GTO" SS/G8,(GM lost money on every Fleet Police Cruiser) were sold here for a limited time.... most GM dealerships scared Potential consumers away with $10,000+ dealer markups. For a cheap Pleb car (with 1980s Opel Omega Platform origins)....scared most smart consumers to other outlets. Same crappy platform as the 2010> Camaro,CTS

[@rodferguson3515]

D McNamara Your are correct about reliably issues with Holden Commodores and their various sub models ,Holden Monaro ( Pontiac GTO ) was a cheap stop gap bandaid attempt to introduce a new model for Pontiac since the Firebird was killed in 2002 . Yes you are correct , the Monaro was a Aussie 2 door version of the Opel sigma " full sized " Sedan using GM 's Old "Zeta" platform .This car was also as you may know the bases for The Holden Commodore Sedan , Chevy Camaro (2010) , Cadillac CTS sedan / coupe/ wagon and Pontiac G8 Chevy SS . Yes these cars ( The models build in Australia) were not up to snuff quality wise due to poor engine and transmission standard that were not check for North American standards including CAFE standards which also drove prices up due to currency fluctuations with both the Aussie dollar and the U.S dollar . Agreed that the Zeta platform was an old platform that was about to be replaced by Alpha in 2007 which made The old Commodore and it's variances replaceable . Yeah I get that these cars were less than stellar but so were a lot of cars made 15 years ago..

[@coyotekelly7143]

man you crack me up!! this was great and on point.

[@r6master69]

Ford stopped making cars because huge profits in trucks period

[@r6master69]

Brian Ross just wait till gas goes sky high under trump. And it will and watch ford make cars again.

[@f.w.1318]

Ford kept selling trucks during the gas crisis of 08, the fuel cost summer average was between 4.50 and 4.75, In 2013 gas prices averaging around 3.75, ford also had high truck sales then, I dont see gas going over 3.00 a gallon this summer, with the uptrend in the economy the consumer wont give blink when they pay it.

[@r6master69]

Fern W gas is 2.99 right now dude. At least here in Michigan.

[@f.w.1318]

Hello Brandon, AAA and other entities rate gas averages according to US regions. I think there are 5 regions 6 if you include Hawaii and Alaska which totally skews the numbers, Gas in the southern Gulf Sates Texas to Florida including Arkansas and Oklahoma is averaging 2.55 to 2.59. I just paid 2.59 there are some gas stations in South Texas that's selling for 2.39, However don't see myself driving 3 hours to save twenty cents. West coast, and the North East will probably be highest cost due to the insane fuel taxes, especially California. In 09 when the average hit 4.50- 75 some counties were reporting 5 plus for a gallon of fuel and 6 for diesel. The current average for April 2018 was between 2.69 to 2.79, depending on the site you visit.

[@f.w.1318]

Hello JDM, crude oil ended to day at 69.72 per barrel thats about 2.62 once it get to the gas pump, unfortunately your state has some of the most ridiculous tax laws, so they rip you off at the gas pump

[@Wowzers2006]

It sucks how Ford dropped the ball here in the US when they were making it rain 5.4 4V Falcons in Australia. That looked like a pretty badass engine. Long story short, Ford saw the investment it would take to keep their sedans competitive in the US, took a look at the bigger picture and saw the market is dying out pretty quick, and decided it wasn't worth blowing the cash when they need to be spending money on cross-overs, trucks, and SUVs. Hopefully they keep their hands off the Mustang and the Coyote.

[@kazbartv]

mchale20201 unfortunately, the Boss 260, 290 and 315 weren't that great of an engine in the Falcon, and got left behind by its inline 6 turbo sibling (and holden's LS1, 2)It wasn't until ford Australia put the supercharged Coyote into the Falcon that people became interested in the Aussie V8 ford again For less money, you could buy the turbo 6, spend a couple of grand and be pulling a lazy 350kw (469hp). tune, value springs and exhaust. Granted nothing beats the sound of a V8, but the pulling power of the Xr6 turbo, F6 or G6E turbo is addictive.

[@canadianmarauder1923]

I’m an old guy and keeping my 03 Marauder forever. You buy offshore and inevitably that’s where your money ends up.

[@woodyfive0]

Trucks and Mustangs is where ford makes money.... The Lincoln will be Fords sedan market

[@Iwish4zombies]

woodyfive0 best comment yet.

[@sopwithsnoopy8779]

I see Fusions and Focuses all over the place where I live. In my personal opinion I think the newer Fusion is one of the best-looking 4 dr. sedans out there. I drove a base-engine (the one without a turbo) rental back in 2012 and it was a very nice car. Very quiet inside, absorbed bumps & potholes nicely, it just needed to get a bit better mpg, imo.

[@NeverLetOff]

Preach on. If they would have put a coyote in a RWD Fusion, I'd own 3.

[@fastmonaro05]

That was our Ford Falcon

[@bshaw1979]

Sorry Alex your incorrect about the GM car sales. Cts , impala, and Malibu’s aren’t selling either.

[@boxcarent.3147]

brando s that's correct. They couldn't even sell the Holden gto several years ago and the impala ss was a failure. Also he mentioned the Chevy Cruze I think you mean the Chevy Malibu the last several years is good car but suffering in sales also.

[@bshaw1979]

Boxcar Ent. Yeah I work for GM building the trucks. Lots of laid off guy coming to the truck plant from the car plants.

[@sirjager9172]

YOLO Ford has stopped making the falcon's too 😢😢

[@leego179]

There Fusion Sport is the most powerful and only AWD with twin turbo V6 sedan in it's class. The main reason it's not selling now is that it's base price of $34k is about the same price as an Charger RT, along with being released too late in it's production cycle with essentially no marketing to intro it as a new model.

[@Reapersrevenge9]

Actually Ford has the Lincoln MKZ that’s a twin turbo awd with 400hp. Sure it costs more than a pos used Kia or Hyundai but it’s luxury not economy.

[@marcellowheeler88]

Brett SanFratello it's basically a sho with a few luxury items.

[@Reapersrevenge9]

Marcello Wheeler actually it’s not. The 3.0L twin turbo direct injection motor is a Lincoln only product. It has not been put in any Ford models. I have one and while the awd may be a bit testy in 90 degree turns at full throttle overall it is probably the best sedan Ford has ever produced. Not far behind it is the new Continental. But you gotta pay to play unless you want a turd cutter like a Kia or Hyundai.

[@Michael_Obando]

And the mkz looks gay. Who gives a fuck about all wheel drive? We want hot rod modern cars. Like the AMG’s. They have awd but can be turned off for glorious burnouts and the engine is still longitudly mounted. Not transverse.

[@Reapersrevenge9]

Mike 4545 just because you can’t afford one doesn’t make it gay.

[@Michael_Obando]

Brett SanFratello trust me I don’t want to “afford” one. Driving one as a used car at dealership was enough.

[@Martinchvr]

I know it's no falcon but you should check out the 2018 Fusion Sport with 325hp 380tq awd, you also got the Lincoln MKZ 3.0T AWD with 400hp 400TQ which are pretty solid.

[@longhaulking6031]

More money and time invested towards the Mustang so I'm not complaining lol

[@Str8sixfan]

Blows my mind why they haven't brought over the turbo OHC i-6. Rented a falcon when in I visited Aussie in 2012, it was such an awesome car.

[@MaliciousSRT]

The hybrid and electric stuff is also taking a back seat, they use to pour billions into development for those but that is also stopping. People want Ford Escapes, Explorers, Mustangs and F150's and that's where the money is. FCA dropped the 200 and Dart for the same reason. Why build a boring sedan that people only buy if there's $10,000 on the hood when you could use that production capacity to build Jeeps and Rams that people actually want. Same thing.

[@Sir......]

.... i heard they are going to have hybrid suv's and trucks in the near future...

[@napoleoneinstein2487]

That Crown Vic Police Interceptor you dog down is rock solid and dependable. It accelerates and handles perfectly adequately. Comfortable and spacious. Will do an honest 129 mph. Talk to any cop about the CVPI and they will unanimously lament it's passing. Mine is a retired fire chief's car. Never beat on, very few idle hours and low miles. If you can find a nice one buy it. I got mine for $2400.

[@Maserati7200]

Napoleon Einstein the crown vic is definitely a reliable and durable car than can take daily beatings and not even flinch, all while riding great. But it’s way too slow. It’s V8 was outdated even in 2003 when it was last revised. (or was it 1998?). Even the Marauder with the supercharger only make about 300 HP, underwhelming for a 4.6 V8 thats naturally aspirated. They should’ve given the engine more grunt. At least it sounded nice. Also the 4 speed auto made it worse.

[@OkieSavage91]

I would love a falcon brought over here, but EPA 👌🏼🤛🏼

[@philreynolds7216]

Amen, brother. I AM that 52 year old man with my pullover collared shirt tucked into my Docker shorts (sorry, no Larry Bird socks) that would buy that car to drive on our 75 mph roads in Texas. Because even at 75mph, sometimes you need to pass that slow sumbitch in front of you, and you want to pass with authority.

[@JerZeyFiveOh]

The V8 sedan markets are winning over here. I do not like the "progressive movement" that Ford is trying to make happen.

[@JerZeyFiveOh]

Sounds about right.

[@takanara7]

Navy Phyrfitr you're delusional. We use more oil than we discover every year.

[@JPIndustrie]

lol get real... all copouts ... your post and these poor excuses for replies... Face it, in order to be in Ford's 'demographics' its implied you can AFFORD the cars. Those that actually do have the buying power, enabled to buy, sign on the dotted line... they're either rich boomers with a taste for crossovers or young urban professionals who'd rather drink and uber home than deal with DUIs. Take your pick.

[@tnbspotter5360]

Ford gives more to queer groups than most other auto maker. They've got a real turd running that place.

[@erenkaslte8046]

+JP yeap what sells stays what doesn't gets chopped.

[@tacosalsa5748]

Alex I have a question. A little off topic but I'm scratching my head over here. I have been hearing rumors of the new 2018 5.0 mustang having problems with bearing caps etc. Making a ticking noise like a fire pit. I just bought a 2018, and i heard it sometimes

[@ashleyg8373]

Larry Bird socks LOL

[@silverbullet539]

Is there a chance you can import a falcon in and have it registered? I'll start saving for one now that I'm on a lease

[@mikeschmidt8429]

Fords quality has gone down hill big time,the dps6 trans in the focus ruined that car,the fusion is a good looking car quiet and comfortable to drive,but so many recalls,

[@PimoAn01]

Mike Schmidt fucking hate my auto Focus, can’t believe they released that crap

[@stevewill1940]

even worse cant believe you bought a car you hate.....

[@boxcarent.3147]

Mike Schmidt all cars have recalls you ricer. Go check out and service depart.e t at any dealer it's filled with cars with problems and broken shit.

[@PimoAn01]

I cant believe it either, salesman did his job lol

[@garybrinker4522]

My 62 Fairlane never recalled.

[@RegeniasMinkOil]

My Ford Expedition 2000 is still running well

[@BubbaBlueTube]

Good points 👍🏻

[@OuzoLouGarage]

Bubba Blue I know you

[@BubbaBlueTube]

ouzo lou from KZbin? Lol

[@lescobrandon3047]

Most of my time working the streets in my career, our patrol cars were Crown Vics and were great. Police in the NY area preferred rear wheel drive V8s so it fit well. Plus the only police packages were provided with the Crown Vic.

[@bml33]

Your argument is flawed. Sedans are not selling well. They had to shut down the Chevy Cruze plant because inventory is growing and not moving as fast as they'd like. Then you said you can't buy an American sedan with 400hp like the Genesis. Well, you are comparing a 6 year old Genesis. Today you can buy a Lincoln sedan with a 400hp twin turbo V6 for $35k which is cheaper than a Genesis. The '18 Genesis G80 is $41k and has 311hp. The luxury sedan market may be the only one that is doing well. Families are going to crossovers and trucks. The reasons we do not have cars like the Aussies do is partly our fuel economy/emissions regs but also American family buyers don't want hot rod sedans. In the U.S., sales of all kinds of sedans are tanking. Big time.

[@fordtruckman2001]

Correct even Camry and Accord

[@bml33]

As an example, Camry is the leader of the declining segment. Here are some figures from carsalesbase.com in april: April 2014: 38009 April 2015: 34066 April 2016: 34039 April 2017: 31428 April 2018: 29848 See where that trend is headed? Meanwhile....Hyundai Tucson SUV in 2014 sold 47,000 units in North America and in 2017 sold 114,000 units.

[@fordtruckman2001]

I agree

[@halberto9o8]

Bruce Leibowitz This is the story in a nutshell. It's currently a declining segment and the weaker players cannot sell enough units to justify investment in next generstion/redesigned sedans. It will be interesting though to see what happens if and when fuel prices at the pump keep rising and hit the shitfan. Where will our manufacturers that only have trucks and SUVs to offer be then? Maybe gone (or more bailout)? Americans tend to think in the short term, most foreigners plan for the long haul, whether it's automobiles or world politics.

[@nephetula]

It's a great car, but you're talking apples and oranges. Genesis is a luxury brand, while Ford never was. The price on a new Genesis can easily hit 60-70 grand, and you can't find any Ford sedan that ever sold for that much. Compare the Cadenza with the Taurus for a fairer comparison. The real reason Ford's dropping sedans is that then can make twice as much money selling big ass trucks and SUV's to insecure, big ass people who rarely haul anything.

[@guillermopacheco5005]

I would take an SHO over that Genesis , but’s that’s me... a Ford guy lol

[@mauricecooper176]

Guillermo Pacheco And I take a kia stinger over a SHO From a ford guy

[@guillermopacheco5005]

Maurice Cooper the Kia Stinger is a great car also

[@MrVroom15]

Guillermo Pacheco you must be 50😂😂😂😂

[@guillermopacheco5005]

MrVroom15 you must be gay

[@paulsachs9983]

Guillermo Pacheco Yup, you 50. Lmao

[@stevenmaginnis1965]

I liked the Focus and the Fiesta, and the Focus is all new for 2019 in Europe. Too bad we can't have it! >:-(

[@tomkjr1]

You tell 'em good Yolo! Great to have you back bro.

[@erebus38]

And here many of us always thought that it was Japan that used to screw us out of all the good stuff,but to be honest,the American manufacturers have always been far worse with knowing anything about what the American people would like and want. While most of these vehicles no longer carry the names like El Camino or Ranchero, Holden or what we would know as GM in Australia still makes modern muscle V8 models of these car/truck hybrids down under! I know of many slightly older people who would constantly talk about how they missed owning those kinds of vehicles based upon just how different and cool they were. One reason why we always get screwed out of all the cool stuff from our domestic auto manufacturers based on my perspective is that they've always just preferred to be cheap and save money by merely selling us all their crappier car models that the rest of the world doesn't care for.

[@patmcgregor9322]

Well said,the car/truck hyrbrids you mentioned are called utility vehicles or utes for short as they're most commonly known.With vehicle production closed here in Australia I'll be keeping my car/truck hybrids (1 Holden 6.0 v8 & Ford 4.0 I6 turbo respectivley) for years to come..unless I ever find a 454 SS El camino one day lol

[@erebus38]

I'm assuming that this Ford you're talking about is also running the Barra engine? If so,I must say that I envy your vehicle options "down under"! I'd drive one of those so called "utes" regardless of whether it was packing a bad ass LS V8 variant or a Barra engine because I bet you could certainly haul some serious ass in those things! Of course,I'd have to wonder as to whether or not they come with a good ol' fashioned manual transmission or not,but in the case of some of these vehicles,I'd probably be willing to make an exception in this case.

[@b20nice1]

What about the sho?

[@PrinzII]

Your assessment of the SHO is spot on. I test drove one and, quite frankly, found it lacking in so many areas. My wife liked it.

[@Kenneth1350]

We need the barra engine here in the states and this is coming from a honda guy.

[@ianfraser2153]

A mate of mine has a turbo barra in a utility, extensive mods to the motor and it produces 1085 hp all day..

[@fastmonaro05]

Ford has shut down its BARRA straight six plant along with Falcon cars here in Oz

[@OneManOnFire]

As a GM car salesman in northern California I can see what all the local GM dealerships are selling. Malibu down, Chevy Cruze down, Impala down, and Sonic down. I won't go talk about the other GM brands! The sedan market for us is a hard sell for us. My friend sold Toyota at one of the largest dealers and they still couldn't sell the Avalon compared to the Camery

[@Fordgroup00]

They shut down to gear up to build for military demands

[@thehawk5141]

Ogre Dad. Some one who read between the lines.

[@Fordgroup00]

The Hawk thanks 👍

[@B0SS330]

We've had the Falcon's since 1967 but they sadly went out of production in 2015... not enough sales. The 1971 Falcon GT HO with the Cleveland 351 is worth over $200,000 over here in Aussie land. The 5.4L V8 (DOHC) became available in 2003 with 350hp in the XR8 and ended in 2008 with 422hp (higher compression) in the FPV (Ford Performance Vehicles) GT's The Miami motor (Coyote running an 8psi factory blower) came out in the GT in 2010.. they make over 500hp stock. The FPV F6 has a turbocharged straight 6 Barra (4.0L) with around 450hp from the factory.

[@MustangNthusiest]

Back to good Ole Florida. Meanwhile, here I am still in Buffalo, NY... :(

[@Davido50]

MustangNthusiest. ..Buffalo NY rocks!!

[@MustangNthusiest]

David Klimmek no. LoL

[@russellseilhamer4552]

MustangNthusiest -- I live in Altoona PA but lived in West Palm Beach FL for 25 years....... Too hot in Florida. I love PA but I want to go to Buffalo and see that city😃

[@MustangNthusiest]

Russell Seilhamer, that's good to know about being to hot. I need a happy medium. Hmm

[@ChiefTuna]

#billsmafia

[@BulletSpoung]

I was at a gun show and was told by a vender that Homeland Security had told everyone selling cars in the US back in 2010 to reduce or eliminate all vehicles that have a locking trunk by 2020. Any cars being sold after 2020 need to have a way to open the cars trunk from outside the car without a key fob.

[@boxcarent.3147]

SHO and fusion sport are awesome cars better than that Hyundai you drive.

[@RadDadisRad]

Boxcar Ent. Sho and Fusion sport are alright. I’d never say they were awesome.

[@TrainerDee]

Boxcar Ent. Sho maybe, fusion na

[@YDBT4LIFE]

Drive a genesis R-spec 5.0, then talk to me

[@f.w.1318]

The Fusion was built to compete with Honda Accord and Toyota Camry, The Toyota will out beat it any day of the week, the Ford dealership where I live doesn't even it have one in the lot.

[@tatankahaska]

Fern W same here I live in small town in Montana it’s either F series trucks and one use GT-CS coyote Mustang in their lot lol

[@NigelsModellingBench]

Great video thanks, but didnt Ford say a few weeks ago that the 2020 Mustang was dropped?

[@fordltd1983]

When Dodge came out with the new Charger with Hemi V8... what idiot at Ford said that will never go over, we need fuel economy and small engines with turbos. Wake up FORD!!! Just drop a 4 door sedan with a coyote...problem solved.

[@RSDX99]

The only problem with buying a Charger, It's a FRIGGIN DODGE!

[@fordltd1983]

Oh. I agree. Just saying Ford should have made a similar vehicle...Look how many Dodge Sold.

[@86twin]

If you drop a V-8 in the engine bay, people will buy it.

[@static7540]

This is why my wife drives a Daytona Edition Charger. Wanted the power but needed 4 doors. Getting out of my Mustang to travel as a family isn't so bad when the car performs as well as it does. Ford has dropped the ball multiple times with their sedans. I had huge hopes in the early 2000s when they first mentioned the 500. I hoped it would be a 4 door nod to the late 60s Galaxie 500 kind of like Dodge did with the Charger. (Yes, I know most people had a fit when the Charger first came out. I was one of them.)

[@kenrobinson1099]

GM and Ford got nothing on Dodge or Ram.

[@rockbay79]

My Mother-in-Law bought a brand new Fusion about 5 years ago. She had several problems with the car from the start. She is retired and does not drive high mileage. After the last repair, she traded it in on a new Chevrolet car. So far she likes it much better. During my 57 years on this Earth, I have owned a few Ford vehicles, Rangers, Mustangs mostly. My wife liked Mustangs. However, they were sort of money pits. Always needing repairs or something. Want a trouble-free vehicle? Go with anything Toyota.

[@SSecondo1]

People are more into buying the cheapest car with more gadgets in it for the money (Hyundai, Kia, Toyota, nissan) rather than a quality vehicle that costs a little more (Ford).

[@RM80AR]

SSecondo1 quality? I m a ford guy too but ford builds worst sedans ever. My 2011 Fusion brand new transmission broke at 6300 miles.

[@SSecondo1]

No-one told you not to do neutral-drops? Cops and taxis use Ford's and my 1997 TBird is still a daily driver. See any old imports still on the road that old bro?

[@boxcarent.3147]

Offroadtaco you are talking g shit go to dealer especially pricey imports they are all getting service for problems and broken shit before time.

[@queefmicester1189]

I'm a Ford fan, but the Ford cars are not the best quality, but their trucks are very reliable and dependable as fuck. And strong too.

[@garybrinker4522]

Ford Ranger should be coming back ..Mine has close to 300k mi. With original transmission.

[@AllAverageAdventures]

The older falcons were 5.4 but the newer falcon sedans and Utes are actually supercharged 5.0 coyote engines (engine designation in Australia is “Miami” ) and they come with either a tr6060 manual or ZF 6 speed auto.. and the Barra engine is the Australian big block 2JZ..

[@DanielThomason1]

GM in the same boat as Ford, with selling their junk.

[@Zekenificent]

Especially the Utes

[@ianfraser2153]

GM in aus stopped production in 2017, now they put their badge on anything they can import..

[@jasonlisonbee]

I actually suspect some political crap ripped them apart from the inside, to make the working class Americans weaker as a group. Which is also why some rich people invest in foreign companies and then find a way to move successful American company's assets over to them. It's a war strategy via economic manipulation.

[@jasonlisonbee]

At the same time they use pride and shame to build up some people and tear down others to motivate and demotivate different groups of people to generate the economic flows that benefit them, ultimately hurt everyone else.

[@nordic5490]

As a FG Barra turbo Falcon owner here in Oz, I had a chuckle. The Barra turbo is dead easy to modify and up the power and the stock FG turbo block and head can make 900hp with just valve springs. Going all out, the 4L i6 Barra factory block and head can make 2000hp+. Just how much power can you use on the street ? It's a shame you Mericans dont don't have the Barra and have to use v8s instead. Btw, the FG turbo (has barra) handles a lot better the v8 Coyote FG Falcon, as has a lighter front end. The Barra engine is only 5kg heavier than a Nissan RB26 engine @ 8:20 this owner explains that kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKWkkJWtaMuWh6s Ozzies love performance sedans. Gotto love a car that can be a daily driver, take the kids to school, and run 8s kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHW2qJWor5eYpa8

[@boxcarent.3147]

That was your worst video ever. To say you were Incoherent and ignorant about the topic is an understatement.

[@PlaymakerPat]

Probably his best video. You're part of the problem

[@abnersalguero12]

I think is a good video “ change my mind”

[@dblockreal]

Boxcar Ent. LOL this video was on point all the way through open up tour 👀 buddy

[@LS1OfAKind32]

Lmao, I've driven a Taurus SHO , Kia Optima Turbo, a BMW 335i and a Subaru WRX Guess wich one ended up in the bottom of my list? The freaking Taurus. Such a bad car for the amount of cash you pay. The interior sucks Torque Steer kill all the fun. Hell the fucking Optima didn't even had Torque steer as bad as that Taurus. They're quick off the line and in a straight, sure, but they're terrible anywhere else I was able to cross-shop MID SIZE SEDANS with Ford's FULL SIZE and have the full size get to the bottom of the things I'd recommend buying.

[@boxcarent.3147]

LS1OfaKind you are a ricer at heart that's why. Admit it you are an anti american.

[@Se7enDSe7en]

From what I understand, the US government is mandating a high mpg requirement, like 45mpg average among a manufacturers list of vehicles, starting in a few years that is going to require that most cars be hybrid or even electric to make up for all of the trucks that will have lower mpg.

[@toddadams5010]

I'm a chevy guy but I totally respect and agree with your v8 point of veiw

[@SkysurvCoNz]

The supercharged V8 was a 5.0 coyote, over 400kw in GT form. I purchased a 6spd manual FPV F6 falcon turbo new, seriously fun.

[@don-cw1yz]

Basically, Ford and GM & Chrysler can't make a Honda Civic or Accord or a Toyota Corolla or Camry. They can't compete with the quality-reliability and design of those companies. Then on the luxury end consumers have found that Lexus is just better than anything made by Cadilac. I thought Ford was finally getting serious about the luxury Lincoln division with products like the Lincoln MKZ. Yet for too long Ford let its luxury line Lincoln deteriorate. For too long the whole Lincoln lineup even looked old to a 65-year-old. Plus consumers look at companies that stand behind their products. Toyota and Honda do. Plus ask any DIY guy that works on his own vehicles, or a mechanic that works on cars for a living, Toyota's and Honda's, for the most part, are well made and easy to work on. Mazda is a company that is consistently improving on its vehicles and has reasonably priced vehicles.

[@NeverLetOff]

Larry Bird socks, I fucking lost it

[@stevencoyote746]

Alex so did your strip your gears or your Axels if so I was wondering if you had stock Axels or if you are going to the 9in rear end...you got me alittle scared now lol..hellion twin 6466s 1500hp Axels one piece aluminum driveshaft stock rear end..idk

[@kelvino2370]

Cool video. Before you get all sad about the cars we have here in Oz - Ford and General motors have stopped manufacturing here - we now get imports too. Apparently we still build the Aussie V8 - but that is made for your cars - its a strange world!

[@Zyworski]

How is the Kelly Blue Book on that Genesis treating you?

[@YDBT4LIFE]

About the same as a mustang GT with similar mileage.

[@lancpudn]

Those Hyundai Genesis are a very nice motor indeed I would love one but with gas over $8.00 a gallon here in the UK, hybrids are much easier on the wallet.

[@russellseilhamer4552]

I have a 2011 Hyundai Elantra with 46k miles on it. I love it. Very nice car

[@matthewskaggs3792]

I am a die hard Ford guy to and agree 100%. The reason I want a CTS-V or a TBSS is because Ford has nothing like it.

[@andresparrow2971]

I heard that they were giving up on sedans because of the EPA is lowering engine efficient standards, which also makes sense on why everybody is making suvs lately and bigger ones like VW and that Atlas. And by the way the little torque steer demonstration @4:29...I watched that like 3 times...sounded like a cartoon!!! It had me rolling!

[@tyreemcgrone10]

I kind of agree with what you’re saying, but how do you explain Chevy not selling the SS? Last time I checked, they have a shit ton of inventory left over and are marking them down like crazy

[@kazbartv]

I love my 4.0 I6 turbo charged Falcon 😍 it's a shame the US never got to experience the Barra Turbo...

[@Jareddrago]

According to an engineer at ford, the real reason they are discontinuing sedans is the fact all of their car plants need retooling. Retooling that many plants at the same time would cost a lot of money.

[@MrSKlim]

Guess it was just me, but I really liked the Taurus SHO lol. Quick with a tune and a splash of E85, interior was nicely loaded up and used they were extremely affordable. I've never driven the R-Spec, but I can imagine it's nice, great looking that's for sure!

[@diondavis6547]

was it the Falcon or the Holden that was used for the pontiac G8?

[@Danu01c]

Alex. You should drive a ISF. It's got a 5.0 like mustangs and has technology the new mustangs have like the multi injection (port and direct). It's rwd, sporty, ok size sedan and the F community cpudld really use a guy like you to develop tuning and parts. If you manage to make intake manifold and other bolt ons for them that don't even exist. You could be a developer of a car that has lots of potential.

[@cogicmj]

Mopar or No Car you failed to mention Bruh. LOL!!! I love what Chrysler and Dodge is doing with the 4 door sedan market and the powerful HEMI in America.

[@northwesthorsepower8215]

I like how he does this all in one take. I can watch this guy talk to the camera all day lol

[@DarkWater1123]

I'm also a big Ford guy, I personally drive an F150, and I completely agree with this video!

[@LS1OfAKind32]

Also, I don't blame you on your Opinion about the Taurus. I cross-shopped it with a BMW 335i, Kia Optima Turbo and a Subaru WRX and it ended up at the bottom of the barrel. If I'm able to cross-shop mid size sedans with a full size one, it should talk by itself of how bad I thought it was. The Optima being FWD had less Torque Steer The Subaru AWD was far superior The BMW Interior killed it miles ahead The Taurus only point was being somewhat fast off the line, if the torque steer didn't want to fuck you over.

[@Mr_Joseph979]

I was in a genesis about 2 years ago before they got their own badge. I was going to get it on the spot. When my wife asked what I would do with my Ford Flex, I said "you can drive it!". Plus with a 10 year 100,000 Mile warranty...pa-lease!

[@lionelnelson322]

First of all dude this is the funniest and realest comments about this Ford debacle I’ve seen it’s very true what you said and I laughed all the way thru I definitely am subscribing to your channel

[@ThemReaper5]

Asked before on an older vid but no response so I'll ask again, what's your experience with the gdiv8 engine in your genesis, I hear they have a few bad issues after 100k miles like bad build up and some piston issues... Was considering getting a used one with 80k miles for $10k but saw some horrible reviews

[@Abitibidoug]

As some other commenters here have said, Ford is making fewer sedans and concentrating on trucks and SUVs because 1) there's more market demand for them and 2) the profit per unit is more so it makes good sense as a business decision, at least now. So, what could possibly go wrong? If you've been paying attention you've noticed the price of crude oil is inching up, bit by bit and so is the price of petrol. If crude goes way up again like it did in 2008, the demand for those trucks and SUVs will dry up and smaller fuel efficient cars will be in demand again. Everything goes full circle, it's happened in the past and could happen again. What's the upside? If you really want a truck, they'll be relatively cheap when fuel prices spike again.

[@felipelora0505]

100 % agreed , those sedans would keep there value as well

[@leego179]

If Ford continued development of engine improvements, suspension upgrades, and more dramatic styling the Taurus SHO would be a competent competitor in the sedan market today. The SHO started the market trend of manufacturers building and buyers selecting a twin turbo v6 over a n/a V8. When it was introduced, it was quicker than a V8 RT Charger and supercharged Audi S6 V6's.

[@giofromtexas2679]

Just out of curiosity, is your Genesis the R-Spec? 😁

[@Sonny13_]

LOL 6:50 Yeah, I agree with Alejandro on this issue. Why do the American Car Companies sell cool cars in Australia/Europe while we get sedated bloated Crossovers and SUVS and crappy sedans? This is the Mystery of the Century. Ford needs to make a new Lincoln Continental or something because the Japanese/ German Car Makers are winning.

[@clevelandgreg1027]

i got a v8 lexus RC, what u think. got it used only 15k miles 43k

[@rokuplayz464]

I'm not all the way thru the video but are they getting rid of the fiesta?

[@randymatthews3889]

Alex are you with Lund Racing now? Asked for you at vmp and said you were no longer with them! What's up homie I need a tune where you at?

[@patrickkennedy2533]

your exactly right money , Ford Lincoln have been sleeping for the last 20 years and i am a Ford OG

[@jaydee5156]

I haven't been a Ford guy in years, but I understand Ford's market focus. I haven't owned a car in nearly 25 years. When I rent, I get anything but a car.