The REAL Reason Lamborghini HATES Pagani

Horacio Pagani will go down in history as one of the most influential automobile engineers and designers to ever live. He believed in using exotic materials like carbon fiber, even when his (then) employee Lamborghini, didn't. He believes in superior design, craftsmanship, and quality over all else. This, is a celebration of Pagani.
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[@IdealMediaChannel]

*Pagani... what an incredible story! Is THIS your favorite supercar maker... or what is it?* Subscribe for more! bit.ly/IdealCarsKZbin

[@sepg5084]

Nah. Maybe if we start seeing Paganis at Texas 2K and other drag racing events beating twin turbo Huracans, or beating Huracans at GT3 races. But as of now, Pagani is nothing more than a Cars and Coffee instagram car. It has zero motorsport cred.

[@Mr_X010]

Bugatti is alive

[@MrNufzed]

@@sepg5084 mike drop!

[@ethanb.2241]

Lmborghini

[@ctr289]

Huayra is plain ugly. The Zonda was nice, but Huayra looks like a 2nd tier concept car. The newest one looks ok, too.

[@stefanwolf8558]

I find it funny how Pagani started his own race car company because Lamborghini didn't take him seriously. Which is the exact same thing that happened when Enzo Ferrari dismissed Ferruccio Lamborghini so Ferruccio decided to start his own race car company.

[@TheMponde]

Yeah. I don't think Horatio takes me seriously either... wait for it...

[@flapflapflapflap]

@@TheMponde you aren't taking me seriously either, just you see, just you see...

[@kleptomaniagta5362]

Exactly ! I was just about to write that lamborghini got lamborghinied 😂

[@Krishnaprasad-tc6vk]

Well even if ferruccio wanted to listen to him they didn't have any money. Lamborghini was on the verge of shutting down. Their hope was on the military orders but the plan backfired and that was it.

[@earthdragon88backyard]

i now understand how big players inspiring the new ones! 🤣

[@falcongamer58]

Pagani brought medieval styling to the modern era with the Huayra

[@just_some_bigfoot_hacking_you]

Well, that's poetic. Pagani tried to get a job at Lamborghini, he was rejected. So he turned into manufacturing carbon fiber for racing teams until he became so successful, built his own company, and the rest is history.

[@maddog7771]

Irony being Lamborghinis founder was scoffed at by Ferrari when he tried to make some engineering suggestions.

[@Bigchuckers]

If you look into it Horaccio was the design lead on the 25th anniversary Countach. So how wasn't he once a Lambo employee?

[@luissoto1491]

@@Bigchuckers Yes he was indeed employed by Lamborghinni, the thing is his idea was rejected by the company. He didn´t give up though and turned to a Mercedes ejecutive friend with his new pagani car idea and his buddy was more than happy to help him out with the project, even called his design timeless. I only wonder how cool it would've been if someone behind the Chrysler Eng. team had the marbles to bring life to their work when Mercedes shut down the ME-FOUR-TWELVE concept..... I love that car just as much as the Zonda....

[@rahulsudhir666]

​@@thinsmcstash5352 Absolutely! So many inaccuracies! Horacio himself has told the story multiple times already. He has no resentment towards Lamborghini. In fact he holds his time with Lamborghini very dear to his heart. The only correct part was that Lamborghini had indeed declined his request to purchase an autoclave. This was at a time when Lamborghini sales figures were not great and they felt there was no immediate need for it since their arch nemesis Ferrari didn't have one either. Also, Horacio was not a janitor at that particular point as mentioned in this video! He was already part of their design team. That was when he bought an autoclave on a personal loan and started producing carbon kevlar parts for Dallara, some race teams and even Lamborghini. Whoever put this video together could've just watched Horacio's video on Pagani's channel and walked out with so much more info.

[@blairbrown4812]

It's almost certain that if Ferruccio Lamborghini had been in contact with Pagani,it is almost certain he would have taken the young engineer seriously and would have taken him under his wing. We can only hope that Horacio will not follow in Lamborghini's footsteps.

[@faygox955]

5:04. Seeing young Horacio's enthusiasm for car design, a racing driver made 3 letters of recommendation to hire Horacio, one for Mercedes Benz, one for Ferrari and one for Lamborghini. Who was the driver who recommended Horacio Pagani? Juan Manuel Fangio. You may know him for being 5 times F1 champion. And he started cleaning up, because he had not been accepted, he simply went from Argentina to Italy and without warning knocked on the door. How proud to have been born in the same land as these two titans.

[@NFSBeast2365]

Wow! 😲😲😲

[@mazdamiata69420]

Pagani is definitely my second favorite hypercar company, but konnegsegg is definitely my favorite hypercar company because Christian Von konnegsegg just reinvented the manual transmission.

[@carkiddunknown4972]

@SVPlaysthat may not happen, the company who controls the environmental impact in the US just lost their control over basically everything, EVS may be eradicated sooner than weve ever anticipated.

[@THESLlCK]

@@carkiddunknown4972 good, EVs suck

[@gho7557]

Yeeees

[@samueldasilva3441]

Yeah, Koenigsegg is better than Pagani in so many ways than this too...

[@defyyourlogic487]

Pagani craftsmanship is on another level compared to a stripped down koenigsegg.

[@greenflame8398]

Fun Fact: Horacio Pagani also dabbles in furniture design. He designed and built the boardroom table and even the bathroom sink counters among other things used at the Pagani headquarters building.

[@TheChzoronzon]

let that sink

[@noiisserpmii]

The Zonda to me is one of the greatest cars ever made. My fav car of over 20yrs. The Huayra is cool but its in such a shadow it can never surpass it. Now with the C10 coming tm i think it can surpass the Huayra but come no where close to what the Zonda has become.

[@_machello_8510]

Same

[@igotnoodlesgold9193]

same alot people like the lfa and i do too but man the zondas sound just as good

[@sepg5084]

Beat Lambo at its own game? Nah. Maybe if we start seeing Paganis at Texas 2K and other drag racing events beating twin turbo Huracans, or beating Huracans at GT3 races. But as of now, Pagani is nothing more than a Cars and Coffee instagram car. It has zero motorsport cred.

[@igotnoodlesgold9193]

@@sepg5084 i mean cuz paganis are hyper cars..

[@joshuaknuckles4594]

Huayra i like mine then zonda

[@dennisdose5697]

Sounds like Horacio has a similar vision to that of Gordon Murray. Lightweight and excellent driver engagement over the pursuit of pure numbers. Glad those two are out there.

[@danielbadescu3064]

Glad I'm not the only one to see that. Both even have a similar number of units produced.

[@creamcake7392]

Then makes cars almost impossible to push to the limit or you get killed like you can lambos etc.. don’t get me wrong I like the cars a lot but driver management ? Think they need to work on that a lot still

[@Random63R400]

@@creamcake7392 You've never been in or behind the wheel of a Pagani to say that

[@LBNMKRS]

Lightweight? 🤣

[@Random63R400]

@@LBNMKRS Compared to most performance cars of same engine power and all yes, they weigh at least 300kg less than a Aventador or 812 Superfast

[@devnotes00]

The Zonda R is probably the best V12 I've ever heard in a vehicle

[@daniele8484]

Living very next to Monza I had the privilege to be at the Pagani 25th anniversary in 2019 (if I remember correctly) and there was a Zonda Revolución in the box that you could look at, and sometimes it just went out the box and did some laps. Oh man it was just an amazing sound and it was really really reaaaally loud! Just being in the paddock behind the box on the main straight you could hear the car doing every straight and every corner around all the track. It was amazing, I never heard a so loud engine sound, I think it was louder than the F1 V10s (I was a kid when I went to watch those so I don't remember exactly).

[@daniele8484]

@Karlo DobX I guess the level of loudness shoul be similar. The Huayra R is awesome 😍

[@UnderCoverToilet]

Pagani Huayra R kill all V12, V10, cars when it comes to V12 Symphony!

[@johnmitchell2269]

599XX Evo sounds better imo.

[@phil_75]

GM T50 beats it

[@TJSATAN]

The Zonda broke my brain when I first saw pictures of it! I didn't even know other cars existed that competed with the posters on my wall for the first 20 years of my life. It was a real moment, a true awakening! And the Huayra is like the Zonda with forced induction just perfection perfected!

[@justsomeguywithamustache3188]

Moral of the story: When a luxury car company talks too much, a new luxury car company is born.

[@kimf.wendel9113]

No, when a company stops devolping and stands still instead of moving towards the future. A new one will come and take over, today thou the established company will just buy the new upcoming one.

[@brentonbush4160]

One of the greatest car related video ever put onto youtube.

[@IdealMediaChannel]

Appreciate your support Brenton! Lets gooo!

[@karolzurek3407]

Bro why did you say Koenigsegg used dual clutch while showing a Koenigsegg without a transmission?

[@nashgraham1384]

Lack of research

[@bicyclist2]

I've been a big fan of Pagani since the first Zonda. I much prefer the Pagani Zonda over the newer Huayra. Thank you.

[@tomasabeciunas8969]

i like it when this guy is cool and chill like this

[@lolickypeepee23xdd6]

dudes humor is ultra forced in most vids

[@pyro7358]

@@lolickypeepee23xdd6 yeah

[@issackaiser]

Now I wonder if Pagani would ever piss off someone else to start their own crazy car company.

[@LuckyCharms777]

Well I’m starting my own hypercar company because I’m pissed off that Pagani’s are unaffordable for me. I’ll show him! 😡

[@mrfunatparties6763]

Just imagine if pagani decided to finally make his own engine it would truly be unique

[@kazikhalid6197]

The AMG v12 pagani uses is kinda the part of their brand though . And they have been using it since their first car . Making a completely new engine would be expensive and would probably take years . And if they rush it , it would be a recipe for disaster.

[@RCmaniac667]

@@kazikhalid6197 expensive yes, but Paganis already cost millions

[@redosorio5278]

Base on the current status of pagani right now, they can make their own engine ‘coz they have a lot of 💰💸💵🤑. The problem is the engineers to make a good reliable performance engine.

[@kazikhalid6197]

@@RCmaniac667 I am not saying that it’s impossible! But building a completely new engine from scratch is kinda unrealistic amd would take years to perfect. Lamborghini is using the same 60 degree v12 platform for years ! They made some really major changes over the years but the platform is still the same . Even Koenigsegg is building their cars on the LS platform. And that AMG v12 is one of the major feature that makes a pagani special.

[@kazikhalid6197]

@@RCmaniac667 Lexus tried to pull the same thing with LFA and they ended up losing money on every car they sold .And it was outdated by the time it came out .

[@jasonglisson1690]

I'm not into super cars or anything but I do like learning about new vehicles. I like this. Thanks for the info.

[@danfromnorcal]

Had a '84 Carrera flat 6, 200 HP, black, with a whale tail. Really simple model, but I felt like I was driving a go-cart every time I drove it on winding backroads in southern Connecticut and upstate NY. Became a money pit though with the worst issue having been a blown voltage regulator, which then fried most of the electronics since voltage spiked well over 12 volts. Also needed a new tranny. Ah, but when it ran!

[@Ian4bis]

If I’m not mistaken didn’t pagani design cars for Lamborghini and it was a tradition for the designer to sign their car but they didn’t allow him saying no Argentinian would ever sign a Lamborghini

[@Bigchuckers]

Horracio merely revised styling, he didn't create new models for Lambo.

[@NFSBeast2365]

Lamborghini racist confirmed???

[@Ian4bis]

@@NFSBeast2365 I mean Italy was a German ally in ww2

[@kimf.wendel9113]

Very likely, since the Italians are very proud of themselves. And the Countach was designed originally by an italian

[@NFSBeast2365]

When I heard about Pagani in Hot Pursuit, I fell in love. This is a brand worth admiring with the fullest extent of my heart 🥰🥰🥰

[@luckyiscrazy9560]

Always loved the Huayra ever since I saw one at some festival that had a car show years ago. Might have even been what got me into cars as much as I am today. Something about cars that have spared nothing to give you the most immersive, jaw dropping, adrenaline pumping, and pure driving experience is amazing. If I had one wish right now, it would just be to drive it. Feel like I need to experience it once.

[@metalwolf717]

You forgot to mention the Zonda Revolucion, the even more excluvise version of the Zonda...and I was lucky enough to see a Zonda (car), racing in Zonda (place) in the Zonda (raceway) and luckily without Zonda (wind)...for anyone interested the car hit around 380 kph in the main straight of the circuit, which is not a very long one!

[@bellosanimada8888]

Aa Really brought home how bad the situation is when the guy at the end expressed gratitude for simply having enough space to stand up inside his shared apartments.

[@izangemmanueldaniel2552]

Good

[@izangemmanueldaniel2552]

I feel like a king 🤴 now in 600 sqf apartment, I could never live in Hong Kong under those conditions 😐. Poor people, the government should change their policies.

[@henrychukzy8937]

yes, agreed

[@henrychukzy8937]

These is,nt good in the sense that it ends up affecting civilians financially in different angles of life

[@bukargoni7199]

We see complains here and there on social media ,from different people in different parts all around the world

[@lzumi4746]

Hey ideal congrats on hitting 1 mill ,i wanted to ask if there is really no way for us to still drown in the sounds of v12 and v10 without damaging the earth

[@kensteinberger6968]

The damage done by a v12 is so minimal compared to everything else. If you stopped eating at McDonalds and decreased beef consumption, you would be a whole lot better for the earth even if you had two V12 supercars.

[@emerickmorrisseau6]

There is a way to still drown the sounds of v12 and v12 engines without damaging the earth. This way is using ethanol and methanol.

[@nashgraham1384]

If everyone in America got rid of their cars and rode bikes it would have basically no impact on the world as a whole. Enjoy your v12 without guilt.

[@johnmitchell2269]

Those massive shipping tankers, presidents and celebrities private planes being used every week and all the power stations burning fossil fuels, all do lot more damage than the V10 and V12 naturally aspirated engines which are as clean as they can be (and all pass every emission test world wide)

[@charliehelmijr]

I love how he's lauded for really pushing the limit with carbon fiber. And was told 'we don't care about your carbon fiber'. But now he's doing the same with regard to other technologies. 'We don't want your hybrid technology'. I'm exaggerating a bit, but there's some irony in there.

[@zippy0099]

Thanks Brad! Great presentation!!🤘🤍

[@thunder4276]

Congratulations for 1 million subs

[@simplykiwified1606]

what a banger, as a kid, (before I discovered custom cars) I didn't like your basic Ferrari, I liked these speedsters

[@RIDE_26]

You are the most passionate car enthusiast I have seen, thanks for your take on Pagani, it is really the best car I have driven on Gran Tourismo PlayStation haha

[@randyfarnsworth7825]

Great video ! Thank you

[@shariqhasan6220]

Pagani Huayra is one of the coolest and gorgeous looking car. I came across this car while playing NFS Most Wanted 2012 and I immediately fell in love with its looks. That car is also fast as hell in that game.

[@drillingig2368]

That game brings back memories man

[@gelinepequiro5292]

I also knew the car in that game, and i was really surprised how the "spoiler" of the car worked

[@shariqhasan6220]

@@gelinepequiro5292 yeah I like how the developers included that detail.

[@chrisperry2922]

The reason why Pagani was able to work on building his first car before the age of 21 is because he had a very close relationship with Mercedes Benz though his father which is why the power plant he uses for his cars are AMG V12s

[@robertr.hasspacher7731]

Thanks for being excellent. Great content guys!

[@johnjames1744]

Excellent documentary. I really enjoyed watching this video till the end. Thanks very much👍👍👍👍👍

[@jacobkeegan721]

Imagine if Horacio Pagani and Christian Von Koenigsegg both collaborated on a car project...

[@lohostege]

Pagani - Raw Performance Koenigsegg - Futuristic Performance

[@maddog7771]

An both are amazing at building beautiful cars. I love the advanced engineering behind the Koenigsegg and how beautifully bespoke they’re. You won’t find any plastic in a Koenigsegg.

[@amdenis]

I had an ‘89 Anniversary Edition Countach. It was their first world car version of the model, with fuel injection in place of down-draft webbers, carbon fiber instead of hand-fit aluminum panels and a lot smoother, more progressive power.

[@witnessriders]

Great video sir, glad I stumbled across it.

[@chanito_nyc]

I vividly remember when I received my first Zonda, the smells, the sounds, the feel. Hopefully they don’t make me wait for my Huayra very long…. Please nobody wake me up!

[@jamesrussell5952]

This brand is a dream to own. This and Porsche 911.

[@bg22757]

How can you compare a Pagani to a 911 😅

[@METRO4e]

@@bg22757 NO he wasn't comparing it to a 911 he said that his dream is to own a pagani and a 911

[@pastperformance2285]

Damn, stuff like this takes your breath away. More!

[@kentbeitel9966]

The engineering and Precision is off the charts! Pagani is some of the most beautiful machines in the world! They are my favorite hypercars ever made. I would sell my soul for one of these cars 😂😂👌

[@russcooke5671]

How much do you want for your soul.

[@Macedthur]

Ferrari insults Ferrucio - Establishes Automobili Lamborghini. Lamborghini insults Horacio - Establishes Pagani. Pagani insults an ambitious engineer -establishes his own car company and the chain goes on...

[@kimf.wendel9113]

No, Lamborghini Automobile is bought by Americans who knows nothing, and let Horaccio go and doesn't want to invest in new materials

[@Shadab_o6]

Ngl as a kid i loved pagani even to this day i think it's the most beautiful looking car and a pure work of art. I love these brands the most for just their beauty.

[@6torino9]

One of your best Brad!

[@jimcurt99]

These cars are truly beautiful. Moving art

[@kovalm3]

Great story my friend. Thank you.

[@lpg12338]

Interesting video, thanks for sharing.

[@spikethegamer6690]

That v 12 engin on the pagani zonda r is heavenly

[@bubblelex5051]

Early paganis like the c12 s and 7.3 will always be the best looking zondas ever. Simple futuristic and those curves are second to none!

[@nickvazquez8256]

Even after 20yrs it’s still makes me say dam that is a freaking nice car

[@panamera53]

Such a beautiful video, Pagani is definitely the underdogs of hypercars

[@troxigg]

Deja vu, I think insults in the motor industry result in “I’ll show you” attitude 😂

[@shineayandrews1869]

The first time I saw the Pagàni Utopia, I knew I needed to have more than one of any of the lineup.

[@Static_MK3Focus]

The man the myth the legend himself, Horacio pagani

[@skr8murda214]

@BradDanger You are literally a vibe man, I love your energy & personality. I'm happy to see that your personality is still the same, as you know.. you kinda gotten older & I'm starting to see the gray hairs creeping in. LOVE YOU MAN & KEEP UP THE GREAT VIDEOS.

[@driverjamescopeland]

For the life of me, I can't love the Huayra like I did the Zonda. To me, the Zonda was the absolute Pinnacle of hyper cars. I don't care what's faster. I don't care what's newer, or more over-the-top. The Zonda and all its various trims... was, and is, the peak. Nothing sounds better. Nothing looks better.

[@dustyatomz559]

The Huayra and the FXX my 2 favorite

[@awkc63]

As I've said since I first came across these brands in 2006, Pagani and Koenigsegg are the automotive Gods and smack literally every other brand.

[@jblifts5760]

One issue with this video, the comparison between the Huayra and the Ragera, saying the Ragera uses a fancy dual clutch… erm… no, the Ragera doesn’t have gears it’s literally direct drive

[@Josiah_Richards]

not just the huayra but any pagani, their design will never be dated or "classic" but its not futuristic, and its not really modern either, its more classy and will never get old

[@luissaavedra2995]

Pagani all the way awesome design greetings from the super ancient megalithic antediluvian city of TIAHUANAKU BOLIVIA 🇧🇴 thanks for posting

[@steen8156]

"Pagani ONLY Exists Because Lamborghini Insulted Him": Lol, the way the snow balls.

[@Nastuf]

This is why I roll my eyes when people say leave it up to only the experts. Losers and the stagnant are very comfortable.

[@AprielPhaskah]

the thumbnail huayra looks like an AMG tribute car and it looks good

[@davidspence8866]

That was a really cool video

[@ahmedsaidu-kamara6760]

Another great story of the human spirit that if you're passionate and truly believe in something, pursue it with great self belief and enthusiasm and this may be the results.

[@NBC_NCO]

I dare not even watch this video anymore for even a $30,000 vehicle is out of my price range... but what a beautiful car.

[@ninjaswordtothehead]

Imagine the car that some guy will build when he gets mad at Pagani.

[@justincharles6585]

😀

[@leobuana7430]

Funnyly enough that's how Lamborghini Supercar started the founder got p*ssed at Ferrari not giving personal costumization option

[@ABCDEFGHIJKELA...]

Love that shirt!

[@jordan.poolee]

Crazy as 🔥😮‍💨

[@ozzyprod9332]

At 6:35 I literally said out loud "carbon fiber" at the same time as the video🤣🤣

[@mrd.808]

I can see an active rear wing on the Pagani Huayra R. Curious if there will be a Huayra R Evo? Either way, Pagani is most definitely high quality OCD-attention to detail.

[@brentonbush4160]

Another Day Another Slay..

[@Iskelderon]

Gotta love the irony, considering how Lamborghini got into building sports cars.

[@adammagie4466]

Don't forget a wailing V-12...! Some of which were so loud they weren't road legal.

[@juancarlosromerothomas4777]

The New utopía is a mix between zonda and huayra

[@raymondmendez9832]

Hmmm it's like I've seen this happen before somewhere 🤔

[@thedonutmiata5135]

Tbh, idk if I would rather have a Koenigsegg agera or a Pagani huarya. I've been dreaming about both of them ever since I first heard of them.

[@mrcommando201]

How about doing a story on the Lister Storm.

[@sheldoncooper8199]

I have a Fully Tuned Pagani Huayra in GT 7 and i always finish Le Mens with Like 27 to 29 Seconds in the Lead and the others are La Ferrari and Porsche 918 and Lambogini s THIS CAR IS INSANE i won it when i beat the Game.

[@ramiror2132]

Luckily (for us) this video got outdated in less than a month and Pagani just revealed their next generation car: the Utopia. In some way it feels like a cleaned up vision of everything Pagani has made before, keeping all it always made them great. It also has some MC12 factions and that is intoxicating to watch

[@Rafrob77]

I thought this was an up to speed episode that thumbnail had me fooled

[@7oplex09]

I notice something off with Lamborghini, they're in a stagnant state. There wasn't much going on with Lamborghini, they're just basically making special editions of their existing cars and that's pretty much it. Either they're running out of ideas? or they simple don't have the budget to make other cars. I see Pagani leaped forward while Ferrari is slowly creeping up with Lamborghini and that's bad. C'mon Lambo! Do something! Edit: I forgot to mention, Lamborghini's popularity is declining for quite awhile. No one is talking about them anymore.

[@eobardthawne324]

How did you arrive at the conclusion that Lamborghinis popularity is declining. Lamborghini is the most searched manufacturer with the next manufacturer being thirty million behind.

[@huverdoose]

Now we need for Pagani to insult someone.

[@lewiswilliams7239]

First 45 seconds of this vid gave me chills wtf

[@jameskim1505]

Enzo : haha good one mate

[@andreis3416]

Ah yes, he hates Lamborghini so much that at one point the Countach 25th was on display at the Pagani factory

[@kimf.wendel9113]

Because it is so untrue. Those of us who knows the companies knows the true story and how wrong this video is. Glad to see not all buy into this garbage

[@richardike2342]

The very first Pagani, the Zonda, is still my favorite.

[@williamfischer3990]

Pagani to me is a lot like Lotus, they make cars that people just want to have fun in. They also have similar ideas make a car as light and flickable as possible with enough power.

[@godslayer1415]

You didn't need to blow Chapman to get a Lotus.

[@williamfischer3990]

@@godslayer1415 Damn, well Horacio is Italian so you might not be far off.

[@dietherplays458]

❤love the vid and Pagani ❤

[@weegabgab4687]

I love this car brand PAGANIII but i really love lamborghini too i love them i respect them they are fast in their own ways

[@westside6048]

it's unfortunate that when the proprietary Carbotanium is mentioned you show the simple 4k weave, only the tub and some structure are Carbotanium and that's a whole different appearance, the visual 4k is not proprietary

[@dembetsen9452]

Zonda is the name of a kind of hot wind in Mendoza, Argentina.

[@juckyvortex]

It's the Italian way to create new car companies. The circle of life continues until one day Horatio insults some9ne with an idea and he creates another brand.

[@automotive2024]

chain of insults gave us several gems

[@hellbat6764]

In the whole video legends just understand u r the biggest heater of Lamborghini

[@dfjdskf9234j4fisd]

Did he say a REGERA HAS A DUEL CLUTCH?!?! Lol big ooof