The REAL Reason NOBODY PLAYS SORA in Smash Bros!

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Dabuz

Dabuz

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@DabuzSSB
@DabuzSSB 2 жыл бұрын
LOL Kameme really just placed 2nd at a major today huh?
@finalmix4375
@finalmix4375 2 жыл бұрын
FIRE THUNDER FREEZE
@xxProjectJxx
@xxProjectJxx 2 жыл бұрын
@@finalmix4375 BACK OFF
@Alibaba-id1cs
@Alibaba-id1cs 2 жыл бұрын
TAKE THIS
@gabutman6144
@gabutman6144 2 жыл бұрын
You should pin this comment
@shoryu3J
@shoryu3J 2 жыл бұрын
Kameme sees video "hold my beer" lol
@VarsVerum
@VarsVerum 2 жыл бұрын
Sam likes Comic Sans. Ew.
@DabuzSSB
@DabuzSSB 2 жыл бұрын
DAMN RIGHT I DO
@KevSB07
@KevSB07 2 жыл бұрын
it really shouldn't be a surprise it was in comic sans, it was made by whydo
@adamquenano8563
@adamquenano8563 2 жыл бұрын
Hilarious Timing with this video considering the recent tournament
@enemyskill4286
@enemyskill4286 2 жыл бұрын
i was thinking the same thing
@OneLazyBoi
@OneLazyBoi 2 жыл бұрын
Wait what happened? Was it a Japanese tourney?
@Qbular
@Qbular 2 жыл бұрын
@@OneLazyBoi he got 2nd
@SleepyFawn
@SleepyFawn 2 жыл бұрын
@Ganon oh, damn, the one major i didn't see live!
@yourheroes5874
@yourheroes5874 2 жыл бұрын
Its crazy to see how NA and Japan sees the character. NA they think Sora is dog water mid tier. While in Japan, he’s a top 15 fighter. Kameme just shows how people heavily slept on Sora. Scary part is that he didn’t abuse the idjs and other techs which still means Sora has YET to be optimize. Also the only DLC to not be nerfed
@Gabriel14366
@Gabriel14366 2 жыл бұрын
I think the problem is that it's really hard to tell how much time a top player has put into sora because it's mostly going to time spent mastering positioning and movement with a super floaty character. It's much easier when you see them do crazy combos and tech to see they have put in the time and none of the sora players have started incorporating Sora's combos or ledge trap setups yet, so its hard to tell because "X" top player's sora has the same advantage state as a sora on elite smash has just with a better neutral.
@dr.rothotnik
@dr.rothotnik 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! It’s really hard to say where he’ll stand when all is said and done, I mean any character can be godly if used right. I went to a couple local tournaments just came back from one tonight and the SAME guy has been winning first place every time against actual local pros mind you, using Ganon LOL. What an OG 😂
@akumaghilardi2992
@akumaghilardi2992 2 жыл бұрын
Im actually a sora main and my Sora goes crazy. I actually play him how he should be. Still working heavy on combos but they’re so good rn. I just wanna be better.
@swaggin1716
@swaggin1716 2 жыл бұрын
Incredibly well put, yeah.
@Bladieblah
@Bladieblah 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao, you did not just say "the same advantage state as a Sora on elite smash"
@mocast3407
@mocast3407 2 жыл бұрын
Kameme has entered the chat
@omlett6482
@omlett6482 2 жыл бұрын
Sora Nair is the most complex simple move in the game
@Rhy2412TitanGamer
@Rhy2412TitanGamer 2 жыл бұрын
Double jump cancelled zair from lucas is one of the most complex as well in my eyes.
@KevSB07
@KevSB07 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, I’d say Steve has at least one more complex move But ignoring specials, Sora nair is certainly up there
@yawns3004
@yawns3004 2 жыл бұрын
How is it complex? I've always thought it was pretty straightforward
@echospace7347
@echospace7347 2 жыл бұрын
Bayo side b be like
@echospace7347
@echospace7347 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rhy2412TitanGamer agreed
@3000036
@3000036 2 жыл бұрын
as kameme gets second in glitch with sora the next day
@roryrainbow77
@roryrainbow77 2 жыл бұрын
Kameme my goat getting 2nd at a pretty solid semi international event today. Hoping his confidence in maining the character keeps up, he looks more comfortable now than he did with Megaman in earlier ultimate, and he just motivated many Sora fans to put in more time and care for this character. It does look pretty tough even so though. Those sets vs sonix took years off my life and I was not playing LMAO
@Meroknight
@Meroknight 2 жыл бұрын
Glitch was a Mickey Mouse event with only a handful of top players. Despite his wins on Zomba and Sonix, I still think Kameme's peaks are with Megaman.
@roryrainbow77
@roryrainbow77 2 жыл бұрын
@@Meroknight I don't remember him doing much of anything in this game outside of Japan with megaman, but I can be proven wrong I just don't remember him having much of any consistency, beating players at the calibre he did today
@Meroknight
@Meroknight 2 жыл бұрын
@@roryrainbow77 He wouldn't travel outside of Japan as much. But when he went to Evo 2019 in the U.S., he beat MkLeo's joker during his prime.
@SleepyFawn
@SleepyFawn 2 жыл бұрын
@@Meroknight I think beating Zomba, Sonix and a top Steve player at one event is kind of a big deal in terms of Sora's potential and Kameme's skill.
@Meroknight
@Meroknight 2 жыл бұрын
@@SleepyFawn I'm not doubting Kameme's skill at all. I'm just saying he peaked higher with Megaman. That's one of the points discussed in the Dabuz's video.
@Victor-um9ce
@Victor-um9ce 2 жыл бұрын
He'd most likely be top tier already alongside Steve if he had drive forms as a unique gimmick.
@hugeculo
@hugeculo 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love having forms!
@1stbestpokemaster
@1stbestpokemaster 2 жыл бұрын
He goes “now” or “aha” and you get a slight slow mo effect for half a second then he has valor form, two key blades, super fast ground speed, changed normals and becomes a fast faller with better stats overall like wing….ohhh one can dream.
@igaveyoupower
@igaveyoupower 2 жыл бұрын
@@1stbestpokemaster no
@1stbestpokemaster
@1stbestpokemaster 2 жыл бұрын
@@igaveyoupower yes
@Victor-um9ce
@Victor-um9ce 2 жыл бұрын
@@1stbestpokemaster I'm with you man, there's a drive gauge it increases if you do damage and when you take damage. At 3 bars you can choose between valor and wisdom form on the d-pad left or right, and in wisdom form he gains a lot more projectiles, the ability to move while using magic but loses close quarters options and speed. They should also have a chance that when you go into any form you have a chance that increases the more you go in and out of drive forms that you go into anti form in which you're unable to use projectiles, you stop being a swordy, it forces you to lose all of your gauge but you gain a lot of speed and you basically become rabid little mac with a bit less kill potential.
@Ludvix
@Ludvix 2 жыл бұрын
God I love Dabuz.
@wyventhemage
@wyventhemage 2 жыл бұрын
So true popular Melee content creator Ludvix!
@DabuzSSB
@DabuzSSB 2 жыл бұрын
God I love Ludvix.
@Ludvix
@Ludvix 2 жыл бұрын
@@DabuzSSB ;-)
@jpwest1669
@jpwest1669 2 жыл бұрын
Bad timing considering Kameme just destroyed an entire loser's bracket at a NA major with Sora, and only lost to Light against a horrible matchup
@christianrowell1081
@christianrowell1081 2 жыл бұрын
Sora is a very different from most of the characters so you have to play him differently. Sora is a beast just unexpectedly tricky.
@ferro_drip189
@ferro_drip189 2 жыл бұрын
True
@jaedynjoseph7520
@jaedynjoseph7520 2 жыл бұрын
Kameme showing us how great he is at Glitch Regen
@pepeelghetto1231
@pepeelghetto1231 2 жыл бұрын
This aged so bad so fast 😂
@Moose7701
@Moose7701 2 жыл бұрын
My final conclusion from maining Sora since his release and playing a few friendlies across lots of different character representatives, he has the tools and the fundamentals to beat most matchups. While they may not be perfectly even with some of the faster more aggressive characters (fox is a huge issue for example), he definitely doesn't just hard lose to most characters. We all know what Sora can do, its now just a matter of doing it. Slingshot has some nice applications with some upair followups that make his upb confirms more true, so I can't wait to see that implemented given enough time. There is always at least one person that represents a character just due to pride/bias reasons alone (or just to prove people wrong), and I think we all know who that is. Sora in my eyes is bottom of top tier, around 12-15th based on somebodies top tier list. He has issues with small characters and does great against big characters. He's slow like incineroar so he can be camped in a similar way, you can play really slow and campy with him as well but there are characters that do it better. Upair is one of his biggest DLC moves, definitely underused. Firaga ledge slip helps setup edgeguards on a good chunk of characters, forcing them either high or low which Sora can cover. Nair1 ff covers every ledge option bar some disjoints when you can time the opponents tempo well because of how well it encompasses Sora, but again it is a hard read on the opponents timing. If only IDJ nair was easier to do in this game without buffering (maybe hitting 2 jump buttons at the same time does it perfectly), and if the hitbox of nair was made a little more lenient for the good hitbox (right now the middle bad hitbox overlaps the good hitbox, so you have to hit it really well on the end of the keyblade to get the +10f advantage) he would for sure be a much more consistent character. Where he is now he's top tier, but very bottom of top tier.
@soundsbyzer0
@soundsbyzer0 2 жыл бұрын
You really typed all this out for nobody to care damn big bro
@Moose7701
@Moose7701 2 жыл бұрын
@@soundsbyzer0 No worries! I love Sora to death and beyond.
@jasonlobo2350
@jasonlobo2350 2 жыл бұрын
@@soundsbyzer0 just because you dont care doesnt mean everyone dont care. This was a great insight of sora so its usefull info
@soundsbyzer0
@soundsbyzer0 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonlobo2350 good for you champ
@Eskoblazin
@Eskoblazin 2 жыл бұрын
I used tap jump and normal button setup with Sora. UP, immediate X+A, FF, and repeat but mix it up with Fair. Tap jump is VITAL and easier to do IDJs with Sora.
@THXKXNG
@THXKXNG 2 жыл бұрын
Sora goes crazy.. the character is really good, but people are bad at the game. Pros have made top 8 & won tournaments with Sora.
@davidgeorge4756
@davidgeorge4756 2 жыл бұрын
He’s not good
@LinkMaster5555
@LinkMaster5555 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidgeorge4756 okay that's your take lol
@Rhy2412TitanGamer
@Rhy2412TitanGamer 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidgeorge4756 Good enough to get a high tier placing with time.
@SleepyFawn
@SleepyFawn 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidgeorge4756 easy high tier
@davidgeorge4756
@davidgeorge4756 2 жыл бұрын
@@SleepyFawn LMAOO not with that floatyness bruh
@jackcaster6912
@jackcaster6912 2 жыл бұрын
Kameme after this video 🫡🫡😏
@cutieincosplay
@cutieincosplay 2 жыл бұрын
My boy!!!😭 Sora getting second place in a tournament ❤️ I'll main him forever!!
@Tenkenzu
@Tenkenzu 2 жыл бұрын
If you can’t combo,Sora is not for you. I’m tired of ppl going back and forth about Sora everytime. He’s a good ass character and If you can’t play him then that’s just that. We don’t need to keep having the same convos about if he’s good or not. He’s good. And a major didn’t need to prove that 💯
@devhassoul
@devhassoul 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! What’s funny is that most of the people don’t even play Kingdom Hearts. They always talking shit. I think Sora is a great character in Smash. I was so happy when they announced him as the final DLC fighter.
@Tenkenzu
@Tenkenzu 2 жыл бұрын
@@devhassoul bro. You Said the realest shit. Aren’t even fans but wanna talk shit like they know about it lol. I told myself waaaay back when I was younger if Sora was to ever get in smash, that’s who my all time main would be. Favorite game character and when I seen that trailer, I wanted to leave work right away 😂
@triforcesam99
@triforcesam99 2 жыл бұрын
Only real ones know about that Combo Plus Air Combo Plus 😂🔥🔥💯
@Alibaba-id1cs
@Alibaba-id1cs 2 жыл бұрын
Great time to post a video when a Sora just got Top 2 at a major 😂😂😂
@beansfebreeze
@beansfebreeze 2 жыл бұрын
Sora was a base game character put on hold for the spectacle of his announcement
@Jaxv3r
@Jaxv3r 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah nothing could top off Sora announcement because of Disney copyright hell, beside Sephiroth because his intro is badass, yeah I agree with you
@Eskoblazin
@Eskoblazin 2 жыл бұрын
Sora and Banjo both feel like that.
@dent5672
@dent5672 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Very easy to watch yet thrilling. Had that “can’t look away” thing and I’m not sure why.
@christophereim4102
@christophereim4102 2 жыл бұрын
All Sora had to do to become Broken like the Other 5 Members, would have been making him a tiny bit more accurate to his game. AKA make it so that he doesn't go into free fall after Up-B and can use it chain into combos, make it so that his Dair doesn't leave him going straight down but be momentum based like the actual Hurricane Period and make his Counter also Reflect. Which is all accurate to how those moves works in KH1.
@MasutaMJ
@MasutaMJ Жыл бұрын
Counterattack only reflects backwards in an odd decision. But that does make it hilarious for free for alls
@prototonepr0tag0nist79
@prototonepr0tag0nist79 2 жыл бұрын
I think If you like playing Mewtwo, Lucas, Ness, Or Robin you may be able to play Sora, because that floaty feels natural and if you play Robin you know the pain of playing defensively due to horrible tilts and grabs on a character that should not be that slow. I. Learning Sora and I even think Jigglypuff would benefit as a play style for Sora, but you have to swap from defensive to aggressive constantly
@dragonjames4500
@dragonjames4500 2 жыл бұрын
I fight a Sora player every day it's annoying.
@jj6148
@jj6148 2 жыл бұрын
I legit fought 3 different Sora's yesterday and I hated it.
@citrusblast4372
@citrusblast4372 2 жыл бұрын
Just use aegis and joker matchups are painful
@vyseskies
@vyseskies 2 жыл бұрын
Kameme just literally got top 8 with Sora btw
@shovelface6874
@shovelface6874 2 жыл бұрын
Dude totally threw against sonix=[
@roryrainbow77
@roryrainbow77 2 жыл бұрын
@@shovelface6874 IT'S ALL GOOD HE GOT THE RUN BACK TO FINISH 2ND PLACE THAT'S THE GOAT
@bo0tywizard798
@bo0tywizard798 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody my ASSCHEEKS, he's one of the characters I run into the most online, fake news of the highest order 😤
@matthewbrumbeloe4090
@matthewbrumbeloe4090 2 жыл бұрын
This didn’t age well…
@harumoni
@harumoni 2 жыл бұрын
why did it not age well?
@matthewbrumbeloe4090
@matthewbrumbeloe4090 2 жыл бұрын
@@harumoni Kameme got 2nd at glitch regen with Sora literally just a few hours after this was posted
@hispookyburrito
@hispookyburrito 2 жыл бұрын
You know, I wonder how many people actually do or don't want a port of Ultimate that *only* fixes the problems and limitations on the hardware rather than add or change anything from the roster we have now. Like, getting a few more missing or requested stages, 4K/120fps, less input delay from controller, lagless online, get rid or overhaul world of light, say to add subspace levels to every single spirit battle. Also at that point we gain new cutscenes and even nintendo commercials that double down on Sora and the DLC gang joining Kirby to restore the world because Kirby is alone in the base game, but if you have the DLC and play world of light, you have like 14 characters to start from.
@AndresAndr95
@AndresAndr95 2 жыл бұрын
Kameme just put in some work, I think Sora falls into the fundamental category like wolf/Lucina/fox
@freedfg6694
@freedfg6694 2 жыл бұрын
While kameme did just get second. Sora still is by far the weakest of fighter pass 2. He's annoying an hyper defensive, but he's also just too honest. He was clearly designed with strengths and weaknesses, punishable moves. Which just isn't how fighter pass 2 was designed.
@naotosenpai2789
@naotosenpai2789 2 жыл бұрын
tbh for any sora player they should just watch kameme play its how sora should play and the dude doesnt even abuse his actual stupid stuff like the actual long nair loops
@glitchx0861
@glitchx0861 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like from a design perspective sora is probably the laziest dlc character considering he has other normals and magic spells that couldve circumvented these problems or made him more of a well rounded character. They purposefully limited themselves in terms of moveset (kingdom hearts 1) which seems lazy considering kazuya came out with twice the normals of the average character and rewriting the entire games code just for steve.
@pjs232
@pjs232 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt it was laziness and pretty certain it was all completely intentional design choices, you need to remember that they don't make Smash with just 1 v 1 tournaments in mind; it's a party game first and foremost.
@hugeculo
@hugeculo 2 жыл бұрын
@@pjs232 what is the “party” on Sora? I do see what you mean, but Sora doesn’t have a “party” mode like building blocks, having a gigantic sword, etc.
@sentoworf
@sentoworf 2 жыл бұрын
@@hugeculo i feel like Sora's "party" mode is his easy to use recovery options and alternating spells neutral b. His auto target side b is also pretty good in that environment and his general floatiness makes him easy to keep track of. Generally safe recovery and not being an input heavy character are pretty appealing traits to casual players.
@MegaSaSoRi101
@MegaSaSoRi101 2 жыл бұрын
I know It just my opinion, but I believe Sora can do and more players are giving up on the character too early.
@Saferoom45
@Saferoom45 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, like every other smash fighters it takes alot of time to get used to their movesets before you start playing as them. If they have enough time and patience they would, could, and should know and understand how using Sora works.
@Noba46688
@Noba46688 2 жыл бұрын
@@Saferoom45 just like marth, right? Nah - sora just isn’t good
@Saferoom45
@Saferoom45 2 жыл бұрын
@@Noba46688 Perhaps you are not understanding what i just said, i mean you do you just dont give a damn when i said its take ALOT OF TIME AND PATIENCE. If you have enough PATIENCE you would, could, and should know and understand his movesets.
@Noba46688
@Noba46688 2 жыл бұрын
@@Saferoom45 ah yes, the asinine “everyone can be a top tier” argument
@Saferoom45
@Saferoom45 2 жыл бұрын
@@Noba46688 If they had training any time for if, which you don't have the time and lack of commonsense. Which is why I chose end this conversation. Have a good day if there is any
@davidhill8565
@davidhill8565 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, there are fighters that were highly requested but nobody plays. There are also fighters whose debut was ill receive but many people play.
@mnkstrxx
@mnkstrxx Жыл бұрын
I never see any you use galaxy project or pull project … that pretty power secret move, she is my main !
@Bent801
@Bent801 2 жыл бұрын
This didn't age well
@elefanamir9087
@elefanamir9087 2 жыл бұрын
This aged poorly
@csto6804
@csto6804 2 жыл бұрын
i just wish they gave him a better move set or cooler things so it’ll attract more people💀
@itmewisan3339
@itmewisan3339 2 жыл бұрын
this video didn’t age well…
@YoshiBros1389
@YoshiBros1389 2 жыл бұрын
Hey that's my video 🙂
@AlMoStLeGeNdArY1
@AlMoStLeGeNdArY1 2 жыл бұрын
Kameme just said put some respeck on his name.
@Snoozy570
@Snoozy570 2 жыл бұрын
But if u give sora to much ground speed he becomes way to much to deal with
@christophermauro-barias7451
@christophermauro-barias7451 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like after watching Sonix playing sonic. Hes the best defensive player in the world and it makes Dabuz look tame
@shovelface6874
@shovelface6874 2 жыл бұрын
When I first started playing smash a few months ago I picked up sora cuz my friends said he was the worst character, I should have him in elite smash tonight. THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP WILL OVERCOME
@SleepyFawn
@SleepyFawn 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone who says sora is the worst character is either trolling or doesn't know what they're talking about. Even with his weaknesses, he's easily better than half the cast.
@ArtFullJo
@ArtFullJo 2 жыл бұрын
Can we call everyone who wants as Sora in smash the Organization???
@Valentine_And_Friends_gaming
@Valentine_And_Friends_gaming 2 жыл бұрын
The real reason is cause kratos was not added god of war 3 specifically
@dr.rothotnik
@dr.rothotnik 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think Sora was just so overhyped for what we actually got - I was kind of let down when I played him at a tournament recently… he could have been the absolute BEST character in the game because that’s what the fans deserved, they’ve wanted him in since Melee. And we finally got him, while he can be fucking deadly if used right - from my experience sometimes he’s no match against let’s say, Pyra/Mythra mains who spam the same move while camping and edgeguarding playing online or something, you feel me?😅
@soundsbyzer0
@soundsbyzer0 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao no sora was wanted in brawl and smash 4 not sure where you got melee from kid
@dr.rothotnik
@dr.rothotnik 2 жыл бұрын
@@soundsbyzer0 You’d be surprised- well at the very least where I come from people wanted Sora and I was 6 at the time lol 😂
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 Жыл бұрын
@@dr.rothotnik What you have to remember is that Sora is more faithful to Kingdom Hearts 1 than 2, because 1 is a harder game. I seen some one take about over 5 minutes to fight one of the super bosses in KH 1. So Sora can't afford to be as aggressive as say Cloud, but unlike Cloud, Sora has better recovery is great as avoiding.
@jakk2631
@jakk2631 2 жыл бұрын
I want to use him but I don't like how floty he is and I don't like the 3 hit thing feels too slow / unsatisfying
@shortesnameofalltime
@shortesnameofalltime 2 жыл бұрын
HORRIBLE HORRIBLE TIMING DABUZ
@ElChicoBush
@ElChicoBush 2 жыл бұрын
It was now or never, I suppose
@JMJAPO
@JMJAPO 2 жыл бұрын
This video got old really fast.
@bboyposeidondw
@bboyposeidondw 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this my dude as a sora main I’m fucking trying my dude struggling hard
@Saferoom45
@Saferoom45 2 жыл бұрын
Take all the time you need to get used to it friend, no rush nor pressure and no problem
@gigaflare9710
@gigaflare9710 2 жыл бұрын
The real reason? Because I haven’t pooped off yet 😈 just wait for me
@devinsimmons2100
@devinsimmons2100 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone mad until mkleo picks him up 👀
@sandycrash8868
@sandycrash8868 2 жыл бұрын
This is clearly not the case for online lol
@burakyesiloglu5218
@burakyesiloglu5218 2 жыл бұрын
Most hyped character but least played character
@michaelsizelove9392
@michaelsizelove9392 2 жыл бұрын
Sora in top 3 at Glitch Regen right now
@nachot6592
@nachot6592 2 жыл бұрын
I come from the future...
@sinfinite7516
@sinfinite7516 2 жыл бұрын
Sora too complex to come out this late in the game sadly
@dr.rothotnik
@dr.rothotnik 2 жыл бұрын
TEA TEA TEA 🔥
@ankydarkness
@ankydarkness 2 жыл бұрын
When I see comments like this I wonder if people legit think Ult is going away any time soon?
@akumaghilardi2992
@akumaghilardi2992 2 жыл бұрын
Im actually a sora main and my Sora goes crazy. I actually play him how he should be. Still working heavy on combos but they’re so good rn. I just wanna be better. In reality from how much I play sora can beat a lot of characters. You just gotta be good with him.
@soundsbyzer0
@soundsbyzer0 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao you probably play people that aren’t good at all and you’re probably an average player yourself relax and I kno I’m not good so don’t try and flip it on me 😊
@akumaghilardi2992
@akumaghilardi2992 2 жыл бұрын
@@soundsbyzer0 hahah Nah I play above 12m Gsp there’s a lot of salts up there and I bet I’m better than you by a lot so No. my Sora is great. I won more times than lose. Don’t portray tour reasons at being ass.
@jrkev1
@jrkev1 2 жыл бұрын
Hello fellow 0-2'er
@sword_pro_8
@sword_pro_8 2 жыл бұрын
Vars even gave u a shoutout lol
@noirlavender6409
@noirlavender6409 2 жыл бұрын
My reason is that he sucks, he has the most dlc recovery but the least dlc combos and kill potential, he's slow, big, and light -has the same issues as mewtwo but somehow lacks kill power and the mixups mewtwo has he''s next to banjo as a solid WORST DLC CHARACTER, most of other dlcs can touch you and take you from 0 to 60% on a single string that doesn't require much technical execution but with sora not only can't do that nearly as easily but you gotta fish for openings while not really having real zoning potential nor approach options
@SleepyFawn
@SleepyFawn 2 жыл бұрын
... Big? He ain't big lmao
@Rhy2412TitanGamer
@Rhy2412TitanGamer 2 жыл бұрын
Sora is not big. He's small as crap.
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 Жыл бұрын
What you have to remember is that Sora is more faithful to Kingdom Hearts 1 than 2, because 1 is a harder game. I seen some one take about over 5 minutes to fight one of the super bosses in KH 1. So Sora can't afford to be as aggressive as say Cloud, but unlike Cloud, Sora has better recovery is great as avoiding.
@matthewritt8836
@matthewritt8836 2 жыл бұрын
smh dabuz isnt even subbed to vars
@ish7504
@ish7504 2 жыл бұрын
Sora is the best in the game, they'd know if they fought against mine
@miguelvillarreal9929
@miguelvillarreal9929 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't played kingdom hearts jsjsjs
@kefirtompkins7338
@kefirtompkins7338 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like sora at his best when he starts peaking is going to steam roll in a similar fashion to kazuya but with the ability and sorta the need to play defensive after taking stocks like a Fox mixed with kazuya that’s how I see his offense and sorta defense
@arthurtrajano2994
@arthurtrajano2994 2 жыл бұрын
Kameme!
@wumbofruit1087
@wumbofruit1087 2 жыл бұрын
They are cowards
@AztecMania
@AztecMania 2 жыл бұрын
Coming from an ex Sora player, used him since release and dropped him because he is not fun for me anymore, Vars is right
@calebgoodman3028
@calebgoodman3028 2 жыл бұрын
To give my thoughts on this, I believe him being weaker in competitive is justified. It’s worth noting that Sora, while having a lot of experience, isn’t actually trained in fighting, with this game using his appearance from the first game where his experience in battle came from a timeframe of a few weeks at the most. Meanwhile a lot of the other characters either do have training or have years more experience. If it was another Kingdom Hearts character like Eraqus or Terra then we’d have AOE and freaking nuclear cannons to worry about. I never cared for competitive play and Sakurai did try to make Sora as close to his first appearance as possible, before he gained OP abilities like form changes, keyblade transformations and time travel (though that last one would forfeit his life) so he’s very weak, pretty much intentionally and is more suited for those that like Kingdom Hearts.
@meteornome2556
@meteornome2556 2 жыл бұрын
I mean Sora by KH1 already had more experience with a sword than Cloud in FF7 did, Cloud main technique is to just spin the Buster Sword around and rely on his enhanced strength.
@calebgoodman3028
@calebgoodman3028 2 жыл бұрын
@@meteornome2556 The thing is Cloud was holding back. We only get to see his true power in a cutscene after beating Sephiroth (who was also holding back) and they were crackling with energy and flying at high speeds all across the stage.
@meteornome2556
@meteornome2556 2 жыл бұрын
@@calebgoodman3028 I'm talking about FF7 not KH.
@calebgoodman3028
@calebgoodman3028 2 жыл бұрын
@@meteornome2556 Okay let’s factor that in as well. Cloud has military training and super-serum. Yes he failed to become a SOLDIER but by the end he was able to scale to Sephiroth, even after he became a god. Also unlike Sora he still has all his powers such as the Advent Children movie and while it was reset in the remakes continuity he shows even more power than he had in the original continuity. Sora is a normal teenage boy from an island with little to no experience outside of his home until the events of his world being destroyed and tends to lose his powers a lot. While he still has two years (technically 1 year due to his coma) of having *potential* experience, his *actual* experience keeps getting stolen from him. In chronological order he lost them as a result of Castle Oblivion’s amnesia inducing effects, lost what he regained after that due to getting his original memories restored at the cost of his new ones, lost his new powers in order to get formal training during his Mark of Mastery exam, lost those powers after nearly getting body snatched and drained, and while we have yet to see if the same will happen again considering he *died* and is trapped in a fictional world with new abilities it’s likely he lost his powers *again.* Cloud doesn’t have that problem and he’s likely based on his Advent Children version since he uses a different Final Smash depending on if he’s using the Buster Sword or his Fusion Sword which is the replacement he used in the movie. Now I love Sora as a character, out of all the characters Nomura worked on I prefer Sora over Cloud by a long shot even if I feel Cloud is way more interesting. However I also feel that even though Sora can regain his lost powers at fast rates and thus is way more versatile this isn’t the case in Smash and Cloud would be stronger by far.
@meteornome2556
@meteornome2556 2 жыл бұрын
@@calebgoodman3028 ​ Cloud was trained in how to use a gun and a baton not a sword. Since getting the Keyblade Sora has gotten superhuman abilities and even though he loses his abilities he still retains his overall experience and gains brand new abilities extremely quickly as you already noted. Even in KH3 when he was depowered, He can already summon magical amusement park rides out of nowhere which demonstrates that he still has his magical experience from DDD, and his agility such as Flowmotion from said game. Now I agree that in Smash if it's Advent Children Cloud of course he's going to be stronger than a KH1 era Sora. I was mostly referring to the two characters when they were growing up before their adventure.
@soundsbyzer0
@soundsbyzer0 2 жыл бұрын
Shows a zero to death combo with sora right after he jus said sora is harder to play than sephiroth lmao you people are high as balls
@korlmusic5159
@korlmusic5159 2 жыл бұрын
The way you say “Right” is over kill. I don’t get what’s with all these content creators feeling the need to say “Right”… like at 4:21 you say “Right” before even making any statement…cringe.
@brentontreloar419
@brentontreloar419 2 жыл бұрын
I just want you to know that whatever is going on in your life right now, you can get through it and you'll be ok
@SleepyFawn
@SleepyFawn 2 жыл бұрын
Wtf is this comment lol
@DabuzSSB
@DabuzSSB 2 жыл бұрын
LMFAO
@SleepyFawn
@SleepyFawn 2 жыл бұрын
@@DabuzSSB I would tell you not to worry about it, but I don't think it makes enough sense to even have to say that lmao. In other news, I'm pretty inspired to NOT drop my sora now!
@BBB-pe3ip
@BBB-pe3ip 2 жыл бұрын
There's nothing wrong with not feeling like a Fighter Pass character. These characters exploit gimmicks to win. They usually have BS comeback mechanics and superficial flashiness/explosions to generate fake hype.
@beansfebreeze
@beansfebreeze 2 жыл бұрын
Cope
@ninjaking7256
@ninjaking7256 2 жыл бұрын
What a waste of a character slot could have been used for someone like Shadow or dr Eggman, heck even Dante would be better.
@davidgeorge4756
@davidgeorge4756 2 жыл бұрын
sora is bad end of story.
@Cheesehead302
@Cheesehead302 2 жыл бұрын
And borinf
@iiKryptc
@iiKryptc 2 жыл бұрын
Watch kameme
@davidgeorge4756
@davidgeorge4756 2 жыл бұрын
@@iiKryptc I have and he is still Boring
@ffsAD
@ffsAD 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidgeorge4756 skill issue
@Rhy2412TitanGamer
@Rhy2412TitanGamer 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidgeorge4756 being tournament viable is different from boring. Sora is also no where near the level of boring as some certain other characters.
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