Please include Maister's name in the titles too. I love MKLeo (and Dabuz), but Maister deserves love and attention. Plus, he always has such a great positive and humorous spirit. Please consider, thanks! Love you all!
@farewell4187 ай бұрын
Even Luminosity disrespects Maister, my man needs more love
@nonobobo70177 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure they don't put it cause he's Always there (thankfully)
@nebula88937 ай бұрын
@@nonobobo7017 that doesn't work though because dabuz isn't in the title either
@_slippery_517 ай бұрын
Agreeeeed
@AtlasCorporationRAD7 ай бұрын
I swear Maister is more of a host than Leo tbh.
@DabuzSSB7 ай бұрын
Fuck I cursed myself didn't I?
@goldman19967 ай бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAHA
@After-all-this7 ай бұрын
Why so you look like a Greek God
@rednuhT6 ай бұрын
You're good at that, aren't you?
@tikprpro037 ай бұрын
"Mkleo and Dabuz react to..." Maister: ...
@coolleorealms14957 ай бұрын
Who else is just watching while watching Genesis
@squid_kid51087 ай бұрын
Who else watching while at Genesis?
@sarahsloot22907 ай бұрын
Genesis has had too many ads, I’ve probably had bad luck but I keep getting 1 match and a stream break
@MartinGarcia-ut7zk7 ай бұрын
Everyone should be doing that rn 😂
@LegendaryRyu7 ай бұрын
"Zackray's pit at genesis"... "genesis"... "genesis"
@Skyrura7 ай бұрын
"'It's gonna be really funny if I say all these things, and then I lose to zackray's Pit at Genesis." Oh dear.
@randomguy81077 ай бұрын
2- and 3-stocked in games 3-5
@trombonegamer147 ай бұрын
Lmao, zackray 3 0d Miya, don't take it personally dabuz
@randomguy81077 ай бұрын
@@trombonegamer14 TRUUUUE altho Miya was probably not in good shape after losing to Raflow
@trombonegamer147 ай бұрын
@@randomguy8107 it was also such a long day. You could tell in the last few sets that players were just exhausted. Poor Shadic was tweaking
@randomguy81077 ай бұрын
@@trombonegamer14 ofc, I thought Gluto played somewhat weird vs Zomba and afterwards too (Zomba is on an insane run tho)
@da_omeegadood34637 ай бұрын
Fun fact is that incin was the lowest ranked character with at least one player placing him top 5 and palu is the highest ranked character with no player placing her in top 5
@coreyodell62207 ай бұрын
😂 does the person that says Incin Top5 happen to go by Kurama?
@farewell4187 ай бұрын
Incin is in a perfect spot, I think every character above him is better and more consistent than him. SkyJay is just the GOAT.
@randomguy81077 ай бұрын
@@coreyodell6220Mute put Incin top5
@dysr7 ай бұрын
The funniest thing is that whoever put Incin in top 5 didn’t even play Skyjay that season.
@203arbour97 ай бұрын
i thought bayonetta was the lowest placing character who was in the top 5, or did bloom not put her in the top 5?
@huck_nyc7 ай бұрын
Damn dabuz really did jinx himself against zackrays pit
@denmuchel3447 ай бұрын
Me opening bracket to see that Dabuz did indeed lose to zackrays pit
@limeminun60427 ай бұрын
29:38 He called it... he lost to zackray pit
@invalidssb7 ай бұрын
29:46 3-2 Zackray Dabuz at Genesis X 😶🌫
@romanroyer70577 ай бұрын
Hey! I'm a new Lumosity fan so I don't know how all the bureaucracy works, but I wanted to say that EE and Maister are the some of my favorite people I'm laughing with in these videos. Knowing that Maister is there ensures a view from me, and seemingly many Luminosity fans. All the love for Dabuz and MKLeo though!!
@cozydinosaur5877 ай бұрын
As a Mewtwo main, I don't use teleport except for recovery and teleport canceling, I agree on him being a very high risk character, but I know he's got potential and I'm never giving up on my homie, Mewtwo main since day one, Mewtwo main when I die 😂
@andrebaxter40237 ай бұрын
Respect. 🫡
@Gigabyte019Ай бұрын
Us m2 mains got to stick together
@Psytheslasher7 ай бұрын
yall wanna say falcons bad and then argue that kirby won a tournament so hes lowkey good, when falcon is getting wins in fucking JAPAN of all places
@IsaacPK7 ай бұрын
Maister is there too LMAO the disrespect
@owenicewater97047 ай бұрын
I am a simple person. I see Dabuz. I click.
@guillermotrujillo55757 ай бұрын
I like Dabuzz when he’s not playing campy
@melleen6297 ай бұрын
Maister being gaslit on Bowser Jr lmao
@theelectricant987 ай бұрын
Nah Jr is versatile and good
@2004bestgamer7 ай бұрын
As someone fine tuning playing with Kazuya, it takes ALOT of practice to get down the command inputs it takes to do the electric combos. Shoot, just to do electric in general. Missing an electric can cost you the match. Missing a landing on platforms after an electric can cost you the match. These are just a few trade offs that can make or break him being broken. That’s the only reason I’d say he’s fine the way he is. High risk, high reward.
@greatgourami39467 ай бұрын
Idk about high risk
@capitanpastabase63427 ай бұрын
not really cuz at high level execution difficulty is not that relevant since all to players have good execution
@woop78426 ай бұрын
@@greatgourami3946 at top level he gets blown up with his disadvantage, watch recent riddles sets
@smashbrosgoat4 ай бұрын
tbh he's a poorly designed character. ewgf is supposed to juggle the opponent not cause hitstun, also uses the wrong sound design too. kazuya does not have a lot of moves and has a horrible disadvantage too.
@flamingfury2877 ай бұрын
I (cloud and kazuya main) personally would counterpick to Kirby the moment I see a pythra on screen. I lowkey think that matchup's good for Kirby.
@mannya.h.9677 ай бұрын
Aegis main and I lowkey agree. He handles mythra well in neutral, and has really great edge guards against them bc of their linear and weak recovery. If you’re recovering low and don’t space perfectly or up-b early, Drill is taking your stock at 10. I do think pyra absolutely stomps Kirby though, I play much more spacing and Pyra heavy and she will delete the little guy at 50. Still a winning MU for aegis imo, like +1 maybe +2 but it’s not as bad for Kirby as you’d expect it to be
@Junr7777 ай бұрын
"Good for kirby" lmao
@drainstorM117 ай бұрын
That point about Incin sideb is so real. I will never understand why a character with such rigid recovery options never gets edgeguarded. I feel like I get reversals more often than I get edgeguarded. Being able to get gimps with my upb and sideb is pretty nutty
@Spyder-Marth7 ай бұрын
48:10 I agree with this take. I wanted to Solo main Corrin but some MUs are far too wacky for her. Marth compliments her very well. I was struggling against Byleths as Corrin but the moment I picked Marth I started cleaning them up lol.
@trombonegamer147 ай бұрын
I definitely think she is solo mainable, but like all solo mains barring like 3 characters, it's very difficult. But there are 2 solo mains in today's top 8, and that is crazy. More reps than any other character
@actuallyandy057 ай бұрын
Would love more gameplay in the tier list videos. And more respect for players other than Leo. Great vid!
@onlyaquaa7 ай бұрын
"MKLeo and Dabuz React" rip maister
@tigron15307 ай бұрын
Rip dabuz
@rague26637 ай бұрын
Link should be B+
@theelectricant987 ай бұрын
Its the shulk problem of being great in theory but not enough players doing it in practice
@bonni44937 ай бұрын
37:48 BASED Sephiroth take
@Uran107 ай бұрын
Listening to this after genesis and hearing the bo3 talk at the end and thinking... the amount of foreshadowing that was in this one episode...
@I-am-a-Gordo3272 ай бұрын
8:22 i love Maisters reaction to that its hilarious. 😂
@asimpledoctor7 ай бұрын
Great video! Love these guys talking and enjoying smash tier lists this long into the game
@OniiChanPls7 ай бұрын
Hey guys love the content is always but I am an audio only guy so next time we do something related to something like this can we get comments like this character is in this tier this character is in that tier? I just want to follow a long a bit more smoothly since being on my phone while I drive is not very ideal
@anwnerd17627 ай бұрын
You can tell nearly all of maister's opinions on the tier list come from a game and watch main
@mamodokod7 ай бұрын
Im a bit sad they didnt talk about my main ryu. I wouldve liked their input on whats good and bad about him
@echospace73477 ай бұрын
Mewtwo and robin should be higher
@TopTierGamerMan7 ай бұрын
Hey Kirby mains, Kirby went up a spot. I call that victory.
@Ordinary2184 ай бұрын
20:52 The weird part of Bowsers down air and down b is that it for some dumb reason works.
@samk240726 күн бұрын
I feel like robin and bowser jr are characters where, you play against one random local guy who a super specialist that mains this character and you're just like wtf this character is actually broken how are they not higher on the tier list.
@mjbrownii7 ай бұрын
I be handling people online with Zelda. As a matter of fact my highest gsp is Jiggly and 2nd is Zelda. To me Zelda is A tier if you know what you’re doing and if you hit those strong spots on attacks.
@jasonlee27677 ай бұрын
LOL Meister was like "WHAT DID I SAY BEFORE- VERBATIM"
@gameboyn647 ай бұрын
I said several years ago that lucina was a bottom of high, top of mid type character and got attacked for it. Meanwhile every year lucina dropped a little bit at a time and is now exactly where i said she should be.
@gameboyn646 ай бұрын
@TreyMM-qz4wg in who's opinion?
@Nolimittk45 ай бұрын
Maister new haircut looking 🔥
@oldycow4 ай бұрын
I've said since day 1 Incineroar was underrated... his speed is the only reason he isn't like top 10 or top 5 even
@jackvogel7017 ай бұрын
Waaaaait Dabuz did lose to Zackray lmaooo
@roryrainbow777 ай бұрын
Galaxy brain GOAT guest
@SirNarax6 ай бұрын
I am no pro smash player not even close but if I may offer my 2 cents about Kirby. Kirby has a lot potential but he is very weak to being zoned and camped (hard to approach). Kirby's placement makes sense when you consider what kind of characters and strategies are at the upper levels of the list. The safer and risk free strategies are stronger and Kirby doesn't have a risk free strategy.
@Ripimaverage7 ай бұрын
Seph, sheik young link and grenninja should be in A
@attaboytom7 ай бұрын
Sonix just shakin his head rn. I can feel it
@Creepo_J5 ай бұрын
Let the chaos and confusion grow
@mrb-btw7 ай бұрын
2:46 do you think kirby is better than sheik, crazy ass question
@joeyn46447 ай бұрын
Dabuz showing the Jr’s some love ❤️
@alvaroguel96236 ай бұрын
THAT SONIC SPIN DASH WITH ARMOR!!!!
@plastickkerorolm48896 ай бұрын
I fully believe lucina is very high up. But i also believe the gap between chrom and roy is smaller than the gap between marth and lucina. Lucina has almost only advantages over marth. While there is a argument that chrom has some tools better than roy and roy is just overrall better.
@TheSpiritOfGeorgia7 ай бұрын
great episode, really enjoyed the conversation
@Iso_SSB7 ай бұрын
29:38 well he lost to Zackray 😂😂
@JonathanRodriguez-cl8gq6 ай бұрын
Cosmos always catching strays.
@plabcentral6307 ай бұрын
Bro y’all gotta put maister in the title. He low key makes the vids twice as good.
@OrashiTV7 ай бұрын
If Ike had his 1.0 NAIR, with his current tool kit, he’d be PERFECT. . .
@izmizzle7 ай бұрын
They removed dabuz from title lol its only leo now
@hecticmojo45327 ай бұрын
Incin is cheesy but he’s the only heavy that you have to respect. I hate him because my rival is an Incin main but I love to watch Skyjay
@DerRiese6257 ай бұрын
Glad to see my boy mii brawler getting at least a B tier although i think he is at least bottom A-
@Austindogftw7 ай бұрын
17:22, again if you're playing a low tier character and you keep losing, just get good
@くまかい-q7k7 ай бұрын
%90 of sephiroth players play defensively and thats not how he should be played at the top level, hes fast, has long range and shield pressure, he can be oppressive against many characters.
@Ripimaverage7 ай бұрын
Sephiroth needs to space his attacks to be safe on shield so a little harder to be more offensive, But he definitely should be played more aggressively like Kens or Neds, not tweek
@drunkpanda_17 ай бұрын
the best smash bros channel
@andrebaxter40237 ай бұрын
Sephiroth should be A- at least.
@Ripimaverage7 ай бұрын
The community called him mid since his release but when he is mid everyone saying, “hes high tier bro” But i think seph has potential to be a upper high tier or atleast middle of high tier
@andruemcmillan94687 ай бұрын
1:04:55 This was not good timing
@chandyboy107 ай бұрын
I’m a duck hunt believer and main!
@ObitheoneNonly7 ай бұрын
highest placing person in the video not in the title 😭
@aidanxavier20487 ай бұрын
3 people I don’t trust to talk about tier lists whatsoever, can’t wait to watch it at all
@StepCat7 ай бұрын
Maister... lowkey.... pick up jr!! you would go crazy with him
@Keeby.2 ай бұрын
Kirby sucks because all he has is crotch Other characters can just do exactly what he does but better That being said, his crotch does and dtilt do give him a decent MU chart because it can invalidate some characters Give kirby disjoints on his tilts and maybe a faster nair oss and hes actually pretty good
@neonzitro40327 ай бұрын
this video is hilarious after genesis
@pangrey89317 ай бұрын
then dabuz gets reverse 3-0'd by pit
@anyaforger84847 ай бұрын
Damn I think this tier list have been make by skyjay that the only explication I have 😂
@GamersWithFaithАй бұрын
Ike should be mid high tier
@fistpump642 ай бұрын
nah kaz is fine his from a fighting game this is him sorry guys.
@jynjilly7 ай бұрын
Add Maister’s name to the title 👍
@yadielgarcia17727 ай бұрын
Is link that bad that he is in C tier😢? Or it's because of his lack of presence competitively?
@elchupacabra14067 ай бұрын
29:40 Lololol
@ceb12427 ай бұрын
Incin is not on par with shulk what
@personapromedio21197 ай бұрын
Marth C Tier 😕
@Spyder-Marth7 ай бұрын
It's a dumb take. Glad Leo believes he is A tier
@uzefbrikleod7 ай бұрын
No talk about yink?
@sharifbrown35677 ай бұрын
Robin mains unite
@anwnerd17627 ай бұрын
Lets goooo
@asdgswgasdg6 ай бұрын
S tier snake? Idk man seems a little high
@noil90slligadas835 ай бұрын
bro maister?
@bestsnowboarderuknow21 күн бұрын
Too much footage of their face. Not enough footage of what their talking about. Comes off as lazy editing.
@germanpigrat78216 ай бұрын
He should be top ten cuz he’s my pookie
@EdWiNaToR12077 ай бұрын
SNAKE THE MOST OVERRATED CHARACTER OF ALL TIME
@ahmedalmansoori28217 ай бұрын
Maister is so cute 😍
@smashbrosgoat7 ай бұрын
This Is one of The WORST Tier Lists i've ever seen because the places for some of these characters are so OUTRAGEOUSLY BAD that it's not even funny. Ken, Mii Brawler, Ryu, Sheik, and Greninja ARE NOWHERE NEAR B TIER. THEY ARE BETTER THAN JUST B-. Putting Corrin above FREAKING TERRY is just pure Delusion and Copium. KAZUYA IS NOT A TIER, HE is ATLEAST AN S-. Putting Ice Climbers in C TIER without Acknowledging The INSANE COMBO POTENTIAL THEY HAVE when in Desync is SO LAUGHABLY STUPID. the first tier list had awkward placements but THIS 2ND TIER LIST is ALL over the place.
@someguy4016 ай бұрын
Corrin A Tier based
@basharissa66367 ай бұрын
Leo washed?
@neopixelosu7 ай бұрын
I love how the response to not putting maister in the title doesn't cause maister to be put in the title, it just means that now dabuz doesn't get to be there either
@rheawelsh41427 ай бұрын
By April the title will be whittled down to "Smash List"
@avalonaura40767 ай бұрын
They changed the f*cking title to only have Leo's name. I'm dying.
@rednuhT7 ай бұрын
I cannot believe this... I and many others commented about including Maisters name in the titles, I guess that's why? Lol, it is funny.
@legomyeggo_72447 ай бұрын
It’s official Bowser Jr. in S tier
@DGSnowolf7 ай бұрын
29:37 WELL WELL WELL
@FlameEcho7 ай бұрын
I think Pit's a bit weird, like Dabuz says he doesn't really have any messed up shit he can do to you, but he's got a crazy well rounded defensive toolkit that means he can answer almost every other character's bullshit. So he would be like the worst character to use as a counterpick, but if you're a player like Zackray you just get 55-45 to 45-55 matchups all day long and just focus on learning your opponent and outplaying them.
@CameramanI887 ай бұрын
43:50 I’m so happy they talked about Lucina. In tier list videos, players tend to not really go into specifics with her placement. They usually just say she’s solid but honest and then move on. I think she’s a really interesting case because it feels like she can fight against the best characters in the game, but she struggles with predictability and stock taking and as a result she gets placed rather low on the tier list
@smashbrosgoat7 ай бұрын
clone character
@Saltyoven7 ай бұрын
The issue with Ultimate tier lists in general is understanding how surprisingly balanced ultimate really is, the fact you actually NEED to know every matchup, and the fact even the mid tiers can in fact win majors.
@andrebaxter40237 ай бұрын
Yup.
@greatgourami39467 ай бұрын
EVERYONE IS HERE
@andrewcavallo18777 ай бұрын
While I do agree that a lot of the roster is balanced, I find it hard to agree when people say the whole game is balanced. When you consider the struggles of D and E tier characters vs. the massive advantage of S tier characters (and those nearby), that’s a whole third of the roster that just isn’t balanced with the rest. The game may be an improvement in balance on some games in the past, but it’s still way too far away from ideal to be called an overall balanced game. This is to be expected given the roster size but I feel they’ve had plenty of time to improve on it with patches and just haven’t.
@andrewcavallo18776 ай бұрын
@TreyMM-qz4wg I beg to differ. There is a point where a “top rep” is impossible to achieve when a character is a certain level worse than the characters that are played at the top level. Having one good high tier matchup is not enough to survive in a competitive scene with at least 30 different characters considered “high tier”. You’ll only win 1/30th of your games if each player plays to perfection.
@Creepo_J5 ай бұрын
@@andrewcavallo1877 Things are so unbalanced in good and bad ways that it’s balanced Ultimate giving every character strong offense
@jarenmcmillan60827 ай бұрын
“Byleth lowkey sucks” 😂 no wonder Leo hasn’t been using him recently
@Megaleg7 ай бұрын
Nice pikmin 3 poster in The background maister
@bigtoblerone84467 ай бұрын
MKLeo's and Maister's tier list was handled better than this recent tourney effected bias one was; it's a shame it's considered the "official" one.
@illford7 ай бұрын
We gotta hope TM7 Zapp doesn't have a job or school they've killed every other rising bowser jr player
@theelectricant987 ай бұрын
Kirby has great frames and combos but its so painful having no speed or range