The REAL Reason Voldemort Visited Grindelwald - Harry Potter Explained

Welcome to Harry Potter Theory. Today we’re discussing Voldemort and Grindelwald. More specifically- I’m going to be discussing Voldemort’s wild goose chase in tracking Grindelwald down, and WHY he did it. Grindelwald was famously defeated by Dumbledore in 1945, and that news was spread far and wide- so what could Grindelwald possibly offer Voldemort? Why would he still possess a certain wand?
Voldemort and Grindelwald, during their respective pursuits of power over the course of history, were each able to shake the wizarding world to its core. However, it should be noted that these men did actually have quite different objectives. Grindelwald wanted to obtain the Deathly Hallows, overthrow the statute of secrecy, and establish wizarding dominance over the muggle world- with no particular goal to ‘eradicate’ muggles or muggle-borns. Voldemort’s objective was much simpler - exterminate and enslave anyone that either opposed him or didn’t come from a pure magical blood line. In this way, though they are both undoubtedly evil, Voldemort was a lot more sinister.
And by the time 1945 rolled around, and Grindelwald’s own reign of terror was brought to an end- Voldemort was just getting started in his own dark pursuits. The defeat of Grindelwald only meant that were would be a brief pause in Tyranny, as in 1970 the first wizarding war officially began.
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[@HarryPotterTheory]

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[@phyllisthomas1500]

I disagree with this.

[@HarryPotterTheory]

@@phyllisthomas1500 What

[@rafaelnegron7007]

not much info. everyone knows that.

[@edwinteulon]

@@rafaelnegron7007 "not much info", so pretty much the same as your nonsensical comments?

[@aricstradtmann9972]

Actually you forgot he only wanted the elder wand after he forced Lucias Malloy wand failed him during the battle of the 7 potters

[@VarjoPira]

It makes sense for Voldemort to largely ignore wandcraft and wand lore. For someone such as him, they're only tools to add to his power; not intimate, unique personalities to work in tandem with. Similar to the concept of love, Voldemort simply could not completely grasp this relationship.

[@Goldengirl48]

True, plus Voldemort would never consider sharing power with anything most especially a wand which was at best a tool and at the very least a stick of wood with core to use to focus power not share it.

[@VitaEx]

More like Voldemort simply could not completely grasp any relationship. That implies a vulnerability in giving of ones self

[@WrathOfBlades]

Beyond that, Voldemort seems to have some sort of dominance over wands. He can bring out most of his power regardless of the wand, shown by how easily he takes one of his followers wands and uses magic through it. Even the Elder Wand, which only serves 1 true master at a time, didn't weaken his strength when he used it. For someone who had all wands function similarly to each other for him, wand lore would be trivial. Why care if they all work the same.

[@johnlawful2272]

@@WrathOfBlades because it was his down fall

[@skebaba918]

@@WrathOfBlades I assume most people of similar power level can practically force similar-ish efficiency rates regardless of the owner of a wand or wand type etc.

[@TheDeadGunslinger]

I love how Grindelwald just laughed in Toms face and called him a bitch, knowing Tommy would kill him, so he could finally greet death.

[@tomaskops7119]

After 53 years of prison death must be good

[@TheEvertw]

Great point! Grindelwald was perhaps the only wizard ever to have owned the Eldar wand and lost it, yet not die -- up to that point. Perhaps minutes after Grindelwald's death, a new wizard was to loose the wand but not his life. Poetic stuff!

[@HHLucifer666]

@@TheEvertw realistically it was probably more like "hey guys I got the elder wand now so I guess how we just pressure potter to reveal himself and then we strike!" 24 hours to 1 week later Battle of hogwarts begins and ends

[@zacharyjochumsen9677]

@@HHLucifer666 well thing grnflewald her was rely old and pet muchnsloely dyong but he still.had could ofbfoughtom

[@MonkeyD.Moritz]

@@zacharyjochumsen9677Bro what

[@aerrae5608]

The thing about it is that Grindelwald was also a great seer. He probably knew he could help Harry and thus Dumbledore by stalling Voldemort by goading him. So in the end Voldemort may have been more powerful and devious but he wasn't half as clever as Grindelwald or Dumbledore.

[@TheSolarium18]

Voldemord wasnt more powerful than dumbledore thats a big misconception A mortal Voldemord would have been killed by Dumbledore and a Dumbledore who never killed his sister and therefore would have never shied away to study, use and master the dark arts would have destroyed voldemord without a problem

[@MrMarek19]

They were smart.......not arogant like voldemort as he was

[@headstrongbachelor3152]

@@TheSolarium18 Voldemort conjured the shield because he believed Dumbledore would use the killing curse on him, so no it would not make any different if Dumbledore used the dark arts. In fact Dumbledore used a lot of offensive spell against Voldemort... On the other hand if Fawkes did not came between then Voldemort would have killed Dumbledore. Therefore we have evidence that Voldemort is more powerful than Dumbledore.

[@TheSolarium18]

@@headstrongbachelor3152 Dumbledore most likely planned Fawkes action There is no shield spell against Avada Kedavra Dumbledore used semi offensive spells which were never casted to kill (And Dumbledores only goal in that fight was to gain time to expose voldemord remember there was no way to kill him) Dumbledore would not have been affected by age if he would have studied the dark arts and created a Horcrux so if a old weakened version of Dumbledore which also doesn’t use the most powerful offensive spells can stand against immortal riddle, an also immortal, prime Dumbledore would destroy him (Dumbledore says himself he is no longer in his prime and not as fast and powerful as he was) And a more evil version of Dumbledore would have also used the special abilities of the elder wand

[@headstrongbachelor3152]

@@TheSolarium18 The killing curse can be blocked by objects and Voldemort conjured an object in the shape of a shield, so using the dark arts would not help Dumbledore in his duel against Voldemort... Dumbledore battled Voldemort in order to defeat him so he could bring him to the ministry as evidence of his return like he did with Grindelwald. Ages means nothing. Dumbledore is more powerful against Voldemort than he was against Grindelwald as he has more magical knowledge and is trained in the use of the elder wand that works for him.

[@ece_Scorpio99]

Grindelwald put his life on the line to make sure Voldemort never found out that you need to defeat the wands previous owner in order to have its allegiance, he did have ownership of the wand and used it to its full potential, however the wand follows after the powerful so when he lost to Dumbledore, the wand left him too. Grindelwald used occulmency to keep voldemort from reading his mind knowing Grindelwald was lying yet he would never get the truth from him, that's why Grindelwald was goading voldemort to kill him so he would never find out.

[@madguitarist63]

He never found out something much more important, you don't have to defeat them, just disarm. Had he known that, he'd of known Draco disarmed Albus making him the next owner. Snape HAD to kill Albus so Voldemort would never put together Draco as the owner but instead target Snape. Snape made the most sacrifices of anyone in that story.

[@SpireTheSlay]

Honestly you don't even need to disarm or defeat anyone. Wand lore just taking the properties of the wand tells you all you need to know. It will not serve one that fears dying. Voldemort could have killed Draco and it would change nothing in terms of who was it's master. The properties it possesses makes it fickle and seek powerful wizards that don't fear dying. This makes it perfect for Harry, Dumbledore, and Grindelwald all extremely powerful wizards that were willing to die to accomplish what from their perspectives were great things... Yet useless in the hands of those that chased it. It did not constantly seek to undermine them because they possessed the traits it valued.

[@user-uh4ub4ke3t]

He was weak,and old and gonna die any time -how was he putting it on line? Stop making out grindelwald was.a.saint he an evil murderous dark lord

[@sdaftermath123]

I feel like Voldemort was more powerful skill wise, but grindelwald had a higher IQ.

[@WrathOfBlades]

@@sdaftermath123 Voldermort was not interested in people, whether fighting them, training against them, learning from them, etc.... Never had been, never would be. Grindlewald was a leader, Voldermort was more... a nightmare. A horror that goes bump in the night. A boogeyman. Voldermort only focused on magic, Grindlewald focused on people. Grindlewald learned from others and used other people to sharpen his skills, but ultimately wasn't solely devoted to magic. Voldemort was not a peak duelist. He aimed to finish a fight as quickly and ruthlessly as possible. He wasnt interested in being a great duelist. As such, while Grindlewald was a superior duelist, Voldermort knew more about magic, dark and standard. Voldemort created unsupported flight, rudimentary body formulas to bring the dead back to life, the dark mark, several protection spells on his own horcruxses and was even commented by Dumbledore to be skilled enough that, if not for his own pride, he could have created his own Philosopher's stone in life. All in all, they had different focuses and likely, Grindlewald would win in a duel, but Voldemort would be able to kill Grindlewald without dueling, given enough time to develop a suitable spell.

[@jcfra420]

Grindelwald wasn't necessarily evil, but his actions were. He did evil things to achieve a goal he thought was noble. The rise of the magical race over muggles rather than living in fear and hiding. He probably despised Voldemort, since he was basically wiping out wizards and magical races.

[@TheSolarium18]

Voldemord did the same just even more extreme you fool

[@jcfra420]

@@TheSolarium18 No Voldemort was evil. Grindlewald would have never spilt his soul off like that for using holcruxes. He also did not take pleasure in the act of murder like Voldemort did.

[@TheSolarium18]

@@jcfra420 Bravo you were successfully manipulated by Grindelwald

[@Mikeh2077]

@@TheSolarium18 Voldemort killed muggle borns and half bloods. Grindelwald, while manipulative, wanted all wizards to prosper and not be oppressed. While he isn’t a saint, he’s a better person than Voldemort. Not much but by a shade.

[@TheSolarium18]

@@Mikeh2077 Grindelwald killed people and not only when it was inevitable , or do I have to remind you on the baby? He also wants to kill a lot of muggles just left a view to be slaves. If he felt joy or not doesn’t really matter and you think he really just wanted the best for the wizarding world? They are not as oppressed as you think they are pretty capable of living their own happy life without being molested by muggles to help them all the time with magic. What he wants is 1. Set himself on the top of everything therefore he must 2. Oppress the muggles and set wizards on top 3. kill a lot of wizards until he is on top of them He also needs to kill Dumbledore his best friend and his only problem with it is how its achieveable not how bad it is At least Voldi was a psychopath without feelings for humans and certainly he never tried to kill someone he had feelings for Grindelwald has feelings and despite this he still does all the horrible things. If you still wonder Grindelwald is based on Hitler And if you think he is the best friend of wizards He only sees himself (and maybe Dumbledore) as the pinnacle of humankind Other wizards are just viewed by him as minions of himself and muggles are just worthless The only difference between voldi and grindelwald is that voldi was born a psychopath and his path was destined whike grindelwald was born with talent charme and skills and could have used it in any way but he decided to go for power, war and terror He even could have changed a lot of things between muggles and wizards in a peaceful way if he went into politics and not abusing dark magic there is no doubt that he would have made it to the top with his incomparable charme. He had all the tools talent, charme etc but he chose to go another way And no Grindelwald is not more powerful than riddle Its Grindelwald

[@LoGicAGaming]

We need Johnny Depp back as grindelwald!! The recast doesn't look right. :(

[@juliemesser2053]

We can't have Johnny Depp back sadly, but Warner did mistreat him(with the help of Amber). So why go back to the place or people that hurt you. When you escape from your pain and be happy 😊. Plus give Mads a chance. He's taking He's own take on a character. Of course it's a little more different. 🙄

[@alexc5369]

I must be the only one the thought Depp wasn't right for the role. I think recast should have been him from the start.

[@edgardolopez500]

I like Depp, but Madds will probably be good in the role

[@Xenythx]

Facts

[@timothyringwald2193]

You right

[@larissanunes7049]

As Dumbledore always said, Voldemort's worst fear was death. I think that's why he instinctively thought that the only way he would overcome any obstacles was through killing people and destroying things... and it's no different with obtaining the elder one's loyalty.

[@jeffgoes4116]

That was his main flaw. If it wasn’t for that fear he would probably have made different and better thought choices that could have made him win the war. When it came to his own survivability, he was just blind to everything else. Grindelwald, on the other hand, didn’t seem to fear death. On one side we have a tenacious merciless killer who fears death, on the other side a super smart and talented extremist who welcomes death Hard to choose which one is more dangerous if we take their own personalities into account

[@padmanabham.suresham]

I dont want to sound like a thirsty creepy guy, but I want to pay you a compliment..... Good God! You are so beautiful. 💐💐⚘⚘ God has truely blessed you.

[@gregoryvoldish6234]

I am Voldemort

[@oyg_extendoclips517]

I am Tom Riddle

[@madisonatteberry9720]

Don't forget, the wand was a.....uh, 'gift' from Death itself, so perhaps by obtaining it, Voldermort thought he could become more powerful, or have some type of hold over, Death.

[@1DForever_IsawHarryAndNiall]

i will never forgive Steve Kloves for completely destroying of Grindelwald character in Deathly Hallows part 1 movie - never

[@bokaboka4675]

I always believed that Voldemort was very confused with the information about wands switching allegiance. He has no emotional inteligence, he cant understand the mind of wand which is very emotionaly intelligent. So i assumed he went to kill all the last owners he knew just to make sure the wand will switch its allegiance to him, he never understood that it is not about killing.

[@anirbanghosh1217]

Obviously Grindelwald was the Greater villain. Voldemort is just down right cruel, violent and sadistic, and time and again it has been proved how evil he is, the entire world knows he is evil. But that's not a real life villain. A real life villain is someone with a facade of goodness, who makes u feel that what he is doing is for the good of the ppl, or so as to say "For the Greater Good!".. Gellert Grindelwald portrayed by Jhonny Depp will always be one of my most favourite villains of all time, the other being Jim Moriarty by Andrew Scott in Sherlock

[@jebVlogs556]

Watch league of extraordinary gentlemen and you'll see how SMart,James Mortiey was 👀

[@anirbanghosh1217]

@@jebVlogs556 lol he was already so smart and extraordinary in Sherlock

[@wolfsbanealphas617]

Doesn’t that sound a lot like dumbledore

[@anirbanghosh1217]

@@wolfsbanealphas617 which one?

[@wolfsbanealphas617]

@@anirbanghosh1217 Headmaster

[@HeroShotz]

Grindelwald was the biggest threat as he had multiple countries worried about him. Ol volde just had england scared lol.

[@AppalachianAnd]

Scotland I believe

[@crapbag666]

@@AppalachianAnd no the entire uk

[@AppalachianAnd]

@@crapbag666 fair enough, so not just England

[@user-ol8ri4lb7d]

If voldemort wasn't so obessed with a teenage boy maybe he couldve achieved more

[@stuartmcnaughton1495]

" I never had it". He had the Elder Wand, but this implies that he was never the wand's True Master, which means that Gregorovitch was never it's True Master. That sort of makes sense because I never saw Gregorovitch as someone who would or could defeat a powerful wizard and take his wand by force. More revelations to come in the Fantastic Beasts series I think.

[@aditya.lakhani]

I think he lied because he was having a strong feeling of remorse. After all he did to his fellow wizards, to his ex companion Dubly. I don't know, I guess we'll soon find it out from the new Fantastic beast franchise..

[@MasterOfTheElements]

Gregorovitch could have found the wand, because after Arcus or Livius the wand is lost to history and it's next master is Gregorovitch

[@lynnerose7891]

I’m curious how it’s master is decided bc it is supposedly based on a more powerful wizard killing another wizard for it but Grindewald simply stole it and spared Grigorevich’s life. That seems unlikely if Grindewald was SUCH a remorseless killer. They also seem to show him getting it at a VERY young age making me wonder just how soon after he left Godric’s Hollow he stole it. Heck the last 3-4 “Masters” of the Elder Wand NEVER KILLED THE PREVIOUS MASTER. Considering the fact that it’s called the Death Stick, you’d think Grigorevich, Grindewald, Dumbledore and Draco would ALL HAVE TO BE DEAD for Harry to be the TRUE Master of Death.

[@stuartmcnaughton1495]

@@lynnerose7891 It transfers it's allegiance to whoever takes a wand from it's previous master by force. Most wizards think that they have to kill the previous owner because that happened to most of the Deathstick's previous masters, but Grindelwald and Dumbledore made a study of the Deathly Hallows and know that as long as force is used, then killing the previous master is unnecessary. Grindelwald stole the Elder Wand from Gregorovitch's workshop, waited for him to come and investigate the noise he had made, and then applied the required forceby means of a stunning spell.

[@LegioXXI]

But you could say that about everyone who "earned" the Elder wand from its previous owner. The wand is supposed to make you unbeatable in duel, but you could still be for example, assasinated when you sleep. Or you could be disarmed while carrying another wand (as Draco Malfoy was). And that is something Gregorovitch surely could have done, no matter how powerful the previous owner was.

[@ravenregards]

Do you think that Voldemort splitting his soul did more damage than just to his soul? Maybe his intellect and reasoning faculties were affected, too. At some point, maybe Voldemort became more like a robot of instincts one track mindedness. All he could think was "must get elder wand," "must kill Harry Potter", etc. He was no longer able to adjust his strategy.

[@foejangles]

well, he did start gathering different creatures to be on his side.

[@TheSolarium18]

Well Voldemords main motivations always were to be the most powerful being and his fear of death. Political Power was just secondary and more of a prove to him that he is the most powerful being. So I dont see a discrepancy in him making it his priority to kill the only one by himself who is publicly known to have defeated him. And it becoming an crazy obsession its pretty accurate to his character I mean he split his soul in 7 parts at one time haha And don’t forget the prophecy which he knew a part of. All of Riddles secondary goals always just arised when his primary demands were ensured

[@rb9882]

Impossible since he grew stronger by means of learning to wield more magical power. He got better and stronger seeing as how he damn near literally won until he slid on godrics hollow

[@huskiefan8950]

I really like this theory/line of thinking. It gives a possible explanation for some of voldys' mistakes, because the dude was NOT stupid, just arrogant/cruel

[@aidenthompson3265]

Splitting the soul is like taking heavy drugs. It destroys the mind

[@Waywind420]

After the fall of Albus Dumbledore, Rufus scrimager should have released Grindelwald from prison and by the imperius curse or unbreakable vow ensured he served the ministry as an enforcer, to answer Voldemort's unrivaled power. Could have had a nice Voldemort vs Grindelwald showdown even

[@arthemis1039]

Nurmengard is not under British Ministry of Magic's juridiction. You would international cooperation for this, something that is totally absent from the HP story line, and at the heart of FB.

[@MasterOfTheElements]

Grindelwald had by that time spent 53 years in prison without using a wand and he was emanciated, so if they did face each other in a fight, Grindelwald would have needed to spend some time recovering and training before facing him, and yes that showdown would have been awesome

[@informationyes]

@@MasterOfTheElements Yeah b8ut Voldemort spent many years a as an a wisp then emaciated goblin thing, hes hardly physically at the top of his game either

[@chevypurdie8294]

I always thought that after years and years of coming to terms with the evil he had done, it would be an incredible story piece if he had become remorseful enough following the death of Dumbledore that he would show up at the Battle of Hogwarts to confront Voldemort. A bit fan fiction-y, but still would have been epic

[@jewel8482]

@@informationyes actually no, even when he was " less than the meanest ghost" he still retained all his massive brainpower and knowledge. Lets see what he did after he was defeated by harry and before was fully resurrected- 1) managed to possess quirrel,escape Dumbledores notice when quirrel was at school 2) managed to break a extremely powerful memory modifying charm ,interrogate bertha and kill her 3) make a horcrux 4) design a potion that allowed him a half-body till he got his full one 5) managed to successfully implement an old Dark ritual to complete his revival

[@AlanDike]

Grindelwald was more into wand lore. He was a great wizard. Put Harry's wand in Dumbledore's hand, and he'd still be MUCH more powerful than most. It's possible that Grindelwald never actually became the wands master when he stole it... He may have been speaking the truth there. He was very powerful with it, but the wand never lent it's allegiance. When Dumbledore defeated Grindelwald, the wand may have given allegiance then... It's the type of lie that would also be truth, making it much more difficult to detect even with lilgilimancy. It's the same type of information that Snape gave Voldemort.. true, but not accurate in all cases and can be misleading, or even intended to mislead.

[@supasetleewairoj2440]

Grindelwald: "For the good of all magical kinds!" Voldemort: "MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME!!!!"

[@zeppelincraft1443]

It only makes sense Voldemort just wants immortality and power to kill off as much people as he can in his lifetime. He duped Slytherin house that he is the second coming just because it is efficient if he gains control of them. But in fact, he despises every human - muggle or wizard as long as they live.

[@sarfaraz185]

I don't understand why but Grindelwald hates muggles & still calls Voldemort by his Muggle fathers name

[@wolfeler166]

Hate doesn’t always blind someone to a good roast, that’s all I gotta say

[@larissanunes7049]

I don't think Grindewald actually hated muggles as Voldemort did. I think he saw them as inferior and hated having to be subdued by the laws that prohibited wizards to make magic and live their lives on their on terms. The idea of killing and slaving muggles was a consequence of his own rage against the system. Not that he was right, obviously, but Voldemort's reasons for being bad wore way more selfish and cruel.

[@VarjoPira]

@@larissanunes7049 Grindelwald's approach to muggles was largely the same as many humans' approach to "lesser animal species". It's not malicious, per say - just ignorant by choice.

[@larissanunes7049]

@@VarjoPira i agree

[@user-uh4ub4ke3t]

@@larissanunes7049 if you watch the start of fb3 when dumbledore and grindelwald met in the restaurant its crystal clear to all he hated muggles 'Can you smell the scent' grindelwald said looking around in utter disgust at the human owned restaurant. Also when he tortured kowalski its clear he hated muggles

[@KimsLantern]

I think Gellert could be more dangerous because of his most likely ability to love. He was charismatic enough to genuinely get other people to WILLINGLY believe in him and his cause. He was genuinely able to make people love him as well as fear him, and we all know how powerful love can be. Fantastic video!!!

[@Humzahization]

I think it would have been epic if JK had Grindelwald come at the Battle of Hogwarts.

[@ProfCuneusStern]

Consider this. What if the elder wand lies outside wand lore? What if the elder wand shows loyalty to those who possess Peverell blood? The wand may have betrayed Grindelwald because Dumbledore may be more closely related to the Peverell family than Grindelwald. If the elder wand is a family heirloom and shows more loyalty to someone who possesses more family blood, then maybe it never bonded to Voldemort because he had so very little of his soul left. In addition Harry possessed two other deathly hallows which are also inheritances from the Peverell family. This would mark him and prove to the wand that he has a stronger blood bond to the magical item and therefore the wand would obey Harry over Voldemort

[@alastorclark3492]

interesting mind candy, but not a single suggestion in the book to even create head cannon let alone legitamite canon

[@4yze]

I like the imagination, but wouldn’t it contradict the anti-blood purity message in which the books are tacitly steeped? And I suppose it also suggests that distant relatives were killing each other for the wand throughout history. Not impossible. But I don’t know how likely it is.

[@ProfCuneusStern]

@@4yze The possibility of the wand preferring a relative of the Peveralls is not a pro blood purity message. I also do not make the assumption that all possessors of the elder wand had Peverell blood. Having said that , this family did have a reputation for being powerful and talented, and so someone possessing the family blood may have an advantage in any case. Furthermore Harry did not seek out the elder wand, so he was not participating in any pro blood purity message. Salazar Slytherin may not have been the only wizard to have considered his heirs when creating a magical item.

[@4yze]

@@ProfCuneusStern I see what you’re saying. Peverall blood is not necessary, merely sufficient. I don’t know that it would make a difference in how you see my argument, but I should have been clearer that I meant blood purity when it came specifically to the Peverall bloodline - not wizardry as a whole. In your own example, you posit at the possibility of Dumbledore v Grindelwald being influenced by Dumbledore being a closer relative to the Peveralls. That is just a way of saying more purely Peverall. Take that to the extreme and you get the blood purity message that characterizes the villains in the book. It isn’t impossible. I just don’t know how likely it is. Either way, happy holidays mate.

[@maryjoyspohrer256]

That is a very interesting point! A blood bond if you will. I can see that as being quite plausible. I think that this conversation is a great indications that Rowling knows how to write a VERY intricate story that will spark much intellectual conversation!

[@gugion]

Voldemort was powerful and talented, but Grindlewald was on a whole new level. He had finesse and talent at a level Voldemort was too arrogant to ever reach.

[@penneyburgess5431]

I have been thinking about this a lot lately as my family recently rewatched the HP movies again. When the first brother received the elder wand he treated as his due. He and bragged and publicly boasted of his trickery and another killed him for it. He had no respect for death. We already know that the second brother refused to accept the death of his beloved and used the stone to reanimate her. I believe the third brother understood they had overstepped their rights when they demanded a boon from death. I believe he and his heirs used the cloak to protect mankind from men, such as his brothers. He accepted and respected death and used his gift to help mankind from death until the time Death had appointed. Personally, I believe this is what makes you master of death. Something Grindlewald grasped after losing the elder wand. If the wand chooses the wizard it makes sense that although you can win it in a duel or steal it or kill for it and even use it, the wand will always search for another true master. I am looking forward to seeing Grindlewald lose his battle with Dumbledore because the wand has already chosen Dumbledore.

[@alastorclark3492]

The lore of the deathly hollows is just a story. Heavily suggested that the artifacts in question were simpily made BY the brothers and are so powerful that they became wrapped in lore after enough time passed

[@penneyburgess5431]

@@alastorclark3492 Yes, but the story still provides the truth of the Hallows which is why, I believe, Dumbledore bequeathed it to Hermione.

[@mcfarlane1105]

Dumbledore and Grindelwald didn't have an epic Duel. Their blood pact prevents that, they were boyfriends. They had a drag-off and the baddest bitch won. It was fairy dust and elemental sparkling spells flying everywhere giving off the appearance of a duel as they sashayed hither and thither whilst hitting that vogue into a Shablam hitting that salsa dancing. Do ya'll think Dumbledore was a bottom or Grindelwald? The Depp version made me think Grindy was the bottom.

[@SirTorcharite]

@@mcfarlane1105 they were switch hitters all the way. Probably invited women and magic creatures into the bedroom too. Imagine the Mr.Hands video but with a centaur instead of just two guys and a regular horse 😳😳😳😳😳

[@crapbag666]

@@mcfarlane1105 they weren’t boyfriends 🤣 dumbledore just had feelings for him that he kept from him because he know gellert would not be interested. So they never once dated.

[@Huskytabby]

Video idea for you to do: What additional effects do spells have that are not seen in the movies? For instance, what else can the patronus charm do besides ward off dementors?

[@varuagmase804]

Grindelwald in the prison didn't allowed voldemort to read his mind isn't it interesting?

[@tomaskops7119]

He was very skillfull in this art, not even telepathically skilled Queenie can't read him

[@sauhamvyas7361]

Maybe he went to Grindelwald just to know how to win true ownership of wand or maybe to know how powerful the wand is,and what kinds of Dark magic can be produced by it

[@gregoryvoldish6234]

I know magic

[@rustydaboyrobot]

Always hated that the movies took away Grendelwald's last act "for the greater good" by goading Voldemort into killing him...and giving nothing away. Instead, the movie leaves him ALIVE and even more despicable for giving up a secret. As far as WHY...i think Voldemort wanted more information about the wand...how it changes hands, etc. He meant to kill him, certainly. But, he lost his cool and did not collect the info he desperately wanted...and the CALL of his Deatheaters pre-empted all other considerations. It ended as a WIN for the good guys. 😊

[@nexesses1548]

I am still curious why in the new trailer they said “most dangerous wizard in over a century” who was more dangerous before him that lived over a century ago? How can you be more dangerous than a man that can destroy paris in 1 spell, matched Albus dumbledore, performs self transfiguration like he is a metamorphmagus , is a highly adapt seer, can ragdoll multiple wizards without using a wand, yeet cars and bend trainrails with the flick of a wrist. How can you be more powerful than that. Most wizards can just about move a spoon in a cup of tea.

[@jawstrock2215]

Being Dangerous, is not always measure but the extend of destruction you can make, but by how easily you are ready to use it. The US have tons and tons of nukes, yet we'd consider 1 terrorist group with 1 nuke far more dangerous to the world.

[@d_randy]

To answer your question “who was more dangerous before him that lived over a century ago” I’m guessing that probably it’s Ekrizdis, the dark wizard who created the dementors. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@crapbag666]

@@d_randy nope that’s 15th century

[@abbyb3431]

Dangerous and powerful are two different things. Dumbledor also controlled what students could learn, and banned most books and discussions of advanced dark magic. Who knows what atrocities even mid tier wizards were capable of when Hogwarts first opened.

[@lv4149]

*Harry Potter so legendary that to this day, 20 years after the movies, people still make videos of it!!* *Harry Potter will remain the best most amazing and legendary series and movie ever!! 💜💜🥰🥰*

[@Luxo087]

Voldemort was probably more powerful when he had his original wand vs when he possessed the Elder Wand. Because the wand rejected him, it greatly stifled his power. Voldemort was far to obsessed with big stick go boom and wasted far too much time and energy trying to get it to work for him. In his final days, that wand was his biggest handicap. He killed Snape because he thought Snape was the wand’s master. He didn’t know Draco disarmed Dumbledore. Sure, Voldemort would’ve killed Draco and the rest of the Malfoy’s if he knew who the real master of the Elder Wand was at the time he found it. If Draco got possession of the Elder Wand instead of Voldemort after Dumbledore’s death, that would have been an extremely interesting. Voldemort’s original Yue wand of course could not kill Harry. If he was the true master of any other wand unrelated to Harry’s he would have been far deadlier. But nope I must figure out how to make full auto nuclear assault stick go pew pew. Just noting this, but when Voldemort had Lucius’ wand, the wand did not change its allegiance. Voldemort wouldn’t have been able to kill Harry regardless of what wand he used because he was dumb enough to create his new body using HARRY’S BLOOD. Big OOF for the Dark Lord.

[@joaojeffersoncavalcantiwan812]

What? Its because that blood he can touch potter in the 4th book, otherwise he would became ash like in the 1st and, maybe, in his 1st defeat. After that ritual harry is part tom and tom is part harry.

[@Luxo087]

@@joaojeffersoncavalcantiwan812 Lily’s love protection would have killed Voldemort if he fatally harmed Harry regardless. The Love protection existed in both of them. Voldemort could touch Harry, but not kill him. When Voldemort cast Avada Kedavara on Harry in the forest, all that did was kill Voldemort’s soul inside of Harry. It never affected Harry directly.

[@davidortiz3094]

​@@Luxo087 Because Harry had another life inside him. If Voldemort knew Harry was still alive, He would have struck him again. This time killing him.

[@brandonreed09]

​@@davidortiz3094 Nope. Dumbledore explained why Harry didn't die in the Kingscross Station. Voldy taking in Harry's blood bound Harry to the living world. That's why Voldy couldn't kill him. Voldy would have to die first in order for Harry Potter to be killed. It's aa real checkmate move.

[@Batnano]

Book: Toothless Movie: Not even 1 teeth missing

[@DarylReeceJames]

He went to visit Gellert Grindelwald in the hope he would join him and if Grindelwald had given Voldemort the knowledge of getting the elder wand I believe he would have recruited him... However it was Grindelwalds failure to comply which got to him.

[@kelvx]

I need to know the background music please😭😭😥

[@lazylazerrsp8781]

If they were both at their prime, Grindelwald would probably be the most powerful since being a seer he could preemptively prepare for him even before the duel was ever a thought. He probably saw him coming and carefully chose his words to ensure Voldemort killed him instead of leaving him to rot away in that cell. To Voldemort death is the ultimate punishment but I don't think he's adverse to torture before that time passes, and to a broken old man what torture hasn't he endured that Voldemort could inflict other than to just let him wallow in his own mind.

[@dannyteich9356]

Voldemort: If you don’t cooperate, I’ll kill you Grindelwald: Is that a promise?

[@BlackDragonWitheHawk]

I disagre with the statement that Voldy no Nose was a beacon of knowledge in all areas of magic. He was an ignorant, intelligent bastard who disregarded anything he himslef did not find useful asunimportant and therefore had probably more blindspots than a freshly graduated hogwarts student. Yes, he was powerful and he might even have pushed the boundries of dark magic (at least in some areas) but no, he was not the knowledgeable type with a verry broad knowledge... Combine it with his obsessions and you get a rather narrowminded person which tends to ignore/forget the most basic things.

[@fanitram]

06:45 this is why he killed Snape, cause he killed Dumbledore. Snape never had to die, if Voldemort knew this

[@HarryPotterTheory]

Yeah, not sure why I added 'probably'

[@desotojw4121]

@@HarryPotterTheory Your theory is good BUT: Voldermort never knew Draco disarmed Dumbeldore, so he incorrectly assumed he had to defeat Snape. But, as he fears death above all else, he sees it as the ultimate defeat. THAT is why he killed Snape.

[@corleydavis745]

Voldemort seeking to assert that he was the better dark lord over a old and brittle Grindelwald is the equivalent to 30 year olds picking fights with kids in COD lobbies

[@amrutap6259]

I think Grindlewald was powerful and smart than Voldemort because Grindlewald knew that he could be the true master of the Elder wand just by stealing it from Gregorovitch, not by using bloodier methods. He was not selfish like Voldemort, who only seeked for immortality and power, but wanted all the wizarding community to rule over muggles. Not to mention the stupid things Voldemort did, like taking Harry's blood to create his own body, which led to Harry being alive in the forest and making the resserection stone into a horcrux without researching anything. Grindlewald was not merciless and treated his followers kindly ( I am mentioning followers not servants as I said he was not very egoistic). Voldemort could have treated his Death Eaters the same way, just because you can't love doesn't mean you can't care a little. Also the fact that Voldemort just obsessed over the Elder Wand and was too egoistic to even learn anything about it. In the end, Grindlewald was indestructible and more cunning than Voldemort.

[@amrutap6259]

@MansaMusa No This is just my opinion. Although I do think Grindlewald is more powerful, we need to watch the next movie, The secrets of Dumbledore to confirm it.

[@desotojw4121]

You theory is good BUT: Voldermort never knew Draco disarmed Dumbeldore, so he incorrectly assumed he had to defeat Snape. But, as he fears death above all else, he sees it as the ultimate defeat. THAT is why he killed Snape.

[@alexanderfeldinger1441]

I don't get it . I think that theory of Draco owning the wand is completely wrong. To become the master of the elder wand you must either kill or win the duel ( or maybe even the owner can give it over to someone if he really really means to , that's why if the owner dies with no one to take it it losses its powers). So Draco is stronger than dumbeldore?he won the duel ? Not in the wildest of dreams Even without a wand dumbeldore is way stronger ( non wand magic ) . So Snape is the real owner there's no doubt about that , so voldemort killed Snape for the right reason, and that's why he was able to kill Harry in the forest, but thats the only time it was loyal to him because after that Harry past the love defense to all the other wizards in the hogwarts castle just like his mother and that's why only at the end the curse rebounded at voldemort killing himself , in the books Harry says himself that the last plan did not work ( the elder wand staying with snape) but he says to voldemort that it has backfired at him meaning that killing Harry in the forest was voldemorts biggest mistake.

[@kingnasim2753]

@@alexanderfeldinger1441 it’s said in the movie Draco owns the wand. you have to either kill or win a duel to own the wand, since he disarmed dumbledore, it’s his.

[@alexanderfeldinger1441]

@@kingnasim2753 disarming is not winning a duel , movie=books🤔🤔🤔?

[@alexanderfeldinger1441]

@@kingnasim2753 according to you , how did voldemort kill Harry??

[@NemesisSP]

@@alexanderfeldinger1441 Actually, it does count in the books, because it's the same explanation that Harry gave to Voldemort. It isn't about winning it in a duel, it's about winning it's allegiance through victory and a victory of disarming Dumbledore is still a victory. Thus the ownership of the wand passes to Draco and then to Harry when he forcibly takes it from Draco. He won it from a mere scuffle on the ground, which puts to notion that it has to be either a kill or a wizard duel being the only way for its ownership to win its loyalty to rest. You don't have to do either exclusively. You simply have to show you are stronger in the eyes of the of Elder Wand. Grindelwald proved that when he stole and took down Gregorovitch, Draco proved it by disarming the greatest wizard in the world and Harry did by winning a regular human tussle. That was the ultimate irony.

[@the98themperoroftheholybri33]

Basically it's the wizard version of Hitler Vs Stalin

[@forcecaptainoverlordsuprem2964]

I never liked how people suddenly forgot Voldemort was a genius.

[@newhybrid101]

"Ofcourse he was propably the most brilliant student Hogwarts has seen"-Albus Dumbledore

[@kurtcometa4818]

I think splitting souls also deteriorates your mind. I think tom becomes dumb af at the end of the story

[@abbyb3431]

His intelligence wasn't his problem, his tunnel vision was.

[@k29king1]

Voldemort never knew love. He was raised an orphan and never experienced true unconditional love. Grindelwald was a Dark Wizard, but he knew love even if it was twisted. Basically Voldemort didn’t have a conscious, Grindelwald did. And Grindelwald contained more intelligence in his left pinky than Voldemort had in his entire body. Voldemort was rage incarnate and only wanted chaos and wanton destruction. Grindelwald was a pure blood bigot that wanted Pure Blood wizards to rule the world, but he did not want to just blindly murder all muggles and half bloods, he just wanted to rule over them. Voldemort wanted complete and total destruction over all muggles, half bloods, and any “light”wizards. Voldemort was the Wizarding version of Hitler. And Hitler actually was Rowlings inspiration for Voldemort.

[@user-ol8ri4lb7d]

It's unfair to call voldemort stupid just cause he doesn't understand the concept of love or other intimate emotions.

[@koalai8240]

First :)

[@Nikstar112]

If Harry knew about Dumbledore’s duel with Grindelwald why didn’t he hide Dumbledore’s wand when he was holding it

[@NemesisSP]

Well, that's simple... it's because he *didn't know what the Elder Wand was nor that that was it*. The duel between Dumbledore and Grindelwald were common knowledge, but not that the latter had the Elder Wand.

[@AnnaBellaChannel]

He was killed by Voldemort whilst he was in Azkaban because he refused to be helpful to Voldemort in his search for the Elder Wand. “Kill me, then. Voldemort, I welcome death! But my death will not bring you what you seek ... There is so much you do not understand ... Kill me, then! You will not win, you cannot win! That wand will never, ever be yours-" -- Gellert Grindelwald's last words, The Deathly Hallows

[@shotszvgaming6974]

If only they knew of the movies to come back then, it would’ve been cool to see Grindelwald to have used some kind of wand less magic on Voldemort before he died.

[@paulyb7267]

Hey @HarryPotterTheory, how did the death eaters and their supporters react to an infant Harry Potter being responsible for Voldemort's defeat and disappearance?

[@huskiefan8950]

🤣😂🤣 hey guys, after being defeated by a baby, I am back....(which was only possible with your help).....now cower in fear of me!!!!! -Voldy, to the death eaters-

[@akmoris]

Wand Lore and his inability to love were WERE his Achilles HEALS.

[@raghavparanjpe9556]

Anyways if one of the motives for voldy was to humiliate grindelwald to show him who the true dark lord is... he failed miserably... too miserably... who was he kidding, thats grindelwald innit... he had power and no. Of followers voldy nvr even dreamed of... after all dumbledore himself had to duel him.... on the other hand... dumbledore didnt even fully destroy all horcruxes... he didnt even need to use half the power he needed for grindelwald!!! Tom riddle had his limitations not being able to understand power of love n all!! Well and he was foolish ofc🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@raghavparanjpe9556]

@MansaMusa yeah but thats in sheer power... if they would have been in competition as to who can rule greatest grindelwald would have won... v9ldemort was foolish since he focused his target on one boy due to his own ego... he was defeated by an 18 year old despite performing the rarest dark magic which only herpo the foul could... whereas grindelwald couldnt be defeated by a 18 yr old but the only 1 wiz who could defeat him possibly.... u c voldys foolishness made him vulnerable and thats y weak!!!

[@dhaonrisemlan]

Genuinely forgot to subscribe.

[@rhetiq9989]

Knowing Voldemort's grim grasp at how the world works, and should work in his views, he probably thought that killing people was the most sensible means of gaining complete ownership of the elder wand. It's just another excuse for him to go about Avada-ing people

[@vmvigilante4987]

Voldemort's purpose was to live forever. You needed to kill in order to make a Horcrux. He assumed killing was needed to establish ownership over the most powerful wand in the world. Death was all he could think about.

[@justaguy214]

Voldemort is more powerful but Grindelwald was a better duelist.

[@MasterOfTheElements]

or voldemort was dumber, grindelwald was smarter

[@vm141789]

Grindelwald was an excellent duelist. You should’ve seen him at the Yu-Gi-Oh tournament. He was amazing.

[@MasterOfTheElements]

@MansaMusa yet he ignored many important aspects of magic because he was too arrogant to learn about them, and the only area in which Voldemort excels is the dark arts that's it, whereas Grindelwald is also very knowledgeable about other fields of magic not just dark magic. He's like the dark version of dumbledore in terms of knowledge. But Voldemort's main flaw was that he was too ignorant and it caused his death, he may have been more powerful though I personally doubt it but he was far less intelligent than both Dumbledore and Grindelwald combined

[@tiltedt2398]

People use wands that aren't there's all the time, but Voldemort tried to use the elder wand against it's true owner (harry) which makes sense why it rebelled so hard. Guess we won't know for sure until Dumbledore fights grinder and we see how he gets the wand.

[@klatchabobby]

It makes sense that Voldemort would think Grindelwald still had the wand if he actually believed a wizard had to die to lose possession of it, which he does believe,

[@MtnDewWarrior]

He still had it in prison? Makes no sense

[@tomaskops7119]

More sense is that he believed that death is need to pass Elder wand. It was Dumbledore and Grindellwald reseach which show that defeat is enough

[@NightShroud745]

Beacuse he was a close friend with him :)

[@error-4269]

Mhhh definitely

[@koppadasao]

Sauron is the most powerful Dark Lord

[@PauloAnnunaki]

Laughs in Melkor

[@anthonyhargis6855]

This is not surprising. Voldemort went through life wearing blinders. If it wasn't important to Voldemort, then it just wasn't important. Voldemort, perhaps, had "brute power," but nothing more. He did not have the necessary knowledge to actually "rule supreme." Muggle, or Wizard . . . knowledge is power. And Voldemort did not value knowledge. Voldemort could never defeat Dumbledore and he could never have defeated Grindelwald either. Both were sufficiently power and both were superior in knowledge to Voldemort. A truth that Voldemort could never have comprehended, much less appreciated.

[@Jayrocky]

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[@bootyscratcher8959]

Voldemort is childish villain i prefer Grindelwald

[@maxwell4322]

Not sure that's surprising. Most ppl don't go into wand lore. Probably because whatever wand you end up with is sufficient for the individuals need. It's not until u start getting into the very talented wizards and extremely complicated situations do wands seem to play a bigger role. I mean if the elder wand doesn't exist then most ppl wouldn't have a need to have more than just the one wand. And it's probably looked upon as a Skilled trade but not super essential knowledge.

[@Oscar92839]

Did he get killed in the books

[@raulbuster3152]

Voldemort and Grindelwald are not different in theory than Magneto and Apocalypse in the xmen. one seeks dominance over the humankind the other exterminium of the humankind

[@BrianHSC]

I think it's ridiculous that you can simply disarm the opponent to claim the most powerful wand. Based on what happened to Draco, you don't even have to hold the Elder wand when being disarmed? That means you can leave your elder wand at home and some thug punches you and knocks you out, the thug is the master? No, it should've been that you truly have to kill the opponent to claim the wand. That's what Death would've done. That's why Gregorovitch and everyone thereafter was never its true owner. Explains why Grindlewald lost with Elder wand and why Dumbledore lost with Elder wand.

[@davidaltman3867]

draco didnt get punched ! harry disarmed him at malfoy manor and took control of his wand that he had and by proxey the elder wand.

[@LegioXXI]

But this leaves the plot hole of Harry being the Elder wands master at the end. Because in order for him to claim ownership of the Elder wand, he had to get the ownership from Draco, who had to get in from Dumbledore. Also: Dumbledore didn't "lose with the Elder wand", he was mentally and physicall weak (almost dead) when he came back from the sea with Harry. No matter how powerful a wand is, you still need to have at least a very bit of physical strength to utilize it. Its the same way how the Wand is passed to new owners in the history too, most of the time the previous owners are killed in their sleep or on other situations where they were not combat ready. Thats why the Elder wand changed ownership so many times, without actually "losing" in a duel. So its totally plausible that Gregorovitch got the wand, since he dosen't really need to overpower any previous owner. All he needed to do was to disarm the previous owner when he is not carrying the wand or or murder him in his sleep.

[@BrianHSC]

@@davidaltman3867 I didn't say Draco got punched did I? Read again.

[@BrianHSC]

@@LegioXXI Why does Harry have to be the master of Elder wand at the end? What plot hole will it introduce if NOBODY was the master of Elder wand? On the other hand, if Harry was the master, Voldemort beat him in the forest didn't he? That actually leads to plot hole. And I know Dumbledore didn't "lose" but he didn't "win" either. I'm saying Elder Wand dind't provide any special power to anyone in entire series.

[@crapbag666]

Draco disarmed dumbledore unexpectedly when dumbledore had it planned for snape to kill him. So it was an accident that the allegiance changed. Dumbledore planned for the elder wand to die so he got caught off guard by Draco. Then Draco and harry got into a duel and harry disarmed him for his wand and the elder wand knew.

[@donovandelaney3171]

Voldemort kills him in the book. Not the movie.

[@alastorclark3492]

both?

[@loremaster8475]

Snape could of been a more powerful wizard. he knew dark and light magic and he knew love!

[@chaunceykavanagh6621]

Voldemort wanted to kill everyone who might have the Elder wands Loyalty…But Grindelwald was NO match for Voldemort.

[@maneeshmahaseth5275]

He visited grindelwald cuz he believed the powers of wand can only be transferred by murdering its previous owner. As Dumbledore didn't kill grindelwald, voldemort went there to kill him and thought he was now it's true master and then only stole it bfrom Dumbledore's grave. This is the exact reason why he kills snape (wand not working properly for some reason which he thinks maybe Dumbledore had it for so long, Dumbledore became its owner over time and as snape killed Dumbledore he needs to kill snape.) He never truly understood th wand's power and it's passing.

[@Vakaria-plays]

I think there was several things going on behind the curtain so to speak, i think Tom killed Grindelwald was the fact that Grindelwald was either just as powerful or potentially more powerful than Dumbledore, Dumbledore after all stated that he likes to think that he was maybe a little bit more skillful than Grindelwald, but he could not be certain of it, and Grindelwald had no problems using dark magic, hence he could become a new dumbledore threat only with access to the dark arts, so Voldemort just like everything else he did, out of fear. Killed him before given him a chance to rise up against him, i also think that Dumbledore still visited Grindelwald and discussed matters with his old friend and lover. Grindelwald had no reason to wanting to aid Tom, but he had reason to prevent Tom from controlling the world, after all, despite his failure, Grindelwald, wanted to create a new world order, but his vision was different from Toms, and Toms vision was not something Grindelwald approved nor wanted to take place, plus he might still have had feelings for Dumbledore and wanted to aid him in his fight. Another reason i think Tom killed him was when he saw how despite being so frail and weak, Grindelwald locked eyes with Voldemort, smiling, laughing and even mocking him, even having the nerve to tell him that Voldemort despite all of his power, all of his deeds, still knew nothing of the world, nor of what was to come. Im thinking that As Tom experienced all of this, he began to truly fear what would happen if Grindelwald was freed and was allowed to regain his strength and allowed a wand into his hand then Voldemort would have a far greater rival than anyone he had ever imagined, plus Grindelwald just might announce to the world that the elder wand was real and that Tom held it, but was not its true master, thus could be defeated, which would tempt Voldemorts own followers to maybe try and kill him. I also think that Grindelwald had either had a vision or he simply through Dumbledores information knew what would happen in the end and so was happy to be the fatal part of the trap for Voldemorts defeat to set him upon that path, Grindelwald knew so many things, and Voldemort knew that he stood before a wizard that despite his poor condition held knowledge that he would never discover, and again killed him before it could be used against him.

[@jeremygonzalez2230]

I buy a new computer and start a new account each time I watch your videos to make sure I stay off the radar. Subscribing is how 'they' get you.

[@publiclyapplied394]

He also didn’t know Harry was a hocroax either. He also didn’t know the full prophecy. So he failed to get all the information on different important matters before acting on them.

[@nielubieinceli]

"Borrowed" from Lucius 😂 Yeah, that is a good word xD

[@adz260689]

Grindelwald wasn't evil. He was idealistic and ambitious. There was no evil to be had, just ambition. Voldemort was equally ambitious but evil, he took pleasure in killing. Both ambitious men with opposing ideology on how to bring the wizarding world out of hidding.

[@greenday1guitarfreak]

How did Grindelwald know the wand will never be Voldermort's. Also, why did it take Voldermort so long to track him after recognizing the thief, it was common knowledge that he's rotting in Neumengard. ARGH.

[@Woter_X]

Can someone explain how magic and Wands work? Iv seen people use magic without wands so why use them? Also does using magic cost some kind of energy to cast? Or can you just keep spamming it endlessly with no draw back.

[@baneblackguard584]

i have another theory: Tom Riddle was never very smart, or powerful. He operated purely on his own belief that he was, and by terrorizing others into believing the same. It was a delusion, a flight of fancy, just like they Deathly Hallows. THE Elder Wand, wasn't. It was AN Elder Wand. THE invisibility cloak, wasn't. It was just AN invisibility cloak. useful magical items, yes. but the power was an illusion, they weren't all-powerful unique items. Anyone can have elder wand, the difference was whether they BELIEVED it was THE elder wand, which never actually existed. just part of a flight of fancy, a story, created to feed the ego of those that sought power. This was Tom Riddles greatest failing, the failing Dumbledore tried to warn him about, having learned it at great cost to himself... Power is an illusion. It's a delusion. A self defeating obsession that is almost impossible to overcome. The Deathly Hallows is a story, they never actually existed. The story of the Deathly Hallows wasn't a story about the origin of all-powerful items, it was a story about 2 brothers that sought power, and 1 brother that saw the folly of it.

[@Tommybgoode]

Inaccuracy: "Voldemort didn't just want any old want", actually he did, he first borrows Lucius' wand and finds out that it is still beaten by Harry's. Only then does he seek out the elder wand.

[@tonybleau6219]

Voldemort doesn't actually care about pure-bloods. It's a veil to gain power and powerful followers like Malfoy and Lestrange. He's only after immortality and power. He's actually a pretty lame villain even if he's crazy powerful and evil. I like Grindelwald as a villain much better and take him far more seriously.

[@roman27og]

I still think as far as offensive capabilities are concerned a prime Grindelwald would dog walk Voldemort 🤷🏻‍♂️💯

[@pioxaviour2]

What I like about the harry potter series is how voldy f***s himself up so badly because of his ego. When he returned he could have just easily started where he stopped and could become the a most powerful wizard following the dumbledore’s death and rule the world with iron fist as he wanted. But no… he was way too obsessed killing a school boy just because he couldn’t kill him the first time. So he makes his body from the boy’s blood making the boy indestructible by his wand. Goes on a rampage to secure an old ass wand while his precious horcroxies are getting posrched, and finally making his own followers fed up with him by unnecessary killings, tortures and insults. Finally he is going to demolish the one school all the wizards love dearly just to find a school boy. Not a very smart move for a such a powerful wizard if you ask me. I’m pretty sure most of his followers were fedup at the end when they saw what he did to to the school that genarations of them attended He could have easily order them be of his followers to kill harry if he ever comes closer to him. Instead he lets himself be Harry’s bitch with his own stupid actions. Props to JKR for a wonderfully written masterpiece.

[@TheFightfirewithbaco]

Stupid question alert!!! If the Elder Wand didn’t make you invincible in a duel, as shown by Grindelwald’s defeat at the hands of Dumbledore, why was Voldemort so keen on attaining it?

[@HunterKost]

Just ask JK Rowling if Voldemort was gay for Grindelwald. She always caves under pressure. Hell he might just be Trans.

[@niaselah3348]

Grindelwald knew love. That's the big difference Voldemort never did. He comes from "families" without love from both sides. His parent's union was forced, not love. His mother loved his father but this love only manifested when she stopped giving him the love potion or whatever she used on him. Voldemort was the result of lack of love and coercion. His mother had such a miserable existence that she wasn't able to fight to stay alive for her son. Big contrast with Harry with whom Voldemort himself identifies. Harry's parents both come from loving families ( lily's muggle family were even proud of having a witch in the family, they celebrated her being different. That's health and love. The Potter's were basically the Weasley's for Sirius) and Harry is the product not only of his parent's love but of all the love that made them. I don't know much about Grindelwald's origins but it's clear to me he loved Dumbledore as much as he was able to love. I think the books show very well the difference between the presence and absence of love on people and how it truly is the most powerful magic, how it can make or change the course of life including generations

[@mikeseibert4889]

I don't like in the HP DH2 movie they have Grindelwald tell Voldemort where the Elder Wand is. I like the book version cause he does not betray Dumbledore even after all them years in the movie it's almost like Grindelwald is getting Dumbledore back.

[@smokinlouie9885]

Tina Goldstien is the owner of the Elder Wand.

[@LordTyranos]

Voldemort ultimately was defeated by hubris. He thought power and fear were all he needed.

[@EducatedGuess]

The movie doesn’t make sense. Voldemort is under the assumption that the Master of the elder wand must be killed in order to transfer allegiance to the killer. However, Voldemort doesn’t kill Grindelwald in the movie. The flaw in this is that how can Dumbledore control the elder wand if Grindelwald (former Master) is alive? If Dumbledore isn’t the master, how can Voldemort be the Master? It’s much cleaner in the book - it’s obvious that one only be disarmed if you see that Grindelwald is alive and Dumbledore controls the elder wand. Voldemort is an idiot.

[@hakim6933]

Voldemort had no real idealogy. He's a child lashing out the world. He could have learned from the failures of dark wizards and adapted his strategy to take down the Muggle World first via mind control and magic. Then turn Muggle kind against Mages. It's easier to use hatred to convince people than utilizing fear to command subservience.

[@Whatisright]

It is interesting that understanding of Wands is limited to those who sell them. How does magic advance if no one is actually studying it? The simple rules of dueling and ownership should be a First Year lesson. Hell, the wands should come with an owners manual of how it works. Makes you question what any of those schools actually teach.

[@isaacnotissac1905]

I'm surprised Harry didn't AvadaKedavra Bellatrix right after killing sirius

[@stormcranford9008]

Voldemort wanted a new wand because his wand COULDN'T defeat Harry

[@jasonenergyseeker8120]

I don't think the wand had anything to do with the visit. I think he questioned Grindelwald about it because he liked knowing as much as he could, remember at hogwarts as tom riddle he was always reading and experimenting because he had to know everything about everything. But at the time he visited Grindelwald he needed followers, loyal and powerful that believed in his dreams, he didn't know if he could totally trust Snape, Lucius was letting him down and Bellatrix was a loose cannon. Grindelwald had a similar vision and his name was still linked to power and fear that only dumbledore was able to break. I think he wanted to test Grindelwald to gain a follower and hadn't considered Grindelwald could have changed that much he was remorseful to the point of potentially being the next dumbledore who would stand in Voldemorts way

[@VulpesChama]

Grindelwald. Vodlemort is a child in comparison. His ambitions are small-minded and simple. He's also very naive in all his knowledge. His perception of the world is a very simple perception of might, of raw power, gives right. He rages, when it doesn't go his way. He's a very stereotypical evil, but even if he had won, he wouldn't have lasted long at the top. He knew to destroy, to fight, to take over, but he has no idea how to rule. His rule would have been chaotic and in time, sooner or later, he would have fallen either to his lieutenants or to an uprising.

[@ambientsoda106]

Voldemort was half Muggle, it doesn't make sense that he despised them so...he would have had Muggle friends in the Orphanage he was raised in, and I think he was Dumblesdores greatest mistake...

[@smithyjordan9918]

Wow so much work when its much simpler, voldemorte beleived that to defeat an enemy means one must kill them, because its the only way to guarantee they cannot come back at you. Thus in his mind the most powerful wand in existence, the wand once known as the death stick, would only show allegiance to the killer of its last master

[@MidKnightOTC]

Honestly i would've fought for Grindlwald before I'd fight for Voldemort. He was far more powerful, and his end goal was noble and made sense.

[@unholyspire2530]

I thought the wand couldn't be stolen? So tech no the wand was never grindenwalds since it probably never obeyed him, which is probably how Dumbledore defeated him

[@jamesswindley9599]

Why was it easy for Voldemort to get in? 🤣 surely, Grindelwald could have just walked out 😂😂

[@jwilliamsdrums]

Facts bro nice! Yeah Voldemort flunked out of Wandology 😂 like bad!