The Real Reason Why American Chopper Ended: Family Problems & Legal Battles

[@r.williamcomm7693]

The chopper culture died out as corporate bikes used for exhibits at trade shows became featured over bikes meant to be ridden. Look at the huge shop that was built, it was unsustainable.

[@zeropoint546]

Those unrideable shitheaps should never have been popular.

[@r.williamcomm7693]

@@zeropoint546 Agree. It blows my mind that so many sought bikes like that. I’ll never forget seeing a traffic jam of bikes coming into the city years ago in Daytona. ALL of the choppers were overheated. Guys pushing their choppers. Every time I rode one belonging to a friend it felt uncomfortable & they confessed that they couldn’t take road trips on them due to comfort, that they didn’t handle well & were good only for being seen on short rides. Each to his own but I needed bikes capable of multi state trips from the coast to the mountains where we’d meet up & then ride hard. Of course Daytona bike week started with the motorcycle races at the track. Bike race fans who appreciated bikes that could travel & race started it. I also love Harleys because they too can be comfortable on trips & handle well for what they are. It’s amazing to see some of the prices on these choppers today. There’s no market that I can tell. One guy has a video talking about buying an OCC for $8k. Of course as driving in the us gets even worse there’s fewer places where it’s safe to ride any motorcycles on the street & that’s really sad. Merry Christmas, happy new year & ride safe in 2023! 👍

[@CONEHEADDK]

@@r.williamcomm7693 99% of people don't have a clue. They know a bit more than the next guy, so they think, they know everything, and chose things by hyeart instead of mind. I bet close to none of those over heaters ever thought of heat, before they chose a bike. Like when a teenage girl chooses to become a nurse or a vet, bcz they expect to cudl kids and polar bear cubs all day, and end up shoveling poop and wiping grannies' azzez most of the time instead.. I sure didn't know, that when I put clip ons on my Honda 400/4 100 years ago, that I would get sore thumbs from hanging on them 95% of the time when riding city, and had to go 130 kph+ before the wind took the weight off them.. :D

[@johnfarnsworth8366]

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[@jefffromjersey52]

@@r.williamcomm7693 Everything you say seems to be 100% on point, but especially for me why would someone pay $75K + for a Custom Chopper, as a FIRST Chopper, if you can find a nice Used one, with very little miles for under $10 K , and especially because as you said they were only driven short distances on nice days.. they are all garaged & taken care of, and many are almost NEW .. there is NO market for New Choppers , it has completely dried up ..

[@rickerhart907]

Money, success, a healthy family, and that still isn't enough to find happiness and peace. Sad

[@sweez_136]

Mikey was the real mvp trying to keep them together, Jr had great designs, n Sr couldn't let go of his ego..

[@paulelliott3739]

I don’t feel sorry for Paul Sr. He had everything, family, successful business, huge home, new wife. He lost it all when he decided to mortgage is bike shop, to sue Paul Jr. for Junior’s 20% of Orange Country Choppers. Paul Sr. lost in court. Was unable to create the awesome choppers Paul Jr. designed. He alienated his family, got divorced from his new wife, his prized Mastiff dog died and he was forced to sell his $2.5 million dollar home for $1.6 million dollars. Orange County Choppers in Orange country New York went bankrupt, because Paul Sr. blamed all his problems on his son’s Mikey and Paul Jr.

[@pharkasj]

He was just stupid. Chumlee was not even the main character in their show, but he's still fine financially.

[@TheCameraNever]

Did he go back to WWE and boning his friends wife?

[@miroslavtordaji1675]

@@pharkasj Chumlee was in Pawn stars....and he got his own problems

[@CONEHEADDK]

Most peeps who's never been poor, don't have a clue about money. I've "never" been anything else, and I used to be the guy, who never went broke, while "all" the working guys "allways" were sobbing about money.. "Just" by changing the mind from "Would I like this", to "do I need this" is so simple, and soooo effective.. Fun fact . you very very rarely NEED anything, you can get "for free", or at least very very cheap...

[@wexjap]

Wife lived money and not him! Typical gold digger.

[@yearight5303]

The fight where Jr was fired was instigated by the producers of the TV show. Jr came in late and the producer ran in and told Sr. and got him fired up. That probably happened a lot.

[@robertroy92]

The moral of the story: never open a business with a family member or your best friend.

[@mauromarchese1313]

Proprio così..👍

[@ihcstaH]

These are hundred thousands of family businesses around the world that have been running without any problems for hundreds of years.....

[@midnightblue1874]

I thought it is more like never hire family member or your best friend...

[@tonypeters188]

sag ich seit Jahren , dein Chef darf nicht dein Freund sein 👊

[@ratkomilutinovic829]

Naaa i dont think soo.

[@DavidVanHelden1]

I thought it ended because everybody found out the bikes were pieces of junk that a person could not ride for more than 5 miles...

[@fposmith]

Rule #1, Never buy one of these bikes used ! POS !

[@flintymcduff5417]

Most, if not all, didn't even have instumentation. Show pieces only.

[@pegcity4eva]

Bikes and beards definitely found this out

[@Axter6]

I always thought those bikes were more like showpieces and not for actual riding.

[@nealepitts3321]

Used to watch this and couldnt believe so many people were so stupid to part with their money for scrap !

[@JakubChalupnik]

The drama was the reason I stopped watching the show. It was tolerable for some time, but I got so annoyed that I didn't even bother to tune in.

[@rockethead7]

5:20 Actually, if memory serves, Paul Jr. was obligated by a non-compete agreement not to design/build motorcycles for a certain period of time. As soon as that timeframe ended, he went back to motorcycles, which was always his intent. The other non-motorcycle stuff he worked on during that non-compete period was just to tie him over. (Again, if I recall correctly.)

[@beyondcitylimits]

That's how I remember it. He helped his mrs with her business to fill in time

[@pinksparkle4962]

He was not allowed to build a bike for a year.

[@robfromdownunder9894]

"If i wasn't involved, the place would burn to the ground, it'd burn to the ground." Paul Jr.

[@burningkarma]

And it did!

[@acedrumminman]

I went to Orange County Choppers a few years ago...what looks like something cool on TV doesn't translate in person...the bikes are poorly made, welded together with little craftsmanship and their geometry is just terrible...Paul senior rode up on one while I was there and he could barely turn it around in a parking lot the size of a football field....don't every buy one, they're a death trap.

[@AcmeRacing]

I always thought it was fun and creative, but they're works of art rather than practical vehicles. I'll look at the OCC theme bikes in the museum and happily ride my well-engineered Honda Shadow ACE instead.

[@filanfyretracker]

@@AcmeRacing I think that has long been a case of choppers, kind of like rat rods in the car world. They look awesome, they sound cool and they look great parading around at shows. But neither is made for actually driving to be driven as a mode of transportation.

[@carlozabbia1157]

Best of luck to all involved, from a 73 year-old fan.

[@therealestbadman]

As a youth, you respect your father no matter what. As a father, your offspring and their success is the most important thing ever. Non of these rules where lived by.

[@wilfisk731]

There are a billion awful fathers (and mothers) out there who deserve absolutely no respect. When you are a loud mouthed alcoholic bully who constantly tells his kids to go fuck themselves, don't be shocked when they return the favor.

[@kalypso4133]

You EARN respect. Stop propagating the narrative that you have to have inherent respect for people that treat you like shit.

[@tomdavis3038]

They didn’t “build” much. Other than the fenders and gas tank it was all mail order stock stuff. Anyone can do that really. Besides the things were unridable and a fad Cheers

[@biggkoz]

Totally agree. When I first watched it was confused on how they made so much money for having other people make everything and then they just put it together.

[@flintymcduff5417]

Believe on the great God Balonomia and his name live forever in the paradise of Arazmataz!

[@adv5684]

@Seek Him with all your heart and you will find Him pppffffff

[@xeexuxpb4391]

they just add some steel and cosmetic and paint, frame and engine are always ordered.

[@notyourtypicalchad6778]

Had friends who met the Teutul's at an event over a decade ago. Paul Sr. was genuinely the NICEST one in the bunch and loved talking with the fans including posing for pictures. Paul Jr. seemed to be annoyed to have to be there and Mikey was straight up rude to fans unless they were throwing money at him for OCC merch or paying for his autograph. A lot of the drama on their show was staged and instigated by the show's producers with a pre-exhisting volatile family dynamic that was easy to exploit. Ambition, ego, money, and fame really took its toll on this family. I hope they are doing well today. No point on hating on people or hitting them when they are down.

[@mattmcnamee126]

My uncle lives in up state ny a county away from orange county. And he told a bunch of stories years ago about mikey being a jerk to people and just around dick, like he thought he was better then everyone else

[@stephenx2857]

except for you know. shitting on two people with a vague "a friend of mine says these two guys were awful"

[@rapsack7058]

" Paul Sr. was genuinely the NICEST one in the bunch and loved talking with the fans including posing for pictures." this says nothing about how some one behaves, when challenged, when be into a confrontational situation. There are many people who have 2 sides. And such a person can be the living hell for a son. He is way to dominant to give the son real space to grow up and become their own persons.

[@iHaveTheDocuments]

Producer's definitely manufacture content but SR isn't a nice guy. I grew up in orange county, lived there for 30 years. My dad knew Sr back in the day, and yeah he's an asshole overall. My dad didn't even know about how he acted on the show, just real world experience.

[@dh6565]

Lol,i had the exact opposite Impression when meeting them yrs ago

[@opoxious1592]

Well, Paul senior can complain about junior showing up late for work. But Paul junior was the one who kept the company getting bigger and bigger. Mikey is the one Senior should complain about. Taking a nap while being at work, while everybody is working theire butts off.

[@shinya1215]

I don't know dude, I think the reason they go bigger is because the good time before financial crisis and people willing to pay for useless shit as if every company needed one theme bike parked in their lobby. I did enjoy those shows before 08-09, OCC, chop shop, pimp my ride but tbh OCC work is 90% of put-together plus 10% of decoration here and there. They just did tank, handle bar, fenders and pipes (and most of the time their work is just so-so) then ask for crazy among of money, that for sure gonna suffer when people have to spend they money wisely after financial crisis.

[@julieshean612]

Jr also stayed late so made up time

[@rapsack7058]

This coming late was kind of a rebellion against a way to dominant father. It was a sign, that the relationship between the sons and the way to controling and dominant father was deeple disturbed. And the other son also had a very troubled relationship with the senior. The older son rebelled and was seeking the conflict and the youner one avoided it was very submissive. For none of both he was a good father figure.

[@yaros3750]

Sad, but true, in 2008 when i first time came to USA from Ukraine, all I was dreaming about is to meet with those guys and guess what? when we came to the new store/shop that still was under construction, but supposed to be open in a couple of days, I met Junior right in front of the main door. It’s been 11 years since I moved to USA and I never had a chance to visit that place again. Hope they will be back to life and OCC will continue to make people a bit happier..

[@ericballi4701]

I really loved watching that show. but, for me, Paul Jr. was the star of the show and constantly seeing Sr. berate and verbally abuse him got tiring. I felt bad for them, especially Jr. and Mikey.

[@fanmaxis3004]

My dog farted in the bath

[@alexwade8040]

@@fanmaxis3004 bro same

[@clarknawrocki9718]

I don't want to see people go out of business but this couldn't have happened to a nicer guy

[@freakshowkena]

Man I miss shows like occ, it was definitely my fav show growing up, as a 12 year old I was convinced that I also could build a chopper after watching it xD

[@Freedomspeech269]

The show continued in 2017 for 2 more seasons. Paul Sr. and Paul Jr. got along WAYYYY better. They actually did projects together.

[@theheavymetalhillbilly7152]

Wow. A reality show that rips a family apart...imagine my shock. I wonder if in hindsight, they can look back and think it was worth ruining a father/son relationship.

[@joenickel2371]

4 of the top ten rules of business; 1 Don't start a family business, 2 Don't work for family, 3 Don't hire family members, 4 Don't buy from family businesses. Expectations of family members always clash.

[@Abb0able]

I don't agree, lot's of businesses are family businesses look at farming. But the problem here was that the growth came from TV not from craftmanship or build/ride quality so when the TV went so did the customers.

[@joenickel2371]

@@Abb0able No, you look at farming! Soon we will all be starving because of failed family farms. What a terrible anal-agy, you really stepped in it!!

[@michaeldavis2585]

The bikes are junk

[@evodgamehunter4290]

So basically a Harley is what you are saying

[@flintymcduff5417]

@@evodgamehunter4290 hardly a Harley but ghen your reading comprehension would have to actually develop.

[@evodgamehunter4290]

@@flintymcduff5417 is it as good as your writing? Yeah, sit down little guy.

[@cocosloan3748]

Rick Petko was the real star and the main designer and worker ! Justice for Rick Petko !!! 🤣

[@MK-1010]

I remember Rick talking about his 4 hour drive from home. (8 hours round trip!) After 10 at the shop.... Insanity! He did wind up leaving, and got a really good position at a Harley Davidson shop near him in Pennsylvania. Vinnie started his own repair shop (don't remember anything about customs) in the OC area.

[@cocosloan3748]

@@MK-1010 He was the only one in the shop that didnt make total idiot of himself ! Good for him - he deserves it !

[@geoffk43]

I used to watch the show out of interest to see how the builds went. As the show and the drama went on, I lost interest. If there is ever another iteration of the Teutuls, I won't see it.

[@mikecartlidge5355]

Yes way too much drama and horseshit.

[@stankobm7280]

@@mikecartlidge5355 Dobar ispravan komentar. Stvar je bila samo ....prosječna.

[@mikecartlidge5355]

As a motorcycle mechanic of 48 years I have restored bikes and built customs, now I know O C are on a stop watch for the show but I have seen lots of things missed on a dry build....ie parts that needed welding or machining, so then they start in on painted or chromed components.

[@desertwhaler]

"People came for the bikes, and stayed for the drama", a quote that's completely wrong from my perspective lol. Couldnt stand the drama. Loved the bike building!

[@davefoc]

Choppers had run their course, they had run their course. Not much of a mystery why it ended. It feels like the show went on past its sell by date to me.

[@michaelsmiley15]

The last episode of the show demonstrated what was wrong with the show from the beginning because initially Paulie had a client lined up and that didn't work out so then senior stepped up but they were supposed to design the bike together and everything Paul did on that bike senior got rid of He didn't care what Paulie did it was about him he controlled the entire thing and the only reason why senior did it was he got paid a large sum of money to help him get out of the bankruptcy issues he was facing That bike was stupid somthing out of the 60s nothing custom about it same old same old

[@oinc7320]

Well Jr was supposed to be the designer, but "Pauline" had his "drawer", who really took over the designing, with joy. Basically Jr could not use a computer to draw his design, daddy replaced him.

[@jamesbrouse9257]

Sean and Paul Sr. together would be must watch. I hope it happens!

[@stephaniemanchester-chermo3840]

This family has some serious issues that transcend motorcycles and business.

[@michaelwdagle7410]

Building underpowered expensive choppers isn't a very good business model.

[@JB-yb4wn]

Especially when you run out of suckers.

[@eugeneponcelet9377]

I went to their place in 2012 . It was a class act place. Bought a lot of stuff and it was very well run. I really enjoyed it. They had a bar and grill there and a very big merchandise shop. Also on display was a lot of show bikes that they built. It was a class A place. I'm sorry that it closed. At least that is what was in the comments.

[@davidbarbour9929]

I liked it better when the show first started and they were working out of the old shop, seemed to be more creative and the employees and Paulie were tight knit.

[@MetismanInBC]

I watched the show for the first years, but quickly tired of the shitshow that it devolved into. It's too bad that they had to display such poor behavior for the whole world to cringe to.

[@toddprater14]

Yep. First 2seasons were the best, small building next to steel co.and then the bigger building attached to that brick building (the one where senior jumped his h2 in the snow)..after that , the producers capitalized on their arguments and made every show about that..and it got tiring….probably woulda lasted better if after 2nd season they told discovery to pound sand and filmed it theirselves..producers always screw up a good thing .

[@cricketd2932]

Paul Jr was the best part of OCC

[@burningkarma]

Rick and Vinnie too. Those guys were awesome. No BS guys that wanted to just get the job done.

[@saussierlaurier6397]

i still take any japanese bike instead for these shooooooooooper 😀

[@coolvideos8864]

Without the TV money and Paul Sr`s terrible running of the business and the end was inevitable.

[@monkeydust100]

They just made shit bikes

[@coolvideos8864]

@@monkeydust100 agreed,

[@michaelsmiley15]

That is incorrect Pauie had a non complete clause in his contract when he was fired from OCC so he couldn't go get a job at a custom bike shop for at least a year and he intended to do his own business from day one it was just a matter of what product could he design to get his foot in the door Coleman gave him a shot and he developed a halfway decent grill too expensive but it was decent

[@flintymcduff5417]

I remeber that grill. It really wasn't anything special. Just expensive.

[@kenshinflyer]

This is what I feared...this once-great company self-imploding. Then again, some of the episodes were like a "writing in the wall."

[@shauncorless8965]

The only people who made any serious money were the lawyers ,that says it all 🥴

[@francisbeaudry8598]

so well said mister,,,,,,,,,, from quebec canada

[@rudigerbraun9103]

The real drama were the bikes they built...

[@JB-yb4wn]

Surprised those things were allowed on the road.

[@decnijfkris3706]

In family business it is all the same. the senior builds it up and the junior spoils it. Great respect for Paul senior.

[@samuelclemons508]

Very simple : The old man needs to get back to AA meetings....His life is out of control !

[@williamsaloka9043]

I used to watch this show in its heyday, and really enjoyed it. Too bad it ended badly, but it was inevitable... they acted like butt-heads.

[@stankobm7280]

William Saloka Oni i jesu dupeglavci. Sa radionicom i opremom koju su imali proizvodili su nešto prosječno. Sjećam se kada su Ducati radili. Stavili nešto firmiranih delova ( kao ja na svoj Suzuki) i to je to. Stvarno prosječno. Nažalost najjača stvar u svakoj epizodi je....svađa. A mislim da vi Amerikanci možete bolje. Mr. Turbo

[@toddprater14]

First 2 seasons were cool started getting stupid around the 3rd season…it was warm and fuzzy when they were in that double door tan building,,when senior was jumping his h2, Mikey doing spdumb stuff in and outside so I’d say by late 05’ it was becoming stale

[@TheCommodity]

wait, 7.2mm is a good number for tv? that is crazy. I don't think I ever realized how some youtubers are getting way better viewership than tv shows.

[@1ndigoz]

Man, my Chillhood show just end like this 😭

[@Knights2theEnd]

I work side by side with a guy who is bestfriends with Mikey. He told me a few stories of how crack has ruined Mikey's life.

[@anthonyword6914]

Paul Sr is the typical father. He loves his son's. He's given them a great inheritance, by teaching them the craft. I really enjoyed the show. I was hoping the drama was part of the show

[@Abb0able]

What craft did Mickey learn?

[@krist6687]

I believe most of the stuff was scripted and most reality tv is , but back then the majority of peeps didn’t know that , so but I did always like seeing the bikes / choppers they created

[@cupidstunt22]

"I gotta tell ya" "I'm hear to tell ya"

[@franksliwa362]

Living your life in front of cameras isn’t what I would consider a great dynamic to keeping relationships on the level! I believe greed, egos and lifestyles played roles in the failure of the relationships and business! Personally I wouldn’t ride a chopper such as theirs. They showed them riding them but it’s just not practical. The old man is in Florida now..and I think he is doing fairly well with his new endeavor.

[@sandokan1578]

I have to thank this kind of programs was what made me stop seeing TV... My God... History Channel and Discovery with big brother shows...

[@jimmyjazz240]

Some of the ugliest bikes I've ever seen came out of OCC.

[@SteffiReitsch]

Look at that huge, glitzy, fancy shop they built. They thought the fat times would last forever? That TV show was a lucky jackpot that was going to fade inevitably after a few seasons. Should have kept things simple and saved and invested the money.

[@RFSpartan]

Like most idiots in the US these dudes never plan ahead.

[@cisco95021]

Good for them that it even lasted as long as it did just from selling novelties.

[@mirceaciurel3655]

De ce nui mai vedem la TV. Era o emisiune frumoasa !!!!

[@HOBOLOCO13]

Before the recession in 2008, there were custom bikes everywhere. After that they really died off.

[@johnkozlowski8782]

I don’t feel sorry for Paul St. at all.I feel sorry for Paul Jr. and Mikey.

[@johnlacroix1639]

This video I liked it a lot ,keep up the great work. WOW very interesting 1st class very kool great info.,, AAAAAAAAAAA++++++++++++ again great

[@Pantoja3136]

Their bikes were not well constructed and hold absolutely no value. Just for viewing, not for riding.

[@markmcmillan6254]

I liked watching the process of building a bike from scratch. I did not like what seemed like constant bickering between Sr and Jr. Mikey and the guys caught in the middle. I really thought the arguing was scripted for higher ratings. I guess that part worked....for a while.

[@markmarsh27]

It ended because OCC bikes are GARBAGE. There are plenty of testimonials from owners who say they're difficult and uncomfortable to ride and they feel unsafe. And the whole famly being total assholes probably had something to do with it.

[@PropperNaughtyGeezer]

I always mean the people very good in terms of their craftsmanship and they also had great machines, but in terms of engineering the concepts were always very questionable. I don't think any of these bikes would get a registration here. The TÜV would shut down the bikes here as soon as they entered the yard. Rear wheels not sprung at all, freely hanging brake lines, unprotected drive belts, protruding components, load-bearing parts of the front fork cut out of a block with a water jet ....

[@glenburke8090]

Their bikes sucked. Pretty doesn't mean well-built or reliable.

[@dieterh.9342]

The POW/MIA bike episode would make any patriot cry.

[@eugeneklusacek2803]

I need to take a course with Jesse James better yet with Billy Lane

[@pennbrown4533]

Drama runs people away

[@sazizwaz8269]

It ended because senior was jealous of his sons creatively. That Seinor didn't have. Senior wouldn't admit that Paul's talent helped make OCC and the show successful. I tuned in to watch senior get pissed off and throw a fit to then have Paul Jr save the day with his talented designs.

[@franklinstephen3268]

Hello dear how are you doing?

[@anthonyg6221]

I went to look at a used vehicle years ago from a private party. Guy had a custom chopper in the garage. I asked him about it and he said he bought it years before for big money - like 20K+ He was offering it to me for some ridiculously low price. Something like $5,000. Being older and out of motorcycles I had no interest whatsoever. And when I was into bikes I preferred sport bikes. He said he had been trying to dump it for a long time and no one was interested. I always thought those choppers were cool looking but totally non functional. Seems the population has come to agree.

[@thecloneguyz]

Funny every time Discovery gets involved the whole thing implodes and falls apart but they walk away with bag full of money

[@miroslavzima8856]

The drama was the only thing which I hated on this show. Usually I changed the channel until they were done and then returned.

[@stephenbehl9178]

The old man should remember that kids grow up and do their own thing

[@ddmau7995]

The father was me ,me ,me, me . He had money but couldnt design a better jock strap let alone a chopper .Those bikes were nothing special . All created on a computer . If they had their marketing shit together, they should have made a bike for this generation. An electric bike with training wheels that could also run on cucumbers.

[@jimcrump2659]

Paul Sr. now operates OCC Roadhouse in St.Petersburg FL.

[@leondraw1766]

If Paul Sr. decided to become Paulette Sr. the network wouldn't have cancelled them.

[@jonelliott359]

The sad truth is it was senior’s ego the fights with Junior where bad but it is because they are so a like. But once Senior started making money he drove his middle son Danny away he drove Junior away he drove Mickey away his daughter stopped speaking to him Junior had his faults but this came down to senior letting fame and money get to him more then he realized. I would bet he realizes it now and would do things very different.

[@michaelsmiley15]

In 2002 discovery announced a new Monday night lineup monster house Monster Garage American chopper Monster house and Monster Garage were extremely expensive shows and their budget within 2 years quickly diminished By 2008 the country was in the beginnings of a very bad recession and recession and Discovery Channel at that point did not have the money to keep American chopper on its network Had it not been for TLC at that point we would not have continued with American chopper in no form

[@Eric_Von_Yesselstyn]

Choppers were a FAD and EVERYONE started making them.. Seriously not hard to do for a good welder and an engine guy.

[@Tomsharpe9988]

They also sold terrible products! They weren't motorcycles, they were tacky looking toys that were unrideable. The whole show was just as bad.

[@knightmare1015]

Paul Sr was impossible to get along with. Even Rick Petco had issues with Paul Sr. and Rick is more laid back than anyone is. I'm pretty sure that if the lawsuit did not happen and they stayed of Discovery Channel and stuck with Junior vs Senior, the show would still be on the and OCC would still be in business. They made so many piss poor business decisions to keep that lawsuit going that it wasn't funny.

[@rapsack7058]

There were many charcters with a "too" strong will and terrible attitudes...

[@_Wai_Wai_]

Sometimes market forces do come into play. Overpriced overrated crap should get pushed out of the market

[@warwick4763]

I loved that show the chopper’s were amazing but the dad was a bully and a DH

[@HaggiyoPilipinas]

Custom choppers are not for the road

[@jameshollen9723]

everybody has "skeletons" in their closet. Jr's problem was he could not show up for work on time. That pissed off dad. Both are talented and a little light hearted disagreement on the show just added spice, however, things exploded to a huge DRAMA that got old REAL QUICK ! JUST BUILD BIKES AND GROW UP !

[@dadgarage7966]

These divas could only sing one song.

[@markholland6657]

they did make some great LOOKING bikes... there is a reason there is a saying 'never work with friends or family'.. very sad..

[@diamond66ist]

Or was it because the bikes were crap !

[@JB-yb4wn]

Well yes. Can't believe that they wanted 80 grand for some of those rolling death traps.

[@monkmchorning]

An ambitious father who thought he could build his sons like he built motorcycles and a business.

[@jamesbond4772]

Everything comes to a end 😂😂😂😂

[@marlinkojak9882]

so sad i enjoyed the show very much just that the father had a bad temper unless that was part of a act which did not like that part of the show at all it was about building great bikes

[@yvonnelivingstone517]

Awe im sorry loved watching you guy's when i could wish i had a 3 wheeler because i can ride it on british roads

[@semperfipar1299]

Both men would never work in the same shop again. They never worked in the same shop. Paul senior went to work on time everyday along with his employees and Junior showed up when he felt like it, which by the way was the drama, Paul Jr. was a well paid bum. Paul Sr. made the mistake a lot of parents make. He did not have the heart to throw his sons out of the house or ship them off to the military for some regimented life training.

[@binomesprite7829]

Well you got that totally wrong,

[@ez1913]

Jr. was always disrespectful. He couldn't even keep a clean shop. No where near as smart as he thinks he is.

[@outermarker5801]

Pimp my bike frames basically

[@UNVACCINATED20]

Not hard to figure out why, Sr. Was jealous and his ego couldn’t deal with his son having more success. The success ruined their partnership and relationships. OCC was doomed the day Jr. was fired.

[@JohnUk65]

It was awesome when it first started. but got very boring in the last few series. you might say it went a bit Hollywood!

[@augnkn93043]

It was essentially a gay biker show. there aren't that many gay bikers in the world. Once the audience had figured that out then they left the show.

[@dantevortex]

It's a shame really. But that's how people end up destroying themselves. Paul Sr. thought he could just stomp over everyone's head and get away with it. Boy was he wrong.

[@lairenlakpammotilalsingh5199]

The old man is mean !