The REAL Story of FNAF SOLVED

[@3_42am]

Incredible video! I think it's really fun to think about what the lore could've been without the books. It felt refreshing hearing this kind of summary.

[@OkMakuTree]

...so what you're telling me is, Freddy Fazbear is actually the Essentia 1987? And Michael is actually this world's Alex?! My my... 👀

[@StarBlue42]

@OkMakuTree @hellkrai okay but if Alex had frontal lobe damage that might explain a lot lol

[@TheHeroHaven]

I feel like this work’s incredibly well from a story perspective and I really like the idea of the crying child being the one Michael should not have killed it’s infinitely more satisfying then a girl William went a little too far on

[@souptoonart]

you expect me to believe you can make a coherent fnaf timeline without including the spindly crunkus from book 1983?

[@emilynoodlesart4030]

What do you mean you don't want to read a bazillion books and sit trough years of source code of a website to make sense of the story of a videogame!? Great Video

[@ImmenseAndrew]

Actually, there's only 32 books; 25 if you ignore the graphic novels and outdated Freddy Files 🤓🤓🤓🤓

[@anorak3334]

It's literally not that convoluted at all, you people are seriously amazing at over-complicating things into oblivion just to prove a non-existent shitty point all bc you dislike a different form of media. There are literally dozens upon dozens of sources online that recount everything that happen in the books, so keeping up with them is literally ANYTHING BUT an issue, and if it is, it's more than likely bc you're just purposefully choosing to go out of your way to ignore them. Books having major lore reveals have even been a thing since TSE. Literally if you use anything about William's personality, use Henry's name, use Charlotte's name, use any form of explanation for what remnant is- it's thanks to TSE trilogy

[@anorak3334]

@@ImmenseAndrew It's literally not that convoluted at all, you people are seriously amazing at over-complicating things into oblivion just to prove a non-existent shitty point all bc you dislike a different form of media. There are literally dozens upon dozens of sources online that recount everything that happen in the books, so keeping up with them is literally ANYTHING BUT an issue, and if it is, it's more than likely bc you're just purposefully choosing to go out of your way to ignore them. Books having major lore reveals have even been a thing since TSE. Literally if you use anything about William's personality, use Henry's name, use Charlotte's name, use any form of explanation for what remnant is- it's thanks to TSE trilogy

[@checco-pb7rb]

Finally a video about the lore WITHOUT the books (What I mean is that i always wondered how the lore could be discussed on otherwise). A great video 👍👍!!

[@technofurs]

I like the idea of using as little sources as possible, but... It just becomes hard for later games, as these books, source codes, and self-referencial stories are there to fill in the gaps, and not make things convoluted. (not talking about the novels, they don't count, they just introduce us to concepts and characters) It becomes just innacurate after sister location, because the infos to justify the right theories just aren't shown in the games sometimes, like patient 46, mci85, etc...

[@linguisticspaceship]

100% disagree about Patient 46. Hellkrai had another video on the channel talking about it, as well as a "livestream" of sorts we did together. It's 100% all in the game, and it's something that people even talked about before the books spelled it out. The book simply confirmed it to be the case, but it wasn't a completely out of left field thing. Also for the case of the MCI, I don't think the year matters all that much, just the exact range. I know it''s tempting for a timeline to list EXACTLY when an event happened, but honestly exact dates and times don't matter as much compared to just placement. I don't know how much the events of a timeline would really change if MCI was in 1984 or 1986, as an example.

[@enochsadventures]

they cause more gaps books are not canon

[@ArmorAdv413]

I’m pretty sure there are some lines like “this is how it feels” in UCN about being the guard in that game like it’s a punishment they haven’t experienced before when Mike has because he was in that position loads of times before trying to survive and failing (in sister location at least) and isn’t there the old man consequences thing where if you make the player drown in the lane you can hear them scream “MIIIIKE, HEENNRY!” or something it wouldn’t make sense if Mike was the one in UCN because why would he scream for help from himself

[@hellkrai]

That is only if you believe that the player is William. And that the player is the one that is screaming. Furthermore Mike would have never felt what it was like to be eaten by the animatronics.

[@ArmorAdv413]

@@hellkrai they did take his organs though

[@ThatStrangeUnknown]

You know what up to the point at UCN this has changed my point of veiw of the "lore" of FNAF. This actualy changed a ton on what I THOUGHT. Not only that but this was so well made that I can't debunk any of it as the thoughts were so complexe and well thought out. Now of course I never listen to these videos, in fact never watch them but this one for some reason caught my eye. Maybe it was because it was different or- had some twist, that i knew would not come. But I have been proven wrong. The only time I heard of lore which in my case just ruins the games if you base it off of "fan expectation" and not reality which made this so god dam unique. This was actualy different. As I always follow my own famous quote and I wont say that it was my original thought but you can yell at me with a comment for saying so but- "Never follow the crowd, be yourself"! This lore not only makes sense as the greif is horrible and the pain of the past could not be something Micheal could not move past, it also doesnt keep the spotlight on william, it adds more of the juicy detail people might not even look into because there too blind by what other people say.

[@hellkrai]

Thanks 🙏 all I hope to do at the end of the day is bring new perspectives to art. It seems a lot of other videos like this exist to elevate the speaker and the audience above the art, which I feel is counterproductive. But I'm glad that this could provide that to you.

[@MoonLightSFM]

Ive known fnaf since 2014 and lost the spark while fnaf 6 was out so i lost track off lore for all these years. This being my first video about the lore in god knows how long makes me have no regrets i love the ideas and honestly i support it im glad i finally dont have a gap on what happned because lore changed a lot. Fnaf 4 ideas was mwa and the best was definitely UCN! Honestly i believe its a good thing i havent looked to refresh my lore info for years because looking at the comments everyone is being rude because they think of a specific lore that is clearly most popular. I find this lore most interesting, though i dont know the other lore ideas fully and i heard nitpicks over it , this one makes most sense and by far the most exciting one yet! Finally i can now say i no longer have the lore of 2015 times because that was the last time i focused on the lore fully 😂 as much as i loved fnaf 6 like i said lost the spark and didnt focus on it anymore 😅 if you missed out anything oh well what do i know far as i can tell this is the most accurate to me and no issues put forth. I will subscribe to your channel and will be excited for your next videos Now thinking about it it was probably a bad idea not looking for lore until now because i make animations 🤧

[@StarBlue42]

Idk about Balora being the one in the chair... everything else seems plausible though. The idea of Mike being in Ultimate Custom Night is really sad though

[@hellkrai]

Yeah I only mention it, noting its a stretch just because the context of her song makes a lot of sense.

[@StarBlue42]

​@@hellkraitrue! If it isn't Balora then it's kind of a loose end...I don't think Afton had any known accomplices. So it may as well be her.

[@gingerrbearr256]

really refreshing take on the time line!! good job hellkrai :D

[@SupercatTheBazingalinga]

This is the true test of whether the games stand up on their own, whether they actually make sense

[@godzillakingofthemonsters5812]

I do have to disagree with UCN. While Michael did a horrible thing, there's too many lines referring to the player deserving what they got, their evil, the fear they gave others, and the vengeful spirit holding him and never wanting to let him go....it really only makes sense that this is William being held in the endless torment he gave to others. As for Springtrap being there. it's clear to me it's mocking Willy's arrogance, his rabbit costume he used to kill so many innocent kids. "I will put you back together" is also pretty well accepted as coming from William. I don't know how you'd say this makes sense to Michael. They also often say "the one you shouldn't have killed" that really only makes sense if there's more than one kill. Which must be William, who has like....10 bare minimum. Puppet says "I'm not afraid of you...not anymore." and "Seeing you powerless is like music to me" but why? If it's Michael he doesn't know who this is and these lines don't make sense....but if it's William....they're perfect. As you implied the young girl may have been Afton's first intended victim. The one creating this hells cape is shown with a bear sprite "leave the demon to his demons" (is Mike really a demon? More than his serial killer of a father?) and the end shows its Golden Freddy twitching in eternal rage.

[@hellkrai]

So you misunderstand the direction I'm referring to. Not a "hell" he's going to but a purgatory of his own making. William cannot have a "Purgatory" because he's not regretful for what he has done, he wouldn't repent. While this suffering is something that OTHERS want for him, it's not something he can have. The torment is as in the end of Pizza Sim, Michael choosing to suffer for what he feels he has done. Literally choosing to repent, the literal purpose of purgatory. "Let me put you back together, then take you apart all over again." is coming from Nightmare Fredbear, a warped version of his brother. This is what the result of his accidental killing is. "the one you shouldn't have killed" that really only makes sense if there's more than one kill. SO WHO IS IT THEN? It's harder to place a single of the ten plus children that would become overly hateful and meaningful to William. There's only one meaningful to Michael... "Puppet says "I'm not afraid of you...not anymore." and "Seeing you powerless is like music to me" but why? If it's Michael he doesn't know who this is" The puppet is the daughter of William's business partner. Michael is the son of William... They know each other. and Michael was a bully and literally resulted in the death of his brother.. "The one creating this hells cape is shown with a bear sprite "leave the demon to his demons"" Are you talking about Old Man Consequences? Either way who is associated with Golden Freddy or rather Fredbear? Not the puppet, not any of the kids William killed. It's Michael's Brother. sooooooooo

[@godzillakingofthemonsters5812]

@@hellkrai But why? He outright chose to free his sister and the rest, then chose to find William and assisted Henry in bringing the nightmares to a end by all of them dying. Why would Michael even know what this is referring to? Clearly William said these words to his kid, it only makes sense if they're said back to him. It really only makes sense if it's multiple kills. That one, the one who's still bitter, is holding him here. This is immense head canon. It's more direct and supported if the Puppet is speaking to Anton, know the guy who killed her in cold blood. The children William killed. In FNAF 2 and 3 mini games we constantly see the Puppet giving the animatronics life and their eventual freedom as the 5 missing children. Freddy, Foxy, Bonnie, Chica. That's 4, and Puppet was a separate murder. Not only do we see Golden Freddy in all of these, but in FNAF 3 we're the 5th soul pushing Afton into the Springtrap suit. So the soul in Golden Freddy hunting Willy down to destroy him is already established in game. Even in these Golden Freddy is the last one, the one who is freed last and the one given life last. This might imply the kid was either tormented longer by William or watched all their friends meet a gruesome end before becoming the yellow bear. Sounds like a pretty good reason to become a vengeful spirit as that second voice is attributed to. Mike's brother doesn't make sense.

[@hellkrai]

@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 Why would she not hate him? Why would she need him to not get into her way? If it's William it doesn't make any sense. Your take on it is just as much immense headcanon as mine so I would like it if you would speak as such

[@hellkrai]

This is the beauty of different perspectives I don't have the same take on the story that you do and sure you don't have the same take as I That's great. The game is purposely not explicit about what it's saying there So for you to assert that you're interpretation of it, your perspective, is less headcanon than mine is frankly insulting. You didn't write the fucking game Don't tell me what is and isn't headcanon.

[@andrewkurlzzthedark2976]

​@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812tbh you're right about this. This hell/purgatory is williams. Every theorist and fan have agreed with this. Also I think the reason why Charlie isn't mad at William is because, she probably doesn't seem like the type of person to hold a grudge in my opinion, but you're absolutely right about this

[@TBA968]

41:05 Damn hellkrai you did it agian, you blew my mind. Although thinking about it, "the one you should not have killed" kind of implies multiple people were killed by him? Kind of?

[@hellkrai]

I don't think so necessarily. I think I tried to phrase it as "if he knows he's responsible for every death after his father's descent, then he's mentally taking responsibility for all of the murders." Which is fitting for his personal purgatory

[@Starbear_Ent]

@@hellkrai this is a stretch that even mr fantastic can't do

[@hellkrai]

@@Starbear_Ent 🤔🤔 I mean we already see him haunted by "nightmare" animatronics How is "him being haunted by the fact that him accidentally killing his brother makes him slightly "responsible" for the deaths of the others" a stretch? If he didn't kill his brother very likely the rest of the events wouldn't have happened. Because it seems to be the catalyst for the murders

[@kab_]

this actually makes so much sense this is so good

[@L1z43vr]

I agree with most of this… Except for the MikeHell part. UCN is clearly about William and Cassidy, not CC and Mike, not only because CC would act completely out of character to how he acted in FNaF 4, not only because CC not only has already been freed in Happiest Day, but also because do you really expect CC to see all the development Mike has gone through and simply start torturing him? Yeah, Mike messed up, but he’s making up for it. Hell, I’d argue he made up for it with Happiest Day. CC has no reason to torture Mike, and the whole “we play as Mike through most of the franchise” bit is irrelevant, because Jeremy Fitzgerald exists. UCN is solely about William.

[@hellkrai]

It's not about crying child torturing Michael, It's about Michael torturing himself which he does throughout the series imo

[@a_random_innocent_personxd2396]

The fnaf theory videos became some sort of challenge where you chose categories os difficulty. "oh now I'mma make a FNaF theory using just just... yatta yatta"

[@MichealAfton1983]

Wait, if Micheal is in UCN, then why does it show willaim screaming for Mike in what’s most likely hell the Old Man consequences Easter egg in UCN? (Also why would they have the main character of the series being tortured instead of William who is the villain??? It makes so sense)

[@hellkrai]

It's odd if that's the character we are playing as screaming. But what if he's screaming for Mike because we are Mike? And what happened In the game prior with Michael and Henry working together to trap him. Also if you don't get why I said that let me explain it again. It's not him getting tortured by God or whatever. It's him being tortured by himself that he is obsessed that he is in purgatory for what he has done a self imposed hell not that of others onto him.

[@RandomPlushies47]

U must get 1 mil subs

[@agentboi4794]

This is certainly an interesting way to look at the timeline. I'm not really here to nit pick but I really feel like William being trapped in the safe room before the events of fnaf 1 and Michael's speech being after fnaf 3 are off. William can't be in the safe room before fnaf 1 because he destroyed the fnaf 1 characters plus the buildings state of disrepair. And Michael's speech has to be before fnaf 3. This speech is after a put Elizabeth back together and after Ennard scooped him. This gives Mike motivation to find William and the cutscene itself is most likely to tease their final reunion in fnaf 6 not them meeting in fnaf 3. Edit: I don't think UCN is Mike's purgatory or hell or guilt manifested, it's Williams. Yes he's facing 2 versions of himself and characters like the nightmares, but that doesn't mean it can't be William. The vengeful spirit is most likely the one torturing William with mentions if "The One You Should Not Have Killed". If it's Mike it could really only mean the crying child but that doesn't really make sense contextually. If it's William the emphasis on ONE victim out of his sea of murders is doing this to him.

[@hellkrai]

William has to be in the safe room because it's not currently accessible in FNAF 1, Because it's boarded up. There are the "dream sequence" things of The puppet putting the FNAF 1 animatronics back together so could be that. It has to be after FNAF 3 because the scene literally shows William in Fazbear frights after it has been burned down. Unless the audio and visual is not related then So this is why I emphasize that it probably is Michael. Because if it's William one out of the 12 children he murdered isn't specific and it doesn't seem to be the puppet specifically? It doesn't seem to be the first child that he murdered. It doesn't seem to be anything relevant really Just one of the random childs is now some omniscient thing that can torture this person in purgatory. But Michael however that's a strong connection and actually great story writing if it's supposed to be him and it's the idea of brother as guilt manifested. I think that's just far more compelling than it being some random kid that we know nothing about. One that's relevant and means something to not only the character experiencing that hell but also the entire narrative as a whole as the child that began the entire series.

[@Iwidelyoutliveeverything]

all my homies hate the books

[@SuperSonicbros4]

How come?

[@mon_moi]

I think UCN is intentionally made to be read as either William or Michael's purgatory, with the Puppet, Nightmare Fredbear, and Circus Baby addressing Michael, and Chica, Nightmarionne, and the Mediocre Melodies addressing William. The rest of the voiceline animatronics just make dad jokes to torment the player. Also since you avoided reliance on the books, it makes sense for this video to make Crying Child the "one that shouldn't have been killed" instead of Cassidy from the Survival Logbook. I think Squimpus McGrimpus' FNAF VHS series also made Crying Child the vengeful spirit of Golden Freddy too, although his anger in the VHS series was directed at his father instead of Michael. Overall it's a neat timeline video that doesn't deviate too much from the pre-FNAF VR consensus on the timeline, while only relying on in game information Btw the books are actually kinda decent on their own, but that's only true for the novel trilogy and Fazbear Frights. Tales From the Pizzaplex is just...excessively gory and violent despite supposedly being canon to Security Breach aka the tamest FNAF game since FNAF World. If Tales remained in a seperate continuity from Security Breach I guarantee you there'd be much less dissent among the lore enthusiasts in the fandom

[@godzillakingofthemonsters5812]

I literally don't see how you can interpret it being Mike, it really only makes sense for it to be William. Even in game canon we know he's the killer, he created monsters, slaughtered children including his own, and FNAF6 left off saying he deserves to go to Hell and then a "demon" is referred to in this game.

[@dakotacornish6616]

Ngl i feel like the books ruined fnaf it turned the lore from a broken family and a bloodstained foodchain and a serial killers madness and the grief of an accident that sprialed out of control all burned down in one finale and the only strange thing in the games in the time traveling ballpit into a faz goo mess legit if the books were never canon in anyway we would have had an excellent story legit the only book that I feel like was healthy to the story was the fnaf guide book by Micheal

[@corvidaecorvus9446]

FINALLY! A THEORY THAT IGNORES BOOKS! The only thing I really disagree with is the ending. I'm solidly in the 'William's Hell' camp, though I absolutely see your logical direction with those voice lines. It just feels like more of a satisfying conclusion to a story (cause Help Wanted onward is a continuation, but another story, lbr). But either way doesn't change the storyline much. Edit: ...Alright, I wrote this and immediately was like 'And Hell, William is screaming where ever he is at the old man consequences lake' But then it would make sense for the Old man to be talking to you while you "hear" your dad screaming for help. I suppose it would be the "true ending" of custom night, the Old Man saying 'Just rest now.' So I suppose I am more in your camp now, shit. XD

[@hellkrai]

🙏 things just line up too well. One more thing is I want to double down and say I don't think that it's literally his brother that is tormenting him but it's more his idea of him that is.

[@Sing87eh]

Bro you do know the books are in cannonicty

[@Ss55-u8l]

i am your 700th subscriber nice video btw

[@hellkrai]

🙏 I appreciate the support

[@Adventist1997]

If your theory isn't true, it needs to be a movie. 🥰

[@GJMinions]

Hot take I think Charlie died first

[@Hostezza_.]

holy shit this is so good!!!!

[@theyuritheorist]

Aside from the UCN and ballora in the midnight motorist, I think the only other contradiction is the "I should be dead" line, because the only two ways I can interpret that line is either michael is springtrap and the line is him talking while coming out of the burned wreckage but that doesn't make sense if william is the killer who hides in the springlock suit and dies in it or it's michael is talking to himself sometime before FNAF 3 since living in shadows would mean it's been some time after he got scooped and "last thing to do" would mean he's done other things, presumably freeing the spirits hence why the FNAF 2 termination slips say "fired for tampering with the animatronics" although I do think it is weird that he'd talk to himself, I think he says it as a promise to himself to finding and kill william, and I think they show springtrap having survived to be a sort of teaser that the story had at least one more part where afton would maybe face michael one more time

[@hellkrai]

Yeah I think it would just be weird for him to want to try to find him. If in FNAF3 he had already found him. That's why I suggest in that game you play as someone else. Plus that if you are playing someone else and you're "freeing some of the souls" Michael wouldn't know this going into UCN. I think it's clearly referring to the events of Sister Location especially since it's a teaser from that game as well.

[@theyuritheorist]

@@hellkrai I do wonder who we are in FNAF 3 since that game has no name or year anywhere, so we just have to throw it in a general area on the timeline and then use a pre-existing name for the unnamed person since it has the least info for the location's place despite having a lot of lore in terms of the minigames and the initial ending of the story at the time

[@Mouthy_Merc1996]

We prolly play as Henry ngl

[@robin.8868]

The only timeline that makes any fucking sense lmao

[@isaiasramos2226]

This was really good I also do t like the books it makes bad

[@vanyadolly]

Nice to see a timeline built around just the games, it leads to some interesting conclusions. I do however think that midnight motorist is about one of the MCs rather than William. All the minigames are about the victims, so it being about William and Michael doesn't make much sense in the context. Not to mention it would be the only time William isn't purple, and nowhere else is it suggested that William took to drink and reckless driving rather than pouring himself into his work. The guy secluded himself from his family and possibly conducted experiments on them; taking time off to drunkenly beat on Michael doesn't seem like his brand of crazy. Mike as the security guard in all the games is the only thing that makes narrative sense. Likewise his actions during the games are moments of redemption and release for Michael. His words and actions imply that he's actively putting things right and that he blames his father for most of what's happened. I don't see much to support that he wouldn't want to move on and be reunited with his siblings. Crippling guilt is rarely that proactive, and if he just wanted to lie down and die he had plenty of opportunities to do that. He also doesn't have any connection or guilt when it comes to the other victims.

[@TactlessC]

I dunno if I can really roll with Mike being the UCN player character because there's other lines that could just as easily imply William despite the logic of "why are the traps here" cause I mean...in that case why is there both Scraptrap AND Springtrap instead of just one or the other? Same with the Withereds and OGs. Like...it's a hellish torment, logic doesn't have to fully play there. Not to mention the whole "no matter how many times he tries to burn us" line when only William would have experienced multiple fires in that case. And it's also just that...Mike killed ONE person and the guilt has followed and motivated him ever since, why would HE be in Hell when he was trying to resolve things instead of the literal serial killer? If the counter point is "Why is the Crying Child as Golden Freddy holding his Father here" then well you have to in turn ask the question "why did his Father let his son treat his other kid like absolute dogshit", even taking work related negligence into account with the kind of pranks the kid was put into, including being locked in a closet with a headless animatronic, there's no way William wouldn't have heard about it and then just...not done anything. This is why at the bare minimum, as much as it's a pain to take a book into account, you still have to include the Security Logbook at the bare minimum to form a cohesive narrative with UCN, lest the Crying Child never possessed Golden Freddy and it was just the fifth kid who was killed in the MCI, which arguably it would have to be because the Crying Child isn't A PART of the five but Golden Freddy IS a part of the five original animatronics possessed. tl;dr It can't be Mike haunted by his brother in Hell because his brother isn't part of the MCI and can't be possessing Golden Freddy.

[@hellkrai]

If you consider the security log book, which I do. Shows the nightmare animatronics as things that Michael experienced (Not his brother and not his father) Which actually strengthens my interpretation. Why would they haunt William when they're Mike's Nightmares?

[@andrewkurlzzthedark2976]

You're correct on this. This is williams hell and he's being held by cassidy

[@anorak3334]

*doesn't use the books* Why though?? That's just stupid and unnecessary on so many levels. The ENTIRE PURPOSE behind the book's existence at all, is because they're here to help solve the lore. Purposefully ignoring them is doing absolutely nothing but just make things more convoluted for not really any reason at all, and probably also because the FF stories heavily very heavily support TOYSHNK being another victim of William's (huh, jeez, why am I surprised people ignore purposefully provided information and lore to support their theories, all bc said information borderline debunks it)

[@hellkrai]

I haven't read the books. Okay but who cares?

[@anorak3334]

@@hellkrai My point exactly. And like it's literally not even that difficult to keep up with the books at all, you don't even have to buy them and read them yourself with how many dozens upon dozens upon dozens of sources you can find recapping everything, so even then complaining that there's too many or whatever doesn't make sense either. Look I'm just saying, maybe don't purposefully ignore the official media that literally exists to help with the lore. I'm sorry but that is genuinely just stupid

[@hellkrai]

@@anorak3334 No The point is is I don't need the books to understand the games I can have my own interpretation without them. And I can have a really artful meaningful interpretation of what the games are trying to say without ever having to look into the books and see if I am right. This is the point The issue is is this video isn't supposed to be correct or "the lore" It is objectively what I think about the series and my interpretation of what the story is based on the games that I played and what I experienced. Not everything needs to be solved not everything needs to be investigated to this degree. This is a form of brainrot to you by Matt Pat and other FNAF theorists.

[@hellkrai]

@@anorak3334 I implore you to watch my video about books in video games.

[@anorak3334]

@@hellkrai Fair enough point, but idk that still doesn't change my other point, which is that people at this point are seemingly purposefully ignoring official material that's been outright stated every single time to be there to help with the lore, all bc it's a different media. I get not wanting to have to look outside of the games, but not wanting to bother to look outside of the games, doesn't change the fact of the matter at all, if it's as simple as that a lot of other official FNAF material meant to help with the lore, is doing exactly that, a.k.a y'know...........helping with the lore? You can say that you don't need the books to understand the games all you want, but that won't ever change it if there's a scenario where the books do help with the lore, all you're proving then by that point is literally just that one can't be bothered to look at different forms of media, and that's about it

[@Mouthy_Merc1996]

Okay so I’m still kinda confused. I was pretty sure that Fnaf 4 was the Crying Child instead of Micheal, mostly due to his fear of the animatronics, plus the crying child’s room is basically just the Fnaf 4 room, at least that’s what it seems like. Another thing is with the 5 kids incident, it had to happen in the first location for it to shut down correct? Then the “sister location” (Fnaf 2) opens up, I’m still confused My one last question is Fnaf 1 before sister location. My only question is Mike being fired because of Odor. It may be a small thing but a rotting corpse wouldn’t really smell good with too much cologne. But yea almost everything else makes sense those are just my questions

[@hellkrai]

In Sister Location the room in the Gameplay and Minigame are shown to be two different buildings. One camera monitoring each of the Afton children. We have no idea where exactly the first case of missing children takes place. Other than that it's some Fazbear location. I think that in FNAF 2 it opens before or around the time it happens so that the second case happens there. And that the second string of murders happens AS we play the game. That he's not found out until the second string of murders.

[@chaoraiser2338]

Well eh in all honesty charlie doesn't have to hate William at all tbh most people probably would hate their killer but if you say someone like me who can't really bring myself to yeah plus she is like 3 or was 3 when she died and even tho age technically doesn't matter its clearly in Charlie's character not to hate she may have her evil moments yeah but she's not hateful and William constantly getting in the way of people being free makes sense for her to say that also ig we could technically say that line could go for Elizabeth in that case because she's trying to help William so her not hating her but telling her to move would make sense line wise not ucn wise ucn idk if she's even there but she probably doesn't really hate anyone she wouldn't hate Micheal that would make sense she doesn't have to hate William especially if she's not the type to hold grudges although i would say she isn't happy with him or Elizabeth or even Cassidy for keeping him around after all we know charlie won't leave until everyone is put to rest so unless she just decides that's not her problem anymore that's about it

[@snazzzzy]

so real

[@ParadoxicWasHere]

My one major query, if you believe the palyer is still Michael in UCN - how do you interpret the Old Man Consequences sequence?

[@hellkrai]

The last thing Michael heard from his father is his screams. He needs to let go of feeling responsible for him, for feeling responsible for the monster he became.

[@ParadoxicWasHere]

@@hellkrai Valid interpretation! Does your theory accommodate for the post Pizzareia Simulator games in any way? Totally understand if not, I'm incredibly impressed as I think this is the first coherent Fnaf 1-6 theory I've ever seen with no bonus materials

[@hellkrai]

@@ParadoxicWasHere yeah I think this cleanly leads into the Steel Wool games (they're kinda what drew me into looking into the story of the series for myself). But my take on those is a bit different, I'll wait to see how Ruin and Help Wanted 2 flesh it out more before I make something like this for it, plus I liked the sort of dramatic ending I had here lol

[@ParadoxicWasHere]

@@hellkrai Fair enough! I figured either this was a part 1 or you were just focusing on what was canon to the in-universe game series And you're right the ending hit HARD

[@hellkrai]

Yeah my other video kinda goes over some of what I think about "Steel Wool-era" if you're interested but it's a lot shorter and more like explaining a single aspect of the story that seems to connect each game that I thought was overlooked

[@tilerandom]

best timeline

[@ilikegoblo4665]

Hellkrai is made up by an illusion disk he isn’t real

[@aymenmerrad5973]

00:51 Can anyone tell me the name of the music that starts at this time?

[@joeplayzgames2625]

here before this blows up

[@hellkrai]

🙏 We can only hope

[@Ragnordragon]

Amazing

[@SudetenlandMan]

wait william afton IS AN ESTONIAN?

[@DJ_Music_Man2]

No games?

[@hellkrai]

Unlimited bacon?

[@blueberryelf1150]

No HW or SB???? They are games too lol.

[@hellkrai]

I stopped short because there is SOME stuff to talk about but with Ruin and HW2 coming so close I felt I should give it time. My other video talks about those games and a rough idea of my take on the narrative tho, they're actually the ones I like the most

[@blueberryelf1150]

@hellkrai ah ok. Would be cool to see a part 2 sometime

[@LeaveMeAlone3omgIgotloggedouta]

They are not important.

[@seemo5789]

Finally, someone who speaks English.

[@enochsadventures]

hear a lot of people talking about the old man consequences easter egg first of all it's utter trash that says nothing the best I can argue is that it maybe says "mike" once or twice and nothing more I recommend you look into he hero's journey while I like your timeline and I don't disagree with it objectively because I simply cannot even, I would personally make minor changes like I still think mike is the fnaf 3 guard. That's just the thing though really we're arguing an abstract narrative that simply does not exist and I do respect your timeline and won't make claims that it's false. I'll simply call it "the Mike's Journey narrative" and because fnaf has no real story, which is what I think scott is really saying with the books "that there are a number of narratives." So to further exemplify the "Mike's Journey" narrative I think that in respect to Mike in the Hero's Journey he has to be the one we are in UCN. Mike only killed one person. It's morally incorrect to say that it was OK for William to have killed anyone but one? In the hero's journey he must face the Abyss before his transformation and atonement, which in this narrative would be him being glamrock freddy at some point sacrificing himself for gregory who represents the reincarnation (at least metaphorically) of his brother serving as his absolution for his sins. Fnaf had to continue from this perspective because it was an incomplete journey.

[@paperprince2953]

Are there any other narratives you would recommend?

[@enochsadventures]

@@paperprince2953 There's lots of narratives such as friendship narratives christ-like narratives and tragedies which are designed to punish the reader emotionally there is also the superman who can be seen as a unstoppable badass there's the rule or cool which you must choose what is cool even at the sake of sensibility The hero's journey is called a monomyth because it writes a template for a hero and his transformation. It's not per se mandatory, and you can break the monomyth in your own narrative, but it's a common template.

[@paperprince2953]

@@enochsadventures sounds nice. could you send me those other narratives if possible? or tell me where they come from.

[@SuperStar-ss1pn]

I disagree with Mike nightmares since that contradicts official material. But I do agree with Michael not being in fnaf 3.

[@SuperStar-ss1pn]

As well as Michael mm

[@hellkrai]

I'm not sure how Mike nightmares contradicts anything?

[@SuperStar-ss1pn]

@@hellkrai encyclopedia, an official source lol.

[@hellkrai]

So a book? Also if I remember the encyclopedia correctly it comes from the perspective of Mike and he draws the nightmare character in the book itself right? And then you take the map that I pointed out and sister location where the room that we see in the game play segments of FNAF 4 is different from the room of the little brother in the mini games. I think that "the nightmare of FNAF 4" is a double meaning, literally referring to the events of the mini game as a "nightmare "

[@SuperStar-ss1pn]

@@hellkrai 1 - No it didn't it straight up says we play as the bite victim, it even depicts him in an official capacity with them. 2 - The breaker room house contradicts the fnaf 4 house in the minigames thus they likely aren't the same area. 3 - I always saw the drawling being proof of realnightmares since they are real anamtronics and that's why he is able to draw them.

[@michellerieck6701]

No the earliest thing we know is when Henry and William opened a restaurant in 1972

[@hellkrai]

Yeah okay where's the part of the game where opening day is shown and is something we experience?

[@rpghero46]

oh fnaf 🤢 oh my god oh🤢....just helping with the algorithms buddy oh my🤢

[@MHF013]

YOU READ ONISM BUT YOU DON'T READ ACTUAL BOOKS? SHAME ON YOU.

[@hellkrai]

😏 nah FNAF fans are just obsessed with saying that the ONLY way to UNDERSTAND ANYTHING is by reading the spin off books lol

[@isaiasramos2226]

@@hellkrai facts

[@SuperSonicbros4]

​@@hellkrai I mean without the books. We wouldn't really even know the year of the mci (No clue if into the pit game Is or is not in the game universe). Along with the fact that Frights was (or is) made to help us with the lore. So (but nice video though)

[@sneeze4100]

book hater...

[@PedroMarceloJara]

Still not convincing, does anybody have an idea what the shadows are about before making a video about it? nice try tho

[@hellkrai]

🤔 it's not meant to be "convincing" just my thoughts on the story and how I feel it is coherent and cohesive unlike what others say.

[@PedroMarceloJara]

@@hellkrai it's just frustrating to have been waiting literal years, and not have an answer, at least not a complete one, and seeing all of these "Solved" videos

[@RavenZombieX]

If you are only using the games, then don't throw in all the fanfic BS... you failed automatically.

[@sneeze4100]

this comment goes so hard i wish i could push the heart button myself. i don't even know which part of it is supposedly fanfiction, it's just awesome that you live your life like dat.

[@RavenZombieX]

@@sneeze4100 then why didn't you hit the thumbs up? Lol

[@sneeze4100]

@@RavenZombieX not a heart button, i don't see your point.

[@LeaveMeAlone3omgIgotloggedouta]

Evan being TOYSHK would make sense if it wasn’t for there feminine sounding voice.

[@hellkrai]

Hmm but most "children" voice actors are women.

[@LeaveMeAlone3omgIgotloggedouta]

@@hellkrai mhhhh….good point but he couldd have hired a more “masculine sounding” tho…you could be right tho.