The Recipe Grilled Cheese

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J. Kenji López-Alt

J. Kenji López-Alt

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@TheBeetrootman
@TheBeetrootman 5 ай бұрын
Had to include the shot of Ramsay's grilled cheese with two metres of solid cheese in there like geological strata
@jmitchell3
@jmitchell3 5 ай бұрын
Gangster move lol. I only recognized it cause I watched uncle Roger’s video lol😂 food version of Tyler Durden’s film stunt haha
@cheef825
@cheef825 5 ай бұрын
Kenjis shots at Gordon and Uncle Roger always make me chuckle 😂
@grggr18
@grggr18 5 ай бұрын
that... was definitely a gangster move on Kenji's part... loved it
@KellyNicely-c9b
@KellyNicely-c9b 5 ай бұрын
Haha! I wondered what that was. Thanks for the intel
@RyuuKasai
@RyuuKasai 5 ай бұрын
Came here to find out whose tragic sandwich this was. Was not disappointed.
@SneakyMonkeh
@SneakyMonkeh 5 ай бұрын
that Ramsay jab. I love it
@piracy22
@piracy22 5 ай бұрын
I couldn’t figure out what that clip was 😂
@oskar5222
@oskar5222 5 ай бұрын
I still cannot believe how a well saesoned, multi star cook like Ramsay can mess up a simple grilled cheese like that 😂 I even tried to recreate it with all the fancy hard cheeses (without the burned bread tho) and I still don't get it 😅..
@smilestheemo3365
@smilestheemo3365 5 ай бұрын
​@@oskar5222he recently said on his Mythical Kitchen last meals episode that he was being rushed to get the video filmed and was told by his editor that the footage looked better on camera, if I remember correctly, so they didn't make a second take.
@Saurischian
@Saurischian 4 ай бұрын
Timestamp? Please
@celilpz
@celilpz 5 ай бұрын
Kenji toasting up the inside of the sandwich is very validating. I know its not a revolution but it's been my technique for the last 15 years and knowing Kenji approves warms my little heart. I'll need to add that salting step next time.
@michaelsalmon6436
@michaelsalmon6436 5 ай бұрын
very much agree with you, celilpz! Many of us have been doing our grilled cheese sandwiches in this way, long before Kenji! (I also, secretly, have always added many slices of almost fully cooked, extra-thick applewood smoked bacon to my Grilled Cheese Sandwich. It has been a football Sunday thing in our home for 50 years! Some family members also ask that I slip a few slices of jalapeno in their sandwich! Thanks for your comment! Happy Cooking !
@LNis4GT
@LNis4GT 3 ай бұрын
Kenji, I add a little spead of Duke's mayo on the inside of one piece. And then I add a thin layer of Dijon on the other. Pretty life changing.
@crys383
@crys383 5 ай бұрын
5:34 Had to get that beautiful dig in 😂
@ewiken5529
@ewiken5529 5 ай бұрын
@mythicalkitchen
@THCV4
@THCV4 5 ай бұрын
Combining the emulsifying salts from the American singles to help emulsify the other cheeses is such a good trick that is slept on. You are a true master of the Kraft of grilled cheese sandwiches.
@youngretro5829
@youngretro5829 5 ай бұрын
Adding some garlic powder to the pan along with the salt is my go to
@xojasberry377
@xojasberry377 5 ай бұрын
Hm, I'd put it in the sandwich. Garlic burns very easily and gets bitter when it does.
@Spacialvekter
@Spacialvekter 5 ай бұрын
@@xojasberry377 Yeah, this is the play. You gotta go light on it or the whole sandwich tastes like nothing but garlic, but just a little bit adds a real nice depth to it.
@tedfry236
@tedfry236 5 ай бұрын
oohh I gotta try that!
@PageToo
@PageToo 5 ай бұрын
I use the rosemary salt from that dude who can cook. Very tasty on a grilled cheese!
@willsoe
@willsoe 5 ай бұрын
Sprinkle coarse garlic salt over the top at the end when it's out of the pan but still hot
@cameronparry3195
@cameronparry3195 5 ай бұрын
I find the "cheese melts into sourdough bread" problem is lessened if you toast the inner half of the bread first, much like you do with your version of grilled cheese. It essentially creates two crispy barriers for the cheese to melt within, rather than the cheese seeping into the sourdough itself
@Sazed0
@Sazed0 5 ай бұрын
Toasting both sides is how I was taught to do it growing up. Kind of blew my mind when I talked about this with other people and realized it wasn't common!
@ashleys637
@ashleys637 5 ай бұрын
Even if you toast it, sourdough tends to have a very open structure (i.e. larger holes) than many other bread types. I can see the toasting helping a little, but quite a bit of melty cheese is going to end up within the bread. I love sourdough, but it isn't the best for grilled cheese IMHO.
@ashleys637
@ashleys637 5 ай бұрын
Compared to other bread types*
@Mezmorizorz
@Mezmorizorz 5 ай бұрын
It still happens, and in general sourdough is just a really poor choice for grilled cheese. It doesn't conduct heat well so it's very liable to have the burnt outside not melted cheese inside problem, it's hard and crusty so you don't have the crunchy outside with a gooey inside, it has a tendency to scrape up your mouth which is unpleasant, and I tend to agree with Kenji that it's not a good flavor pair with melty cheeses. It can be a valid choice for a general hot sandwich, but grilled cheese and burgers are two things people try way too hard to make fancy. It should be simple. Compound butters and cheese mixes that still melt are the only real things you can change while still being a grilled cheese, and even there you can go too far and make it soemthing completely different.
@telanis9
@telanis9 5 ай бұрын
@@Mezmorizorz Doing the inside first means you don't need to care about heat conduction through the bread. The cheese is going to be mostly melted already just from between sandwiched between the two hot sides. Sourdough also tastes fantastic with cheese, and it's not fancy -- literally the most basic and ancient version of leavened bread in existence. In other words, I could not possibly disagree more.
@bitbyterjr
@bitbyterjr 5 ай бұрын
There are so many ways to make what seems like such a simple sandwich. The catch is that they are all deeply personal and people are passionate about THEIR version.
@matroxman11
@matroxman11 4 ай бұрын
That’s what I love about cooking, its a performance art like music or theater
@NicholasKratzer
@NicholasKratzer 5 ай бұрын
While I am pro- triangle cutting your grilled cheese, that's not how I do it. I always have tomato soup with my grilled cheese, so I cut my grilled cheese into four "sandwich fingers" along the long side. I find the long shape is better for dipping in my soup with every bite. But if I ate a grilled cheese without a dipping soup, I would cut it into triangles.
@fordhouse8b
@fordhouse8b 5 ай бұрын
Isn’t that pretty much how British people cut their toast into ‘soldiers’ for dipping into soft-boiled egg?
@NicholasKratzer
@NicholasKratzer 5 ай бұрын
@@fordhouse8b Maybe? I'm not knowledgeable about British cooking, but it sounds like the same idea.
@gilgameshmcballin
@gilgameshmcballin 5 ай бұрын
This is a genius move 👏
@sjallen272
@sjallen272 5 ай бұрын
On the podcast, Deb said she does the same thing! I'd never thought to do that before.
@daphne614
@daphne614 5 ай бұрын
💯
@botch3936
@botch3936 5 ай бұрын
I ran across a 4-yr-old Ragusea clip where a local chef used brioche buns, pressed with a brick, for grilled cheese and I've been loving that.
@ItsMrBozToYou
@ItsMrBozToYou 5 ай бұрын
I like smashing the bread down after dropping in the pan, and then adding a lid for extra gooey cheese. There's so many great methods out there!
@michaelsalmon6436
@michaelsalmon6436 5 ай бұрын
Agree! Brioche is my favorite grilled cheese bun! (I confess to maybe adding an additional hunk of salted butter to my bun before the grilling, and I also confess to the use of a bacon weight to flatten the brioche bun!). Happy Cooking!
@Checkmate1138
@Checkmate1138 5 ай бұрын
Adam Ragusea?
@dk_c2563
@dk_c2563 5 ай бұрын
Kenji, you left out my all time favorite tip from you: hitting the warmed bread with a sliced piece of garlic. It’s why I like you tho. Never a right way to do something. Cheers.
@alisonwarmerdam-scott5602
@alisonwarmerdam-scott5602 5 ай бұрын
I absolutely love your videos, you use evidence based practice and I’m so here for it. I have become a more efficient cook in a short time of watching how you navigate the kitchen and a more efficient cook will become a more prolific cook. You are an excellent teacher. I also appreciate that your videos don’t feel overproduced making them feel so approachable. No notes, great vids thanks for sharing!
@DinsFlame
@DinsFlame 5 ай бұрын
I absolutely love this series paired with the podcast. Kenji and Serious Eats will always be my first stop for anything I want to cook and/or experiment with
@TamarLitvot
@TamarLitvot 5 ай бұрын
Because of the podcast, I finally was able to make a turkey meatloaf (Deb's) that I liked. All previous ones have been failures. I never would have discovered it if it weren't for the podcast (though I added greens to mine which I loved).
@LittIegator
@LittIegator 5 ай бұрын
If I'm doing it with regular sandwich bread, I microwave the assembled sandwich ~20 seconds before buttering or grilling it. The rehydrated starches make the bread chewier at the end, and it helps the cheese get a head start at melting. Then, grill it to get a hard, crunchy surface. The combination of crunchy surface with chewy bread is great. I also do this when making toast.
@camcharlton4832
@camcharlton4832 5 ай бұрын
Toasting the inside!?! Salt in the pan!?! What black magic and wizardry is this? Just tried and wow, I didn't think the humble cheese toasted sandwich could be improved by such a margin. Love it.
@ShrednESP
@ShrednESP 5 ай бұрын
I started toasting the inside after I saw you grilled cheese recipe years ago. Makes a huge difference. I like using mayo on as apposed to butter but I do add a little butter for flavor.
@clubmate12
@clubmate12 5 ай бұрын
For those who don't know, frico is a traditional dish from a North-Italian region at the border with Slovenia. It's similar to a rosti, and it's made with high fat cheese, usually Montasio. I like Deb's idea of using the name frico for this cheese crust effect on the sandwich. In fact I wonder if Montasio could actually be the best cheese to use for Deb's recipe. And just like the actual frico, I agree that onions would be a great addition.
@nolansykinsley3734
@nolansykinsley3734 5 ай бұрын
Clarified butter is best for grilled cheese, it doesn't have the moisture so doesn't collapse the sandwich plus I infuse it with chili flakes and strain it for extra flavor.
@simonflaherty7533
@simonflaherty7533 5 ай бұрын
My standard cheese toastie/grilled cheese is a hybrid of these two. It's pretty much Kenji's method most of the way (I'm shocked to learn that not everyone toasts the insides of the bread before putting the cheese in!!), but right when it's almost done: an extra little bit of butter, throw a load of fine grated parmesan in, bread back down. The parmesan crusts up in about 15 seconds and give you both the buttery crusty bread and the added cheese layer...
@joelcurtis562
@joelcurtis562 5 ай бұрын
"If you happen to have a Control Freak" Control Freak costs $1500. I do not happen to have one lol. Great video, can't wait to listen to the pod.
@MichaelSm1298
@MichaelSm1298 5 ай бұрын
lol I looked it up and closed it very quickly after seeing the price
@egress8445
@egress8445 5 ай бұрын
I love the cheese crust, but i like to fry the outside of my sandwich normally first and THEN fry the cheese onto it. Best of both worlds
@charliebooth4232
@charliebooth4232 5 ай бұрын
I truly love how butter, bread and cheese as a combination becomes this complex for a video. So much thought, keep it up Kenji! Love it man
@LongbranchOlivetti
@LongbranchOlivetti 5 ай бұрын
The king of all bread/cheese variations is Welsh Rarebit. Nothing comes close.
@joshmore7175
@joshmore7175 5 ай бұрын
Specifically, Gary Rhodes recipe for rarebit. It's the absolute best
@Anvekeen
@Anvekeen 5 ай бұрын
​@@joshmore7175 ooooh I gotta check that out
@bennickerson9581
@bennickerson9581 5 ай бұрын
You and Deb just elevated my grilled cheese game! Thanks!
@thomasyoung5452
@thomasyoung5452 5 ай бұрын
Finally! Someone puts the butter in the pan. So much easier than buttering the bread. After the first flip I go into a 350-400 F oven for 3-4 minutes. Guarantees completely melted cheese. Anyone else?
@TheSchafer78
@TheSchafer78 5 ай бұрын
I think this is correct. I do this same technique at work when people request a grilled cheese. Though my mom always buttered her bread before hitting the pan. I've found when you butter before you get a richer more butter friend thing, otherwise it's more of a true toast cause less fat on the bread overall
@michaelsalmon6436
@michaelsalmon6436 5 ай бұрын
I disagree. You have proposed to dishonor the legend of the Grilled Cheese with some kind of baked cheese hybrid. If you are having a problem melting butter, check out the use of a weight (bricks from the landscape can work) and cook in pre-heated cast iron, IMO!
@thomasyoung5452
@thomasyoung5452 5 ай бұрын
@@michaelsalmon6436 I prefer to call it the pan-roasted cheese sandwich. 😉 I suppose you could just put a lid on the skillet to replicate the bowl diners cover them with to ‘bake’ it. Don’t care for the weight, I like my sammy original sized. Cheers!
@gluteusguttony332
@gluteusguttony332 5 ай бұрын
My mother would make a factory line of grilled cheese for her 5 hungry hippos.. this leads to her cutting the sandwich into thirds. I continue this tradition even when cooking for myself. The steps are perfect for dipping into the tomato soup..!
@FightingIrishFan91
@FightingIrishFan91 5 ай бұрын
Sauerkraut on grilled cheese = my favorite
@cheef825
@cheef825 5 ай бұрын
Gotta be stir fried kimchi for me
@TamarLitvot
@TamarLitvot 5 ай бұрын
@@joe8133 I was thinking pickles on the sourdough version when he said it needs a filling. Maybe sweet ones for that sandwich though I much prefer sour ones.
@Shiyaku93
@Shiyaku93 5 ай бұрын
Yessir ​@@cheef825
@WyattUTFT
@WyattUTFT 5 ай бұрын
@@cheef825 kimchi grilled cheese with some sharp cheddar mixed in is so good
@garywarren8404
@garywarren8404 5 ай бұрын
I like Blue Plate Mayo spread on the bread to be toasted instead of butter. Also some Italian grated cheese on the outside to give that additional contrast and umami. Love seeing variations to enlighten a simple sandwich to greater heights. Thank you!
@metaxaanabeer
@metaxaanabeer 5 ай бұрын
Lay some chop stick train tracks on your plate and set your grilled cheese sandwich on them. That bottom side remains crispy, doesn't steam itself into soggy territory.
@petercarparelli
@petercarparelli 5 ай бұрын
The video I didn't know I needed, or deserved. Thank you Kenji, you are a god.
@michaelsalmon6436
@michaelsalmon6436 5 ай бұрын
Hi Kenji! I am a big fan of your great work on seriouseats! Congrats on your success. Well deserved! I am happy to subscribe to your channel. Happy Cooking!
@CptVein
@CptVein 5 ай бұрын
omg yes! I ''discovered'' toasting the inside of my grilled cheese and it's a game changer. So much crisps.
@WastrelWay
@WastrelWay 5 ай бұрын
Yep, I'm going to do that from now on. I put a little mayonnaise on the inside, too. Maybe that's another bad habit.
@OriginalGabriel
@OriginalGabriel 5 ай бұрын
Ever since I was a kid, I've been adding parmesan (from the can) to the outside (after buttering) in order to get the crispy bits on the outside, and I'll often add room temp mustard (to the inside) if I'm wanting a bit more tang
@spokaneman7327
@spokaneman7327 5 ай бұрын
There’s a great opportunity to combine two great methods. I’ve been doing the crust on the outside for a few years. I toast on one side, flip, add cheese to the toasted side, flip, add cheese, flip. I love the idea of toasting both sides of the bread. Next level!
@sodamanthegr8
@sodamanthegr8 5 ай бұрын
You have to cut the sandwich in half diagonally, however, you also should cut it at a 45 degree angle on the way down. This exposes more of the sandwich interior and exposes the innards more. It gives the impression of more meat on the sandwich if there is any. Learned this from Chef John who learned it from Bobby Flay.
@ktrizzle6098
@ktrizzle6098 5 ай бұрын
Really cool how there are new tips and tricks to learn about something even as simple as a grilled cheese. We're definitely going to try salting the pan and the inner fry next time we make ours!
@mortmortmort8908
@mortmortmort8908 2 ай бұрын
The angular slices are good for dipping too, especially if you were using something closer in size to a ramekin for your soup or other grilled cheese dips.
@eddyleonelaldana7248
@eddyleonelaldana7248 5 ай бұрын
that double bite at the end got me so hype. loved the look of your grilled cheese!!
@jjdawg9918
@jjdawg9918 5 ай бұрын
Toasting the inside is brilliant! I add an ever so tiny schmear(literately 2 drops) of yellow mustard to one side of my bread. That little bit of acidity and spice seems to balance out the richness of the cheese and butter.
@tmtb80
@tmtb80 5 ай бұрын
I agree with your Point of Entry
@tomhorsley6566
@tomhorsley6566 5 ай бұрын
My best grilled cheese is made in my air fryer. Once I made a bad one as an experiment, then got the time and temperature adjusted correctly, they come out perfect every time.
@Billy123bobzzz
@Billy123bobzzz 3 ай бұрын
Excellent job! We follow your technique and have added salt to the butter and it's amazing, thank you! My wife asked me to tell you that she took it up another notch by adding oregano to add another layer of flavor, Try It!
@stephaniemoore-fuller9082
@stephaniemoore-fuller9082 5 ай бұрын
The best grilled cheese I ever had was in Ann Arbor, MI. There used to be a little neighborhood market that carried just the absolute basic groceries, candy for the kids in the local school, and in the back, they made lunches and dinners to go. They used soft white bread from Zingerman's Bakehouse, I don't know what kind of cheese, and you could have it with or without tomato slices. I always picked with the tomato. Then one day, I asked if they had any greens they could put on it. I was thinking something like arugula. But since I said "greens" and they often cooked Swiss chard and kale for some of their other dishes, they put them on the sandwich. I would have never thought of that, but it was SO GOOD that from then on that's how I ordered it!!
@lisahahn173
@lisahahn173 5 ай бұрын
I'm a huge fan of grated cheese for a riff on the grilled cheese sandwich. I think a 3-4 cheese blend is the way to go. YUM, just yum!
@trolltaker
@trolltaker 5 ай бұрын
I never thought I'd see a "recipe" for grilled cheese! I'm making one now, trying your double-toasting method. I often use the "frico crust" method, but I put the cheese in the pan AFTER grilling the bread, so it isn't lacking the toasted flavor. The frico is just the final step.
@kevinmonahan7597
@kevinmonahan7597 4 ай бұрын
Watched this a few weeks ago. Had to come back - I just tried the "Don't Let the Sun Go Down On Me" trick and I'll be darned. It was absolutely perfect!
@GlcB
@GlcB 5 ай бұрын
Triangles always taste better
@242sighting
@242sighting 5 ай бұрын
I recently started mixing a bit of pesto and some dried jalapeno flakes into my cheese mixture. It's amazing.
@GuerrillaChe
@GuerrillaChe 5 ай бұрын
I used to always cut them in half but since I heard you say to cut them on an angle I'll never go back, imo the most important factor in the angled cut is a more a satisfying topping to crust/bread ratio with each bite. Presentation is also better (larger cheese pulls like you pointed out).
@graver2570
@graver2570 5 ай бұрын
I butter the bread first like Deb's but I use I little trick to make it a bit easier; Butter the bread and then lay each slice on top of each other with the buttered sides touching each other. Pop the cheese on the top slice and then when it's time to put it in the pan, lift the top slice off, put it in the pan and then put the remaining slice on top of the slice in the pan. That way they're both buttered when they go in.
@tinkdnuos
@tinkdnuos 5 ай бұрын
You can totally do the frico layer at the end, after the bread's toasted in the pan. I do it all the time at home; after the first flip, put the cheese on the warm top and it'll start to melt right away. Then when the bottom is golden brown, flip it back, cheese the "new" top, wait for it to melt in, and the bottom frico will be crispy in a minute or two. Then just flip it back, 2 minutes and done. Best of both worlds!
@paulhsommer
@paulhsommer 5 ай бұрын
Our go to method: Any kind of bread (as long as it is cut thin) Butter in the pan A little mayo inside on both sides Sharp cheddar slices Crisp apple slices (not necessarily pealed) under the cheese Cut as a triangle Grill on first side Add more butter, flip and finish Yum I will try grilling the insides of the bread next time.
@maxh4195
@maxh4195 5 ай бұрын
I sprinkle salt and MSG which is awesome. I also think toasting both sides of the bread is key. Growing up I always cut my grilled cheese like Deb because it can make it a little easier to get a good dip/scoop of soup.
@isabelab6851
@isabelab6851 5 ай бұрын
Totally agree on diagonal cut. Also, American cheese slice with other cheeses is my go to! From now on, I will need to try this song…love it and now will also be my grilled cheese song
@leeball4
@leeball4 5 ай бұрын
My wife was baking bread at Whole Foods for a bit and she would bring home a fresh loaf of Semolina bread with the sesame seeds on top and sliced thick. I'd use it to make us grilled cheese on the flat top with american cheese, bacon and fresh grilled tomato slices. Tastes so good enjoying it out back on a cool fall evening, it's like a creamy tomato soup in sandwich form. mmmmmm...
@9ramthebuffs9
@9ramthebuffs9 5 ай бұрын
I made a sourdough grilled cheese with spiral ham last night, A+. 1 slice velveeta, 1 slice swiss with plenty of mayo on the inside to keep everything loose. Dipped in the standard campbells tomato soup.
@tatersalad76
@tatersalad76 5 ай бұрын
I love the classic bacon and heirloom tomato in my grilled cheese with a pickle. Absolute peak cheese for grilled cheese is Cooper Sharp (it's a blended American and Cheddar combo)
@MartinDoudoroffLLC
@MartinDoudoroffLLC 5 ай бұрын
Triangles FTW. All these are good versions. When I’m feeling more ambitious, I love making Ruth Reichl’s grilled cheese with the mayo and parm on the outside, and loads of alliums included inside.
@jadams1033
@jadams1033 5 ай бұрын
Grilled Cheese with caramelized onion and pickles cut into triangles is my favorite
@TamarLitvot
@TamarLitvot 5 ай бұрын
Sounds yummy!
@ze_ep
@ze_ep 5 ай бұрын
Caramelized onion (or even just raw sweet red onion) always puts it over the top, just the perfect balance for the salty cheese.
@crownwire7468
@crownwire7468 5 ай бұрын
Ramsay will never live that grilled cheese down.
@provi480
@provi480 5 ай бұрын
I have been making grilled cheese with the frico crust for a while now and I've found there is no need to skip toasting the outside of the bread. You can simply toast the outside and then create the frico crust because it takes very little time.
@dennis1954
@dennis1954 5 ай бұрын
I grate my Tillamook Cheddar from the block. Somewhere I heard some bagged shredded has a coating so it doesn’t stick together. I find the fresher newly grated cheese melts batter. I also think it tastes better too. I cut mine in the half shortest dimension.
@douga874
@douga874 5 ай бұрын
I would be curious to see how these taste with mayo used in place of butter...Alton Brown method...I've been doing bread with mayo instead of butter to grill for a few years now and I really think it's superior. Good browning and salt flavors.
@jjstone1645
@jjstone1645 5 ай бұрын
Mayo gives the better browning and crunch but butter gives a better flavor. I spread a thin cover of Mayo onto the exterior and then do butter in a pan.
@RealBradMiller
@RealBradMiller 4 ай бұрын
8:42 I learned to sprits water into the hot pan just at the end and then cover for thirty seconds, the cheese becomes ooey gooey!! It also steams the inside of the bread, but the crust stays crispy! Cheers, beautiful sammiches!!
@Gigi-fv9ky
@Gigi-fv9ky 5 ай бұрын
I do the frico cheese on the outside, too, for crispiness, and I melt the butter in the pan and just coat both sides in it first, too, but what I do differently is instead of American cheese, I add some pimento cheese (Trader Joe’s) for the creaminess and extra cheesiness to the sliced cheese inside. Maybe pimento cheese is a southern thing, my Mama Rosie always had pimento cheese on hand for sandwiches or putting on celery sticks. It’s great dipped in Trader Joe’s tomato soup but if I am not dipping it, I often add sliced tomato.
@etherdog
@etherdog 5 ай бұрын
Kenji, first of all I am chuffed that you and Deb went with Radiotopia for your podcast. Second, like you, I've been using a variety of cheeses in grilled cheese for the last 40 years because it makes the flavour so much more interesting. A bit of bleu is particularly intriguing. I was kinda shocked you gave Deb such a hard time for cutting her sandwich the way she wanted since you are always the voice of doing it the way that suits the person (even though I'm guilty of iconoclasm, too, and as Chef John says, "pointy food tastes better"). Anyway, thanks so much for sharing what you have learned--it has made me a better cook and a better person, too.
@glossaria2
@glossaria2 5 ай бұрын
Oooh. I like the idea of toasting the inside. I use olive oil mayo instead of butter on the outside of my bread. It makes a crisper crust, and adds a nice bit of zing to it.
@moussaka
@moussaka 5 ай бұрын
Whenever I've made a cheese crust, I've toasted the bread with butter/mayo like normal and on flip I'll add the cheese to the pan so the already toasted side gets an additional layer of cheese, if that makes sense. Requires a few more flips, but get the best of both worlds. That being said, I agree with you about the greasiness and it's not my preferred way, but good once and a while!
@danielhakimi
@danielhakimi 5 ай бұрын
You can make a frico grilled cheese by making a regular grilled cheese, browning both sides of the bread, putting cheese on top, flipping, putting cheese on top, and then flipping. That way, the bread gets browned, the butter goes inside of the cheese layer, and if your pan has any degree of nonstickitude, the frico still releases just fine without the butter stuck outside of it.
@david_99999
@david_99999 5 ай бұрын
My dad always made grilled cheese and peanut butter sandwiches growing up. Still my favorite unlikely combo.
@aarzu10
@aarzu10 5 ай бұрын
We used to use diluted mayo instead of butter on our grilled cheese food truck. Better browning, same unctuous texture as butter.
@Fresh4
@Fresh4 5 ай бұрын
I find that I kinda do a combination of these two. Regular sandwich bread because that's what's handy, melt butter into the pan and toast both sides of the sandwich until just lightly golden and then add a layer of cheese to crisp up on both sides. Alleviates the grease layer and provides a toasty crunchy cheesy bite. The outer cheese layer always reminds me of Cheez-it lol.
@ratticus
@ratticus 5 ай бұрын
Team Triangle for sure. Even before I was onboard with the triangle and cut in rectangular halves, it was always to make long rectangles, not short ones!
@purplecircle7413
@purplecircle7413 5 ай бұрын
Bros cheese geometry when placing those slices was immaculate. The calculations for maximal cheese diversity per bite but maintaining an even amount of cheese in every bite
@spodvoll
@spodvoll 5 ай бұрын
Definitely cut diagonally. Instead of spreading butter on the bread, I spread mayo with a brush. It's easier and produces identical results. And the best bread to use is seedless rye.
@beneverard7430
@beneverard7430 5 ай бұрын
On a recent episode of the Lateral podcast (by Tom Scott) someone described it as the "non-crusty hypotenuse" when cutting on a diagonal 🙂
@KurtisRader
@KurtisRader 5 ай бұрын
I used to be in the "butter the bread" camp since I love butter. But I have since found that using mayonnaise for the browning agent is superior and does not adversely affect the taste unless you are using "American" cheese in the interior (in which case you probably don't care very much about the result).
@lauragiletti
@lauragiletti 5 ай бұрын
I love salting the butter. It tastes great when you’re making eggs too. I need to try the frico and toast the inside ideas.
@roosterthelacs
@roosterthelacs 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for your lovely compliment. I hope my recipe was able to help you in your cooking.
@patrickcallahan2210
@patrickcallahan2210 5 ай бұрын
Grill both sides of the bread, then add the outer cheese crust on a second outside grilling. So grill 6 sides of bread! Once inside and twice outside (once with just butter, and once with cheese.) Use something sharp for the outside because you want it to get shatteringly crisp and a lower moisture cheese splits faster preventing the sogging of the butter crisped underlayer.
@loliz76
@loliz76 5 ай бұрын
A personal way I finish my grilled cheeses is when I take it out of the pan I flip it and instantly sprinkle a little bit of garlic powder on the bubbling butter on the bread. Gives that beautiful american garlic flavour.
@pyzikscott
@pyzikscott 5 ай бұрын
Spreadable butter is a classic technique. Love salting the pan. How about grating the butter to take off the chill? I do that when buttering pans.
@kryst5062
@kryst5062 5 ай бұрын
I believe there was a study more than 7 years ago that found cutting sandwiches in triangles was visually more appealing. Tasters preferred the triangle shaped ones over the square ones (even though they are the same sandwich). I tested this on my nephew, who preferred my egg sandwiches (which were cut in triangles) over his dad's sandwiches, which were always cut in squares.
@LucasTheDrgn
@LucasTheDrgn 5 ай бұрын
I'm so glad that I'm not the only freako to put cheese on the outside as well! My personal choice for how to do it is to toast the bread a bit on both sides, THEN add the cheddar and toast both sides. I also like to use a microplane for the cheddar, it melts so easily that I sometimes even manage to get a pretty decent cheese pull! Another way I get past the greasy problem is an idea I picked up from my boyfriend, you make the grilled cheese like normal but then cut it into bite-sized chunks (I do 3 cuts in both directions for generic grocery store sandwich bread for 16 total bits) and dump them all into a bowl of tomato soup like croutons! I've seen some takes that you should give them a bake in the oven to get a real crunchy crouton experience, but I think at that point we're too far from how simple and easy a grilled cheese is supposed to be. Great video though, I'll definitely have to try salting my pan and toasting both sides! It DOES always feel a bit under-seasoned, and flaky salt is always a nice easy way to get some _heterogeneity_ in there
@danny4062
@danny4062 5 ай бұрын
I like all grilled cheese, but favorite bread is shokupan. When I make a loaf we always have grilled cheese and egg salad sandos.
@jambrown1397
@jambrown1397 5 ай бұрын
I like to cover the pan on its first side. It essentially steams the cheese to be perfectly melt and then leaving it off on the second side prevents it from getting soggy.
@baconmcwaffles3604
@baconmcwaffles3604 5 ай бұрын
I've never made grilled cheese with Japanese milk bread but I would imagine that would be top tier bread selection. I will try that and I def agree with the diagonal cut and toasting the inside of the bread too!
@polythewicked
@polythewicked 5 ай бұрын
Definitely try it with milk bread! I make my own and it’s one of my favorite breads for a grilled cheese.
@VeretenoVids
@VeretenoVids 5 ай бұрын
I do a little frico on my grilled cheese, but I do it when the base sandwich is almost done, i.e. the bread on both sides is toasted and the cheese inside has started to melt. And I use parm for it. Do love a good sourdough for grilled cheese.
@grantcookcook
@grantcookcook 5 ай бұрын
I laughed out loud alone in my kitchen when Kenji whipped out ELTON AND GEORGE to time his cook
@dmcg2511
@dmcg2511 5 ай бұрын
Haha he triggered my HomePod 3 times during this!
@lauracooper3076
@lauracooper3076 5 ай бұрын
Definitely need an acute angle for dipping into hot sauce or tomato soup. For small hands, cut into a parallelogram.
@caseystrawn3228
@caseystrawn3228 5 ай бұрын
Never thought about utilizing the salt, definitely going to try that. Grilled cheese is just a stupid simple thing that's always delicious. I prefer using pepper jack and pairing it with a nice tomato soup. Never done me wrong. Thanks for some tips!
@lemadfab
@lemadfab 5 ай бұрын
I have been doing kenji’s recipe without knowing it was his. I feel validated ❤
@JacobGiddensaLaCarte
@JacobGiddensaLaCarte 5 ай бұрын
When I do cheese on the outside I'll toast the outside of the bread first, then add the cheese because like you, I like the bread to be toasty as well. I also like to get the exterior cheese a little bit darker.
@bigbird2451
@bigbird2451 5 ай бұрын
I've had good old Tillamok my whole life. if I recall correctly, I spat out the first Craft Single that I was ever offered as a snack at a friends's house and asked my mom to never bother buying it on my behalf. And I haven't eaten a slice in the fifty years since then. For a grilled cheese I'd tend to go with a mix of Tillamook white cheddar and a good nutty Swiss.
@seanmcdonagh6237
@seanmcdonagh6237 5 ай бұрын
You set my Siri off on my iPad haha
@ks614974
@ks614974 5 ай бұрын
Time to make a grilled cheese
@riuphane
@riuphane 5 ай бұрын
I love to do an "inside out" grilled cheese (thanks Chef John aka Food Wishes). Actually, any grilled sandwich i grill cheese onto the outside as well. Just makes for such an amazing flavor, texture, and experience.
@riuphane
@riuphane 5 ай бұрын
One difference for me is I grill the bread to a light golden brown before giving it the "cheese crust"
@hsuan2323
@hsuan2323 5 ай бұрын
re cut: fingers, ideal for dipping into tom soup. spread mayo on the outside of the bread, the water in the mayo will turn to steam and melt the cheese and the protein from the egg white will cause a Maillard reaction as it browns in the crust.
@alexpeter1129
@alexpeter1129 5 ай бұрын
chef john's inside out grilled cheese got me through many summers of babysitting a bunch of little kids. will try this one out!
@StaffandStormcloud
@StaffandStormcloud 3 ай бұрын
The non diagonal cut, I prefer. More uniform/controllable crust distribution throughout the devouring process
@SRDuly2010
@SRDuly2010 4 сағат бұрын
I pre-toast my bread using the bagel setting so only one side toasts. That becomes the inside of my GC sandwich. But I like the idea of simply frying one side in a little butter. Thx Also, pro tip from thatdudecancook channel, rest your sandwich across a couple chopsticks so you don’t lose the crunchiness on the bottom from the steam
@call_me_ping
@call_me_ping Ай бұрын
kenji hitting us with the best techniques And the tricks: that cheese pull!
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