The Redhead Onscreen | How We Respond To Difference

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3 жыл бұрын

Redheads onscreen have long fallen into two camps: fetishized or ostracized. Typically, this dividing line comes down to gender. Redheaded women, like Jessica Rabbit, are portrayed as hyper-sexual vixens; while redheaded men, like Napoleon Dynamite, are presented as undesirable outcasts. These narrow portrayals put redhead characters into limiting boxes that can be othering and even dehumanizing.
Because red is the rarest hair color, the redhead has historically been used as a visual symbol of differentness. Digging deeper into onscreen portrayals of redheads, we can better understand our culture’s responses to difference in general. Moreover, this ostracization-and-fetishization dichotomy exposes how our prejudices can manifest in media.
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@Jobe-13
@Jobe-13 3 жыл бұрын
In conclusion, people will find *ANY* reason to discriminate each other.
@Oversurge_
@Oversurge_ 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. It's called tribalism. Read up on it.
@Jobe-13
@Jobe-13 3 жыл бұрын
@@Oversurge_ Indeed
@lalacoe8678
@lalacoe8678 3 жыл бұрын
It's human nature
@RamonaFlowers420
@RamonaFlowers420 3 жыл бұрын
Next? It'll be eye color.
@alexisguiza9353
@alexisguiza9353 3 жыл бұрын
Very true, random people call my husband Red, because he's a redhead instead of just saying sir or something else, like you should normally do. People joke about how he sticks out in a crowd and this does bother him and me. I love my husband and I absolutely love his red hair as well. People need to be more kind, even if they think they are harmlessly joking with someone, those words do hurt.
@24lilychick
@24lilychick 3 жыл бұрын
Jessica's 'hymen' healing after everytime she's had sex, because of her vampire healing abilities, has to be one of the most stupidest things a male author has done.
@Rs-rq9fd
@Rs-rq9fd 3 жыл бұрын
💯💯💯
@kimifw58
@kimifw58 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The only way to restore a woman's virginity is to erase her memories of sex. Which is creepy.
@nessyness5447
@nessyness5447 3 жыл бұрын
Well , some women still have their hymen even after given birth because it just stretches but not necessarily " breaks" and given her healing powers , it does makes sense...but that would not make her a virgin, just someone with the type hymen that remains.
@nessyness5447
@nessyness5447 3 жыл бұрын
Also the tv show is based in books writen by a woman, not sure if the hymen thing is in the books too, but maybe is not a case of "men writing women" this time.
@kimifw58
@kimifw58 3 жыл бұрын
@@nessyness5447 Yeah, this might be a case of female writers not knowing how their own bodies work, which is unfortunately common.
@hannahbee264
@hannahbee264 3 жыл бұрын
Male redheads are handsome and no one can convince me otherwise.
@chickofmusic001
@chickofmusic001 3 жыл бұрын
Period
@ManiaMac1613
@ManiaMac1613 3 жыл бұрын
Male redhead here; you have no earthly idea how good it feels to hear people say that
@idkidc4594
@idkidc4594 3 жыл бұрын
I always found them attractive, idk why people are so against them
@jennyrodriguez8323
@jennyrodriguez8323 3 жыл бұрын
@@ManiaMac1613 Definitely, I think it's a beautiful hair color, I love getting it from time to time but it's kinda expensive to maintain, I think it looks really lively and animated.
@wutanglza1235
@wutanglza1235 3 жыл бұрын
So handsome! I love a lot of male redheads 🥰
@emilygray6786
@emilygray6786 3 жыл бұрын
I think that Anne Shirley deserves a shoutout. She can be fiery and headstrong, but she learns and grows as a person.
@michelleshevchenko2482
@michelleshevchenko2482 3 жыл бұрын
Just finished watching the Kevin Sullivan films yesterday and was entirely expecting for Anne to be mentioned
@gcooper642
@gcooper642 3 жыл бұрын
She doesn't fit the video narrative. She hated her hair and mentioned it in a negative light a lot and got made fun of for it.
@trinaq
@trinaq 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, Anne is definitely a passionate, Fiery Redhead, and Gilbert is instantly smitten with her from their very first meeting.
@alisonlevity
@alisonlevity 3 жыл бұрын
She has serious orphan trauma.
@shannernanner
@shannernanner 3 жыл бұрын
@@gcooper642 She learns to like it as she gets older, she didn’t like it because of prejudice
@brandonstarr983
@brandonstarr983 3 жыл бұрын
Ariel was designed as a blonde, but they changed it later to avoid being too close to “Splash.” This may help explain why her story feels less like a redhead story.
@kimifw58
@kimifw58 3 жыл бұрын
I figured it was because they already had two blonde princesses.
@indy-fs6de
@indy-fs6de 3 жыл бұрын
But doesn't Ariel's red hair further her being othered from the other mer people as an oddball?
@ango8466
@ango8466 3 жыл бұрын
@Mary Moon Greek * And I like this theory but I think Ariel is Danish?
@princessmanitari4993
@princessmanitari4993 3 жыл бұрын
@@ango8466 she is, it's written by hans christian anderson, note; he isn't a fairytale writer from tradition, he's a writer. which makes his stories generally darker or deeper then something like red riding hood that wants to tell a lesson, the little mermaid is not meant to be teaching a lesson.
@kate2create738
@kate2create738 3 жыл бұрын
The Disney artists went with red hair because red stands out the best when it came to contrasting the deep sea background, burnette and blondes didn't stand out as well.
@malon-
@malon- 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe its just me but I never thought of Ron as a loser. If he fits into a stereotype, I would think of the funny best friend or something. I mean, Ron was brave (despite his fear of spiders) and had a decent amount of female attention later in the books. Looking at the rest of his red-headed family, they were all very different. Most of his brothers were considered very funny or cool guys actually.
@user-nv2op8tr8u
@user-nv2op8tr8u 3 жыл бұрын
Book Ron was never a loser. Film Ron, though... Ironically, book Ginny fits into her stereotype well, while her film version... not so much.
@nessyness5447
@nessyness5447 3 жыл бұрын
I would say percy is more the stereotype.
@ninjanibba4259
@ninjanibba4259 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-nv2op8tr8u film Ron isn't a loser either, in fact in times he gets just as much or more attention than Harry
@malon-
@malon- 3 жыл бұрын
@@nessyness5447 Yes although he is just one of the many brothers :) I think the person coming close to the trope is neville from the first books and luckily he does not have red hair so he is not stereotyped that way
@jenniferariesta6635
@jenniferariesta6635 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-nv2op8tr8u writing on Ginny is bad in the books and movies, worse in the movies cause the acting is weak.
@rw8160
@rw8160 3 жыл бұрын
I never got bullied for my hair until the ginger episode of South Park came out. So, turns out, representation matters.
@salsadip7453
@salsadip7453 3 жыл бұрын
I did, because of “Pumuckl” and Pippi Longstockings. (The later is kind of a role model for kids tho, not comparable to the SP episode ) And I think the bullying happend due to jealousy and lousy parenting. For me, people that were not blond/ brown haired and white skinned were just people. For the majority of the class it was something odd. There were 3 kids that got bullied, the Turkish boy, the half-Chinese boy and me, the redhead 🤦
@ravenclawthestral3964
@ravenclawthestral3964 3 жыл бұрын
And the whole ‘ranga’ thing got so much popular after the Chris Lilley show.
@eldron29-a54
@eldron29-a54 3 жыл бұрын
South Park is a master on creating problems where there were none. Or even worse, turning really bad problems into social cataclysm (aka, transphobia in the show, which make transphobes even more entitled).
@lesliewheeler7071
@lesliewheeler7071 3 жыл бұрын
@@salsadip7453 😡 infuriating! Your right; horrible parenting and ignorance.
@Fatelvis2
@Fatelvis2 2 жыл бұрын
didn't Axel Rose Hamish(and others) from brave heart and Tormund Giantsbane from GOT kind of even it out
@Rosinemmon
@Rosinemmon 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda wish they mentioned Anne of Green Gables in this video. She's one of the most iconic redheads in literature but she was also insecure about her red hair. Also loved the show Anne With An E.
@askatuproductions
@askatuproductions 3 жыл бұрын
Same. I was totally expecting to see her on this video 🤔
@lesliewheeler7071
@lesliewheeler7071 3 жыл бұрын
I love that movie so much😍. I've always loved red hair, so the stereotype confuses me and makes me angry. Also! Anne was always beautiful.
@alim.9801
@alim.9801 2 жыл бұрын
I loved reading those books when I was little, I always had a big imagination and also didn't grow up with much so I really related to her 🥰 I gotta watch the show!
@azothothdestroyerofworlds1910
@azothothdestroyerofworlds1910 2 жыл бұрын
It was more about the archetype stereotyping and deliberate misrepresentation of redhead masculinity, dominance and character that is consistently being reinforced the created negative image of redheaded men that a lot of other jealous men who have motive for doing so have seemingly tried to reinforce through advertisement and media portrayals. It also outlines by contrast the disproportionately positive image that is presented of redheaded women, and so when considering the disparity in portrayal it is clear for anyone to see that is impartial enough to realise what is going on, that would seems deliberately done by design so as to create a divide between redheaded women and men, making redheaded men appear far more undesirable to redheaded women, which in turn due to their recessive nature would mean they are also being targeted through various campaigns that promote them to mix to further decline into irrelevance over successive generations. It seems to be done so as to discourage redheaded couples forming as well, as there were many more redheaded couples in previous generations, but combining these portrayals with the racially targeted promotion in the dating culture of today, seem to create an environment that openly discourage redheads from being with each other, despite being a truly rare variety of people. Which only makes it all the more eerie why this is being done to them as a group.
@jasminnielsen6866
@jasminnielsen6866 2 жыл бұрын
It’s my favorite show ever and I have never found anyone more relatable then Anne with an e
@mariamibukia2355
@mariamibukia2355 3 жыл бұрын
Its crazy how people find any way to hate on or creep on a person. Like... hair colour really?
@Skittenmeow
@Skittenmeow 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. To the extent that I started coloring my hair from age 15 and hid my natural colour until in my 30s. People treated me so differently when I "wasn't" a redhead; and now that I'm a redhead again it's noticeable and yeah - creepy. But I'm older and more comfortable with myself so it doesn't hit so hard. And I'm about as white as can be, with so much privilege because of that, so no idea what it would be like to be another race gracing discrimination and intergenerational trauma. My "difference" could be easily hidden 😔
@CatHasOpinions734
@CatHasOpinions734 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, it makes about as much sense as discriminating based on hair texture, but that hasn't stopped people from being ridiculous about black folks hair.
@ThisBlackFreeSpeeDeemedHarmful
@ThisBlackFreeSpeeDeemedHarmful 3 жыл бұрын
I love that in this day and age, people are still coming up with black people's hair is "distracting". What are you? A squirrel?🤦🏻‍♂️
@PatrickLofstrom
@PatrickLofstrom 3 жыл бұрын
Hate itself doesn't discriminate, any little thing is fair game!
@Mazou-tj4ne
@Mazou-tj4ne 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen worse, trust me! But man, people just love to discriminate!
@ECL28E
@ECL28E 3 жыл бұрын
Hal from Megamind is an interesting case. On one hand, he's part of a long line of vilified red-haired male characters. On the other, he's also symbolic of male-entitlement and "incel-culture"
@handsoaphandsoap
@handsoaphandsoap 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, I don’t think the two are mutually exclusive. The creators probably made the subconscious choice to make the loser incel nerd guy a redhaired guy, because redhaired men in media have become shorthand for that type of personality. It’s an unfortunate choice in character design.
@alim.9801
@alim.9801 2 жыл бұрын
Damn I really need to see that movie
@WildShiversASMR
@WildShiversASMR 3 жыл бұрын
Can we just talk about how the Weasley twins were major teenage girls’ crushes though? Those two were always cute!
@jennyformica4767
@jennyformica4767 2 жыл бұрын
And yet they didn’t cast real redheads in the role
@cazbutterfly4229
@cazbutterfly4229 2 жыл бұрын
okay? we’re still getting shit tho?
@Luna-ry8lv
@Luna-ry8lv 2 жыл бұрын
@@cazbutterfly4229 they just said a positive thing..
@alim.9801
@alim.9801 2 жыл бұрын
They make 2 outta 3 of my fave Harry Potter characters!!! The third is Lupin I find him so underrated and complex
@bellaknightR597
@bellaknightR597 2 жыл бұрын
@@jennyformica4767 wait, the red hair isn't real?
@ManiaMac1613
@ManiaMac1613 3 жыл бұрын
Male gingers have some of the worst representation in fiction. We're LUCKY to see a goofy friend or comic relief side character who's ginger. Ginger main characters or gingers who are written to be desirable are exceedingly rare. I can think of less than half a dozen that I've seen personally.
@sheltertwo7957
@sheltertwo7957 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite male fingers is Ian Gallagher from Shameless. Great character who doesn’t fall into the goofy friend/comic relief role! He was given so much depth & complexity. He had me bawling my eyes out at one point lol. I wish there was more of that in movies & tv!
@ManiaMac1613
@ManiaMac1613 3 жыл бұрын
@@sheltertwo7957 Yeah, me too
@ninjanibba4259
@ninjanibba4259 3 жыл бұрын
So Ron is just nothing huh?
@pat0652
@pat0652 3 жыл бұрын
Although not fiction, you need to watch Band of Brothers.
@CatHasOpinions734
@CatHasOpinions734 3 жыл бұрын
@@ninjanibba4259 Eh, I wouldn't say Ron's written to be particularly desirable. Friendly, and better in the books than in the films, but not particularly desirable. Now Bill Weasley, who's described as having long red hair and an earring and who's hot enough that the hard-to-impress Fleur seeks out "private lessons" on English from him, he's a really great counterexample.
@heycheno9310
@heycheno9310 3 жыл бұрын
I never understood why redheads were so discriminated in European/US cultures. I personally think ginger hair is so pretty.
@nanalove3819
@nanalove3819 3 жыл бұрын
I think it must be linked to an old catholic thing a long time ago, when redhead could be demonized. In particular in women (maybe because they were also sexualized, and sex and Church are not friends). During witch hunts, there were gingers who were killed because people believed they didn't have a soul. That's crazy. Now people completely forgotten the religious thing, but somehow, the discrimination finds a way to perpetuate in collective unconscious, though in another form (thanksfully we don't kill people for their hair color now).
@solheinroth13
@solheinroth13 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with Disney is that they don't create more inclusive characters, they go for the easy road and just change races of their established characters. They KNOW the actors are gonna get hate, they want that scandal...because it benefits them, more "promotion" for their live actions that no one wants. Yet, they can't create NEW characters of different backgrounds and races. Disney isn't an ally, they are just marketing experts
@YowaneHakuu
@YowaneHakuu 3 жыл бұрын
Disney just rides the wave of 'wokeness', ofc they -get off- want the scandal, it's sad really
@B-Mag
@B-Mag 3 жыл бұрын
The entertainment industry as a whole sacrifices fidelity to the source material for the sake of doing the bare minimum in terms of representation and nobody wins for it
@TheBlkKat
@TheBlkKat 3 жыл бұрын
You expect a company that has largely relied on retelling existing stories to create an original character and story?
@caitlinconnelly5347
@caitlinconnelly5347 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, to the first part. I do want to add to the second. They do try to show some diversity in their films. We have Moana, Raya, Aladdin, Mulan, Emperors new Groove, and Prince of the Nile. All of these movies are based in different cultures and tell a story either from source material, Mulan and Aladdin, or created after learning about said culture, Moana. Notice anything missing? Every main ethnic/ continental group is represented except Africans. Only one movie is set in Africa. (I am not counting Prince of the Nile) the lion king. A Hamlet retelling. And then there is A Princess and a frog. A Brother's Grimm story about a spoiled, young princess who makes a promise to a frog. And then tries to kill the frog. Movie Tiana is interchangeable and could also have been played white. And unlike any other movie on the earlier list this movie also has white sympathetic characters. Africans are the only race to not have a disney movie done based on their history, culture, stories, and locations. Instead they race switch white stories and call it diversity. Both with Princess and a Frog and now with the Little Mermaid.
@YowaneHakuu
@YowaneHakuu 3 жыл бұрын
@@caitlinconnelly5347 I was gonna write a long ass comment but got afraid it would be boring haha. Tho it's because of political stuff that does dirty my african brothers, I feel best if they don't ever make a movie based on any of the many beautiful cultures Africa has, I feel insulting we seem to have the need to be validated through these awful monopolizing monster nicknamed Disney. Sure, marketing team sees it fit to "learn about a culture" because "people want to consume that", and surely animators and writers might be well intentioned but they way I see it, we sell our traditions to them and beg them to read them to us, and start taking those movies as if they were our culture, I don't get it.
@trinaq
@trinaq 3 жыл бұрын
In Britain, namely Northern Ireland, Scotland or England, redheads are dismissed as "gingers", regardless of their gender. It's almost hilarious to see them being portrayed as objects of desire in other parts of the world.
@rodan9773
@rodan9773 3 жыл бұрын
In England Red Heads are desired to I know I do.
@ThisBlackFreeSpeeDeemedHarmful
@ThisBlackFreeSpeeDeemedHarmful 3 жыл бұрын
They don't appreciate gorgeous redhead women?
@Angi3_6
@Angi3_6 3 жыл бұрын
I thought “ginger” was already a gender neutral term? Edit: Also, it’s always interesting to see how other cultures view things.
@santiagobauza4257
@santiagobauza4257 3 жыл бұрын
In Argentina redheads are heavily related to bad luck, we've made up the figure of the "colorado mufa".
@rodan9773
@rodan9773 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThisBlackFreeSpeeDeemedHarmful Some are idiots like that.
@monagorgan7288
@monagorgan7288 3 жыл бұрын
has everyone forgotten Thor and Achilles were redheads? in most mythologies, redhaired men are the bravest/strongest of men
@Angi3_6
@Angi3_6 3 жыл бұрын
That’s cool!
@shayleaddison8
@shayleaddison8 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair the two biggest/most popular depictions on screen we have of those two are both blonde in their movies 😭 can’t believe we were robbed of a redheaded Chris hemsworth & Brad pitt I think they would have still looked hot in their films with red hair lmao
@catofthecastle1681
@catofthecastle1681 3 жыл бұрын
If an ancient Roman’s first personal name was Rufus, he was a redhead!
@nessyness5447
@nessyness5447 3 жыл бұрын
Aquilles in the iliad is described as having a golden mane
@Zynga76
@Zynga76 3 жыл бұрын
Queen Boudicca, a celtic warrior, is represented as having red hair. She was a badass human
@Shatterspeed
@Shatterspeed 3 жыл бұрын
It's kinda funny. My redheaded husband has Main Character energy. He was goofy and bullied in middle school, but he's the head of our group of friends.
@MarieTheOstrich
@MarieTheOstrich 3 жыл бұрын
thats because those sterotypes aren't real. society is weird isnt it?
@kimifw58
@kimifw58 3 жыл бұрын
There was also a time when the English thought redheaded babies were fairies or illegitimate children because they didn't know about recessive genes.
@medicamedico4335
@medicamedico4335 3 жыл бұрын
Please tell me they werent mabiki'd
@campop12
@campop12 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't they also believe redheads were vampires?
@kimifw58
@kimifw58 3 жыл бұрын
@@campop12 And descended from Cain.
@erincorcoran5936
@erincorcoran5936 3 жыл бұрын
I always heard about the old "red as hellflame" so they must be witches in league with the devil thing lol
@_Sakidora_
@_Sakidora_ 3 жыл бұрын
In Britain red headed babies were always the last to be adopted.
@jiyirinieme7641
@jiyirinieme7641 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe the most important redhead woman Danna Scully wasn’t mentioned even once!!😭also Dexter from Dexter the tv show deserved a mention as well
@YowaneHakuu
@YowaneHakuu 3 жыл бұрын
Loving these comments, our FBI queen got left out 🖤
@duckdodgers3574
@duckdodgers3574 3 жыл бұрын
She didn't fit their narrative; now that you mention, neither was Jean Grey, who also was sexualized in her Phoneix possession; Rouge either
@JeanieD
@JeanieD 3 жыл бұрын
Dexter’s hair is sandy, not red.
@jaymesEo6
@jaymesEo6 3 жыл бұрын
Gillian Anderson was not wanted by Fox's executives for Dana Scully. It was only when the showrunner Chris Carter threatened to leave the X-Files that they relented. They famously wanted to cast a tall blonde instead of Gillian.
@AquilaCat
@AquilaCat 3 жыл бұрын
I fully expected Scully to be mentioned during the redhead redemption segment :(
@chanmarr8118
@chanmarr8118 3 жыл бұрын
I always found it weird when I’d watch a British show and they’d almost always have a snide remark towards redhead. It’s so bad to a point where redheads themselves consider themselves a race. Crazy how people are treated over a rare hair color. Humans are constantly finding ways to separate themselves from others and belittle people.
@kahkah1986
@kahkah1986 3 жыл бұрын
Redheaded people are primarily found in Gaelic/ Celtic societies, so it does have an ethnicity sort of attached to it. Usually red heads from other countries are from this diaspora (although not always).
@V-13579
@V-13579 3 жыл бұрын
As a British redhead, I appreciate your comment a lot! I was tormented for my hair colour growing up and it made me hate myself. I died my hair black every two weeks for my entire teens. Now, it's my trademark and I absolutely love it, but as a child I could not see the beauty of it because of all the bullying, so it makes me sad to think there are other redheaded kids out there that feel the same way I did, especially in a world where it's now hugely frowned upon to use anyone's appearance to discriminate or insult (weight, ethnicity, gender, sexuality...as it should be.). It just feels like we're the one group of people everyone is 100% permitted to demonise and attack without retribution. It really, really negatively affects children, to the point of some of them killing themselves over it, yet I get laughed at whenever I bring this up. It's so sad.
@narudayo5053
@narudayo5053 3 жыл бұрын
Not only in Britain, in France too, there is a lot of jokes against redhead
@lauramac90
@lauramac90 3 жыл бұрын
I remember being called 'the ugly ginger sister' I dyed my hair blonde as a teen but now ad adult I love my red-hair
@gingit3239
@gingit3239 3 жыл бұрын
@@V-13579 Nah, from a fellow UK redhead, check yourself. Short men, tall women, small dick size, wonky teeth, toe thumbs, frizzy/kinky hair, these are just off the top of my head, so many things are also "demonized and attacked without retribution". We're not special victims
@tracybryant6285
@tracybryant6285 3 жыл бұрын
Red hair is so pretty and unique. I do hope they give Disney’s Ariel red hair. Sometimes I feel the media forgets about redheaded black people. I do not care about the race of Ariel but I do want her to keep her red hair because like I said red hair is beautiful.
@greatgownsbeautifulgowns
@greatgownsbeautifulgowns 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I have l definitely met black people with red hair. I went to school with a Nigerian girl with red hair all her siblings had the same color hair, and my former neighbor has red hair. A few months ago in a store I saw a little black boy with red hair and I instantly thought of the 2 of them.
@nickiehenderson3652
@nickiehenderson3652 3 жыл бұрын
They should make her hair look like red coral, such a good idea
@bal9944
@bal9944 3 жыл бұрын
I wished she had red hair so much 😭😭
@margaret4227
@margaret4227 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it is so cool. It is even rarer.
@gingit3239
@gingit3239 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! When I was in Kenya I saw a small dark skinned toddler with literally the same colour hair as mine
@kimifw58
@kimifw58 3 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Olsen, one of the most iconic redheads in comics, is never a redhead in live action media. _Never._ Lois Lane, however, is a redhead half the time even though there's already a Lana Lang.
@ineedmoresleep3728
@ineedmoresleep3728 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t Lois usually have black hair in all animated or drawn adaptations? That’s a weird change to make
@JuneieBack
@JuneieBack 3 жыл бұрын
I always find the Lois change weird. It doesn’t help that Amy Adams, the most recent Lois in the movies, is more like a Lana than a Lois anyway.
@ThisBlackFreeSpeeDeemedHarmful
@ThisBlackFreeSpeeDeemedHarmful 3 жыл бұрын
Stop. Lois is not a redhead "half the time" in live action media
@AlirioAguero2
@AlirioAguero2 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I'd like to see a redheaded actor playing Jimmy for once. Preferrably also a slender one, as so many superheroes are getting buffer these days.
@kimifw58
@kimifw58 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlirioAguero2 Yeah. Jimmy is supposed to be an audience surrogate. We're supposed to relate to him as he reacts to the weirdness of his universe. He's not relatable when he's a suave underwear model or an emotionless servant.
@EvilCarrotSauce
@EvilCarrotSauce 3 жыл бұрын
Red-headed female here. I somehow fall into the category of both clichés, I am somewhat attractive but I was also horribly bullied until college.
@V-13579
@V-13579 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. I was ridiculed for my red hair all through school. Now it's used to sexualise me. Fuck you, society.
@Oversurge_
@Oversurge_ 3 жыл бұрын
Every female is somewhat attractive. Perks of being a female.
@RamonaFlowers420
@RamonaFlowers420 3 жыл бұрын
That is not okay, I am sorry that you went through all of that.
@Rashy225
@Rashy225 3 жыл бұрын
@@Oversurge_ you must be blind then
@Mistyfaery
@Mistyfaery 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. If you're different at all,people will degrade you. Why? I've come to conclusion that humans are just tribal by nature. They only want to be inclusive to people who are like them. Yes this even people who shout from the roof tops about being all inclusive. 🤷‍♀️
@Smile-ni9nc
@Smile-ni9nc 3 жыл бұрын
I find that usually the "bad" redheads, most often male and nerdy, have the more natural, light orange kind. And the "good" ones, sexy NLOGs, have a darker, more reddish colour or this very strong copper colour. These usually also do not have the many freckles, light eyelashes/eyebrows that natural redheads often have, unless they are supposed to be teens on the nerdier/"alternative" side
@gingit3239
@gingit3239 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a really red redhead and I've heard this backed up irl all my life - people tell me that I'm the "good [looking] kind of redhead" or that I'm not like most gingers bc the latter are more light and orange.
@Smile-ni9nc
@Smile-ni9nc 3 жыл бұрын
@@gingit3239 Oh wow. I think we as a society need to become much more sensitive when it comes to talking about people's looks, even (or maybe especially) when it's supposed to be compliments
@timothyo718
@timothyo718 3 жыл бұрын
Yes this makes sense since the darker more auburn or chestnut redhead males are closer to the male ideal of being tall dark and handsome. Paleness and freckles are associated with femininity so men that have light eye lashes, light red hair and ultra fair skin are seen as having feminine traits on a subconscious level. Although white men are viewed as having an advantage in the dating market the “bad” redheads don’t especially with white women. In fact they have a better chance being paired up with Asian women. This is actually a pairing that is quite frequent. Pale redhead man or toe head blond man (also either scrawny or heavy set) paired up with an Asian woman.
@abbysc417
@abbysc417 3 жыл бұрын
@@gingit3239 same actually lol but I’m more strawberry blonde than orange
@CL-ew7wh
@CL-ew7wh 2 жыл бұрын
Im a natural redhead and although I have the pale skin but I dont have the freckles or light coloured eyebrows
@margheritafiani8131
@margheritafiani8131 3 жыл бұрын
I think that both Anne Shirley and Daphne from Scooby doo are great examples of the powerful read-head woman
@ninjanibba4259
@ninjanibba4259 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't classify Daphine as powerful until the movies 2002 and 04
@tonym7919
@tonym7919 3 жыл бұрын
Daphne was portrayed as being pretty but not too bright.
@JuneieBack
@JuneieBack 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t say that. Daphnes character has revolved over the years before that. Sure most people only think of the live action movies but in the late 70’s and early 80’s she was the one who became the leader of the group. Fred and Velma left at some point and only made guest appearances. That’s when she really started to come into her own.
@smcphee8499
@smcphee8499 3 жыл бұрын
Ms. Bellum
@bal9944
@bal9944 3 жыл бұрын
Daphne is also super hot
@Krazygurrly
@Krazygurrly 3 жыл бұрын
Two outliers to this trend are Jamie from outlander and Anne Shirley. Notably, both characters were created by women
@mst3khaleesi943
@mst3khaleesi943 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really surprised the video didn't mention either of them. Anne has been an iconic and beloved character for over 100 years, and Jamie is one of the few intensely desirable red-haired male characters that breaks the stereotypes discussed in the video (and it's not incidental; part of what makes him so attractive to Claire is his copper hair).
@KiraFriede
@KiraFriede 3 жыл бұрын
Especially Anne Shirley since her hair colour plays a major role in the story.
@sarahcicle8592
@sarahcicle8592 2 жыл бұрын
Also like...Lucy from I love Lucy...sure she might be firey, but it’s not in a vilified way, she also wasn’t sexualuzed, and she stood out from the typical personality expectations as a housewife during her time.
@ms_cartographer
@ms_cartographer 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone who thinks Ron Weasley is a "loser" clearly hasn't read the books.
@tracyroweauthor
@tracyroweauthor 3 жыл бұрын
I started dying my hair ginger about 20 years ago, going from mousy brown. I get compliments on my hair all the time. The color works better for me because I have pale skin and freckles and my coloring is more like a redhead's. Honestly, hair color is a stupid reason to stereotype people. Well, stereotyping is stupid in and of itself.
@strawberryshortcake4342
@strawberryshortcake4342 3 жыл бұрын
I’m married to a red-headed man and he told me hoped our male children would not get his red hair. He didn’t mind if a daughter got red hair, but he feels red headed men are discriminated against.
@lajuedema8424
@lajuedema8424 3 жыл бұрын
Surprised Anne of Green Gables wasn’t in here
@Nightman221k
@Nightman221k 3 жыл бұрын
Anne Shirley is the all time coolest redhead in literature.
@lajuedema8424
@lajuedema8424 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nightman221k 100%
@johnwalker1058
@johnwalker1058 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nightman221k Nothing but facts.
@marvelous616
@marvelous616 3 жыл бұрын
Love how the narration "wake up" was synced with Shrek shaking Fiona.
@orangeblossom1712
@orangeblossom1712 3 жыл бұрын
I was bullied so much in high school for having red hair. Being “fIrEcRoTcH” and having “no soul”. Now I’m a proud redhead and I’m so confident - so happy I never dyed it.
@tortis6342
@tortis6342 3 жыл бұрын
Do people think redheads don't have souls? Where did that even come from?
@nameslesss
@nameslesss 3 жыл бұрын
@@tortis6342 in the U.K. it’s a popular phrase
@fellihoijer4395
@fellihoijer4395 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe Bloom from Winx Club, Daphne blake from Scooby doo, Giselle from enchanted, Amy pond from Doctor who, Barbara Gordon some of my favorite characters weren’t included They all are so Iconic 😍
@fellihoijer4395
@fellihoijer4395 3 жыл бұрын
Plus Sam from totally spies
@fellihoijer4395
@fellihoijer4395 3 жыл бұрын
Anastasia
@Internatube
@Internatube 3 жыл бұрын
The Take: "Red headed men are often unfairly feminized and made to feel less sexually desirable" Me (as an Asian male): *"Please, Tell me more"*
@kimifw58
@kimifw58 3 жыл бұрын
The video compares them to Asian men.
@timothyo718
@timothyo718 3 жыл бұрын
It is extremely similar. Both redheaded women and Asian women are framed as sexy and highly desirable. Typically fetishized while Asian men and redhead men are asexualized and framed as dorky.
@jaclync4183
@jaclync4183 3 жыл бұрын
Have you talked to redhead men to see how similar your experiences have been? Sounds like Hollywood and media have been throwing shade on both your groups from the beginning.
@ThisBlackFreeSpeeDeemedHarmful
@ThisBlackFreeSpeeDeemedHarmful 2 жыл бұрын
They didn't even give Shang-Chi a love interest in his own flick😳😒🤦🏾‍♂️
@JIEON.C
@JIEON.C 2 жыл бұрын
Try being a red headed asian male.
@lucypreece7581
@lucypreece7581 3 жыл бұрын
When you were going on about how red headed women are often sexualised and seen as seductive and vixen like it made me think of the character of Emma Pillsbury on Glee. She is framed as very un-sexy and has almost an aversion to sex and can even possibly be read as being somewhere on the Asexual Spectrum yet she is still a beloved character on that show because she leads with her compassion and intelligence and her ability to think of unlikely solutions to problems. But she still ha a fire in her and can stand her ground when she needs to like when Emma is calling out Sue for her behaviour or telling Will he is being an idiot.
@solanaseraphina
@solanaseraphina 3 жыл бұрын
Disappointed coz there's not a single Queen's Gambit feature
@everybodysproblems
@everybodysproblems 3 жыл бұрын
Also no Anne of green gables
@AirQuotes
@AirQuotes 3 жыл бұрын
They ignored the characters that didn't fit the mold
@jennyformica4767
@jennyformica4767 2 жыл бұрын
Beth isn’t a real redhead. She’s a blonde in a wig
@Yokai-Samurai
@Yokai-Samurai 3 жыл бұрын
I felt they could have touched on redheads being the most replaced characters in media.
@JulietteKernDiamond
@JulietteKernDiamond 3 жыл бұрын
what do you mean?
@Yokai-Samurai
@Yokai-Samurai 3 жыл бұрын
@@JulietteKernDiamond Redheaded characters from comics and cartoons are being replaced by blonds, brunettes, bald people. As well as when they want to race swap a character redheads are the first to go.
@JulietteKernDiamond
@JulietteKernDiamond 3 жыл бұрын
@@Yokai-Samurai ohhh shoot ok thats lame
@ravenclawthestral3964
@ravenclawthestral3964 3 жыл бұрын
@@Yokai-Samurai And when they race swap they seem to forget that redheads *don’t have to be white.* Red hair is not a race specific trait. They don’t need to get rid of that part of the character.
@autumnbeaty9768
@autumnbeaty9768 3 жыл бұрын
@@ravenclawthestral3964 two distinct genes with red hair. One, the more common, was first noted from the Nordic nations and not celt. That is the fair one found in Scotland and north Ireland. Second is what they refered to when speaking of Hebrew redheads is of mirky origin. Originated from somewhere in the Asians steps which is the darker auburn, thus north western asian north African and Mediterranean auburn. People study genes. This is public knowledge
@basementintruder
@basementintruder 3 жыл бұрын
No mention of Dana Scully from X-Files? I wish she was mentionned in the later category. She's beautiful but isn't sexualised, especially in the early years. She's a great character, a great model.
@jiyirinieme7641
@jiyirinieme7641 3 жыл бұрын
I know right? She’s literally the most iconic redhead of American TV and they didn’t even show her ONCE 😭
@kirsty307
@kirsty307 3 жыл бұрын
Dana Scully was such a role-model for me and my sister growing up
@MnMsandOreos
@MnMsandOreos 3 жыл бұрын
Princess Fiona being a redhead is a wonderful character choice because it’s a small visual queue that she is different, letting us know that fact before we know she’s an ogre
@adagiobreeze8493
@adagiobreeze8493 3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me how the media portrays Asian Men and Women.
@PatrickLofstrom
@PatrickLofstrom 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, it's mentioned.
@monbjra
@monbjra 3 жыл бұрын
Asian media from asia is rising and changing the narrative. There is no redhead media or redhead. Country
@shermikeman
@shermikeman 3 жыл бұрын
As a redhead, I've done open mic bits about the difference between male and female redheads: If you tell your friends you're dating a woman redhead, they act like you've found and tamed an actual unicorn. For the men, the reaction is closer to the fained politeness we presented when that nice old lady gave us pencils instead of candy on Halloween.
@PeterParker-yg6fc
@PeterParker-yg6fc 3 жыл бұрын
unless the girl group is asian
@timothyo718
@timothyo718 3 жыл бұрын
@@PeterParker-yg6fc That is a good point. Really the only times I have seen redhead men or pale scrawny blonde men chased after is by Asian women. Asian women just care that the man is white doesn’t matter if it fits the western ideal of what is attractive for white men (tall dark and handsome). Typically the white men that don’t have luck with top tier white women have better luck with Asian women. This fits into my theory that being too pale as a white man is not a desirable trait. Fairness and freckles are seen as a feminine trait. While the ideal masculine man has darker features. Porn plays with this idea by pairing tan or darker skinned men with fair skinned women. Even the couples in various Hollywood films fit this archetype. Tall black haired man with tan skin paired with fair skinned blonde women.
@eldron29-a54
@eldron29-a54 3 жыл бұрын
Go to Spain, Latin America or Asia, dude. But the history of why in Spain there's almost no red heads, it's pretty horrifying (nobody expects the Spanish inquisition...). But you'll be so popular, no matter your gender.
@eldron29-a54
@eldron29-a54 3 жыл бұрын
@@timothyo718 in reality is because in those countries, they aren't so many blondes /red heads, and in general, Asian girls prefer androgynous men. Yep, what is beautiful in one country, isn't in another. What is rare in a country, usually tend to be the most attractive feature. I'm from a country with white majority but with black hair, and because being blonde/red head is rare, is the most attractive feature.
@dimplesd8931
@dimplesd8931 3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@TheChannelofOrange
@TheChannelofOrange 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a redhead and I aprove this message! This is true in real life, not just film. We are never the man women imagine they want.
@lou5956
@lou5956 3 жыл бұрын
This isn't true, I know quite a few women who adore redheaded men. I'm quite partial to it myself.
@elviramarina3869
@elviramarina3869 3 жыл бұрын
I love redheads. My husband is redhead and this is super attractive to me.
@Caio-sw7hh
@Caio-sw7hh 3 жыл бұрын
ah são sim
@greatgownsbeautifulgowns
@greatgownsbeautifulgowns 3 жыл бұрын
Tom Hiddleston is a redhead? The Flanders children are redheads? I feel like I've been sleeping through life!😂
@SanguinaryBlade
@SanguinaryBlade 3 жыл бұрын
Always saw the younger Flanders as ginger but the older as brown haired. I also never saw the lead character in pretty woman as a redhead, just as having brown hair. Also surprised they never talked about Gabrielle in Xena: Warrior Princess, since she has all those characteristics of individuality, otherness, bravery and passion that they talk about so much, and I'd absolutely have said she was strawberry blonde which despite the name colour I'd consider more red than blonde. But also they showed pictures as that gross goop lady as Pepper Potts who has pretty much the same hair colour.
@lou5956
@lou5956 3 жыл бұрын
Tom Hiddleston is actually blonde. Benedict Cumberbatch is ginger.
@olisam9732
@olisam9732 3 жыл бұрын
I think he described himself as an "overgrown ginger kid from Wimbledon" in an interview. So according to Tom, he kind of is a redhead... What I find funny is, in the video they showed scenes from Inglorious Bastards which stars Michael Fassbender, not Tom Hiddleston.
@greatgownsbeautifulgowns
@greatgownsbeautifulgowns 3 жыл бұрын
@@lou5956 I didn't know Benedict Cumberbatch had red hair either lol
@greatgownsbeautifulgowns
@greatgownsbeautifulgowns 3 жыл бұрын
@@olisam9732 I caught that too I'm like, that's Michael Fassbender but, ummmmm ok.😂 I just can't picture Tom Hiddleston as a redhead, but I Googled it and he actually did have red hair when he was younger and he was so cute too!
@charlotteflood4044
@charlotteflood4044 3 жыл бұрын
I was so happy to see this video be made! Growing up I was bullied for being a read head but it seemed as soon as puberty hit every guy who was ever interested in me would say “I have a thing for read heads”. It was so confusing. I definitely feels wrong to relate it to racism because it’s not severe discrimination but the colour of my hair definitely has impacted how I’ve been treated.
@ThisBlackFreeSpeeDeemedHarmful
@ThisBlackFreeSpeeDeemedHarmful 2 жыл бұрын
@Charlotte Flood as a black man I can say sometimes people think having a sexual interest in a person makes up for their prejudicial attitudes towards that type of person (even if the sexual interest is based on race-specific sexual narratives that're ultimately racist). So those boys probably subconciously thought highlighting their attraction to that feature of yours was indicative of their growth from being those same type of kids who gave you that Redheaded Stepchild shit when you were a kid🤷🏾‍♂️
@thyironfist
@thyironfist 3 жыл бұрын
I always found it unfair how red headed males in media are often portrayed as bullies yet my experience growing up, they were always the ones getting bullied. Hearing the viewpoint of vilifying the other, it makes so much sense, and still so unfair for them.
@tranehyoh7903
@tranehyoh7903 3 жыл бұрын
I remember watching Harry Potter when I was a kid and that Ginny would be my favorite character because she was a ginger girl and I felt representated even if she had no personality😭
@Audem96
@Audem96 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you've ever read the books but Ginny is a brave and independent girl in those. I always thought it was a shame that almost all her scenes (and personality) vanished in the movies
@tranehyoh7903
@tranehyoh7903 3 жыл бұрын
@@Audem96 yes I have, and I know Ginny was great in the books, but for some reason her character and Ron's were transformed into people who weren't half of what they were on the books, and that's sad
@Audem96
@Audem96 3 жыл бұрын
@@tranehyoh7903 yup
@bal9944
@bal9944 3 жыл бұрын
I had always seen Ginny as the cool girl, she is very beautiful, great Quidditch player, very good results at school and sense of humor.
@AlirioAguero2
@AlirioAguero2 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, due to screenwriter loving to write for Hermione, her character took a lot of Ron's and Ginny's dialogue and scenes in films. While I love Hermione to bits too, I wish if the films were more balanced, and all 3 characters got their areas to shine.
@j.albuquerque9274
@j.albuquerque9274 3 жыл бұрын
And if they're comic book characters, they're black on screen (half-black if they're female).
@lilmuffin9253
@lilmuffin9253 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean?
@j.albuquerque9274
@j.albuquerque9274 2 жыл бұрын
@@lilmuffin9253 Redhead comic book characters are all being replaced by black guys (the female characters are being replaced by half black actresses).
@ThisBlackFreeSpeeDeemedHarmful
@ThisBlackFreeSpeeDeemedHarmful 2 жыл бұрын
🤣This fool seriously came with a "colour-washing" narrative to a Take video. Take that white victimhood to any of the million faux outrage, anti-"SJW" channels son. This isn't isn't place
@j.albuquerque9274
@j.albuquerque9274 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThisBlackFreeSpeeDeemedHarmful Truth hurts it seems. It's not like making anything up.
@Hallows4
@Hallows4 3 жыл бұрын
At the premiere of Deathly Hallows Part 2, Rupert Grint thanked J.K. Rowling for elevating redheads to such prominent and developed characters.
@christopherb501
@christopherb501 3 жыл бұрын
If only she'd taken something away from that proper. If only...
@marilima9986
@marilima9986 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly no matter the hair color women are portrayed like this
@fidget0227
@fidget0227 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Redhead women are fetishized, absolutely, but so blondes, brunettes, noirettes, and everyone in between.
@kimifw58
@kimifw58 3 жыл бұрын
Blondes are dumb, brunettes are smart, and redheads are fiery. Those are the stereotypes western society has for them. Pay attention.
@bal9944
@bal9944 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed that redhead and blonde tend to be sexualised more (just think about the whole playboy/Baywatch thing)
@snowpiglet
@snowpiglet 2 жыл бұрын
I got bullied AND sexualised for my red hair, sometimes in the same sentence. People want to posses it, like if I ever wanted to cut it they'd protest. My mum literally cried when I asked her to cut my hair super short, and it was because she found it beautiful and had romanticised my "otherness". I have NO idea what it's like to be a person of colour, but I do have a good idea of what it feels like to be othered and exoticised in media and in everyday life. It's super interesting to see how the treatment of red hair is a microcosm of the treatment of other cultures and POC, and our systemic ostracism of anyone even a little bit different.
@yeeyee6723
@yeeyee6723 2 жыл бұрын
Amen to that.
@Ilaria753
@Ilaria753 3 жыл бұрын
Anne Shirley deserved a shout-out, especially Anne from Anne with an E
@kaitlyncramp3100
@kaitlyncramp3100 3 жыл бұрын
The exception that comes to mind is Edward Cullen. He has auburn red hair in the books
@kimifw58
@kimifw58 3 жыл бұрын
And Christian Grey keeps his copper hair for the movies.
@tonym7919
@tonym7919 3 жыл бұрын
And is oversexualized the way redheaded women usually are.
@oliviamcneil3101
@oliviamcneil3101 3 жыл бұрын
And here I thought we didn’t talk about that anymore, as good of a point as you make.
@ThisBlackFreeSpeeDeemedHarmful
@ThisBlackFreeSpeeDeemedHarmful 2 жыл бұрын
And they changed him to brown haired in the movies. When it comes to Visual medium, sometimes the tropes and stereotypes are more adhered to. To avoid the possibility of people finding it hard to See a challenge to their preconceived notions. In this case, to get around what might be an initial recoil at a sexed-up, desirable redheaded male lead
@remyraymay
@remyraymay 3 жыл бұрын
The whole stereotype of male redheads is so bizarre because I’ve came across a lot of attractive redheaded men & know for a fact that most gay men love redheads as well. So when watching theses movies or show’s it would be so annoying because I know they could easily come across someone that wouldn’t be a caricatures, so it always felt like it was done on purpose and now I see why. It’s pretty much racist at this point.
@Altrantis
@Altrantis 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently in norse myth Thor is redhead, and how they saw him is as a successful homeboy whom all men should aspire to be like.
@lou5956
@lou5956 3 жыл бұрын
Loki was a redhead too. The Norse believed that people with red hair and blue eyes were harbingers of battle.
@handsoaphandsoap
@handsoaphandsoap 3 жыл бұрын
Not really, like yeah Thor was very well respected as he was a weather deity but he was sort of a comic relief type guy. Like he was loud and over the top, he’d constantly lose his shit at random stuff, he would always try to brute force his way through his problems and was often depicted as an idiot. Odin and Baldur were moreso considered as aspirational figures as they fell into the paragon archetypes (Baldur is literally a Christ allegory and is described as the perfect most handsome boi).
@Altrantis
@Altrantis 3 жыл бұрын
@@handsoaphandsoap Thor is not a weather deity. In fact that concept is not applicable in norse mythlogy, they weren't really gods *of* something. They were personalities. And yes, he bumbled about a lot, but he's meant to be relatable. There's a reason most people wore Mjolnir amulets. He was the most worshiped god.
@handsoaphandsoap
@handsoaphandsoap 2 жыл бұрын
@@Altrantis That's not exactly true, the Gods and Goddesses definitely had specific roles within the lore and were worshipped for specific reasons, though yeah, they weren't as rigidly defined by their roles as in many other monolithic religions. But they still served different roles, like Freyr being the god of fertility, Bragi the god of poetry, Iðunn the goddess of youth, Frigg the goddess of fate, and so on and so on. Thor also wasn't the most worshipped, that would definitely go to big daddy Odin with Freyja and Freyr being close seconds (kind of comes with the whole being the gods of love and fertility thing, Freyr was especially revered by farmers as they would regularly offer sacrifices to him in hopes of a good harvest).
@holliebrokaw3716
@holliebrokaw3716 2 жыл бұрын
Also he's so big he couldn't use the bifrost with the other aesir because he was too big. The guy's gotta use goats instead. Plus sized king
@readanddreamofparis8820
@readanddreamofparis8820 3 жыл бұрын
Can you make a Video about the portrayal of russians and other slavic groups in American Films? They are almost Always portrayed aus villains and either sexy women or stupid violent men
@gabrielleduplessis7388
@gabrielleduplessis7388 3 жыл бұрын
Also brave is an outlier because Merida is pretty but not hyper-sexualized. She may be a little geeky but not a complete nerd. She had more depth to her. Hal did something else. They commented on how the stalker geeky guy (or the “nice guy archetype) does not get rewarded for his behavior. With ron, the movies did not do him justice. He was not a coward. He was loyal and brave and devoted to his family. They just over did his quirkiness and dumbed him down and made him too mean which sucks.
@deannal.newton9772
@deannal.newton9772 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call being a tomboy, geeky though when it comes to Merida.
@urooj5620
@urooj5620 3 жыл бұрын
You guys just decided to forget one of the most iconic redheads of all time-Anne Shirley!
@marianmonterrubio3503
@marianmonterrubio3503 3 жыл бұрын
I loved it!!! Only one quesiton: Where were Batgirl (Barbara Gordon), America (from The selection), and Peter Pan? And fun fact: Ariel was going to be blonde, but red was easier to color, and the creadors said that it would "fit better her personality".
@j.albuquerque9274
@j.albuquerque9274 3 жыл бұрын
They're making a Batgirl movie in HBO Max, she won't be redhead. Sad.
@tortis6342
@tortis6342 3 жыл бұрын
And Daphne. Don't forget Daphne from Scooby Doo.
@JuneieBack
@JuneieBack 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think she won’t be a red head. They probably are gonna die her hair or something. Just like how Ariel in the Little Mermaid live action movie is still being given red hair.
@gingerkid1048
@gingerkid1048 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah when my Ginger ass lived in an all white area I got beaten up for being ginger. When I lived in a more diverse city I hung out with visible minorities because they weren’t going to assault me over my hair colour.
@musicfan89011
@musicfan89011 3 жыл бұрын
Love that the take included the Irish perspective in this topic, so often america is ignorant to the fraught relationship between Ireland and England and the results of England colonising and oppressing Ireland. SNL in particular love to make shit jokes at Ireland’s expense so it’s great to see a form of American media addressing it
@AmandaFromWisconsin
@AmandaFromWisconsin 2 жыл бұрын
1.) Which Americans are ignorant of it? 2.) People in other countries don't make shit jokes at the US's expense? And I know, I know...the response to that is usually something along the lines of, "Well, when Americans do it, it comes from a place of ignorance, but when non-Americans do it, it comes from a place of knowledge." Yeah...sure. * eye roll *
@sp0ngeb00b7
@sp0ngeb00b7 2 жыл бұрын
@@AmandaFromWisconsin ?? so many Americans have absolutely 0 clue, or have only seen the "No Irish no blacks no dogs" image, it's obviously not y'alls' fault, there are many areas of your history we are ignorant to as well. But it is appreciated to show the discrimination Irish people have faced, some light, on international platforms, considering many US citizens only care ab getting drunk on St Patrick's Day. And of course, national TV of all corners of the globe throws cheap shots at literally everywhere else, but with the American ignorance towards Irish history combined with the stereotypes and lack of Irish media influence, America being the most influential country with its' media, it's quite literally a "picking on someone your own size" situation. The western (white) world at large is regularly forced to endure and educate itself surrounding American social issues and tensions, but where is the US media outrage for our problems?
@deannal.newton9772
@deannal.newton9772 Жыл бұрын
@@AmandaFromWisconsin Actually other countries make fun of the United States all the time.
@catofthecastle1681
@catofthecastle1681 3 жыл бұрын
When my second daughter was born with red hair, I couldn’t give her any other name but Katherine Elizabeth! She has lived up to it completely!
@os2841
@os2841 3 жыл бұрын
how boring
@doctordl7757
@doctordl7757 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed when it comes to women the redhead is considered a "Bombshell" on screen, while the Male counterparts are portrayed as a whimp or dork.
@christmansonpunk2927
@christmansonpunk2927 3 жыл бұрын
Similar to Asian characters, where the women are just sexy for being and the men are emasculated
@DahianaG
@DahianaG 3 жыл бұрын
I swear people just don't watch the video
@FeelinErie
@FeelinErie 3 жыл бұрын
@@DahianaG 💀
@witchplease9695
@witchplease9695 3 жыл бұрын
The reverse happens to Black women. Black men are portrayed as cool and strong and attractive, Black women are portrayed as every undesirable and every negative stereotype under the sun.
@christmansonpunk2927
@christmansonpunk2927 3 жыл бұрын
@@witchplease9695 that really needs to change, it feels like Hollywood will forever push all the media the perpetuates the idea that people of color are less than in comparison to yt's. The problem is most people are susceptible to marketing and everybody wants to keep participating and throwing money into this machine so they have no reason to change. I honestly believe those of us who want this change to occur need to stop supporting anything Hollywood puts out that isn't positive representation of people of color and support indie projects instead
@joshdoz9234
@joshdoz9234 3 жыл бұрын
*see's thumbnail* I dunno. Syndrome was a pretty cool villain. Yeah he had "my hero rejected me" shtick, but he was a competent bad guy......up until his giant robot decided to go it alone.
@handsoaphandsoap
@handsoaphandsoap 3 жыл бұрын
Still plays into that “dorky redhaired guy” stereotype, we first see him as a nerdy Mr. Incredible fanboy and even as an adult he’s shown as a bit of a manchild and is contrasted to his sexy sidekick Mirage (kind of the same deal as Dr. Draken and Shego in Kim Possible), though this is probably incidental as his design is jokingly based on Brad Bird who is a redhead.
@c.w.8200
@c.w.8200 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't understand why he was the villain in the first place, he wasn't born with superpowers but he attained them basically through his intelligence, seems cooler to me than just being born with something, I couldn't help but root for him.
@lyokianhitchhiker
@lyokianhitchhiker 3 жыл бұрын
@@c.w.8200 How would you react if someone who you idolized let you down like that?
@emmahenderson2737
@emmahenderson2737 3 жыл бұрын
Also he was shown as blond not red haired as a kid - did he become ginger or dye it on purpose?
@Zoronita
@Zoronita 2 жыл бұрын
@@handsoaphandsoap sexy sidekick? Aren't he and Mirage together? I always assumed they were married/in a relationship.
@jessicajohnson2412
@jessicajohnson2412 3 жыл бұрын
I am a natural ginger and I do get offended and sad when people just expresses thier thier disgust for us! I love my hair color I am not ashamed of it! I am a woman and when people say you must be a Weasley to me I just take it as compliment becauce I love Harry Potter one of the reasons I do is Becauce they embrace it!
@catofthecastle1681
@catofthecastle1681 3 жыл бұрын
It is a compliment! They are unknowingly jealous that they aren’t unusual!
@jessicajohnson2412
@jessicajohnson2412 3 жыл бұрын
@@catofthecastle1681 i see it as a compliment in Harry Potter tho thats almost the only place where we are appreciated somewhat,
@nanalove3819
@nanalove3819 3 жыл бұрын
I always like red hair, for me it is the most beautiful hair color. I don't get why people don't like it.
@jessicajohnson2412
@jessicajohnson2412 2 жыл бұрын
@@nanalove3819 i dont get it ethier really not
@malon-
@malon- 3 жыл бұрын
It surprised me that Anne (of green gables) was not here :)
@theefunhouse3457
@theefunhouse3457 3 жыл бұрын
I never notice or thought of red-headed people getting discriminated I am aware of the ethnic discrimination against the Irish but I have never seen history scholars touch on the hair also so if redheads get discriminated imagine being POC with red hair cause I hope we all know red hair can be in any race
@Skittenmeow
@Skittenmeow 3 жыл бұрын
I have an old friend who is Australian aboriginal (Noongar) and a redhead. And yeah, she experiences extreme discrimination. She can pretend not to be aboriginal, but that idea is horrific to her. As a teen she was often asked by police why a nice girl like her is spending time with (racial slur) troublemakers - her family. I have had very mild discrimination because of being a redhead, lots of school bullying and other weird stuff. But I could hide my hair colour. And I'm so white it's uncomfortable being in Australia.
@tiarezavaleta8850
@tiarezavaleta8850 3 жыл бұрын
@@Skittenmeow people is sick, I swear.
@katierosealexander8132
@katierosealexander8132 2 жыл бұрын
In no way am I comparing being a white red headed person to a person of colour. But will say was teased non stop right though school and nobody cared and thought was bad. Even though made me extremely self conscious. As I got into adult years continued slightly and was replaced with being sexualised for having red hair.
@franksmom3192
@franksmom3192 3 жыл бұрын
As a natural born redhead, I use to when people would say I’d rather be dead then red
@uhohmykokoro1616
@uhohmykokoro1616 3 жыл бұрын
You used to what?
@moonlight4665
@moonlight4665 3 жыл бұрын
It's kind of curious how responses to "difference" are gendered. The different female is fetishized, the different male is feared
@MP-il8ys
@MP-il8ys 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a redhead and when I was little a weird old man in the grocery store randomly said to me, “red headed girls get kissed, but red headed boys get punched.”
@gabrielesimone1372
@gabrielesimone1372 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a redhead male in real life. And I'm a loser... This can't be 100% false.
@petette4442
@petette4442 3 жыл бұрын
Only because you think so
@chrisdraughn5941
@chrisdraughn5941 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone is a loser in some aspect of their lives, so you’ve got plenty of company. To quote Tyler Durden, “we are all part of the same compost heap.”
@petette4442
@petette4442 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisdraughn5941 if everyone is in fact a loser in some way, then no one is really a loser, right?
@chrisdraughn5941
@chrisdraughn5941 3 жыл бұрын
@@petette4442 - Sure, or at the very least it’s irrelevant. At least that’s what I tell myself when I’m trying to cope with my shortcomings.
@TheFaheyFierce
@TheFaheyFierce 3 жыл бұрын
Literally walk ten miles around how one of the most iconic redheads in pop culture, Archie Andrews, is played by a British bloke with black hair that they inconsistantly spray die scene to scene. Ron Weasley and the Weasley's in general represent the worst British prejudice of Irishness. Ya seem to shrug off this Take, but yeah media recasting red-haired characters is shitty. People are intimidated by my mear presence, just because I look they way I do. I'm deemed unattractive and unintelligent because of how I look. It's not equivalent to other minorities, but it's shared a shared feeling that I empathize with. We don't have to have a pecking order.
@PeterParker-yg6fc
@PeterParker-yg6fc 3 жыл бұрын
? i feel discriminated against but being perceived as unintelligent is not one of them. in fact the opposite is a problem
@autumnbeaty9768
@autumnbeaty9768 3 жыл бұрын
He's not a Brit completely wrong hemisphere
@mwyz
@mwyz 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this made me realize how many of the Marvel women are redheads, lol.
@richieswar3139
@richieswar3139 3 жыл бұрын
I also noticed that. And none of the actresses are even redheads
@createplanwithelle
@createplanwithelle 3 жыл бұрын
I remember reading a book about a suburb where people treat redheads better than other people with other haircolor. The protagonist is a girl who’s so popular because she’s redhead but the truth is, she’s blonde/brown haired that she needs to color her hair in a salon at least a month or every few weeks. I forgot what happened in the end.
@ashy1587
@ashy1587 3 жыл бұрын
It also relates back to the witch hunts when literally any difference was taken as evidence of devil worship.
@jaimicottrill2831
@jaimicottrill2831 3 жыл бұрын
People (especially women), who had red hair were more likely to be accused of being a witch because red hair was rare and a symbol of otherness.
@AlirioAguero2
@AlirioAguero2 2 жыл бұрын
Just recently, I was connecting the idea how men with red hair, and those of Asian descent are too often portrayed as sexually undesirable, while redheaded women and Asian women have been disproportionately shown as objects of desire. I have no idea why do some people think that way, as I always thought that Asian men and redheaded men are just as attractive as their female counterparts on average. The whole stereotype feels entirely baseless. Also, while we're at it, can we talk about the stereotypes about blondes as well. Male blondes - Privileged, snotty, rich, backstabbing, insincere, and bullies. Female blondes - Exactly like their male counterparts, or alternatively seductive but dumb bombshells, or a combination of both. If you examine how sandy and yellow-haired people have been portrayed in mainstream media on average, you'll see that characters fitting the ''rich and snotty bully'' type are disproportionately blond.
@heathermangiare5960
@heathermangiare5960 3 жыл бұрын
I actually had a boyfriend for a little while who was first interested in me because I reminded him so much of Christina Hendricks' character in Mad Men and once the fetish got old he broke up with me. I also get crap because I'm 3/4ths southern Italian (not Sicilian), 1/4 Hungarian, and 0 percent Irish and people insist I must be lying. I really love my hair though, I think it suits me :)
@flamebunny6511
@flamebunny6511 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry about the fetishization ☹️
@heathermangiare5960
@heathermangiare5960 3 жыл бұрын
@@flamebunny6511 thanks ❤️ it’s happened other times too but that was the worst time. Yet another reason I tend to stay off the dating websites lol
@sheltertwo7957
@sheltertwo7957 3 жыл бұрын
We really gotta show our ginger kings more love. Also shout out to Ian Gallagher for being one of the most captivating & complex characters on TV! More of that please.
@JustAVillainEnthusiast
@JustAVillainEnthusiast 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video, recently I’ve just been feeling this overwhelming unease because I’m ginger and I always felt like I didn’t belong, I was constantly picked on and mocked because of my red hair and I could never find myself finding peace in fictional gingers as they just made me feel even more pathetic than I already did… I’m glad I wasn’t the only person to notice lack of variety in onscreen gingers!
@Rhennster
@Rhennster 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh I am surprised you didn’t mention Archie from riverdale because his character is completely the opposite of how red head males have been portrayed in the past
@deannal.newton9772
@deannal.newton9772 Жыл бұрын
You mean the fact that Archie is a clueless girl-chaser in the comics?
@user-dq8km4zt7f
@user-dq8km4zt7f 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's also worth mentioning how Irish people were also sold as a slaves back in the day, often being "less valuable" and "cheaper" than other ethnicities
@deannal.newton9772
@deannal.newton9772 Жыл бұрын
Which is also why Irish people share stereotypes of black people like how all Irish people are god athetles as well as how there are literal posters calling Irish people apes.
@ineedmoresleep3728
@ineedmoresleep3728 3 жыл бұрын
Disney animators got backlash for making Ariel a redhead original and constantly got told that “everyone knows mermaids are blonde”
@lime8887
@lime8887 3 жыл бұрын
I have noticed this though- male redheads on the whole tend to be seen as more unattractive/ A joke, and while the same can be said for women as well they are more likely to be seen as attractive with said red hair.
@ManiaMac1613
@ManiaMac1613 3 жыл бұрын
What's funny to me is that red-haired women are seen as attractive, but not actual gingers; nine times out of ten it's bottle-red or auburn hair without any freckles or pale skin. Male gingers are almost universally seen as unattractive.
@AxxLAfriku
@AxxLAfriku 3 жыл бұрын
Why is Donald Trump pretty and I am not? But why does he only have a wife but I have TWO HANDSOME GIRLFRIENDS who I show off in my masterpiece YT videos? Do you know the answer, dear li
@clairewillow6475
@clairewillow6475 3 жыл бұрын
@@ManiaMac1613 freckles are coming into style lately, people are drawing them on with makeup lol . But I know what you mean, the blond eyelash/eyebrows type of ginger with blue eyes and TONS of freckles is less seen on screen than the auburn red head with brown eyes and eyebrows and a tan (and less freckles)
@ManiaMac1613
@ManiaMac1613 3 жыл бұрын
@@clairewillow6475 Fake freckles are ridiculous to me. On the one hand, I guess it's nice that people appreciate them, but I'd rather have people appreciate the real thing instead of taking someone else's physical attributes as a fashion statement.
@corneliahanimann2173
@corneliahanimann2173 3 жыл бұрын
oh society is amazing at that. We can basically have our standards for beauty, and anything that might seem attractive but doesn't fit the standard gets its own category on pornhub, trans, race, redhead, curvy, we're great at bullying them in reality but fetishize them when no one is looking. it's as if all these things were attractive and desireable but we're all hung up on acting like it's not. Not accusing anyone here, but we have so many women that feel invalid in their beauty for that reason and I hate that.
@Whimzy74
@Whimzy74 3 жыл бұрын
This portrayal of red headed man and women seems very similar to how Asian women and men are portrayed in film and media
@manuelciceri4644
@manuelciceri4644 3 жыл бұрын
A literary example that came to my mind It's the Italian short story "Rosso Malpelo" ("evil redhead") where the main character is routinely beaten for his assumed nastiness, as manifest in his red hair according to the people of his village.
@MrGopalrockz
@MrGopalrockz 3 жыл бұрын
All this talk about redheads, I'd just like to mention Conan O'Brien here, if there's any reason to like redheads, we have one tall redhead dude who's amazing and a genius.
@tortis6342
@tortis6342 3 жыл бұрын
How could you not mention Daphne from Scooby Doo? She's iconic.
@lkf8799
@lkf8799 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't even know hating redheads was a thing until I started watching British shows. It's weird. I think it's changing though. Now they have the guy that plays Jamie in Outlander and the guy who plays Archie in Riverdale, etc. Growing up I only heard them get teased about freckles and sunburn ...?
@Aurischoice
@Aurischoice 3 жыл бұрын
Please do one on light skin blk women’s dominance in media over darker counterparts and how that also emasculates dark skin black men in the media. (Most leading black male actors have been darker, while the women are almost always light or mixed)
@bryanthealien6734
@bryanthealien6734 3 жыл бұрын
That is true. POC Women are always mix.. Its like they see full black as pure masculine energy and agressivenes.
@ravenclawthestral3964
@ravenclawthestral3964 3 жыл бұрын
@@bryanthealien6734 Yup the ‘strong black woman’ is always dark skin.
@bal9944
@bal9944 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think there's a deep explanation, medias just do not consider us attractive.
@Aurischoice
@Aurischoice 3 жыл бұрын
@@bal9944 yeah and I want them to unpack how the media has enforced this narrative.
@bal9944
@bal9944 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aurischoice yeah that would be a bit painful for me, but definitely an interesting video you are right!
@Crimson28
@Crimson28 3 жыл бұрын
Alternate title: “The Soulless Dichotomy”
@trinaq
@trinaq 3 жыл бұрын
Too true. It sort of reminds me of that episode of "South Park", with Cartman repeatedly slagging off the redheads, only to end up starting a cult of sorts.
@martinsriber7760
@martinsriber7760 3 жыл бұрын
There is no dichotomy. Everybody is soulless. Souls don't exist.
@martinsriber7760
@martinsriber7760 3 жыл бұрын
@No U I have plenty of experience with psilocybes and other psychedelics. They alter mind, they don't prove existence of soul. And your pseudophilosophical mumbling isn't convincing.
@martinsriber7760
@martinsriber7760 3 жыл бұрын
@No U I am not German.
@martinsriber7760
@martinsriber7760 3 жыл бұрын
@No U No, I just don't take your supernatural mumbo jumbo seriously. Huge difference.
@Cinnamon38
@Cinnamon38 3 жыл бұрын
Love how their videos are always so well researched and presented
@lucianavernilo5210
@lucianavernilo5210 3 жыл бұрын
Red hair in my country is so rare that whoever has it becomes practically a celebrity
@lou5956
@lou5956 3 жыл бұрын
Where are you from?
@lucianavernilo5210
@lucianavernilo5210 3 жыл бұрын
@@lou5956 brazil
@gcooper642
@gcooper642 3 жыл бұрын
People who haven't red head don't know what trouble is - Anne Shirley.
@sunspotmill1291
@sunspotmill1291 3 жыл бұрын
I never noticed how there was this double standard in portraying redheaded men and women in the media.
@alim.9801
@alim.9801 2 жыл бұрын
Just realized my celeb crush is a redhead (Ewan McGregor). I'm telling you, early 2000s Ewan McGregor is UNMATCHED 😤😤😤
@wrathsong
@wrathsong 3 жыл бұрын
Archie, redheaded man invented in the 50s, is the stereotypical boy next door. His red hair shows difference, but he's desired by the main females in the story. Although this is an outlier it should be noted that there are positive portrayals of redheaded men and have been since the 50s.
@mankytoes
@mankytoes 2 жыл бұрын
You say it should never be equated to being a person of colour, but the bullying in schools can really be similar, and is way less likely to be taken seriously by adults.
@cazbutterfly4229
@cazbutterfly4229 2 жыл бұрын
i can say thats true cuz i experienced it first hand
@lordj3793
@lordj3793 2 жыл бұрын
In anime red heads are treated better in some ways I think. The female gingers are fierce and the boys are pretty boys lol 😂
@odilejones9129
@odilejones9129 3 жыл бұрын
I’m amazed Anne from Anne with An E isn’t on here. Her relationship to her hair is such a part of her journey to self acceptance
@mintefresh6608
@mintefresh6608 3 жыл бұрын
The Take did a whole video on redheads and didn’t mention Lucille Ball once. Not a single word about “America’s Favorite Redhead”.
@Mistyfaery
@Mistyfaery 3 жыл бұрын
Also surprising that they didn't mention the odd fact that not one of these actresses is a natural redhead. Which is yet another subtle disrespect to those of us who are. 🤦‍♀️
@TheBritalianJob
@TheBritalianJob 3 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for Botticelli’s Venus when you were referencing famous art history red heads. Gutted
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