The Renovation: Episode 18 // Metal Frame Window Restoration

[@claWalou]

Hey ! I've been looking for tutorials to restore my antique green house for ages, and i just found your video which was wayy more useful than all more popular posts on youtube. Thanks a lot for all those informations, it was really helpful !

[@nancynyberg1123]

Really appreciate the tips. I’m helping a friend rehab an old house with rusty steel windows. The oscillating tool makes a huge difference. It strips paint like a champ!

[@patricecomedy]

How did your project go? Any tips you could share?

[@nancynyberg1123]

@@patricecomedy It turned out well - but one thing I learned was NOT to remove glaze that isn’t already crumbly - and to try to keep the original window panes. A few more tips - prime with Rustoleum metal primer before glazing. Use the good glaze, the Saco that is made for your windows. Keep it as cool (not cold) as you can. Mix a colorant (I used synthetic iron) to match the color you will paint the windows. That way they look pretty good while you wait for them to set up. Many KZbin videos show removing all the glass, but it turned out much better (and faster) when we left stubborn glaze and original glass in place. When you patch in and then smooth the glaze, it looks the same as if you removed all the old glaze. Also - get that bent glazing tool, made by Hyde. That angle makes a significant difference. Good luck!

[@patricecomedy]

@@nancynyberg1123 Thanks so much for responding and I'm glad to hear your project went well! I'll make a note of this and add them to my list before starting. I too have a lot of extremely hard/crumbly glazing so I am concerned I'll lose at least a few panes of glass - having never done it before - but I was also considering to find some laminated glass to benefit from better temperature control during out hot summer/cold winter and to save a few $$ on the a/c bill. I'm curious though since you said to keep the original window panes was that because of the architectural glass they used? (has that wobbly look) or is it just difficult to get that glass or is there something else I'm not considering? Thanks again!

[@nancynyberg1123]

@@patricecomedy oh, it may be different for you- we had to work on the windows in place. So bedding new glass (and finding glass cut to size, which varied from pane to d@mn pane) was such a hassle. The original glass was 3/16” and we could never find that. Do consider getting glass handling gloves if you do remove and replace. I found a pair at the local big box store and they helped save my fingers.

[@1834RestorationHouse]

Kudos for restoring the old windows! They don't make them like that anymore.

[@amywalker7515]

Drats! It was the glazing part I wanted to see!

[@shorttermhobbyist]

im restoring 9 windows in my garage that are very similar. mine are im much worse shape, there has been quite a bit of welding involved. thanks for the video!

[@nickalexander9533]

Those windows look awesome and match the look of the building perfectly! Can't wait to see it all done.

[@LiftArcStudios]

Thank you! Thats exactly why I chose to restore these old beauties! You and me both haha

[@Carol-ck2pg]

I have an old window like this with broken panes. I would really appreciate a detailed video of How To. How to remove old glaze, clean, prep and reglaze. Please share.

[@weldmachine]

The windows look great. Can,t wait to see how good they look when you finished cladding the office. Definitely worth the effort of cleaning them up. I only hope next time we see the windows. You have had time to clean the glass, lol. Very envious of this shop build. You and Wyatt have done a great job.

[@gregbarbvanschoyck9583]

Wow. Your informative video inspired my wife and me to pick up an old rusty steel casement window on eBay to sand, replace missing glass, paint and reglaze. We are going to put it in an interior wall separating our kitchen and dining room. I’m having trouble imagining how I’ll trim it out once I screw it to the rough opening. Do you have any close up photos of your finished work or can you direct me to a video or printed tutorial? Thanks.

[@ronmetz9172]

I needed to see how the metal clips were installed and if you put a thin layer of glazing between the window pane and the metal frame before you glazed the front.

[@jrich5955]

That was my need to...such detail on how to remove the paint and then to just zip through this key step. Typical and frustrating.

[@tycook]

@@jrich5955 any luck finding a video with that bit?

[@jrich5955]

@@tycook no, but I did repair the window. I just skipped the clips

[@kushwicknyc2064]

The Milwaukee oscillating tool is a great tip. I have essentially the same windows in my loft in Bushwick, Brooklyn. They are probably 100 years old and in need of a LOT of love. I doubt I will ever be able to refurbish them to the level you've taken it, but a great tutorial for me personally nonetheless. I plan on reglazing some of them in some rudimentary fashion, and somehow weatherproofing the windows. I've got one pane of safety glass where it looks like a baseball got thrown into it, probably somewhere in the 40's-60's. Definitely want to replace that. Thanks for all the great tips!

[@LiftArcStudios]

Thanks for watching! I'm sure there are other methods out there, but this seemed to work well for me. I bet your loft is beautiful!! Re-glazing is a messy practice but it's well worth it once its done. I still haven't painted the glazing black to match the other one yet haha. Cheers! - Tay

[@citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936]

@@LiftArcStudios I am fairly certain metal sash glazing compound does not soften with a propane torch, like the wood sash compound does, so the oscillating tool is a great idea. I think they make a special blade for that purpose...but use whatever works. Far better than chiselling it out. awesome channel.... I am a binging

[@giuliabrooks7192]

Wait, wait! Could you show us how to use the Milwaukee oscillation tool, and how you glaze? Do you remove ALL the rust? Thanks!

[@l.m.3095]

Amazing work. I am from Argentina and about to start restoring one that looks like this one (or worse...). Will try to follow your steps! thank you!!

[@LiftArcStudios]

Thank you, I wish you the best of luck! I was informed you are supposed to put some silicone or glazing in the frame before you put the glass in to prevent it from cracking, so you may want to look into that but mine are doing fine so far! Cheers - Tay

[@danbailey96]

When I worked maintenance of way at N&W I helped reglaze a ton of metal windows in the east end shops and at Shaffers crossing

[@LiftArcStudios]

You brave soul haha

[@garrisonh]

coming along nicely. windows look mighty fine!

[@LiftArcStudios]

Thanks a million! - Tay

[@joeygottbrath2806]

Windows look great!

[@LiftArcStudios]

Thank you good sir!

[@RotarySMP]

What a great man cave. Nice work.

[@LiftArcStudios]

Thank you! Is sure is going to be a fun place to be when we design things for customers!

[@RotarySMP]

@@LiftArcStudios Tay I really enjoy your channel, and what you are doing with that cool old shop. My channel is only about the same size as yours, but I gave you a shout out today. kzbin.info/www/bejne/in-9iHarfdR6qKM I got a real boost from a shout out from Ade kzbin.info so I hope I can pass on some of his good vibes and views. Amazing that you could still snag "The Machine Shop" is a channel name in mid 2018. Glad you got it. Mark

[@mano2432]

Terminology: glazing is the glass itself and putty is what holds it in the sash. Glazier is who installs the glass using putty.

[@mrdddeeezzzweldor5039]

So I see that this was released in August of 2020 but concerning frame clean-up after glass removal, a smaller needle scaler would get in those corners more effectively than a wire wheel and quickly chips out debris, rust, etc.

[@house9850]

we have local window folks here in california using thick low E glass on steel casements but better to use 1/4 laminated glass replacement, they are 99% UV proof and great for hot summers here in so cal. great upload thank you

[@babyeinstein2255]

The windows look great! Question: when replacing the glass panes to the steel frames, is glazing needed on both sides of the pane or just the outside?

[@jackcollins2344]

lunch time with big green egg, lets grill something

[@Chosenhunter77]

Crushing it Tay! (It’s Sam H. btw) I’ll have to swing by some day when I’m back in town! Keep it up!

[@LiftArcStudios]

Bruh, thank you! Please come by anytime! I basically live down here now so I'm easy to find haha. Onward!

[@EduardoEscobar-ub8go]

Can you fix doses types of Windows when they are in the building and you don't want to take them off the wall

[@patricecomedy]

My house has similar windows. They are beautiful for sure and I would like to keep them. I plan to reglaze and refinish the frame to make them look like new! I wonder if there is any better glass I could use for temperature control..? Either way thanks.

[@1OTDM]

Not the video creator, but I talked to a local expert who said that it entirely depends on your windows. Most steel casements do not have enough room for a double-pane insert, unfortunately, but some do! You'd have to talk to a local refinisher.

[@patricecomedy]

@@1OTDM thank you Ian!

[@ebb632]

This channel deserves a lot more attention, every video you make is well done. After the workshop is finished will you be continuing with KZbin? What will your content be focused on at that point?

[@LiftArcStudios]

Thank you so much for the kind words good sir! We ABSOLUTELY plan on continuing with youtube, in fact, we will be ramping up production. I imagine we will have a few series. One where we follow along with the fabrication projects we work on for customers, maybe a how-to series, or a unique build series. Maybe a vintage machine restoration series, who knows! Ill be hiring a friend of mine to be the full time media czar for my company to keep the fresh content coming! I'd love to hear what the youtube community would like to see too. Cheers mate - Tay

[@buddhalovechild]

word of caution- you should think about using ventilation and gloves when working with wood alcohol.

[@essjaycea]

If you don’t mind me asking, how long did it take you to reglaze the glass into the frame?

[@luistobar7]

What is the approximate price for something like that?

[@louisrogers3842]

Hello, where did you find these windows?

[@curtiszeitelhack981]

But soft, what light through yonder window breaks? :D Shakespeare would have liked your windows too. Great job!

[@LiftArcStudios]

Just beautiful sir...

[@christiblackley3820]

Aren’t they upside down? Section that opens should be reachable!

[@LiftArcStudios]

They are absolutely upside down, there's a reason for that. The mechanism is messed up so it actually works better this way.

[@StahlFirearmsNo2]

How much does this cost per windows?

[@LiftArcStudios]

Hard to say. I was able to reuse some of the glass, and i didnt do as good of a job as i would have done if i was restoring this window for someone else. I also had access to glass cutting equipment from my old employer. I will say that the whole job took about 4 days. You figure $50/hr minimum x 32 = $1600. Depends on what the worker or window shop may charge. Cheers, - Tay

[@MrScanboltron]

Anyone know how to install the clips on these? He does it around 13:57

[@LiftArcStudios]

Theyre not that hard to do, once you set the glass in the frame, you poke one leg of the clip into the hole in the frame and tuck a little nub down between the glass and the frame. Its hard to explain but if you have the window, the glass and the clips in front of you, you should be able to figure it out. This was my first time doing it and it wasnt too bad. It also helps if you have the old window to dismantle, you can see how theyre done. Good luck! - Tay

[@stephengardipee5980]

I have 12 of the smaller version of these windows. I am cleaning them up and am going to install new glass. I watched this video so I could see how to install the clips and install the glazing. What was anyone supposed to learn from watching this video.

[@asdfwer1234]

17:30 Had to laugh harder than i should

[@LiftArcStudios]

We like the low hanging fruit around here haha - Tay

[@marjoriebull652]

Here's me thinking I'm going to learn how to install those damned clips. Shoulda known better. I go to my local hardware store to buy some, and they don't have a clue what I'm asking about. So I call the local window repair shop, and they claim they don't know, either. (I think that they're just giving me b.s. because they don't want to be bothered with a small job like mine.) But meanwhile back at the ranch, I've got the local code enforcement officer crawling all over me because I've got a broken window and wildlife is getting into my garage. 😞 What's an old woman to do? -- Can you please make a video just about that--how to do the glazing part with the clips? I see comments from other people in this thread wanting this same information. Maybe I could "just figure it out" if I could even get the clips--what do I ask for? Who sells them? (since apparently the local hardware place doesn't.) Pretty please, with peaches on top?

[@LiftArcStudios]

Every once in a while we get questions about this video! It's been a few years since Tay restored that window frame, but I'll ask him what he remembers and if he'd be willing to do a quick little video addressing these questions! Thanks for watching! - Walker

[@jimurrata6785]

You realize those lites are probably $3 each. What's your time and effort worth? Not to mention dozens of razor blades and gallons of alcohol. Its only new once.

[@LiftArcStudios]

I dont think you've tried to locate these metal frame industrial windows. They're getting harder and harder to find and they're selling for a pretty penny. I got a great deal on these and I am the kind of person who finds a great deal of satisfaction in restoring something that was close to being scrapped. I know its not new, i don't want new, the building is 100 years old, new would look weird. Maybe used a half of a tin of alcohol and maybe 10 razor blades. What do you work on Jim? You must be a hoot at parties...

[@jimurrata6785]

@@LiftArcStudios I'm not trying to be argumentative Tag. And I know how much warehouse/factory Windows in salvageable condition cost! How many lites are their in each? 16? (Example) @ $3 you'd be in for less than $50 and they would be clear and NEW. At 6 minutes to clean each one it would take over an hour and a half... plus supplies How much is your equity worth? If you're into it for a sense of accomplishment, or some artisanal aesthetic , then kudos! Your windows look great! And I can see the efforts you put into them. My comment was merely there to because I ponder what didn't get done. You're going to the glass shop anyhow for the missing pieces. They're likely all the same size.... Don't get me wrong. I think it's AWESOME that you are breathing new life into an old space (and making it Yours!) Maybe I'm too pragmatic. I see it like I'm paying that mortgage every month. But it's not working for me until it's *working* for me. My best wishes for you, your project, and your future together. Live long and prosper.

[@ebb632]

@@jimurrata6785 This whole project could have been quickly and easily done by hiring a contractor, but its clear that Tay loves doing all this himself for the experience and the sense of achievement.

[@jimurrata6785]

@@ebb632 Oh no doubt! And I'm glad to see him re-creating a space for his future (whatever that may look like) But if I had an old machine shop that I wanted to make into *my* shop I wouldn't spend hours of my day dicking around scraping panes when I had to get a bunch of new ones anyhow. There's PLENTY of work to be done without making more for yourself . Much as I like Tay and his channel it seems more like an idle pastime than a passion or something to accomplish, as a spring board for the career he envisions.

[@ebb632]

@@jimurrata6785 The way I see it is that he's quite comfortable economically and he has no need to rush into things, he wants to enjoy the process of getting set up as much as actually working in the space. Another thing is that he gets to make more videos about the process if he does it all himself. Regardless, his videos are really entertaining and I'm sure the end results will be worth it.

[@danielchild5205]

You don't explain what you're doing. High-speed video doesn't help.

[@smithbrownjones]

*putty * putty knife

[@Coleen_West]

You are supposed to be "getting away from your father's mistakes"?? What the actual F would that be exactly? Sounds like some self-hate male bashing. What "mistakes" did your fathers make exactly?