The Repair of Early Trauma: A Bottom Up Approach

[@HelenOakwater]

Fantastic resource for anyone who wants to see beyond the presenting behaviour of a child who experienced maltreatment. Teachers, therapists, parents, social workers. Grab a quick cuppa and get a massive learning.

[@gavinc.s.1839]

I am a 45 year old man. And I an writing this in tears as this young man has just explained so much about myself. Thankyou. One love. And I send all you who think you are alone my love and prayers that you are sent Angels to let you know your are all loved. You are not alone.

[@kimmoir6915]

Bless you, Bob. Me too.

[@jld4870]

Gods bless you Bob, may the comfort of the Holy Spirit fill you with peace. I too cry I too mourn I too know that God comforts those who mourn. May you be blessed with safe places that accept ‘the lil boy’

[@jld4870]

Oops not done: Safe places and people who will hold your pain with you, and allow you to mourn. Our tears are counted…🤗🙏❤️

[@Lescandalefinir]

Thank you.

[@tobsternater]

neither are you. We are a community born to thrive not just be survivors....I believe! (54 yrs of age)

[@healcptsd6467]

I am a deeply traumatized male child of 56 who two years ago finally had to give up my survival strategies. In short, those had mainly been being a victim/looser in narcissistic relationships, a people pleaser trying to escape into grandiose fantasies/projects/activities..., pretty narcissistic/borderline....... Being, rather old, all alone with alienated children, no job and a very toxic family of origin this ain´t easy but this way of understanding, cause and cure, is what have kept me alive and moving even though I, until just a week ago, have had no regular support at all in real life. I will spread this wonderful clip!

[@lauraleemoderndaysamaritan4137]

ACA 12 step meetings are a great support as is InTheRooms.com. There you will find more support through online ACA meetings and also a trauma support group.

[@cinmac3]

We think too much. Nature has the answer. We are f finding out one day Art a time, too the rooms can be a waiting room, I guess, but, the answer keep Your eyes open 🤔🤗

[@fingerprint5511]

@@cinmac3 how trite.

[@hotdiggitydogstulsa6369]

There is hope outside your soul realm...I am praying for the healing and overcoming power in you need. Scientists, Doctors, Therapists are all so necessary and yet you are also made of spirit that anchors you in Your Creator who is the Origin of Love. Human love is often imperfect, but God's is not. Seek every place within for healing to be integrated replete in love and forgiveness. :) You are Spirit, Soul,and Body.

[@Micro41]

I am the same as you. Have you found any professional to help you? 70 yo male.

[@mariahlove7357]

Wonderful to know. I suffered 9 years of child abuse from 6 to 15. My stepmother would fill up a bathtub and hold my head under water back and forth. She did it a couple of times, my father also would beat me leaving with black eyes, injuries to my to my ears from pulling, or threw me on the floor and had a few injuries. Life was hard but I managed to survive and live through this damaged brain. Today I'm 44.

[@claudiaturroortega]

Thank you for sharing your story. You are a brave human being!

[@josephbelisle5792]

There is so much right about this video and so much wrong. The simple basis of the video, children reading it who obviously dont understand it, and that it talks about addressing these major mental and emotional issues in childhood. The definition of a traumatic childhood is not having the resources to get help. Most people dont work out that their childhood was toxic till much later in life. I agree that we need to work together in all aspects of anyones life who have CPTSD, but that is far from the reality of people with CPTSD. I agree completely that everyone, literally everyone needs a working knowledge of trauma in order to prevent it as much as possible and to know how to help anyone suffering from it. This video has great facts and is very informative. But it is so wrong on so many points. As a 58 yo man who has suffered an extremely toxic childhood and the resulting life that it gives you, full recovery may never be possible. The best chance we stand is for mental health science to realize that we need something we cant get for ourselves. We need mental health professionals to aid us by providing someone who can help us rewire our brains. Someone integral to our lives that we can trust as to allow us to undo the damage. Not just trauma therapy. Ive had years of trauma therpay and it has done wonders. But it has done nothing to change my interpretation of relationships and others. It is next to impossible for us to develop relationships. My brain is literally organized to avoid dangerous contact, relationships, and it constantly misinterprets signals from other people and sometimes properly interprets positive signals as dangerous, and sends out danger signals to potential relationships. Getting family (my abusers) to understand and help is impossible. Great video in talking about what trauma does to a developing mind but very poorly conceived when considering a plan of action in the real world of toxic environments. Its rare to identify CPTSD in children as we have adapted and covered so well. That toxic envrionment by its nature defeats this plan provided in the video. Just as we dont see universal healthcare in the US, you will not see money allocated towards trauma/mental health education. Society spends its money on its morality. Imagine a nation of mentally healthy citizens. Would the current power structure stand? We could not tolerate it. Its going to take a fundamental shift. One that is already occuring, Slowly. Which is too bad for myself and the millions like me. Healthcare will not catch up in time for us. We have barely evolved from state hospitals.

[@luckystone2293]

I wish I wouldn't relate to everything you wrote.

[@stimpetta]

What a great thing you have made. It's coherent clear and concise. I parent two traumatised children and this is useful reminder of how to help them.

[@ingridregenass]

Wonderful work - so informative and accessible. Thank you so much for sharing this amazing gift. I felt quite emotional listening to it. I experienced developmental trauma as a child growing up and it has affected every aspect of my 62 years of life. How different my life may have been if I had this kind of support. You are making the difference in many people's lives with your work.

[@jld4870]

YESS!!! We finally have understanding that can facilitate mass healing, should we choose. God help us all! 🙏🤗❤️

[@kimpuchek1956]

Keep breathing and keep going forward. I’m recognizing how much I can still learn to heal my own traumas that I have experienced in my life. This short understandable presentation is loaded with precious nuggets to help me keep choosing better ways to handle my self in relationships with others and with myself. Finding my safe place is a journey that I am willing to take now. At least having an understanding of how I got here allows me to find forgiveness and grace for myself first and foremost.

[@miriru93]

Before we are adults, we are children. My developmental trauma has led me to complex trauma. That’s like a trauma onion at the age of 28. I’ve been stuck in freeze my entire life, started therapy at 23, ended up in a hospital at 25. It’s hell.

[@dellahhilburn1891]

❤

[@michaellizotte6648]

Simply Perfect. Thank you to all those who produced this. I have been preaching this message for years and now it seems we may just begin a movement of change. I never understood the science until late but have always known it will take the village of informed citizens to bring about an end to toxic stress in homes. Keep the conversation alive and flowing. Thank you once again! I will surely share this. It is gold!

[@alant.2681]

Excellent video, gives a baseline for where your child is and how to help them. This can be applied to teens as well. The voice of the child keeps you engaged.

[@jasonhaymanonthedrawingboard]

This sounds a little like my upbringing. No wonder I have so many issues as an adult. Brain damage is an interesting prognosis, this has done better than any doc. I almost worried I’ve passed it on to my little one with out realising. Burdened with all the worldly expectations I might truly have missed the right response. All parents fail there children when we become blinded by need. Especially those parent who have suffered and perhaps still suffering. Not all cases of neglect are as clear cut. Not all the evidence is readily available as an when it is required. We live ignorance if confined to our own skulls. This has been very enlightening. Not only for me but but for me helping out my child. So I will be incredibly thankful for finding this resource. It been a pleasure can I say thank you, namaste 🙏 and have a nice day.

[@marlenebird6874]

A wonderful explanation of early trauma and how we can heal from it. I had trauma from the womb onward, physically, emotionally and mentally. My life dramatically improved when I became involved in the healing arts and started giving and receiving bodywork. I still struggle to find that sense of safety, and healthy attachment. In my 63rd year on this earth, I navigate life better each year by God’s grace and my determination. A side note trying to find home, school, and clinic that's all on the same page has to be a real challenge. All three of mine were wonky!

[@jld4870]

Starts with knowing God loves us just as we are! He blessed me many years ago to tell myself it’s ok to not be ok-considering the challenging environment I came from. I have read prayed read and prayed for many years, with all the new trauma info and movement I actually feel more hopeful. I’m 61…

[@MB-yo1be]

@@jld4870 yup God choose the womb for me to be created in and guides me in my daily ebb and flow of life here on earth 🤩

[@carolkewley7410]

As other commenters have said, where's the help for adult survivors of trauma?

[@mabenstein1]

I would think that even though we are adults outwardly, our brains are still the child we were when our trauma occurred.

[@lauraleemoderndaysamaritan4137]

I have found that Adult Children of Alcoholic/Dysfunctional Families 12 step support meetings are helpful. This 12 step program addresses the trauma of the inner child and teaches how to become our own loving parent. We cannot go back and undo what was done, but, we can learn tools to apply in the here and now. Adult Children of Alcoholics has a website, there you will find materials and a meeting list along with phone meeting list if you cannot attend a face to face meeting. hope this helps you in your journey of healing your authentic beautiful self!

[@amandaserena2007]

@@mabenstein1 oh yeah. My emotions are stuck at two when the severe attachment trauma happened. I still emotionally feel that age and have been unable to feel emotions since. Even my movements are similar to a two year old. Meaning i use the same muscle patterns a two year old uses to do things. I'm not stupid though. Im very intelligent intellectually. But i have brain damage. I've been trying so hard to heal and get better. But im alone and been alone for so long because my fears and worries about being seen for how broken i am keep me isolated.

[@JT0007]

@@amandaserena2007 Take a test for borderline personality disorder. Then learn about CBT. You can’t fix it but you can get much closer than you are today. You’ll thank me later-good luck!

[@Paid2Win]

@@amandaserena2007 Hey Amanda, I'm a young man who experiences everything you just described. You aren't alone. The whole intelligent but damaged thing is something I have tried to express.

[@matthow5591]

Wish someone was able to do this for me as a child...

[@carolkewley7410]

And how.

[@DarkMoonDroid]

Someone spotted the problem for me when I was in grade school all the way back in the 70's. But when she asked my Mom if she would be interested in learning some different ways to talk to me when I'm not responding the way she wants, Mom stuck her nose up and said, _"I don't see why, since what I do works!"_ and took me by the hand and we left. That was the closest I got to intervention. Because this (U.S.) is a "Free Country" and people are "free" to parent however they want short of beating kids to death and keeping them locked up in a cage, there is nothing more they could have legally done to solve the problem. And frankly, I don't see how any sort of idealistic plan like this can be put in place. Abusers who don't know they are Abusers _don't want to know_ that they are Abusers. Over half a Century of abuse and poverty and horror later, I'm dying of Cancer at 56. I tried so hard to overcome and to make people happy.... What a fucking waste.

[@MarlonWilliams1]

J Carver Hi can you point me in the direction to get this data as I’m interested. I’m guessing initially the higher cancer rates would be down to producing so much of the stress hormone cortisol

[@nikigardner8412]

@@DarkMoonDroid I have just become aware of this therapy. I hope you are still alive. I am sorry for the hurt you have felt. I am 48 and still making peace with a similar childhood. I understand your anger and wish you well.

[@jld4870]

@@DarkMoonDroid words are inadequate…I pray others come into your world who will sit, will listen will comfort you. ❤️

[@ThefosterpracticeUk]

What a wonderful animation, brilliantly explaining how trauma impacts the young brain and what work needs to be done and how. The most difficult bit is pronouncing some of those words - nice work Joshua and Kate!!

[@martinpepperell8424]

Maybe it would be good if the video makers could drop some of those technical terms and stick with plain English? Great work, thanks!

[@e_i_e_i_bro]

The visuals and narration are perfect.

[@hotdiggitydogstulsa6369]

Brilliantly supplied. Blessings with thanksgiving...

[@martinpepperell8424]

Great video. Do you have anything for traumatised adults to work with?

[@esterherschkovich6499]

Amazing and so helpful.Even as adults,our inner child,traumas still needs healing..I like the practical way to explain it to us.

[@rachelsimbhu3965]

Resonates deeply , my childhood traumas experiences ! Keep up the good work darling

[@kpatino6197]

Fantastic resource, would love some more please. Very useful for working with adults and children alike, this reflects a lot of my training as a Social Work student

[@frederiquegeorges571]

Absolutely wonderful presentation and list of resources on the website. *****

[@user-lu2wu4kz2l]

this is great. its really good children this young have this knowledge.

[@Cherriboberry]

Thank you for sharing this super important work!

[@pam2245]

Thank you, very well presented.

[@carolmcbrideonline]

Wonderful animation and resource. Shared on my page, The Trauma Project. Thank you!

[@paulaoppedisano3685]

What a wonderful presentation from a very intelligent young man.

[@akasha11111]

I like your work and also the work of Gabor Maté. In almost every podcast or workshop Gabor Maté would ask someone: when was the last time you felt anger? The person describes that situation and Gabor asks: how does it make you feel? In other words: what does it mean about you? Then he would challenge that perception with other possible explanations of what happened. Finally Gabor would ask when was the first time you had this perception of not being good enough, coming from childhood. Maté says your brain jumped automatically to that explanation/perception. So it seems to me that Gabor Maté considers a trigger as a top-down approach where thoughts create an emotion, when in fact it’s stored material which comes up first (that was once in the past created by a perception). Gabor explores other explanations, so questioning the belief, but it’s stored material (that was once created by a perception, but that already happened before). Now it’s already in the body, so isn’t that what you work with? (bottom-up approach of Somatic Experiencing)

[@MSANABANANA80]

wow! I thank Miss Leanne for showing me beacon house!

[@riceexperiment]

I've tried to get the stable environment with trauma aware grown ups because I believe in this healing. But the problem is lack of teacher awareness, lack of childcare provider awareness even lack of physicians awareness.

[@suefisher7866]

Really helpful. Share widely!

[@kimisaacs5552]

great to have this little video.... I am someone who needs visual to learn.Its clear accessible and succinct. Please though spell THEIR correctly!

[@RachelMac-l5p]

That’s very helpful, thank you! I heard Dr. Perry speak in a 3 day conference in Regina a few yeasts ago. It was very enlightening. I wonder now, is there a way to use these principles to heal adults who have been traumatized as kids?

[@maireadk5574]

What if i never got help as a child as was repeating traumas until very recently ?

[@jonniemaemiddletonlotte6747]

Thank you Dr. Bruce Perry.

[@radicalhonesty3628]

I try and watch this video but my mind is so distracted, I'm in sheer paralyzed traumatized overwhelming panic. I've got no money. what the fuck am I going to do? I'm in terror. I am absolutely desperate for a miracle...

[@Adoptiepraktijk]

Wonderful!!! Thank you so much for making this! We can bring in Sensorimotor Psychotherapy too, next to EMDR, DDP, Theraplay and such - wonderful! Thanks very much

[@maireadk5574]

This makes me so sad because i am this child but am 44 and alone

[@krystellegibson9614]

Hello, it is sad that you feel alone. Perhaps there is a community group or a group therapy you can get involved with to help you establish some community around you. Sport clubs, craft groups, theatre, music, art, all sorts of groups run and it can be a great start. It can be hard going to these at first when you don't know anyone but eventually you will find the right group. Good luck!

[@Eric-tj3tg]

I feel you. 52, and while not as of yet diagnosed with a health malady, my body is quite certainly "keeping the score". My best your way.

[@amandaserena2007]

Same. 36 been trying to heal severe attachment trauma since i was 28. Im also alone. I know if i just had one person to love me and be patient and understanding, i could figure this out. But i have no one. My brain is damaged but i know i could heal if i just had someone, anyone who could love me.

[@reg8297]

Me too I'm 48

[@reg8297]

@@amandaserena2007 bless. U im in same boat

[@peterdeneke8401]

What about adults that have had developmental trauma?

[@AmplitudePortraiture]

Try Nam myoho renge kyo, a Buddhist mantra. It helps me so much:) (with the SGI)

[@Kafabi]

Very well explained! I like it ! Thanks!

[@elinbirgis]

And if you were that child but never got any help getting the brain back to developing normally what should one do to survive?

[@Love.IsTheAnswer]

Find a therapist who specializes is PTSD, Trauma, EMDR and uses Dr. Perry’s model of therapy. Use PsychologyToday.com Therapy Finder tool. Enter PTSD and EMDR into the Therapies Field to limit responses to specialists. Then call/email to set a consultation up and ask if they use Dr Perry’s Neurosequential Model. This is where one needs a talented, well trained professional. Regular talk therapists are essential in they’re own right, but healing complex, fear based, brain development altering issues, requires properly trained professionals.

[@craz4jaymz]

Don't survive but live. I too lead a life of surviving until recently when I did some intense meditation and spoke to myself. Basically, my inner child doesn't want me to thrive in life because then I wouldn't be on high alert. I thanked it for keeping me safe and told it that although I needed that when I was young, I don't now that I am an adult and that it is to my best interest now to be calm and happy. So now, I am always aware when I am at survival mode and sooth my fears by reminding it that I am safe. I am also practicing being grateful. You can't be fearful and grateful at the same time. It will send a signal to your brain that you are safe and to calm down. Also listen to a lot of calming music and be out in nature, especially at night. What I do is look at the stars while listening to songs that make me feel safe and loved.

[@sewinggirl2700]

Thank you Elin Jona, I am in the same boat, you just asked my question. I have been doing a great deal of healing and the books that have helped me are Waking the Tiger and Pete Walker's book Complex PTSD: From surviving to thriving. I wish you healing you sweet child and you are not alone. Love and peace to you.

[@sewinggirl2700]

@@Love.IsTheAnswer Thank you, I will do this as well.

[@deborahbaker1254]

Wish they did this for adults too.

[@dartcree8185]

I'm no longer a child. How, as an adult, do you get fixed? Attachment styles: I *STILL* do this at age 70. I'm jsut more thoughtful and slower about doing it. Sometimes. What is a relationships? I can't read a room. I don't read body language. I miss half the stuff that is going on. AFAIK no one has ever made a pass at me.

[@yayajacobs9727]

Well done! Thank you for this video. 😊

[@lashellemarlow]

Absolutely extraordinary

[@Lyrehc-Soul-Healing]

This is devastating. 😢

[@LittleWarriorsCanada]

Hi there, Thank you for your psychoeducational videos. We often use them in the work we do and appreciate how informative they are! However, we wanted to bring something to your attention: At the end of your "Repair of Early Trauma: A Bottom Up Approach" video, there are two agencies referenced: Beacon House (yourselves), and InnerWorld Work. Unfortunately, the link provided for InnerWorld Work leads to an inappropriate, sexually explicit site. Might there be a way to cut the final 15 seconds or so off of the video? We appreciate the work you do, and wanted to make you aware. Best, Little Warriors

[@soniarodrigues4716]

Is it possible to permit translation, please?

[@drkerryashton-shaw486]

absolutely excellent! Thank you

[@TheRandomINFJ]

6:08 I wish 'their' was spelled correctly.

[@ElsebelseElsbeth]

How can I ever help my adopted child, sitting here in Germany, where I don't have access to people who understands all this. I don't get the help I need with my secondary trauma and my son and we as perants don't get the help he needs with his cptsd... I'm sooooo helpless and our life is often a living hell...

[@grievingchris]

Hallo. Erstmal möchte ich Ihnen sagen, dass mir Ihre Erfahrung Leid tut. :( Es gibt zu wenige, die in unserer Gesellschaft über Trauma und dessen Folgestörungen aufgeklärt sind, obwohl eigentlich jeder in seinem Leben damit in Berührung kommt. Wenn nicht selbst durch eine Erfahrung oder Erkrankung, dann mit anderen Menschen, die Trauma erfahren haben und erkrankt sind. Ich bin auch Deutsche & bin vor 3½ Jahren während meinem Abitur mit der kPTBS erkrankt. Nun bringt mir mein Abi nichts, weil nur die Grundsicherung für mich übrig bleibt. Aber mit den 3 Stunden, die ich täglich arbeiten kann, möchte ich mich selbstständig machen und träume davon ein Netzwerk aufzubauen von Ärzten, Eltern, Pflegekräften, die über Trauma aufgeklärt sind. Ich bin selbst gesegnet mit einer super Traumatherapeutin! Und ich würde voll gern schauen, ob meine Bekannten oder meine Ärztin vermitteln kann, damit Sie Hilfe bekommen, wenn Sie das möchten. Liebe Grüße aus dem Westerwald.

[@ElsebelseElsbeth]

@@grievingchris Das ist ja nett! Uns geht es inzwischen vor allem dank guter (hauptsächlich englisch sprachiger Literatur) besser. Gut geht aber immer noch anders... Daher können wir immer Hilfe brauchen 😊 Wir wohnen im äußersten Südwesten Deutschlands und sind leider wenig mobil. Falls du aber Ideen hast, wer einem Kind mit komplexer Traumafolgestörung / frühkindlichem Trauma helfen kann, immer her damit!

[@earthart2010]

What if you’re an adult and you have DCT? I have done EMDR.

[@earthminus10]

That support group is a little extended for many of us many won't seek therapy many don't have family and if they do have family there unsupportive it's all very nice sounding little bit Limited

[@PatriotMediaGroup]

this is a brilliant explanation

[@lelamoore7178]

thank you.

[@marisolarancibia3972]

Para verlo en español?

[@myrnamartin1831]

this is a great review...

[@maireadk5574]

Can you please subtitle for those of us with hearing issues?

[@BeaconHouseTeam]

Thank you Mairead this is absolutely on our list of things we need to do, unfortunately we had to temporarily turn the subtitles off for this animation as it was giving incorrect information. Please bear with us and we will get this done.

[@odilemotte5126]

Useful video but yoou might want to sort out the spellings of sepAration and their

[@ilovemexoxo5720]

loved this I learned a lot :)

[@gemmajones3014]

Star Chyld333 yes me to

[@user-bd4bo4tb8u]

So do I behave (feel) like an incompetent child in hope that I'll be kept alive by other "real" adults?

[@marshacreary2442]

Very Informative

[@user-lu2wu4kz2l]

normally the people who should help you recover are the ones that did the damage

[@amandaserena2007]

I've begged them to help me. They won't. They won't even acknowledge anything is wrong. They blame it on my genetics. It's horrible. They say it's a behavior issue because my donor was an alcoholic. Even though I've shown them proof of cptsd and rad. They let me live with it my whole life and took things out on me. They'd never admit anything was wrong.

[@user-lu2wu4kz2l]

@@amandaserena2007 and they won't and you know what? That's ok. Let them live in there bubble of lies. You are living in trueness. It would be nice if they did but they don't and never will. We can only help ourselves. We can't help people who don't want to be helped

[@internetname4957]

The unfortunate reality is that the kind of child habitually exposed to ACEs will unlikely have the kind of family that will help them to repair this.

[@amandaserena2007]

That my problem. Im 36 and have severe attachment trauma from abuse and neglect in early early childhood. I then had chronic abuse throughout childhood. My disability forces me to isolate and i have no relationship with the people who contributed to making me this way. If i just had one or two people who gave me love and understanding I know i could get better quickly. I don't know what to do to help myself. I've been working on it since i was 28 and the progress is soo slow. I wish i had a female role model to show me how to regulate and how a healthy brain works.

[@owen2002]

@@amandaserena2007 The book letting go by David Hawkins might help you in dealing with emotions. It has helped me

[@erikbradford456]

Worse than than is to have a system in place like child support schools and other ignorant self willed self seeking arrogant know it falls who should not be allowed to watch rocks let alone children.

[@angie4516]

This! It’s usually the parents causing the trauma…

[@dellahhilburn1891]

@@angie4516 yes

[@odilemotte5126]

Fantastic video but you mighgt want to correct the spellings of sepAration and their

[@jenbradford]

I think the misspelled words are on purpose because they are written from the child's perspective. At first I thought it was a mistake, but looking at the way the words are written, I noticed it was meant to look like a child's writing.

[@tracik1277]

Regardless of opinions, correct spelling would teach kids and adults correct spelling.

[@PawsAndBreathe]

But of course no real instructions on how to do that like every other KZbin video 🙄

[@krystellegibson9614]

Applying therapy is a very specialised thing that takes lots of training. The best place to start would be finding a therapist who works with this model and they can advise on what techniques should be employed at home or in the classroom. Each child is different and what works for them will be different so it's hard to give a generalised "solution". I suggest looking into grounding, mindfulness as they tend to be commonly used behavioural management techniques. Also reading some books on childhood trauma would be your best help in getting an idea of how to help a child. But it's always safest to consult a professional :)

[@m.2768]

I would like to see It in italian language.

[@alishaholmes9620]

what about Genetics? Do you not think that this plays a part in the behaviour of children..

[@jld4870]

It’s not what is wrong with you it is WHAT happened to you!

[@Robin-bk2lm]

Why make us try to understand the children's voices? They don't enunciate well, compared to adults.

[@BunnyKnum1]

Children do not need to be labelled, this is awful language!!!

[@DRnab1983]

Looks like pseudo science to me

[@yesnotesinfo]

... so it covers what science didn't manage to solve yet.

[@bkbee5010]

Shame on god

[@Quinefan]

Bk Bee You just captured the fullness of the tragedy. And yet this video is about hope. Let's keep hoping.

[@XRXONE]

God heals and has a plan for you

[@attheranch4876]

@@XRXONE The plan is for people to help each other.

[@yesnotesinfo]

God is only a disappointment to those who see god as a Person. Manitu for example is non-personal, so I guess such issues are not taken "personal" as well.