The Republic's FIRST CIVIL WAR and Why the Galaxy Was NEVER the Same - Republic History #4

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[@lolll3360]

IT BAFFLES ME how large the star wars universe is ,but the movies stay on the same handful of played out planets 🙄

[@ramenbomberdeluxe4958]

Let’s be fair, even the movies can only focus on so much at a time. But you’re right, more variety would help, even if it’s just one or two new focal planets.

[@compmanio36]

@@ramenbomberdeluxe4958 Worse, when they do focus on a new planet, it's not drawing from the rich established lore, it's making up something new that's basically "Not Tatooine".

[@mistermidnight1823]

That's exactly been my experience. The main series are way too limited; my brain craves expansive stories with deep lore and multiple points of view; not the same handful of characters on the same handful of planets... IT'S BORING!

[@FYAjibber000]

I rather enjoy the impossibly singular ecosystems we see on each planet....only Naboo seemingly had an ecological diversity with swamps, oceans/huge lakes, and rolling grasslands

[@Blackdeathgaming-yv1kk]

To be fair, this isn't Disney canon but part of the old EU aka legends which Disney threw away.

[@klamburglar3496]

"Corellia, meanwhile, just kinda did its own thing" The history of Corellia in a nutshell.

[@maxaudet5177]

Until the 2nd galactic civil war

[@thalmoragent9344]

Based Correllia

[@NovoCognition]

Ah, the first Alsakan Conflicts. Starting 17,000+ years long tradition of their being periods of civil war between Coruscant demanding increased centralization, a confederation of other worlds demanding increased decentralization, and Corellia just building ships, crafting industrial goods, and for the most part minding it's own business until the very end of each conflict. "It's like poetry, it rhymes."

[@ADGZone]

Why do I always read it as "Alaskan"?

[@NovoCognition]

@@ADGZone ; Because it has the exact same letter, just that the 2nd "a" & the s adjacent to it are swapped. And you're not the only one. When I type out "Alsakan" the KZbin typo detector keeps on trying to change it to "Alaskan".

[@mateuszjokiel2813]

I mean they've got a point. Fuck 'em.

[@mistermidnight1823]

Oh my God Corellia is the Star Wars Galaxy's true villain

[@randomrevanite8810]

Coruscant and Alsakan spending thousands of years punching each other in the face Corellia- takes a shot of Spice "Wanna see if I can survive blind jumping into the Void kid?"

[@zexalbrony4799]

This series is still going on, a surprise to be sure, but a welcomed one.

[@geetslys]

Why is it a surprise?

[@zexalbrony4799]

@@geetslys Because, I could have sworn someone asked you in the comment of another video sometime after part 3 if you were going to continue this series, but you said no because there just weren't that many people interested in it. Of course, I could be miss remembering.

[@derrickstorm6976]

@@geetslys bruh it has been almost a year since the last part

[@joeclark1893]

Last time I was this early the Rakatan Infinite Empire still controlled the galaxy

[@geetslys]

That's pretty early.

[@blackshogun272]

Last time I was this early, Cold Dande Sine was eyeing the Ongree race and Gungan civilization on Lehon...

[@derrickstorm6976]

OK boomer

[@marshalllatta2073]

The republic civil wars are so freaking cool so much epic battles in Star wars

[@geetslys]

Yes!!!

[@jamesmeade5490]

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[@jamesmeade5490]

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[@jamesmeade5490]

@@geetslys oi

[@jamesmeade5490]

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[@inquisitorgarza312]

Ironically the Galactic Republic’s will later be similar to that of a Confederation rather than a centralized government it claim to be. Though considering that the Galactic Republic’s was a massive organization that span the Galaxy one must never underestimate how large and unpredictable it can be, and the fact that the Galactic Republic’s lasted for twenty seven thousand years is something to admire, compared to its successor government of the Galactic Empire didn’t even last a quarter of a century.

[@CollinMcLean]

Undoubtedly. 27,000 years is certainly nothing to scoff at. I feel though the problem with the Republic was much like that of Rome, it became too big to effectively govern and police. Towards the Clone Wars a huge reform to their bureaucracy (Anyone else have a really hard time spelling that word?) would've been to have divided it up into multiple smaller administrative units with their own Senates that would've reported to a central government.

[@thalmoragent9344]

​​@@CollinMcLean Yeah, have perhaps 3 or 5 major sections of the Republic, all united with a few basic laws and have their own systems running with self sustainability, but still benefiting from being united as one overlying entity

[@dolphinwarlord6908]

I feel so sorry for Alsakan. They were just bullied by corosont.

[@hunterkiller1440]

This is why Prequel expanded universe will always be better than anything after ROTJ/Mandalorian

[@goodmind4940]

yuuzhan vong war?

[@EternalEmperorofZakuul]

@@goodmind4940 love them

[@caitlinmiller359]

Always is a long time 👀

[@tylermitch7297]

Facts

[@nicky6effect]

Have you ever heard the tragedy of the imperial civil war? I suppose not... It's not a tale the republic would tell you. . The imperial factions all had super fascinating characters and kept the galaxy in constant flux.. up to the Vong War.. super cool stuff

[@marsar1775]

Always fun to see ancient republic lore

[@_Nohan_]

I’m a supporter of the Alsakani because a Galatic Confederation would’ve been cooler and be more efficient than the Republic was.

[@traviskenny3712]

Your sounding like a separatist

[@_Nohan_]

@@traviskenny3712 Yes.

[@BigMrEv]

Last time i was this late, the resistance bombers arrived with me.

[@potatosinnato1767]

Finally the series is back, keep it up this is my favorite series!

[@TacitPoseidon]

Alsakan and Coruscant: *Struggling to make their culture the dominant one* Corellia: Da fuck they doin ova der?

[@TheJasonDonald]

I’ll side with the neutral isolationist Corollians instead of joining the other two factions. Let them argue with one another for all I care for. Though awesome video by the way!

[@joseph0998]

It’s insane how much effort is put into the Star Wars universe

[@jeremyhull3177]

Well it’s a series with material being added to it for nearly 50 years with a lot of brilliant authors adding to it over the years

[@Mrs.Grave5433]

And Disney through it all away (1978-2013). I will admit Darth Vader's 2015 comic series for the most part is pretty good, in all fairness.

[@Mrs.Grave5433]

And Disney through it all away (1978-2013). I will admit Darth Vader's 2015 comic series for the most part is pretty good, in all fairness.

[@Karlos1234ify]

“ Bounty hunters! We don't need their scum."

[@EdaugEthanbYT]

Let me guess the galaxy was never the same after the first civil war because it’s the only one where Palpatine wasn’t the Senate

[@salavantias1948]

Facts. Its why all following Republics after The Senate failed within 30 years. Almost every 10-20 in legends.

[@geetslys]

Yup.

[@forthencholordofadmirals2763]

Where is this video about picking up twileks at bars ?. Also I'm super happy you're back to doing these vids again I missed them

[@PsyKotyK]

Some of those pictures are amazing . Would make great puzzles.

[@neofulcrum5013]

Looking at the wars on our one world feels so small compared to the constant wars in Star Wars.

[@1000nod]

they had 400 years of peace, we barely had 10 on the earth

[@indianhacker9062]

Fiorella Tyrell eventually but not in my life time

[@mikeg2009]

Our wars are real lmao

[@ThaOneChrisJONES]

@Fiorella Tyrell Not to mention people who religiously believe in conspiracy theories that literally center around the world uniting being a plot lead by Satan to lead a one world "NWO" government. There will never be "unity" or "peace" on this planet. lol

[@marcinmarszaek3813]

You know it is bad when a civil war lasts for literall centuries and they don't really come to a close. And honestly, to me, an idea of war lasting for so long is a bit of an overkill. But cool nevertheles

[@danielfang749]

maybe the notion of war is also different, when I started playing stellaris I would catch myself trying to figure out what a normal citizen would think about the war, the best comparison I could think of would be the hundred wars or some war periods in China, where the war didn't actually meant constant conflict, but some small and sparse conflicts between warring parties. It's not easy to imagine how it would really feel like though

[@marcinmarszaek3813]

@@danielfang749 I get your point, things get twisted in space. But for politicans and leaders a prospect of another war with neighbouring planet is probably something they would like to end eventauly. It is just funny that it took so long

[@Nukepositive]

If we talked about our own history like we did with Star Wars, we might say the Thirty Years War, Napoleon's Conquests, the First World War, and Second World War were all one long ethno-national-religious conflict between France and Germany for 300+ years. Or America and Russia have been in conflict a little over a hundred years now, starting with the first Red Scare and now it's bubbling up again in Ukraine. The Punic Wars also lasted 118 years, but 76 of them were at peace. Historians have argued that the Hundred Years War actually began in 1066 with William the Conqueror, making the English-French conflict 387 years long, mostly filled with peacetime. China's warring states period is usually listed as 254 years, although that one was truly brutal. The first imperial census of China after the wars listed the population as only 1/3 of its prewar population, despite holding more territory. Tens of thousands of years from now, wars this long will be the only ones interesting enough to talk about.

[@basedstreamingatcozy-dot-t7126]

@@Nukepositive That's actually a genius way to look at things, and makes the 'several hundred years long wars' in Star Wars make a lot of sense. In fact, what you're saying is even supported in established lore. The Old Sith Wars covered stuff like the War of Exar Kun, The Mandalorian War, Revan and Malik, the stuff that takes place in KOTOR 2 (but I haven't played that one yet), and the Great Galactic War in SWTOR. All those individual conflicts wrapped together under the label "The Old Sith wars" Makes me wonder about all the specific conflicts that happened in the original Alaskan War.

[@wildfire9280]

@@Nukepositive This is more comparable to the Franco-German enmity than the actual specific conflicts. Also I wouldn’t consider the Norman invasion as the start of an English-French rivalry given the Normans won completely and utterly and England has never again been ruled by a native dynasty (neither ‘British’ nor English) nor a native aristocracy.

[@backtothefutureman1]

Been waiting for this episode.

[@pedrolugo5634]

12:10 did you just imply that Warhammer 40k was in the Star Wars universe

[@jedichandler13]

I’m so happy these videos are picking back up!!!

[@Raleyg]

So happy to see this series continued!

[@Someoneelsestag]

Great installment

[@geetslys]

Thank you!

[@t95kush27]

So happy to see another episode man!!!!!

[@axe2373]

Amazing content and we need another series like this done on each phase of the clones wars.

[@victxbr]

So, Alsakan is like Abbadon the Dispoiler from 40k?

[@chrisallen7964]

Great vid, dude I missed out on a lot though catching up on all of what I missed out on.

[@sean668]

I wonder what the technology was like in this era. I'm imagining like Halo-level stuff. The Jedi were also bumming about somewhere as hermits, but since this is pre-lightsaber their fighting would have probably looked like Force Kung Fu

[@blackshogun272]

They had lightsabers during these ancient times except they had battery packs and cords

[@CollinMcLean]

@@blackshogun272 Although before that they used material weapons like metal swords I think...

[@blackshogun272]

@@CollinMcLean indeed. Blades infused with kyber crystals found on Tython. Just as durable and deadly as a lightsaber ⚔️

[@BryanEshbaugh]

This series is amazing

[@OllamhDrab]

(Oh, nice, ....I think I've missed this series, looking forward to going back for watching. :) )

[@ethpling165]

Very glad the Alsakan Conflicts are getting touched on. It seems so often they are just a one line mention.

[@Ikcatcher]

Old Star Wars lore is fucking wild, nothing but wacky shit just going on left and right

[@captain4ssassin490]

I'm sorry, what? What 50-meter long space dragons with atomic breath?

[@johnnygyro2295]

Here be Dragons. Pants to be darkened.

[@tf2664]

Interesting video

[@owenhardwick9029]

Peanut butter is good!

[@Redrum_Samm]

It's not

[@internetman-]

Hello Geet enjoyed the video

[@thanos9447]

8:23 I don’t remember the free plants alliance with admiral Yang Wen-li joining the galactic republic. Must’ve missed that part. Is the republic fighting Reinhard von Lohengramm and the empire now?

[@Smible]

How dare there only be four! Make more!

[@akumaking1]

Besides BBY/ABY, what other galactic calendars did the Star Wars universe use?

[@user-cd4bx6uq1y]

I sure do wonder what real life events was this inspired by

[@beagle3247]

I often notice people talking about star wars using the word battle and war to mean the same thing and as someone who heavily studies American war history and somewhat war history in general I feel obligated to correct them because a war has rules and outside spectators that aren't involved unless they join the war a battle does not it's much more barbaric, terroristic and uncontrolled. For instance the republic era conflicts are wars and the imperial era conflicts are battles to put the difference into context.

[@happymike420]

For the Republic!

[@jessicajujubean5004]

Somewhere in an alternate universe a force sensitive teenager is watching the latest fan video about Europe, a fictional continent with a rich history.

[@slayerminion183]

Love the legend of galactic heroes image

[@Karlos1234ify]

Clone 99, Fives, Cutup, & Heavy were true heroes.

[@geetslys]

Hevy.

[@toxicwaste159]

I'd be on Alsakan's side here if I had to make a choice from the POV of an outsider. They fight in order to not become just another subject of Coruscant, while Coruscant essentially fights to maintain this level of power and influence that would allow them to do so (which is also understandable, but imo somewhat less righteous)

[@jordanashen3811]

You can make a whole trilogy based on one video low key

[@xTK421x]

i like it.

[@tronicman1]

A link to these videos would be nice, like the Unification of the Republic. Couldn't find this anywhere.

[@Chill6063]

Corellians: OHHHH, I'M GOING TO EXPLOOOOORE, AHHHHH IM EXPLOOOOORING

[@Ganonsmork]

Many years of battle, for what?

[@cristianverdugogalaz8725]

control of resources, political power, goverment discontent, the usual stuff

[@Ganonsmork]

@@cristianverdugogalaz8725 ah. Yes.

[@CT--2716]

Umbara is an all too realistic description of my room

[@curlyfries8388]

can you do the rest of the civil wars please

[@chimkinnugget5221]

The only history I’m actually interested in lol

[@williamjohansson8105]

Where do you get all the information from?

[@amanzeihedioha]

I hope to hear your narrative on famous figures like Kyle Katarn and infamous jerks like Sal Solo one day.

[@forthencholordofadmirals2763]

Geetsley: "Sal Solo was a insufferable wanker and a down right jerk"

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Ugh, not evil Han Solo. How about Keyan Farlander, Hamo Blastwell, Maarek Stele, and Biggs Darklighter's stories?

[@vitorkennedy1862]

Thrackan Sal Solo, he is the Steve Bannon of Star Wars. He was a scum who supported the empire and used nationalism to mask his xenophobia and isolacionism.

[@sinwithagrin4243]

Where is the video for picking up a twi'lek Geetsly?!

[@franklindegaulle4351]

I would be an opportunistic supporter of the corellians asklani and coruscant

[@atheos5748]

Imagine my disappointment in finding there's no video about how to pick up twi'leks in a bar.

[@cyberpunkzombie9461]

[@memeshort7189]

8:17 Yes! Does Geetsly like Legends of the Galactic Heroes? If you like Star Wars check out LotGH Its literally a perfect anime about politics and war.

[@brandonwindsor6902]

When we see Carasuant as a planet what are the lines and the circles?

[@BaxterAndLunala]

By the time of the Clone Wars, the only world in the Exploitation Region I know that's considered still habitable is Umbara. Speaking of which, 10:11 you can see the planet, off to the right of Ambria.

[@Sephiroth144]

Still looking for that "Pickup a Twi'lek at a bar" video link...

[@nightraven2975]

Where do people keep finding these cool stories? There is so much great detail on pretty much everything you can think of in this universe.🤯

[@TobeWilsonNetwork]

Early Republic is such rich history because the authors of this lore tried to base it on (fictional) material and economic development. Centralizing and centrifugal tensions.

[@generaldurge111]

If you think about it, technically transformers could be in the Star Wars universe since they from a different galaxy, imagine a tri-fighter star scream

[@michaelandreipalon359]

10:50: Care to explain which holo-dramas? Are they Lost?

[@Ushakov_Mykyta]

Wait, hadn't the republic already known about Hutts by this point? I mean they manipulated them into attacking the Tion cluster some millennia prior, you'd think they would keep some records about them.

[@wafalme851]

Can somebody give me a link to the concept art on the right of the thumbnail

[@dewdrop2470]

14:57 Please make that video. Ik you won't but i'll still ask

[@kurugamageanuhaspererapere455]

Was it me or did someone see the pic of the astra militarum from Warhammer 40k in a star wars video

[@slicerneons3300]

History is cool, but even moreso with Spaceships & Lasers.

[@geetslys]

I like WWII.

[@slicerneons3300]

@@geetslys I'm a big fan as well.

[@CollinMcLean]

@@slicerneons3300 European Medieval age. Although I do have a soft spot for the Sengoku period of Japan and Roman history; I'm very much including the Byzantines because I don't care what others might think. They were Romans!

[@CollinMcLean]

@@slicerneons3300 And the Cold-War period to a degree, mainly because of all the hot nonsense the USA was involved in.

[@BaxterAndLunala]

I just looked up the First Alsakan Conflict, and the battle of Porus Vida occurred in 16,820 BBY, over a hundred years after the battle of Kes, not forty years after, according to the official fandom. Also 12:08, I guess Alsakan was colonized by the Imperium of Man. Edit: I was wrong. The battle of Kes lasted for nearly a hundred years. My question is, why did it last that long? You'd expect two sides without an official navy to just call it a draw after maybe two years, but apparently not.

[@Shadeem]

space dragons?!

[@cLaw27]

Space dragons!

[@tbone6932]

space dragon supremacy

[@kostakatsoulis2922]

Hey I have a video idea: what would have happened to echo if he hadn't gone with the bad batch? I know that you already did a video on that, but now we have a lot more knowledge of events that would have possibly effected him in order 66, so I think a follow-up video could be worthwhile. Just a suggestion, but I think it might be worth it

[@LauftFafa]

Good luck disney trying to imitate such things . Star wars legend is eternal. The disney starwars already forgotten

[@electric__1900]

I want to know why cut's kids are so old in the clone wars

[@renton0915]

Star Wars have sentient SPACE DRAGON?

[@BrotherChristmas78]

Extremely confusing to see warhamner 40k art while watching a star wars lore video while baked off my ass lol

[@freepalestine2434]

boop boop boop boop boop... beep beep beep beep beep... BLEELIEP

[@CloneScavengerVulpin8389]

And no sith were involved.

[@backtothefutureman1]

Am I the only one who thinks of Alaska when I hear the planet Alsakan?

[@antfruit]

I need to know where all this information comes from.

[@geetslys]

A bunch of obscure Legends sourcebooks, most notably the Essential Guide to Warfare

[@antfruit]

@@geetslys thanks for clarifying, I thought you were making all this up for some reason.

[@estebson]

Corellia is literally the Switzerland of the SW galaxy

[@shanenolan8252]

Pick up ? You mean buy ( kidding)

[@WALTHERS14]

Damn, uploaded less than 10 minutes ago and there's already a dislike.

[@useddentalfloss2484]

Jolee had it right about wars... Just sayin.

[@Roman-oh7xc]

Would love for Star Wars to make movies about this time in the lore and not just stick to the main story line

[@goldeagle6431]

The galaxy was never the same after the Senate arrived.

[@noscoper1993]

Atleast link the first and second video if you already recommend to watch them...

[@thomasmulholland8835]

Unban soup

[@crashman4759]

why were there so many Sith factions but only ome Jedi order?

[@geetslys]

Sith ideology is based around competition and seeking personal power above all, something that effectively encourages division and infighting (which is why Darth Bane started the Rule of Two). The Sith also got all but wiped out a bunch of times and reorganized because of it. The Jedi, meanwhile, draw power from unity and their ideology is collaborative, so infighting is rare. There were a few Jedi sects or Light Side cults that sprang up over the millennia, but they were small and insignificant.

[@crashman4759]

@@geetslys I have one more question, 2 rather. And you might have made a video not sure. But how can 2 there be, no more, no less? Because if one dies, then there would be one, unless there was another apprentice in which case there would be 3. The Darth Maul and Count Dooku both being Sidious' apprentices always bugged me. And how did Yoda know if the council (Ki-adi Mundi) thinks the Sith were extinct? So many questions. Thanks tho I love your videos