The Return of Gran Turismo 7's Most Controversial Problem

[@AndresGrimace]

Every track should have a one hour 1M prize like Spa. People would play them and learn the tracks better.

[@GriffinBarclay]

But the thing is, I don't like spa

[@AndresGrimace]

@GriffinBarclay 🤔 "every track"

[@GriffinBarclay]

I know, but I just don't like racing at Spa or suzuka Circuit, so I just won't race at either of those tracks

[@AndresGrimace]

@GriffinBarclay I mean every track on GT7 should have a 1 hour, 1M race.

[@GriffinBarclay]

I know

[@tdog54]

Another major problem is the ridiculously insulting roulette ‘prizes’.

[@bobbyosborne2375]

Been playing since launch...still no Ferrari invite. 90% of the time the roulette gives me 5g or 10g.

[@the.gods.of.obliviousity]

@@bobbyosborne2375 I honestly don't see the point of the invite. Unless I missed something. Every invite I've received , the car was in the showroom before I got the invite. Seems like a very pointless "prize". Aside from the roulette system, which is utterly ridiculous to begin with.

[@AnthroGearhead]

True, i dont get why the Carrera GT requires an invite compare the 918 , the Carrera GT is an old car, should have been in the used car lots instead

[@fowrunnah]

I so hate them!

[@jonathanrichards4584]

Does anybody want parts/engines on the roulette? It’s utter garbage!

[@ninjay007]

The worst feature they added in this game is the Hagerty prices.

[@GriffinBarclay]

No kidding I don't want to pay 20 mil for a McLaren f1

[@jesperpsv98]

​@GriffinBarclay Exactly this. I dont care it costs 20 mil in real life, the whole point of playing a video game is driving cars I will never drive irl.

[@GriffinBarclay]

@@jesperpsv98 I know!!

[@FH4Player6397]

@@jesperpsv98 I don't have the Standard McLaren F1. I did grind for the 1954 300 SL as it's useful for the !H at Alscase in the Missions section (Human Comedy),

[@ShanesAutos]

@GriffinBarclayand there are three types of McLaren F1 which amount to 56,000,000 altogether…fuck that. I had the F1 in GT Sport when it cost just 1,000,000.

[@mikeypv6]

There should be an award for your mileage each day... the more you drive, the more the reward not for 26miles only like the current daily reward

[@Xopop]

of course ! but PD are bstrds

[@GriffinBarclay]

@@mikeypv6 I like that idea

[@robertgodlewski8553]

Agreed 💯👍

[@GoatedAtNFS]

the cap should be 5 days

[@GriffinBarclay]

@@GoatedAtNFS of straight driving?

[@BadDriverrr]

That we’re still talking about “grinding” years into GT7’s lifespan shows how much of a problem the economy is and how much it’s ruining the gameplay experience. “Grinding for credits” is the worst. I’ve seen much more enjoyable gameplay from 580PP “historical” races than all those hours of 600, 700, and 800pp grinding. Even if it’s for a fraction of the credit award

[@spacekiller1195]

Hey dumb fuck, go play forza where they give you everything at the start, get bored in 6 minutes, and come back and shut the fuck up. The grind is perfect if you don’t want to grind then switch games stupid fuck. It’s not a problem that the game has its very intentional bud. You’re the same person who plays GTA with a modded account. There’s no fun in that unless you’re a loser that could never get there legit anyway so you need to have the account to feel better

[@GDI-disc-accepted]

Not many ppl are going to sit for an hour going round the same track unfortunately

[@christopherryan7780]

I agree. I like using the old cars. I also set up my own “legendary/iconic” rally event where I use the stratos and have to run down a series of road cars and group b in custom liverys. It’s 14 laps and only nets me maybe 200k but it’s so much fun and is a hoot on a replay to watch a stratos against an escudo/ tomi mak lancer, possum bourne suby. You have to make your own fun in this game now.

[@seansroadcyclingstrength6085]

I managed to escape the grind with that abath glitch we had for a bit.

[@fowrunnah]

I totally agree. What is going on here people! Racing for credits!! Stop it!

[@Framidan]

What annoys me the most about GT7 is the star roulette ticket, 6 stars are garbage, all those car parts are completely useless (at least if you could sell it), 4 and 5 stars are most of the time better than 6 stars.

[@JohnChristianAAnte]

Its only the 6 star parts ticket that suck. The regular 6 star ticket, 6 star cars ticket and for others the 6 star engine ticket is not something you should ignore

[@marcelluscunningham8272]

Honestly, why can't we sell parts and engines when they have a price tag on them. It makes 0 sense

[@AndreiSZS]

6 stars tickets are the best tickets, may only be behind 6 stars cars. Learn how to read...

[@mr198221]

I actually got a decent 6 ☆ reward recently. I had to post a vid because I could not believe it!

[@jr260cc5]

Those tickets suck, and are annoying.

[@sheldoncooper8199]

I WANT A Freakin 2 hours Nürburgring Endurance Event that Never goes away and pays 2 Million clean Race Bonus and Let it be a 799 PP Event. would be great.

[@GriffinBarclay]

3 mil clean race bonus

[@sheldoncooper8199]

@GriffinBarclay Yeah i Originally wanted to Write that but then i thought Nah they would never do that in 2025. Would be great People would Love it. I Loved the 4 hours of Nürburgring in GT 5 drove it with the Audi TT Touring Car and the Chaparal 2 D and the Mercedes CLK Touring. 3 Cars that i absolutely miss in GT 7.

[@GriffinBarclay]

4 hours is a little long for me, and by the way, do you remember the payout of that race?

[@sheldoncooper8199]

@GriffinBarclay I remember it Not being that much i think 1,5 Million ? Even that one 8 hours Race only had a Reward of 4 Milion and the V12 Lister Storm but that was Really hard only did that once. I remember getting the Audi R8 Race Car as a Reward in B-Spec Mode for 4 Hours of Nürburgring.

[@GriffinBarclay]

@@sheldoncooper8199 I would expect at least 1 million credits an hour you spend racing on that event

[@The_BenboBaggins]

The ONLY reason I did the Bathurst race was for the 1 million credit completion ticket.

[@TheFordMan888]

Effectively making it a 1.2 Million event... Which is a great reward for 60 minutes!

[@vixter_]

​​​​@@TheFordMan888 it's really not, on Sardegna you can get 1.4m plus change for under an hour of racing. The only reason why I did this challenge was because of my OCD not being able to handle missing s checkmark on the weekly challenges 😂😂

[@xTheEcO]

@@vixter_ The 700pp Le Mans 30mins race is iirc around 800k, so 1.6mil per hour

[@Leotheleprachaun]

​@@xTheEcO Lake Louise GRB clean race bonus is 198k/~5minutes.

[@jeffrevell6599]

@@TheFordMan888 But you only do it once! That's the point. I loved it the first time but I won't do it again. I love the track so I created my own race and got the nearly 500K credits for the same race.

[@sillymonkE73]

I don’t mind grinding, as practice makes better. But I think I can name every single marshall’s name in Sardegna . Add new events!

[@GriffinBarclay]

@sillymonkE73 I usually do my money grinds at the WTC 700 Le Mans race, paying out at 825000 credits almost every time.

[@Boricua_CJ]

@GriffinBarclaysame, its the only race I see worth playing for the money you get. Especially with the car I use, I’m usually a lap ahead every race so its easy money

[@askmyAK]

They add new events every week they are called time trials, do them.

[@sillymonkE73]

@@askmyAK I do them. I was referring to an actual race.

[@KiWii69]

What car do you use? I use the Red Bull x2014 ​jr. @@Boricua_CJ

[@sean6077]

MINIMUM for a 1 hour race should be 750,000Cr. The Le Mans 30-minute race pays 550,000Cr. And a 1 hour race paying just over 25% of that is just crazy. Like you said...no replayability. I had quite a bit of fun doing the race. But that small payout means it was 1-and-done for me.

[@andrewhardgrove5590]

My guess is they justify it as giving you a reward of $500,000 for completing all events since its the last race but still bull shit!

[@Utopia-ich-suche-dich]

@@andrewhardgrove5590 No, 1 Million this time not 500k.

[@nick_g]

I hope the community boycotts GT8 until they fix the economy. Because you know they’ll increase the price cap to like $100 million in legends and they’ll keep the payouts the same. Rule of thumb is that any car should be attainable without having to grind for 10+ hours.

[@joejoe2658]

yeah, why play the best vr racer on earth when u can make a point!!?

[@matteon4192]

​@@joejoe2658 being a decent vr racer doesn't give them a right to make the game miserable to grind or make any decent progress in It's pretty obvious they want you to spend real money to progress hence why they do so much well until it comes to giving us ways to make money

[@VariantAEC]

​@@matteon4192 What was the excuse for the broken economy in GT on PS1 in 1998 or GT4 on PS2 in 2004, or really all GT games?

[@vvoof2601]

@@matteon4192 Yeah I don't really care sorry, I'm gettin GT8 day one.

[@N1ckZ]

LOLOLOL you are probably coming from Forza which gives you every single car in 2 hours and you've never played any of the previous numbered GT games.

[@yourtubisfilled7164]

Great point. I CAN'T fathom why they don't add more diversity in racing options for the top level rewarding races. It seems so random and unrewarding. If you hate wall riding Sardinia is pretty much the only choice you have. Nice track though but it gets old very fast. We need more variety to spend or credit grinding hours on. Such a shame of all the great tracks in the game. Every track should have a top level earnings option.

[@Shashino]

Man, I just miss 9 legendary cars and they all cost 20M each which means I need 180M just for them. It's crazy

[@The.world.has.gone.crazy...]

I am so happy i got all cars in the game allready.

[@supercar2131]

Just finished all the Hagerty cars yesterday. Now I have to clean out the auto show for about 100 mil.

[@Shashino]

@@supercar2131 Let's go man

[@The.world.has.gone.crazy...]

@@supercar2131 you will get there! It's even become a tiny bit easier with the weekly challenges. I am rooting for you!

[@sharptojo6420]

This game has SO much potential, but sadly a studio that couldn’t care less about making changes or updates that players actually want.

[@darkstar_448]

I envisage the disparity between the custom race and event payouts being fixed in the next patch by removing payouts from custom races...

[@black82f100]

The new physics suck the payments suck they just keep shooting themselves in the foot I turned it on collected my free reward looked at the weekly races and turned the game off

[@usernametakenGT7]

Agreed 👍

[@Paul_Ehlers]

I have done this race 5 or 6 times already, with different GR3 cars and strats. Loving it.

[@ArumesYT]

Yeah it's a great race. Seems like some people care more about credits than racing. Fine, don't play racing games then.

[@Paul_Ehlers]

@ArumesYT exactly.. I don't care about the credits. Just enjoying a well balanced race. 👌

[@h1gh_end134]

@@ArumesYTI mean if I race for a whole hour I expect a good reward, you might not need credits but other people do so speak for yourself

[@ianpatrick4065]

I've done the same even tried a severely detuned red bull 😅. I'm gonna try all my gr3 cars hopefully before the even leaves

[@robertgodlewski8553]

​@@ArumesYTI may be in the minority. But credits are necessary in this game. I want to be able to buy different cars to try them out. I want to be able to buy legendary cars for 20 mil. I want to replace engines and customize cars. All that takes credits!

[@hectorzambrano4092]

This is the sad part: GT7's car modelling is by far the best, and I really mean THE very best to date. Not even NFS Unbound can top it off. Obviously we all know Forza's budget gimmicks. The only reason why GT7 still makes sense to me is the fact that it's detailed as HELL, therefore distracting me from the fact that the game itself is also flawed in some way.

[@VariantAEC]

Most of the other racing games have the same game economy flaw. The progress in NFS was less about money, and often, it was most upsetting to not be able to keep using a car you built up for more than a 3rd of the campaign, but it was never a huge deal breaker for the franchise and it wasn't a progress blocker. GT7, like some other GT games, also has no real progress blockers either. The only bummer is that it takes forever to fill your garage with every car in the game. This is the first time the franchise's history that the in-game economy, race event variety, and difficulty curve allowed me to do that.

[@retromaniaco_br7422]

Despite the economic flaw, GT7 still has enjoyable qualities. I really enjoy the dynamic weather, the car collection, the liveries sharing and editor...

[@Poptartsicles]

95% of the races in the entire game aren't worth doing more than once, that's the real sad part. I don't expect every single race to be equally optimal for grinding credits, but I also don't expect one race to give me 90% fewer credits for the same amount of effort as another race, especially if they're in the same class. Make it make sense!

[@Knibal999]

YES. EXACTLY THAT. It's quite insane.

[@Hoggy27]

100%. Great points as always. Sometimes the Polyphony forgets it’s a game and there should be a balanced element of fun or reward for playing. Happy New Year to you and the GT7 community. :)

[@klockenberg2299]

for fun many also think more realistic driving physics are not fun too, thus arcades (or something like GRID) are actual fun video games to sims

[@rookietoprobuildz]

7:11 Perfect visual to show how off the payout is, that's insane. I'm curious if the people the work on the game, play the game ..

[@d3vil5dad]

Polyphony need to replay GT5 and take the entire game and update the cars, tracks and music then release it because then it’ll be prime GT again

[@sheldoncooper8199]

@d3vil5dad That Will of course Never happen. GT 7 is WAAY better Today then i was Like September 2022. You couldnt even Sell Cars back then.

[@EwetoobSucks]

Exactly ! GT5 Is Awesome !

[@henlienr22]

@@sheldoncooper8199even though thats true gt7 should never have been that badly thought through.... till this day the singleplayer layout is the messiest uve ever seen from sny racing game... also we were promised 24h races 2 years ago and still nothing, these are things that should have been from the beginning

[@manostororosso2364]

*GT4

[@manostororosso2364]

Gt5 was pretty bad

[@racelegend799]

I was definitely disappointed in the payout. I completely agree, if it would have been a good payout, I would have definitely looked forward to exploring doing this event with multiple cars ! It's so sad how polyphony does payouts. 😕

[@strychen]

The Spa 1 hr is easy to get the CRB also.... i ran super clean with a couple wall taps on Mt Pan and lost the CRB.

[@Celatra]

it is easy if you have the right setup but 1 hour for 1 million credits just feels like a rob. like. im pretty sure actual races pay out more.

[@vvoof2601]

@@Celatra It's easy if you don't have the right setup lol. I won it with stock Gr.3 cars (yeah it's on easy but only for grinding).

[@OldschoolRacer73]

As with all racinggames there are usually 2 camps the grinders and the fungamers. I am a fungamer and I love how this GT opens up with the menu races. When you actually play the game you get lots of cars for free. Do I make the money to get the most expensive cars in the game? Probably not but I will see myself playing this game for years to come with a big smile on my face. I don't grind I race.👍🏻

[@jr260cc5]

I was a grinder in the beginning. As I did with Sport, I had goals for the cars that I wanted, grinding till I completed the list. Stopped grinding. I completed my list before the weekly challenge was put into the game, so now I just do the weekly challenge for the fun of it. I do wish that they would dump the tickets and go back to giving cars

[@SidusBrist]

Same, I have almost all the cars I wanted so I only play for fun, but it would be a lot better for people who actually like grinding credits if they did change something 🥲

[@rainsilent]

"I love how this GT opens up with the menu races." Granted I have played GT3 and 4 a lot but the older games were way, way better than the menus. The menus genuinely felt like an insult to me. Also the older GT games threw cars at you faster than this game does and paid you more relative. It still took quite a while to build up your collection because of the sheer number of cars but it never felt like you ever had to properly grind. This GT does because it is so crap. You don't think it is because either you don't know or don't care, maybe even both.

[@Celatra]

as a fan of gt4 and even gt6....gt7 is an insult to previous gt games.

[@vvoof2601]

@@Celatra Get a wheel and VR, the campaign leaves some to be desired but the driving is the best of any GT game by a mile (been playing since GT1, wheel since GT4).

[@JonnyMiddleton21]

This and the recent Special Events like the Group C Championship races and the DTM ones should have all been put into the game permanently if you ask me. Heck, the Group C Championship and the DTM events should have been their own menu books.

[@derkommentator9999]

no way i play 1 hour for 140k

[@r.steele2749]

Totally agree, Why would you when you can get over 1.6 for two 30 minute sessions at La Sarthe.

[@knochenkotzer456]

​@@r.steele2749 Cause for the Variety.

[@bigsarge8795]

Technically, it's 1.1 million with the credit ticket you get from the weekly races, but unfortunately, you only get the ticket once.

[@derkommentator9999]

@bigsarge8795 so you get 140k in 1hour

[@solarwarden163]

Agreed, as an average player who struggles to get gold on the online time laps, the course experience time trials etc, it's such a grind trying to earn credits. Currently trying to save 20m to get the 94 Mclaren F1, and it's basically grinding the crap out of the 30 minute 700PP race at Le Mans in the 86 Rally car, the weekly challenges and trying my ass off to grind silver trophies with the online lap trials but it's taking forever and it gets old. There's got to be more creative and different ways to earn credis.

[@stoopidloopid]

Have you tried Sardegna road track with the clan race glitch? Takes about 20/25 mins for 727,500cr. Never not had the clean race bonus and you can use different strategies/cars to mix it up a bit. 787b, lm55 vgt, pikes peak Escudo can all result with a win easily. This is my usual last race to bump up my credits after a blast.

[@marctunc4880]

Best of luck for gettin the credits but maybe consider something else for 20 mil and all the effort. The F1 aint worth it imho.

[@solarwarden163]

@marctunc4880 I'm only getting it to complete my last collection in the menu book smh. Will probably sell it afterwards

[@solarwarden163]

@stoopidloopid I'll give that a try. I've been mostly doing Le Man's 700pp for the $825k with the clean race bonus.

[@cdot2four]

Haha I'm doing exactly the same thing. Probably by march I'll have 20 mil saved up. I refuse to grind anymore.

[@disruptor6550]

They just need to release an event where you can earn GOOD money for EVERY track in the game (obviously adjusting them to a roughly similar credits per hour). It would probably make people play this game a lot more and bring some people back. I'm honestly sick of farming the same 3-4 events for months and months, and I'm sure many feel the same. 95% of events are just worthless sadly, which is very unfortunate since there's so many beautiful tracks and events. But they're not worth grinding because the payout is nonexistent.

[@trinidad111]

It’s very simple why PD does what it does. Most, if not all updates are micro transaction driven if you think about it. None more obvious than the last one with the 20 million dollar merc. Then they added all the high priced cars in legendary dealership. Even adding the snow track, that maybe 3% of players wanted, forced you to spend credits for tires (I know it was only 5k a tire but still adds up over an entire collection). All the engine swaps, especially the recent release of 3 new cars to put the 1.6 mil Chiron engine in. They have metrics and know what people are doing in game as well as micro transactions. Probably data showing how much in micro transactions are spent after an update release. They’re like the government, we know they’re not stupid, they just act like it by not correcting or changing things that need to be based on user feedback. That’s why they don’t have high paying events for more than three tracks, to force enough lazy people to spend more money. It must be working

[@jr260cc5]

I have never bought any credits. Every car, engine swap, and parts I have obtained are from credits earned from grinding.

[@Knibal999]

@@jr260cc5 we have honor.

[@trinidad111]

@@jr260cc5that’s great, but thats you. There are plenty of players that will buy credits.

[@jr260cc5]

@trinidad111 and that's the problem, as long as players keep buying credits the developers will continue to ignore players that wish to have some better and more productive content.

[@Celatra]

the issue just is....gt5 and gt6 had microtranscations too. but they didnt hinder the payouts. the karting race at autumn ring paid out 115k for 5 laps in gt6 (if you had 200% login bonus), but even without it it still paid out 50+k. the redbull x2014 challenges paid out 250k (or smth like that) per 5 laps with 200% login bonus online races could payout decenty, not well but better than in gt7. in gt6, i actuallly felt like getting the redbul x2011 was worth it. even though it cost 8 million credits. in gt7, getting those 8-10mil credits cars just doesn't feel worth it. i either have to be a god at driving (which i am not) or i have to grind the same tracks like hell for almost no money.

[@therefixframeuproduction1093]

Great video as usual. I totally agree with you and this highlights the "pay out system" is completely upside down.

[@Viperacrx600]

I definitely just resign myself to never buying a car that costs more than $6M. It’s just too much of a grind to get anything else

[@joung_god]

They should ad the feature to sell your gathered parts. Sell the engines and studs like that

[@True_Outlaw]

What a missed opportunity for such a good race.

[@madresidence264]

The reason why this race only gives 100,000 credits is because the weekly challenge gives a 1,000,000 credit ticket. Also, for some reason I’m not receiving my credit tickets

[@Ru4real01]

One thing to note about the weekly race is that the completion reward for doing all 5 events is one million so they did put a little thought into it

[@mohibsiddiqui8273]

i just completed the 1hr endurance event today with the Mercedes CLK-LM on racing medium tires. If you change the fuel slider to 6 you can complete the first thirty minutes without pitting. ended up completing 30 laps total.

[@DarnellJackson-o4z]

One of the things that annoy me the most is getting penalties coming out of the pit. It's unfair you get a 3.000 penalty cutting off a pit line that is controlled by auto drive. And sometimes it becomes repetitious when you do pit and keep getting penalties to where you eventually quit. Lastly. I do agree there should be more credits on long grinds like Spa. Mt. Panorama became quite boring after 10 to 15 laps. Pay up. Make it more enjoyable. Good work sir!

[@krazycharlie]

GT7 biggest problem has never really gone away: its stupid always online connection for everything. Does anyone remember the outtage it suffered not too long after it was released? I haven't forgotten. Who's to say it won't happen again? That said, I also agree that the game has zero replayability with those pathetic payouts. These two combined factors are what stop me from buying a game that Sony and Polypony Digital should have made the jewel of the crown but instead made it a $70 P2W uninteresting game for me.

[@SidusBrist]

I agree they should rebalance prizes on some events... Honestly I found Mount Panorama endurance race a lot harder than the one at Spa because roads are way more narrow and it's a lot harder to overtake. Also they really need to add some endurance racing with prototypes, having tracks like Le Mans and Daytona with no endurance races makes no sense, luckily I'm in a point in the game where I don't care about prizes anymore so most of my races are custom races, including a 24 Hours of Le Mans with all the prototypes and some GT3s 😅

[@KandyRedCoi]

we need more: -$ grinding tracks -classic/older car races -rework of the roulette ticket system -better overall $ prizes for all events

[@AwesomeFinish]

I often wonder if anyone within PD actually plays this game, like REALLY plays through it like we do. In my honest opinion there should be a good paying grinding event on every single track. There's no reason at all they can't do this. There should just be some kind of formula time + difficulty = payout. A formula used across the board.

[@tezzabhoy1888]

There cant be a difficulty payout thats practical. Hard difficulty for pd is the AI drivers start 2 weeks ahead. Nobody wants this nonsense. Development is basically over for this game other than adding cars. Gt8 will have sofy Ai, pd could add what you want then. But for gt7 its over.

[@AwesomeFinish]

@@tezzabhoy1888 Whether or not the difficulty is hard enough for YOU or anyone else is irrelevant. They already have events with good payouts. Whatever the formula is for those is what needs to be used across the board.

[@ColinLee-ms8ni]

The problem these days is people complaining about games appreciate what we have

[@rainsilent]

When it is watered down to this degree?

[@LordRuxpin]

My favorite grind has been “24 heures du Man” track PP700, its a guaranteed 825k every 30 mins for me. I keep it fresh by building new cars each race. I’m up to 14 different builds.

[@nickcorea8162]

I am on the same page with you of course. Payouts should be based on time and difficulty. That being said, this WTC800 event at Mount Panorama is pretty easy, compared to SPA (with no weather, the player can just grab their 787B at Fuel Map 6 and lap the grid 2-3 times. It would be great for PD to do a complete pay-out make-over. For example the "Chili races" should pay out the most... and they don't.

[@thattrillYT]

AC Evo will be here soon.. don’t worry

[@samuelzhang5741]

The Daytona track experience was also nerfed, as the gold time was changed from 47 to 45:5 making it a living hell. I spent like 1 hours grinding this track. I just hate how hard it is to make money faster.

[@guujigaming]

I just did the 60min race and was very shocked by the awful rewards. When I seek to earn credits, I always go for the WTC800 Spa race because if you drive it cleanly you’ll get about 1.5m credits in an hour. A special event like this should reward more credits, and at least have a similar amount of rewards as the Spa circuit one. I am not driving it again for a mere 140k credits, it’s just not gonna happen. And another issue I have is that I keep getting parts I will never use, but I am unable to sell them. And I can’t remove certain cars from the garage because it was given for free (the Toyota ambulance) and thus have no value in used cars dealership.

[@OnionBreath]

Thanks for creating content on GT7 mate! I didn't play it for a while, but I think I will give it a go this Sunday after seeing this video.

[@sophdog1678]

It's the sort of weekly event that makes me realise I won't be completing all five events! Same as if there's a rallycross event - I know I'll just do three events, not five.

[@3Xmedic]

One of the big problems with the weekly events especially the DTM races are they don't put power caps or fuel/tire wear. Nothing stopping anyone from just pulling out a 1400hp nismo R32 and lapping everyone.

[@josephjoestar995]

Great video completely agree. How are people currently grinding credits?

[@markpearce8191]

Wow that’s crazy with your comparison of payout when you made the custom race at the same track!

[@krupkeben]

Payouts SUCK.. DONKEY, THE daily workout roulette tickets never pay out any higher then the lowest option on the wheel.. always wondered about them keeping track of Micro transactions, I don't see a problem stopping my game play, if all they are worried is my money, they won't get any, I HATE PLAY TO WIN GAMES

[@Knight-mm7lg]

It should roulette choose by player

[@SpatialDragon]

Spa 1 hr and LeMans 30 minute races also have possible weather. Difficulty is much higher there. Plus if you do this race last and only once you do get a 1,000,000 cr. bonus card.

[@geraldolson9366]

I found last weeks special event with the group C cars much more replay able than this one. I tried to use each group C car in it while it was available. This one I ran twice so I could say I got the clean race bonus.

[@hemsworth38]

Would've liked it to be dark a little longer and some rain, did anyone get rain?

[@jsdoogie]

No rain for me - only ran the race once.

[@capiveintiun]

And in the same track, you have a RACE that for 7 laps pays you more, it's a gr.4 category, but that makes more sense in my opinion.

[@hellrthedoomd]

They need to bring back the login bonus you’d get in I think GT5 getting up to like 200% bonus on $ would really bring back players back tbh

[@sophdog1678]

It's also a disincentive to clean driving. You telling me you miss every wall at Bathurst, let alone pass EVERY car cleanly? I sure can't, not for an hour. And I won't bother trying, for just an extra 70k.

[@TheHoodGuru]

I really loved that race. I was thinking I would pause 30 minutes in but did the whole race. I was surprised at the 1 million.

[@kilwrath]

I agree that 140k credits for winning a 1hr event is a bit sad, but it’s a massive overstatement to say it’s GT7’s most controversial problem. Bad drivers in multiplayer is by far the problem that drives most people away from the game. Polyphony needs to fix how dirty drivers are managed and penalized in multiplayer or drivers like me will get bored with single player and frustrated with grinding through B and C DR levels. I will agree that it’s the easiest problem for them to address though. Just stop being so cheap on the rewards, it would take them almost no effort to eliminate this complaint.

[@Schnapple_]

I feel like Polyphony should add the special events permanently along side an update around a month or two after they were on the weekly challenges

[@in4mus85]

The new endurance race at Mt Panorama is so fun and the CPU has good pace. It’s a real shame that the payout is so low

[@benupde1979]

I did that special event today. Didn’t pay attention to the payout, assuming it would be better than the 550k for 30 minutes at Leman. Won the race (barely) and discovered the ‘prize’ of 140k 🤦🏻‍♂️ Definitely a 1 time race. It was fun, and quite challenging, but not enough of a reward to do it again.

[@johng94x]

The main problem for me when it comes to GT7 is that it doesn't know what game it is. Is it a racing game? Is it a sim? Is it a car collection game? Is it a driving game? Or is all all of the above in one? I feel like they're trying to hard to be many things at once and honestly I'd rather they focused on being a racing/SIM game in the future.

[@klockenberg2299]

is making games like iRacing the only right way to make racing games? can't games be about something else like car encyclopedia?

[@Jeffreygt97]

That 150k payout is just a slap in the face it should be 1M also it's pretty crazy that you get more credits if you make your own race.

[@Jack-hi4lo]

I’d argue it’s hard to judge this one as you get a credit ticket as a reward. I can imagine it would be higher if it wasn’t a weekly event.

[@mhillenaar]

I am still waiting for a trueforce fix for my logitech pro wheel....

[@codymorrow5003]

I completely understand the frustration here, I would like to see more endurance events also, however a lot of people are missing the fact that this isn't a permanent race, and that we're getting a 1mil ticket for completing the 5 races. Just my .02¢

[@RoccocoVs]

All these special events without Sophy just makes me use Tomahawk X to get the event out of the way. Not sure why restrictions are never in place for these, but hard AI is easy after you’ve become used to Sophy and it feels like a chore to play.

[@jcskyr33]

They needed to add weather to that event any time they race at that track rain comes main reason every loves Bathurst

[@Mattsretiring]

To purchase the entire line up of the Legend dealer from a couple weeks back would take MORE THAN 600 HOURS and CRB on that stupid Bathurst race

[@paulcaola6004]

I’ve been struggling with this myself. I enjoy variety. Playing the F/R 550, European 600, Japanese 550. Even those series usually have only the last 2 races paying out. There is no payout scale for skill level. Why is payout based on PP level and not time invested? Why can’t we have more 5 lap, 10 lap races across all pp levels? Wouldn’t it still be enjoyable to have a 10 lap, 650 PP races (no fuel /tire wear so road /street cars can run) that pays out $200-250K ? It would take longer than the current SAR grind , SLIGHTLY less strategy but still payout something worth the time. Custom races are a waste for earning $$. If you’re not playing PD’s events; you’re almost loosing money. The frustrating part….. This is very fixable !!! If a future update was focused on the economy, race variety and payouts; it would be one of the easiest updates to program/code. Great video….thanks for bringing this topic to the front again 👍👍

[@standerboyz]

I wish there would be an edurance event on the nordschleife with a decent payout that's whats missing in gt7.

[@Alliwantedwasapepsi]

It never had crash damage and the collisions simulate bumper cars.

[@michiniemand7969]

well, i would pref. when Poly would make a Payment Rule for each Event Class. Like all 800WTC are set to make 60min/1mil. then you have Variation in the Tracks. also would like, to have more Random Rain or Day/Night Circle in those Races. Just like Spa

[@luka7337]

I agree with everything you said. However I find it very utopistic. The goal od PD is not to offer us replayability or give us a complete game like 4 was, the goal is to incentivise microtransactions. An hour of my time is worth 1.5m at Spa endurance and there are cars that cost 20 million.

[@bossboyritchno1685]

You need to do a video on the AI too… they bang on about how great sophy is but I can’t do a single race without the car’s deliberately cutting me off, banging into me every time I pass or just totally swiping me clean off the track! It’s got so annoying Im starting to just turn the damn thing off mid race 🤨

[@Ward413]

I adore the Lexus SC430 for 800pp races like this 1hr Bathurst event.

[@187Gameplan]

Not worth the credits for the time

[@lincolnklayvr]

Polyphony Digital put so much effort into perfecting microtransactions they forgot how to make a good racing game

[@philipg7982]

It pays a $1,000,000 ticket as part of the weekly completion. Total payout for me was $1,140,000. That for 1 hour is perfect.

[@grimm6jack]

If you don't understand that you have to do 4 other events that take about 40 minutes to do total (with menu cruising taken into account) then that million is not part of that race. It's bad. If you do the 60 minute race first, you will gain only 140 k and there's no replayability.

[@LeonardoNicolasNiqqo258]

And Im still here, wishing they allow you to change car during custom race preparations😭

[@martymart3681]

Well, if we are here, I guess it is all about the joy of doin'g it is't it. Then I own the game 2 week ago, and today i've buy the psvr2 to make the joy of competing a bit more joyfull😃

[@raebanks2179]

Anyone else’s annoyed that cars are locked behind invitations?

[@clarencesedell2232]

the 1st place prize ticket was - 1 million , not bad .

[@rjo78]

Thank god i made use of the tomahawk when that was around,rinsed that sucker dry for as much as i could get out of it 😅

[@Xsonic378X]

Ngl I hope GT7 has a shorter “life” than other GTs because they dropped the ball so hard, admitted they did, said they would fix the issues, then they didn’t orput a temporary band-aid on it.

[@Reame33]

As Forza player i will say this...the game needs to make more money than just 70€-full price or 40€-sale price, because of "good quality" of updates comming to the game. I'm not defending microtransaction, i hate them, but they are optional in this case and you can get all cars in the game if you will grind money. In Forza you have payed DLC with real money, so if you want to drive certain cars, you must pay more than just price for the game. Even updates are somewhat shitty and game is not looking good as GT7.

[@Frankenslide]

Am i the only one who doesnt care about grinding credits? GT7 offers so many ways to earn credits, online time trials, circuit experience, the normal grinds, etc... Ive raced this Bathhurst race like 9 times already, and i walk away having just as much fun each time. keep a bone stock Gr.3 car dont add any parts and just go for it. its actually a super challenging race. i cant fathom why people detune Gr.2/1 cars for these 800PP events theyre designed for Gr.3 cars. I walk away from these gaining tons of track knowledge and experience and that is enough reward for me.

[@DaniMacYo]

This race should be permanent and be like Spa we need wet weather at Bathurst and Spa payout. I’d grind on Mount Panorama. GT7 needs some new grind races. In fact I don’t even grind anymore it’s the same races over and over so we need some fresh ones to enjoy…. Until we got bored of them 🤣

[@rimamura21]

For me, I have the feeling that these normal events that pay much more were somehow Nerfed, you can feel the difference!. And this event that pays 1K credits is a joke for me, the game already doesn't pay well and you still have to waste hours and hours to buy absurdly expensive cars, it takes away the total immersion because these expensive cars aren't even good enough for that!. I have the clear feeling that the events were totally Nerfed and nobody noticed and also Polyphony doesn't even say anything!.

[@minners71]

I stopped griding for money months ago and I feel better for it. I also now have just over 20 million credits and it really didn't seem to take that long.

[@fanaatikk0]

It is fundamentally a RACING game/sim. If youre not enjoying racing no matter the credit prize youre playing the wrong game.

[@ALXXR63AMG]

Polyphony has Dome it Great but forgot yet another 0 at the End of each payout-instead of 140000 it is 1.400000 when Done Right

[@jakechappell9241]

Gt7 is a great game suffering under shit management

[@13opacus]

Credits are handy but not the be all of the game, more is always better but the race is the highlight.

[@mikelarocque4221]

Bop is shit. Whatever happened to the original slogan " power is king ? "

[@Crippledsasquash]

I wouldnt call a 1hr race an endurance thats a sprint race in any series all over the world. I love that there was there finally a longer race tho wish it was a daily race. We have had proper endurance races in the past even a full 24h one ill admit that was a pain in the ass to do but 4h or 8h is an endurance.