The Ridgeway Mystery: You NEVER knew!

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Paul Whitewick

Paul Whitewick

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@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 18 сағат бұрын
Go find the route and details here: greatchalkway.org.uk/ and: icknieldwaypath.co.uk
@johnbouwers6787
@johnbouwers6787 17 сағат бұрын
Is there conjecture that the hill forts - with their outer ditches - were re-enactments of the multilevel dams they logically formed around Doggerland farmsteads as the seas rose? i.e. as fear rose with the sea, smaller dams protected them temporarily but as they eventually fled they took to the highest places to get them ready if the sea rose this high again? Hmmm...
@KenFullman
@KenFullman 15 сағат бұрын
It would be interesting to do a bit of research on mainland Europe to see if there's any evidence that it continued on that side. After all, when Doggerland was land, maybe that path went all the way to Denmark or even Sweden or Norway. It would have all been part of the same contiguous
@JonnoPlays
@JonnoPlays 18 сағат бұрын
You keep posting content about Doggerland, and I'll keep watching it.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 18 сағат бұрын
I do have a bigger video planned actually... specifically on DL.
@vsvnrg3263
@vsvnrg3263 16 сағат бұрын
@@pwhitewick , i'm not sure but i think jonnoplays is taking the piss out of you.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 16 сағат бұрын
@@vsvnrg3263 I'm not so sure. He comments regularly. But either way, all good.
@philhawley1219
@philhawley1219 16 сағат бұрын
@@vsvnrg3263 At 4.46 he goes to see Barbara Castle, the Minister of Transport who couldn't drive a car. On another note I know that on parts of the Kerry Ridgeway on the Welsh/ English border with the magic of GPS it is possible for each partner in a dogging situation can be in a different country assuming the doggy position is used. So a bloke my mate met in a pub said.
@vsvnrg3263
@vsvnrg3263 15 сағат бұрын
@@pwhitewick , the comment section is for laughs as well as information. he beat me to making jokes about doggerland.
@MerridiansWorld-j7m
@MerridiansWorld-j7m 19 сағат бұрын
Great to see Marie doing well and still a great speaker after her stint on Time Team.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 18 сағат бұрын
Yup Mary-Ann is a legend.
@neilbucknell9564
@neilbucknell9564 17 сағат бұрын
As ever, interesting, but I think you are being a little romantic Paul. A more prosaic explanation is that the chalk ridge had one enormous advantage over routes along the valleys beneath. Being on porous rock it was passible for much longer than a route along clay vales (which also would have had many more river crossings too) and river valleys. So it was an obvious route for all longer distance traffic, especially livestock. Its wide margins also point to it being a livestock movement route, where drovers could graze their flocks as they moved them. As a major artery of communication, it would have attracted the construction of significant sites, just as road, canal and rail routes do elsewhere. Any use as a refugee route might have been incidental, not lasting long, but its beyond my knowledge whether this happened before or after the routes were established. Still a fascinating route and full of a sense of history notwithstanding - the designation of a Great Chalk Way is long overdue.
@tednruth453
@tednruth453 15 сағат бұрын
@@neilbucknell9564 most watersheds were the safer and most obvious routes, goes without saying.
@hedleythorne
@hedleythorne 19 сағат бұрын
Superb Paul. Enjoyed our opening event too
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 19 сағат бұрын
Great fun wasn't it.
@DavidRMason1
@DavidRMason1 16 сағат бұрын
Your broadcasts make Sunday evenings so enjoyable. Thanks.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 16 сағат бұрын
Very kind. Thanks
@edwardbates2176
@edwardbates2176 18 сағат бұрын
From Gatlinburg, Tennessee and love this Channel. It allows me to visit the geography and history of Southern England without leaving the beauty of the Smokies. I appreciate the way Paul and Rebecca keep the videos short and concise and "flash" pictures of informational park signs which can be paused and read in full as if you were entering that historic area for a day hike. Thank you!
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 18 сағат бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@jeffricks2640
@jeffricks2640 16 сағат бұрын
nice hypothesis Paul ...makes a lot of sense to me too
@tomlee812
@tomlee812 16 сағат бұрын
I really look forward to these Sunday broadcasts and they've never disappointed. Thank you both for all the hard work you put into making your videos.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 16 сағат бұрын
Our pleasure! Thanks
@mlteyt
@mlteyt 19 сағат бұрын
"Doug Landman" - with that name, he should've become an archeologist.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 19 сағат бұрын
Brilliant right!
@tomeggleston367
@tomeggleston367 18 сағат бұрын
😂
@simonholden1559
@simonholden1559 16 сағат бұрын
I kneel before your genius, brilliant mate
@gudbo
@gudbo 16 сағат бұрын
I first learned about doggerland in timeteam many years ago, and still I find it the most fascinating episode, and I still find doggerland one the most interesting historical stories I’m always fascinated when some new stuff appears
@Alsarcade
@Alsarcade 18 сағат бұрын
I live on the ridgeway near the White Horse pub and I’ve always wondered where the path started and where it could ended up. Makes sense if it’s that old it could have been a longer path connecting us with mainland Europe. Great video always.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 18 сағат бұрын
Cheers. You are a lucky man!
@ajay-xjs
@ajay-xjs 17 сағат бұрын
Having walked the current Ridgeway, it's obvious it originally extended further east and west so this new project linking it to Doggerland is fascinating. Excellent video as always, loving the channel from Alberta Canada
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 17 сағат бұрын
How long did it take you?
@smallsleepyrascalcat
@smallsleepyrascalcat 18 сағат бұрын
That was a very interesting video. The theory that the old still existing pathes were also used as migration routes for those fleeing the flooding of Doggerland are plausible. I wish we could explore the remains at the bottom of the sea far more than we already did. Imagining athriving community where now the North Sea is has always been intriguing. This should be longer though. And thanks for the full speech!
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 18 сағат бұрын
Thank you. Oh indeed for a time machine!... and a decent submarine.
@paulberen
@paulberen 16 сағат бұрын
@@pwhitewick It took about 3,000 years for Doggerland to go underwater, islands forming first in the process.. "The impact of the tsunami generated by the Storega underwater landslide 8,200 years ago on Doggerland is controversial" ..This probably includes the dates involved showing Doggerland was already underwater when the tsunami / tsunamis occured..
@edwardbates2176
@edwardbates2176 18 сағат бұрын
This excellent snapshot of a British prehistory journey way and possible migration route out of Doggerland during the final phase of the last Ice Age ties that long-lost territory to some of our ancestors whose DNA we probably still carry today! The Great Chalk Way is not only a journey across the UK, it is a passageway from 6,200 BCE to the present. Brilliant!
@slydawgg
@slydawgg 19 сағат бұрын
Love this channel….always something interesting to watch 👍
@mooglesmodelrailways
@mooglesmodelrailways 18 сағат бұрын
If story's of the tsunami were passed down it would explain the ridgeway having more meaning to our ancestors. It would also explain why some of the hill forts were built where they were and only used in times of seeking refuge. Our ancestors weren't daft after all!
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 18 сағат бұрын
I have this notion, that even if the stories were lost, maybe that in built fear lasted in the genes!
@BinkyTheElf1
@BinkyTheElf1 18 сағат бұрын
Any deep archaeology must connect with the land down to 300 feet underwater, much of which was occupied, hunted, where caves were used, including the connecting lost area of Doggerland. IMHO, true scientific and geographical inquiry seeks what is, theorizes, then adds new data and fresh discoveries. You do a lot of that primary searching, which is why I enjoy this channel so much. 👏🏻
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 18 сағат бұрын
Thanks Binky. Means a lot.
@BinkyTheElf1
@BinkyTheElf1 18 сағат бұрын
I don’t know my ice ages.. how many times since c. 500K BC might Doggerland have emerged & sunk, & the ridgeways been used? Cheers from Nova Scotia. 🇨🇦
@paulberen
@paulberen 16 сағат бұрын
@@BinkyTheElf1 There were 5 known about or major ice ages, the last one beginning about 2.6 million years ago, and including a time when the equator was close to where Britain is, so it was also a desert, here.. 125,000 years ago a melting ice cap source of rising sea level was at 10 Metres higher than the present level, and there are places in the UK where there is visible evidence in the features that were once under water, consistent to this. Interesting question, remains: was 'Doggerland' above sea level at other times, before it's final sinking some 8,500 years ago.. The 'Norwegian' tsunami mentioned was found by scientists / etc to have been 3 mega tsunamis, and the millions and billions of years ago volcanic and earthquake / upheavals sort of events also shaped the features of the British landscape as it is now.
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 16 сағат бұрын
@@BinkyTheElf1 about 4 times. And each time the population had left the area of modern day britain. And after each they returned.
@N0C0MPLY
@N0C0MPLY 17 сағат бұрын
It's not even a Sunday if I don't get my Whitewick fix. Thanks for another fascinating video. Your voice is becoming the Attenborough narration of British cultural history.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 17 сағат бұрын
Ah thanks, very kind.
@456ArmyGuy
@456ArmyGuy 16 сағат бұрын
I’m late here but I loved this video, the History and The Ancient World of Britain. I never knew about The Ridgeway until you told its story. Thank you Paul
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 16 сағат бұрын
Nothing late here my dude. Allllll good
@davidcadman4468
@davidcadman4468 16 сағат бұрын
My mother was born on the coast of Norfolk. I heard of Doggerland far earlier in the 50's and 60's than many. Her people were trawler captains and crew. I always figured that the stone circles were a sort of Spiritual reaction to the flood, and rising waters. To hear of the Ridgeway now, it makes a lot of sense. Pathways from the Norfolk Coast and other East Coast areas, would have been a natural escape route into the interior and safety. I think it will be found that like a series of river deltas to the sea, they will flow West to connect to the Megalithic Monuments of Stonehenge, Avebury, etc. It is likely not to be one single route from the North Sea. Happy hunting...
@PhilipMurphy8
@PhilipMurphy8 19 сағат бұрын
A fantastic Ridgeway Mystery video there Paul
@Foxtrottangoabc
@Foxtrottangoabc 18 сағат бұрын
I watched today someone suggest the river near Avebury was 25 metres higher around 5000bc , so water , marshes , forest , rivers would have been a major obstacle. The ridgeway would have been used I imagine almost certainly by every generation of human or older species as long as the ridgeway existed . There's some amazing views looking accross the lands below . An excellent place to transfer knowledge , gossip
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 17 сағат бұрын
5000 bc, I think the sea levels were perhaps 30m or so lower. Maybe a tad less. So I am not sure where this Avebury theory keeps proping up. In facr around 2500 - 3000 bc evedence suggests the landscape around Avebury was largely scrub land.
@paulberen
@paulberen 16 сағат бұрын
@@pwhitewick There's a video somewhere that illustrates the higher water level around Avebury, and there's no question there was quite a lot of England under water in relatively recent times, inland to the south from The Wash / Doggerland, for example. But this does not include a timetable, research, when exactly was it higher, and when was it lower?
@Myriad727
@Myriad727 17 сағат бұрын
I've long been fascinated by Doggerland and will add the Great Chalk Way to my endless list of things to do should I ever get to visit the UK.
@henchy3rd
@henchy3rd 17 сағат бұрын
Some people’s ideas of antiquity is utter disbelief. Yours on the other hand makes complete sense.. past down through millennia of oral story telling of a safe route & not forgetting good hunting & gathering along the way.
@Anyone4music
@Anyone4music 17 сағат бұрын
My favourite subject - the change in the coast line. Excellent video Paul.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 17 сағат бұрын
Thanks, more to come!
@nichy777
@nichy777 15 сағат бұрын
I absolutely love your enthusiasm for the stories you tell.
@paulinehedges5088
@paulinehedges5088 17 сағат бұрын
Paul thus channel never fails to deliver new information and suggestions for more research. Thank you. This was particularly interesting. 😊😊😊 😊😊😊
@davidfaulkner527
@davidfaulkner527 16 сағат бұрын
Excellent. Thoroughly enjoyable and interesting.
@zGJungle
@zGJungle 18 сағат бұрын
Top tier content as per usual!
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 18 сағат бұрын
Much appreciated!
@davidberlanny3308
@davidberlanny3308 18 сағат бұрын
Hi Paul, Back then when the sea levels were 300' lower the Ridgeway must have been really high. What an amazing find from dogger bank. Excellent video, well done, all the best!!
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 17 сағат бұрын
Thanks David.
@thedogfather5445
@thedogfather5445 16 сағат бұрын
Sea levels have not risen 300 feet in the last 8000 years. Current estimates are between 18 to 20 metres - 54 feet to 60 feet. Think about it. Dogger Bank was at the surface around that time. It is now about 20 metres below the surface.
@davidberlanny3308
@davidberlanny3308 16 сағат бұрын
@@thedogfather5445 You make a very good point. I suppose the prominence would be the same as it was back then anyway. A NASA report on sea level rise makes interesting reading: After temperatures reached their maximum the ice sheets continued to melt for 8000 years until reaching equilibrium!!
@judithmacfadzen9516
@judithmacfadzen9516 16 сағат бұрын
Lovely to see Mary Ann! Always enjoyed her on Time Team.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 16 сағат бұрын
Me too!
@AFCManUk
@AFCManUk 16 сағат бұрын
Love the Ridgeway. Have walked the parts between Ivinghoe Beacon (Beacon Hill), Wendover and Princes Risborough many times :)
@shirleylynch7529
@shirleylynch7529 17 сағат бұрын
Wow what a video. So,interesting.thank you again Paul For telling us about all these little gems.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 17 сағат бұрын
Thanks Shirley
@paul.Darling
@paul.Darling 18 сағат бұрын
Thank you for another great video, look forward to each update.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 18 сағат бұрын
Cheers Paul
@frankgulla2335
@frankgulla2335 16 сағат бұрын
Paul, what a great talk and open thinking.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 16 сағат бұрын
Thank you
@MrSOLOPIANIST
@MrSOLOPIANIST 15 сағат бұрын
very interesting. Storegga ... A vast event shaping our history to this very day
@sarahbrown7017
@sarahbrown7017 18 сағат бұрын
I agree that these pathways may have been used as an escape route. However, they must have been already known, and used for the people fleeing the water to know about them and take them. It could be that they were as much of the ceremonial landscape and connectivity of the peoples as Avebury and Stonehenge were. Perhaps they were pilgrimage routes or trade routes? It is know that trading existed, by the goods that have been found from European areas during archaeological studies. Thank you for sharing your theories and understanding of events. I look forward to seeing your videos every week.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 17 сағат бұрын
Thanks Sarah. Yup, I guess in truth this would have gone south not just to Doggerland, but perhaps the southern end existed long before and continued into France
@paulberen
@paulberen 17 сағат бұрын
Interesting vid but the tsunami origins of the Ridgeway route is a bit imaginative and theoretical, while earliest routes everywhere naturally followed the high ground of ridge hills as the easiest and safest routes to travel along. Wild terrain and wild animals in the lowlands back in time, made ridge top routes safer and easier, and look at maps with contours, or the contours in colours; and see how roads, lanes and trackways; and as visible by the lanes still in use, follow ridge top / hill top routes, and divide off the hills along 'side' ridges and following the ridge peak lines.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 16 сағат бұрын
I suspect it was in use for longer... but I like the notion of people using it because it held significance already and then became even stronger. The tsunami was said to be 30m at some points. That's enough to live in the memory of those that survived, enough to ensure you passed that fear on
@paulberen
@paulberen 16 сағат бұрын
@@pwhitewick Makes sense, and it's also like in the DNA, especially in males, who prefer a higher place / places for a feeling of security and safety.
@Sim0nTrains
@Sim0nTrains 17 сағат бұрын
Nice video and well presented Paul. Also during the speeches, finding Paul was the worst where whalley I've ever played like at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="582">9:42</a> lol
@sr6424
@sr6424 16 сағат бұрын
Probably 25 years ago I bought a book on cycling the Chalk Way. It is a slightly different route of today’s version. We did the southern part of it. Started at Weymouth . Headed up through Dorchester, Shaftesbury, Salisbury, Marlborough ended in Wallingford before heading home. We had to divert a few times and hit tarmac due to time constraints. I’d like to give it another go now it’s an official route.
@Maceochaidh677
@Maceochaidh677 17 сағат бұрын
Excellent concise video, It's inspired me to look into any research around whether the propensity of settlements on top of hills is more due to this flood event in dogger land and not necessarily just for military defence. It could well be that like you mentioned that social memory lingered on so they built accordingly.
@LKBRICKS1993
@LKBRICKS1993 16 сағат бұрын
Excellent found it very interesting. Really enjoying your videos.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 16 сағат бұрын
Thank you
@chris5706
@chris5706 15 сағат бұрын
Such an interesting story and your interpretation makes sense. It also explains why it is littered with monuments over the eons.
@patthewoodboy
@patthewoodboy 17 сағат бұрын
better than anything on TV , thanks 🙂
@petepaine5331
@petepaine5331 16 сағат бұрын
Great, very Interesting. Doggerland is so fascinating. Beacon hill is in Buckinghamshire btw
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 16 сағат бұрын
Ooooops. Always get those mixed up
@petepaine5331
@petepaine5331 16 сағат бұрын
@@pwhitewick easily done as the County boundaries for Herts and Bucks are all over the place in this area
@vermeerofdelftscotlandwalk3294
@vermeerofdelftscotlandwalk3294 15 сағат бұрын
Very interesting! I must climb Hadrian's Wall and visit the Great Chalk Way some time. Great video.👍
@leopard36cat
@leopard36cat 15 сағат бұрын
I walked this from Pedders way in Norfolk, too Cornwall 25 years ago, Good for your mental and physical health. The views relax you eyes.Walking you feel the presence of the Ancestors. From Grimmes graves in thetford forest They transported high quality Flints all the way to cornwall they find Grimmes graves Flints.
@tednruth453
@tednruth453 17 сағат бұрын
Sunday's are my favourite KZbin day and Mr P. Whitewick is top of the pops 🎉
@EmilyMitchell-s8e
@EmilyMitchell-s8e 18 сағат бұрын
Your videos are more than just entertainment, they are a journey into a world of beauty and wisdom. Thank you for your dedication!Your videos are always filled with deep meaning and emotion. Thank you for your creativity and effort!🦆🍆🤸‍
@DaveAinsworth-y8h
@DaveAinsworth-y8h 17 сағат бұрын
Ridgeway Path goes twice in Buckinghamshire, the Ridgeway Path is next Icknield Way. I was born and lived in Wendover and the highest of Chilterns Hills the Haddingtom Hill which in Halton and next to RAF Halton.
@jerrygale1994
@jerrygale1994 17 сағат бұрын
Fabulously interesting video. Thank you for creating and sharing
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 17 сағат бұрын
Our pleasure!
@walkingthewyrd
@walkingthewyrd 16 сағат бұрын
Loved this, Paul!
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 16 сағат бұрын
Thanks Nic
@BruceJSkelly
@BruceJSkelly 18 сағат бұрын
Can you imagine looking out over that land and seeing smoke rising from numerous settlements dotted over the land?
@Pressure_23
@Pressure_23 16 сағат бұрын
Excellent. Fully agree, this is plausible hypothesis. I think the tsunami event might possibly have been recent enough, and traumatic enough, to enter long term myth among the population. If you could do a follow up video about the location of 4kbce sample out at sea, and the nautical topography around it, that would be great
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 16 сағат бұрын
Thanks. Working on it!
@randycompton5230
@randycompton5230 18 сағат бұрын
I think Doggerland land is the most significant archaeological area in Europe. I think one day will discover agriculture started there looong ago.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 18 сағат бұрын
Could not agree more. I think the next 50 years or so will tell us so much more.
@bearcubdaycare
@bearcubdaycare 17 сағат бұрын
I wonder if the way's use as, perhaps, a trading route for people from far and wide, factored into why stones were brought from so far to Stonehenge? Maybe all the contact with different peoples and hearing about their places created interest.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 17 сағат бұрын
I think you are right.
@paulberen
@paulberen 15 сағат бұрын
@@pwhitewick An example of this is how the one Flint Quarry in Cumbria was a source of Flints found everywhere in Britain - or everywhere where routes connected it up - and as evidenced by the locations where the Cumbria Flints were sourced from. (Known as The Langdale Axe Factory).
@andyalder7910
@andyalder7910 19 сағат бұрын
If you consider the Icknield way to be the extended Ridgeway then it already goes to Royston. You were hinting that it may have ended at Dunstable at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="192">3:12</a> ?
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 19 сағат бұрын
Yep very true. Not specifically but I'm sure it went through it. If that's what you mean?
@andyalder7910
@andyalder7910 18 сағат бұрын
@@pwhitewick I'd only traced the Icknield way as far as Royston, mainly driving on business trips, but I see from the field alignment that it probably carried on past Duxford even though it's well inside the land of the Iceni by then.
@altair8598
@altair8598 16 сағат бұрын
I think you are on to something there, Paul. Are Grimes' Graves anywhere near the putative route from Doggerland?
@eamonnmc1
@eamonnmc1 16 сағат бұрын
Very interesting, thank you
@michaelmiller641
@michaelmiller641 17 сағат бұрын
Fascinating! thanks!
@davie941
@davie941 18 сағат бұрын
well done and thank you again Paul , very interesting 😊🎃
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 18 сағат бұрын
Cheers Davie. Apprciated.
@johnhughes8563
@johnhughes8563 17 сағат бұрын
Excellent video thank you so much .
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 17 сағат бұрын
You are welcome!
@gofiodetrigo8756
@gofiodetrigo8756 17 сағат бұрын
that was some nice featuring stars hehe have you ever been way down south west to the Penzamce/Marazion/St Michael's mount area on the lowest of a full moon tide :? It just lasts for a few moments and only happens about once every other year so a tight window opportunity
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 17 сағат бұрын
Ooooh, I have not. What time of year?
@gofiodetrigo8756
@gofiodetrigo8756 17 сағат бұрын
@@pwhitewick haven't checked as of late but we'd need a decent year round tides time table and figure it out from there the lowest though is with the full moon and not the new moon as in other parts of the world so that reduces the chances to 12/13 times a year and about one hour long as much thing is that petrified wood from the ancient forest comes out above sea level there's been some photographers who have managed to take some few decent shots and uploaded online I think it won't take you long to find these out
@robertmaitland09
@robertmaitland09 15 сағат бұрын
Thanks Paul. Good work.
@Lemma01
@Lemma01 15 сағат бұрын
Since we know all about Doggerland, why does anyone question Atlantis? Not suggesting much if any of the details are accurate, merely that 100m+ sea level rises submerged A LOT of ground, across the world. Thanks for the vid, Paul. ❤
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 15 сағат бұрын
I guess because we have zero evidence for it's existence
@britishlongbarrows
@britishlongbarrows 17 сағат бұрын
Another theory well explained! 😀
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 16 сағат бұрын
Thanks! 😃
@vsvnrg3263
@vsvnrg3263 16 сағат бұрын
while sea levels drop because of ice, land also drops under the weight of that ice depositing on the land. as the ice melts and sea levels rise the land will rise and not necessarily smoothly. hence, the end of the ice age may cause catastrophic tsunamis. by the way, the scandinavian peninsula is still rising. one end is rising faster than the other end. i have seen a trace about 100kms inland in victoria, australia of where a tsunami may have reached. that tsunami would have originated in antarctica, which also lost a lot of ice after the last ice age.
@peteregan3862
@peteregan3862 15 сағат бұрын
Lots of interesting points made. While the UK was joined to mainland the Ridgeway would have been a key path from the sea to the lowland that was Doggerland. I would speculate that the people living in Doggerland would have known of the sea in the English Channel. It may have been a two-week walk away. Grade is important. How many metres up and down along the Chalk Way compared to other routes?? Grade and winding-ness are key aspects of a route that contribute to its use over others. The great chalk way could have been the main long distance route of its day due to requiring the least energy used. Railways are assessed based on curvature - a curve might change a railway direction but 120 degrees. Add up all the degrees from each curve, divide by 360 degrees and we get the number of circles a railway goes through between two points. The metres of height change are counted too. Old pathways can be assessed for these two criteria and it will surely tell us much about their use.
@leonardjackman354
@leonardjackman354 17 сағат бұрын
Great video Paul lovely views.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 17 сағат бұрын
Many thanks
@charleswillcock3235
@charleswillcock3235 17 сағат бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@amandachapman4708
@amandachapman4708 17 сағат бұрын
I've often wondered what happened at either end of the Ridgeway, why Peddar's Way is so short and what happened at its ends. Also, a reason for hill forts (of whatever type) were up there - perhaps the reason lies at least partly in folk memory of flood and devastation. It would be interesting to explore what remains of our ancient folk tales and legends for clues.
@paulberen
@paulberen 15 сағат бұрын
Peddars Way is a recent name for just a part of a Roman Road, that from North East Norfolk, at the 2 Wood Rings * at Holme next the Sea and Ringstead; is visible as a one straight line to Castle Acre, and then turns inland, towards London area. *Its believed that a number of wood circles in Norfolk were known as Rings, and certainly not henges, like the name the media made up for 'Woodhenge' - that archaeologists don't agree with because there's no henge there - an earth ditch and bank - just two circles of wood with no ditches or banks.. (One way along the coast from the Holme Wood Rings is Sherringham - the other way and also along the coast, is Sandringham).
@paulberen
@paulberen 15 сағат бұрын
The Norfolk Coast end of Peddars Way is written as most likley a ferry port location to cross to Skegness area and towards Lincoln, while the walking route named Peddars Way continues southwards from Castle Acre, though the Roman Road turns towards London at Castle Acre. Peddars Way is the name of a path, not the name of the Roman Road involved. One for Paul? The full 'Peddars Way' Roman Road - that south / south-westwards, heads into the marshy or flooded terrain to the south of The Wash..
@meruluss
@meruluss 18 сағат бұрын
This all beggars the question that the Ridgeway was already an ancient route to the Netherlands or Scandinavia or both in Neolithic times?
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 18 сағат бұрын
Absolutely... and.... don't forget to the south!
@paulberen
@paulberen 15 сағат бұрын
Completely feasible! Trade around the world in metals and flints was going on for as long as flints and metals were used by people all around the world. Evidence has shown this, and regardless of this, if there was walkable land between Britain and Europe and Scandinavia, people would have been moving across it, and occupying it for whatever other reason, not just trade, so long distance routes just a part of life, wherever and whenever people could walk and travel..
@paulberen
@paulberen 15 сағат бұрын
And not to forget to the south included! thank you Paul.
@pilpelet100
@pilpelet100 18 сағат бұрын
Fascinating. Thanks.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 18 сағат бұрын
Our pleasure!
@AmyBee4
@AmyBee4 17 сағат бұрын
Love the theory!
@liamfinch4129
@liamfinch4129 18 сағат бұрын
Thought provoking - thanks
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 18 сағат бұрын
Thank you.
@paulberen
@paulberen 15 сағат бұрын
@@pwhitewick Guessing that you meant the Storegga underwater landslip tsunamis, though, about 6,200 BC.
@stuartbridger5177
@stuartbridger5177 18 сағат бұрын
Great video and interesting theory
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 18 сағат бұрын
Thanks!
@ajp717
@ajp717 15 сағат бұрын
That was excellent...
@Andyww08
@Andyww08 17 сағат бұрын
She was on Timeteam for the last season
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 17 сағат бұрын
Yup and brilliant at that.
@aengusmacnaughton1375
@aengusmacnaughton1375 15 сағат бұрын
Quick question -- when sea levels were low enough to connect Great Britain to the continent (Doggerland) -- would that also have connected Great Britain to Ireland? Or is the sea a lot deeper between those two?
@GluteMaximuz
@GluteMaximuz 15 сағат бұрын
Will you be visiting Scutchamer's Knob on the ridgeway?
@66kbm
@66kbm 17 сағат бұрын
Great video, not your fault but why do Morris dancers have anything to do with this? Ex Time Team personnel says it all really.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 17 сағат бұрын
Erm.... not sure. Guess it just added to the atmosphere.
@michaelfoy
@michaelfoy 17 сағат бұрын
Suppose Traditional practices And bit of fun.....They celebrate Almost Anything down here in Devon.....😊
@ThisWontEndWell
@ThisWontEndWell 15 сағат бұрын
I have long thought the universal legend of Atlantis is a much-mutated remnant of the oral history passed down from the loss of Doggerland
@NSYresearch
@NSYresearch 15 сағат бұрын
Didn't the Norwegian Tsunami strip away huge amounts of top soil and vegetation from the east coast of Scotland, changing the landscape for millennia?
@steveNCB7754
@steveNCB7754 16 сағат бұрын
"... this is important for wildlife and biodiversty" (also Paul: carelessly kills an innocent example of that biodiversity, during the 'outro'). 🤨
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 15 сағат бұрын
😬😬
@AndyJarman
@AndyJarman 16 сағат бұрын
"Primal fear"? Connecting with Europe would have been a source of wealth. As the waters separating the UK and Europe widened it would have set up maritime trade routes between communities that would have once dwealt on Doggerland but which were slowly divided by the rising waters.
@wideyxyz2271
@wideyxyz2271 18 сағат бұрын
@eamonnmc1
@eamonnmc1 16 сағат бұрын
I have read a lot about the subject and I really believe that it is from this that the story of the great Flood and Noah ark actually came from
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 16 сағат бұрын
Oh interesting.
@cheriestl
@cheriestl 15 сағат бұрын
Did I get this right:This tsunami was called the Stroger event?
@zedzed7404
@zedzed7404 17 сағат бұрын
I think it's extremely foolish to think that people were not still using flint tools in the iron age. I'm not a historian but that's like assuming nobody rides bicycles because helicopters exist. You can't predate an iron age fort based on finding a flint tool however much you'd like to.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 17 сағат бұрын
Fair point, but the dates are often given in context to the location and other finds too. But I appreciate your point.
@zedzed7404
@zedzed7404 16 сағат бұрын
@@pwhitewick I do enjoy your channel and by "you" I meant one/we, not you personally. :)
@BRIANJAMESGIBB
@BRIANJAMESGIBB 17 сағат бұрын
Ta ❤️
@philthycat1408
@philthycat1408 16 сағат бұрын
You’re living on the coast and you’re hit with a a tsunami ! Get yourself up a hill and make yourself a fort. Common sense.
@Paulftate
@Paulftate 16 сағат бұрын
I'm thinking when the dogger Banks was a land link to Mainland Europe the Sahara was Green ... I'm thinking it has less to do with climate change and more to do with the rotation of the Earth on its axis
@fxbootstraps
@fxbootstraps 18 сағат бұрын
You could put a train track on it. Sorry couldn't resist.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 18 сағат бұрын
Could be worse!
@cheriestl
@cheriestl 15 сағат бұрын
Why is it called “the Great Chalk Way”?
@JamieAlice92
@JamieAlice92 16 сағат бұрын
I wish they’d come up with a better name for it than “Doggerland.”
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 16 сағат бұрын
Fair!
@bobroberts6155
@bobroberts6155 15 сағат бұрын
We can never true know the minds of our ancient ancestors beyond our shared primal drivers of food, shelter and procreation. Everything about motivation and society must be conjecture and the evidence we do have is subject to interpretation coloured by our own societal norms and unintentional bias, like the once prevalent notion that ‘cave men’ must have been less intelligent than us. When I am walking an ancient trackway or rest by a burial mound I feel a reassuring connection of shared humanity across the centuries but also realise that on an intellectual level I can never really understand the minds of my ancient ancestors or comprehend their world view. An archaeologist can tell you from whence people transported a mighty sarson but anything they tell you about why they did so remains pure speculation. Based on this almost any theory is plausible and Paul’s is as good as any that ‘experts’ may espouse.
@DinsDale-tx4br
@DinsDale-tx4br 16 сағат бұрын
lol @ a ley line for dogging :-)
@bigantplowright5711
@bigantplowright5711 15 сағат бұрын
all went well until Ochota appeared with her progressive modern out look........
@bartsanders1553
@bartsanders1553 19 сағат бұрын
More proof of the Biblical Flood.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 19 сағат бұрын
No, it's just a scientifically based one on actual physical evidence.
@ChrisShortyAllen
@ChrisShortyAllen 16 сағат бұрын
No.
@leoniebelcher1680
@leoniebelcher1680 15 сағат бұрын
There have been floods in history likely hundreds or even thousands of times. Nothing "biblical" about them. Most cultures have flood stories. Before books people told their histories. Stories persisted. Much of what is in the bible can be traced to the religion of ancient Egypt. And Egypt likely took stories that were much older and incorporated them. Remember, the Nile flooded yearly. Some years worse than others. The bible is just some men's interpretation of stories they heard and adapted to their uses.
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