The Right Way to Use a Ferro Rod

I refuse to get into a debate over the proper way to strike a ferro rod. But I would like to offer my humble opinion that there is more than one way, and each way has a place. I am not an instructor. But I have watched many experts strike the ferrocerium rod effectively in a number of ways. I say, become proficient in every possible way there is to use a tool. #fire #survival #outdoors #bushcraft #camping
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[@seanfernandolopez9139]

"If it's stupid but it works, it isn't stupid." US Army proverb

[@strongperson697]

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@salmonoven]

Wondering if every single teachers and corporates in the world would be like this

[@alexboehmer6888]

Sounds like something chef would tell me , “if you do something different and the same product comes out I don’t give a shit “

[@dfchannel9924]

Orks Technology be like:

[@ThBlueSalamander]

​@@salmonoven if they were honest and intelligent then yes.

[@TGLAOutdoorLiving]

It’s called “survival”… no matter how you can come about food, water, shelter or fire, you have achieved your mission. You have it right, my friend.

[@joesoutdoorplaces]

Precisely

[@4keYgrindsGames]

there's more because it matters "how". If you're in survival scenario then you also want to save on resources, if you know you can use something in a different way that will use less of it, or in a way that makes the leftovers reusable the same or another way then it's always better to opt for it. The household equivalent of that also exist. For example what can you do with a leftover chicken soup, you can just eat it but more optimal way would be to filter it, chicken stock can be mixed with tomato paste to make more nutritious soup and the leftover vegetables and bones can be thrown into a composter, any leftovers meat can be fried or cooked in an oven and you don't even have to season it cause it was sitting in flavorful soup for days

[@TGLAOutdoorLiving]

@@4keYgrindsGames you’re right, and that aligns with what the op and I said perfectly. A little bit of any good thing is still a good thing, regardless of how you go about it.

[@carlerwinsabijon8646]

you're not gonna survive long if you keep using your resources the wrong way

[@TGLAOutdoorLiving]

@@carlerwinsabijon8646 I agree with your statement. Not the overall message. If you get the result you NEED from your action, it’s not a waste of resources. What you said ABSOLUTELY applies if you have some dry tender and a bic but opt to make fire using duct tape and a ferro rod. But that’s not the message being conveyed in this video, my friend. Hope this helps!

[@JD-gn6du]

Both methods work, knowing when to use each method is key

[@PedroLucas-cs9ye]

And what is the difference between the two?

[@friendlygamer8546]

@@PedroLucas-cs9ye I would think that the back would last longer than the blade

[@PedroLucas-cs9ye]

@@friendlygamer8546 no no, he's using the back of the blade in all cases. The difference is in one he scraps the blade on the rode and in other the rode on the blade. But after some time I realized that scraping the rode on the blade is better to avoid spreading the combustible to a larger area.

[@LostSoulAscension]

​@@PedroLucas-cs9yeyeah so basically he's showing us both are right ways, one allows the spark to catch flame on the cotton easily because the cotton is stuck together, but for the thicker matterial that is harder to catch flame, you don't want to accidentally push it away, so you pull on the blade to keep the fire fuel in the same place.

[@itwaS2much004]

We appreciate you getting your thumb injured to show us the right procedure! 😊 🤜🤛

[@spydercolover100]

Nah you gotta throw them shavings everywhere. It's important to preheat the surrounding area.

[@joesoutdoorplaces]

Good point

[@jay-tl2un]

Lol

[@Ms.NoNo2]

Anytime I watch any survival show, I get annoyed at how slow and far away from the kindling they’re using the rod.

[@SouthFloridaWoman]

😂

[@punhosdepano5805]

Nah,you gotta bring a flamethrower.

[@djtblizzle]

In a survival situation it’s whatever works! “Right and wrong” are for social media.

[@joesoutdoorplaces]

Agree

[@flashgameer1258]

​@@joesoutdoorplaceswhat is it called? The object' that you scratch the knife with!

[@aiman3074]

Idk much but the title says Ferro rod

[@djtblizzle]

@@flashgameer1258 ferro rod

[@punhosdepano5805]

But you should do what is more practical,so...

[@Jake0358]

Survival tip: always take several lighters with you 😂

[@shameeriqmal2565]

Lighters have some draw backs and impractical…in some cases the lighter might malfunction, run out of gas, broken, explode, and taking up too much space for only to last for a while…whilst the flint last much more longer, waterproof, safer

[@colegoulet1023]

I can dry my Ferro rod in seconds no matter where I am, get a spark even if it's slightly damp. A lighter if it's wet and frozen cold that shit isn't going to dry when you need it. What if all your shit gets soaked you fell in the water and need fire to heat you up NOW. Or freeze to death.. I'll take the rod, which also takes less dexterity that you might not have when frozen from being ice dunked Or with frostbitten/frostburnt hands (you'd never work a lighter) like ice solid fingers, we're talking you can only close your hand by the palm. The fingers DO NOT WORK from the cold. A rod and knife is the only thing that will save you from proceeding to comepletely lose function of your hands.. then limbs. Hypothermia

[@brandonzachman7771]

​​@@colegoulet1023 simple bic lighter will work if wet. The key is to double check your gear before you use it in the field. Some disposable lighters don't work great when wet. Others do. Some float, some don't. A ferro rod is good back-up, but shouldn't be your primary or even secondary ignition source.

[@xD3m0nx]

Zippo is king... Beat that 😏

[@Jake0358]

@@shameeriqmal2565 it was a joke Lol

[@MtnBadger]

It's not rocket surgery. Slowly scrape some of the rod material onto the tinder as that's what actually gets things started, then pull the rod back while holding knife/striker stationary so as not to disturb the tinder nest/bundle. Works every time. 😊

[@Jackdman25]

Rocket surgery? Lmao what

[@VoidySan]

​@@Jackdman25 it's a combination of the rocket science and brain surgery.

[@MtnBadger]

@@Jackdman25 Yeah... Rocket surgery and brain science, The two main disciplins. Where you been?? 😉

[@strizzy239]

@@Jackdman25 😆 100% stealing that from him

[@Jackdman25]

@@MtnBadger haha

[@affanfadillah17]

there is no right or wrong way, the key is being adaptive to every situation

[@imnotaracistokay]

​@Thickok45 I actually thought you were "him" for a second there, nvm

[@dingdingdong2697]

​@@imnotaracistokay hes him 😔

[@YounesLayachi]

That's right. Reality is not simplistic yes/no boxes

[@user-sx4vp8kb9b]

That's militant. Adaptation, weaponization, cloaking or, camoflage/security.

[@cybergongaming4349]

That the point of this video

[@Enju23]

It’s funny because you can hear how light he goes at the first sawdust pile 😂

[@ShuRugal]

the point was to demonstrate that by sweeping the blade into the sawdust pile, he scattered the pile. Obviously he wouldn't strike actual sparks when he knew he was going to scatter his tinder... Bro's making a youtube video, not tryna do arson.

[@RexCognitionis]

I was going to make this same comment, but there's another part. Notice it's the only scrape where he's dragging the knife past the rod, and even into the tinder.

[@matte5404]

​@ShuRugal Except he only scattered the pile because he wanted to scatter the pile. He literally purposely did it incorrectly to disingenuous show that it it's the "wrong way." Which doesn't prove anything except that he can't be trusted.

[@dz1_randomviewah]

​@@matte5404...the whole point was that however you do it, if you start a fire, it's the "right way". Note how he then demonstrates lighting sparks without going past the rod. That's why there are question marks after "right way" and "wrong way".

[@matte5404]

@@dz1_randomviewah Right, and do you notice something about the saw dust when he did it the "wrong way"? He didn't make a fire because he didn't want to make a fire. I.e it's the "wrong way." Your point only works if he lit the fire in all examples, but he didn't do that, and he did it on purpose too.

[@user_9346]

"If it working, do not try fix it." -average developer

[@CosmicFever]

That's how you get spaghetti code

[@sakesaurus]

​@@CosmicFeverspaghetti code works as long as you don't accumulate tech debt

[@CosmicFever]

@@sakesaurus tech debt?

[@sakesaurus]

@@CosmicFever yuh technological debt it's when someone patches a videogame bug causing 2 bugs to emerge from the spaghetti

[@zildiun2327]

For a moment I thought you were going to strike with the edge. I had the FBI on speed dial there 😂

[@joesoutdoorplaces]

I’ve seen it done. Thanks for watching.

[@omorfia7204]

As long as it lit, it is the right way.

[@abandonedotter4270]

Pulling the rod instead of pushing the knife gives you better control. Great demo

[@lakshyapratapsingh9360]

Bear Grylls watching :hehehehe 😁😁😁

[@NivekThePlayer]

The fact you can change the direction to get a better angle is the lesson I got

[@shawnastepp8509]

I've never seen it done this way before! Thanks for the demonstration!

[@lowermichiganadventures]

Thanks so much for sharing definitely going to work on my game

[@joesoutdoorplaces]

I’ve been carrying a ferro rod in survival kits for most of my life. Never used one until a few years ago. I know now I might have been in trouble in a survival situation in those years before I began practicing using one. Thanks for watching.

[@dragonfire2246]

"Hey, what's the right way to use this thing?" "Does it work? Yes? Go away."

[@joesoutdoorplaces]

Exactly

[@swordfire5013]

"if you start a fire it is the right way" *scrapes towards myself lighting myself on fire*

[@hunterdude113]

Never thought of dragging the ferocium on the knife, interesting concept, will apply it!

[@yuliusmt]

This is typically math teacher who doesnt like the student solve his question with diff formula.

[@Jacob-ft6ts]

“If it works, it works” I say this at work like 20 times a day

[@joesoutdoorplaces]

Absolutely

[@karmoto8280]

"Clean fire could be deadly but dirty fire could be safe"

[@joesoutdoorplaces]

Interesting

[@kingnomadxv3251]

Something so simple yet could be the difference between a warm night and a cold one. Especially for first timers. Thanks for the clip!

[@agesadventures]

Great demo of how to do it the right way 🔥🔥🔥

[@Taterherron]

How many times did you watch this? Me: Yes

[@jpsilver3510]

Wow, it was really refreshing to read the comments and actually see how everyone agrees on something for once.

[@joesoutdoorplaces]

This video has attracted every possible comment. Love it. Thanks for watching.

[@101Meeko101]

If shit makes me fire, I’m ok with it.

[@LETSGETUTILIZED316]

Its obvious that on the 4th one you didn't apply enough pressure.

[@giodafishking]

I think what he was trying to show was that when you lite it like that it will make the shavings go everywhere but I might be wrong.

[@LETSGETUTILIZED316]

@@giodafishking oh okay. Definitely possible. Thank you for the feedback.

[@atlasdgen]

​@@giodafishkingnah, he could've done it a lot cleaner like earlier but did it dumber

[@littlepumpkinseed]

I have a way shorter ferrorod and I had this problem of the shavings being pushen away! :) with the long fury ball it was no problem but with the tiny shavings it was a hindrence! Deff keeping his techniek in mind next time!

[@vcarriere]

@@giodafishking It's stupid because usually you strike more from up to down at an angle while he's showing almost horizontal. It's made for clicks and views after all.

[@AnotherForestDweller]

its the same as "you got the correct answer for this math problem but used the wrong formula"

[@AnimeSunglasses]

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"

[@v.k.9150]

Same with cooking. If it tastes good, do whatever you want. 👍🏻

[@joesoutdoorplaces]

Agree

[@fab.prodesign8712]

Well, if you only use one part of the rod then it will wear down unevenly. If you strike it sideways on one part then the rod will become weak and thin, ideally you should strike the the whole length of the rod with even strength with the rod slightly facing down onto kindle.

[@wesleypipesgaming19]

I've never seen the rod dragged that way. Very smart to keep from hitting your tinder with the knife. Thanks!

[@joesoutdoorplaces]

Thank you

[@mr.v4486]

Smartest thing I've heard/read all day.

[@Wolffjaeger]

Doesn't matter that much in survival situation. As long as you can get fire started in anyway, you're good to survive

[@Airin258]

If you're moving knife you have higher chances to get cut Anyway, not like it requires any additional effort to do it with higher efficiency, so why not just do it better way?

[@r.fo.839]

Are there really people out there that nitpick how you should “properly” survive in the wilderness lol “Dammit, I got the fire going but I used the wrong technique… time to put it out and try again” 😭

[@1robinjr]

Considering all these guys are actually just role playing, yes they do. It's all they can do.

[@buckfutter99]

Yes, the people nitpicking are the first ones that would die in end of world apocalypse. At least they can remember the Toc Tiks

[@BeetleBuns]

he even goes full infomercial and intentionally screws up

[@muffiniepuffs6365]

I am a big fan of knowing the correct way, and finding the right way

[@trexwithlasereyes9524]

The fact you have a band-aid there speaks a million words.

[@joesoutdoorplaces]

Ha. Injuries occur in all things. Thanks for watching and for your comment. Stay well.

[@chocskiambu]

This is the way.

[@raidoutstudios1821]

This is the way.

[@goblindemon2276]

This is the way​@@raidoutstudios1821

[@docsmith9237]

This is the way.

[@DobreFornet]

Bro did not slow down his sliding just so a spark can't form💀💀💀

[@nicklance4788]

Having options is good, having a fire is better

[@sean9163]

No voiceover needed, just quick and to the point. I like it.

[@Alaskaflyfishing]

I mean, when you see a Band-Aid on his thumb, you know his still new to this and just figured it out

[@AtlasAnimationXzX]

“there is no right or wrong way if it works” and that is how I failed math

[@Finnspeed]

The wind blowing it all away is too accurate

[@Sagardeep_Das]

Bro just discovered fire. 💀

[@redclayscholar620]

Guys, I have the lighter right here... "Shut the fck up, Carl!"

[@joesoutdoorplaces]

It thought it was Donnie

[@TorontoCanada5]

Love how you didn’t even try to light the shavings

[@Whither616]

This is like watching a bad infomercial

[@joesoutdoorplaces]

Thank goodness this one is only 20 seconds. Those infomercials are endless. Ha

[@WSP1482]

As the mandalore once said: this is the way!

[@PhoenixBlaze1776]

I don't think there is a "wrong way" or "right way" As long as you get the damn fire started it doesn't matter.

[@placecamping]

Never tried on my videos , but i like it

[@user-uq4we9ke1x]

I love how you stopped halfway on the Flint, but you went all the way through for the wood chips

[@bigfish8280]

Most ridiculous thing I've ever seen! No matter which way you do it, if it works it works. If you start a fire, you start a fire

[@joesoutdoorplaces]

I said that in the text

[@GOTTHEDAWGINME]

I use the back because I don’t want to dull my edge

[@SnailHatan]

They used the back too. Try actually watching

[@GOTTHEDAWGINME]

@@SnailHatan Bruh, try reading the comment, I’m saying I prefer the back, not saying that he missed it

[@MattCosta-zw2qu]

I think batting our entire tinder pile everywhere is almost like a rite of passage

[@13B-POWAH]

thats like telling someone they're eating a sandwich upside down

[@joesoutdoorplaces]

Exactly. Anyway that works.

[@joshuaweezorak7042]

" I did something the worst possible way it could be done so that way it looks like I actually know what I'm talking about when I correct it"

[@joesoutdoorplaces]

The bottom line is, whatever way you are successful making fire, it’s the right way. I was hoping to convey that some ways are better in certain situations. Thanks for watching and for your comment.

[@DCBreezy.55]

I’ll keep this video in mind if I’m ever cast for Survivor lol

[@theoriginalmonstermaker]

I got 1.5 seconds into this, and without any previous knowledge (which at times only serves to develop biases), thought: I guess it would depend on how you want to project the sparks, and whether the motion would disrupt the 🔥 material you have set up. .... but never thought of pinning down the stuff with the ferro rod. That's a good idea too!

[@meowmeow-sx8cw]

“This is the way.”

[@shademournthepegasi2366]

I could never figure out how to use a fero rod but then again nobody ever showed me how so I was just trying to figure it out on my own with no success

[@Triplecautions]

Time to make Nether Portal with this one🗣️🔥

[@tiffanygreen6903]

I think “better” is a better choice of word than “right/wrong”

[@joesoutdoorplaces]

Thank you

[@Mechanon62]

That is very helpful and informative. Thanks!😊

[@joesoutdoorplaces]

Thank you

[@zoeyrobertson-degraaff2722]

That's what I would always say when my dance teacher caught me doing some weird never before seen stretch. She would say that isn't a real stretch, and I would reply back, if you can feel it stretching it's a stretch.

[@carlerwinsabijon8646]

the right way is not just for making things work. its also for utilizing your resources to the full capacity.

[@joesoutdoorplaces]

Great point. Thank you.

[@rollypollyguy3976]

If you got fire, you're doing something right. Mission Accomplished!

[@joesoutdoorplaces]

Exactly

[@MrCurse]

"If it works, it works" - Me

[@HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy]

The metal often sticks to the blade when the rod is pulled away. It's all situational

[@mr.galactic8064]

This is extremely useful

[@KittMonsta]

That's why good rods have a handle

[@codename004]

"I don't care if this is the right way or not. As long it is working, it works. " -Liu Chen

[@taysou47291]

This helped me so much

[@paulw9516]

I like making a little pile of shavings for a good start. But with a good tinder, not much more is needed. Other than patience.

[@nekofrost9935]

"It's the right way if it works."

[@mentalimbalance6808]

Perfect demo!

[@aidankillgo598]

The fact that the clip when he throws the shaving with the knife is the only one where the knife leaves the magnesium.

[@Multiversal_Guardian_Of_Ice]

Bro got fire aspect

[@FuelGaming645]

the sawdust looked like a fat nug of weed in the thumbnail for a second

[@joesoutdoorplaces]

Ha

[@RorchaksRevenge]

"Vs the super flex sunglasses"

[@ariffurqan9862]

I think the better way to make fire is to carry a lighter it cheap and easy to use

[@joesoutdoorplaces]

Only a fraction of the fun though

[@ariffurqan9862]

@@joesoutdoorplaces why you think so?

[@rudraAstronomy2077]

Bear Grylls follow the wrong way 🗿👍🏻

[@jeremyhume5563]

One reason to pull instead of push is to concentrate all sparks onto the correct location, instead of losing some as you travel down the rod in a pushing motion.

[@rensenbon3389]

"This is the Way" ~ Mandalorian 😅

[@scottflowers7780]

Thanks for this video. I been having problems lighting a feral rod.

[@straight-up-shots]

I love this video and your wisdom.

[@johnnykobra7256]

If it hurts it works If it sounds good it is good

[@user-jc5qn1rd7c]

If it works, it works

[@mikedier6970]

Somebody caught their finger

[@davidsaxton7656]

This video is so real I can smell the fire!

[@anthonywilliams379]

personally I prefer to keep the striker, especially if it's a knife static and draw the rod against it, mainly because it's easier to maintain a good angle against the rod and put a good amount of force against it without a knife blade being waved around

[@thesockunderyourbed261]

My slow ass always thought u used the sharp end of the knife

[@jesspurp9122]

Bro didn't even try on the "wrong" way

[@philliphill8625]

All of a sudden everyone is an expert

[@rileywadlingtoj5995]

Bro’s got the juiciest fero rod ever made

[@dillonoman1674]

Crazy I've never failed doing it the wrong way.

[@joesoutdoorplaces]

There is no wrong way. Though I may not have been entirely clear making that point.

[@fluffy9556]

More confusing then anything else, good job!😂

[@joesoutdoorplaces]

Yes. One of my early short videos. Thanks anyway.