THE RINGS OF POWER Episode 2 Breakdown & Ending Explained - Lord of the Rings Connections & Theories

In this video we take a deep dive into the second episode of Amazon's fantasy epic THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RINGS OF POWER based off the writing of J. R. R. Tolkien. We'll also take a look at its connection to the Peter Jackson films and Tolkien's books.
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[@meatdagod8872]

Review amc new series pantheon

[@JesusAcedo]

Its mithril not jewels

[@perhapsismpodcast]

I noticed this little detail: during the stone breaking contest, notice that Durin cuts each and every stone perfectly in half every time. A nice clean cut, whereas Elrond just seems to shatter his stones. While they are on semi-equal footing in strength, the dwarves are far more precise when it comes to cutting stone.

[@criticitizen8749]

Stands in the life as well, the more precise you can be the easier and faster the job becomes.

[@cejannuzi]

I wondered whatever made Elrond think he could beat him. I guess it was a ploy simply to buy time. Plus he knew it would make Durin feel pleased to have bested him.

[@gholamdapantaloonsniffer8218]

@@cejannuzi I think you answered yourself haha

[@leolow2057]

Is not little details, is fookin big rock that take up almost 40% of the screen so everyone could see that

[@yurikendal4868]

Elrond wass not interested in 'precise stne uctting'. He was going to fail at it so he could spend time with duin. That point seemed to be missed.

[@celestialspartan1176]

The Southlands is Nurn, Mordor’s southern region. When Sauron took over, the people who were residing there became the Dark Lord’s slaves throughout the Second and Third Ages, growing crops to feed Sauron’s legions. So, we already know the fate of those who dwell there in the show.

[@vezeveer]

Maybe start off with a spoilers tag next time. Thank u

[@harvain731]

Well the Southlands for Season 1 is shown to be what eventually will be Gondor, Mordor, Nurn and just east of Mordor. Basically everything South of the Elven Kingdom of Gil-Galad is the "Southlands" just below the Misty Mountains or where Isengard will be. Edit: You can see this on one of the maps as The Southlands has part of the text extending over Gondor.

[@taraevans1108]

@@vezeveer ?? Why are you reading comments on something like this if you aren't interested in theories that rely on the books?

[@tfangel]

I enjoyed this episode more than the first, which felt like it was doing a lot of heavy lifting setting up the world. This one feels more like they are in the groove. Also, i loved the dwarves helmets, just so creepy.

[@jefry8393]

Yeah but my god durin's wife is nightmare fuel

[@jameshill8731]

Don’t listen to the nerd chatter. So far I like this series . First two episodes get a thumbs up .

[@Revellius21]

I think the Stranger is one of the Blue Wizards. Easiest way for them to get a wizard in the story without going straight to Gandalf.

[@ZentColdStoneberserkr]

But I thought they were led into the far east .

[@ryankwon8785]

Sauron is a schemer in the Second Age. He might be planning his time, finding his chess pieces, and identifying potential foes. If Sauron is Halbrand, he might've given up his goals of conquest as he once tried to repent. However, the statement Gil-Galad stated that Galadriel's obsession to hunt down the evil she is hunting might awaken evil itself. Therefore, her conversations with Halbrand (Sauron) might accidentally make him reconsider being the next Dark Lord. Sauron Schemes Theories 1. "Halbrand's" experience in Numenor might help him understand its weaknesses. 2. Adar took over the orc legions in the Southlands. 3. "Halbrand" will confront Adar and shed his disguise. 4. Sauron will use his powers to turn the Southlands into Mordor. - There is a scene in which Galadriel awakens from a village covered in fire and ash. - Sauron might've used his magic to terraform the Southlands into Mordor. 5. Sauron now knows Galadriel is an enemy. 6. He will take note of Celebrimbor's activities and plan his takeover of Numenor. However, I am still convinced that Halbrand is the Witch King, not Sauron. Nazgul Theory 1. Theo's blade might be a Morgul Blade and there are theories that Theo will become a warrior who will later be corrupted into a Nazgul. It is interesting how the powerful civilizations of elves, dwarves, and men gradually diminished during the Second Age. 1. Fall of Numenor 2. Fall of Khazad-Dum

[@XfotisRonaldo]

Halbrand might be Theo's father who disappeared, i dont think hes Sauron but im sure he'll be on his side

[@mbdpodkast3695]

I'd have an issue with this being Gandalf mainly due to the fact that he arrived in the Third Age not the second, although it would be an interesting plot device and maybe they could spin it around, with Gandalf formally arriving as Gandalf the Gray in the Third Age, but in-formally arriving near the Harfoots during the 2nd age, that would also explain his fondness of hobbits.

[@defaultuser9423]

That'd be a cool addition.

[@heathergammache2873]

I think it’s Saruman the gray.

[@harvain731]

The Lord of the Rings Online actually has part of it's Story involving the Second Age with Gandalf in Middle-Earth and helping to fight against Sauron in the guise of an Elf. This is apart of the Minas Morgul Expansion which was added to LOTRO in 2019. He has his memories of this hidden as he was also tortured by Sauron before his defeat & losing the One Ring and he later recovers these memories as apart of the story. While there is no proof to say they used that as inspiration, it wouldn't be the first time Gandalf was in the Second Age in a LOTR Setting.

[@cejannuzi]

So far the character seems more like Tom Bombadil, if Bombadil fell to earth. Bombadil is a sort of opposite of Sauron.

[@harvain731]

@@cejannuzi It would be very odd if it were Tom. Rings of Power is pretty much using Key Characters for key plot points along with their Filler Characters. If it's not Gandalf as the Stranger they basically would be moving away from Characters that are more well known. Why I don't think Tom, the Blue Wizards and so on is who the Stranger will be.

[@slip6hazard9]

Thanks for the breakdown as always dude. Always much appreciated. Also between this and HotD what a great time to be a fan of fantasy am i right 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@marctemura2017]

Great video!⭐👍

[@seawanderer8371]

Galadriel is a dish ❤ I like the hobbits having irish accents. :-)

[@yeoldehotdog306]

Two episodes in; I was initially concerned about this show because the makers didn't really have many rights over the base material. But this is still actually enjoyable. So far the only real kinks are the regular stuff any series has--like some people having some shaky acting sometimes--but that can be overlooked for an enjoyable series so I'm more than willing to see where this goes. It's just really nice to see this world alive again.

[@PureNrGG]

I'm definitely with you on that. Aside from the cookie cutter drama inducing moments that literally make every show worse off... I'm loving this show! Been a long time since I've had a show where the entire season wasn't released all at once!

[@Novusod]

The black sword could also be Angrist the sword of Beorn that cut the Silmaril from Morgoth's crown and then shattered. One of the shards of Angrist ended up lodged in Morgoth's body and was never mentioned again after that.

[@owenywanperoni7939]

No it couldn’t that would be lore! It’s a new new sword the sword that Tolkien never wrote remember?????

[@criticitizen8749]

I just said it on their official YT channel, but I am already addicted to this show. Elrond and Prince Durin, just seeing them made me shed tears. The witty humor is a huge perk as long as they dial it in right (as in good now) and not over the top.

[@andrewdickens7016]

I feel like the man falling is more likely Gandalf than Sauron - although I feel like Sauron will be in this without armour (fingers crossed) Sauron seemed too big in that flash of him. Matey on the boat will be an ancestor of Aragorn maybe even similar an heir to a throne he has abandoned

[@Stevenisbelieven]

Sauron will most likely be shown without armor for most of the series. Remember, he disguised himself for centuries as a peaceful 'gift giver'. Even after they discover who he really is, Sauron deceives them, pretending to be helpful in captivity. Bringing down the Numenoreans with his deceptive ways. Been a long time since I read The Silmarillion, but I think that is how it goes. Anyway, you should see lots of Sauron in human form.

[@jona.scholt4362]

Do the appendices go into detail about Gandalf's arrival? Does the Silmarillion? I haven't read the Silmarillion so I'm curious if that goes into more detail on the arrival of the 5 wizards. Perhaps the series is hamstrung on details about the wizards arrival because of the rights? Just curious, if anyone who reads this knows it would be greatly appreciated!

[@nyctom08]

@kyle It actually makes sense Halbrand is Sauron. What better way for the cunning master manipulator to get close to the elves than befriending the one hunting him? Who would suspect Galadriel's companion is Sauron?

[@defaultuser9423]

I'm not sure but I just have a strong feeling that Sauron would consider the Halbrand body as far beneath him. My money is on the creepy eminem lookalike or someone similar

[@Catterss]

Right? When I look at the 'stars' and symbol carved, it's so close to Gandalf's mark.... Probably just me being a fangirl wishing with my all, that it's Gandalf. :)

[@justinjoudo9575]

I feel like the meteor man is a wizard. Which one ? Don’t really know. There’s a few minor things that I picked up that leads me to suggest it could be Gandalf or radagsst. When he shouts at the little hobbit everything goes dark around him much like when Gandalf yelled at Frodo when he was offered the ring. Also, isn’t the “F” like symbol that he draws which has popped up a few times similar to the symbol Gandalf drew on bilbos door to mark the location for thorins company?

[@Ryan-the-Rocketeer]

Im 99.9% sure that wizard who crash landed is suaron. The impact crater even looks like saurons eye. Everytime he is on screen we here the whispers same when someone wears saurons ring. The tall guy even fits saurons armor perfectly. His magic litteraly kills the fireflies. They couldnt give us more clues without litteraly spelling it out his name, for now he credited as "the stranger".

[@SoutherRebelDoUFunDu]

I agree with Justin. I picked up on that bout the yelling thing. Or back in the fellowship of the ring when Gandolph snapped during the meeting of the what the (9) to destroy the ring. Voice got real deep, it got dark.

[@harvain731]

@@Ryan-the-Rocketeer Doubtful the Stranger is Sauron. There are a good amount of hints why this is. First the Fire: It's not hot to Nori yet burning everything around it, if this was Sauron why would he be worrying about not hurting others. The Stranger using marks are usually looking like an F just extended a bit. If one adds 4 dots around that symbol, that would be the Rune for G which Gandalf uses as his mark at Weathertop to let Frodo & Strider know he had been there. Stranger is interacting with the Ancestors of what will later be known as Hobbits, which is only a Gandalf thing among the Istari. Compared to the hints of Sauron and a big one is the "black goo" which is killing things, actively making them weak, diseased, etc. Then the Stranger which only when he "uses his Powers" that it has an effect on his surroundings. This would line up with the Books to an extent in terms of Gandalf being "weary" after using parts of his Powers and likely the show is taking this a step forward. The Movies showed beings such as Gandalf and Galadriel being "extremely tired/exhausted" after uses of their Powers especially in the Hobbit Movies. The Stranger using their Powers is using of strength from those affected such as himself, the fire flies and the stick that breaks than breaks Nori's dad's leg. Likely this will not be as much of a factor once the Stranger has more of a handle on their Powers and it'll then just "weary" him instead of affecting those around him.

[@refi7976]

The Peoples of Middle Earch says that the blue wizards arrived around 1600 s.a, although other parts say in 1000 third age. So it's possible it's one of the blue wizards.

[@alexilot]

the other clue its Gandalf is that he landed near hobbits salron doesnt really know about hobbits or at least they are of no interest where gandalf loves them and a good way to show that is them helping him when he first comes to middle earth

[@seanstone9078]

It's Gandalf. Not Sauron. Sauron is hot guy on raft. Mystery solved.

[@KPD_KPD]

If he's an istari, why did he bring bad omens with him? Eye-shaped fire, Nori's father injured, and dead fireflies.

[@alexilot]

@@KPD_KPD shock going from a demigod angelic body to a more worldly body not able to control his powers yet

[@m00rtin4]

@@seanstone9078 also thinking like this. iv heard that in the series galadriel will have like a love intrest in the disgused sauron?

[@seanstone9078]

@@m00rtin4 Yes, then their daughter will marry Elrond. And that means Arywn is Sauron's granddaughter.

[@PureNrGG]

My theory is that the stranger is one of the blue wizards. And since they were originally sent there to weaken saurons forces, it would be the perfect timing. I also think he may not be giving them constellations, but the location of saurons forces in the north

[@Gator5000e]

Fabulous recap and breakdowns for both episodes. And thanks for minimal spoilers. I don’t want to know what’s coming. My first thought on the stranger is it was Gandalf but that might be too much fan service. But he could be one of the Maia (spelling?), a similar character to Gandalf. Sauron and Gandalf might be too obvious. It’s taking me a while,to warm up to Galadriel, warrior elf, cause she was so worldly and calm in the main LOTR films and books (from what I recall). But that wisdom and calmness could have been developed over the thousands of years she’s been around. But again, why didn’t she fight in the movies or books. But so far really enjoying the show. Wish I could binge it but oh well.

[@intoxikent1]

The shiney dearf thing is the arken stone from the hobit. The sword is what will become one of the dark blades that stabbed froto.

[@joshuamcmullen9362]

It could also be the Nauglafring.

[@m00rtin4]

was thinking about the White Gems of Lasgalen but i did look it up and its not from the books. tho i guess this series can be inspired by peter jacksons work aswell. why i thought ot those gems is that it explains alot from the movies why elves hate dwarfs or vice versa. im prob all wrong on this. please dont offend my initial thought from a tolkien pleb!

[@saixistheboss2794]

Shouldn't be, In the first Hobbit Thror found that in Erebor. Doesn't line up with the lore.

[@brendapuga6926]

I think it's going to be Mithril. Gandalf says in lotr movie that the wealth of moria was not jewls or gold but mithril.

[@gerrykomalaysia2]

Great show so far

[@DaVeO52]

The mystery of The Stranger is really intriguing me. Sauron? (I don't think it is) Gandalf? (may be too obvious but would thrill me anyhow), Saruman? (first of the Isatri to arrive?), Radagast or one of two Blue Wizards(from the appendencies)? I LOVE not knowing but I want to know soon! I think the orcs were digging with their claws, they may have even been created just for that purpose with elongated nail/claws. I like a show that doesn't feel the need to answer all questions in the same ep they pose them. We have the time. Let us wonder a bit. It MAY just be a morgul blade, but most weapons of magic have some sort of significant history to it so I'm hoping it's more. Loved the introduction of Prince Durin's family.

[@2fast4u_rms]

I like it so far. The stranger is prob Gandalf. i dont know if i remember correctly but i think a lot of people in middle earth dont know who the Hobbits are. Gandalf was one of the few who knew the location of the Shire and was in regular contact with them. The show wil tel us that he was an alley of the Hobbits since the begining.

[@seralizejonck7073]

@@Ryan-the-Rocketeer I'm 100% sure Sauron is already in ME and never left.

[@_robustus_]

The Stranger is Gandalf. Sauron is adrift with Galadriel.

[@Ryan-the-Rocketeer]

Im 99.9% sure that wizard who crash landed is suaron. The impact crater even looks like saurons eye. Everytime he is on screen we here the whispers same when someone wears saurons ring. The tall guy even fits saurons armor perfectly. His magic litteraly kills the fireflies. They couldnt give us more clues without litteraly spelling it out his name, for now he credited as "the stranger".

[@olesideburns]

After more rewatches there are several callbacks/flashbacks to Nori touching the stranger. We are supposed to get that something at that moment was connected or shared. Some of the strangers power may have been transferred and this is is part of their connection. The "if any thing bad happens" also suggest "next 3 seasons" which I believe this series is expected to have 4 seasons. I think this is foretelling also that "blame" of helping the stranger. There is a repeated idea of "can you be blamed for helping the enemy". This comes up later with Galadriel and Theo again. I think the Hilt also shows that blood can make indestructible metal. Which may come in handy when trying to make an indestructible ring. And Adar tells us later "only blood can bind".

[@ztuzar163]

So cool they had the mouth of sauron on the float !

[@rhettmitchell9792]

This my favorite.

[@mordinchemist]

I think the stranger is a Maiar, but could easily also be a different wizard instead of Gandalf (Saruman, Radagast, one of the blue wizards). It makes more sense since Sauron never left ME and had no reason to arrive via comet whereas a wizard would need to arrive in some way. Also they may be do the whole: appears foul, but feels fair thing.

[@w0mblemania]

The wizards were supposed to arrive in Middle Earth over a thousand years after the events of this show.

[@AirForceKrissy]

The stranger isn’t any of them, just wait and see

[@user-eh7mf7rf8k]

Why noone wonders: HOW a man from the far south (far away from the burned village) used a small ship and then a boat to reach Galandriel in the other side if the world....

[@jambetter]

Gandalf didn’t come to middle earth until after the rings of power were made

[@anasalwash]

at 6:07 isn't that the same symbol that Gandalf etched on Bibo's door?

[@Tanyap2010]

My guess is that the object in the chest is mithriel. Also, the man from the sky might be Galdalf, but that seems too obvious. Maybe another wizard was flung out by the Maiar. Almost like an angel expelled from Heaven. This would be a new character.

[@nygreenguy]

Maybe it's just Radagast? Lol.

[@venielbretana8240]

at fist i though people were just overthinking him being sauron but now i remember sauron is supposed to trick the 3 races to forging and using the rings. this is the way he could trick them

[@ab3000x]

at 12:35 you can see that the edge of the blade has been knapped. The blade appears to be obsidian.

[@seralizejonck7073]

Halbrand looks way too much like Aragon's ancestor, and I don't think the producers did that on purpose. Also, there were wizards in the 2nd age known as Blue Wizards. Sauron will be taking form as Annatar, "Lord of Gifts" and trick the elves into forging the rings (in the guide to middle earth he is described as probably of the Eldar elves). Not sure if the character is already in the background of the series and if the producers will be changing this storyline. Olórin is Gandalf's original name, and he was one of the oldest Istari, however, the 2 wizards who made an appearance in the 2nd age would've been Alatar and Pallando. Could the stranger be Tom Bombadil? And it is definitely possible for Legolas to make an appearance, right? And where is Celeborn?!?

[@harvain731]

Legolas not very likely. He isn't given a proper date for his birth but he seems firmly as a Third Age character.

[@josephe2955]

Perhaps it is Tom Bombadil, he is such an enigmatic character anyways. But most likely a wizard of some sort.

[@robcousins231]

I think the stranger is Glorfindel. The mighty elf who died in the first age but the Valar sent his spirt to Valinor as a reward for his service and then sent him back in the 2nd age to ME around the time where the series is set. And he was given Maia powers. it was Glorfindel remember who saved Frodo in LOTR in the 3rd Age from the Nazgûl after Frodo had been struck with the Morgal blade. he took on the Nazgûl (Not Arwen as the movie shows) and Glorfindel has special healing powers and he heals Frodo. Maybe he heals Nori’s dad….lets see.

[@daedaluscenter2825]

it's a nice program why people don't like it I don't understand it has everything I like and looks great why can't people just like a good program? it's just for fun, not real life

[@daedaluscenter2825]

@M W so why watch it

[@vvade9789]

@M W It’s hilarious how i keep seeing your tears all over these comment sections.

[@dgraves22]

So they’ve played this down, but The Rings of Power is not actually connected to the Peter Jackson LotR films. We’re not seeing the Second Age of Jackson’s Middle Earth; this is a wholly new adaptation of Tolkien and isn’t set in the same universe.

[@HeadshotGamer09]

Thank you for the breakdown!

[@tarth8086]

The Harfoots commented that the stranger does NOT look handsome. I think this line is not just for fun but hinting it's not Sauron.

[@physicallymentallyemotiona6490]

That is so Gandalf, that is the mark be puts on Bulbous door, I thought that when I saw him fall from the sky.

[@markwelch3989]

I’m pretty sure the symbol from the comet man both in the book and in the constellation is the same symbol that Gandalf scratched on Bilbos door the night he met with the dwarves in”Fellowship …”.

[@lifeisshorts2115]

I think what's inside the box is the gem Arkenstone that the dragon Smaug guarded, but I could be wrong...

[@VThePR]

In King Durin III chest is "The Kings Jewel" The Arkenstone one of the Kings most valued possessions. The story about the stone is mentioned in the movie "The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug" as it is greed of the stone that brought down the dwarfs kingdom

[@joshyoung4382]

I took the glowing orb to be something similar to the heart of the mountain that Smaug had.

[@edwardlee9845]

The jewel in the mountain is the heart of that mountain. The broken sword handle is the Sauron character Theo will be Sauron. He will be tricked into becoming Sauron. And the elven king is controlled by whispers to help create the rings of power

[@TylerPKegger]

Can you cover the Patient, it’s on Hulu and stars Steve Carol, and each episode is about 23 minutes long

[@Artyom07]

The "jewel" with glowing silvery shine is Mithril

[@joew8438]

I suspect the stranger is Gandalf. Moths, Hobbits, precognition, Valor of Sky, lots of parallels with Gandalf. I would say Sauron is one and the same Celebrimbore if not for all the lore indicating they are two characters. We will have to watch for a collaborator to show up, the collaborator will be Sauron. The man on the raft may be Elendir or an ancestor of the Numenorian. He appears to embody the "always hope" trope, so the writers are saying he is Elendir or an ancestor. I figure the boy Theo may be on his way to playing a large part in the story, but he's also bound to Morgoth now. Maybe he's destined to be one of the 9.

[@paulrhome6164]

She was using the constellation for both navigation and probably reassurance. The constellations, and that one in particular, are sacred to the Elves. It was put in place in the far North to mark Melkor's location and serve as warning to him. The moment these constellations were created was when the elves woke for the first time, and Varda, who made them, is the Elves' favorite Valar. This I think is a perfect example of how they are able to make reference to things in the Silmarillion that actual open-minded fans can enjoy without actually stating them and being sued. To me, they're doing a great job of walking that line.

[@stargirl7646]

The Dwarven item could maybe be the Arkenstone? Especially given it glows

[@Artyom07]

Mithril glows as well. Just saying :)

[@longvu0501]

I noticed the "F" looking symbol is the same as Gandalf's mark on Bilbo's door in The Unexpected Journey.

[@TalentCaldwell]

Wow the production value is so incredibly cinematic in this show. I really don’t get why some of the STAR WARS shows look so low budget and small by comparison to this and GOT: HOTD.

[@johnmichaelson9173]

I'm glad I read your comment I'm not a big Star Wars fan in the sense that I haven't watched any of the later films but I started to watch the Obi-Wan Kenobi series & I was shocked how cheap & tacky it looked.

[@iamjedduh]

The broken blade is a morgul blade, similar to the one that stabbed frodo. Furthermore the nazgul or ringwraiths were once kings of men. So halbrand and Theo becoming a nazgul is out of the question. Seriously, read the books especially The silmarillion since THAT should be the correct source material for this show

[@avenzam]

Seriously, read what source was used and CAN be used for this show, not what "should" have happened. :)

[@crichtonbruce4329]

I think it's quite obvious by now that those behind Rings of Power have no problem ignoring the source material, or re-writing it into wholly new conceptions, many very contrary to what Tolkien created. You could very likely be correct though that the sword is a Morgul blade or something akin to one. Perhaps Sauron's own sword that got broken at the end of the First Age?

[@avenzam]

@@crichtonbruce4329 as you had time to read Tolkien's work, you should find time to read at least one article on WHY they can only use the LotR books. Don't be a sheep and just spew out hateful comments, the show is pretty great, considering the restrictions they have/had.

[@stargirl7646]

The blade could be a Morgol blade? If it breaks easily and magically maybe it can reform easily too

[@marvint.9872]

I think that’s the arkenstone that is inside the dwarfs chest

[@ZentColdStoneberserkr]

Thank you for the plain and simple breakdown without all the berating of the series. A whole lot of cry babies on KZbin these days because they didn't get what they're kicking and screaming little asses wanted.

[@stargirl7646]

Aww man, if the Southlands are Mordor that’s so sad. They’re so pretty right now!

[@gillandalearts3041]

That thing that makes me believe the strange man is Gandalf is that in Hobbits and LotR gandalf would sometimes show how much he knows about hobbits and his love and trust in them exceeds any interest he has shown on other kinds. And it will makes sence if he was once saved by the kind where hobbits came from.

[@milestrombley1466]

Gandalf the Homeless Man from Outer Space. 🤣🤣🤣

[@joab757]

Despite all the negative going into this, I don’t hate it at all.

[@paulrhome6164]

Much like I think it's not Gandalf because they're trying so hard to make it seem like it's Gandalf, I think they might be trying to misdirect us by thinking the dwarves are hiding mithril, when actually it's a Silmaril (that, or Marcellus Wallace's soul).

[@odoacredacalcutta5085]

I find funny how everyone is trying to make up what's what basing their assumptions on tolkien's material when it's very clear that this show don't really follow it all. Ok, we know it's Celembrimbor who's going to create the 9 rings but for the rest... anything might happen.

[@scottduncan5525]

maybe the guy on the boat is actually saron, the bag on his neck looks similar to the Saron in the Fire, plus he came from the town that was destroyed. or the Sword itself is Saron

[@anjaschreglmann6027]

SAURON

[@nathanoney4919]

what if think the guy on the boat is definitly saron OR BOAT OS SARON!

[@guitarninjarick8179]

Thinking the stranger is either Gandalf or Sauron. Definitely a white wizard.

[@heathergammache2873]

Saruman the gray

[@guitarninjarick8179]

@@heathergammache2873 Yeah always mix those up, shouldn't have made the names so similar, lol

[@granthemenway9806]

Please do The Resort on Peacock

[@marcofava]

Honestly I don't see where all the hate is with this show, the ambiance feels like middle earth, the acting is so far decent, pacing could use a bit of work but again it's the first two episodes of a Tolkien inspired Epic, I mean of course we'd get some whiplash getting thrown from place to ace to set up all the various stories. Other than that the elephant in the room, the so called "forced" diversity in the show does not seem as bad as many make it out to be, I read both the Hobbit and The Lord of The Rings almost ten years ago and Honestly I don't remember it anywhere said that everyone was supposed to be white or a certain ethnicity but that's just me. Another part of the criticism saying they've gone woke and all that stuff and again I personally did not see it, do far the most fleshed out character is Galadriel and I'm invested in her story, some say she's a Mary Sue a la Rey from star wars but why? I mean she's spent centuries fighting and training so I don't see a problem there, she's bossed around a little bit but never because she's a woman just because she's stubborn and insubordinate which as far as we've seen (regardless of her being right or wrong) is true so yeah. All in all I'm enjoying it so far.

[@bertellijustin6376]

Yes and no. Elves are actually described as being “fair” in the sense of paleness first and beauty only second. The only two physical traits seen to seperate the elvish tribes was their hair and eye colors with the emphasis on their hair. Elf literally means “white one” when translated and Eldar also literally means pale. So we do have canonic descriptions of elves, what would probably surprise more people is that the main differences between elves and men physically wasn’t their ears…..elves only had a slightly “elvish” ear according to Tolkien and men could easily be mistaken for elves if they were too fair or ethereal in build. “Diversity” among the human races makes sense. Humans like to travel in the real world and in tolkiens world. Makes sense you’d see “eastern” men and other non-Anglo races if maybe in smaller numbers. Dwarves now, that’s a tough one. It’s never mentioned how their skin looks, but we do know there were at least two of the seven/eight clans that came from the east. And we know the eastern men didn’t necessarily look like the western men, which is keeping with ME essentially being “European”. It could make sense for those clans to look differently from the clans to the west. Now the problem here is that every clan is descended from a father and mother dwarf except for Durin the Deathless’ own clan. I assume he married a daughter of one of the other six “founding pairs”. So they could be a mix of western and eastern dwarves perhaps, BUT this would mean the whole clan would be “biracial” as opposed to individuals being pure black or white. Also for me a big one, the lack of bearded female dwarves is just silly. Dwarves are born bearded and when seen by other races were difficult to tell apart. And if a dwarf lost their beard they could “die from shame”, It’s as annoying and as “unrealistic” (in the logic of the fictional universe) as “knights” wearing opened face helms in every medieval movie so we can see the actors face. Annoying, not a deal breaker but it takes me out of the moment when I see it. As for Galadriel, her powers were always primarily in the realm of magic. And elves don’t generally wear plate armor in any of tolkiens works, with most armor being described as chain or mail of one type or another. But again artistic license here has been seen since Peter Jackson’s movies. Lots of plate armor to be seen through out. But Tolkien did loosely base the “tech” of ME off of our own medieval period, so that would reinforce the mail and scale over plate armor again. Anyway, as for Galadriel being a warrior of sword and plate, that seems unlikely as magic was what she was always known for, she fought a lot during the second age yes, but we never see it said she wore a full suit of armor and got into melees. More like she nukes evil with her awesome powers as the oldest Elf on middle earth. She isn’t a young impulsive elf by the time of this series. She’s a mother, a wife and a powerful magic user. Which they completely seem to have forgotten making this series. They should have created a new character to be a bad ass swordswoman a la Tuariel, instead of shoehorning the most powerful magic user on middle earth into lowly man at arms, skilled but still just a man at arms like any other.

[@bertellijustin6376]

I did forget the 8th clan, which is a mix of all of the evil dwarves from the other 7 clans but I think they were mostly wiped out by the elves by this point in the history.

[@henryenyokwa]

A good show!!!

[@cornpop838]

The shiny object in the chest is definitely mithril

[@cornpop838]

@@Scandalous4Eva my man they never found that till long after this series takes place

[@sageartchannel3363]

No I thought so too but then Gandalf comes to M Earth later at the 3rd Middlr age

[@lordjunk5847]

So do the dwarves have the white gems of lasgalen or is that too early?

[@weliveinasociety1931]

Why was Khazad-Dum North to Eregion while it is supposed to be south. Where was the Mirrormere?

[@madebymagnets]

The stone looks like the heart of the mountain? "They dug too deep", and the foreshadowing of singing to the stones...where to dig, where not to. Maybe this is where they took too much.

[@mr.fancypants666]

When you cook them,they're escargot. Eat them raw..they're snails..bugs,they're eating bugs.

[@wolfbane7497]

I don't get why it's a forbidden Love between an elf and a human when ELROND AND HIS BROTHER ELROS THE KING OF PUCKING . NUMENOR THE FIRST KING ELROND TWIN BROTHER WERE HALF HUMAN HALF ELF. AND THEIR MOTHER WAS HUMAN I DON'T GET WHY THIS IS FORBIDDEN. AND ELROND IS A HIGH UPSTANDING MEMBER OF SOCIETY AND HIS TWIN HE WAS THE FIRST KING OF NUMENOR SO WHY IS THIS FORBIDDEN !!!!! I would understand if people were treated him poorly but they treat him well. Gilgalad even makes him his heir so were these people talking about a forbidden Love. Túrin a thousand years ago was permitted to live among the elves. And he was human and married an elf and his son a is a literal star. Flying in the sky who is half elf half human and is one of their patron deities so I don't get what's the problem.

[@hiro.ocampo]

that black goo was actually VENOM himself, Sauron is the cousin of Knull. lol

[@georgemcdaniel4654]

I like in the trailers hagrid have harry Hi sword and said you're a wazered now. The meteor man came flying on his broom stick and said I'll get you my pretty and you're little dog to.

[@wolfbane7497]

Rings of power more fanfiction for me to make in a video

[@madbyinstinct]

Nitpicking here, but that kazadum shout was an unintentionally funny flop imo 🤣

[@moomoodeadcow]

A bar/tavern is the worst place to disclose ominous news.

[@jefry8393]

I kinda ship galadriel n halbrand Loved that deep oceon rescue scene

[@cwaltzmusic]

Halbrand can't become one of the Nazgul because they're made of up of Kings who took the rings from Sauron and he doesn't seem like he's a king nor do I think he's Sauron. I don't think the man who fell from the sky is Sauron either as he'd have a dark presence and would know who he is plus Sauron wouldn't look so grungy.

[@IlluviumGaming]

I mean, given how long it took to make the rings, it's impossible for any living man to become one of the Nazgul, but who's to say Halbrand won't become a king in the future? Especially with foreshadowing from the conversation from Galadriel asking if it was the king's symbol, him saying his lands have no king, and him also being from the same region Arondir is in where a kid talks about their king returning. It's certainly possible these are all red herrings but assuming we disregard the significant passing of time (which the show MUST do for the Harfoots to have any significance at all), there's no reason Halbrand can't become a king and then a Nazgul.

[@heathergammache2873]

@@IlluviumGaming ahh maybe this is the future witch king

[@arnfdeno]

I wonder if Theo is a human/elf hybrid and Arondir is his father. Notice that Theo’s hairdo hides his ears, this seems very much intentional.

[@Ryan-the-Rocketeer]

Im 99.9% sure that wizard who crash landed is suaron. The impact crater even looks like saurons eye. Everytime he is on screen we here the whispers same when someone wears saurons ring. The tall guy even fits saurons armor perfectly. His magic litteraly kills the fireflies. They couldnt give us more clues without litteraly spelling it out his name, for now he credited as "the stranger".

[@seralizejonck7073]

Sauron is already in Middle earth and according to the lore he will deceive the elf by looking like an elf

[@Ryan-the-Rocketeer]

@@seralizejonck7073 In the Second Age of Tolkien’s lore, he appears as Annatar, a shapeshifter, so the villain could be introduced in any form.

[@XSFx5]

I bet the item in the dwarven chest that King Durin III is so possessive about is the Arkenstone Stone. What do the rest of y'all think?

[@SageOfHeaven]

The nazghul were kings of men. Bit early to call on them yet.

[@faith9338]

Manuwe is the Valar of air and wind…

[@nikolaris2636]

Little in this series has anything to do with Tolkien.... But the dwarves found MITHRIL...

[@nicolasalmendrez3840]

i believe the stranger is one of the blue wizards

[@mOnStErSonfilm]

take a shot every time he says "made for the show"

[@thedashboard9562]

I'm guessing that The Stranger is going to be Saruman. Doesn't he show up on Middle Earth before Gandalf does?

[@w0mblemania]

He shows up over 1000 years later than the events of this show.

[@heathergammache2873]

I agree! I think it’s Saruman as well! Saruman the gray.

[@MasterMcCubbin]

My guess is Theo is the mouth of Sauron.

[@defaultuser9423]

Too early. The Mouth was a few hundred years old at best.

[@Blade-Thing]

The meteor was not the istari..why would the valar send theur vassals to middle earth in such a manner..

[@miguelturner7824]

$5 says the stranger is Tom Bombadil.

[@fig1115]

now that would be cool

[@compareandcontrast9833]

He's to tall to be Tom.

[@MacLaren_100]

I believe the sword is the sword of the witch king of angmar

[@MELODYMUNRO]

I think the stranger is more likely someone evil because all the fire flies died. I dont think that would have happened were he Gandalf or a good wizard.

[@pauldornbusch6408]

The English use the word wyrm for dragon(for some)

[@michaela.ouellette5446]

He Becomes, "The High WITCH" of the "NAZ'GOUL"‼️‼️‼️🧐🤔🤨👍

[@F4R4D4Y]

The Stranger is a Blue Wizard