The Rise and Fall of Bloody Roar

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Bloody Roar is so sick! Hear the tragic tale of its cruel demise at the hands of Konami and consumers alike!
This is a fairly surface-level analysis of competitive viability and mechanics throughout the series' lifespan. I fully cop to the fact that I don't know everything - there isn't a ton of info already because the series never reached the heights of Street Fighter, but it had so much potential.
So join me in remembering Bloody Roar - and if you'd like to help support the show, here's the link to my Patreon page: www.patreon.co...
**I've been hearing some frustrated people mention they don't like me implying that the competitive potential of the series is nonexistent. Apologies - just assumed it was self-evident. The "most" competitively viable things aren't always the things that become competitive - the point was more that Bloody Roar has fans, and even people who are interested in the scene, but the scene is small. It's not going to be a money game, you know? I'll try to be less loose with that kind of thing in the future. If you're into it, more power to you. As it stands, it's my understanding that Japanese copies of the Xtreme games are the most viable, which would mean lower potential access and therefore lower mass-success.
Sources:
This thread comprises a lot of the early competitive talk on the games forums.shoryuk...
I pulled clips from a couple of tournament matches uploaded to the site • Bloody Roar 2: Oga Tat...
• Bloody Roar 2 (Japan) ...
Lastly, though not featured in the video footage, Jerimiah Isaiah is the current champion of Bloody Roar content on the website / jerimiahisaiah
Hey I just did Dead Space! • The Rise and Fall of D...

[@ryanbelt1]

"If you like it you're probably 30" how dare you call me out so thoroughly

[@akeemmcafee4556]

29 😭😭😭

[@ابوالريش-ل8ب]

٢٦

[@Kelztherealest]

Bruh... how did he know

[@melvininman3756]

I feel so attacked lol

[@RENZEENO]

His a mind reader...

[@cgoode1201]

This game is always going to hold a special place in my heart, because my then-girlfriend, now-fiancee and I bonded over it. It was briefly after discussing our mutual love of gaming that she mentioned she was a huge fan of this fighting-game that I had never heard of, and one of our first dates was at her place, battling back and forth while I internally thought that I'd 'take it easy on her' before she subsequently wiped the floor with me, only to find out later that she'd been thinking the exact same thing. Then when I 'got serious', she proceeded to wipe the floor with me yet again.

[@Grimmegami]

C Goode You are one lucky man

[@franji4998]

Lucky BR fellow and beautiful story!

[@mateox1364]

That's actually dope

[@fokkusuh4425]

Shit that didn't happen

[@solonsaturngaming3727]

C Goode either or you’d got floored lol but thats a good story.

[@edgelord8337]

Konami forgetting and or destroying another one of their franchises? Castle vania: *first time?* Metal gear: *first time?* Bomberman: *first time?*

[@ubermaster1]

Silent Hill: *ugly crying*

[@jamescallahan2258]

Yugioh: *motorcycle vrooming noises*

[@the13thjoker]

Contra ? Suikoden ?

[@malcocanedo9061]

To be fair, i think Bloody Roar should be saying it. The series ended 15 years ago.

[@ChrisX_212]

Nah. Bloody Roar was the first who asked. It was destroyed before they went crazy. PS2 era, folks! When Metal Gear was still basking in the glory that is Snake Eater!

[@LunaticGunstar]

"If this sounds good to you, you're probably 30." Well, I certainly feel called out...

[@moonyekka]

Same

[@DeadMouseis]

47 here :)

[@dimondblade]

yep me too

[@Shadowkarnage]

29 almost 30 aha

[@3DbeautyLove]

Im 25 and im a big fan so idk

[@JMorrall89]

Ah Shenlong, lesser known member of the "Dont go near them when their backs is turned" beat em up crew.

[@Ramsey276one]

Tetsuzankou!

[@JMorrall89]

@@Ramsey276one I always remember that "hussah" noise he made with the little flick kick

[@QuantemDeconstructor]

their Beast Drive walk is the scariest thing in the game even though Chronos can drain meter on his Beast Drive grab

[@JMorrall89]

@@QuantemDeconstructor What that ominous af *Stomp* *Stomp* *Stomp* *BOOM* lol

[@QuantemDeconstructor]

@@JMorrall89 yeah, that shit's terrifying

[@MegadeathAdams]

Bloody Roar Primal Fury is one of THE games that wholeheartedly embraced the "early 2000's" vibes; Over-the-top guitar shredding, unrealistically vivid fashion sense (and an explosion of color in general) and an emphasis on style over substance. I personally like to think of this as the SSX Tricky of fighting games. Good times.

[@gamingntea]

Andrew Darkside Thing is, it had plenty substance, though

[@MegadeathAdams]

@@gamingntea I'm not saying it didn't, unlocking all the cheats for example was super fun. But it's clear where most of the effort went into, which in this case was presentation.

[@calemr]

I Still love to break it out from time to time.

[@gamingntea]

@@MegadeathAdams I'm inclined to disagree with that, actually. In fact, I'm in complete agreement with KBash here about the GLARING presentation issues Bloody Roar has, on top of others. (No training mode for BR2? SERIOUS presentation flaw there.) What I meant was that the mechanics of 2,3 & Extreme for the GC have gotten a MASSIVELY unfair dismissal over the years.

[@freedomsykes7457]

dude yes

[@0NotreMan0]

Saw Bloody Roar and had to click.

[@Ramsey276one]

Same

[@rashaadlawson4537]

Ditto.

[@TreyDobe]

The Bloody Roar series were my jam back in the day, Shenlong and Yugo main represent!

[@joemama202890]

same

[@joemama202890]

@GamerCalledBen i feel you. i miss the good old days

[@crencottrell7849]

Such an underrated series. Wish they had a game that featured ALL the characters from the series, with new costume colors and cutscenes 😞

[@RealCoachMustafa]

I rarely bought stuff when I Was a kid because I was afraid of wasting my money on a game that I wouldn't like because my dad couldn't regularly give me an allowance, but when I bought Bloody Roar 2, I never regretted it. It was so fun.

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

I ended up not buying it for some reasons, but I had a demo version, and it was the coolest thing I ever played

[@RealCoachMustafa]

@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 I had the demo too, that's why I bought the game. I got tired of only playing the same two characters

[@davidslaughter8806]

This is one that desperately needs a come-back

[@CarlosRoyalTiger]

I love the Bloody Roar 2 art style, so Alice "looking like a MegaMan character" isn't a bad thing for me.

[@SuperflyMiceguy]

Jesus Christ the animations of the fighters in both their human and animal forms in these games are really flippin' smooth, especially the first two for PS1 standards, like, Holy heck!

[@dankshark1226]

Was thinking about this series like 2 days ago and papa KBash comes through.

[@raulrojas9253]

same I was talking with a friend on the phone and he brought bloody roar 2 on the conversation, we talked for like 30 mins about Bloody roar 2

[@landoncore92]

Same!

[@bennyballs22]

Me too! Weird

[@Nightmare26]

Yes! I’ve been listening to the Bloody Roar 2 OST for a few days now after talking about great character select themes.

[@Zyxrox0]

Butterfly effect is real mang

[@ccg2301]

This and Capcoms Darkstalkers should really make a comeback, and with the recent mention of adding one of a beloved character from an old capcom FG franchise into SFV. There is a glimpse of hope of whats to come in the future.

[@DragoonCenten]

Darkstalkers is forever relegated to guest appearance and fapbait duty.

[@ubergamer2010]

Bloody Darkstalkers would be the crossover of the century

[@jamesdreamer5833]

Capcom recently renewed their license for Darkstalkers so we may see something from them in the future

[@garuelx8627]

@@jamesdreamer5833 plz don't give me hope, I got burned badly since Resurrection's empty promise...

[@SupremeEspio]

Hell Killer Instinct and Samurai Showdown made a comeback so its possible, but thing is...the people behind those projects had a passion to make it happen. Idk if Capcom has that drive for Darstalkers. I have no hope for Bloody Roar though😓😓

[@HyperbeastTV]

A lot of the claims of balance issues coming from the old SRK threads are way overblown the games actually have pretty good balance, especially the updated Japanese version of Extreme. BR4 was a complete mess though not just balance wise but it was clearly an unfinished game with many bugs that made it borderline unplayable.

[@ultrawillpower2737]

It’s too bad the series as a whole never fully got the recognition it deserves. Okay yes, the series left on a sour note with 4, but the games between BR2 and Extreme were the peak mechanics-wise, even if they had their negatives as the video describes. Yet Extreme is so far polished mechanic-wise, that it deserves a spot at Combo Breaker, if EVO isn’t gonna provide that opportunity (and now they won’t since EVO is essentially dead for good).

[@JAR2388]

4 is whack AF, fuck the walls

[@ultrawillpower2737]

JAR2388 Same with its health bar, it’s unbalanced AF

[@QuantemDeconstructor]

fun fact, at least in US/PAL PF/Extreme Stun's walk speed in Hyper is so fast that he can back walk out of pressure strings

[@McCreepeh]

Yeah the bugs on BR4 were too damn much

[@FantasyWriter162]

Still got my copy of Bloody Roar for the Gamecube; gods, I loved this game.

[@redrazorx-23]

Played it yesterday

[@GELTONZ]

I love how you think the FGC didn't play it because there was something wrong with it. No, the FGC was just the Capcom Fanboy Club back when this game came out. Eighting wasn't a known fighting game company so they never really gave the game much of a chance outside of 3 due to it being such an early PS2 release. Sorry but I remember arguing in favor of these games back when they were new and it was all wall to wall hypocrisy. It WAS refreshing hearing you go into a bit more detail as to what was wrong with the games though you gloss over or miss a few things (Hyper Beast being new to the home version of BR1, side stepping is a home version exclusive option for BR1, you can switch to hand drawn portraits for BR1, pretty sure you can combo into beast in BR1 just like in 2, tons of unlockables for BR2, BR2 being a high-res PS1 game, BR4's massive slowdown issues). That said, I could have never covered the complaints you have with the games as far too often people just say "I want Bloody Roar to come back but like...better! Like make it good so it can stand up to current games!" and my usual response is "...but Bloody Roar is better than current fighting games". I stand by that statement too, I'd rather play Bloody Roar 1 than any 3D fighter currently on the market. Erm...worth mentioning that I hate how Tekken controls. Left Punch/Right Punch does NOT make ANY sense to me and I've tried for years. I just find Tekken stiff, clunky, unnatural, and confusing. So taking Tekken out of the picture we have...what...DOA and Soul Calibur? DOA5 was good at least (fuck 6) but I'd still rather play any Bloody Roar game except 4. Bloody Roar is just faster, flashier, with a nice big movelist, and wonderful quarter circle inputs that makes it feel like a good blend of 2D and 3D fighters though leaning more towards 3D (while Rival Schools is quite similar in its blend but leans more towards 2D). Soul Calibur...just...makes me sad. That poor series. Call me when they stop cutting content and calling it a sequel. Really 3D fighters are in a depressingly bad place right now. As for Bloody Roar 4, I think what happened was Konami rushed it. It came out REALLY shortly after Konami bought Hudson so I suspect the game was most of the way through development and Konami just said "Shit it and get it out of here, we're done with this". I hear the Japanese version is slightly better. Glad to hear someone say something sorta nice about Nagi though. I like her and am really intrigued by her story and personality (she's weirdly nice for an angry looking leather clad biker chick and is her moaning in beast mode just the bad dub or does turning into a half finished duplicate of the Unborn cause pain to turn into pleasure for her?).

[@conradojavier7547]

We need an Evo Alternative where a Franchise like Bloody Roar can stand on it's own.

[@carlosaugusto9821]

The first Evo was in 2002, and just confirming what was said, it was basically an initiative to expand the Capcom fg legacy: they played St and 3s, that were old games, and Mvc2 and Cvs2 that were two new games for the time. Evo was created by hardcore capcucks important in the community, and it took a while for it to be willing and open to many 3d fg's - the guys that ruined Capcom's fg supremacy in the 90s. And even more to other 2d fg's - of course "direct enemies" of Capcom. Hence the low regard for Guilty Gear in the 00s, despite the fact it was a technical wonder superior to Capcom fg's and it was THE 2d highlight of that decade, and that must have filled the capcucks with jealously because Capcom's fg division completely collapsed at the same time. So they rather stuck to St and 3s, old games, than give wholehearted full support to GG, which was keeping the 2d fg's alive with a technical competence on par with Capcom. Their bias didnt let them promote GG like the star of the events - its deserving place since it was the hot new 2d fg of the time (and if we discard recycled work, Capcom never delivered a mostly fresh fg since the mid 90s). The jealous fanboys also refused to aknowledge the return of Snk in good form with Kof Xi in 2005. They turned their faces away from Snk in the 90s like they were guard dogs of Capcom, so im aware it would have been very difficult for them to aknowledge some relevance to "Capcom's old enemy" at that time. The proud capcucks stuck to promoting their old dead (commercially) 2d fg's as the Evo main titles rather than the 2d and 3d hot news of the time.

[@carlosaugusto9821]

Now in that whole situation, with a hardheaded Evo staff that refused to move on and accept that the 00s doesnt belong to Capcom, and preferred to continue worshipping old fg's rather than giving honest support to whatever new good 3d and 2d fg of the time, what the hell could you except of their possible judgement about freaking Bloody Roar?

[@amalfi5000]

We need Bloody Roar brought back and made into a comeback. I'm bored of Street Fighter, Tekken & Mortal Kombat getting so much popularity. This series has so much potential and 4 fell into tragedy. Just wonder how this series can be made into a reboot? We need a lot of animals not just on land, but also from air & sea! Have a real human join the roster, who's a hunter/huntress of zoanthropes where the fighter actually calls on a battlesuit to battle zoans in their animal forms.

[@dreamcastdazia4753]

No we don't need bloody roar back. Why are you borde of the fighting game big 3? And also why tf are you acting like there aren't other fighting games that release and other older but still popular fighting games around to play? Like Skull Girls, Guilty Gear, Dragon Ball FighterZ, Injustice, Blaze Blue, Gran Blue Fantasy vs, Them fighting herds which is brand new based off of MLP:FIM, Smash Bros the list goes on. Oh and DOA, Soul Calibur are still alive. The only dead fighting game franchises that need to make a return are Virtua Fighter and Killer Instinct. Bloody Roar is cool but it can stay dead and niche. We have too much to play with already!

[@corpsedesecrator2612]

What is the logic in that? You just said you’d want VF and KI to make a return yet you say there is too much fighting games to play as an excuse for BR not to make a return in spite of saying its a kool game contrast to something rubbish like Shaq Fu or something none of us are asking for. Imo you can never have too much fighting games I would like SNK to bring back Fatal Fury and AOF as its separate continuity from KOF be it a remaster/reboot or long awaited sequel to where they left off, same goes with Bloody Roar I’m in favor of it’s return one day, KI I’m sure is still a thing from KI3 coming out 2013 they’ll drop a new one I’m sure. I'd want VF to comeback and actually have a story this time outside the manual.

[@corpsedesecrator2612]

I mean I think KI is still a thing they made the last game in 2013 one of the first games on Xbox One so I’m sure there is room for a future installment people including myself still play KI3 and you got to remember KI2 last came out on N64 mid 90s so KI3 is a BIG comeback thats still living its glory imo, plus when you look at it Capcom takes a while to make SF installments between like an 8 yr gap between SFIV/SFV even though they made enhanced editions of IV between even when you look at SF3 Third Strike late 90s with the Alpha and EX series around that time and SFIV 2008 thats almost a decade. Still VF and BR are no doubt still buried and need to be revived like a Phoenix from the Ashes.I think if Konami brings back BR they should HD remaster the first game maybe BR2 also since that’s the best one as a double combo edition lol and the following few yrs make a long awaited BR5 sequel. For VF they need they first off need to make a freakin story actually in the game no one especially these days will dig in the manual to figure out whats going on, character prologues and endings or something, give us a new final boss I’m tired of Dural like everyone, expand the move sets and combos and that should be VF6 should be on par to compete with Tekken with these changes. And yeah thats my opinion on the future we can hope for.

[@cardo92w]

Along with Eternal Champions

[@armorwolf7934]

They need to make a snake and rhino guy

[@VanArtic]

BR3 is still played at 南森町コーハツ (Challenger Kouhatsu) an arcade center in Osaka, Japan; they have a youtube channel of the same name where they upload some really good matches there

[@minimanimoo8715]

Then what the youtube channel name?

[@VanArtic]

@@minimanimoo8715 like i said, its 南森町コーハツ

[@minimanimoo8715]

Okay thanks

[@bionicdragon5]

KBash: "There will be no Animorphs reference! There will be no BNA reference! There will be no Emperor's New Groove reference!" Furries: [steeples fingers expectantly]

[@TheIDcard123]

What about Killing Bites?

[@garuelx8627]

@@TheIDcard123 aka Bloody Roar but with rape.

[@anthonyrios2311]

@@TheIDcard123 I was thinking the same thing.

[@anthonyrios2311]

There's also another anime involving people who can transform into animals called K.O. Beast which *looks back at Wikipedia page* had Takehiko Ito (Outlaw Star) as the Character Designer *looks again* Sam Reigel and Liam Ó Brian *looks one more time* and hey Koyasu was in this as well.

[@JulietStMoon]

Who else watches the patreon read just to hear him say "simp GOD"?

[@jamescallahan2258]

literally almost noone. I stayed for Damaged KZbin Analytics this time

[@Holesale00]

ME I FUCKING LOVE IT OMFG

[@J.W.J.]

Yes.

[@ThatoGololo]

I never stayed for the patreon read so thank you for informing the masses because that was great

[@Shadowkarnage]

This reminds me of thorins league of legends analysis and podcasts/shows at the end one patreon sub is “bluntsmokinganaldestroyer” and gets a callout with all the other subs. Its the only reason i sit through it all at the end🤣🤣🤣

[@OG509]

I remember how my heart was shaking whenever I would come across Shenlong in Bloody Roar 2 when I was kid 😖

[@nicolasmartinez3138]

Bloody Roar 2 has a special place in my heart... one of the first games I ever played

[@LeoMidori]

I really enjoy this series, and I think that given how things have changed on a social level you could potentially bring back Fox and Mitsuko, two characters that were dropped for their unconventional designs at the time and would likely be better received now. Twinky girlish assasin fox guy and beefy butch boar mom totally have a place in modern gaming.

[@jacksonpeds5298]

Hans, Fox's real name had nothing wrong with his appearance, he simply killed himself upon realizing he killed his mother in his BR1 ending.

[@LeoMidori]

@@jacksonpeds5298 Nah I know. I was just remarking on his character design/species. :3

[@depressedcatwithdiabetes9077]

if fox make a return he will be really popular cuz hey it a femboy fox

[@Justitia_Nomen]

I never got to play with them since the first one I played was Bloody Roar 3. But femboy fox and butch-boar mom would be HELLA received now

[@gamingntea]

Just because a game didn’t make it into EVO doesn’t mean it doesn’t have “competitive play potential”. totu, whom you’ve unfairly criticized in this video for “squashing the pachinko rumor”? Yeah, he’s been uploading videos of BR3 arcade high level play for at least 5 years. So if Jerimiahisaiah, totu, TN Power & Krizyugofox Games have all been steadily uploading high level play of BR2, 3 & Extreme (GC) from the US, UK, Japan, Taiwan & Colombia respectively for numerous years now, how does this game not have the potential for a scene again? And all these references to the SRK threads are missing one thing: They were made before social media. Meaning that ONLY English-speaking FGC purists diligently frequented them. And as established, those threads are largely misinformed when it came to Bloody Roar's "balance issues". I appreciate the effort you put into making this, and I WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree with you about the series’ presentation issues. But claiming this series doesn’t have any nostalgic backbone from which it can be properly revitalized is simply untrue. I should know. I’m from Saudi FRIGGIN Arabia 🤣

[@bfFAN221]

Agreed! It might not be as frequent in the mainstream of the fgc, I do see it quite often from time to time recommended in some way or another. This video's script felt too dismissive and ignorant, not that the video is bad per say...

[@keystonelyte]

I think you probably shouldn't take the 'didn't make it to Evo' thing seriously. It's abundantly clear that he's being facetious every time he says it. He didn't exactly take a shit on the game; balance issues were the norm in 90's fighting games. Bloody Roar certainly had it's admirers, myself included, but it remains very niche to this day.

[@gamingntea]

@@keystonelyte I must establish that I agree with his criticisms of the series' presentation and I am seriously one of the most outspoken critics of BRtrashass4 you will EVER meet in life LOL! That said, my issue doesn't lie with KBash's opinions on Bloody Roar. It lies with the LONG-spread inaccuracies that this series 'wouldn't hack it as a competitive game', because that, my friend, is simply not true. And the REASON I insist on dispelling such inaccuracies is that I've seen too many people spend years of their lives dedicating themselves to proving that the vast majority of the Bloody Roar games are, in fact, prime subjects for high level play. The EVO thing just set me off. Oh, and dissing totu was a low blow. Finally, if KBash KNEW that Jerimiahisaiah was "the current champion of Bloody Roar content on KZbin" yet only mentioned him in the description, this acknowledgement of his HAD to have been an afterthought.

[@keystonelyte]

@@gamingntea I don't disagree with the sentiment that it is competitively viable. The game that is largely considered to be one of the best competitive fighting games, SF3: Third Strike, is wildly imbalanced, with the parry mechanic completely ruining balancing further. The fact of the matter is that the best competitive fighting games have one thing in common; they are largely both fun as hell to play AND watch. My favorite fighting game to date is Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: Heritage for the Future, and despite being a 20 y/o fighting game, it had a massive community compared to what you'd think, and is actively competitive to this day on Fightcade and Red GGPO. It's fun to play and watch, its innovative as all hell with its mechanics, its animations are slick, and the music is awesome. It's also wildly imbalanced and 2 characters are straight up banned on the existing competitive scene. I'd argue that the imbalance makes the games inherently more interesting.

[@gamingntea]

@@keystonelyte Notice how I never maintained that the balance in the Bloody Roar series was perfect. Hell, Uranus from BOTH BR3 & X is banned AF! The reason I prefer to highlight Bloody Roar over some other FGs is the fact that I've yet to play a fighting game series with multiple installments that are instantly fun to gamers who don't know SHIT about fighting games, yet each has some of the steepest mastery curves I've come across in FGs! That part has always been hard to sell to potential fellow FGC enthusiasts, and yet Bloody Roar has always done that with ease! I still remember how many of my family & friends would hold impromptu tourneys for BR2 & 3 even though they all HATED fighting games AND we all couldn't compete for SHIT! LMAO!

[@ultrawillpower2737]

The 4th game may have “killed” the series, but there’s still hope in a next-gen title! Think about it: balanced mechanics that take from every game minus 4, an upgraded version of Extreme, and a story that goes back to the original sci-fi “X-Men’ tone of the first two titles that further explores the struggle in relations between Humans and Zoanthropes, and of course, more Zoanthropes. Oh, and a soundtrack that’s a heavenly mix between Guilty Gear and Killer Instinct 2013. Who‘s up for having a Bloody Roar Extreme tournament for Combo Breaker next year? Lemme hear y’all!

[@DrMecha]

8ing no longer makes fighting games. Konami have no interest in it. The closest thing we got now was the Killing Bites manga series (which have a similar premise to Bloody Roar)

[@Ramsey276one]

Chronos Ganesha Uranus ... Anubis? Sobek? The Manticore? The Sphinx?

[@calemr]

I'd love a real story mode, using all characters, rather than just the singular stories of arcade mode. A full plotline following everyone through the latest zoanthrope race war.

[@majortom331]

@@DrMecha 8ing still makes fighting games. The make zoids: king of blast for the switch, which was like 2 years ago. And add the fact that konami has been filing trademarks for bloody roar.

[@roberthasudungan1546]

@@calemr a full plot line story mode like MK in PS3/PS4 would be difficult since BR lacked real villain other than Busuzima and Reiji (Xion was manipulated by The Unborn, Shenlong was a clone and ZLF puppet leader before Long knocked some sense to him)

[@demitriuscovington370]

Pain is knowing I’ll never get to batter people with ShenLong ever again.

[@tedjomuljono3052]

Oh and fun fact, the "hold guard button lets you dodge any kind of attack" feature also existed before, in a game called Kensei:Sacred Fist, a PS1 fighting game.....by Konami, it's the only fighting game where you can play as Steven Seagull

[@phsquared1000]

I find it hilarious that Kbash mentions Bloody Roar caught attention in Vietnam because that’s where I first ever heard of it. I was at a relatives house and they let me play some games on their PC and this was the game they suggested. It was pretty lit but I had no idea what I was doing. But when I found out the name of the series a few years back I immediately knew it was the same game I played back in Vietnam.

[@strippinheat]

One punch button, one kick button, and a block button. * Virtua Fighter and Dead or Alive have entered the chat *

[@pftmclub]

@@SnakeInTheRain throw is a part of punch and guard button. That's throw button is a hotkey. In official arcade board there is only 3 button

[@pftmclub]

@@SnakeInTheRain like i said, BR had throw button, even VF have it. But it's hotkey nothing more, so it's doesn't count

[@pftmclub]

@@SnakeInTheRain vf already had that button. Have you ever play it on ps2, ps3 and dreamcast, dude?

[@pftmclub]

@@SnakeInTheRain if you can perform throw without throw button, then that button is hotkey, that's it

[@pftmclub]

@@SnakeInTheRain should i upload a video for proof :\ ?

[@ford427v8]

This is probably *the* most comprehensive and balanced retrospective, and critical review, for the Bloody Roar franchise I've ever seen. I've been playing it as early as the 1997 PlayStation demo disk demo, and yet I'm still largely a casual fighting gamer, so to hear someone's critical input on this game from a technical aspect is way more interesting than just nostalgic gushing, and explains why my beloved was never really fit for EVO or the likes. But, yeah, there's also the nostalgic gushing. None of us can help our closet pleasures of humanoid animals and excessive blood, even when we're almost 40.

[@AizakkuAnalysis]

The bunny be looking cute though.

[@amuro9624]

She THICC

[@kanatapaw]

Alice, she used to piss me off with the kawaii look. but at the same time, annoyingly I couldn't help but like her.

[@GELTONZ]

The weird thing is how DRASTICALLY Alice changes between games. Her moveset is mostly the same but her design and personality are RADICALLY different in each one. Bloody Roar 1 Alice is my favorite. Look up the 2D art of her.

[@jaythan.221]

She really does

[@kendonl.taylor5111]

@@amuro9624 Alice's outfits in Bloody Roar 1 showed her....backside.

[@PawsOfFate]

10:00 "...Whining guitars, screaming people, if you like it you're probably 30." ....... Touché.

[@otakuthegreat]

Never clicked so fast in my life. 3 had the best GAME OVER tune, FIGHT ME!

[@Moplonn]

I can't remember the game over theme, All I remember is Dino Museum, that sick opening, and Yugo's constant yelling whenever he punches.

[@otakuthegreat]

@@Moplonn it's called "Earth of Despair"

[@gamingntea]

In general, the music in the 1st 3 games was just pristine instrumental rock. Only gripe I had with it was that the pieces averaged at 1:30 mins each.

[@otakuthegreat]

@@gamingntea Yeah, they were darn short Still would love to see this return one day

[@hc33361]

I’m 22 and this game is what jump started my addiction to fighting games in general. I find myself thinking ab this game every couple of weeks and I’ve never seen anything ab it until now.

[@cannonballking7]

I really like this series starting with extreme and i wish it could come back some how, but at least i have the memories. Keep up the good work, have a nice day and don't falter.

[@nicovelardita8619]

I remember this, vaguely, good memories, thanks for bringing them back to me

[@SpaceTacoTV]

Bloody freakin Roar! What a nostalgia trip

[@DirtyCasual36]

fun fact: the developers of bloody roar (Eighting) were the same devs responsible for Marvel VS. Capcom 3: Ultimate. They also worked on Castlevania Judgement, Castlevania fighting game where the character designs were made by the Takeshi Ohbata, the artist for Deatnote

[@Holesale00]

As usual im here for the SIMP GOD line read, carry on gamers.

[@siriussothis7851]

in South America this game was Huge! (bloody roar 2 mainly), so many good memories. it always shocked me that the franchise died so long ago.

[@decadentgamer3108]

Bloody Roar is such a sad tale when it comes to 3D Fighting games. It had a pretty cool concept, some interesting characters, and while the gameplay was not really as smooth as Soul Calibur or Dead or Alive, it still was a neat series that was brimming with potential. My first entry into the series was with Primal Fury on the GameCube. I remember seeing a review of the game on G4's X-Play way back in the day, had to be around 2002-2003 and I remember telling my brother about it as we were both into 3D fighters and we ended upboth saving money to get. We get it and while we did acknowledge that it wasn't as fluid as Tekken 5 or Soul Calibur 2, we still really liked it a lot. We would spend so much time playing it and we considered ourselves fans at that point, enough to get Bloody Roar 4 the day it came out. At the time, we didn't really notice anything too wrong with it at first until we noticed just how broken the gameplay was from matches either taking longer than you'd think they should or over in an instant. And then of course the awful voice acting (So bad it's hilarious). Yeah we had really mixed feelings about BR4 and we came to the conclusion that where we though that Primal Fury was better. I eventually did get around to playing the first 3 BR games and I had fun with all of them, even BR1 despite the nightmare fuel that was the character designs lol. The music was awesome in all the games but it was a given since I like Rock so eh lol. And yeah, I can agree with all you said about BR3, it was where the game truly was starting to get somewhat of a footing of what it wanted to be. Like I admitted before in your Soul Calibur videos, I was never really a competitve or heavily technical player, I don't know all the fancy fighting game terms outside of the basics and it just comes down to whether I enjoy playing the game or not and Bloody Roar just happened to be one of those games. It's really depressing where Bloody Roar has ended up because while it did have a very rough to experimental type of run, it would've been so cool to see carry on into the PS3/360 era. I mean could you imagine how cool a next gen Bloody Roar game would've looked graphically? And plus, I'm more than sure they would've found a way to make the gameplay work and make up for the "meh" of BR4. And considering that Hudson Soft went defunct in 2011, it seems that Bloody Roar may stay in the ground for the rest of time. I still remember when there was rumors that Bloody Roar 5 was in the making only for it to be fake lol. I'd like think that maybe we'll see Bloody Roar come back but with Konami's track record with how they've been handling their games (or lack thereof with those damn Pachinko machines), yeah the BR series is pretty much doomed but hey, miracles can happen sometimes right? lol Anyway awesome review, it's nice to see more people talking about these games~

[@wickedarctiinae4132]

I used to play Bloody Roar II with my cousins, they had the game. Yeah that was fun. Never got to see the bat lady, damn she's cool.

[@abot4029]

How dare you refuse to reference Emperor's New Groove. Unsubscribed.

[@lordkiza8838]

Same Kuzco is a legend.

[@finklebottommale4548]

Are we forgetting about the one true Alpha Chad Krunk?

[@achair7958]

@@finklebottommale4548 Oh yeah. It's all coming together.

[@moroseloki1912]

What 😆

[@dustargentum]

The furry market wasn´t ready back then

[@TheHuskyK9]

@@sridrawings4510 It’s already ruined

[@SmilingSunZ]

@@TheHuskyK9 can just remaster one of the original 3 games and not the ones after or just make 5 but better. I mean it has been 3 generations of consoles so it can happen

[@dustargentum]

@@Cosmic-Turtle wasn't a joke, mate.

[@akiradkcn]

@@Cosmic-Turtle bruh

[@Cosmic-Turtle]

@@akiradkcn Shut your noise tube, you number... I just got really tired of constantly seeing furry jokes. Forgive me.

[@ScarletStarManor]

Bless, two bloody roar restrospectives, one from the Krash Basher himself and one from the Muscles of the Matt, and both with good, proper, respectful insights. Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU. God this series deserves more love.

[@ight3817]

Respective insight? Lol did you not pay attention to what this guy was saying? He was mostly negative than positive, and sounds like he only tried out these games for a day then quit because he didn't like them. The games aren't met to be taken seriously, but some people don't realize which is foolish.

[@ScarletStarManor]

@@ight3817 Even as a bloody roar fan I can agree with some of his statements, because a lot of them are true when it comes to the more recent games, it's not like he spouted total bullshit.

[@RamboCreativity]

I still play BR4 & 3 with friends via emulators and parsec. This was one of my favorite franchises of all time since soul calibur. I'm glad kbash finally touched upon it. If I had the power to revive this franchise I would love to.

[@alexarnaiz9769]

I loved Bloody Roar 2 and I'm still sad it ended up disappearing, but as you point out it followed a bad route on following installments. I would like to see it making a comeback with nowadays graphics, but I have 0 hope on that.

[@TheChronboy420]

I was thinking about how I'm upset we haven't seen a new one in a while but then I realized that if it had a sequel these days you would get 10 characters for your 60 dollars and then you'd have to pay 8 dollars a piece for the next 10 characters

[@amuro9624]

Also Konami doesn't want to make games anymore because they decided that instead of studying why some of their games didn't sell they'd rather make pachinko machines

[@bobbynick5358]

Kinda wish Bloody Roar made one final game that was like Remix of all games put together, almost like MK trilogy like game, having all characters from all the series put into one game. and have different fighting styles something like Street fighter Alpha 3 but it's more like game mechanics styles from all the series like style one would more Bloody roar 2 like, two would like the 3rd game style, then etc etc for the other styles. and locations from almost every game.

[@treacherousjslither6920]

I would get home from school and play Bloody Roar for hours. Love this game.

[@AkinOzD]

Watching the B.Roar2 part of the video just.. the nostalgia killed me, I will always love that game.

[@Nathan-rb3qp]

I've never heard someone so happy about killing a child before.

[@KevinSkye1]

Okay man, I recently saw a Bloody Roar retrospective video but your commentary sold this for me. You got yourself a follow. Good work.

[@1ofakind247]

2 and Primal Fury are forever the best I still think the game has a chance, but has to perform greatly in a lot of ways including gameplay design, thing that Konami now holding the license of the game is afraid to do

[@gamingntea]

Mr Warman Mechanically, Bloody Roar 2, 3 & Extreme for the GC are actually VERY sound

[@gamingntea]

@Adrianto Shinomori watch my dude jerimiahisaiah

[@thepulseman7154]

Thanks for mentionning this series! Back when I was a kid, one of my brother's class mates lended us Bloody Roar 2 for the PSX and we spend countless hours on it, almost as much as the likes of Soul Blade, Tekken 3 and Soul Calibur II. Years later I was in a boarding school, and a friend of mine reminded me of BR 2 as she played the japanese version on a PSX as a kid. Eventually, on our free time during wednesday afternoons, we would load it on an emulator on my laptop and play for hours. I even trained during some evenings in my room, and eventually I discovered the likes of command cancels and other stuff I didn't understand as a kid. After that I discovered the other episodes in the series and now I have them all except BR 1 and 4. Even though there is little to no hope for a revival, at least there is a small but dedicated community playing the games, and following the top 8 on Extreme at Combo Breaker 2022 was a pleasure.

[@loremipsum980]

A fighting game where the roster includes animals/animal people is a very interesting and cool idea. I wonder why so few games like this exist? :/ Fighting games where you only get to play as humans are sooo boring now...

[@minimanimoo8715]

Trueeeee

[@TheDemonking82]

Bloody roar 1 and 2 are the definition for underrated or under appreciated. I loved this the day I bought it for my ps1 this and the bushido blade series.

[@hidralalo]

Just found this game in a "best joke characters" with Chronos(?) The penguine just yesterday. And look what the feed recomends me, hahaha

[@AloneForeverXIII]

I loved this game series so much when I was a kid. It was the first fighting game I ever played. Thank you Kbash for talking about this game and bringing back good memories.

[@MrDeeBerry]

"If you like this you're probably thirty" I felt that

[@clawofthefallen]

Bloody Roar was a gem of a franchise that had no right to be good. It's only redeeming factor was BADASSERY and guitars. A niche game if there ever was one. But a very fun project among 2 companies that are MASTERS at making shmup games, trying out something different for the hell of it, just to see teenagers go "aaaaaaaawesome". Thank you for existing Bloody Roar... I'll never forget you. Cuz I never stopped replaying BR2.

[@ight3817]

Omfg I wish I still had BR2 :( my dad was the one who introduced me and my brothers to that game, so it's literally apart of my childhood that I'll never forget either. Sooooo many fun days and nights with that damn game lol. My heart broke when I found out one day, someone broke my dads BR2 disk in half!!! Idk if it was an accident, but he was so upset and so was I... ugh I really hate when things like that happens. Now we will never be able to play that game again unless we find another copy, hopefully one day we can to relive the best times in our lives!

[@NegoClau]

One thing about this game, that might not generate any hype: IT'S A KONAMI GAME...

[@amuro9624]

I love how Konami will actively ruin their games then say:"games aren't selling anymore so we'll just do pachinko machines"

[@Danphiroud]

I love Bloody Roar and I always will. It's one of the fundamental pilars of my creations, either writing or just art. The animations of every character in Bloody Roar 1 were amazing at the time, like Long's kung fu or Yugo's boxing (?) and on top of that, throw badass werebeast transformations that were unique to everyone. And I'll always remember the first time I fought Uriko, the child that transformed into a hovering woman and then, well... Something terrifying. I just love it.

[@fallencrusade6924]

I only played 3 & 4, and I'm almost 30 so thanks for calling me out. 😂 Also Uriko was my girl, with Jenny as a close second.

[@Watchful049]

Oh man this brings back memories of my older brother, cousin, and I playing this in Philippines. We lied to my parents about buying snacks to play Bloody Roar and Teken in the arcades.

[@darkanddandy6898]

And he got a haircut! He looks so handsome! Canadian Handsome, one of the rarer types of handsome there is!

[@lesenfantsterribles2119]

Woah you got a crush on him?

[@daijodan]

@@lesenfantsterribles2119 You don't??

[@AwesomeJimJam]

v true

[@orlandomagician8321]

Thank you for making this 🙏

[@sankyubi1786]

This man just used footage of an unused final boss virtua fighter character when describing the damage output in the game Interesting choice

[@BigKrisco]

My top 5 fighting/4 player fighting games of all time: Rival Schools: United by Fate Bloody Roar (All) Power Stone 2 Kung Fu Chaos Soul Calibur 2 Bonus: Custom Robo

[@neoshenlong]

You know, with the success of the ... furry uprising... I think its a great moment for Bloody Roar to come back. I was actually thinking about it recently while watching BNA.

[@c2HitsButtons]

I am loving this more-regular upload schedule. Keep up the great work, mate!

[@thepaper888]

Oh how I loved it so I have told so many people about it and they were like I never heard of this.

[@dominiquewillis8291]

Bloody Roar 2 is definitely the greatest of the series but yeah, mad props for this upload. One of my favorite fighters ever, would love to see some sort of reboot or remakes of the original games.

[@CsStoker]

To me Bloody Roar 2 was the epitome of this franchise.

[@thecommenter5278]

The combo in this game is crazy fun to pull off

[@skaionex]

Hey all, if you like bloody roar, keep a look out for an upcoming game called Origin of Storms by Arcfogred. Its inspired by bloody roar and marvel vs Capcom. Look it up. I'm sure you won't be disappointed.

[@doyouwantmore8860]

I would love a new installment from this series I watched a tournament of it recently and it was so fun to watch

[@jinxhand]

I too think BR3 was the most "competitively sound" version, though I did enjoy BR2 and BRPF. I do still wish for a new installment built around the good system mechanics found throughout the series. I would love all the characters to return. Sadly, I don't see this happening though.

[@mrf19741]

I still remember when Bloody Roar first came to arcades in America. It was called Beastorizer. I tried it and never really got the hang of it. However, Bloody Roar 2 became one of my All-time Favorite PS1 games! I still play it to this day.

[@GaryJojo]

I vaguely remember this game. And mostly using the Bunny and Lion characters.

[@Rikuphi]

Man, I want Bloody Roar to make a return so badly. Great video, that "stay gold" at the end hit me right in the feels, tho :( Thanks for showing love to BR in 2020!

[@NoRegs30]

I can't believe he did not even mention Killing Bites at the start (or Beastars but that's less important)

[@Mewseeker]

Or kemono Friends. :D

[@garuelx8627]

not mentioning Beastars makes sense cause they're not shapeshifters. Killing Bites was probably not mentioned for a different reason...

[@NoRegs30]

@@garuelx8627 Beastars may have been a stretch (don't remember the context) but I'm still sad about the killing bites one, its not amazing but it fits with the theme here

[@garuelx8627]

@@NoRegs30 because that anime is super rapey. The cobra's special move involved his hemidick.

[@rashonburnett6473]

Anytime I see a video on Bloody Roar I instantly click and in the back of my head I hope that supporting any and all Bloody Roar videos that pop up in my feed as recommended that someone, somewhere is plotting a secret revival for the series next gen.

[@watermelonpizza7824]

T.T I miss this game.

[@ayuvir]

Oh man, I remember playing BR2 and Primal Fury. So sad to know that the series never took off. It was a genuinely fun game.

[@WaddyMuters]

My review: I think I remember the second one. It was alright.

[@Ramsey276one]

Fully agree

[@Khaos909]

Idk why you don't have more subs man. Your videos are always legendary. Keep up the amazing work! Plus i love Bloody Roar so thats a huge bonus

[@andyblargextra]

Next you should talk about the Zatch Bell fighting games.

[@jamescallahan2258]

Hell yeah, electric arena was one I actually enjoyed because I really loved the anime. Generally hate 2d fighters.

[@pedrojackson8416]

Im from South America, and Bloody Roar 2 is my second best fighting game for the PS1 only topped by MvsC

[@felipeterranova2452]

"So Broken is Balanced" so... MK 2011 xd

[@ricardoterrinha4899]

What I love bout you KB is that you make me totally interested in watching a full length video on a weird video game that I never touched in my life.

[@Silburific]

When I was 13, my parents got me a Gamecube and Primal Fury for my birthday because, every time we went to Walmart, I would park my ass in the game section and just play the demo until my mom had to drag me off. No game will ever hold the place in my heart that Bloody Roar does.

[@ArxGaming67]

Beasterize would be an amazing comeback mechanic in this day and age and you can't tell me different.

[@FoxDemonMaster]

I miss Bloody Roar 2 so much Bakuryu was my go to guy his helicopter grab in beast mode was by bread and butter in a pinch

[@anthonycampos7417]

i miss Bloody Roar 2, that game was my jam. ill pour one out tonight

[@moroseloki1912]

Always wondered about this cool video man thanks... This game was amazing I had it on PlayStation, Xbox and GameCube. Gotta edit the edit because I hit Subscribe.

[@IHeliosI]

Animorphs: ".....hey, it's nice just to be remembered."

[@artemis1993]

So many fond memories of playing Bloody Roar 2 with my brother back in the good old PS1 days. Spent countless hours trying to do everything in the game. Good times that will never be coming back...

[@hemangchauhan2864]

KBash tackling Bloody Roar?! HYPE!!!