The Rise And Fall Of Josh Rosen: Film Breakdown of What REALLY Happened.

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@AlexRollinsNFL
@AlexRollinsNFL 4 ай бұрын
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@Thatguybobcool
@Thatguybobcool 4 ай бұрын
Idk how else to explain but I love these breakdowns of old games or former players and why they failed. Keep doing them please
@AlexRollinsNFL
@AlexRollinsNFL 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@alexokabayashi456
@alexokabayashi456 4 ай бұрын
Rosen is one of those guys you THINK you should feel bad for. it takes a couple minutes of “digging” to figure out he was just an outstandingly arrogant asshole haha
@furiogiunta7886
@furiogiunta7886 4 ай бұрын
Yeah ... his own teammates did not like him at all.
@brandonwright5792
@brandonwright5792 3 ай бұрын
@@furiogiunta7886 pretty of Cardinals teammates liked him. idk what you are on about lol.
@furiogiunta7886
@furiogiunta7886 3 ай бұрын
@@brandonwright5792 doubt it
@robertbrubaker607
@robertbrubaker607 3 ай бұрын
@@brandonwright5792yeah, per another video, an anonymous Cards player said teammates got along with Josh but the coaching staff hated his guts
@furiogiunta7886
@furiogiunta7886 4 ай бұрын
I knew Rosen would be a bust when I heard none of his ULCA teammates showed up to his birthday party.
@robert48044
@robert48044 4 ай бұрын
What do you think of mr paycheck in Minnesota? Might not have a ring but has a few contracts and the word was the team wasn't his biggest supporter at MSU
@furiogiunta7886
@furiogiunta7886 4 ай бұрын
@@robert48044 Mr Paycheck in Minnesota? Are you talking about Kirk Cousins?
@jonathanking8429
@jonathanking8429 3 ай бұрын
That a Bo Callahan reference?🤔🙈
@AlexRollinsNFL
@AlexRollinsNFL 3 ай бұрын
Big if true
@SadfoxGuyver
@SadfoxGuyver 3 ай бұрын
@@robert48044he’s a theft
@lbonts
@lbonts 4 ай бұрын
decision making under pressure is the most important factor of NFL success imho and it’s the hardest to scout
@jmg999
@jmg999 4 ай бұрын
He had so much promise coming out of high school. I heard some coaches say that he was the most polished high school QB ever.
@Akkbar21
@Akkbar21 4 ай бұрын
That means nothing at the pro level. I don’t get what the big deal is. Wasn’t the first or last QB bust. Some guys can’t deliver at the top level. 🤷‍♂️
@LetMeEatDem
@LetMeEatDem 4 ай бұрын
Do you know how many great HS athletes never even see the field at the D1 level? Your high school performance holds no weight to how successful you will be at the collegiate level let alone the NFL level.
@Dr.Sortospino
@Dr.Sortospino 4 ай бұрын
I made this mistake before when I evaluated kids out of the HS and on College. Some kid really peak earlier than others by a 1 year or 2. And it seems they are 20 steps ahead of everybody. Then, the other recovers...and you see all the ceiling.
@hatuletoh
@hatuletoh 4 ай бұрын
That was probably part of the problem. He was used to being the best, and he never learned the vital skills of humility and how to put in the work to get better. While he was at UCLA there was always talk that he was a stereotypical insufferable jock bro qb who thought he was god's gift to the world, and while that might or might not be true, the hot tub in the dorm thing certainly lends some credence to the rumors. So does his infamous post-draft interview.
@Akkbar21
@Akkbar21 4 ай бұрын
@@hatuletoh I didn’t realize he had so much heat in him for anything other than simply not performing at the expected level.
@MatthewPurcell-x4s
@MatthewPurcell-x4s 4 ай бұрын
Rumor is he habitually left skid marks in the team facilities. Lost the locker room within days in AZ and SF
@frederickshaibani5655
@frederickshaibani5655 4 ай бұрын
Yeah apparently Larry Fitzgerald couldn’t stand Rosen
@forrestgump9580
@forrestgump9580 4 ай бұрын
@@frederickshaibani5655Neither could his college teammates
@AlexRollinsNFL
@AlexRollinsNFL 3 ай бұрын
Skid marks are absolutely 0 chill
@ddevilsugar
@ddevilsugar 4 ай бұрын
Interesting topic Alex. I’d be great to see other first round busts to see what was missed/overlooked by NFL scouts.
@Akkbar21
@Akkbar21 4 ай бұрын
Classic case of internet over analysis. He’s just one in a long line of QB busts. It’s not special, it’s not unique and tbh… it’s not that interesting imo. Just because you need to create content, some topics are just boring and don’t need to be delved into.
@judyhouy5578
@judyhouy5578 2 ай бұрын
@@Akkbar21many first round busts end up journeyman and become lifetime backups. Case in point; Darnold, Fields, Trubisky, and Dalton.
@OkagaCalifornia
@OkagaCalifornia 4 ай бұрын
I remember that Rosen and the Cardinals beat the Packers that year in Lambeau. Rodgers losing to a shitty rookie was one of the funniest things of that season.
@noobguy57
@noobguy57 4 ай бұрын
Led to the end of McCarthy in Green Bay. 2018 was a weird season for Green Bay, had decent promise after a hot start in 2017 ruined by a broken collarbone, then came back in Week 1 against the Bears. Missed the playoffs, had an interesting shootout with Sam Darnold, but that loss to the Cardinals led to major change in Green Bay which is still felt today.
@kenneykatfishtenyardfight
@kenneykatfishtenyardfight 4 ай бұрын
Wow! Someone asked for a breakdown of J Frozen in the comments a lil while ago.
@tigerwoods373
@tigerwoods373 4 ай бұрын
Funny you call him that, I was thinking he's what a 70 yo Peyton manning would look like. Maybe that's giving him too much credit. At least Peyton was effective with his stiff pocket mannerisms.
@kenneykatfishtenyardfight
@kenneykatfishtenyardfight 4 ай бұрын
@@tigerwoods373 lol that's funny as heck
@AlexRollinsNFL
@AlexRollinsNFL 3 ай бұрын
I try and listen to the boys!
@echt114
@echt114 4 ай бұрын
It's amazing how some QBs get chance after chance until they succeed with advantageous coaching and supporting casts, but others are thrown into bad situations and then labeled failures.
@caseysenethavilay9255
@caseysenethavilay9255 4 ай бұрын
Hot tub in the dorm room got me 🤣 forgot about that
@Dawg-Bone
@Dawg-Bone 4 ай бұрын
With Rosen, it didn’t matter how talented he was nor how talented the team around him was. It never would’ve matched his arrogance. Said arrogance was his undoing.
@marksperry9246
@marksperry9246 4 ай бұрын
He re-signed with 49ers as a free agent in 2021 because he thought he had a chance to compete for a starting job with Jimmy coming off another injury. With the 49ers drafting Trey Lance, and newcomer FA Nate Sudfeld played better than expected, he basically said "I'm out" and requested to be released. In hindsight, had he just sat and learned, he may have become a starter, and the 49ers most likely would never have drafted Purdy. While you want your QB to be arrogant in a way, his attitude was indeed a major part of the problem.
@ChristopherMosley-dj3kt
@ChristopherMosley-dj3kt 4 ай бұрын
​@@marksperry9246he didn't think he had a chance to start in SF🤦‍♂️
@AutumnReel4444
@AutumnReel4444 4 ай бұрын
​@@ChristopherMosley-dj3kt Then why request to be released?
@manleyfgc7981
@manleyfgc7981 4 ай бұрын
Says the man in a comment section glazing a mf that doesn't even know he exists lmaooo
@TyaColo
@TyaColo 4 ай бұрын
@@manleyfgc7981 Do you even know what glazing means? Lol
@Oklahoma-Dreaming
@Oklahoma-Dreaming 4 ай бұрын
To me, Rosen just doesn’t have that “sense of urgency” that a great QB must have. I’m not saying he has to bounce around like a rabbit in a Falcon hunt. But an NFL QB should get quickly into his drop, hit his back foot, and throw it like his life depends upon it. Drew Brees is a prime example. Drew wasn’t my favorite quarterback but he got the ball out I believe in 2.65 seconds or less, on average, and he did it accurately too.
@Phillipkpickett
@Phillipkpickett 4 ай бұрын
As a Cards fan, this video can be summed up to Steve Kiem being a horrible GM and scout, drafting a guy way too high. Thats it. He was just overvalued at the draft. Period.
@GitzenShiggles
@GitzenShiggles 4 ай бұрын
The Cardinals nearly ALWAYS overvalue quarterbacks in the draft. Rosen, Leinart, Murray, etc. All are busts.
@AlexRollinsNFL
@AlexRollinsNFL 3 ай бұрын
Keim put together some pretty talented teams, I disagree! Although when Rosen got there they were trash
@brandonwright5792
@brandonwright5792 3 ай бұрын
@@AlexRollinsNFL Keim was carried by Arians lol. Arians got the most out of the players. As soon as he was gone, they were trash.
@deecee2174
@deecee2174 2 ай бұрын
Keim had a DUI or two, what did we expect!? Monti is the Chosen One for Arizona
@daneberhardt8658
@daneberhardt8658 4 ай бұрын
Rosen was up and down in college. One game he'd dominate and then another he'd be pedestrian. That was the story of his career. His "potential" is what got him drafted but it was obviously never realized.
@monophthalmos9633
@monophthalmos9633 4 ай бұрын
Could it be that the Cardinals didn't draft him to be a Drew Brees type QB that wins with accuracy and anticipation, but hoped to get him to play more like Carson Palmer whom they replaced with Rosen?
@gatienlaurol5793
@gatienlaurol5793 4 ай бұрын
That would make if Bruce Arians made the pick. But he was picked by Steve Wilks. But Byron Leftwich was the OC (an Arians disciple but a so-so coordinator in his own right). Also, Mike McCoy was other OC (he coached Peyton Manning and Philip Rivers) so maybe he was getting too many mixed messages from both coaches?
@jakesnake2354
@jakesnake2354 4 ай бұрын
Analysis is 100% spot on BANGER
@AlexRollinsNFL
@AlexRollinsNFL 3 ай бұрын
Thanks brother!
@KippinCollars
@KippinCollars 4 ай бұрын
He was the Golden Boy who had coaches create the perfect high school and college system for him to succeed in, and he underwhelmed. He had enough hype to get drafted, and his true colors showed. We all played with a kid like that at one point as kids. We all remember thinking while playing on those teams, "If this kid is so good, then why do we keep losing?"
@echt114
@echt114 4 ай бұрын
Sounds like the kind of dumb question asked by stupid people want to shift the blame from themselves.
@yourexmoe
@yourexmoe 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Alex!! So much closer to football everyday!
@AlexRollinsNFL
@AlexRollinsNFL 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Moises! Yessir baby!
@JorgeGarcia-lr3vk
@JorgeGarcia-lr3vk 4 ай бұрын
He was just another Steve Keim pick bust. During that time, I remember so many Cardinals fans being pissed that Keim took him over Lamar Jackson. I remember watching different draft analysis videos and you can just tell Lamar was a far superior player than Rosen. Of course, Keim being the drunk buffoon he is, chose Rosen who was average in college at best over the Heisman winner who carried Louisville on his back.
@JBM425
@JBM425 3 ай бұрын
4:23 I know where you got that remark! There was an article in SI about Rosen in his first or second season at UCLA. It noted that he had a hot tub or Jacuzzi ***IN*** his dorm room; not in the courtyard or patio, but inside. That doesn’t make him a bad QB, but it did make him come off as being arrogant.
@AlexRollinsNFL
@AlexRollinsNFL 3 ай бұрын
Yep!
@tenningale
@tenningale 4 ай бұрын
He had a strange career and it's somewhat surprising he couldn't at least catch on in a backup role somewhere. He was bad the first year, but not terrible given it was probably the worst roster in the league. Then AZ dumped him for Murray and he never caught on anywhere else.
@Akkbar21
@Akkbar21 4 ай бұрын
They’re human beings. He couldn’t perform anymore at the nfl level. Conference shot. Once it’s a constant all star game, some guys wither and die. No more than that.
@Something_normaI
@Something_normaI 4 ай бұрын
Seemed like the NFL changed too fast for him and his style of play was useless after year 1
@johnbox271
@johnbox271 4 ай бұрын
"I have a superiority complex I need to get rid of" - Josh Rosen Rosen overthought, delivering 40-second explanations to offensive coordinator Chad Johnson about a play that lasted six. ... he made so many pre-snap adjustments that he'd get -delay-of-game penalties. Bosco coach Jason Negro found himself saying, "Everybody understands that you're an intelligent guy, Josh. You don't have to wear it on your sleeve." During the summer-camp circuit of 2014, Elite 11 coach Trent Dilfer butted heads with Rosen after the prodigy took liberties with the playbook. Dilfer made public comments that Rosen needed to "buy into what I'm preaching." ...analysts such as Trent Dilfer ... during Rosen’s recruitment that he was arrogant and uncoachable... "I was pretty pissed off as I saw teams passing on me," Rosen said. "There were nine mistakes ahead of me." "Raise the SAT requirements at Alabama and see what kind of team they have." “I want to own the world." Chase Daniel was signed by the Washington Redskins as an undrafted free agent in 2009. While he was never signed to be a starter for any team in his 13 year career, he has made over $41 Million dollars.
@ACE-700
@ACE-700 4 ай бұрын
Not team would want a backup with his attitudes
@judyhouy5578
@judyhouy5578 2 ай бұрын
@@Something_normaIhe had a lot of trouble in high school with teammates. He was very similar to Brendan Fraser in the movie, School Ties. Hotshot quarterback disliked by his teammates. Struggling for acceptance in a very exclusive environment. I think that it gave him a complex when he got to the Bruins. He overcompensated for it.
@3lanksp_ce
@3lanksp_ce 4 ай бұрын
I can't believe you actually managed to resist putting the "there were 10 mistakes made" clip from him in this video.
@PaulGaither
@PaulGaither 4 ай бұрын
I am not even 40 yet, and I get so tired of these myths that mobile QBs are the new NFL. Mobility has always been an important asset. You don't have to be Fran Tarkington, Randal Cunningham, Mike Vick, or Lamar Jackson to be mobile, but you have to be able to buy time, escape, and at least able to throw the ball away if nothing is there while being chased rather than folding. Even Peyton Manning had to escape at times, and Brady has a lot of awesome scrambling highlight from start to the end of his career.
@ottoboutin5607
@ottoboutin5607 4 ай бұрын
Literally exactly what I was thinking lol. He talks about one of Rosen's fatal flaws was he'd just stand there and couldn't manipulate the pocket or keep his eyes down field while doing it. To compare that to Ryan, Manning, and Brady is wild. And to your point, we still have Burrow, Goff, and Dak doing good things from the pocket. The pocket passer is definitely not dead.
@cassidy109
@cassidy109 4 ай бұрын
The pocket passer is unlikely to ever go away. Even then the label of “pocket pass” is something of a misnomer. Take Dan Marino for instance, he was the prototypical pocket passer, but he had incredible mobility within the pocket, at least before age and injuries diminished his athleticism. In his younger days he could dance around in the pocket like a ballerina. The most stone footed QB I’ve ever seen was Drew Bledsoe. That man did everything slow. Dropped back from center slow, made his progressions slow, his release was slow. Heaven help you if he had to roll out. It was like watching a water buffalo.
@PaulGaither
@PaulGaither 4 ай бұрын
@@cassidy109 - Yes. Now, Bledsoe or Kerry Collins. I know that post-panthers Collins was a known statue as well.
@jaywebb0113
@jaywebb0113 4 ай бұрын
people seem to over look how good Dan Marino was in the pocket.
@symptomofsouls
@symptomofsouls 4 ай бұрын
@@cassidy109 Was because he was always drunk on the field, he was a major alcoholic my grandpa used to drive him home from bars
@zionnewkirk4838
@zionnewkirk4838 4 ай бұрын
Yay! Alex is back!!!😂😂😂
@AlexRollinsNFL
@AlexRollinsNFL 3 ай бұрын
Thanks brother!
@PaulGaither
@PaulGaither 4 ай бұрын
I love that you are making this kind of content. With all of the talk about how any QB can play in the Shanahan system, I remind them... and you too Alex basd on the end of this video... that Rosen was on the 49ers surrounded by talent & quality coaching and didn't last long there either.
@marksperry9246
@marksperry9246 4 ай бұрын
It was his attitude that was his down fall. He signed with them because they probably told him he had a chance to compete. Then they drafted Trey Lance a month later. Word has it that he decided he didn't have a future there so he asked for his release. In hindsight, had he been humble enough to just sit and learn he might have improved enough wherein he might have eventually beat Trey Lance for the job.
@PaulGaither
@PaulGaither 4 ай бұрын
@@marksperry9246 No. Rosen was on the team in 2020. Jimmy G got hurt again, so Nick Mullens took over as a starter, and Rosen couldn't even beat out the then third string QB CJ Beathard to back up Mullens after Jimmy was out. Yes, you are right that he left for Atlanta a month after Lance was drafted, but after spending most of 2020 with the 49ers and unable to oust Bethard to even dress for games.
@marksperry9246
@marksperry9246 4 ай бұрын
@PaulGaither That's right. I forgot he signed late 2020 to backup Beathard in the final 2 games of the horrible 2020 season because both Jimmy G and Mullins were injured, and JJ had covid. Of the 3 backups (Beathard, Mullens, & Rosen), only Rosen returned on a one year deal in 2021. He became the odd man out when Sudfeld beat him out for the third spot. I still think attitude was part of it. I remember a cringe worthy press conference he made just before he was released where he was complaining about not getting enough reps during practice in training camp.
@PaulGaither
@PaulGaither 4 ай бұрын
@marksperry9246 - Nick Mullens didn't return because he earned a better pay out for his performances in 2018 and 2020. No way the 49ers were going to pay him what he got to remain the third string after knowing they wanted to make a move at the QB spot. Beathard wasn't kept because he was not good at all, and I am fairly sure Kyle figured Rosen would want to save his career working with the 49ers and maube collecting playoff game checks, but that didn't pan out for him. You also brought up the good point about practice time for the 3rd string QB that has been a talking point with Lance and what Brock was able to do as a rookie.
@marksperry9246
@marksperry9246 4 ай бұрын
@PaulGaither Interesting. I thought Mullens wasn't retained because he tore his UCL in Dec of 2020, and they weren't sure how he was going to respond to the UCL brace surgery. I find it ironic that Nick's surgery provided the blueprint for Purdy's surgery.
@ceebee312
@ceebee312 4 ай бұрын
8:22 ahh I remember being at that game for Thursday night and bronco country invaded the stadium, as with all opposing teams traveling well.. Bad times indeed
@RyanJ504
@RyanJ504 4 ай бұрын
Don't count on a QB who cant hit the layups, unless he can get the short yards with exceptional running ability (but most NFL coaches dont want to risk their QB like that). The deep ball will never be high %. So if the hard throws are hard and the easy throws are hard, what do you have left that you can ask your QB to do?
@Collin275
@Collin275 4 ай бұрын
Cards fan here. I’ve always wondered what would’ve happened had he gone somewhere that wasn’t the colossal dumpster fire that were the 2018 Cards. Wilks was a blunt instrument of a head coach, heavy-handedly doling out punishments and overworking players in training camp because they’re “too soft.” Mike McCoy implemented an offensive scheme right out of 1994, responsible for historically awful offensive numbers. The running game was the worst part of the scheme. And Steve Keim will go down as one of our worst GMs ever, consistently drafting busts. To top it all off, the talent on the roster was…not good.
@llcj07
@llcj07 4 ай бұрын
This was a well-prepared upload. I'm curious how many people, put in the same situation at the end of Rosen's first season, would have kept Rosen or drafted Kyler?
@av2018
@av2018 4 ай бұрын
And yet, some still say he would’ve been a multiple time Superbowl champion and MVP had he have Andy Reid as his coach.
@chevy4x466
@chevy4x466 3 ай бұрын
Players can not overcome dysfunctional organizations.
@owenallenaz
@owenallenaz 4 ай бұрын
Its like a terrible mix of mediocre attitude combined with bad coaching. He always had that vibe like he'd rather be somewhere else, and it doesn't help that the cards were and are, a dumpster fire.
@plexz3958
@plexz3958 4 ай бұрын
As a cardinals fan I wanted Lamar that night. When they chose Rosen I knew it was doomed. That and every other decision that regime made from the hiring of wilks to the pick up of sam Bradford.
@CharlieRogers50
@CharlieRogers50 4 ай бұрын
The more I watch NFL football throughout the years the more I'm convinced QBs are a product of their environment. Obviously their individual talent and skill play a big part in their success as well, but the situation they inherit when they are drafted generally dictates their trajectory and overall success in the pros. These guys are incredibly young and immature at 21 or 22 years old, and those first couple of seasons really shape their expectations of themselves and of the NFL, and either boost their confidence in their own success or completely undermine it. Usually the latter.
@micnak3574
@micnak3574 9 күн бұрын
As a long time Cardinals fan, I was not happy that he was set up to fail his rookie year. But, in a grand scheme of things, his first year gave the team the first overall pick in the 2019 NFL draft. Kyler was then picked, and the Rosen Experiment came to an end. Although Kyler had a few bumps on the road in Arizona, the team today under Coach Gannon looks very promising.
@DarmaniFlame
@DarmaniFlame 4 ай бұрын
He literally doesn’t move in the pocket …. No way you survive in the nfl being that stagnant
@CharlieRogers50
@CharlieRogers50 4 ай бұрын
This happens literally every year, Alex. If we've taken nothing else away from Hard Knocks it's that being a coach or GM in the NFL is a lot of work but it's not rocket science. They're throwing darts, as are the rest of us.
@jakesnake2354
@jakesnake2354 4 ай бұрын
Missed you brotha. LFG
@AlexRollinsNFL
@AlexRollinsNFL 3 ай бұрын
Thanks brother!
@judyhouy5578
@judyhouy5578 2 ай бұрын
@@AlexRollinsNFLwho was a bigger bust, Ryan Leaf or Rosen?
@steveneil7190
@steveneil7190 2 ай бұрын
Oh Rosen 😢
@earlmcmanus194
@earlmcmanus194 4 ай бұрын
Imagine having a HOF receiver schemed for lay ups but you turn him down twice.
@SingtheSorrow22
@SingtheSorrow22 4 ай бұрын
Reminds me of jimmy clausen. Both were too arrogant for their own good, both failed their respective teams, and both were replaced by qbs drafted number 1 overall the following year. Jimmy wouldn’t even give Cam his #2 jersey 😂
@Eidenhoek
@Eidenhoek 4 ай бұрын
*Tom Brady-esque pocket passer *Immobile in the pocket Pick one.
@symptomofsouls
@symptomofsouls 4 ай бұрын
Brady had that psychic pocket awareness he teleported in the pocket
@Eidenhoek
@Eidenhoek 4 ай бұрын
@@symptomofsouls Right, he manipulated the pocket and moved within it. So if you're immobile in it, Tom Brady you are *not*. I consider Brady the ultimate prototype of a pocket passer. Didn't have a *crazy* arm, didn't have scramblybamblies (though he *could* physically scramble). Just murdered people from the pocket with the right reads.
@heavylobster4339
@heavylobster4339 2 ай бұрын
@@Eidenhoek Brady's pocket mobility was the epitome of "work smarter, not harder."
@3lanksp_ce
@3lanksp_ce 4 ай бұрын
If I was a GM or Coach who was drafting a first-round QB. I would want to see him play Madden on at least All-Pro, in not All-Madden. I'm 100% serious.
@travellerandwriter
@travellerandwriter 4 ай бұрын
no reason why he couldn’t be coached up except that he was unteachable
@andrewfung9340
@andrewfung9340 4 ай бұрын
All these teams were too busy trying to look for the next Manning and Brady in those years when they should’ve just drafted a guy that can just make plays
@ThePadi94
@ThePadi94 4 ай бұрын
His arrogance was his downfall!
@sithlord7m
@sithlord7m 2 ай бұрын
Rosen just catching strays in 2024 XD
@lordtryforce
@lordtryforce 4 ай бұрын
This is a domino effect from poor management/coaching, suspension, bad luck, retirement, team health/morale, and Rosen's experience/confidence. 2017 to 2019 I can only talk about the Cardinals part of story from what I noticed/remembered. 2017 draft- Cardinals were planning to draft Mahomes. Chiefs moving up to take him shocked them. Big reason Keim (GM) moved up in 2018 for QB because he regret not moving up in 2017 draft. In a Mahomes interview he talked about the draft. He told Chiefs if they want him they have move up cause he not getting pass #13 pick (Cards). 2017 season- Carson Palmer season ending injury, team injuries, Bruce Arians health problems, mediocre season 2018 offseason- Palmer & Arians unexpected retirement. Cardinals had no head coach or QBs under contract. Interviewed alot of coaches hired a coach with no head coach experience (8th choice iirc). Spent most off season pursuing Kirk Cousins Cards failed then settled for trash....er Sam Bradford. Also signed a bad backup 2018 draft- Rosen. Only 2 players from draft were good. 2018 post draft- Cardinals GM Keim get DUI and gets suspended (should've been fired). 2018 OTAs, training camp, preseason- No GM, injuries, and a new system for offense/defense with a personnel that didn't match system. Divided club house team Bradford/Rosen. 2018 season- This is the worst Cardinals team I ever seen in 40+ years of watching them. Clueless head Coach that didn't know what he was doing. An offense Coordinator running a predictable offense (got fired quick). An offensive line that couldn't block anybody. Poor tackling Swiss cheese defense that gave up huge play for everybody. Even backups can have a career day. 2019- All coaches fired. Keim hired Kingsbury to develop Rosen and even hired Aaron Rodger's former coach who developed him. All off season until Draft both Keim/Kingsbury said Rosen is their QB even though rumors said otherwise. Rosen was blindsided as he was traded to another bad situation with Dolphins. My opinion on Rosen. He shown some flashes were he could've developed into a decent starter or good backup. He really needed to sit and learn from a veteran starting QB. If Carson Palmer didn't retire Rosen career may have been different. If Bruce Arians didn't retire I think he could have developed Rosen too.
@MoetheBossPlayer
@MoetheBossPlayer 4 ай бұрын
He had options to go to the Canadian Football League 😂 and have a Career and XFL and USFL are looking for Quarterbacks.
@kbushfm
@kbushfm 4 ай бұрын
The Cardinals would have massively botched the development of Lamar Jackson, it's definitely not as easy as just saying that if Lamar had been the pick at 10 the Cardinals would have the same player the Ravens do
@billquantrill4960
@billquantrill4960 4 ай бұрын
What development? Lamar still can't read a defense and throws into triple fucking coverage with the AFC Championship on the line! Lol.
@kbushfm
@kbushfm 4 ай бұрын
@@billquantrill4960 He assumed that the blatant PI by the Chiefs might get called. He should know the Chiefs get their own special set of rules.
@billquantrill4960
@billquantrill4960 4 ай бұрын
@@kbushfm Weak cope, kid. Lol. #notevenaqb
@kbushfm
@kbushfm 4 ай бұрын
@@billquantrill4960 it's a 'weak cope' until it happens to your team. The problem is that Lamar's TE isn't dating a pop star. No money in the Ravens making the SB. The chiefs also go from committing the most offensive penalties in the league in the regular season to suddenly having no calls against them in the playoffs. Every year.
@billquantrill4960
@billquantrill4960 4 ай бұрын
@@kbushfm Dude, the clown show Ravens always shit the bed in the post season. I realize Baltimore is the 3rd world and all, but the league isn't keeping you down, bro. Lmao.
@Juzreg
@Juzreg 4 ай бұрын
Honestly I always wonder what would’ve happened if Arizona took Nick Bosa that year
@nickniehaus1763
@nickniehaus1763 4 ай бұрын
He didn’t care or take it seriously, that’s it.
@AHall
@AHall 4 ай бұрын
🔥
@brettfavreify
@brettfavreify 4 ай бұрын
Makes me wonder if his career turns out differently if a patient team puts him on the Aaron Rodgers-Jordan Love plan and he watches and learns for three years.
@geezyeskabante
@geezyeskabante 4 ай бұрын
How much blame do we put on the cardinals organization? Cardinals ended up getting Kyler, and players like Budda. We as nfl fans seen so many teams improve but we have NEVER taken the cardinals serious at all. We have seen front offices be nothing but help to the team or the number one detriment. Bengals, Miami, Houston, Ravens, and even more teams got it right. Not in one season, but by consistently making good choices.
@wademyers9698
@wademyers9698 3 ай бұрын
Rosen was the first QB i missed on, i love to brag about being able to spot a great QB, but man did i miss bad on him. Its hard to believe he would be that bad. But man it was like watching a train wreck you couldnt look away from.
@redt7452
@redt7452 4 ай бұрын
Rosen absolutely had potential but everyone should’ve seen the writing on the walls when the Cardinals drafted him. It was a wrap after that sadly
@bear1830
@bear1830 4 ай бұрын
I had the patriots defense that night and won because of it 😂
@humanbeing2420
@humanbeing2420 2 ай бұрын
The ESPN interview with him before the NFL draft is revealing. The guy just oozed douchebaggery. Couldn't make it through a sentence without saying something stupid and off-putting.
@Zay-i1l
@Zay-i1l 2 ай бұрын
Yea he was a chad but he might’ve been good if he played for better teams
@Valkyrae2__
@Valkyrae2__ 4 ай бұрын
The goat
@tdog1983-v6c
@tdog1983-v6c 4 ай бұрын
Can u imagine if Kyler didn’t come along
@Dphonn
@Dphonn 4 ай бұрын
lol all these teams that passed on Lamar
@maskedman5657
@maskedman5657 4 ай бұрын
I always look at it like this. Its all location. If Rose. Got drafted to the Eagles or GB. He would have been better because they had better coaching
@ADUSN
@ADUSN 4 ай бұрын
Noone ever talks about this. Like with fields being in a horrendous situation or Mahomes going into literally the perfect situation.
@Cbblair
@Cbblair 4 ай бұрын
Hypothetically, yes, but Rosen also had a huge ego problem that ultimately made him unrosterable even as a backup where he could learn behind a veteran QB.
@real_blackmamba8665
@real_blackmamba8665 4 ай бұрын
I thought he would’ve made an immediate impact in the league
@mroverdose14
@mroverdose14 4 ай бұрын
Paradigm shift really......Goff, Tua, Prudy 2 of the 3 were in Championship games all playoff QBs. Too many times evaluators look at what a player can do and than they look what they think they can do as a stronger indicator of the players talents.
@AlexRollinsNFL
@AlexRollinsNFL 3 ай бұрын
Fair point! Although I'd say Goff and Tua are just about the only 2. Purdy I'd consider a guy who can move
@lebronjericho6008
@lebronjericho6008 4 ай бұрын
Aaron rodgers if he wasn’t good at american football
@addster124
@addster124 4 ай бұрын
Qbs dont bave to run around but you have to move around in the pocket like brady and peyton do
@AlexRollinsNFL
@AlexRollinsNFL 3 ай бұрын
That's my point, I think those type of QBs are pretty much extinct
@addster124
@addster124 3 ай бұрын
@AlexRollinsNFL in your opinion, what do you think has happened in the high school or college level to cause the extinction?
@pigdroppings
@pigdroppings 3 ай бұрын
Rosen was with 7 teams....he was a bust on all of them... ..Rosen was a bust because of Rosen BUT, 70% of 1st round NFL QB picks are busts since 2010. So, Rosen is with the great majority.
@sober041978
@sober041978 Ай бұрын
Why bad music? Kept expecting to hear "your call is important to us...." Turned it off even though I was interested.
@vsauce4678
@vsauce4678 4 ай бұрын
I remember how awful him and Darnolds tape was and just laughing while everyone hyped them.
@baxatakbaxatak2014
@baxatakbaxatak2014 4 ай бұрын
What rise?
@AlexRollinsNFL
@AlexRollinsNFL 3 ай бұрын
In college
@fabianbuserell8609
@fabianbuserell8609 4 ай бұрын
Had a bad situation, bad reputation and bad management. If u fall from grace in the NFL u done for. There is essentially no coming back.
@SonnyLando
@SonnyLando 4 ай бұрын
The system and coach were his downfall
@TICATNUMBER16
@TICATNUMBER16 4 ай бұрын
screw seatgeek man. ticket companies are the reason concerts and events are so expensive now
@thejuceisloose
@thejuceisloose 4 ай бұрын
Bro wasn't handsome enough to be that confident fr
@AlexRollinsNFL
@AlexRollinsNFL 3 ай бұрын
😂😂
@eugenepoon
@eugenepoon 4 ай бұрын
It can't be that much on the Cardinals when he couldn't even make it as a third stringer for SF
@nicholaskling2425
@nicholaskling2425 3 ай бұрын
I think you’re trying to see more than what’s there with the Mahommes narrative. I think he was simply a bad QB with a low ceiling and an inability to get along with his teammates. He wasn’t good enough to start and he was too toxic in the locker room to hold down a backup job
@WaffleHouseNightshiftManager
@WaffleHouseNightshiftManager 4 ай бұрын
If even Kyle Shanahan can't make you ook even half decent, there's an issue...
@spencerme3486
@spencerme3486 4 ай бұрын
Getting weird? WTF does that even mean?
@TravisLA89
@TravisLA89 4 ай бұрын
he has ryan leaf syndrome or ego killer syndrome
@eugenechurch6135
@eugenechurch6135 4 ай бұрын
As a pats fan... this is drake maye...
@zormageddon
@zormageddon 4 ай бұрын
As a Pats fan, I disagree. Drake has a much higher ceiling and more athleticism.
@fabiancastaneda3878
@fabiancastaneda3878 4 ай бұрын
Kyler Murray is next
@Acoolyoutubename
@Acoolyoutubename 3 ай бұрын
people wanna blame the situation in az. but kyler went into an even more dismantled team the very next year n thrived. sometimes u just suck.
@ChristopherMosley-dj3kt
@ChristopherMosley-dj3kt 4 ай бұрын
Where you end up at matters a lot in your success or failure. This was definitely the case with Rosen. Also he doesnt need football. As far as making a living it's not even his best option. Truthfully the bloodlines he comes from probably see NFL quarterback as beneath them as far as making a living goes so i wonder how committed he would be when things got tough. He's NEVER experienced adversity in his life
@germanicusternus1982
@germanicusternus1982 4 ай бұрын
Your conclusion is whack. Rosen failed because his supposed strength, processing, was a huge weakness, not because scrambling is a necessity. Justin Fields failed for the same reason as Rosen, not being able to read coverages. Kirk Cousins is a statue. Justin Herbert chooses to be a statue. So does Dak. Mayfield is a terrible scrambler and should do it less. Scrambling is not a necessity at all.
@httrprod
@httrprod 4 ай бұрын
Saying Mayfield is a terrible scrambler is hilarious and that Dak is a statue. Even though I agree with the rest of the comment
@listenowrecords
@listenowrecords 2 ай бұрын
Is it his fault that he had playground d coaches and sub par talent. ? That’s my problem with the NFL no development for players. That’s why baseball is the better sport. Baseball Hockey Baskerball have a minor league you can develop in😮
@ACE-700
@ACE-700 4 ай бұрын
Bust
@mwatts6755
@mwatts6755 4 ай бұрын
I watched his entire AZ Cardinals career. He was AWFUL
@WWE2KUNIVERSEELITE
@WWE2KUNIVERSEELITE 4 ай бұрын
The moment he went to Arizona I knew he just wasnt a fit.
@billjenkins2503
@billjenkins2503 4 ай бұрын
How's your property taxes?
@ledzeppy7507
@ledzeppy7507 3 ай бұрын
Not only did he suck as a QB. He was also know to be an outrageous a-hole.
@cam4001
@cam4001 2 ай бұрын
i’m not gonna lie i thought you were gonna tell a story about the downfall of josh rosen and all you did was just bore me with game film and route concepts the entire time
@GitzenShiggles
@GitzenShiggles 4 ай бұрын
Who?
@Akkbar21
@Akkbar21 4 ай бұрын
Josh Rosen simply couldn’t perform at the pro level. Nothing special about it.
@YouMissedBro
@YouMissedBro 3 ай бұрын
PAC12 QUARTERBACKS CANT BALL!
@BrandDone6709
@BrandDone6709 4 ай бұрын
Peak offseason boredom
@3serio
@3serio 4 ай бұрын
Bro please quit saying Eli Manning
@DGarrettDG
@DGarrettDG 3 ай бұрын
there's an obvious racial bias aspect where guys like him get automatically compared to Tom Brady. even if they have objective flaws in that style of play
@DGarrettDG
@DGarrettDG 3 ай бұрын
not to mention overlooking his attitude problems and passing on Lamar
@MrSnotrock3t
@MrSnotrock3t 4 ай бұрын
oh God... you really had to make this video. Such pain.
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