The Rise & Fall Of Fantastic Daily - Inside A Mind

[@wfjhDUI]

Fake "top X" lists channel that goes off the rails is such a brilliant premise. I love this.

[@JanathanTran]

I mean Everyman Hybrid started out as a work out and healthy living channel

[@SnakeEyesOfficial42]

Like HtB.

[@frankskabapolis3504]

how did you get 2 top comments lmfao 👏👏

[@wfjhDUI]

​@@frankskabapolis3504 Thanks but honestly idk. I caught the vid early in my feed and just commented with the three major thoughts that came to mind. Two of my comments went to the top but one of my comments has only a single upvote from myself, lol, and I still think that one is the best. :-P

[@RabaBoem]

i know!!! i am sophie pulled off the "fake youtube channel" thing wonderfully

[@lex117]

i'm literally heartbroken about that rebrand failing-- i would DIE for a channel that just discusses the anatomy of hoaxes and how they were pulled off and modern art installations. i would have eaten that UP

[@TheRonvik]

There are multiple channels doing that, for scams to, if you want to know about how scams work n such, go to Jim Browning, hoaxes... I dont know, sadly, but honestly, I would defo do the same

[@trey6883]

Honestly, I think the Night Mind/Inside a Mind/ReignBot style channels have the exact audiences that would totally enjoy something like that. In a way, it’s sort of what they do.

[@unicorn1poop]

@@trey6883 Yeah I am hearing this and ready to go check out his channel then remembered it doesnt exist

[@cantbehelped]

Me too, I am big sad

[@justagirpup]

Captain dissolution does this....

[@LowIntSpecimen]

Well, at least he got confirmation that he's a good actor and filmmaker, considering he fooled so many people.

[@jesusramirezromo2037]

I mean These pepole fall for granny UFO and bigfoot videos

[@jesterssketchbook]

the fact they were outraged that black eyed kids wasnt real :D

[@chillcloud107]

Ikr

[@kaydubsthekoifish]

@@jesterssketchbook But still, that's a really good legend... As scary as it is, it might even be one of my favourites.

[@bito2041]

Well, considering the people he fooled were sub 50 iq manchildren it's not that impressive. (I'm exaggerating, but still).

[@Twisterfoot]

i’m sorry but “black eyed kids getting arrested” is the funniest possible direction you could take a black eyed kids story.

[@jabby6709]

police: HANDS UP YOU'RE UNDER ARREST black eyed children: * screams * police: _WHAT THE FUCK_

[@cr3at0rhuhh]

@@jabby6709 pft

[@wadespencer3623]

It's like having Slenderman get arrested. Or that one comic panel with Thanos getting shoved into a police car...

[@uilsoum875]

oi mate, you got a loicense for those eyes?

[@Tinlion09]

Siren Head, hands cuffed behind his back, leaned up against the hood of a police car. "THIS IS AN EMERGENCY NOTIFICATION. THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HAS ISSUED A _RACIST COP WARNING_ IN YOUR AREA"

[@XlittleXdrummerXgirl]

"But now that he reached out, [the children] won't leave him alone" Ah yes, parenthood, the real horror

[@lolucorn1]

@your average Jojofan back in the basement timmy. Your sunlight time is out

[@ameliadryden8063]

@Plague Doctor listen to your papa timmy

[@Ch3zball]

@Mono With Drip timmy ill go get some milk

[@maxy6749]

@Pringle *timmy I need to go get some milk see you in [REDACTED] years!*

[@thegooddoctor3182]

"WHY DID YOU TAKE DOWN THAT GUY'S SITE?!" ... because he was illegally sharing personal information and promoting violence?

[@jamesromano9967]

well yeah,but it was funny

[@carcharchin_rs]

James Romano ah yes, being doxxed and be potentiomally kidnapped or worse murdered is very funny, haha.

[@tygoldie1845]

It’s not illegal to dox someone. It is when you encourage harm or promote it

[@damienthonk1506]

@@carcharchin_rs people who are doxed are usually never harmed.

[@joechristo2]

@@damienthonk1506 You are a troll

[@SirAsdf]

This reminded me of what happened to the director of Cannibal Holocaust, where the audience were so convinced that what they were watching was real that the director went to court on murder charges and had to bring out the actors to show he hadn't actually killed anyone

[@pineconerudy1519]

Honestly, he should have been charged for animal abuse since they showed the characters killing a live turtle and eating it on camera.

[@zach2752]

At least five animals were really killed for the production. Still a fucked film.

[@thotrot8262]

didn’t he abuse his actors though?? i can’t remember exactly but honestly even if he did actually murder the actors, that wouldn’t have been the worst thing to have happened on that set.

[@SirAsdf]

@@pineconerudy1519 welcome to the world of 70s-80s Italian Exploitation movies

[@mainsource8030]

@@SirAsdf lets cancel him! (kidding)

[@sapphirek5244]

Anyways to all the people who think it’s justified because these people wanted to believe it was real: These are adults who committed crime, yes crime, because they believed in a story that was fake. Which wasn’t really supported by anything. There were KZbin videos and one article that only references the KZbin channel. No reports from the police who supposedly arrested black eyed children, not a huge archive of people with videos of the same thing in other locations. Adults. Who. Committed. A. CRIME. for THAT.

[@the-engneer]

Fantastic Daily is one of them technically. He kept talking about his wife possibly losing her baby because of his actions, but he left that out conveniently. There's a whole other side to this story he isn't telling, and it's messed up of him because a lot of people including myself were more concerned for his family, and I never even believed in the paranormal aspect of it

[@wheretfisalaska]

@@the-engneer yes, Fantastic Daily was wrong for introducing a plot to his series. Let's dox him.

[@foxbuns]

im going to argue that anyone that wholeheartedly believed in it, enough to commit crimes, were probably suffering from delusions (and paranoia and a host of other mental illness symptoms). they would not have believed any proof to the contrary as proof at all. if you asked them why there is no police report if it really happened, theyd wave that logic away with "of course theres no record, its a coverup". an unwell mind will make any reason to not admit its wrong.

[@ciangriffin9630]

@serenity1378 not even somewhat. death threats are never justified. people who defend it are completely disgusting people.

[@kellynine7438]

This is a shame, this guy would kick ass in the SCP community.

[@cinnamoon423]

Right? If there was a list on how to make a good scp story this dude would fill out all the boxes. Damn shame. That community would of adored him.

[@UlshaRS]

He could have. He acknowledge the ARG community, which was taking off at that time. He behaved in an unethical manner and paid for it because he wanted exposure. The narrative sounded interesting but he crossed a line trying to find an audience and lost those who should have been his real base. He chose poorly.

[@funnimanexe]

You are so right

[@yor1ck_dead]

agreed

[@asukalangleysoryu6695]

@@UlshaRS Yes, well, I guess we can all agree that marketing your ARG to batshit insane conspiracy nutjobs is a bad idea. Unethical, though? Maybe. I just can't help but feel like it's their own fault for believing it. In my opinion ARG communities are super boring. Everyone knows it's a game and most often it's just a bunch of math nerds solving some encryption algorithm. Not this one. This one was real and raw. I doubt I would have believed this story though. Don't know, too bad I never caught it before.

[@Handlelesswithme]

Maybe the real black-eyed kids were the friends we made along the way

[@pakdhenar]

id cry if thats the case

[@WhatIsMyLif3]

@@pakdhenar Lmao

[@diarrheanator1379]

I'm done seeing this comment literally killed my lungs🤣

[@aidanmcferris9348]

ROFLMFAO!!!!

[@yeoldegaymer1906]

LOL!

[@FAB1150]

I can't imagine how the IMDB vandalizing could look like. "He sucks because he's too good at acting!"

[@ssfbob456]

"He was so good that I thought it was real! How dare he?!"

[@evenintx3vanneel670]

@@ssfbob456 well I am a believer of the paranormal, and yeah it kinda sucks that he lied but I would never in my life, go to someone else's house hold just to ruin that person's life. Like I can understand stand the betrayal in it all and the hurt of being lied to, I use to have friends that would tell me all stories that sound to good to be true but only the learn that it was bull sh*t , so yeah let's just say there are some friends that will be getting a call back but as for the lying ones no call backs.

[@umcThunder72]

@@evenintx3vanneel670 ok look any logical person should be able to figure out that there is no paranormal stuff and it was obviously acting.

[@gentlemanvaultboy8671]

@@umcThunder72 Any logical person should be able to figure out that if you come to true believers with proof you claim to be real and get them invested in it they're not gonna applaud your genius when you reveal you faked it all for youtube fame. He's lucky he picked black eyed kids, if he'd done this with a major religion his life might have actually been in danger.

[@umcThunder72]

@@gentlemanvaultboy8671 or you know people could just be smart about shit and figure out the intentions behind it before getting all pissed over a fucking web series

[@RelativelyBest]

So, basically, the lesson I learned from this was: Don't make fake paranormal stuff _specifically_ for people who actually take paranormal stuff totally seriously. Because they'll get upset. Because cognitive dissonance is an actual thing. Good to know.

[@jabby6709]

nah fuck that i'm gonna make an arg to fool the paranormal community now cause it seems like fun

[@ElloFantasy]

@@jabby6709 I would enjoy seeing that, just because I like ARGs and paranormal stuff, it wouldn't fool me, but I would be wholly entertained lol

[@the-engneer]

I didn't believe in the paranormal aspects, and was genuinely concerned for his family and their well being. It's insanely shitty how bad he is lying in this video and playing the victim. Imagine watching a channel about a guy so obsessed with the paranormal that his pregnant wife has to leave the property because he's playing weird noises on a loudspeaker for 4 days straight. That is what we all watched, but he didn't mention any of that. He kept spinning this narrative that he was so obsessed that he didn't care if it caused his wife to have a miscarriage, and a lot of people including myself were concerned with that and not the paranormal aspect, and to make things worse he only came clean about faking the videos, but never said anything about his families well being. The guys a piece of sh!t and I am almost certain he did make money off of this

[@the-engneer]

@@jabby6709 well don't get upset when you have crazy people threatening your life, because if you play stupid games you win stupid prizes. Let me know so I can tune in and watch

[@bloodyneptune]

...you were genuinely worried about his safety and the safety of his wife and children, but when you found out they weren't ever in danger, you're perfectly fine with his safety and the safety and his wife and children being actually put in danger? Like "play stupid games, win stupid prizes"? You know the "prizes" here were the potential safety of small children yeah? I don't believe for a second you were legit worried for his wife and little kuds safety if you found out it was a lie and immediately thought their safety was an appropriate price for his lie.

[@Criscuitt]

Those people who vandalized his wife's business really have a special place in hell waiting for them.

[@gaminggladiator06]

It’s just stupid that people would get that upset that they would try to dox him online and mess with their business’. It’s that sort of stuff that makes me want to hunt each people that did such terrible things to him and give them a heavy gut punch and a knee to the jaw. And i’m a pasifist, so you know something’s wrong with the world when the friendly peaceful guy wants to sock someone in the jaw.

[@RadiantBleu]

We dont want him

[@ninjabluefyre3815]

The SPECIAL hell!

[@fatalbert2055]

Imagine doing that over a fucking webseries

[@arielkagamine3782]

That is so sad that his wife also become a victim ;-;

[@toratio8547]

I get that he didn't choose his audience well, and the missteps. But Jesus Christ, releasing someone's home address and threatening to kill someone and their family because they made you think monsters were real is appalling. Being angry about being taken for a ride, sure. But I have no sympathy for people who threaten to kill.

[@isaiahromero9861]

They’re just looking for someone to blame for their own stupidity for falling for shit like this haha

[@tajuspikturna8097]

@@isaiahromero9861 thats literally whats happening, lower IQ results in having difficulty distinguishing fiction from reality

[@darkangel424cod]

@@isaiahromero9861 I feel bad for people who really believe this hard because they probably are not right in the head. Not condoning what some did at all just feel like that's the only way people can fall for it so hard and become so invested and end up lashing out in a very dangerous way. in the end It's sad, it was a great ARG, one where no one knew they were playing. I dont think theres been any others like that?

[@billyandrew]

@@isaiahromero9861 Exactly! The smarter they think they are the angrier they're likely to get. Some folk hate being hoisted by their own petard and rather than deal with their gullibility honestly and even laugh it off, their hurt, foolish and phoney pride indulges in blame transference.

[@billyandrew]

@@tajuspikturna8097 Incorrect. IQ has little to do with it and you are merely trying to reinforce your own incorrect belief and prejudice. Religion is another perfect example of people from all walks of life sharing a common delusion that has been programmed into them from birth. That's why I've always preferred research over rumour, hearsay or wishful thinking.

[@miffedakko9312]

"I can't believe the videos about ghost children with no eyes magically appearing on my porch was faked! I'm gonna dox this guy!"

[@vabvaab]

I mean he also copied videos and used people's stories without their permission but go off I guess.

[@toiletboy69]

@@vabvaab yeah, like that makes doxxing him any more justified.

[@PrestonK_Productions]

And yet we aren't allowed to make fun of the idea that some guy with a beard made people out of clay. Question: where do we draw the line? Edit: I get the picture you guys can shut up

[@whiteemerald_6802]

@@toiletboy69 He never said that it justified the doxxing. Learn to read well. Lawls!!! 😂😂😂

[@meisterband8603]

@@whiteemerald_6802 he said i mean if you ever atleast went to highschool you do know how to get data from missing evidence soo It heavily inplies it

[@main5045]

As soon as he said he didn't want to go to the ARG community I was like 'OH GOD THIS ISNT GOING TO END WELL'

[@diam_eli696]

“He fell out of love with the art” that makes me SO sad :(( I don’t ever want to stop loving the art that I’m making :///

[@piss7610]

right? Nothing scarier than mentally ill right-wing conspiracy theorists.

[@Chelsea1991FC]

I doubt it, he uses that excuse because he was outed and everyone would recognise his voice.

[@Goblin4Coin]

@@Chelsea1991FC I think that fear turned to a lack of love for what he did. Posting something could have felt dangerous because of these past experiences.

[@CommunicationsOfficer535]

you will

[@TheTrueNehme]

@@piss7610 way to make it political, you loon.

[@TimeBunny]

If it was children thinking it was real, you could forgive them, as kids are “dumb”; but it was grown ass adults who should’ve known better.

[@weimaj]

I agree to a certain threshold, in that the way the adults reacted was beyond infantile. I don't blame them for wanting to believe, I blame them for wanting to hurt a storyteller who ultimately did very little wrong.

[@somedesertdude1308]

@@redtukeguy4263 and that's wrong?

[@o.d.d.343]

@@somedesertdude1308 i guess hes saying that the existance of him Is close to none. I feel like there Is a god,Just not any that are in todays religion. Or that has been in any religion

[@conall9415]

I especially liked the "scientist". Ah yes, the scientific dicipline of studying monsters and making doohickeyes to destroy them. I bet this guy thought that Ghostbusters was a documentary.

[@LaurenWoz421]

I’m 37 and have worked alongside people aged 19-63.. I’ve found some 20-somethings are very mature, responsible and have great common sense while some 40-60’s can be immature, insecure and naive. It amazed me. I had assumed that you have common sense/ are responsible and secure by 30/40’s. It depends on the person, experiences, personality type. For example, I have seen a true crime channel run by a man in his 60’s, lie about facts on a case, say that he’s uncovered some “never before seen evidence”, openly ridicule the victims families and law enforcement and accuse innocent people of a SOLVED crime - and many not only believe it- they reach out to the district attorney and law enforcement with said “evidence”, harass the victims family and even threaten the innocent person’s life! All they’d have to do is look up the discovery for the facts on the case. But these adults take this one man’s word, stand behind him and take up for him. He doesn’t even live in the same country as the crime, admits he hasn’t read the discovery and doesn’t know U.S laws. It’s as if it’s a social experiment.. it would be interesting if the victim’s families weren’t being re-victimized over and over.

[@NightMind]

First: this was an excellent video. Absolutely top notch! Second: the funny thing is, Muto was right--this entire project WAS The Best Damn Thing to me and entirely in the line of projects I would praise... and was going to. It was on my scope for coverage consideration. ... but then the cannonballs from the paranormal community struck the side of that ship and nearly drowned Muto and real innocent people involved in FD, generating an actual horror show that any further publicity at the time would've made worse. This video by Inside A Mind is arriving well after the smoke cleared, which is exactly the time it needed. (And he's done a slam-dunk job!) Muto always does a great job. The problem with FD was that he did his job TOO well for an audience that had no idea this was even a form of storytelling, as Jamie pointed out. They weren't people who wanted to suspend their disbelief, they NEEDED to believe, period. When they found out FD was covert material from our realm, they got more than just a little mad and tried to burn an artist for one of the best modern performances on this platform to date. His mindset about what our crowd would think of this was on the mark, and he totally anticipated how much I'd have a ball celebrating the achievement of FD. What happened instead was a lesson that reminds us we're not all enlightened about this material on the internet, despite how much bigger the realm has become. The goal of unfiction and ARG is always to tell a damn good story while walking the tightrope between reality and the lie. But if we don't have small cases of "fiction flags" in our midst, we can get wrecked. Muto shouldn't have needed any fiction flags, because the entire premise was so ARG, so wonderfully, absurdly narrative that to buy it hook, line, and sinker, you'd have to be an idi--PARANORMAL ENTHUSIAST, YEAH, THERE WE GO! You'd have to be an unwavering paranormal enthusiast. Our crowd, we could see the strings on the puppets from a mile away. The Facebook conspiracy nuts? Not so much. It's been awhile since I've spoken to Muto, but all love to him and his family. And equally to you, Jamie, for a wonderful video! And to the rest of ya--remember the lessons learned here, and bear in mind that we're still a growing art form. One day, this will be well-known enough for people to get it and not try to burn down our lives for achievements, but until then, plan accordingly and think about any audience you might be broadcasting to.

[@chasek0746]

I love you night mind

[@monmon0946]

Or you'd just have to be an adult from the 60's 70's or 80's who simply doesn't have the awareness of just how easy it can be for any random person to fake things these days with only a camera and a few tricks, practical or special, let alone someone like FD. We're quite privileged, having grown up with most of these things (computers, internet, youtube, ARG, etc) in our laps. Also, you're not necessarily an idiot to believe in the paranormal which is most certainly what the implication of your comment was. Before you say "I was calling them idiots for believing in the ARG" while also simultaneously acknowledging that these people likely had no idea what an ARG even was and that they wanted something real? Something FD deliberately set out to deliver in spectacular fashion? They believed in his believable paranormal story but people believe in unverifiable and often outlandish things all the time, that doesn't make them an idiot. We cant even directly study or observe consciousness but we all just assume we're having a conscious experience. As far as observation and study goes our conscious experience is just as paranormal as ghosts or other widely experienced and unverifiable phenomena. All we can do is study individual parts that seem to lead to an emergent property that we all share. Before anyone suggests my last statement was proof that we are conscious, then I suppose all the people who congregate who have had paranormal experiences and can show evidence from numerous individual methods also have proof simply because they all share that experience? Wrong. Regardless, what makes them an idiot is the extent of their response. While justifiable, it was disproportionate, and I can see why even if you're an avid believer you ought to have at least some skepticism, FD was too good though, he drew them in. Its easy to see why they might view it as manipulative but personally I would have just been disappointed. I would have been able to easily understand what he was doing and why though but apparently these people weren't able to do that which is a shame since I also enjoyed FD's videos.

[@kanderson9396]

@@monmon0946 I want to second what Dysnomia of ruin is saying. I'm only 26 and have seen so many people my age and younger fall for this clear and obvious bullshit despite growing up with the internet. We should ALL know better, regardless of age. Thinking you are immune to modern methods of manipulation just because you are below a certain age is exactly how you end up being manipulated. You view yourself as invincible so you never realize when you're being duped. Remember what Garfield taught us, kids! You are not immune to propaganda!

[@TheAmusingOddities]

❤️love this

[@TheAmusingOddities]

@@monmon0946 maybe we should educate people properly and fund our educational systems so when someone comes across something like this they'd be able to understand that it's fictional. Fuck it why not also throw in free healthcare and free housing... Let's see what happens then...

[@andi1063]

Replace every single instance of “kids” with “peas” and this video becomes 100x funnier

[@daddymoose2009]

The mystery of the black eyed peas

[@Asian.Thomas]

@@ChaS4m those adobos.. those god damn adobos...

[@gamingchamp6728]

XD

[@jabby6709]

DAY 5: THE BLACK EYES PEAS ARE ON MY FRONT PORCH AND THEY WON'T LEAVE

[@MontgomeryandCo]

Black eyed peas mysteriously appeared on my door step at 3:00?!?1!?1!11?1!1?1!

[@gaminggladiator06]

I hate that when people started realizing his videos were a hoax, they just get all mad and start threatening him. All he was doing was entertaining people by making his videos seem so believable, he didn’t deserve all that. Honestly, how thick-headed does someone have to be if they find out they were innocently pranked and their first reaction is to want to slit the guys throat! Edit: there i fixed it!

[@evol5765]

*thick-headed

[@Tigguris]

@@evol5765 asshole move, but you made me laugh

[@mimegaming3444]

@@evol5765 fucking beat me to it lol

[@Bamburfix]

True

[@chronon8782]

imagine beliving it at 50 y/o lol

[@dakod6822]

Imagine midlle age adults being angry and doxxing a family because they we're fooled into believing ghosts are real

[@cormey8772]

BrUh

[@nathan.cremsiffino]

I was working on a video and now I'm watching this

[@bluemonkey5005]

eat your cereal

[@dakod6822]

@@bluemonkey5005 bruh the talentless cult is in every corner of the internet

[@coziclair]

plus sending death threats. my brain can barely fathom this. the gullibility and PRIDE of these people is through the roof.

[@kayundae4411]

As someone who used to be part of the “paranormal community” it sucks how they treated the idea. Honestly the idea of a fake top ten and the ‘black eyed kids’ is a really awesome idea I would’ve loved to have seen more of. I’m very skeptical of the paranormal, I’ve not seen or felt anything to make me believe it yet, however the idea of the paranormal is fun. Like, I know all ‘ghost hunting’ reality tv is fake as fuck, but I like the history and the entertainment of watching grown ass adults get scared from a ‘whisper’. I’m sad he fell out of love with his work as it was a really fun idea, hopefully he finds something else to craft his ideas.

[@theredacted2383]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmjFnaane96Zg7c

[@addy225]

I agree!!!!! Like honestly I wanna bidge this is so entertaining and not believe a thing.

[@Equipthepan]

Lmao gullible

[@animarblemarblerace9232]

I enjoy things like that even if i know its fake

[@addy225]

@@animarblemarblerace9232 yeah exactly

[@carnelianjester]

Jeez this whole thing is genuinely upsetting. I was subscribed to FD and this whole thing played out when I was like...13 or 14 and even I knew it was a story. FD and creepypastas were my gateway into loving ARGs and unreality stories as a whole. I'm sad to see he got ruined by adults who didn't even take their own "don't believe everything you see on the internet" speech as solid advice.

[@flamingbunnyrabbits]

The sad thing is that the crowd he was looking for WAS the ARG community, they're always thirsty for a drama about monsters and terror. I think that might be partially what turned people off from the channel is that since he didn't market it to the actual target audience, it gives off the vibe of wanting to shock and trick an unsuspecting audience.

[@planejoe5263]

I research conspiracies in my free time, and when I go through periods of burnout after looking into heavy or unsettling topics, I like to delve into paranormal channels. I believe in the supernatural, but I'm aware that most of the 'evidence' on sites like this is phoney, and that I would have no way of verifying the more convincing video clips anyway. I enjoyed a few of Fantastic Daily's videos for what they were, and moved on. The types of people that comment on videos like Fantastic Daily's are generally well-meaning enthusiasts. The trouble is, they feed off of each others' enthusiasm in echo chambers, which leads to confirmation bias, and attention seeking. When reality comes crashing in - in this case a film maker looking to exploit their intense enthusiasm - the reaction is a lot of hurt fee-fees, and lots of fragile egos that want to deflect their embarrassment by putting all the blame on Fantastic Daily. Personally, I think Fantastic Daily probably had to have some idea that he was playing with fire, but he did it anyway - and in a way, I'm glad that he did it. The people he took for a ride certainly needed a dose of reality, and if a few of them learnt not to trust strangers on the internet, that's a good thing.

[@jervey123]

Yeah, i mean, any functioning adult would see a monster attack as a red flag that what they are watching is fake... Sadly these babies aren't that, the moment he saw that they actually beleive all that, he could've preempted it with a disclaimer or something, but then again hindsight is always 20/20

[@BongRipBing]

Just saying, "Fantastic Daily and the Black Eyed Kids" can almost work for a sweet band name..!

[@brianisme6498]

Almost

[@jzeon1]

@@brianisme6498 not quite, but almost

[@madcircle7311]

well seems like the wrong generation to name a band that

[@tootallforyou112]

@@madcircle7311 ill go back in time and do it

[@moviestargf]

Madcircle why???

[@AyBee9725]

You know who learned from this? The people who created the Iamsophie ARG. They targeted the commentary channel community and struck notoriety gold.

[@fruitygarlic3601]

Too well. The most disturbing thing about that series was how easily commentary community viewers were swayed into harassing who they thought was a real person. Great marketing by the Sophie team.

[@josephmother386]

Args are sick

[@Aureline_]

@@fruitygarlic3601 I remember a few commentary channels acknowledging where it was going and playing along and that was great

[@longwaydown6959]

Your name the "Fruity Garlic" name, does it relate to the story of the woman from California who was some form of like "Biological Bomb"? If I am remembering correctly, it had something to do with the nurses and doctors attempting to treat her all falling to some mysterious illness, stating that the only thing that was common amongst their experiences was that there was a smell of like "Fruity Garlic"?

[@carl.5756]

@@josephmother386 sometimes- /sometimes/

[@chip5892]

Wait, children with no eyes that magically appear and disappear aren’t real? Huh.

[@metronicmagician1816]

Don’t forget this is a community that lives fully within the “supernatural exists.” They are people that when watching these videos fully believe that the person posting is doing so for the want to spread the truth, and the want to keep people safe. They aren’t thinking this as fiction built for the sake of fiction, but rather fiction built for the sake of duping people because they as a community have had that happen to them constantly.

[@euclideanspace2573]

They also think bigfoot, ghosts, and the tooth fairy is real. You can invent some universe consuming dyson singularity and they will believe it.

[@tkmiller_author]

@@euclideanspace2573 what do vacuum cleaners have to do with this? 😉

[@euclideanspace2573]

@@tkmiller_author The dyson here refers to a "dyson sphere", and the word dyson basically means suction, yeah I know a company took it for their expensive hairdryers and vacuum cleaners. Just like Tesla, he is a person, and there's various apparatuses named after him (Tesla Coil), however some drug user took it and branded his expensive electric vehicles under it.

[@DelilahDarling17]

​@@euclideanspace2573 The thing is, I (somewhat) believe in Cryptids and ghosts. Not a firm "they're real and it's a fact," but completely open to the possibility. I even want to become a paranormal investigator just to see if I could get any sort of huge evidence for *myself, in real life, not over the internet,* to determine my internal questions. However, no matter what evidence and experience I might ever go through, I'll still always be a huge skeptic. I'd say these are the type of people who would immediately believe the plate that fell off of their table is a ghost. Not try to put any scientific logic behind it at all at first, just jump to the "it's a ghost" conclusion. No questions asked. We all have our own beliefs, and obviously, people need to respect that. However, there's a line to be crossed. In my opinion, there's a huge difference between simply having a certain spiritual belief, and being completely gullible. These people not only *immediately* bought into FD's story, they also spread his private information that could have gotten him in real danger just because they were angry. *That's* fucked up, irresponsible, and blatantly idiotic. From what I understand, their *actions* were the problem, not their beliefs in the paranormal. Just because somebody believes in something you don't, doesn't automatically mean they're a shitty human being who make stupid and hurtful decisions like the people who doxxed FD. You could firmly believe in the paranormal, yet still be way different from those people who *easily* bought into this story and were angry that it ended up to be fake. That doxxing could have seriously gotten him in real danger, and many people (no matter their beliefs), seem to get off on putting others in danger for the smallest of reasons.

[@Jeremyhughes86]

i remember his black eyed kids stuff and for about 5 minutes he had me, then I watched the video again and the skeptic in me as I rewatched said. "he just gave a neighborhood kid 20 bucks."

[@15yearoldartist2]

I like to think that the kid tried bargaining for more

[@koDaffi]

More?? Shit 20 was too much, all the kid did was stand on his porch for like 30 seconds. I figured 10 tops.

Jeremy Hughes You must be extremely proud.

[@mochisinclair8675]

Same thing but i just thought he paid his nephews to act creepy.

[@GymRat-7192]

Honestly, if he ever decides to make more and doing a bit of research, he could easily become one of the legends in the ARG community

[@the-engneer]

The guys a dirtbag. He lied about an insane amount in this video. There are a lot of aspects to this he didn't mention because he knows the horrible things he did. He asked for what he got believe me. I saw it myself

[@GymRat-7192]

@@the-engneer? What kind of stuff?

[@randomuser5443]

@@the-engneer Take it you ate his onion

[@the-engneer]

@@randomuser5443 If you think it's okay to lie about having a pregnant wife giving a miss carriage, and it's your fault than hey good for you. You're a shotty person like Fantastic Daily

[@snowflakeee]

@@the-engneer u ever heard of fictions or films told from the first person view?

[@ashadeofblue6815]

basically nosleep but the comenters were not roleplaying

[@znkhucast4447]

Don't stay safe OP

[@kennyyuliandrika7162]

Wait? I should be do rp at nosleep?

[@nopenopenope8844]

@@kennyyuliandrika7162 i think they mean more of playing along, giving advice to the storytellers and whatnot

[@_silience]

@@nopenopenope8844 Yeah, that's basically it. Everyone knows that they're just stories too so it's fun.

[@harmlesshawk1794]

@@_silience If only /r/nosleep's quality could be considered fun.

[@mr.skinner5850]

i lost a braincell trying to figure out how people actually believed that children with no eyes would magically appear on your doorstep

[@goddessofstealth2417]

yeah people back then were dumber, man

[@zirus5191]

@@goddessofstealth2417 "back then"...it's not that old, people are still dumb😂

[@goddessofstealth2417]

@@zirus5191 well yeah you have a point

[@yourintrusivethoughts]

Not just that but believing that “supernatural” beings can get arrested by a middle aged cop and think that’s real 😂😂 (mostly laughing because imagine kids with no eyes get handcuffed and read their Miranda Rights from a cop) 😂

[@noli915]

@@goddessofstealth2417 "Back then" 2020 anti corona and people who think earth is flat but its a Pokémon ball...

[@ryansatoshi7932]

Sad how "Rational Thinker" couldn't rationalize the implications of sending death threats.

[@angelitatavaresspindola813]

*_B R U H_*

[@thenateshow4371]

BROH

[@medes5597]

No, that's just how they made that dude anonymous. The screenshots aren't the real screenshots dude.

[@jarofarts6040]

@@medes5597 Oh really? I had no idea, thank you for informing us all of something we already knew :)

[@Spider8Crak]

@@jarofarts6040 Clearly Kai De Guzman didn't.

[@ZAGAD-i2x]

This guy is not just a talented film maker but he's also a talented writer He should produce a whole movie

[@jwp999999]

This will follow him around forever

[@Lee-wb5yx]

@@jwp999999 might aswell take advantage of it, he probably can make an immersive story out of this

[@raksh9]

Imagine if he teamed up with Local 58 / Kris Straub. The stories!

[@flaetsbnort]

Right? If he had marketed his story normally instead of taking advantadge of 'weak' journalists, he'd be a big name in the genre right now.

[@pathamilton1961]

It's funny how dumb people are people are really giving death threats to a guy who just wanted to make a story people should have known it was fake from the beginning

[@ss_sunflower5090]

I remember I came across this channel awhile ago and even I saw it was fake. I enjoyed watching the effort put into it though. It was enjoyable. I hate how people took this though. He didn't deserve this to fall the way it did

[@criticastrike]

If it was ARG community, people would not be that mad since people know it's based in fake story but act like it's real to enjoy the story. But in paranormal community there are some people who really believe ghosts are real, like inside a mind told in video. Kinda sad it went like this though.

[@maiumisu]

_It really is. Still in disbelief on how stupid some people are..._

[@jesusramirezromo2037]

@@criticastrike I remember in his TSV videos He CONSTANTLY had to remind pepole what an ARG was, since alot of his viewers tougth it was real in amoter dimenssion

[@TGyaru_]

I watch his video and I know it fake because I know about fake monsters but I enjoyed it

[@Szajenn]

Imagine ruining someone's life for making entertaining content on KZbin

[@foolycool5420]

The man constantly went on live stream and belittled his fans and talked shit on other people. I was there for most of it and the dude was an entirely bitter manbaby who thought too highly of himself. He would insult anyone that believed anything paranormal could be real and would then begin to chastise them in a livestream in front of hundreds of people for it. FD was 100% an example of someone who had a toxic mindset from the get go.

[@AmericanIdiot7659]

@@foolycool5420 Source: Trust me bro

[@quartiermeisterf9875]

@@foolycool5420 thats still no reason to ruining a life my god a freand acsidentaly almost drowned me when i was joung and im still freands with him. I see no diverence. You always have to give people a second or third chance and try to see how it was/is from ther view point

[@yer7616]

Who cares everyone knew it was fake

[@ianplace9977]

@@foolycool5420 where the source mate

[@foopington]

Plot Twist: Black eyed kids forced him to make this video in order to hide their identity.

[@meghanmcclean5181]

They got him :/

[@aronnecroman]

if only you can go back in time and type this on their channel you might be his saviour :O

[@danniq4278]

ooh yes I like it 💛💚💙

[@angrycat3761]

"Maybe one day Fantastic Daily will return to us" "But when the world needed him the most , he Vanished"

[@HowlitzerPaul]

So many crazy things to witness in our world, he took the easy way out and tried to crook people.

[@billyandrew]

@@HowlitzerPaul So many crazy people, _they_ took the easy way out and didn't think to research, until it was too late! He pranked them and they're sore about it, because they thought they were clever people. I've never heard of the channel *FD.* For all I know the *FD* channel story is a prank by the guy that owns _this_ channel, doing a double bluff on me and everyone else in the comments! They were mostly angry, if the story is true, at themselves for being so gullible, but rather than laugh it off or just chalk it down to experience, they indulged in blame transference. As the story said, he didn't charge an entry fee, he didn't even have a patreon, so all they lost was pride and they only have their own foolishness to blame for that! 😜😂😂

[@smashpow]

And took the sun with him ooooo

[@troin3925]

@@billyandrew The channel is real. I was around to see it. In fact, the creator of the channel rebooted it three times with Fantastic Daily being the second iteration, and I was constantly annoyed at how he kept deleting his videos instead of archiving them and seemed to intentionally ignore the few comments (including my own), who were genuinely concerned about his older videos in the third version of his channel during the introduction video where he didn't give a straight answer as to why things are happening (all I ask from him is transparency. I'm also pissed that I never got to finish the Night: Sleepwalking Journal found footage series from the first version of his channel before they were deleted and it became Fantastic Daily. I had no idea it would eventually be gone and now it's lost media and no one even knows about it).

[@charmctrain4574]

I don’t think this guy did anything wrong, if a character lost a child in a film you wouldn’t hate the film maker, so why would you hate this man for his story. Awesome plot man, 👏

[@klaykid117]

I think it's the difference of people knowing it's fake beforehand versus one of those social experiment pranks that used to be very popular if you see somebody out in the park kidnapping a child and throwing them into a white van driving off you would be terrified

[@wegner7036]

@@klaykid117 Does the van being white have significance? Why is it always a white van!? WHY WHIIIIIIITE- Windowless would be terrifying but for some reason everyone says it's white... Bestow me with your wisdom, stranger!

[@LakesideWoes]

@@wegner7036 not really sure about this but I think it's the fact that the van is almost always a white van in stories

[@likira111]

Because you weren't meant to believe it was real, this is no better than the shitty prank channels or people pretending to have some terminal illness. These are people who in an age groups whose most likely dealt with miscarriages and fully belived what he was saying and while I'm not excusing their actions can you imagine someone doing this with fake suicide or rape then being like "oh I just wanted to tell a story" to millennials?

[@5amisntlate]

the entire problem is because he was performing to a community that was 100% convinced it was real. If someone I knew told me they'd lost a child, I'd have a very visceral reaction that I would not have to a fictional character (although, obviously, someone you know in your personal life is still different from a youtuber). If I then found out this person had been doing some sort of online story or experiment I'd feel utterly betrayed. When a fictional character dies or loses someone, it's sad, yes, but it's only sad within the story - you know that this person isn't real and therefore isn't actually going through this. Reality is a whole other ball game, and the emotions are much more intense. There could be a mild argument about how these grown as adults should've known it was fake but honestly FD /chose/ to promote to them. In a way, he wasn't writing a story, he was tricking people and scaring people for no reason. If he'd done it in an ARG community, or perhaps even just thrust it out into the internet randomly, it could've been fantastic, but he was purposefully fooling gullible people, and that's the issue. Just because they're stupid doesn't mean you get to punish them for it.

[@Mogul20478]

This whole story...shows how people are literally just stupid beyond belief.

[@MontgomeryandCo]

HoW cOUlD YoU eVen sAY tHAt to YoUr FeLlOw HumAnS iM cAlLiNG tHe PoLicE fOr bUlLyInG

[@MontgomeryandCo]

Like 40 seconds

[@kenkaniff8428]

ESPECIALLY the paranormal community!!!! I sub to a few ufo channels and the people there are THE CRAZIEST, INSANE, OVER THE TOP people I've EVER seen!!! it is literally unbelievable how crazy they are. they call you names if you even slightly doubt or question the video your seeing. they are SUCH NASTY PEOPLE!!!

[@A_Dilophosaurus]

Fr Both him and the viewers are pretty dumb

[@mrplebpotato2824]

“No they were not kids there were full grown adults ages 30-50” I’m sorry that caught me off Guard

[@BrocksJellyFilledDoughnuts]

I mean he's not wrong. I met a guy who actually believed this, he was so immature I don't even think he took himself seriously. Safe to say I don't speak to him anymore...

[@monmon0946]

Which means they were born in the 60, 70 or 80's. Their gullibleness comes from their generational lack of awareness. I was born in 1998, grew up with computers and the internet. I understand special and practical effects and how easy it can be done these days compared to a few decades ago. Its no surprise then, that people who didnt even have the internet as young or middle aged adults might be more gullible and of course, most adults hate being made a fool of, its a natural response. The death threats were a bit much though :o

[@sassykat2587]

If a grown woman can sit on the floor and cry/whine in public because she has to wear a mask, I believe it, lol. I would've liked to have seen this play out as a more 'serious' ARG, but he truly misjudged the outcome and expected praise more than anything, not that their actions are excused either. Just saying. A missed opportunity since it sounds like he could have been good, imo.

[@cousinmajin]

I have an ex who's mom was SUPER into pseudoscience, the paranormal, essential oils, tarrot cards, etc etc. Very easy to convince her of a ghost, EXTREMELY hard to convince her of real science. A lot of people like that are middle aged. Very set in their beliefs, not super aware of the internet or ARGs.

[@gianttacogod]

Lol same

[@gr3mlin404]

The fact that, that many people didn't accept the fact that it wasn't legit blows my mind. I give insane amounts of credit to the film makers that do this stuff well. Sucks that people take it too seriously and can't move on from it. Like it would be crazy if TSV or Daisy Brown were legit things, but I can live knowing that they aren't. 😂

[@megugu2155]

like some people still believe Blair Witch is real lmfao

[@narutohuntmendemon6354]

People: we going to attack you!!!! Me leasing to this: wow they are f#cked up in the head.....😑😑😑😑😑

[@Kelseyhates]

Why does your pfp say New York when rangers is Scottish

[@elizabethratcliffe3859]

he should've shared it with the creepypasta community there is enough balance of real and fake for that to have gone down well

[@Heli-draws]

Yeah,I can think of Marble Hornets and Ben Drowned as similar examples to this story that actually went well

[@elizabethratcliffe3859]

@@Heli-draws Yeah, from what I know (I'm not really a creepypasta person) they're pretty similar

[@reithehunter]

@@Heli-draws I would put them among the ARG community but I'm not sure

[@bibbobella]

@@elizabethratcliffe3859 They are. The black eyed kids sounds like something taken straight out of a creepy pasta with just a bit more thought and talent put behind it.

[@elizabethratcliffe3859]

@@bibbobella yeah they are

[@auth3nticCC]

what the actual hell is wrong with people.

[@little-rascal]

Moral of this story- The predictability of stupidity: do not underestimate it.

[@Lee-wb5yx]

He overestimated how mature people would be

[@monmon0946]

Right? FD was so stupid not to realize what audience he had.

[@bananabreaker3441]

@@monmon0946 he had an audience of grown adults.

[@Lee-wb5yx]

@@bananabreaker3441 I think he was being sarcastic?

[@thehermitofhoodsport]

I'm sorry, but shouldn't we all know that the people watching and "believing" these things are mentally unstable? I'm really not sure why he is surprised that he got the hate that he did. Either you're going to have crazy people that believe it, or you're going to have people that that watch it as a show but know you're fucking with crazy people.

[@anxiousreaperess4548]

It’s really unfortunate that people took things too far. You could really tell he put a lot of thought and passion into the black eyed children story, there could be so many more amazing stories the creator had in mind that we’ll never be able to see.

[@AV_Action]

Meanwhile 30 years ago... "Son, Santa Claus isnt real." "YOURE GOING TO JAIL FOR FRAUD!"

[@mammon_is_god]

You jest but the lawsuit is in the mail.

[@alansmithee419]

"Meanwhile 30 years ago" is a brilliant oxymoron.

[@mammon_is_god]

@@alansmithee419 time is a flat circle

[@edwardevans5759]

@@mammon_is_god Wibbly wobbly...timey-wimey...stuff...

[@kamilekavaliauskaite2341]

Wait im pretty sure I saw this comment on another video.

[@happymadface6691]

This guy inspires me so fricken much. The way he got people to interact with a story they didn't know he was building, it's amazing- Even if it ultimately blew up in his face, I really wish I could have seen this to it's end

[@TheAlmightyJello]

Honestly, I can't be mad. Its an ARG in a place where people didn't expect an ARG. In a sense, its ARG at it's finest- a story so ingrained into what feels safe and normal that it's hard to tell whether or not it's just a story. It's what makes ARGs so cool and interesting to begin with.

[@JinzoCrash]

The buttwipe lied about his child dying, to grift the sympathies of grieving parents that had lost their children. He's something much worse than a simple ARG. He's a grifter, the likes of Secureteam10, making up fake stuff about their lives to make people want to give them money.

[@belial7625]

@@JinzoCrash He openly stated that he did not ask his viewers to give him anything. Moreover, I'm sure lots of other people who create ARGs don't immediately state that the story is fake and sometimes have similar plotlines like them murdering someone or something similar. Honestly, it serves his viewers right for not being able to think clearly and not realizing that a normal person would never share such a thing in such a way. Some people just need to learn the hard way.

[@anywherebuthere91]

@@JinzoCrash I agree he crossed a line, but then so does he. He lied about a child dying in the midst of a story about hunting monsters though, in his big monster fiction. When you read a story on nosleep or the creepypasta wiki with a dead kid, do you assume the OP is "grifting"? I doubt it. Also you said "making up fake stuff about their lives to make people want to give them money" do you have some kind of evidence that this guy took money from his audience?

[@monmon0946]

@@anywherebuthere91 He probably had ad revenue and the popularity alone can be seen as a beneficial gain, whether for profit or fame the way in which he did it was manipulative and deceitful. That's where the comparison of scammer/fraud comes from. The difference with FD is that he at no point made it apparent he was joking. He deliberately presented it as something real because he knew that's what people wanted, he admits this himself. He expertly exploited a communities vulnerability by deceiving them for gain, including touchy elements such as a dead kid. Their emotional response makes sense and is justifiable, although that doesnt make it right.

[@benja0502]

Moon Horse I honestly think it was a giant misstep in judgement from FD's part. I don't quite agree on the fact that he did for personal gain, whether it being popularity or ad revenue with malicious intent. Of course he wanted his story to get out there, but I don't think he was “expertly manipulating” the paranormal community. Many such ARG's have been made with very disturbing content, with different levels of success without letting the audience know it was an ARG. It was just very wrong to advertise it to the paranormal community, and as stated in the video, he didn't realize the gullibility (for the lack of a better word) of the paranormal community, and thus got such a visceral reaction when they found out it was fake. I mean, the paranormal community has been ridiculed for the longest time for exactly believing in this sort of stuff, so when they found out it was fake, it probably even hit their ego, or it was another way the world was going against them. I think FD had really bad judgement in this whole situation overall. It doesn't seem like he was trying to dig deep into the paranormal community and mess with them for gain, I think he just kinda rolled with it and it got way out of hand. And when dealing with a community such as that I think it warrants way more carefullness (thats probably not a word but ok) than what FD exercised. Edit: formatting and yikes i wrote paranormal community a bunch

[@Tstarbuck]

Imagine trying to ruin a mans life because he made you think that some children had black eyes

[@harrisonwestphall2381]

There are black eyed children............. In homes and schools. Abuse is very real and ruins lives.

[@peytongodbee8629]

Harrison Westphall fr one time I got into a fight when I was in school and had a black eye for 2 weeks

[@canni8l]

@@harrisonwestphall2381 not that type of black eyes

[@bungiecrimes7247]

He deserved it if he wanted to play this little game

[@AFluffyFiend]

@@bungiecrimes7247 no

[@ster_joke2880]

*sees free film* "I want a refund!"

[@thefakepie1126]

now , to be fair , and I'm gonna do the devil's advocate here , some people might have spend some times building gadgets and weird sound things thinking all of this was real , and maybe they feel now that they've wasted their time making those things , but yeah , they are SHITTY ! and doxing the poor guy ? and ruining the buisness of the poor guy and his wife ? that's awfull

[@logangameing2816]

THE FAKE PIE yeah

[@liberpolo5540]

Sounds like somethinga Karen would say! xD

[@illogicalgarage8641]

@@thefakepie1126 they deserve to have their time wasted if they're making gadgets to stop ghost iids

[@RoseOnFire]

@@illogicalgarage8641 they deserve to have their time wasted for believing in different things than you?

[@ZipDevXD]

“The only difference between him and other list channels was that every single thing he mentioned in his videos were completely fabricated by himself” Nah I’m pretty sure they all do that

[@IxCANxHAZxCOOKIE]

I would have absolutely thought Fantastic Daily was a genuine channel, because so many of those channels that ARE genuine use known false materials like stolen art pieces and such.

[@ceru5675]

The only good thing to result of the Top 10 trend was LEMMiNO.

[@suethemarysue4969]

Yes yes yes

[@newthejsterjacob408]

Don’t forget Burger King Foot Lettuce

[@chipman4747]

10 Top Fortnit Funnies

[@mementomori1553]

Chip Man number 10 : skull trooper fucking dies

[@jesterssketchbook]

just lemmino

[@lilrich1243]

Funny thing is black eye is an actual eye disorder. "There's an eye disorder known as aniridia which makes the eye appear to have “no iris.” In truth, there is a small ring of iris tissue but it is so small and the pupil is so large that it can look like the eyes are completely black. It is due to a chromosome mutation."

[@tillyfoxes8778]

You also get a black eye if someone punches you. But that’s more of a darkish ring around your eyes than a actual black eye. 🙂

[@shelbyb9965]

Not to be all Um AcKsHuAlLY but I think black eyed kids are supposed to also have fully black eyes, including the sclera.

[@timpanj1902]

My friend has it

[@arowace498]

I guess their eyes must be very sensitive to light.

[@lunawolfheart336]

i happen to have a freind with that condition and the poor guys been called demon on sevrel occasions

[@shopnil4]

Kinda sad this happened. Not all args say they are args at the beginning, so what's the difference with this one?

[@tziirkq]

It wasn't promoted to the ARG community, it was promoted to people who genuinely believe in Slenderman, etc. It's the difference releasing a fiction book as fiction or non-fiction.

[@dylanpresidafonseca2545]

@@tziirkq Like any of that stuff is real anyway.

[@snflwrchan8019]

@@tziirkq if he promoted it to the arg community, people will know right on that it's fake

[@Katsuya81]

People knowing its fake won’t be genuine anymore

[@billyandrew]

The difference is a bunch of folk took themselves too seriously and when they realised they'd been pranked weren't mentally balanced enough to see the funny side, so got angry at the guy for pointing out how gullible they were. Naturally, there are psychos in any large group, who want to kill anyone that points out how stupid they are, then there are those like the 'expert' that dislike folk pointing out they aren't half as clever as they like to think they are. Crowds are hard work. 😜😂😂😂

[@steropeshu]

I was a huge fan when he was around. Finding out it was fake (I was a dumb, gullible kid who liked creepy stuff) actually made me appreciate the effort in it more and learned to, as he would say at the end of his videos, "Stay skeptical." Never knew that he did an interview with you, and it's so nostalgic to hear his voice again.

[@NewAgeComix]

This is the same kind of people that find out wrestling is prearranged and then rail against it for the rest of their lives. Or they tell their kids that Santa isnt real because playing the fool is worst thing in the world. Please don't tell them Star Wars isn't real, they might lose it.

[@MarsMann6754]

who knows what they might do if we tell them Harry Potter is just a story

[@VagueNaming]

@@MarsMann6754 what the fuck did you just say

[@rloach067]

I mean I just don't see the point of lying to kids for "wonder"... real life is pretty wonderful already... so I don't see the point of your santa comment 🤭 I love ARG's and paranormal lore, and if my kids ask about santa I might talk to them the same way if they asked me about any cryptids: some people choose to believe in it, and the lore can be very interesting! but there is no evidence that it is real.

[@lolucorn1]

@@MarsMann6754 potteries be T R I G G E R E D Ah yes thank you autocorrect

[@KNNY_-sp6kq]

wait you're telling me santa, wrestling AND star wars isnt real? my world is shattered, time to dox some people

[@DEADisBEAUTIFUL]

The kind of people who fell for FD’s content are also the kind of people who actually attempt to do the things in 5 Minute Crafts videos.

[@numberyellow]

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[@yodagaming5905]

@@numberyellow his name is Tom now

[@numberyellow]

@@yodagaming5905 lol, i totally popped that comment into the wrong comment chain. I have no idea how in the hell i managed that.

[@lunawolfheart336]

this made me chuckle lol

[@TheTrueSpottedStripe]

@@numberyellow You know you could've just deleted that right?

[@MiloWildfire]

This man singlehandedly vibe checked the whole paranormal community

[@cosmicyoutubeoof]

And then they doxxed him...

[@lairepigeon]

@@cosmicyoutubeoof they didnt pass the vibe check

[@adamvifrye2690]

tbf, that whole miscarriage thing does kinda creep me out a bit..... theres some honestly weird vibes about that.

[@falcon_arkaig]

@स्वदेशीय पुरौकस् Sociopath is a strong word

[@epoc162]

I remember following his story and I loved it. It was crazy to me that anyone thought it was real. It’s really a shame that the story ended before its conclusion.

[@pgj1997]

Wish someone archived those videos. They sound really interesting, and something I'd watch. I mean, a Top 10 channel that's completely made up, and has several arcs going on at once? That's something I can get behind.

[@theemeraldcrown1]

There's a channel called Fantastic Daily Archive which reuploaded Fantastic Daily videos, kzbin.info/door/HtokD7XKS3sCiEIb0yUA5Q

[@RatOfTheWoods]

Someone just recently started doing just that

[@ryanjohnson5343]

It was a fantastic thing he created, very entertaining

[@nikiTricoteuse]

@@theemeraldcrown1 Brilliant. Thanks.

[@mezzopiano222]

Does anyone have the links? The videos are unlisted :(

[@KillahKurtz]

wow... i haven't heard FD's voice for quite a while

[@mistybreeze205]

Same. Miss him. In a odd way.

[@nathan.cremsiffino]

I was working on a video and now I'm watching this

[@ratmanandtoasternuts8172]

His post-black eyed kid content was so good

[@slavicjow3739]

@@nathan.cremsiffino stop

[@Josedrn_]

Nathaniel Asis nobody cares stop spamming

[@littleloner1159]

"FRAUD" ...Sir. You were watching horror stories. Have you ever sat around a campfire listening to spooky stories? Same thing just with way more thought and work going into it. Wtfs wrong with ppl to dox and threatened someone that gave them so much entertainment. I applaud you dear creator of all of this. You did some amazing work.

[@opheliarosewood7847]

He taught these people a VERY important lesson that CLEARLY they needed to learn. Don't believe everything you see on the internet, BE SKEPTICAL!

[@mochayla]

The way that this could have happened to Daisy brown (the idea of interacting with the paranormal) or iamsophie (framed as a different genre at first) just as easily, but this guy just got so incredibly unlucky, is so saddening

[@heath6802]

But those are ARGs, simply games, not actual KZbin channels? He was a normal channel for quite a long time and had a built up audience so I don’t think that could work for him as well

[@ta-theoadonis465]

I think the creator of "Hi, I'm Mary Mary" had to make a public post to explicitly say "hey, this is fiction. I am fine, this is a personal project" because people were actually trying to find her. Daisy Brown had in her favor that the creature obviously looked fake, and iamsophie had a turn into unfiction pretty quickly (and, imo, it looked "off" enough to infere it wasn't a genuine vlog channel). People need to understand that this is a genre of fiction without forcing the creator(s) to come out with a neon sign that says "Everything you see is fiction!!"

[@babyback8799]

It’s crazy what superstitious folk are willing to believe.

[@PauloGarcia-sp5ws]

Ikr.

[@Somerandomegamer]

Superstition leads to gullibility. All of this isn't surprising.

[@sipherys1961]

@@Somerandomegamer true

[@thedecayingwatcher7177]

@@sipherys1961 ʘ‿ʘ you're all funny

[@plague6566]

It's almost fanatical really

[@JPOfAwesomeness]

I THOUGHT EVERYONE FORGOT ABOUT HIM! He was one of my favorite youtubers, he did some black eye children stuff and really truely interesting videos. Edit: his sun vanished videos were the best.

[@JPOfAwesomeness]

Roach huh no? He made videos about the sun vanished.

[@mirandah9758]

Roach He was friends with the guy who created TSV. FD would have him on his live-streams all the time.

[@LunariaPurple]

He also had started covering Binary Moon and then I think around that point is when he sort of just backed out from the channel

[@civo4457]

“There was no merch-“ IAM: **puts IAM merch on screen** You smooth bastard.

[@thegooddoctor3182]

Man gets bullied out of doing what he loves by easily fooled adult children.

[@palerider2143]

Aduaby adult + baby = aduaby

[@theredacted2383]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmjFnaane96Zg7c

[@secretcommenter5720]

@@theredacted2383 bruh, stop promoting your channel you seven year old

[@somemonkeystirnerite]

@@secretcommenter5720 he can promote his channel you seven year old lol

[@simulping4371]

@@somemonkeystirnerite Well yes but actually no, promoting your channel IS ALLOWED, but it will just bring hate mobs to your channel this is why I never encourage people to self promote

[@ghostgirl7089]

My god, a ARG that was used as a list channel, now that would be a incredible concept!! Its a shame it ended in that way, maybe someday someone can do something similar

[@Zero-SK14]

I'm just glad to were able to talk to him. Man I miss his videos. They were entertaining and he never meant any harm. Shame people can be toxic like that

[@domecity]

If any aspiring ARG/unfiction creators are to take a single thing away from this video, it should be that a very *very* *VERY* important part of making this sort of content is knowing your target audience beforehand, and being certain that they'll respond well to your stuff before trying to cater to them. While Muto obviously didn't deserve to get doxxed and isn't to blame for that whole situation, I think it was a pretty severe lapse in judgement to court the audience that he did while putting as much effort into immersion as he did. At the risk of sounding a bit harsh, I think it's kind of self evident that a bunch of grown adults who believe in real-life monster attacks might not have the most well-adjusted response to feeling as though they've been lied to. In my opinion this channel's content was better suited fro a general audience, who'd be captivated by the immersion enough to suspend their disbelief, but would ultimately get that the whole thing was just a bit meant as s fun horror take on KZbin clickbait channels.

[@Oldass_Deadass_dumbass_channel]

I agree that he didn't deserve to get doxxed, however I disagree that it isn't all his fault. Literally none of this would have happened if he didn't go out of his way to find a community that he knew would fully buy into it. The only reasons I can think of for doing such is profit, or because hes a pretentious filmmaker who thinks the feeling of being lied to is something audiences love. Either way, its his fault, in my opinion.

[@slygamer136]

Just like i said on twitter once, the moment a gimmick account or channel stops and acts out of character, everybody fucking turns on them. As if they arent human. And looking at this, only furthers that people are the problem, not the creators. If they didnt dox him, he wouldnt need to make a video about what was going on. But noooooooo, because people want to ruin the fun or are that gullible/killjoyish, they make the creator fall into either anger, depression, or the feeling of quitting. Its astonishing people care more about the content than the creator, and give no fuck what happens.

[@bladerman4850]

I think that is why TINAG (this is not a game) as a concept has been slowly dying for a long time, it is really not worth dealing with when it leads to people flat out attacking people like this.

[@ta-theoadonis465]

@@bladerman4850 I think TINAG will survive as 4th wall breaks in interactive media (some games and SCP entries come to mind) but it'll no longer be a thing. Anonymity in the internet used to elevate stories to urban legend status, but it has also left the door open for companies to profit from them and screw over their original creators. Currently there's this weird venn diagram that consists of: people who enjoy these stories and want to follow the creators, people who guillibly believe it's real and stumble upon the creator/force the creator to put themselves in the spotlight, and creators having to make public statements because some nasty people start claiming the creation as their own. And this act of creators putting themselves out in the open leads to extremely crappy things like doxxing and accusations of "lying" to unsuspecting people. It amazes me that people still genuinely believe ghosts and monsters and otherworldly creatures are real and then get upset when they realize it was a story all along. It's like getting upset that the stories submitted to r/NoSleep are fictional.

[@HylianKnight02]

Its heartbreaking, really. FD had so much talent, and when he shared it with the world, they just tossed it aside and threatened him over it. I really liked the concept. But for people to literally become VIOLENT because of it? I mean, nobody gave Marble Hornets this mind of treatment! That's considered one of the best viral stories on the internet. It's a shame that people are like this, really. Best of luck to Fantastic Daily in his future endeavors.

[@mysteriousguy3268]

At least he aint like me livin inside a room 24 hours watching minecraft series.

[@SoleiLilyn]

People were too hooked.

[@lolucorn1]

@@w花b *S P O O P E D*

[@DustinRodriguez1_0]

People that are stupid are, usually, not selectively stupid. It pervades their life, and the same mindset that leaves them vulnerable to believe in ghosts and monsters makes them vulnerable to dealing with disagreements with violence. Rational discussion is how not-stupid people settle differences. When that's not a language a person trusts, their only remaining options are all bad.

[@nok4799]

It's because his audience consisted mainly of low IQ boomers and middle age people who actually believed in this type of dumb shit.

[@rysea9855]

This would literally be the most perfect video to get sponsored by a vpn

[@lucagaibazzi2157]

holy shit you're right

[@IodizedNaCL]

*nord vpn kicks in*

[@kaiwilliams8886]

Actually? Yeah.

[@rysea9855]

@@Bob-ky4tn No sponsors mean less money for content creators, less money for content creators means less time for them to work on videos. Yeah, sponsors are annoying, but without them, many good channels wouldn't even exist

[@Bob-ky4tn]

@@rysea9855 use sponcer block extension

[@metaforth]

Tbh I think he should have advertised this to the horror community as a dramatic story instead of to the paranormal community as an arg The horror community would have loved it

[@RosesTeaAndASD]

In Summary: Grown ass adults got so angry over this KZbinrs fake "Found Footage" style ghost videos that he was doxed all around the internet and even heaps of death threats were made against him. Seriously though - WTF is wrong with people?!

[@JinzoCrash]

Well, the guy also lied about his CHILD DYING, just to grift the clicks from parents who'd lost their own children. People poured their sad stories of loss out in those comment sections. Everyone defensive about any ire this guy got need to know he's sort of sick in the head / has no empathy.

[@scootybooty1363]

@@JinzoCrash dude I've seen you all over these comments saying the same thing, you seem really salty about it. That whole dead child bit was meant to be a part of the story around it, you do realise that right? About it being all a part of the fiction of the channel and not some scam?

[@lunawolfheart336]

@@JinzoCrash it was apart of a story people were just too dumb to be sceptical about a ghost suposibly killing an unborn child. that just dosent happen in alot of suposibly real paranormal stories. plus eveb when i belived in that stuff i was sceptical of the whole thing. also tragedies in storries make the story more intresting.

[@xavis7617]

@@JinzoCrash You're just upset you fell for it, boomer.

[@monmon0946]

@@scootybooty1363 The whole point is that no, they didn't realize that. You're dealing with a crowd who believe in the paranormal who are in their 30's to 50's meaning they grew up when the internet was mainly used for military/corporate purposes, it only become commercialized in the 90's. It isnt surprising that they are a bit more gullible. We're privileged growing up with the internet, computers, youtube, etc. I'm sure most of us know how easy it is to fake things but those people probably didn't have such awareness. FD knew this and capitalized on it, which is by definition manipulative, or you can also believe hes just incompetent and didn't realize what kinda audience he had. Either way he takes some of the blame. He literally admits his own fault in this video for the losing a child bit but you're here defending it, why? It doesn't matter if its apart of his story when he deliberately lied to people he knew genuinely believed or if he was just incompetent and didn't realize. *At least FD can acknowledge that.* Its very common that older generations just simply never learn about these things, its more of a generational issue. I'm sure it wouldn't happen as easily today. PS: the whole scam thing is people merely drawing a comparison between the manipulative tactics seen by both a scammer and FD. The main tactic being that he lies to exploit a populations vulnerability for personal gain, whether for profit/fame, the comparison can easily be drawn. Especially from their perspective, which I don't share.

[@rai1578]

WAIT, I used to watch him and this is the first im realizing that he made this all up???? I even specifically remember watching the black eyed kids videos!!! This is really cool. I'm very impressed that I never even realized those were all made by him.

[@robotmaster4515]

Same, I always wondered what happened to his channel as I would watch it for a week straight forget it existed and return a few months later and finding out it was all fake felt didn't hit that hard because I expected as much but then realising HE MADE THEM blew my god damn mind. He deserves to make a movie, the guy is talented. So cool.

[@colleennewholy9026]

@@robotmaster4515 right?

[@uppindown8466]

This was the reaction he was expecting

[@journalsentries1312]

I remember shane dawson covering it back in the day and i didnt know it was fake/arg until now omg

[@gavriellarutigliano2356]

bruh he sounds so familiar i swear ive seen his shit before but forgot about it till now, especially the black eyed kids shit

[@PAPOTTV]

I love this video and this channel... its the 1st time i heard about fantastic daily....if i was a fan that time, honestly, i would still support him after his big reveal.. hes a genius

[@Oreo-And-Donut-Fan]

its really sad these adults got mad that these creepypasta children didnt exist that they resulted to doxxing someone, thats as pathetic as the people who get mad at actors for acting,and people say to "grow up" when the grown up aint that grown up.

[@iinvaderrand]

I get why the community turned on him. But come on. He came out and laid his story bare. Move on. Ive been tricked by ARGs plenty of times and I applaud the creators ability to use my expectations and beliefs against me. Sky sirens were the ones that got me the worst. Lol

[@TheSleepyRanger]

Yeah I was tricked by marble hornets when I first watched it but when I realized it was fake I just moved on. Of course marble hornets didn't seek me out and tell me it was real so i do understand some of the anger but doxing and death threats are never ok.

[@slamacat9866]

"These weren't kids" Well, there goes my hope in humanity-

[@darkroninmarvel]

You had hope in humanity?

[@CrimesForDimes]

Ah fuck I lost my faith again

[@theredacted2383]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmjFnaane96Zg7c

[@Blueflag04]

I already lost it

[@Deko__]

"I don't think art needs to exist for people who just pay for the ticket."

[@MZMDev]

I remember having my comment featured in one of his videos about The Sun Vanished and it was the first time I appeared on a big channel. This reminded me of that. Thanks!

[@wheedler]

They wanted the demon children to be real. They were upset that someone didn't lose a child. Upset enough to make threats and endanger real lives.

[@averagerick9581]

So I guess they were the real demon children all along

[@christianrose603]

Yeah.... you've totally missed the point!!

[@yumiko523]

@@w花b wdym?

[@itsclemtime2357]

Jesus. This guy could do a comprehensive docu-series about the rise and fall of Raccoon City and I’d happily binge it.

[@fyreember4519]

Me to! I miss him :(

[@Sadako2602]

Since I don't know what raccoon city is I need one.

[@erickvillegas2544]

There’s always someone to ruin things for everyone I completely forgot that adult people can be children and believe in the boogie man

[@justsomemothmanwithinterne7921]

It’s sad really. This guy was extremely talented, but some dipshit had to ruin it.

[@eatfrenchtoast]

Conspiracy theory content is their favorite ARG.

[@donttouchmycrowbar3452]

@ Its times like these when i wish there was a sarcasm font because i have no clue if your joking lmao

[@TheInkSideofThings]

I used to watch him religiously, I always knew it was fake but it was damn entertaining, especially the sun vanished, I miss him, I stopped watching him around a year ago, I'm sad to see him go and hope he comes around somehow again, truly hurts

[@joshua-5495]

Whoever said this man was a fraud, check your facts... “Never asked for money, no patreon, no merch” -Fantastic Daily Y’all were just fools who couldn’t understand that this was a web series. And the death threats, like y’all are pretty pathetic...

[@kyler5923]

Try the same thing with jesus or god and see how people treat cha.

[@hewitttribe5536]

@@kyler5923 Did you get tricked by a KZbinr? Aww

[@fauzanaziz6365]

@@kyler5923 wow, you just tried to compare a 2-3 year period ARG to CENTURIES worth of religious studies and beliefs. Holy fuck I'm laughing.

[@toopink4death492]

@@kyler5923 The Concept of a higher being is really believed in surface level. Being the Church used these beliefs as a weapon. So yeah I don't believe in a "God".

[@engineergaming2549]

Agreed, this has gotten rid of the very small amount of hope for humanity I had left.

[@BlindingLight]

It’s amazing and terrifying how people will believe whatever they hear on the internet without even so much as trying to check the information. And then try to ruin the life of the guy that made all this stuff because they thought it was real. I’d totally watch the web series. It would be awesome.

[@sarafontanini7051]

I honestly hope these people eaither learned to not be so shitty or faced some comeuppance. I mean for crying out loud they actually VANDALISED shit, that's a CRIME.

[@Bladewarriorcat]

I watched and listened to the series. I enjoyed it,, sure I thought it was real in a way but a story is a story. Real or fake, it was interesting to listen too. I liked it.

[@bob_kat7160]

It’s funny what butt hurt people will do if they make a fool of themselves.

[@peachiiee]

And scary.

[@monmon0946]

Very brave comment. Those people wouldn't feel the need to do anything if they weren't tricked. People are acting like their reaction is surprising but it really isn't, whether or not its good or bad, its a pretty normal response. I would say its even more funny how people like to completely remove all responsibility from themselves when they do something manipulative and then play the victim when they face retaliation. You could say FD made a fool out of himself too, since he was the one who put himself in that position in the fist place. That line of logic is very easy to turn around.

[@wigglybridge786]

@@monmon0946 I think people are fools for believing outlandish things like "black eyed children" , You can't just believe random things you see on the internet. FD kinda showed what stupid things people will believe on the internet.

[@monmon0946]

@@wigglybridge786 Yeah you can hide behind that as if he was fulfilling some kind of noble cause. I guess every con artist who manipulates people out of money is merely displaying how gullible older people and younger tourists are. Lol, dumb old people and foolish, ignorant tourists. They cant just be so gullible. *(Whether its for money or fame, its still manipulative)* FD also displayed his own stupidity quite overtly by supposedly not understanding the audience he was garnering despite the fact he said he wanted people to believe and wanted to deliberately trick people, which sounds like he knew exactly what audience he had and was just exploiting them, but that sounds bad. So maybe that's why he changed his tune to "oh it was so obviously fake lol." Sure, but FD knew they thought it was real and made them believe he lost a child. *You realize FD literally admits his own fault in this video, right?* So, another brave comment by stating something extremely obvious while not recognizing FD's fault in the matter.

[@ephin3242]

Moon Horse You can compare him to a scammer if you ignore the fact that the idiot viewers of the Channel lost literally nothing.

[@Loomy9x]

Imagine doxing a man for making web series so he could entertain others

[@marighoul]

I remember his black eyed kid series when he was still FD and I thought it was one of the best paranormal web series I've seen in a long time. His rebranding was a trainwreck though

[@heath6802]

Yeah I dipped whenever he began doing the live shows, found out about the sun vanished from him, but I would’ve still seen it anyways from other people in the community who cover ARGs

[@lillydrawz]

"Under the sea" THERES SOMETHING IN THE SEA

[@yuricock]

A pineapple

[@TwiliPaladin]

There's always a lighthouse.

[@schaab7203]

comrade shhh, our submarine will be discovered

[@person0-016]

🎶Under the sea🎶

[@cormey8772]

Under da sea

[@theotherjared9824]

The audience of fantastic daily are three things: 1. Stupid 2. Believe they are smart 3. Hate being called stupid All 3 things together lead to toxicity rarely matched by anything else.

[@t0t383]

Not all, im a huge FD fan here and tbh what this man did was BRILLIANT and fucking smart, he fooled me yes but thats the thing, he was too convincing. He bamboozled all of us and i LOVE that. Its not ok to generalize an entire fanbase just based on a few stupid ass adults getti g triggered bc the child in their window isnt real

[@god.mp4]

Im not stupid, i dont believe im smart and i dont care if im called stupid. Dont make assumptions

[@anthonyjh02]

T0T3 I respect that and I’ll keep that in mind.

[@jarofarts6040]

Look you baited them into replying and whining, good job

[@AT420951108]

League of legends has entered the arena

[@jonwainwrightiii934]

Best part was his statement of his realization that his needs to made because HE enjoys it. That's the plight of a true artist of any genre.

[@PunkExMachina]

"A fraud" what? For black eyed ghost kids are you kidding me? Truly a bunch of pathetic & delusional people who felt angry they were confronted by reality for once yikes.

[@lunawolfheart336]

thats what congestive disalace dose to belivers of this shit they do mental backflips then become very very angry when they realize tge thing they wanted to be right about isint true

[@KingOfDarknessAndEvil]

@@lunawolfheart336 congestive disalace

[@ephin3242]

Was that supposed to be cognitive dissonance?

[@Emmanel9]

congestive disalance,,,,,

[@SkittlesInYourHand]

@@lunawolfheart336 isint

[@Wyrmknave]

"Journalists in the paranormal community would happily share his work without a care in the world for whether or not it was fake." What? No? Surely not? You're telling me there's paranormal journalists out there who don't report exclusively on real, proven ghosts? What is the world coming to?

[@jamman3921]

I’d love this guys content if he started making more, looks like he’s found his new audience

[@Phoenix-tc6dp]

this is still to this day one of my favorite videos on this platform right next to disrupts first worlds deadliest virus video that was deleted years ago