The Rise of Cults in America: A Survey of Church History with W. Robert Godfrey

[@ligonier]

This message is from Dr. Godfrey’s 73-part teaching series A Survey of Church History. Watch the entire series: www.ligonier.org/learn/series/survey-of-church-history-parts-1-6

[@limjacob1905]

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[@jedimasterham2]

Calvinism is a cult that includes eccentric theology. This cult’s theology is eccentric because they deny the Biblical text, distort Christ’s atonement, and believes we are robots. Maybe this channel should think about this.

[@patrickwalker4259]

Very good history indeed. Thanks for your presentation, and the Christian world certainly appreciates your work, sir 👍 I'm sure this must be the third video I am watching. I just love it all. The knowledge in there is enormous. I'm hoping to watch the whole series 🙏 🙌 ❤ God bless you and everyone else 🙏 ❤️ 🙌

[@mwendyt]

I was raised in the Christian Science religion didn’t really embrace it. As a young adult I began getting involved in the Charismatic/Non Denomination eventually left but now I am in a Reformed church thank the Lord.

[@bloodmooncomix457]

That's God's Providence that protect us from these modern heresies! Mine was the " word faith movement" But even then, I still remember RC Sproul and J Vernon McGee on a radio! You know, when you take a good look back over your life, You'll see evidence He's always been there..... 🤔 Are sanctification walk is just conditioning us to see exactly where! 🙏😚✝️

[@JESUSisLORD24151]

I have asked people in the Christian Science religion what they believed and I could never get an answer. What do they believe?

[@rhondae8222]

@@JESUSisLORD24151 Maybe you should ask Tom Cruise. Lol 😊

[@that_agape]

@@1Whipperin definitely good advice to read the word, however God does give us pastors who love His word and their aim is to love the church as Christ has commanded and by God’s grace they do. We can to an extent trust and according to God’s word (1 Thessalonians 5) we are to love and be thankful for the faithful ones who labor for us in love and are over us in the church (elders and such). That doesn’t mean praising false teachers or abusive people who abuse God’s word and don’t live up to what elders are supposed to qualify as according to books such as Timothy. Anyways I just wanted to say that. God bless you all

[@mwendyt]

@@JESUSisLORD24151 as a child being brought up in that religion basically what I took from it was they deny evil and sin in the world which was a major conflict with what my reality was I grew up in an alcoholic household and was sexually abused by my stepfather. My grandmother was a practitioner in that religion people would call her and she would pray for them I remember her telling them “it’s in your mind you gotta have good thoughts cast out the evilL “ we never went to doctors either. One time she fell and broke her arm never went to doctor just made a sling

[@ritastevenson5639]

I am a recently saved, former Jehovah's Witness (Aug 2020). They would fall under the category of Restorationist AND Doomsday. They believe Jesus ALREADY came though, in 1914 (albeit invisibly) and they are awaiting his coming in the battle at Armageddon, which is "right around the corner" . They do not use the term Second Coming. Clearly that would hem them in! 😂 I thank God for opening my eyes, even though I had been in JW for 34 years. I'm grateful that I helped no one to baptism in that cult. I only pray now that I can help people get out of it, only by God's power of course!

[@dirkbindemann1852]

I read William J. Schnell's book

[@digitallifeline162]

If JWs believe Jesus has returned, why did they continue to observe the Lord's Evening Meal??? The Apostle Paul said in his first letter to the church in Corinth "For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes". (1 Corinthians chapter 11 verse 26).

[@casseophealejarde-khaizen]

I have recent encounters with JW's and they are very persistent. The issue I have is that they do not use scripture but refers me to JW website. No proof of scripture and I already see the red flag there.n

[@PETERJOHN101]

Beware the cult of Calvinism, as well.

[@ritastevenson5639]

@@digitallifeline162 ha! Good question. I don't remember how they squared that up (other than they were partaking until he came back at Armageddon) so I'll have to look it up.

[@jessyjonas4988]

“Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.” John 16:13 Lord open our hearts And lead us into all truth In Jesus name Amen

[@jessyjonas4988]

@@hr2r805 Amen Bless the name of the Lord

[@jessyjonas4988]

@@hr2r805 1 , 2 Amen

[@Pastor_Grant]

Great subject thanks Dr Godfrey

[@formicapple2]

Many thanks for a most illuminating talk.

[@jahreigns888]

Study to show YOURSELF approved that YOU can rightly divide the truth and be a worker that need not be ashamed. Add to your faith goodness and KNOWLEDGE.

[@timharris2291]

A weakness here is that a taxonomy is performed that *assumes* what groups are cults, then sorts them, but what is lacking is a connotative definition by which a cult can be picked out.

[@xyberfunk]

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths. (2Tim4:3-4)

[@rhondae8222]

Thanks for speaking on this issue.

[@richard-fy2mu]

I was raised for several years in Christian Science and ended up for nearly 2 decades an Adventist. Two issues, no faith in the Bible as final authority and no Trinitarian Doctrine. Where were the churches that "knew the Truth?" No witness and sadly I nearly just walked away all together. Many like me suffer in darkness and go get them into the light!

[@johndodson8464]

"I will become like the Most High God." Satan . . . And every Mormon. The Creator/creature distinction is the most basic tenet of Theism. God is God, and I am not.

[@kevinclint7588]

ONLY JESUS CHRIST SAVES,……………. AMEN TO THAT ❤

[@AngelRoseHeaven]

Thank you

[@janiceeteme5536]

Keep all of God's commandments

[@ThethomasJefferson]

“For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.” Departing from there, He went into their synagogue. And a man was there whose hand was withered. And they questioned Jesus, asking, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?”-so that they might accuse Him. And He said to them, “What man is there among you who has a sheep, and if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will he not take hold of it and lift it out? How much more valuable then is a man than a sheep! So then, it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.” Then He *said to the man, “Stretch out your hand!” He stretched it out, and it was restored to normal, like the other. But the Pharisees went out and conspired against Him, as to how they might destroy Him. But Jesus, aware of this, withdrew from there. Many followed Him, and He healed them all, and warned them not to tell who He was. This was to fulfill what was spoken through Isaiah the prophet:” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭12‬:‭8‬-‭17‬ ‭ “The Pharisees were saying to Him, “Look, why are they doing what is not lawful on the Sabbath?” And He *said to them, “Have you never read what David did when he was in need and he and his companions became hungry; how he entered the house of God in the time of Abiathar the high priest, and ate the consecrated bread, which is not lawful for anyone to eat except the priests, and he also gave it to those who were with him?” Jesus said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”” ‭‭Mark‬ ‭2‬:‭24‬-‭28‬ ‭ “On another Sabbath He entered the synagogue and was teaching; and there was a man there whose right hand was withered. The scribes and the Pharisees were watching Him closely to see if He healed on the Sabbath, so that they might find reason to accuse Him. But He knew what they were thinking, and He said to the man with the withered hand, “Get up and come forward!” And he got up and came forward. And Jesus said to them, “I ask you, is it lawful to do good or to do harm on the Sabbath, to save a life or to destroy it?” After looking around at them all, He said to him, “Stretch out your hand!” And he did so; and his hand was restored. But they themselves were filled with rage, and discussed together what they might do to Jesus.” ‭‭Luke‬ ‭6‬:‭6‬-‭11‬ ‭ “On the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread, Paul began talking to them, intending to leave the next day, and he prolonged his message until midnight.” ‭‭Acts‬ ‭20‬:‭7‬

[@janiceeteme5536]

There is no foundation for the change of the Sabbath in Scripture. True followers of Christ will love Him and keep all ten commandments, not just nine. Sunday observance is the "mark of Papal authority". The Sabbath is the seal of God. (Ezekiel 20:12,20) (Isaiah 58:13,14) (Revelation 14:12)

[@janiceeteme5536]

If God could have changed His law Jesus would not have needed to die and resurrect to redeem mankind. Christ did not come to change the law; He came to fulfill it. (Matthew 5:16-17) Jesus Christ is the embodiment of the law. Prayerfully read Romans chapter 8. We are not saved by keeping the law. This is very clear in the Scripture. We OBEY God's law because we LOVE HIM. (John 14:15) We are empowered to obey God by receiving CHRIST'S RIGHTEOUSNESS by faith. We are saved by THE BLOOD OF JESUS THE JUST SHALL LIVE BY FAITH

[@ThethomasJefferson]

@@janiceeteme5536 I showed you that Yeshua said he is the lord of the sabbath and that means it’s not about the day. You can not show an ounce of evidence that not worshiping Yahweh on the Sabbath is the mark of the beast.

[@janiceeteme5536]

@@ThethomasJefferson The day is indeed not the issue. The issue is who's AUTHORITY do you acknowledge. Sunday worship is the mark of Papal authority, not God's authority. Whatever God tells us to do, we ought to do it because He said to do it

[@xyberfunk]

And Jesus said to them, “Watch out and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees (Mat16:6)

[@jedimasterham2]

I think your statement applies to Calvinism, which is a cult that includes eccentric theology. This cult’s theology is eccentric because they deny the Biblical text, distort Christ’s atonement, and believes we are robots. This ministry is Calvinism, which means this ministry is part of a cult.

[@traditionalgirl5585]

I have Mormons in my family; one is a bishop. It seems they are into conjuring spirits in the temple, so I wouldn't say they were only focussed on the physical realm.

[@traditionalgirl5585]

@@IbelievethereforeIam agreed.

[@jonathanettinger6970]

No, there is no conjuring of spirits in our temples. You may perhaps be misunderstanding or the one from whom you got it is the one who misunderstands. Though I must ask; you say Mormons: are they members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints or a different church who uses the Book of Mormon? When I say "our temples", I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I can't speak to what others do.

[@LauRoot892]

@@jonathanettinger6970 Jon 🙄

[@jonathanettinger6970]

@@LauRoot892 and eyes are rolling because...??

[@LauRoot892]

@@jonathanettinger6970 lol 😆 where are you From ?? Nice 😊 meeting you !😆💕

[@angloaust1575]

All churches can be off centre Keep to bible trust in Holy Spirit For guidance!

[@jtfairchild3838]

The word ..Cult.. comes from the term .. Culture ... All religious order is a type of Culture or Society ..but id it Good or bad ? Is it True according to God and the Bible ? or is it fake or false or deceptive

[@crushedrighthand3090]

Is freemasonry considered a cult?

[@Justyn918]

Yes

[@ThethomasJefferson]

They wouldn’t count as a cult, seen as they do not have a following of beliefs like a religious organization. They are a group of individuals that have beliefs in any higher power that are working to better the community. They are far from what they were 100, 200 or so years ago and they are nothing of what you hear of them.

[@crushedrighthand3090]

@@ThethomasJefferson Belief in "any higher power" other than the triune God, which Jewish Kabballah denies, is certainly a cult. good try though.

[@ThethomasJefferson]

@@crushedrighthand3090 expect that is not their main focus, it would be one thing if the organization was like a religious organization like a “church” this is a club not a “church” so by definition it not. If you go based of the definition Merriam-Webster cult noun ˈkəlt often attributive 1 : a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious (see SPURIOUS sense 2) also : its body of adherents the voodoo cult a satanic cult 2 a : great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work (such as a film or book) criticizing how the media promotes the cult of celebrity especially : such devotion regarded as a literary or intellectual fad b : the object of such devotion c : a usually small group of people characterized by such devotion the singer's cult of fans The film has a cult following. 3 : a system of religious beliefs and ritual also : its body of adherents the cult of Apollo 4 : formal religious veneration : WORSHIP 5 : a system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator Trust me, my father-in-law is part of the freemason, I have others, and I was asked to join. It is just a club and not a cult.

[@michaeljamesbenjamin]

I was a Freemason, I got saved and couldn’t remain. I chose to leave because you can’t speak about Jesus in Lodge. You may offend someone who believes in a different ‘god’ than you do. I would say yes, it is a cult, in the sense that it is trying to suppress Jesus through this universalism type of fraternity. I always wondered if they would be involved in the ‘one world religion’.

[@Floweroftheprairie2720]

So much new age religion and pagan religions are slowly invading the church today. From oils to yoga to the language of those religions. “Vibes” and “essence”

[@flatlander6928]

6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. 7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. Think about that one really hard!

[@janiceeteme5536]

Revelation 14:12 Exodus 20:8-11 Ezekiel 20:12 Ezekiel 20;20 Isaiah 13; 9-11 Revelation 1:7 John 14:15 Genesis 2:1-3 Isaiah 8:20 Isaiah 58:13,14

[@janiceeteme5536]

@@IbelievethereforeIam I listed Scripture. The ten commandments have NOT been done away with. The ceremonial law was abolished at the cross. Revelation and John are in the NEW TESTAMENT

[@janiceeteme5536]

@@IbelievethereforeIam Read the ten commandments

[@jlewis8145]

@@janiceeteme5536 I hope you are not going to church on the Sabbath. You are breaking the commandment. Exodus 16:29 See, for that the Lord hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.

[@jlewis8145]

God started the church on a Sunday. It was called Pentecost. 50 days after Passover. Lev. 23 and Acts 2

[@janiceeteme5536]

@@jlewis8145 wow....🙏

[@Funkydood]

Christian, and only Christian. That is what I am spiritually and/or religiously speaking. "Evangelical, Catholic, Arminian, Calvinist, Lutheran, Wesleyan, Baptist", etc., are human inventions.

[@randyg666]

As is the Bible......cheers!!!

[@johndodson8464]

Plato taught the spirit/matter dichotomy. But the Bible has a body/soul HARMONY. Both are real.

[@janiceeteme5536]

William Miller studied the 2300 day prophecy. October 22, 1844 was the anti typical day of atonement. Jesus Christ went into the MOST HOLY PLACE to begin the INVESTIGATIVE JUDGMENT. Daniel 8:14

[@IbelievethereforeIam]

Wasn't Daniel talking about the Jewish Temple? The Heavently Temple needed cleansing?

[@janiceeteme5536]

@@IbelievethereforeIam When Jesus resurrected from laying down His life on the cross to save us; He went back to heaven to begin His ministry in the Holy place of the heavenly sanctuary. He applied His blood to every sinner that accepts Him as Lord and Savior. The earthly sanctuary (the sanctuary that Israel was instructed to build in the wilderness and that King Solomon built in Jerusalem) was a "type" pointing to the actual sanctuary in heaven (Revelation 11:19). Daniel 8:14 points to the anti-typical day of atonement! Meaning that Christ went into the most holy place to begin the judgment of those who had died down through the ages Christ is still out High Priest completing this work of judgment in the most Holy Place of the heavenly sanctuary until probation closes for all mankind. Read Daniel 12:1.

[@IbelievethereforeIam]

@@janiceeteme5536 OKAY, CHRIST, died and was RESURRECTED to the Right Hand of God. He is SINCE HIGH PRIEST, INTERCEDING... Miller said, in 1844 October 22, CHRIST started to INTERCEDE?

[@janiceeteme5536]

@@IbelievethereforeIam No, Christ started the time of investigative judgment. Meaning all those who had died before and had believed by faith or not believed in the Messiah ( Jesus) by faith we're being judged. Those coming after, living at that time were also being judged. Every generation from the beginning of time until now is being judged. We are living in the time of judgement. This goes directly in line with the Sanctuary service and with the 3 angel's message of Revelation 14:6-12. On the day of atonement ( which came once a year) for Israel! All sins had to be confessed and in the sanctuary so that on the day of atonement the blood shed by the lamb could atone for and wash away ALL sin ( cleanse the sins out of Sanctuary). This is why it is so important for All of God's people to STUDY THE SANCTUARY MESSAGE The whole plan of salvation is IN THE SANCTUARY. We as God's people are SPIRITUAL ISRAEL. Please pray and ask the Holy Spirit to teach you the truth of the Sanctuary message. The Holy Spirit is The Spirit of Truth. He will guide you into all truth. This is a promise from God's word.

[@IbelievethereforeIam]

@@janiceeteme5536 Thank you for taking the time to clarify, I will try to understand what you are explaining... but, the Old Testament saints, are SAVED, because they were looking forward, by FAITH, to MESSIA, Abraham's Seed... I appreciate your efforts, regards

[@johncornishjr8383]

2 Peter ch.2

[@naamhaisiddhu]

💚

[@claudialsmith2996]

Further away from the spiritual life of Our LORD.

[@johndodson8464]

Interesting how many of these cult founders are women preachers.

[@LauRoot892]

Where are you from 😒

[@LauRoot892]

@@johndodson8464 say it silly, Howdy 🤠 from Oregon ! Interested in talking ?😁😘

[@LauRoot892]

@@johndodson8464 Oh ! You’re a Truck Driver ? What social media you Got ??😾😼

[@janiceeteme5536]

The Papacy is the 1st beast of Revelation 13. The Papacy is the anti-christ.

[@randyg666]

No . The1st beast is the internet

[@janiceeteme5536]

@@randyg666 🤣🤣you have a point... Just speaking prophetically. The world systems are indeed corrupt

[@carmenforsyth1313]

👼. Amen!.👼.

[@janiceeteme5536]

The United States should always have freedom of religion. GOD NEVER FORCES ANYONE TO LOVE OR SERVE HIM GOD IS LOVE

[@cheryladams9261]

Jesus is God! When you believe that He died for your sins, and rose from the grave 3 days later where He ascended into heaven and you believe that you are saved by His grace, you are saved. No other gods. He is God alone.

[@sharonlatour6230]

@@cheryladams9261 AMEN Sister!!!

[@janiceeteme5536]

@@cheryladams9261 Yes we are saved by grace through faith. Being saved by grace does not give us a license to disobey God

[@janiceeteme5536]

And yes Jesus is God We are saved by The Blood Jesus shed for us on calvary

[@janiceeteme5536]

@@IbelievethereforeIam ???

[@bibliamensajeycalculo5088]

so now every church is some kind of cult according to this speaker... i think that he is a fallower of Calvin

[@wanda520]

He is a reformed minister.He is a God follower

[@TheRealJimW]

Looks like somebody got his cult toes stepped on.

[@rhondae8222]

Yes, he is a Reformed Calvinist and a follower of God (Christ), and so am I. 😊

[@bibliamensajeycalculo5088]

@@TheRealJimW it might be Calvin and his followers

[@DogSoldier1948]

Calvin got the credit but reformed theology started with Augustine and the teaching of the apostles. That's the reason it's called reformed. The reformed theologians returned the gospel back to it's original meaning. 🙏

[@JohnWilliams-yv7ul]

I guess aftee the my brother was pronounced dead in the hospital in salt lake than my dad flew uo that night to see the body of his son hours later and prayed in Jesus name that my brother rose and walked out was all a lie. Ill go tell my brother he needs to die again because God nol longer does miracles also the two doctors qho repented and where led to Christ and study the Bible and accept Christ shkuld go back to being atheists

[@johnlawson6851]

The center is a Jewish Messiah and the law. Not Catholicism.

[@johnlawson6851]

@@LauRoot892 What's up!

[@LauRoot892]

@@johnlawson6851 Where are you from ? What social media you got ? Nice 😊 meeting you ❤️

[@johnlawson6851]

@@LauRoot892 I'm from merca My KZbin is "Kingdom Seekers"

[@brittanykrieger5828]

They are not a cult. They are a Christian church. I watch the service every Saturday sabbath.

[@terryconnor2000]

Who are NOT a cult??

[@JoeRHodges]

Who please?

[@jonathanettinger6970]

I've barely gotten 8 minutes into this and how "Mormons" have been portrayed is far more wrong than right. First; "Mormons" can refer to any who consider The Book of Mormon to be scripture. It is not strictly limited to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Second; we, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, do not teach that ALL Christianity was gone. It's not a simple all or nothing proposition. Third; I don't know what he read where, but we definitely do not teach that the Holy Ghost had a body, gave it up, will get it back, etc. Fourth; saying we will each (much less only men) get our own planet is, at best, a misunderstanding, at worst a deliberate misportrayal, of what we actually teach about exaltation. If you want to look at nearly 2000 years of "Christianity" and hold those long-held teachings against those of my church, one cannot merely assume that something taught for the past, say, 400 years, much less 1200 or 1700, is necessarily correct. For instance, the Nicene idea of the Trinity is not declared in the Bible. It wasn't even decreed in council by consensus. It was simply majority vote declaring others to be heretics and then using scripture to justify the position by intentionally interpreting it to fit their pre-set outcome of a declaration. Believe me or don't, but I've seen no clear evidence that God left bishops in charge and that they could decree anything by majority vote, much less that a Bible they compiled is a suitable alternative, either to those Bishops or the very apostolic authority they claim to hold. Too many of today's beliefs are built upon years and years of suppositions and other assumptions.

[@JoeRHodges]

All of that is good and well. I have a question for you. Who is Jesus Christ? Where did He come from?

[@flatlander6928]

@@JoeRHodges I’ll bite! In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, THE WORD WAS GOD. Great is the MYSTERY of Godliness, GOD WAS MANIFEST IN THE FLESH. There, They, Crucified, HIM, God in the flesh.

[@LauRoot892]

@@JoeRHodges Where are you from 😒

[@numbers22_28]

Sects are departures from what the word teaches, one of the most destructive departures being faith only heresy and also the nonsense called Calvinism.

[@mikemccormick9667]

Martin Luther is a saint. Not the apostate Roman Catholic saint but someone that called out their heresy of selling indulgences for the redemption of souls. Not sure what bible you have but mine says this Ephesians 2:8-10 New International Version 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. The works are a result of being saved. BY FAITH ONLY!

[@numbers22_28]

@@mikemccormick9667 All christians are saints. Luther was not a christian. The Roman Catholic church was and is an evil institution. Luther was a false teacher and faith only is massive heresy.

[@mikemccormick9667]

@@numbers22_28 How arrogant is sinful man that he THINKS he can do anything to add to the crucifixion and Resurrection of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. That is heresy!

[@numbers22_28]

@@mikemccormick9667 Well we can not add to His word whichbis what faith only proponents do.

[@mikemccormick9667]

Ephesians 2:8-9 New International Version 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.

[@agustaharting21]

I’m surprised that a man with this high degree of education, doesn’t know the difference between the English words: “idea” and “ideal” 😓

[@JoeRHodges]

Point of reference please? And how do you know what his credentials are?

[@janiceeteme5536]

This man is preaching false doctrine. Pray Study God's word for yourself.

[@jgarcia5214]

How so?

[@Maximus_W]

@@jgarcia5214 she defended William Miller in the main comment section. Probably just a Seventh Day Adventist that doesn’t like the truth being taught!

[@janiceeteme5536]

@@jgarcia5214 The Papacy is the anti-christ

[@rhondae8222]

Repent of your ignorance of the Word of God (Christ). Clearly, you are blinded by biblical truth.

[@janiceeteme5536]

@@rhondae8222 😁🙏 Jesus is soon to come. God bless you