The rise of using PIT maneuvers by Arkansas State Police | THV11+

[@Condor512]

I watched a pursuit a couple months ago that went for over an hour, covering 100+ miles. The suspect WAS caught. And subsequently convicted of Felony Fleeing. He got 17 Years in an Arkansas Prison! (as one Trooper told a suspect he was arresting after a pursuit; 'Nobody escapes the Arkansas State Police'. 😁)

[@iDrunkRS]

17 years for fleeing? Holy shit, p3dos get 5.

[@ValentinaRacing1]

Pull over?

[@REAL-UNKNOWN-SHINOBI]

Especially if they are an innocent bystander that just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time, and gets on the receiving end of a pit maneuver that was either executed badly or by mistake on their own vehicle.

[@BanannaWinner]

Can't believe this story is so poorly researched that they didn't mention the Legendary Trooper Byrd.

[@oveidasinclair982]

The Byrdman of Arkansas is a true legend

[@markbrethauer3042]

bet the poor dead soul at 10:04 wished they could have stopped him quicker....yes high-speed chases need a mandatory prison time!!

[@groper.not.grouper9501]

or not to happen anymore dummy

[@norme2681]

I like the Arkansas pit policy to end the pursuit quickly. You see other states who are reluctant to pit and and chase goes on for hours or until what I call a "citizen pit" when a innocent citizen is involved in a wreak with the suspect. I also like the felony charge with 3 to 6 years jail time. The Attorney General said it's simple pullover or go to prison.

[@bigc8300]

wreak?

[@yakopc6600]

Bro it's not "pull over or go to prison" If I'm trying to pull over and a cop sends me into the woods at mach jesus, is more of like "die or die"

[@nooneanybodyknows7912]

​@@yakopc6600When you see blue lights behind you, stop. It's easy. It's the pedal on the left.

[@yakopc6600]

@@nooneanybodyknows7912 no! Lkterally not, you Signal you are pulling over and you so so when its safe so.

[@nooneanybodyknows7912]

@@yakopc6600 Yes, stop immediately. 🛑

[@bkksneed]

I fully support the ASP and their use of this TVI policy. Thank you for keeping us safe in NEA!

[@Colorado_Native]

Safe? Did you look at the numbers of injured and killed? You just want to watch PIT maneuvers on youtube. Right? Many states are scaling these back, and for good reason.

[@Mogadypopz]

U shoulnt be allowed to vote 😂

[@289Mustang67]

@@Colorado_Native Many people are pressuring states to get more aggressive with criminals, and for good reason. California gets a lot of criticism for not intervening in pursuits, for example.

[@Colorado_Native]

@@289Mustang67 True, go read the COPS-R1134 report by the DOJ. They DOJ suggests that PITs should not be done above 35mph because of the energy. A car going 10 mph has 100 units of energy. If a car is going 35mph it has 1,225 units of energy. You would think a car going 70 mph would have twice the energy, right? But energy squares at the rate of speed. So, a car going 70 mph actually has 4900 units of energy, so it actually has four times the energy. A car going 105 mph has 11,025 units of energy, or about nine times the energy of a 35 mph car even though it is only traveling three times faster. The youtube geniuses don't understand the risks or dangers of this. Is chasing someone putting several lives in danger (many of those innocent) really worth it. An Arkansas man was recently killed when he was stopped in a PIT at 126mph, nearly crashing into an oncoming car. His crime? Shoplifting. Should he have stopped? By all means. The California Highway Patrol doesn't allow PITs above 35mph. Hundreds of people have been injured. The agencies don't report these statistics, so there are no national statistics. Would we solve bank robberies by blasting away with no real regard? I don't think so. Would you fly on an airliner that said, "Well, we got nine of ten aircraft down safely."? Why should law enforcement be allowed to put innocent citizens' lives at risk, especially when they know the license number, etc.? The CHP has implemented way better policies and procedures. I know a lot of fans of PIT maneuvers will spam me, but they won't do any real research. Thanks for the reply.

[@madadisr]

@@289Mustang67 There's a difference with actively fleeing cars and one that slowed down to a respectable speed and had flashers on acknowleging they understood. Where should they have pulled over, the emergency lane on the right wasn't wide enough.

[@brucesumner6993]

Their needs to be a policy change. Stop immediately, or get your ass TVI'd. How many criminals have we seen put on their hazard lights, only to continue to evade?

[@MadFox-jr6by]

She drove for 2 minutes without slowing down There was a shoulder there, she could have pulled over and let the cop know that she would prefer to pull over at the exit if possible. @@markdavich5829

[@bigc8300]

WOW.😵@@markdavich5829

[@Colorado_Native]

So you are equating a few people who are following the procedure, such as in this case, with criminals. Oh, that's brilliant.

[@Mogadypopz]

Everything you said is circumstantial

[@mikeh8416]

@@Colorado_Native The "procedure" is until you find a safe place to stop. She had a FULL SIZE breakdown lane to her right. That makes HER a criminal.

[@jefferyfurman1354]

This is what arkansas state police are most known for KZbin has many of arkansas police doing pits especially at 100 miles hr pits.

[@k5laman]

I'm probably one of the biggest "Fans" of ASP & their Y. T. Videos. I stand for the "Blue" & always will, However I cannot condone this officer's actions & attitude! The Lady should've been allowed to proceed as she was, to an area with a wider area of safety before stopping (A shoulder, exit ramp etc.) It's not like she was running 140 in a stolen Charger, You know?

[@nukedukem1]

You're part of the problem. Suck it up, buttercup.

[@Shadowscope345]

Exactly. She slowed down and did everything the manual said she do whilst she found a safe place to pull over. Officer fully in the wrong here.

[@frankwhitson2191]

​@@Shadowscope345: Did you notice that they didn't mention anything about pitting the wrong white cat ? Two cars, one being white, were racing on a divided highway, cop pitted the first white car he saw!! Occupants said they were "uninjured" but what about their mental health?? And their fucked up car? Cop reportedly retired so NO charges could be brought!! Hope his stupid ass gets sued big time and loses ALL his benefits including his pension¡!! I'd love to hear updates on this dildo of a cop !!!

[@michaelcaldwell8486]

Good for u stupid

[@MadFox-jr6by]

She should have stopped on that right shoulder, expressed her concerns to the officer, I'm sure he would have let her drive up to a wider area to pull over.

[@kittyhawk7060]

A traffic infraction should not warrant a pit maneuver. Get the license number and stop the pursuit. Stopping the pursuit will cause the fleeing person to slow down. Police can always go to the residence to issue a ticket.

[@rk-us3zl]

An infraction doesn't warrant a pit maneuver (scott V harris). That's why this trooper was disciplined and the lady was offered a settlement. He's lucky she wasn't hurt, he probably would have faced criminal charges and for sure a 1983 suit. You can't issue a citation if you don't see the driver actually driving the car. That's if it's even a real plate. Fake temp tags, stolen plates and vehicles that were sold and haven't been updated are common. Also it is common to steal a car and then go commit other crimes with it. The car isn't always reported stolen in a timely manner.

[@mikewilliams2072]

I have said this so many times , even if they have stole something make sure it is more than a pack of cigarettes before using pit!

[@mrdayyumyum3712]

stolen car, drugs, warrants, or stupid are the runners

[@dman7175]

Not to mention it's very entertaining to watch

[@MosheHaMayim4591]

I have watched dozens of these pits and the drivers always keep going. Often, after refusing to pull over, they get off of the freeway and race through busy parts of town and through neighborhoods including school zones with no regard for other peoples safety. Running through red lights at 80 - 100+ MPH. They also turn off their lights at night and drive into oncoming traffic at high speeds to try and get away. Go get them Arkansas.

[@joemann7971]

Doesn't excuse risking the lives of Innocent people. They need a better solution. Doesn't make sense to be treating all citizens as major criminals for minor traffic violations.

[@SteveZeee]

@@joemann7971 "Risking the lives of innocent people" is exactly what PIT maneuvers prevent. ASP stops fleeing suspects as fast as possible to prevent them from crashing into innocent motorists. "They need a better solution." Go on; I'm listening. "Doesn't make sense to be treating all citizens as major criminals for minor traffic violations." They're not. In Arkansas, fleeing a traffic stop (and driving recklessly while doing so) is a Class D felony. If they injure someone, it's a Class C felony.

[@Mogadypopz]

Blue lives dont matter?

[@pdean5616]

I know. You don't want to pull over like all the law abiding citizens. Gotcha and know exactly who you are.@@joemann7971

[@mikewilliams2072]

That is what I am talking about if the trooper would back off after he has gotten their tag number the person running has no reason to continue to flee at high rate of speed , the trooper has his tag number to call in to all other officers in the area maybe one of them can stop him without endangering innocent bystanders or maybe catch him trying to get home slowly sneaking down the back streets!!!

[@JRM1371]

You don't want someone else to stop you in their own way? STOP ON YOUR OWN! Those are your choices, on the road and everywhere else. FAFO.

[@burtpanzer]

BTW, in your graphic animation, the engine's fan is usually at the front of the vehicle.

[@doctaber2213]

They have reversible drive trains now. It's a new feature.

[@Truthteller100]

Pit videos are the best.

[@bobcarrigan1742]

Why doesn't every police department have the grappler system?

[@thisisnotmyrealname9049]

It’s being used in over 30 states now. They get used more than most people realize, we just don’t hear about most instances. The problem is that not every cruiser has one so they have to be called in to join the chase. In this case, the officer was clearly in life threatening danger from the slow moving pregnant woman with hazards on trying to pull over, so he needed to put an immediate stop to this reckless chase because it was putting the lives of him and possibly hundreds of innocent civilians at risk. Can you imagine what would have happened if he waited even one more minute before he heroically put a stop to this?

[@coleman4840]

Because I did not quite care to read the other persons long winded essay (no offense to them) it also comes down to budgets and funding. One grappler may not be expensive from most departments but going through the process of retrofitting squad cars, taking them out of service, and all that stuff can elevate the cost tremendously versus simply using the push bumper to its fullest capability.

[@davidhelfrich2511]

They should look into the Grappler system. $5000.00 initially cost and $400.00 replacement net. Spending that much on wrecked patrol car,injuries and lawsuits. That less endangerment to everyone.

[@rolltide9547]

The driver of the fleeing vehicle are responsible for everything. .

[@scottfrederick1614]

Whatever it takes to stop the people breaking the law.

[@DaveBigDawg]

The first pit You know that the trooper just wanted to say he used the maneuver Plain and simple

[@slowhyundai]

or maybe he wanted to stop the car fleeing from him, like the hundreds of other cars that try to run from them

[@prmayner]

@@slowhyundai I don't think she was fleeing; you can wake up now.

[@slowhyundai]

@@prmayner well, when you don’t pull over to the side when cops are engaging you to, it’s kind of considered fleeing

[@presterjohn9088]

There was zero risk of death or serious bodily harm in the first video. The PIT was totally unnecessary and the officer was disciplined, the woman was financially rewarded and the policy was changed. ASP clearly needed a policy change and from the stats it looks like ASP still uses the PIT maneuver too often. This video alone shows how dangerous the maneuver is, with one PIT sending the car into oncoming traffic. The veteran police trainer specifically said that the PIT wasn't designed to be used at speeds over 35 mph.

[@stevegibson743]

I wish more agencies had and aggressive and common sense-based chase policy like Arkansas. Time to stop being soft on crime.

[@RobertAcosta-ii6ip]

Crayon eater comment

[@stevegibson743]

@@RobertAcosta-ii6ip you must be a Democrat. What flavor is your favorite color of crayon 🖍?

[@frankclements1431]

there are a lot snowflakes crying over pitting. this is the beginning of how california ended up with follow the leader in traffic violations.

[@theresagluckhertz8064]

The Arkansas State Police are the best in the country at the PIT maneuver.

[@mikewilliams2072]

Yeah they get more practice than anyone else, they will pit you at the drop of a hat!

[@ElCid70]

The Arkansas policy and practice should be used in all 50 states.

[@wendellmurphy5249]

The answer is easy, Don’t run from the police 🤷‍♂️ and you won’t get pitted!

[@knos360]

Yeah you didnt listen to well..and I am gonna assume you and some Hillbilly from Arkansas everybody laughs at you guys.

[@gutterpunkbobby]

Found the bootlicker~

[@brucesumner6993]

@@gutterpunkbobby Better to be thought a fool, than type and remove all doubt.

[@gutterpunkbobby]

@@brucesumner6993 Ok? You statists always think you're the smart ones. I, personally, just can't believe you stopped suckling on that boot leather long enough to type this. Good for you!

[@Shadowscope345]

She wasn't running though?

[@CaneCorsoZ]

Pit Maneuvers should be mandatory

[@RobertAcosta-ii6ip]

*illegal

[@111jacare]

Silly question: Who of you can recall a road runner cartoon where Wylie Coyote built a brick wall that popped up out of the ground, across a road? Now, why is it not possible to set up spike strips in a similar manner? Have them spread across the State on arterial roads, freeways and secondary roads, and have them activated by central control, or an officer on site? They are saying that they are not able to get in front of a suspect that is fleeing, as they do not know where they are going. Well, set up the freeways, off ramps and other road networks with this system, and take the tyres out of the fleeing vehicle! The other thing that needs to be borne in mind is that the public does have a DUTY OF CARE towards the officer. The officers are their own worst enemies with some of the things that they do. One of the most stupid things that is done is standing between the two stopped vehicles. 4 police officers were killed in Victoria, Australia, in April 2020 when a semi trailer ran into the back of one enforcement vehicle, then slamming that into a second enforcement vehicle and into the stopped car. If on a freeway with cement on both sides, I will not stop, as that is a hazard to both me and the officer. Where there is a grass verge on the right; or, an open median strip where one can stop behind a W rail or a wire barrier, that is where I would be looking to stop. I have seen too many "accidents" where a vehicle has run into either the back of the enforcement vehicle, or, taken the stopped vehicle out. It is too easy to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. You can not recover from death.

[@mikewilliams2072]

Agreeded 100%

[@thatonerat6683]

What is it always Arkansas? Two months ago, they pit maneuvered a wrong car Four months ago , they pit maneuvered a car that was going to the hospital Three days ago, they pit maneuver this car and It flipped over.

[@monicahernandez2876]

Keep up the GREAT WORK ASP. I totally support the PIT. I love watching your videos. DON’T MESS WITH ASP. That simple 😂

[@ian5780]

Yea this video is a hit piece on the people of Arkansas.obviously.

[@jimbenton7191]

It is prudent to acknowledge the affect of the open border with regards to this issue. These guys encounter some bad hombres. I support ASP fully and would like to positively increase the public’s awareness of what these folks face for public safety on a daily basis. I personally believe we should increase the spending on the maintenance of these vehicles. Any vehicles capable of speeds north of 130 should start each shift with new tires and the best braking system on earth that will fit that vehicle.

[@bigc8300]

There all black and asking to call there mommy.

[@kd5you1]

I would like to know why so many people are running from police in Arkansas, and how do their statistics compare to other states? Obviously in Hawaii it would be pointless to run because there is no where to go but in circles, and Rhode Island takes about 5 minutes to get out of the state in any direction.

[@ts.elliot5870]

This was totally unnecessary. Cops needs to dial it back.

[@williamcarl4200]

Sad all law enforcement officers can't read minds.

[@jamesmcneal4539]

The pit maneuver should never be used. It's attempted murder in my opinion

[@mikewilliams2072]

Yeah, it's just like the cops are always say if you are driving and drinking you are a 5,000 lb deadly weapons, I guess the deadly weapon thing doesn't count if you are a cop performing a pit, what was I thinking!

[@milepost4846]

Have fun in your store and bank robberies, drug runs and drunk driving while you run away in high speeds from the police jamesmcneal4539.

[@ericpigg2689]

But fleeing from the police at 100mph plus is not attempted murder? Got it. They always have the option to pull over when they see blue lights. What happens to them after they fail to do that is 100% on them.

[@todddavis240]

Go watch the AR chase videos, they PIT at speeds over 130 mph, its insane and deadly to the officers doing it.

[@hangemhigh5181]

Pull your ass over and the PIT isn’t necessary.

[@bigc8300]

Yea but fun to watch.

[@AcuraLvR82]

@@bigc8300 criminal justice aka policing is not supposed to be a form of entertainment.

[@bigc8300]

But it is funny watchin them cry for there mommy! LRHN has some good ones.@@AcuraLvR82

[@DarrylWatts-le1yk]

It's amazing how quick they are to destroy somebody's car and the county's vehicle with no regard for safety of individuals. One coward has already guit because he hit the wrong person. What's going to take to stop this shit in arkansas

[@ua21venture]

Every time you run should be mandatory jail time until court date. Period!

[@GK-ji3pm]

This trooper was reckless and dangerous...He didn't even follow the law.This lady did what she was supposed to do, as Arkansas allows motorist to slow down and activate their hazard lights and find a safe spot to pull over....This idiot did none of that. He had no idea or regard the dangers of his actions for just a speeding driver. Then the idiot gets out of his car and is so calm in protecting his over the top actions...He then tried to smugly plead his case and justify his reckless behavior instead of immediately calling for medical once the driver advised she was pregnant...It doesn't matter at this point..He was the reckless threat on the street that night and his department acknowledged that. What this trooper should know is that he may feel the Arkansas State law that gave him the so called right in his mind to do such a reckless law , isn't going to matter when he gets himself dragged into Federal court on a use of violation....His attitude of " You got what you deserve" ain't gonna cut it and didn't work for him....He should have been fired...." obey me or else" ain't a reason to flip a car over for initially just speeding.....He should have known and followed the law himself....He should be fired!

[@mikewilliams2072]

I agree

[@modelcitizen2028]

The PIT saves lives! 👮🚓👍

[@JuanRodriguez-mk3yk]

If you pull over, you won't have that problem period.

[@embalmed]

You mean like the white Cadillac that was somehow mistaken for the 300m they were chasing?

[@JuanRodriguez-mk3yk]

@@embalmed I'm guessing here, but, were you at the scene when it happened? There are two sides to each story... First of all, When you see emergency light, as in, Police, Fire EMS, You are required by law, to yield right of way to that emergency unit!! Just incase you don't know what that means, you are required BY LAW, to pull over to the far RIGHT and stop or slow down to allow those emergency units to go by. What happened here was a mistake, nothing more.. Well, nothing more unless you are a cop hating individual, who hates all authority!!!

[@embalmed]

@@JuanRodriguez-mk3yk LOL so when the state chooses violence against civilians, it's acceptable if it's a mistake? You're silly.

[@mikewilliams2072]

Another genius, nobody has ever thought of that!!!!!!

[@milepost4846]

@@embalmed is it violence against civilians if they run around lowered railroad crossing gates in their car and get hit by a train?

[@kevinstevens5519]

ive seen enough of Arkansas state for awhile. Never anything good coming from that state not even police.

[@jasonkorring2533]

Who replacing her suv

[@muscfiorentina]

Who cares

[@madadisr]

@@muscfiorentina your weight lifts are trash

[@kravmaga501]

Just liberal media and the victim mentality. Just stop . Don’t run

[@Shadowscope345]

She wasn't running. She was literally finding a safe place to pull over. Watch the video.

[@billowney8080]

I've watched many ASP pursuit videos and have yet to see a reporter pulled out from one of these wrecks. Nor have I EVER heard a journalist support running from the police. It's MAGA and Trump that are teaching disrespect of our courts and laws. The increase in pursuits have come since Trump came to power. That, sir, is fact.

[@CM-ve1bz]

@@Shadowscope345 SHE was 1 in a thousand wasn’t she. Let’s not be like the leftist states and change an entire state policy because of one mistake. Or do you prefer let them go and maybe catch them later and let’s not forget no prosecutions for theft under a thousand dollars. Then the whole state can be as great as Little Rock.

[@mikewilliams2072]

See what I mean about the geniuses, another one, I bet no one has ever thought about that!!!!!

[@toddhall7416]

The beginning of the video says the trooper deliberately flipped the SUV. He PITs it but did he ever say he deliberately flipped it. I doubt it.

[@michaela4836]

The Judge could & should send perps, to Military Boot Camp instead of Jail there be a lot less dummies,🤔 And there was plenty of room on the breakdown lane entitled brats don't get special treatment or money for intitlement issues.

[@RANDOMNATION907]

Never train your enemy how to fight.

[@kurtkaster5666]

Of course you show the one PIT that ended badly for a person that wasn't all that bad. Please don't change your policy AR. This cop is a complete idiot, don't let him ruin it for everyone else.

[@Mark-v2q]

The cop should have been fired, jailed, and stripped of everything he owns. Blackballed for life.

[@OldschoolRed]

Guess she should have pulled over. Why change policy because of one stupid woman that doesn't understand to pull over when you have a police car behind you. Smdh all you do usmake policy's to go softer on crime Smdh

[@mikewilliams2072]

Here we have another genius

[@jt-xh9un]

@@mikewilliams2072old man can’t see her putting on the blinkers. They tend to lose their vision as they get older

[@brucemoller7012]

I’m thinking if a cop with flashing lights wants you to stop. Just go ahead and stop!! His car will shield you.

[@lilibethdoherty295]

The Criminals want to remove Guns and Drugs from the vehicle before they stop is most often the reason for running from the Police.

[@PK88.]

You do know that it was a pregnant women who wanted to wait till the exit for the safety of her unborn baby right?

[@naturehealthandtruth9672]

@@PK88. "pregnant", just like "I can't breathe", "I was scared", etc.

[@PK88.]

@@naturehealthandtruth9672 The lady in the red SUV was indeed pregnant you can look it up but I doubt you'd do that given all you want to believe are headlines. The other rerards in the video deserve getting pitted but the lady in the red SUV the lady in the thumbnail did not.

[@milepost4846]

@@PK88. yeah yeah yeah....................we know she was. So we want other criminals to get with things based on one screw up to make those like you happy.

[@hadassahsoddsandends]

Saying he "deliberately flips an SUV" is not fair. He was stopping her, and caused her to flip. He was not "deliberately" flipping her. I agree that his actions were wrong, in this case, but to imply he wanted her to flip over is outrageously false! He was just stopping the vehicle.

[@berkbuns]

They should use the Grappler Police Bumper instead. It’s safer.

[@allenjorgensen3931]

It's pretty basic.. if you even have the thought 🤔 that may be Trooper Byrd behind me. Don't run!

[@leomcgee9873]

just stop.

[@mikewilliams2072]

And yet another genius, why is it nobody else every thought of this!!!

[@SunsetStarship]

Love ASP! This ONE case disappears in the over one hundred videos over an hour long each posted here on KZbin. The largest group of offenders so far as I have seen in those videos is teenagers. So, it would seem Arkansas has a parenting problem. Keep the PIT and increase prison time.

[@robertcompton5232]

ASP is doing a great job. Traffic was light in the case of the flipped SUV and yet the driver continued to flee versus pulling onto the shoulder.

[@georgejones3526]

Officer Dunn was terrified that the woman was going to spit her baby out at him.

[@oveidasinclair982]

When you intentionally ignore the police, then this is what happens. She should have pulled over and if the trooper deems it unsafe he will then instruct her on where to go. She doesn't make the rules, she was already breaking the rules of the road to begin with.

[@frankharris3159]

You obviously do not know driving laws and the laws shown in this video. She slowed down and put on flashers according to law. There was shoulder barriers that she didn't feel comfortable pulling next to and was waiting for a full shoulder to pull over onto.

[@Railrider765]

I just totaled ur car....ok?! 😀

[@gailsteidl3707]

Rory-Not Gail: I understand not wanting Scofflaws making a mockery of laws and escaping and I also realize that some violators presenting a continuing danger to other motorists if not stopped. However, the frequency of the PITs, the monetizing and celebration of the ASP PITS on KZbin, and the lack of exigency before executing many of the PITS leads me to the opinion that ASP pits are - frankly - getting ridiculous. Something needs to change. And, I'm a retired LEO.

[@desireelaverne8503]

If you don’t want to get pitted... don't run and don't do crime... Pretty simple really.... Keep pitting!!!! 🙌

[@davidreed6070]

After the pregnant woman they have pitted someone going to the hospital, they have pitted the wrong person. Now they have changed policy so they can Pitt anyone. They have a channel called ARKANSAS POLICE ACTIVITY where they advertise and Bragg about their Pitt maneuvers.

[@brentdale5730]

And it’s awesome!

[@davidreed6070]

@@brentdale5730 for you cops to violate people, you think it's funny, the end will tell the truth.

[@brentdale5730]

@@davidreed6070 Say what?

[@davidreed6070]

@@brentdale5730 what do I need to explain? I don't know what you don't understand. I'm sorry, tell me what you don't know and I will try to explain better.

[@milepost4846]

@@davidreed6070 I'm guessing you violate others by robbing them and breaking into their houses.

[@rods.3245]

People get prison time for way less than what this trooper did.

[@bruisersdilemma354]

I'm pro police, but these pursuits and PITs are so incredibly reckless at times with many happening well over 100 MPH in traffic. I don't get it. Unless its a known felon with guns as was the case in this story, they are putting the public in incredible danger by having sometimes several cops doing over 130 mph meaning you not only have not only the perp speeding, but the cops speeding and risking all kinds of lives. Forget the times when they've done PITs on cars with kids inside....ASP is off the hook with this shit and they need to reign it in...

[@jefferypowell9885]

Also make him pay for her car

[@prmayner]

The first pit was totally uncalled for, what an Idiot cop, he doesn't even know the law. Follow a car for two minutes at 15mph under the speed limit and then pit them, what an a-hole. Some people should be Ice cream truck drivers not policemen. I hope she sued the hell out of them and got millions.

[@Matthew-Anthony]

Police officers pursuing fleeing motorists is almost always justified. However, sentencing drivers to prison for 3 to 6 years if/when they get caught is overkill. Car chases are very dangerous, but that much time is excessive.

[@peskycitizen7582]

If the penalty is stiff enough, maybe ppl will stop running from the police. Some do it just to see if they can evade ASP (aka Blacked out Charger).

[@aaroncook5713]

The only complaint I have is about the first encounter. When you do what the law has stated in the law book and they still violate your rights.. someone said in the the comments she had plenty of room . She did not I used to work the freeway cleanup on caltrans in California those narrow roadway to even get a work crew on there you need two trucks to block the traffic safely . Let alone have a lone officer approach a car safely

[@pdean5616]

They weren't in californis and ASP officers have plenty of left and right side emergency lane to travel at 120mph so stopping in one of those is a no brainer although the law clearly states to pull to the right.

[@jamesexploringonline872]

The problem is, these Arkansas police are pitting vehicles as seen in some cases at over 100mph, a petty crime shoplifters had their mother die, then can be seen the officer boasting about it, there are so many reasons to stop the so called pit manoeuvre and if trooper performs such, he should be made accountable without immunity. The way the cop went on after he pitted a young lady pregnant at the time was sickening, I couldn’t listen to him hence didn’t view the whole incident.

[@dongordon4464]

stop crime by punishing criminals stop crime by stopping criminals - you got that

[@Railrider765]

Flashers don't mean💩!!

[@Shadowscope345]

They dropped charges against her and settled. Think that says it all

[@MadFox-jr6by]

Only because she was legit. 9.5/10 times if someone refuses to pull over within 10 seconds, they are trying to get rid of evidence of prior crimes or ditch their illegal drugs or weapons. @@Shadowscope345

[@bigc8300]

Yep it just makes them an easy target.

[@HJW018]

According to the Arkansas DMV handbook they literally do. You should read it, the book literally says to do what she did.

[@MotoKeto]

Pit maneuvers have there place. The first lady was not going at an excessive speed clearly acknowledged the officer presence. She was not driving erratically pit maneuver was not called for.

[@MadFox-jr6by]

You don't have to speed or drive erratically to pitch your cocaine out the window over 2 minutes of not pulling over!

[@PrettySanatha]

They admit he was wrong but still let him be a cop. America. Smh

[@kebo57]

Hey, we have a president who couldn't possibly pass the mini mental state examination (MMSE) for dementia, yet he is still our president!! 😢

[@dareisnogod5711]

Be quiet, sit down & have another doughnut. Ooops, you are sitting; I thought those were your wings.

[@AnonZero0]

*Typical police malfeasance, corruption--and incompetence.*

[@AnonZero0]

*Pit maneuvers--are not accidents--but rather are deliberate crashes initiated by police.*

[@meaculpamishegas]

The first city’s revised policy was well worded, and by that I mean strategically to be able to deny management responsibility and roll onto on the officer where beneficial. Eliminating all qualified immunity is as stupid as it being blanket policy, police are absolutely vital to our society and by making their profession much more liable than it already will deter people from being able to fill the role since the risk would likely be more than the reward. They are private citizens who shouldn’t be expected to have to over extend themselves to perform their duties. This was a case of poor training and execution though. She as a civilian did a much better job than the cop or the department

[@WoodlandT]

And the nature of the crime involving a vehicle automatically creates exigency in many cases. That’s why officers can execute probable cause arrests on traffic stops without a warrant. Fleeing, potential evidence disappearing because it’s in a vehicle and danger to the public all create exigency and are all inherent to most police pursuits. So the statement doesn’t appear to actually change anything at all. It just names a special condition that already existed

[@DaveRich-d1w]

Its her fault,she knows she must pull over for police i have no sympathy

[@charlesnorris2993]

and this is why they are mandating EMS remote vehicle shutdown on vehicles, sadly its the morons who ruin it for those who obey and respect the law's of our states/country.

[@DDRighteous]

BS. Everyone knows or should know, they need to stop when directed to do so. If they don't, they can not claim, they did not know better.

[@lounaticlouie]

I absolutely support the LEOs. But they need better funding, better training and some restraint. God bless LEOs.

[@AcuraLvR82]

I support the use of pits but after watching hundreds of Arkansas chases here on youtube, there has got to be some better discretion in their implementation. You cannot say these are done in the interests of public safety, when they are done in busy highway traffic, especially noting the video of the trooper flying across the median into oncoming lanes after pitting that truck. Also the video of the maroon Crown Vic being pitted that wasnt really speeding and had several children in the back of the car.

[@johnjohnracer]

Not that I was born with it but if you have xray vision or if you have telepathy then maybe you should join the force. In regards to the maroon crown vic you couldn't see the kids due to the tint.

[@User_1dashzero]

Yeah my support for their pit maneuvers ended with one of the troopers going 120+ in an out of traffic in the middle of night chasing a guy who was gone, and I mean gooonnne. Had not seen the car in like 5 minutes but is still flying 120 through cars.

[@SteveZeee]

Just gonna go ahead and respond to the whole thread here. Remember: For every 1 PIT that goes wrong, there's 100 others that go right and prevent injury and death to the innocent. For the minivan: The PIT was a bad call, but there's no possible way he could know who is occupying the vehicle. He's not telepathic. 14mph over the limit is speeding, so I don't know where this "wasnt really speeding" is coming from. For the PIT into oncoming traffic: Sometimes the vehicle being PIT'd can overcome the force of the attempt (especially with larger and more powerful trucks). I'm not an expert on high-speed pursuit tactics, but it appears the trooper did not apply enough lateral force to destabilize the truck, so the truck just sort of veered and took the trooper with him. When this happens, troopers will often slam on the brakes before they're forced into a barrier or off the road. Why this trooper didn't do that, I don't know. For the trooper who lost the suspect but kept pursuing: Yeah, that was a bad call, but a couple of bad incidents shouldn't be a justification for discontinuing a generally successful practice without a better alternative. I was given a single fish sandwich when I ordered a double at McDonald's, but that doesn't mean I'm going to force them to stop serving fish sandwiches. (Probably a bad comparison, but my life isn't exciting enough to have a good one)

[@danielgatlin7145]

Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

[@W1GGL3Z]

Because the cop knew she was pregnant….. go watch all the chase videos. One of the first things these people do is throw on their flashers to try and deceive a cop to let them keep running. Feeling safe and having somewhere to actually pull over are 2 different things. If she was really concerned about safety why was she doing almost 15 over the speed limit? She’s just trying to use being pregnant as an excuse. Why didn’t she begin stopping when she saw him moving in on her? But sure let’s point our fingers at the cop like always.

[@User_1dashzero]

I watch police chases all the time. No. No they do not turn their hazards on lmao

[@rods.3245]

Worked for OJ, and he's DEFINITELY a criminal.

[@SteveZeee]

@@User_1dashzero You must not watch enough police chases. I've seen plenty of videos where a suspect, at some arbitrary point during the pursuit, turns on their hazards and continues to flee. I can't say I agree with the accusations from the OP, though. The law's a bit muddy as to what a "safe place" to pull over means.

[@loosemoose9799]

You apparently aren't familiar with that section of the interstate. I am and there is no safe place to pull over. It is not unusual for traffic on that road to be 10 to 15 over the limit. The Arkansas drivers manual states that a turn signal and or flashers should be activated, vehicle slowed and then pull over when a safe place is found. It is not safe to pull over in that section of highway where the pit was used. The cop violated the rule that she was following.

[@RobertAcosta-ii6ip]

Crayon eater

[@jjtrucker5950]

It was just two clumps of cells,,,,,,

[@fredabellefleur5418]

Dangerous state to live in. People should know better than run from the law..

[@chrispace9800]

This is what my taxes are paying for? You gotta be kidding

[@mikewilliams2072]

Yeah those new patrol cars don't just fall out of the sky!!!!

[@ericpigg2689]

Yes, your tax dollars are paying for food, clothing and shelter for all of these folks who decide that simply puller over is too much.

[@bcdushman]

The ASP should in my opinion at least look at 'The Grappler' to more safely end pursuits. From all I have read it is safer, less expensive as they are made to be replaced with a new one within hours vs. repair/replace patrol cars, and lowers the possibility of lawsuits due to PIT/TVIs gone bad. Troopers use them effectively here in AZ.

[@terenceporter9786]

Its the cross fire from the PIT and they don't have training on the gravity playing out... The moment they have a clear shot to PIT, they don't look down the road as to where the force of gravity plays out. Just because you have a chance to PIT, does not mean you don't check the surroundings first. Speed is not wind in your face, its the amount of ground your covering. All crashes happen at the same rate of time, but the difference is how much ground your covering and spitting out behind you.

[@phoneuser3d20]

Wait until you see Seacrest County Police do pit maneuvers better than that.

[@Propain4eva]

Grappler needs to be implemented asap

[@juanguzman3686]

Press on ASP!!

[@thekentuckorean2587]

Pull over when being "pulled over". Simple.

[@mikewilliams2072]

So many geniuses on here, nobody but you would have ever thought of that!!!

[@kathullen6517]

ASP is the besT keep it up ASP!!

[@brucedammann1068]

It looks like y'all lost your focus. What happened to the officer who WRONGLY pitted the pregnant lady who was doing the REASONABLE THING of finding a SAFE AREA TO PULL OVER!!! HELL NO-we should not do as this fool said. A driver pulling over in a "SAFE AREA" might actually szve the officer from being hit by another vehicle. I actually had an IDIO TH MORON COP threaten me for NOT STOPPING RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF HEAVY TRAFFIC IN AN ACTIVE DRIVING LANE where there was no shoulder /no safe place to pull over. Power hungry Tyrants who don't even think of their own safety should Not Be Given the powers of Law Enforcement. Power Not Under Control IS A Dangerous Thing, whether it's the power of a vehicle in the hands of a fool, or the powers of authority given to a fool.

[@robertmitchell9276]

And here I am thinking Andrew's first move would have been to order the lunch special.

[@juanguzman3686]

If you only do pits at speeds of 35 or less you know that the perp won't drive under 35. Dam if you do, dam if you don't. 😇😇😇

[@thisisnotmyrealname9049]

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t* Nobody’s trying to stop the flow of a river here.

[@ericwiltz6584]

Well, that was an unfortunate early pit, wrong based on the video presented. That said, it's an absolute necessity in today's society. I also agree with AR state police, they try to minimize public risk and pit early on in most scenarios.

[@kelleymoore6080]

Keep doing the maneuvers.

[@austint1151]

Trooper Byrd for president

[@DBL_U_D]

Next time she will stop. That's all she had to do

[@towmlvb3423]

She was looking for a safe place to stop, while moving at a very controlled and non-aggressive speed. Generalising a situation rarely brings clarity, even more rarely brings justice. I hope this lady received full compensation for the results of the vehicular assault of which she was the victim. In the case of a person driving like a maniac for several miles, a person who was by their actions showing a clear intent to avoid being liable for a traffic violation or worse I would concur, but with the caveat that there could be extenuating circumstances even in such a case. ASP officers apply an uncompromising policy. Somewhere in their chain of command there must be acceptance of responsibility and liability when that policy produces aberrant results. This was clearly the case here. Admitting liability when a decision was unwarranted does not weaken the case in favour of decisions that are warranted. Police decisions are not protected from judgement and blame. Only the weak refuse to accept responsibility for their errors. ASP showed a troubling sign of weakness when they did not swiftly accept that they got this one wrong.