The rise of vertical farming - VPRO documentary - 2017

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Food flats and vertical farming as an alternative to our inefficient food system: in order to do vertical farming in a sustainable way, we must integrate the food production into the urban infrastructure for a significant part. At present, our food system is inefficiently organized: our food travels many kilometers, uses a lot of water, is wasted and pollutes the environment. Nevertheless, the 7 billion inhabitants, often living in large cities, need to be fed. Food flats and vertical farming in urban agriculture are important alternatives to our current inefficient food system.
Original title: Boer zoekt voedselflat
To produce sufficient food for the estimated - nine billion people in 20 years, experiments with vertical farming, rooftop gardening and even sea-farming are being conducted. Food is inefficiently hauled around the world to feed cities and to provide people who live in places where no food can be grown. Two-thirds of all available fresh water is now being used for food production. Two thirds of all water pollution is caused by the use of pesticides. In order to reduce the amount of foodmiles, the distance that takes food between place of production and consumption, and prevent waste, vertical farms are emerging worldwide.
The American company Aerofarms is currently the largest vertical farm in the world. In a former steel factory, looking industrial and raw from outside, and being high tech indoors, the company produces lettuce and vegetable for around 25,000 people in the neighborhood. Aerofarms is putting on this kind of vertical farms in several locations worldwide. Always in the city up to 1.5 kilometers away from a large supermarket or distribution center.
But Aerofarm is not the only one. In cities where it is difficult to supply enough fresh food, local entrepreneurs sniff the opportunities and start city-building initiatives. Sometimes small-scale as a social project, sometimes large-scale and necessary, as in Sweden and Singapore. In the Netherlands this need is smaller. Westland is already being cultivated in a very intensive way. On a relatively small piece of land, tomatoes, peppers and cucumbers are produced for the whole world.
The Netherlands, after the United States, is the second agricultural exporter in the world. Everywhere farmers, gardeners, researchers and mayors come to our country to inform themselves. The combination of the research power of Wageningen University, the experience of growers and the technological knowledge about the possibilities of led lighting that is indispensable for vertical agriculture makes our country unique. But is our position as exporting country to be under pressure as more and more companies from all over the world, with our knowledge, grow their vegetables and lettuce vertically and locally?
With: Dickson Despommier (author The Vertical Farm), Jan-Willem van der Schans (researcher Wageningen University & Research).
Originally broadcasted by VPRO in 2017.
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Credits:
Director: Geert Rozinga
Soundtrack:
Breaking the waves, Get Her Out of Me, Gold Paint Shoot, If anyman thirst, Pan to me, Runway, Shouldn't be too worried - Cliff Martinez
Capable - Ricardo Donoso
Huibu - Recondite
Procedural; Technically, Missing - Reznor, Trent & Ross, Atticus
English, French and Spanish subtitles: Ericsson.
French and Spanish subtitles are co-funded by European Union.

Пікірлер: 266
@olufemiadenekan4657
@olufemiadenekan4657 4 жыл бұрын
Watching this makes me more eager to start farming right here in my house and dream of owing a farm.
@HIT029
@HIT029 4 жыл бұрын
if you do, so many benefits. saving on food, good food, learning experience, saving the environment and one good thing about home gardening is a very distressing activity
@this.is.lapc506
@this.is.lapc506 3 жыл бұрын
My family has begun researching how to begin our own vertical farm ourselves.
@mimus8015
@mimus8015 2 жыл бұрын
thats garbage stop throwing perfektly edible food away. problem solved
@sueferreira9711
@sueferreira9711 4 жыл бұрын
Post-Covid, there will be plenty of empty buildings, which could be used for urban farming. What an opportunity!
@Charliechorizo
@Charliechorizo 4 жыл бұрын
...or cemeteries.
@chadjones4255
@chadjones4255 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, and lots of questions about whether the really bad idea was cities themselves. People will soon be moving out wherever the internet reaches instead of living in crime-infested, expensive, cramped, squalor. And that was before the riots started.
@lgdd5553
@lgdd5553 3 жыл бұрын
0 ASQUITH '0
@this.is.lapc506
@this.is.lapc506 3 жыл бұрын
That's the opportunity coming to Latin America as well. If major countries stop importing important exports from Latino countries and start their own locally grown produce, we will need to find ways to replace our own monocultures with locally grown food that would usually be imported from the USA and the European Union to offset the economic losses.
@alexluvian7978
@alexluvian7978 2 жыл бұрын
This has been a dream of mine I’ve been working on since 2015 when I first discover aeroponics. I will get there one day and this video motivates me even more! Great information! I’m glad this is becoming more and more known to the world
@assog5737
@assog5737 2 жыл бұрын
Same here, it's been a dream of mine also. Ive been growing with LPA (Low pressure aeroponics) Sense 2012. Just on a small scale. I built my own aero systems. Each system has 2, 21 site grow chambers with 1 reservoir. It measures 3'x3'. So thats 42 plants in a 9 s/ft area. And I'm able to use 1 LED light over each system. Which cuts electrical cost dramatically. I wish I could go vertical but I don't have the head room. I do have 4 of these systems. That I run all at the same time. So that's 168 plants in a 36 S/ft area. My dream is to be able to build a vertical rack system. So I can grow all these plants in just a 9 s/ft area. Someday.....
@neckbone3943
@neckbone3943 2 жыл бұрын
I started a aquaponics system a few years ago. Had to take it down because we moved but now I have the space ( and knowledge) to build it bigger and better. The system I built is on my channel if you want to take a look. I'll be posting videos of the new build when I get started. Wave of the future!!! I can't wait to get started again!!
@mathewtekahu9066
@mathewtekahu9066 2 жыл бұрын
Ill be vertical farming in 2 years. I have studied farming for 8 years now and see all the benefits vertical can bring from less labour to less travel, less machinery like tractors trucks and hot weather sweat sore body. Especially doing 100 acres of farming every year. I can see with just 20 to 30 acres I could produce the same amount of crop as when doing 100.
@chitomartinez7128
@chitomartinez7128 3 жыл бұрын
thank you professor a very excellent idea and helping us to save mother earth and how we can help people understand the values of modern farming.and best utilised the remaining land area and learning a vertical farming..I live in UK soon back to Philippines after searching so many videos available in internet while having my day off from works learning from resourceful person like you Professor. All the best Sir. Thank you very as well to VPRO for sharing the video..interested to visit Netherlands for studies in modern farming.
@Sateay
@Sateay 2 жыл бұрын
I will get involved in Vertical Farming eventually. Been seeing a lot of KZbin videos about this topic. And I love it!
@deepdude4719
@deepdude4719 Жыл бұрын
So did you get your vertical farm???
@dicksonelectriccity4293
@dicksonelectriccity4293 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, ok--its absolutely crazy, to learn about "vertical farming," midway through it, one must learn Dutch first.
@biljancanin
@biljancanin 4 жыл бұрын
back when i worked in a greenhouse i have packed around 4.5 - 5 k pieces of salad every day. This is nothing new to me but its sure is nice to see that there are so many people who didnt know that you can grow vegies under a roof. In the western side of Finland, this is as normal as breathing...
@vprodok
@vprodok 4 жыл бұрын
Hi biljancanin, we have also an English channel, if you are interested! kzbin.info/door/9sXw4ZdPEIp6bYGvLW-_iA
@asdfasdf-mn8iu
@asdfasdf-mn8iu 4 жыл бұрын
This is not about growing things in a greenhouse but growing things in the middle of the city, no matter if in a greenhouse or not.
@agbonasikegbe
@agbonasikegbe 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea, this is the future of the real sustainable agriculture
@VeganV5912
@VeganV5912 3 жыл бұрын
@Juan Franculli ; Plaque forms because eating meat is plaque 🧟‍♂️🦠🍖.... no other animal does this, no other animal brushes teeth, and they’re fine, no plaque. You’re not supposed to eat animals. Long long stomachs. Little flat teeth 😬. Are used to eat meat. I had plaque, six months dentist. But now I’m vegan, 6 years vegan. No plaque ever !!! I can’t believe it, and fresh and no Plaque. PH is different. Eating animals has no fibre. Five days or more sitting inside your stomach, putrifying. Fibre is plants and fruit and nuts and lentils and sweet potatoes et cetera. Next day poop. No smell. My feet and socks and armpits absolutely clean and fresh. Believe it !!!! Try it for a month you’ll see. Vegan tacos and vegan burritos and vegan curry and vegan anything you want but vegan ✅❤️😬🦷💪🦵... and I gain weight and muscle on a plant-based diet, Full of strength !!!!! Bonobos and Orangutans and Gorillas are plant-based. They never eat meat et cetera. ✅❤️😬🦷💪🐵🦍. They are 99% the same as us... 1% cancer in the wild !!!! We are herbivores. Scientific fact. Long long stomachs. 🐮🔪⛓😢/😵🔴🦠💩🍖🐰..... 👈🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥...... Go vegan ✅❤️😬🦷💪👍.... You can have vegan burgers and vegan pizza and vegan curry and vegan burritos and vegan tacos...... simple !!! At the grocery department or KZbin delicious vegan food. Low price and no murder. Win-win situation ✅🌎👍
@NuNaKri
@NuNaKri 4 жыл бұрын
Cool! :D Thanks for the cool documentation :D
@vprodok
@vprodok 4 жыл бұрын
H SeelenTaucher, we have also an English channel, check out: kzbin.info/door/9sXw4ZdPEIp6bYGvLW-_iA
@sanelesiya926
@sanelesiya926 4 жыл бұрын
One thing we need is the ability to produce cheap electricity
@vprodok
@vprodok 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Sanele Siya, thanks for your comment. We have also an English channel, perhaps you are interested! Check out: kzbin.info/door/9sXw4ZdPEIp6bYGvLW-_iA
@hundsam2929
@hundsam2929 4 жыл бұрын
Solar
@aulupinar
@aulupinar 4 жыл бұрын
Sanele Siya , as far as I know there at least 3-4 countries which they have been stiil on creating/ inventing precess plasma reactors for free and clean energie... Not bad isn't it?
@mrmichaelcadogan3282
@mrmichaelcadogan3282 4 жыл бұрын
That's easy, we have solar, wind, biomass, just to name a few sources. Energy is becoming cheaper the equipment is becoming less expensive.
@chasl3645
@chasl3645 4 жыл бұрын
@@aulupinar Rossi?
@collinspo
@collinspo 3 жыл бұрын
This is amazing! This could end all importation of the farm produce we think couldn't be grown in certain parts of the world by simply importing data and recreation the environmental conditions.
@ewendyfin
@ewendyfin 4 жыл бұрын
An idea whose time has come. So cool to use shipping containers for a farm. Vertical spaces such as under-utilised buildings are the obvious place to start. But what about mini DIY versions that households could set up themselves. Love it! Thanks for your video. I wish I remembered my high school German so I could understand the non-English part. Well done!
@alexeibernard7577
@alexeibernard7577 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't German... It was Dutch. :)
@JoeZyzyx
@JoeZyzyx 4 жыл бұрын
I always grow my garden with contractor's black plastic over the ground. I put drip hose about every 2'10" apart leaving same distance between last hose each side and edge of plastic, connected to a manifold and pressure regulator. I use 6" land staples to hold the plastic and drip hose in place. I put "L" cuts where I place my "sets" into. One year a catalogued everything produced, compared to that week's store prices every week, since those change each week, and ended up getting over $500 worth of food out of a 20x50 foot garden (the size of one roll of the plastic). I had also punched some small holes down each row in plastic to allow rain water to percolate downward to under the plastic into soil. It meant NO weeding, and NO soil splashing up on plants with various plant disease in it, no plants lying down on soil to get rot, and no hard rains washing soil away, although mine is on flat land, not sloped land. The plastic last 2 years, the drip hose 5-7 years. The plastic this year is $50 for 6mil. The hose here in Maryland is about $22 for every 50' with emitters in it every foot. I use 6 of those, for $132 . I also spend about $45-60 for 300 six or 10 inch deep garden fabric staples. Not including the manifold and connectors, which latter are about $1-2 each, the total inital cost is $50 + 132 + 60 = $242 . This averages out per year to $81.40 if keeping lifetime of each material in mind, expressed as (50÷2)+(132÷5)+(60÷2)=$81.40 Other cost might be some sevin spray at times against bugs, if your backyard garden is discovered by them. Other cost is 50# each year of 10-10-10 fertilizer and one same size bag of lime (my soil is acidic). That adds $15 + $5 = $20. So, you get back 5 times your investment on materials ($500/$102) and no weeding. This is at home garden store prices here in maryland, just checked the current ones today. (Lowes). If every 2x2 foot held a single plant it would be 250, but no room to safely enter the middle area, so leave some more space like 2x3, allowing 165 plants.
@redbunnyclassic
@redbunnyclassic 3 жыл бұрын
Can you kindly share pictures. Am inspired by the simplicity.💯
@KK-gc5lj
@KK-gc5lj 4 жыл бұрын
The background music is like in a horror movie 💀
@seanleith5312
@seanleith5312 3 жыл бұрын
Because the population growth is crazy. Even through we can feed that many people, should it grow uncontrollably? And all the growth come Africa, Asia, those undesirable people. It is crazy.
@Balanced3645
@Balanced3645 Жыл бұрын
That's because what is being grown is more than likely fit for or to make one into Frankenstein...Pure plastic probably 🤔😅 Good grief! The sun needs to speed up its process! 🌋🔥🌋🔥🌋🔥🌋🔥🌋🔥🌋🔥🌋🔥🌋🌋🔥🌋🔥🌋🔥🌋🔥🌋🔥🌋🔥🌋🌋🔥🌋🙏🏾
@Balanced3645
@Balanced3645 Жыл бұрын
Local real food.... gov'ts. truly don't want well informed, well educated critical thinkers...This looks like food produced for or either to turn one into a walking dead...
@roi2212
@roi2212 4 жыл бұрын
13:40 but why is it packaged in plastic???
@banyakkaya1567
@banyakkaya1567 4 жыл бұрын
If it packaged with other materials , it will include cost and other risk . When it comes to end user market, the cost says everything. You won't choose a more expensive daily food meal, you will be more concern on how much will I spend on this meal , and how much for the next meal. That's human nature.
@spaceeagle832
@spaceeagle832 4 жыл бұрын
Plastic is ideal for food, its very hygienic.
@Basih
@Basih 3 жыл бұрын
Because plastics can be recycled or when garbage is handled correctly, burned to produce heating and electricity. There is no point in replacing it.
@ChristieNel
@ChristieNel 4 жыл бұрын
This is great! Now we can continue to grow the population forever.
@bluejanis5317
@bluejanis5317 4 жыл бұрын
First things first!
@chasl3645
@chasl3645 4 жыл бұрын
There you go Billy Gates doesn't need to worry about population control maybe he can concentrate on his computers virus instead.😏
@oby-1607
@oby-1607 3 жыл бұрын
I think you meant, we can grow for the population not grow the population. If people continue to multiply, they will push each other off of the edge of the Earth. We have enough people right now.
@oag3957
@oag3957 2 жыл бұрын
I love this guy because he has ideas
@brainandatalydeppaalirahma4786
@brainandatalydeppaalirahma4786 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks fr the great videos, and yeah I'm into vertical farming and just started it, and if I may ask, what's your recommended of grow light? Seems you're also using strip light but, does strip light really, really can get veggies to grow? I've tried once, but the effectiveness still lacking
@vprodok
@vprodok 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure about how to answer that question...did you google it?
@Sexyboricuamejicana
@Sexyboricuamejicana 4 жыл бұрын
Research a company called fluence they have helped other in same field line wirh the lighting and so far so good for a couple fo years now
@TrueFaith94
@TrueFaith94 4 жыл бұрын
20:29 Nice, got the Gone Girl soundtrack in there...
@coolskool1.061
@coolskool1.061 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, love that Wholefoods growing their own Veg upstairs
@SanjayFGeorge
@SanjayFGeorge 2 жыл бұрын
At the 24 minute mark it went from being an English voice documentary to a Dutch voice documentary. Thankfully there are German subtitles 😀
@davidwalters9462
@davidwalters9462 4 жыл бұрын
Growing fruit is a whole different thing than microgreens. Growing what we *mostly eat*, like grains, is completely undoable yet.
@madmady8278
@madmady8278 4 жыл бұрын
this is true, which is why we need to innovate like crazy! we need to keep pushing, and pushing, and pushing this technology, and we cant stop untill we've perfected it!
@MatrixGamer1988
@MatrixGamer1988 4 жыл бұрын
There are other documentaries that predict grain will be grow able at a profit by 2030.
@hallpaintandbody7717
@hallpaintandbody7717 4 жыл бұрын
Trees can be pruned to grow low. Apple trees 5' tall grow outwards. Paul on my liked videos is doing this.
@IvonaFlakus
@IvonaFlakus 4 жыл бұрын
Grains are mostly fed to animals, so going vegan is actually way more sustainable..
@davidwalters9462
@davidwalters9462 4 жыл бұрын
@@IvonaFlakus We still have to grow massive quantities of grain if one is vegan. Veganism is a life style choice thas is rejected by about 96% of the worlds population. My point was about non-life style choices that people right now consume: wheat, corn, potatoes, yuca, etc etc. My point was can any of those foods be xfr to what is demonstrated with microgreens, all of which, I might add, is generally outside the cost constraints of most consumers.
@aquaponicscanada-noadditiv8471
@aquaponicscanada-noadditiv8471 3 жыл бұрын
This is the future of farming 👍👍
@wastelesslearning1245
@wastelesslearning1245 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea! The only kinks left to overcome is figuring out how to vertical farm while not supporting the fossil fuels and chemical refinery industries that brought us to this point; organic vertical farming. That includes the power plants that run on fossil fuels and power the growth lights. But one could probably figure out a way to use both light and sun and create own clean power to use electricity sustainably (farms in general all need to do this) That and you will still need regenerative out door agroforestry/ to create a productive version of local habitat if not restore the deterioration we caused in the first place, then to produce all the macro trees, shrubs, and more sensitive plants that are not compatible with the vertical medium. Other then that this can save our future!
@diegofung95
@diegofung95 3 жыл бұрын
Natural gas emits 50 to 60 percent less carbon dioxide (CO2) when combusted in a new, efficient natural gas power plant compared with emissions from a typical new coal plan
@suegibson8914
@suegibson8914 2 жыл бұрын
Uranium
@wastelesslearning1245
@wastelesslearning1245 2 жыл бұрын
@@suegibson8914 mhmm like the Fallout universe. Another problem is the materials dependence of petroleum like for plastic and other my products cheaply used commonly in many supply chains. Power plants though cleaner have problems of their own. Depending on mining affect supply on the ground (Not regenerative/renewable), promotes non-self-sufficiency ie further dependence on the grid through all the red tape needed to power your home (think of all the nuclear terrorist risks, and how politically people will have less and less say), burying the radioactive waste not in it of itself but how that affects other economies nobody wants to be near that. But nuclear definitely has a place in the solutions.
@dianedong1062
@dianedong1062 7 ай бұрын
Yes, I'd also like to know how much energy per tonne of food is required to grow various crops on a vertical farm.
@jigglewiggle6757
@jigglewiggle6757 4 жыл бұрын
13:56 fresh green produce actually could benefits a city for 3 reason. Controlls Carbon dixiode, make city vibrantly fresh looking and makes ordering fresh greens quicker and healthier.
@jp1563
@jp1563 2 жыл бұрын
fresh green vegetables don't do anything meaningful to control carbon dioxide. They rot quickly, releasing their carbon back into the atmosphere.
@gamerguide374
@gamerguide374 2 жыл бұрын
@@jp1563 True. It doesnt work for this reason.
@AbidAli-bv2gl
@AbidAli-bv2gl 5 жыл бұрын
professor Dickson Despommier success his life time
@jigglewiggle6757
@jigglewiggle6757 4 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking of building my own hydroponic in my house so that I don't have to go to the supermarket often and also I can trust my own self handed treated food , instead of being a guinea pig for the chemicals food industry.
@vprodok
@vprodok 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Jiggle wiggle, thanks for your comment. We have also an international documentary channel, check it out! : kzbin.info/door/9sXw4ZdPEIp6bYGvLW-_iA
@WildlifeInCloseUp
@WildlifeInCloseUp 4 жыл бұрын
Is there an English version of this film? It was annoying to reach halfway and then have to give up (the auto English subtitles are useless). There were claims made about sustainability that were not substantiated and I want to know about the energy used for lights and heating - is that discussed later in the film?
@vprodok
@vprodok 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Stephen de Vere, we have an English channel and there you can find the English version: kzbin.info/door/9sXw4ZdPEIp6bYGvLW-_iA
@WildlifeInCloseUp
@WildlifeInCloseUp 4 жыл бұрын
@@vprodok Thanks, but the documentary is showing as not available kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHPLhayEl694bKM Studies show that growing under 100% artificial light is really bad re. CO2 pollution.
@menyeng8019
@menyeng8019 3 жыл бұрын
thank you it is weel good end it is studies for my farming in indonesia
@angiemarie8826
@angiemarie8826 4 жыл бұрын
in what market do you sell your veggies i live by newark nj?
@mvblitzyo
@mvblitzyo 2 жыл бұрын
amazing beautiful information .. where have I been as I ask myself thanks vpro dok !!
@adammaina5612
@adammaina5612 3 жыл бұрын
This is very great innovation. Since all these farms are addressing leafy greens and herbs issues, what is being done about the cereals? This is still grown out in the field where they still use harmful pesticides. We are still in trouble until we address this link in the food chain.
@newlifenowife3522
@newlifenowife3522 3 жыл бұрын
now all we need is some dutch tomatoes that taste like tomatoes.......
@assog5737
@assog5737 2 жыл бұрын
It would have been nice if they would have included. What the cost to build a system like this cost. And also the cost of what one of those trays cost to grow.
@dicksonelectriccity4293
@dicksonelectriccity4293 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a closed caption in english?
@jorgeespinosa1320
@jorgeespinosa1320 4 жыл бұрын
"There is not such a thing as a new idea" I bet hundreds of us watching this video have dreamed about this, and here before our eyes made possible
@zahidhasan9040
@zahidhasan9040 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@KAKALaundryKh
@KAKALaundryKh 4 жыл бұрын
Good vids, like 💯, friend here. Like+. Be safe 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@RodebertX
@RodebertX 3 жыл бұрын
now we only need to tackle the 50% of food that gets wasted every year 👍
@ThatGardener
@ThatGardener 3 жыл бұрын
nice video very informative. thanks.
@lindafoster8182
@lindafoster8182 3 жыл бұрын
Have you come up with systems that individuals can have at their property?
@aliahmadi94T
@aliahmadi94T 3 жыл бұрын
Super 👍
@Roger-ci4tp
@Roger-ci4tp 4 жыл бұрын
i TOO LOVE THIS IDEA ! however, the more i think about it i wonder what new nutritional deficiencies will develop and henCe the diseases accompanying it ....
@gmaila.v4689
@gmaila.v4689 4 жыл бұрын
You can messure the exact nutrients and micronutrients in soil. These are added to the hydroponic water. We know exactly what nutrients most common plants need. Everything is calibrated to make optimal plants.
@edgaralonsopinzon6620
@edgaralonsopinzon6620 4 жыл бұрын
Very good vídeo.
@triumphmanful
@triumphmanful 4 жыл бұрын
Soon to come "Vegeees grown in Space" Farmers in space ! Wow, I am writing this up as I write in my head. I will print this idea out and share it with NASA. Maybe they will give me a big job. With a cute secretary and nice office ? Space Vegees , a new frontier !
@danielmasendorf5776
@danielmasendorf5776 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea! But what nobody in this video talks about is where the energy for vertical farming comes from. You probably need huge amounts of energy for lights, heating and computers. The whole thing of course only makes sense, if renewable energies are used. But renewable energies require space. If this space is more than you save, the whole concept wouldn't make sense. Did you analyse the energy demand and resulting additional space demand?
@fuuhouhouji
@fuuhouhouji 2 жыл бұрын
LED technology and better understanding what kind of light plants need (is not the whole spectrum) is making this technology more and more posible by the day. Regular farming produce a lot of CO2 in the process and transportation. Vertical farming could end up been less wastfull and with less carbon footprint the moment you factor transportation energy costs even with current technology
@ASPIRE_80s
@ASPIRE_80s 4 жыл бұрын
Is there an English transcript of those interviews in Dutch? That will be very useful, thanks.
@vprodok
@vprodok 4 жыл бұрын
On our other channel there are also english subtitles. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHPLhayEl694bKM
@rscott2247
@rscott2247 3 жыл бұрын
I saw a video on Australian indoor farming where they used artificial pollination to do the job whereas a Chinese one used bumble bees. Got a hand it to the Dutch for doing more with less.
@stoner27th
@stoner27th 3 жыл бұрын
5:20 I'm sorry but a container is equivalent of 2 acre (8000 sqm) farmland? that's impossible? a 40 foot container is about 12 x 2.3 x 2.3 m in interior size, so to make it vertical, 12 x 2.3 m is about 27.6 sqm, so you'll need 290 layers of vertical plant there. it's less than 8 mm row of plants. Where was that number coming out from?
@honeybabou6119
@honeybabou6119 4 жыл бұрын
So the whole foods market grows the vegetables on the top, ok. But do they grow the plastic packaging in the basement?
@wokeaf1337
@wokeaf1337 4 жыл бұрын
why would they need that if they distribute what they grow directly to the city they growing in ?
@howard977
@howard977 4 жыл бұрын
Lol .' The rise of vertical farming ' . Great title
@nivlagtj1
@nivlagtj1 4 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Any version of this video that translates the Dutch into English from 21:30 to 31:00?
@vprodok
@vprodok 4 жыл бұрын
We have the video in English on our international channel! Check this channel: kzbin.info/door/9sXw4ZdPEIp6bYGvLW-_iA
@nivlagtj1
@nivlagtj1 4 жыл бұрын
@@vprodok Can you just give me the link to the specific video?
@AlexAtGuilford
@AlexAtGuilford 3 жыл бұрын
Let me just call my Dutch translator for the last half of this. 😄
@bubskees0607
@bubskees0607 3 жыл бұрын
How and who makes the nutrient solutions needed for all this? What's in them? Is this just a rehashing of the NPK problem? I know the imported peppers around my area have no flavor...
@margdea
@margdea 4 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@TheBrick2
@TheBrick2 3 жыл бұрын
Massive section in the middle in Flemish (at a guess). In general I can see this meaning that small scale producers will be out of business. Big companies will take up the spaces and produce the good far cheaper than someone who may only be able to utilise 2 or three shipping containers.
@vimenyavsezaebali
@vimenyavsezaebali 4 жыл бұрын
urban farming in the marcy projects...how far we've come
@avgjoela13
@avgjoela13 2 жыл бұрын
Great doc, the Closed caption not so much
@rilanrilan971
@rilanrilan971 3 жыл бұрын
That would be great if you could add caption in English for parts that are not spoken in English.
@dianedong1062
@dianedong1062 7 ай бұрын
I'd like to know how much energy per tonne of food is required to grow various crops in a vertical farm.
@natashaowens2177
@natashaowens2177 3 жыл бұрын
Wish the translation would not have stopped.
@naelprelaz7181
@naelprelaz7181 4 жыл бұрын
What's with the suspense and depro background music when this is an optimistic topic?
@Stateofmind_
@Stateofmind_ 3 жыл бұрын
Dont talk about it do it, plants will die in process of learning. Reward is awesome.
@MrPongakx
@MrPongakx 3 жыл бұрын
its very nice to watch. but no english subtitle. sad
@mind9528
@mind9528 3 жыл бұрын
Aha! It's okay, I think, everything! (soil and high technology of the organic food farming) there are an important 😊
@diegofung95
@diegofung95 3 жыл бұрын
what about the electricity consumption to grow the plants indoor? you can't really say you are cutting emissions down to zero even though you took the transportation out of the equation
@raedjaber2833
@raedjaber2833 4 жыл бұрын
Can I plant other kind s of vegetable s such as tomato in like this vertical farm
@thepain9729
@thepain9729 4 жыл бұрын
u can, i see it in other video, but i dont know hot they polinate the flower
@R4GEFORME
@R4GEFORME 3 жыл бұрын
@@thepain9729 shaking the plant helps the polination. That's what I do in my own home-made inside garden
@ingemar_von_zweigbergk
@ingemar_von_zweigbergk 4 жыл бұрын
when are they going to make a documentary about vertical farming wheat, rice and potatoes. food crops.
@asdfasdf-mn8iu
@asdfasdf-mn8iu 4 жыл бұрын
That's a lot harder to do than leafy greens or perhaps tomatoes.
@2011blueman
@2011blueman 4 жыл бұрын
Produce grown in those lighted vertical farms is 10 to 100 times more expensive to grow.
@MrIanHulstein
@MrIanHulstein 2 жыл бұрын
Traditional farming achieves its cheaper price by externalizing many of the true costs: agricultural runoff, chemical pollution, water waste, deforestation, biodiversity loss, etc etc. Not to mention all the subsidies industrial farmers receive to keep grocery bills low. That said, this kind of agtech is still brand new. Costs will rapidly decrease with technological improvements and the as the population continues to grow many of those “externalities” will have to be paid for by the consumer.
@2011blueman
@2011blueman 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrIanHulstein You think concentrated agriculture like this somehow magically doesn't have chemical pollution and runoff? You're living in a fantasy land. As for deforestation and biodiversity loss, that doesn't happen in the EU and US, farmland is well established and has been farmed for centuries.
@willysanchez5642
@willysanchez5642 2 жыл бұрын
Wow!
@aybflampf246
@aybflampf246 4 жыл бұрын
This shit totally changed my mind
@haterzgonnahate8195
@haterzgonnahate8195 3 жыл бұрын
After the USD is worth nothing you guys will need those buildings and lokal farmers. Otherwise you would suffer hunger. Good work 👍
@estebancorral5151
@estebancorral5151 2 жыл бұрын
Dickson Despommier was not the first in thinking vertically. There was once a king of Babylon who married a princess from Media. The new bride became homesick for her land land of mountains so the ordered king specially built gardens reminiscent of her homeland. Several centuries later, the Greek historian Herodotus named the hanging gardens of Babylon as one of the Seven Wonders of the World.
@KrisLehmkuhl
@KrisLehmkuhl 2 жыл бұрын
what is the cost per person in energy?
@avishalom2000lm
@avishalom2000lm 3 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me what Mr. Van der Schans is saying around after 22:03? I heard him say something about Russia and Trump.
@psionikable
@psionikable 2 жыл бұрын
Why are they not called Cubed Roots?
@tanyahanna6523
@tanyahanna6523 4 жыл бұрын
The rise of vertical farming.. subscription..the brothers Grimm..🧙...
@zyxwvutsrqponmlkh
@zyxwvutsrqponmlkh 3 жыл бұрын
Closed captions don't work when trying to translate the troll speak.
@amadoresaquarismotmj
@amadoresaquarismotmj 3 жыл бұрын
top de mass
@beautylicius
@beautylicius 2 жыл бұрын
Wow 😮
@creedstat
@creedstat 4 жыл бұрын
ya but youre using hydro which is expensive where as the sun is free....better approach would be a rooftop using free sunshine....I bet their food is really expensive
@tonyjones5443
@tonyjones5443 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely people pinching all your good ideas did they show you theirs?
@extendo7137
@extendo7137 4 жыл бұрын
By 2040 population will grow to 9 billion Corona virus : let me introduce myself..
@vprodok
@vprodok 4 жыл бұрын
Hi swaroop naik, thanks for your comment. We also have an international channel if you like to check it out: kzbin.info/door/9sXw4ZdPEIp6bYGvLW-_iA
@winnaleswe577
@winnaleswe577 2 жыл бұрын
My husband and I, is looking for someone to finance our farm in Cebu City, Philippines.We have space but we don't have the capital. We''re thing to continue farming but with the new technology. Can you help us?
@DeadJack57
@DeadJack57 2 жыл бұрын
Greenhouse skyscraper? With supplemental lighting and heating of course.
@DeadJack57
@DeadJack57 2 жыл бұрын
Or maybe just build up on existing buildings. Bottom storefront. Middle apartments. Top farming.
@OMNIDROID2995
@OMNIDROID2995 4 жыл бұрын
We need LEDs that exceed 67% Efficacy by far. For such Ammount of planned Vertical Farms you need many Photons xD.
@thomasherzig174
@thomasherzig174 3 жыл бұрын
even then we would still need photovoltaic panels with 1500% efficiency to produce all the required sustainable electricity on the same area as the vertical farmhouse takes
@miltononyango
@miltononyango 2 жыл бұрын
amazing
@lemonidasm2530
@lemonidasm2530 4 жыл бұрын
Hydroponic grown tomatoes are not the same with a field grown tomato , lacks the minerals . Also i did not see any vertical farming in Dutch factory , just mass food & flower production.
@jernmanden1
@jernmanden1 3 жыл бұрын
freaking good idear
@VectorGameStudio
@VectorGameStudio 2 жыл бұрын
awesome
@ThatGardener
@ThatGardener 3 жыл бұрын
Excellwnt
@Ignatzism
@Ignatzism 3 жыл бұрын
What will we do about nutritions like nitrogen and phosphorus? Getting nitrogen mechanically costs a lot of energy, and if we keep on flushing phosphorus down the toilet to the oceans we won't be able doing that kind of farming in 50-60 years..
@jusmaidasidin7559
@jusmaidasidin7559 2 жыл бұрын
great
@lolitabonita08
@lolitabonita08 2 жыл бұрын
concept excellent but what if....it is not electricity anymore...that the new order send a frequency that fries all electronics...no water...so if you are relying in technology u are done....
@charleslemagne202
@charleslemagne202 4 жыл бұрын
19:13 the acricultural footprint of 7.3 billion people has the size of South America in land mass
@xDanoss318x
@xDanoss318x 4 жыл бұрын
Eating less meat, exspecially beef, would reduce that footprint immensely. Reducing the meat consumption won't be easy. And I don't wanne be advocating veganism (I eat meat myself). For me, I try to only eat chicken when I eat meat.
@agustingarcia6705
@agustingarcia6705 4 жыл бұрын
Gut
@sanelesiya926
@sanelesiya926 4 жыл бұрын
I thought of this years ago wow..i thought how about if we farm vertical and put all people into a small space with tall building..i am crc by 2040 everyone should have a panthouse instead of trational houses
@tot_samiy_kotel
@tot_samiy_kotel 4 жыл бұрын
I think all people Will have small spaces ,more smaller than today🤣 Capitalism 🤦
@MrDkx123
@MrDkx123 2 жыл бұрын
Sustainable energy is the issue with this.
@hampeblixt7677
@hampeblixt7677 3 жыл бұрын
The music is pissing me off. We're seeing great innovation and things that should give us hope for the future of food production but the music make it feel like a dystoptic horror movie.
@evegrowing7749
@evegrowing7749 3 жыл бұрын
The future of growing in urban settings will be “soil based”! Growing with soil can do EVERYTHING soilless growing can do and far more. Not only is growing with soil far better for the Planet there’s less chance for failure on many levels.
@HacBabannMutfag
@HacBabannMutfag 4 жыл бұрын
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