The rise of woke homophobia, with James Dreyfus | The Brendan O'Neill Show

Actor James Dreyfus joins Brendan O’Neill to discuss the cruelty of cancel culture, how radicals became censors and how gender ideology undermines gay rights.
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[@georgewood5649]

Pkpkk

[@janesmith8050]

A hearty thank you from this lesbian who has been raising the alarm about the misogyny and homophobia inherent in the trans rights movement for almost 15 years . I am an old school radical who is shocked and alarmed that most people do not see trans ideology and cancel culture as the social fascism that it is.

[@mikeheaton8424]

Pretty soon we’ll all be in straight jackets!

[@jupiterisaak1004]

They do see it for what is is but they are scared of admitting it because the trans lobby/mob have so much power

[@janesmith8050]

@@jupiterisaak1004 Which begs the question, how did such a teeny tiny minority get so much power?

[@TIm_Bugge]

@@janesmith8050 - Social media.

[@minhearg8331]

"...most people do not see trans ideology and cancel culture as the social fascism that it is." I'd say that the overwhelming majority of people do see that, but when MSM and showbiz luvvies and the universities and an increasing number of companies hold sway over the public fora, the average Joe/Jo Blow only has a general election to express his (or her) views.

[@deelybopper8401]

I absolutely adore James Dreyfus, he must be protected at all costs!! He is absolutely correct, Stonewall have a hell of a lot to answer for.

[@JWWAUGH1]

Not sure what ‘waifu’ means but I ticked a thumbs up, if it is a derogatory term I wish to take my tick back

[@psychoticmortacarn]

@@JWWAUGH1 You COULD just... you know... look it up lmao

[@carlisroy6666]

@@psychoticmortacarn And yet you could have just explained. Why be deliberately obtuse?

[@psychoticmortacarn]

@@carlisroy6666 Because unironically announcing "I don't know what you're saying, but I'm going to like it anyway" makes you and everyone you associate with look bad. You should inform yourself before you form an opinion, not cross your fingers and hope what you're agreeing with means what you think it means. It's not like it's a complex concept either. It's a silly meme word that they could have looked up in like five seconds. They probably could have answered their own question less time than it took them to type out their comment.

[@Clareffic]

Thank you for standing for women.

[@tubester4567]

When they were beating up on men you didnt care, now women are suddenly anti-woke.

[@SG-bc5rt]

Dreyfus must be cherished and protected at all cost.

[@silverfish8059]

As a heterosexual woman, I salute and support the work of the LBG Alliance.

[@tojogornottojog1100]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@hannannah1uk]

Well said. Fighting homosexual erasure.

[@tojogornottojog1100]

@@hannannah1uk 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@blackmore4]

@@tojogornottojog1100 Don't jog... don't do anything... until you're able to lose your Joker hysteria and find your brain.

[@tojogornottojog1100]

@@blackmore4 and who are you to censor others? One of the state protected animals?

[@lemonmousse9672]

We need to cherish James Dreyfus…it takes courage and integrity to speak out like this. Thank you, James x

[@calstonjew]

It shouldn't.

[@romulus3345]

"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - Orwell

[@hannannah1uk]

Drop the T from LGB.

[@patcom1013]

Let's Go, indeed !!!

[@threestepssideways1202]

We almost had it right in the 90's. We wern't quite there, but we were pretty close. For the most part everyone gave everyone else space to be themselves, we lived and let live, and when we didn't get it right, we laughed about it together and tried again. The solidarity of all people, whatever creed, colour, religion or politics was solid because the differences were background noise. We didn't care too much, because we knew we could work at it, and if someone did they were an outlier. It breaks my heart that 20/25 years later we are in the world that we are in by comparison to where we were. I agree with James that this change came with social media and the ease with which it allowed polarisation and zealotry. It was supposed to make the world more open, more understanding by the virtue that you could touch base with anyone, anywhere and it's achieved the polar opposite. So saddening.

[@johnatkinson7479]

Excellent comment, I was in my 20s in the 90s and politics by in large simply didn’t matter to most..we were to busy having a good time

[@chriscoffee9070]

Exactly, social media, almost everything that is messed up in society now was either caused by, or made immeasurably worse by these platforms, and they're making a fortune in the process. We must abandon these platforms. I'm an IT guy and us lot were generally online before most folk found out about it, and for a good 10 years before these behemoths hijacked online conversation we had small, user-run, user-moderated, subject-specific forums in the form of usenet and bulletin boards like CIX. There were no likes, no followers, no adverts, and absolutely no governmental or big-brother control, and people generally got on. Sure, there were flame wars here and there, but they didn't destroy society. To slightly correct the above, the internet was the thing that was supposed to make the world more open, social media's aim was to corral people into their proprietary system to make money from them, they were the ones that really ruined the internet, it was doing just fine before they came along.

[@markkavanagh7377]

It was because of the E's!! :D

[@Clareffic]

@@markkavanagh7377 reach for the blazers, safe as f***

[@Clareffic]

Exactly. It's awful to see the rainbow split and unsupported and straight women

[@fenellamaddison6501]

This was wonderful. Thank you. Never forget James was asked if he regretted his stand and he said he had to speak out because it was the right thing to do. He’s a treasure that’s for sure.

[@GeoffreyJohns]

3 cheers for James Dreyfus!

[@sifridbassoon]

"America burps and we smell it!" LOL As an American, I love that. I'm 65 and have been out since 81 (I came out a little late), and I'm lucky that I have no gay friends who believe any of that crap. I just tell those people "I've been out longer than you've been alive, so don't tell me how to live my life."

[@richalderson6069]

It's great to hear a prominent gay man speaking up about this stuff, which is actually a rare thing. I hope he leads the way for more to do the same.

[@loubieloujones5698]

Douglas Murray is another.

[@DarkAngel2512]

@@loubieloujones5698 and Andrew Doyle

[@monsieurlewop]

James is a treasure. His Cassius in Julius Caesar at the Birmingham Repertory Theatre was the best stage performance I've seen.

[@RedRosach]

Fiery James Dreyfus is just what I needed tonight. The one great thing coming out of this trance madness is finding out who the people with heart, brain, and courage are.

[@margaretgreenwood4243]

Thank you so very much James. Admire your bravery kindness and empathy 💋

[@alandean2]

Excellent interview and one that is so relevant. I was a member of the CHE in the 1970s. I've experienced homophobic abuse all my life, been called handbag, shirt lifter and so on. I've experienced being cancelled but what has changed? One thing I've learnt is that I won't be 'owned' by any group. I don't get into conversation or debate I just contradict and stand my ground

[@JaneA544]

Good for you 👏👏👏👏👏

[@rob28803]

Crucify me for heresy, but I think Transgenderism is a completely different thing to sexual preference, so why don’t they split off and form their own organisation? They’ve been shielded under the LGB umbrella for long enough, and it’s time for them to go

[@romulus3345]

The Emperor has no clothes.

[@carmelmulroy6459]

Not too fond of the forced pairing either

[@dize3672]

Love you, James. Everything you say is full of truth, passion, integrity and humour! You're spot on about everything. We need truth speakers like you back in the comedy world ( does it even exist any more?) to mock and deflate this hypocrisy.

[@theutd]

Wow amazing how strange common sense sounds in these utterly insane days. Great interview

[@declancarroll1799]

An outstanding, intelligent and commonsense conversation 👌. Thank you.

[@debbielondon1809]

Nobody talks about LOVE any more. This ideology separates sex from love. It's all about body parts and self.

[@mjh5437]

nor Romance.

[@natashalion8028]

I LOVE James Dreyfus x

[@DAN_ZEMAN]

Please bring back the days when homosexuals were like this guy… a little quirky, sometimes a little eccentric, but generally sane and remarkably less woke.

[@Attmay]

The thing I came out of the closet for.

[@pbohearn]

@@Attmay that’s me! It’s pretty obvious I’m not a straight man, but I don’t like the aggressive nonconformity and insistence I agree and validate their positions ( which I don’t). I don’t have to agree with your politics and I refuse to comply with your demands that don’t make any sense to me. Many who define themselves as T, Q, A and whatever else, seem to have other identity, personality and mental health issues who are intoxicated with the power of influence they have been grAnted.

[@thepontiacbandit7874]

‘It’s not a question. It’s a test.’ That’s so pithy! I’m going to remember that.

[@Monicablackbelt24]

Thankfully I don’t hang around with anyone entitled or selfish woke enough to ask my pronouns! I love James .. very funny actor .. and real respect for him standing up to these entitled toddlers ..

[@rachelbassett4942]

Every word James is saying is exactly as it is...... Thank you so much for giving him a voice x

[@rosyrussell5209]

There have been social successes in Britain...vote for women and acceptance of gays. When I last visited Britain, before covid, in 2019, I found youngsters in groups of every colour , all speaking in the same accent. I felt that nobody saw colour; they saw Brits. I saw some odd sights too such as an elderly, bearded man on a mobility scooter in a skirt and stockings , with a pink handbag under his armpit. This was new to me, but it was accepted by all around, while I stood with my mouth open. There were also a number of young people who could have been either male or female. I felt sorry for them, but was told that they were fine. Africa, where I live, still criminalizes gayness, although my country is not, fortunately, vehement about it. Women's rights and gay rights were necessary. This trans rights is not so necessary. The Brits are known to be eccentric so they don't care what anyone looks like, thus the trans people could quietly do what they like. It does not, and should not, be an ideology with a very dangerous agenda. Stonewall should be defunded and told to fold its tent and go home.

[@AvidReader101]

Agree Stonewall is a hate group and they should lose their charitable status.

[@AG-tj8ew]

Great discussion. Thank you both.

[@MissFerguson]

This is why we need a Gimme Gimme Gimme Special that mercilessly lampoons gender, race, and identity delusion as only Lindy and Tom can do.

[@winstonsmith7652]

James has just risen in my estimation. If 2+2=5 none of us would be here, because computers and smartphones wouldn't work.

[@romulus3345]

Math is "WAYCIST"

[@smileytownSF]

I love this guy. Feels like a breath of fresh air to hear this perspective.

[@pizzabinge]

It's a cult mindset rooted in a fundamentalist faith-based ideology. The "scientology" of the social media age. We must expose it in the same way we fight any other religious cult - with logic, integrity and compassion...and not being afraid to offend.

[@pseudonamed]

Yes. It really shows cult like behaviour.. chanting meaningless slogans like “t women are women”, excommunicate anyone who questions anything and stone the non believers

[@ilfautdanser9121]

the massive difference though is that scientology only harms those that participate in scientology. this cult is taking over the world with the potential to abuse all of us

[@patrickyoung2106]

Nice one James!

[@Problembeing]

James, as ever, completely manages to voice precisely everything that needs to be said, it’s like hearing my own words coming out of his mouth and he is a pure joy and a national treasure.

[@pdeb70]

Bravo James, so refreshing. 👏 We are living in a fantasy world now - its 'The Kings New Clothes'. We need everyone to stand up en mass and say 'ENOUGH of this nonsense'

[@GailPlatt]

Keep on keeping on, James. There are more of us than there are of them. Hopefully this is a phase that will pass and we'll look back in a few years and laugh about it?!

[@mjh5437]

Exactly,we seem to be under Minority Rule,it`s ridiculous.

[@Jimbobalina1]

Great interview

[@danielaragusa]

Women and girls are not collateral damage. Correct. Thank you.

[@silverfish8059]

So much brilliance and intelligent points made... stay radical, think and speak freely!

[@jebjeb1498]

Thanks,James.You speak for all people of sense.Thank you

[@gacku7847]

These guys have to add so many qualifiers to everything they say. "I'm not this, I'm not that." It's sad. There shouldn't be a need for it, it's an obvious given.

[@silverfish8059]

Yay! Always loved his work..... love and respect from Canada

[@hlwebb9877]

Excellent interview, thank you both.

[@tomj7382]

I've been wondering if we'd be better off without internet

[@evolassunglasses4673]

The system started to reframe our thinking with TV (with hypa Liberalism, Individualism and Consumerism) its only going to get worse.

[@paularrowsmith9376]

I don't remember wishing for the internet to be invented ,the disadvantages far outweigh the advantages

[@boudicca9807]

It's not the internet that's the problem, it's social media.

[@tomj7382]

@@boudicca9807 not just for woke stuff. If there was no internet lockdowns wouldn't be possible. We'd all just live our lives and just say there's a bug going around just like the last 2 "pandemics"

[@melissamoore2678]

Big Tech betrayed us…they’ve enabled crimes against humanity for big bucks.

[@joannamarshall3863]

Fantastic interview! Thank you so much, James, we need men like you.

[@c.6452]

Don't underestimate the amount of hom*phobia and misogyny that despite all the progress was just swept under the carpet and has been festering there. This is an insiduous backlash against children's, women's and gay ppl's rights parading as progress.

[@joshuabell5580]

I miss the 90's!

[@gennaclarks7978]

Wonderful talk. Thank you so much.

[@lynnesheridan3096]

It is the Crucible without doubt. Thankyou James.

[@michaeljameskeating1348]

if you are a genuine mysognist, jumping on the woke bandwagon is a perfect cover for spewing hate, yet looking virtuous!

[@LordSauerkraut]

I never cared about the gays in the past, because I viewed them like any other person, but in the last few years my view changed, because of the trans movement and when the San Fransico Gay Choir sung about coming for the children (and it turned out they have a lot of sexoffender in it who prefer children). In the past I would have supported LGBT, but after seeing what they turned into and when you see articles like "Kink and children belong to Pride" (don't remember if it was the New York Times or another paper) I can't support them anymore.

[@WildZephyr]

Wonderful talk, I loved it.

[@jacquilayton2557]

I’ve just added James to my list of heroes

[@lemsip207]

At one time there were transvestites men and they called themselves that. They didn't want to be women or invade their spaces. They had their own spaces where they could socialise with each other. They were different from transsexuals. They were happy to use male toilets. And there were butch Lesbians who either dates femmes or other butch Lesbians. They had no intention of transitioning

[@lemsip207]

And there are cis and heterosexual people calling themselves 'queer' or 'gender non binary' just to fit into the alphabet. Pansexual is also meaningless. If you are a heterosexual then you are only attracted to cis people of the opposite sex not trans people. If you are gay or Lesbian then you are only attracted to cis people of the same sex not trans people. I love how A Woman's Place call gender a social construct as they are gender critical and prefer to instead to refer to sex. Sonia Poulton says that gender or sex is not assigned at birth as it is observed instead.

[@neorich59]

James Dreyfuss. The voice of reason in a World (well this bit of it) is slowly going mad. When I came out in '78, I remember asking my best friend whether he "minded." I wouldn't do that now. His answer: "People either like men, or women, or both!" It all seemed so simple back then. Watching people being paraded in front of T.V. Cameras to offer apologies for things they (foolishly) said 20 years ago (which would apply to a substantial number of my generation, when casual homophobia, sexism and racism, were rife) is downright disturbing. People often misuse or overuse comparisons to Orwell, but to me, that does smack of both 1984 and Animal Farm!

[@hangingaround2954]

Thank you James for standing up for real women in this fight. You are an absolute legend.xx

[@chrisx8902]

Did the world become a nicer place when we went woke and progressive? No, it got uglier, angrier and crazier. And it is going to get worse before it gets better.

[@mortuaryartist]

I forget to watch james on twitter. Tell him I love him x

[@apemant]

Remember, "the issue is never the issue".

[@socratesrocks1513]

What a fantastic interview. Thank you!

[@richardbrown8966]

Ironic that James uses a Stephen King book quote, Cujo, when Stephen King turned against J K Rowling on Twitter.

[@Attmay]

Guess I can no longer support the works of Stephen King or anything based on it. I’ve long suspected he was a piece of shit. This confirms it.

[@vickicaravella4665]

Do get involved James. God knows, we need you. Thank you Brendan & James.

[@TheHaydnwood]

I remember an interview with Boy George in Smash Hits Magazine in 1984, on a flexi disc, where he says one of his favourite lyrics is from the David Bowie song 'Teenage Wildlife'; "same old thing, in brand new drag, come sweeping into view' I think the 'non binary' title is just the latest way for someone to say I'm a bit of a girly boy, or boyish girl. So what? seen it all before I say! Like James, I spent the 80s and 90s hanging out with all sorts of people, non of this was ever an issue then. Douglas Murray rightly brought up the phase, 'St.George in retirement '. Unfortunately there are a lot of vocal narcissists who think they are the vanguard of trans rights. They missed the boat!

[@RinpochesRose]

Excellent interview, thanks 👍🏻

[@terfrocks2583]

Hope you are feeling the love James!!!!! X x x x x x x

[@ZootBurger]

Anyone asks me what my 'pronouns' are, and I'll tell 'em: "'Your Grace' and 'Sir' ; now go away, please.."

[@derekchauvin8426]

I would insist they call me "the cunt"

[@chriscoffee9070]

I'm genuinely still waiting for the first time anyone asks me such a ridiculous question, I have vowed to myself that I will say my only pronoun is 'Attack Helicopter'. Not my idea, I read it somewhere, but it's the best answer.

[@Catu11u5]

I would say, “Any. Whatever makes you most comfortable. I don’t need your validation. I know what I am.”

[@d.d.9498]

Excellent. The problem with Wokeists is that they will not tolerate a different opinion. They do this under the guise of tolerating ALL opinions.

[@bayblues5623]

legend!

[@maggieceenet]

Thank whichever diety you believe or not for welcome common sense and a most welcome voice. Thank you x

[@ItsMelDaley]

One of my favourite men.....

[@markstephen1308]

Im sure there are young boys who are double jabbed, on puberty blockers and anti-depressants. The world is screwed.

[@chris-mg5ui]

The operations to complete the change must be very expensive. How on earth can people afford them

[@julieclonan2427]

@@chris-mg5ui The NHS , big harma are making a killing.

[@catwoman8861]

Why are you dragging vaccination into this?

[@markstephen1308]

@@catwoman8861 Because they are all connected and part of the mass media pschological formation. I guarantee all supporters of child mutilation also back the vaccines too.

[@lemsip207]

Only today on Facebook in a group somebody has tried to turn fatphobia into a racism issue even when I pointed out that body fat percentages are now used instead of body mass index to take into account people of a larger build bone wise or who have a lot of muscle. Calling it black phobia after I pointed out that Asians tend to be of a smaller build than white people and usually weigh less at the same heights.

[@dartharpy9404]

fantastic discussion 👏

[@crunch8484]

11:50 I don't know if this was intentional but it cracked me up. "column inches" 🤣

[@margaretpepper3550]

In my view anyone using a pronoun to describe themselves should include WANKER in the title...

[@selenaclarke]

29:00 in: This is so important. Thank God you said it. You are the real Hero of our Generation, thankyou, we salute you

[@rgs6236]

James is brilliant 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@silverfish8059]

Love James D. Intelligent and brave man.

[@kcl4364]

I always find it odd that the brainwashing, médicalisation and eventual bodily mutilation of teenagers isn't the forefront of the concern with this issue.

[@galaxytrio]

Excellent conversation. Let's stop this insanity and get back to hating men.

[@HagiaSophia1952]

Wow! This old homosexual man was delighted to hear James describe OWEN JONES as 'The Establishment'! Too right he is! And IAN HISLOP; and a whole pack of those posing as 'anti-Establishment', whilst they coin it in! The acid test used to be whether the strange word (we used to use it for a 'fart'!) 'trump' could get a laugh when used: HISLOP was one of those who regularly used it; as did Owen Jones. Spot the similarity?

[@cheryltorrance3442]

Brilliant discussion

[@papaann4]

Fantastic Debate.

[@matthewrowe9903]

Amazing that the character I hated so many years ago turns out it was just a brilliant actor fantastic talk best wishes to James in this fight

[@sugarmagnolia7735]

Dreyfus describes to the T what a dark triad is . There are a large population in the US that have been victims of a dark triad . When your reality is totally messed with , attacked by flying monkeys , and lied about and to , it’s overwhelming.

[@richard1342]

As James say - just keep fighting

[@edwardhoulton8725]

Brilliant stuff

[@xaspirate8060]

Only 25% thru this conv. but realize how important this is -- so happy that this is accessible = must listening. Common Sense spoken here! THe Cujo comparison spot on.

[@omeemo7003]

We have to 👉 PROTECT AND SAVE THE CHILDREN FROM THIS PSYCHOTIC DISORDER💯

[@MaybeTheBest]

The kids stamps their feet and it's their fault, when the parent does everything to appease their demands?

[@musological]

One of the reasons perhaps it seems there is less men standing up on this issue is around framing and feminism. A lot of more anti-woke men perhaps see it as a logical progression and consequence of modern 'woke' leftist feminism, whilst from that other perspective it is seen just as 'misogyny' and being the fault of men. When those two perspectives try to come together it's understandable there's a clash that can result in a 'fine, I'll leave you to it then, reap what you sow' kind of attitude.

[@reliableandrew]

Bingo.

[@undefinedfreedom8580]

True, after years of wing bashed by feminists, I lose interest.

[@selfwhiteous3653]

I am just doing my part to keep toxic masculinity and mansplaining down

[@silverfish8059]

Yes, good comment. Ihave heard/read men revelling in women ‘ getting what they deserve’ as some end point of feminist ideology.....

[@pseudonamed]

It’s unfortunate that many men are prepared to watch all women and girls get thrown under a bus because a minority of women who call themselves feminists have said bad things. Should women abandon supporting ALL men because a minority of men have said bad sexist things?

[@denniskavanagh1649]

James Dreyfus is an absolute legend

[@stevenrichardson1843]

Conversation can be magic. The Hodge Twins talking to Zuby is an example. If you haven't seen it i beg you to watch it, I promise you will thank me. This is another example. Love this man's 'fuck you' attitude.

[@DarkAngel2512]

Great actor. Love this guy.

[@gatorgal6008]

Tried to post a comment and it got deleted, hope this one doesnt. This is a great video, and I appreciate James speaking up for the LGB

[@MrLittletube]

The man was amazing in ‘The Thin Blue Line’. I fucking loved him in that.

[@mytinplaterailway]

Good man.

[@moirared04]

First time here Brilliant ❤ Edit: just went to subscribe and I already was 🙄😂

[@xmaseveeve5259]

Oh well done!