The trans assault on reality, with Bev Jackson | The Brendan O’Neill Show

[@richalderson6069]

I was so pleased when I found out about the LGB Alliance, it was exactly what I hoped would happen and it did. Thank god I'm not the only one.

[@ikkespillendekarakter3924]

When did craziness get taken seriously. We don't agree with anorexics that they are fat....

[@chriscoffee9070]

I'm with this lady on many things but she doesn't half use a lot of '-ist's and '-phobe's. We really must get past all these '-ists', '-obias' and talk of being 'offended', and concentrate on what is factually correct or not, and base our laws, rights and expectations on that. Any laws or rights that are based on what somebody can pretend to be, decide to change on a whim, or say they believe about other people are just plain unworkable, as we have seen amply demonstrated with depressing consistency in recent years. Who gives a fig what somebody thinks is offensive, you can't base a free society on trying not to upset anybody, it's a ridiculous thing to even attempt to do.

[@deal2live]

The left love ‘-ist’!

[@euanmacleod3738]

Well said.

[@philiplong7390]

I have joined as a gay man I totally agree with Bev on all issues.

[@geejaybee]

Good, spread the message, more LGB support is needed for long term viability. The founders and quite a few senior members are getting on a bit and the youngest generation are being indoctrinated with the attitudes Bev is describing. Many of the youngest gay and lesbian teens are literally in the procesd of being eliminated and "transformed" into something else

[@winstonsmith7652]

I've joined as a straight man, and I agree with her too.

[@andrewbogg5004]

That we don't need to ban conversion therapy? Hope you are never forced through it.

[@sharifsalem]

@@andrewbogg5004 you’re confused. Trans medicalisation is conversion therapy.

[@andrewbogg5004]

@@sharifsalem Not confused at all, it isn't.

[@gosiachaaban2484]

It's true that the assault is now more on women, in getting into their spaces and in erasing the word itself.

[@flowerjpotter1629]

It appears to be happening. I can't believe my eyes !

[@ZackZick96]

This woman is so hugely brave. All my admiration for her.

[@lornaborger5624]

I'm especially unhappy when sexuality and gender identity subjects are introduced to young kids, can we allow them their innocence?

[@schmollischolle2641]

does information on identity, not sexuality, in any way impact childrens innocence?

[@nemosays6337]

I say that sex is a biological reality and gender is an anti social construct!

[@beecat9951]

@@schmollischolle2641 what identity information are you talking? Sounds a bit fascistic to me. Papers please!

[@richardcooke7909]

@@schmollischolle2641 yes

[@DAN_ZEMAN]

@@schmollischolle2641 you’ll notice that your warped ideas are not welcomed by anyone else in society other than equally broken, delusional, and indoctrinated people that agree with you - which is a minuscule minority. Stay out of other people’s business and their children’s lives and minds - you’re dangerous. On your profile we can see your other comments on this subject. You have been indoctrinated with nonsense and you are now trying to push it on other people who want absolutely nothing to do with it. Back down, go read a book about the destructive capacity of the Marxist, identity politics derived filth you are proliferating. People like you will reverse all progress made by gay rights activist from the past who just wanted to be accepted on a level playing field as is their right. You are building divisions and causing hostility towards the people who have to deal with these issues in their life. Wake up.

[@margaretgreenwood4243]

It’s misogyny pure and simple. Also, there are men who can’t get sex for whatever reason and therefore will try by any devious method to get near to women in the hope of getting sex

[@stonemarten1400]

That’s actually a sexual strategy found in males elsewhere in nature, take cuttlefish, for example. The strong innate urge to mate can be very inventive.

[@Sid-Cannon]

In years to come this giving young people drugs and/or surgery because they are unsure about their sexuality will be looked at as a massive mistake.

[@loubieloujones5698]

You're 100% right.

[@DAN_ZEMAN]

I sincerely hope you’re right, both of you.

[@bludeuce3855]

correct cause transgenders who took that stuff or transitioned later regretted their decision and committed suicide.

[@andrewbogg5004]

Except that doesn't happen

[@bludeuce3855]

@@andrewbogg5004 it does the puperty blockers and trasitioning are the reasons why transgenders commit suicide not from discrimination, bullying or rejection

[@lornaborger5624]

I have a firm belief in treating all people with dignity. But I'm unhappy with how twisted the issue of sexuality has become.

[@nemosays6337]

That's the thing the trans activists claim it's not about sexuality or sexual orientation yet they scream and shout and threaten when people who are gay, lesbian, bi and straight say they are attracted to the same or opposite sex, the trans activists also scream at the trans people who say hey I do want to be considered the opposite sex though I realise I can only present themselves that way because in biological reality you can have surgery and what not but you can't change your chromosomes or to be blunt the inner plumbing! js

[@schmollischolle2641]

@@nemosays6337 never once in my entire life had I had even one of the trans persons I know scream about me being bi. ever.

[@nemosays6337]

@@schmollischolle2641 - I guess you're lucky then or don't get out much!

[@schmollischolle2641]

@@nemosays6337 I do. Has anything you mentioned ever happened to you?

[@nemosays6337]

@@schmollischolle2641 - Personally no but I have borne witness to many such occurrences !

[@damonvonschweikert131]

Thanks for this enlightening discussion, greatly appreciated!

[@chocksaway100]

An excellent intervview with a women speaking perfect sense ....keep up the good work.

[@OrwellsHousecat]

I like how she speaks very clearly and precisely

[@keicbell]

It's wonderful to hear.

[@moriahgamesdev]

Interesting how it's only their lived experience that seems to matter. My lived experience contradicts half the things they say but for some reason that doesn't seem to count.

[@johncrow5552]

"lived experience" means, I don't care what statistics/data etc say.

[@lluisboschpascual4869]

Brave woman, speaking her mind. We need more of that !!!

[@cycledance]

Perfectly reasonable, the exact opposite of the T movement.

[@johnfulstow3454]

What an excellent, open and adult discussion. I fully support the objectives of the LGB Alliance.

[@louiseparker1915]

Wasn't Stonewall originally formed to protect gay rights.

[@gaiopescatore]

Yes, but it has betrayed its original purpose.

[@Clem62]

Have ordered my LGB Alliance T-shirt. Can't wait.

[@lukebrown997]

The question is, what is better? 1967 where gays are effectively illegal or 2021 where kids can change their gender without their parents consent. In Canada if, as a parent you disagree with your child’s “transition” you can have your child taken from you. So this is where it’s leading. The slippery slope is real, this woman is completely reasonable and I am in agreement with her but it’s obvious that these sort of views are not the ones that are listened to. You give an inch and there will be a section (in this case a powerful section) that take it WAY to far. If you ask me, I would say return to the 90’s in Britain. You could joke about anything without anyone taking “offence” everyone was free to go about their business as long as it didn’t infringe on other people’s freedom. London was still English... but that’s another story

[@socratesrocks1513]

100% with you on every comment! When 'fact-shaming' becomes a thing, the lunatics have taken over the asylum.

[@afifahhamilton8843]

The last section of your comment might actually be playing a bigger part than it looks.

[@bludeuce3855]

i doubt that would happen in the US cause if it dod millions would protest against the law

[@lukebrown997]

@@howigotover798 learn how to use English before attempting to re-write history.

[@lukebrown997]

@@howigotover798 how many lives have been saved or made unbelievably easier by modern medicine?? Refrigeration? Air conditioning? Sterilisation? Telephones? Radar, sonar, radio, steam engines, combustible engines, printing press, law and order, common law, the Internet, individual rights.... and many, many more inventions or ideas that came from the British that was exported to the rest of the (ungrateful ass&oles aka you) World We also have sent Trillions of pounds worth of humanitarian aid to Africa, saved Europe from the Nazis and the world from Fascism. We exported democracy, education and the rule of law. We ENDED slavery We are the greatest nation ever to set foot on this planet, the GOOD we have brought to the world FAR exceeds the bad. Just because your backwater dump hasn’t done jack don’t blame us.

[@chrisx8902]

The world was a better place when everyone kept their sex lives a private matter.

[@JaneA544]

Didn't that world include the Savile?

[@stonemarten1400]

Not much sympathy for activist Ls, Gs, Bs, Ts, Qs, or +s etc., who now have equal rights in the UK, but still demand their interests are “advanced” over the majority, heterosexual population. Seems like a push for privilege and supremacy and they are usually irredeemably woke. They can carry-on in-fighting as far as I care.

[@douglasfreeman3229]

That is a silly comment. If you have sex you have to bring it to the attention of at least one person. I do not remember a time from the 1970s onwards when everyone kept their sex lives a private matter. To which era are your rose-tinted spectacles directed?

[@Clem62]

I wonder how naming the alliance The Homosexual Alliance whould have gone. I think that I would prefer that. I don't like the word Gay. I don't relate to it and don't understand it. Lesbian is a great word with history and is specific. Homosexual is what I am.

[@davidgervais7840]

The word Homosexual was made up in Germany about 1880 and came into English about1892. It is a made up word, part Greek and part Latin. It tried to medicalize something ordinary as something that needed to be cured. Since then until today, politicians with an agenda of harm to others and religious bigots have used the word to demean and abuse gays (& lesbians & others) to further their own purposes. English, and all other languages continuously create new words and repurpose old ones as needed. This is a natural evolution and people use what works in their language and culture. Creating a miss-matched bastard hybrid compound word and trying to force it into English is ultimately doomed to failure. People prefer to create words that meet their needs and values.

[@gaiopescatore]

@@davidgervais7840 There is nothing wrong with the word homosexual, but it is a technical term. If we object to it on the ground of its hybrid formation, then we must object equally to television and telecommunication. The man who coined the word homosexual (the Austro-Hungarian journalist Karl-Maria Kertbeny) did not intend to imply that homosexuality needed to be “cured”. Gay is a positive word to replace the vile, abusive words used of us by anti-homosexual people, and is more suitable for everyday speech.

[@chrisdavie8163]

@@gaiopescatore Even though "gay" itself has become a slur for schoolchildren to use when something is stupid or bad. You can't win unfortunately.

[@Monia2222]

Excellent. Woman=human adult female ❤

[@MEG-kg8xi]

I am so grateful for women like Bev and the LGB Alliance. A brilliant charity that is very much needed.

[@some-UK-bloke]

except its not a brilliant charity is it! it has violated various charity rules and is currently under investigation by the Charity Commission. You couldn't make this up could you.

[@susanpotter9720]

Ian...sounds like sour grapes mate...how about the offended get their own offended charity so everybody else to go about their happy enlightened bussiness..

[@ReenieG1UK]

@@some-UK-bloke Stonewall trying to stonewall LGB alliance. They are not under investigation.....T’s being rightly removed from LGB where they were never invited....

[@sharifsalem]

@@some-UK-bloke wrong. Broken no rules and only investigation occurred due to a malicious complaint.

[@OrwellsHousecat]

"fact-shaming"???!? *slow solemn headshake and deep sigh of resigned despair

[@Peter-ov6xh]

The reason why the LGB Alliance has been so viciously attacked is that they represent the instinctive views of most people: homosexuality is a private matter but transgenderism is an illogical personal belief that should not be imposed on others. By presenting that reasonable combination of views, they are a riposte to the Stonewall view that you either accept transgenderism or oppose transgenderism, homosexuality, the lot.

[@McChickenXCheese]

"The New Homophobes" is a brilliant band name!

[@goldiebee1967]

Bev Jackson explains the insidious and complicated nature of the conversion bill. Both in the Uk and the horror show in Victoria, Australia. Thank you !

[@winstonschwarz1636]

Reality used to be an enemy to me. It's now a friend. Feels better. Feels good man. My human gets me blues. Well done Bev! Thanks again Brendan.

[@lluisboschpascual4869]

Brave woman, speaking her mind. We need more of that !!!

[@SuperBirdsong]

Bev is a brilliant advocate for young lesbians. She always speaks with such clarity.

[@jackdaw5436]

Bev is a wonderful speaker.

[@joanr3189]

Thanks fo clarifying the terminology, and the implications of the addition of the “T”. Gender vs Sex. I think I understand it now.

[@clc2432]

Medical gender-interventions share many structural similarities to the lobotomy craze of the 40s-60s (experimental and off-label treatments, radical surgery on physically healthy patients, high complication rates, widening the scope potential patients).

[@hlwebb9877]

Fantastic interview, thanks so much Bev.

[@chrisg307]

I was fortunately or unfortunately born female with my mother's brains and my father's looks. As a consequence, all my life I periodically get referred to with masculine pronouns etal, until I speak. I'm used to it, I tell the apologetic interlocutor, ' it's OK, you're batting 500 after all!' Now, if someone, which has never happened, continued, after I spoke, after I presented myself as female despite my looks and often boyish/mannish clothing, to refer to me with male pronouns, it would have to be intended as an insult. Never having been so confronted, I don't know how I would react, but such reminds me of exactly how so-called 'transwomen' insult others when we do not or refuse to refer to them with their announced pronouns which give total lie to their perceived sex. It is the 'trans tyrants' who are being rude, arrogant, exclusionary, narcissistic, belligerent etc with such psychotic demands.

[@MarkErikEE]

If it walks like duck, talks like a duck then it must be a chicken - trans logic regarding conversion therapy. You said it like it is, Bev!

[@bowecho]

It is apparent people dont know the difference between biology and bigotry 🙄

[@wolfwind1]

Excellent discussion. Thank you!

[@chrisdavie8163]

Well we know why Stonewall won't debate with you on the BBC, Bev. They probably despise you. They hate the fact you have taken their narrative away from them and that you are representing those with differing opinions. You have taken a side and many Stonewall supporters are beginning to question what their views, beliefs and morals are. And I completely agree on the Greens, Lib Dems and Labour not seeing reality when it comes to gender vs biological sex. It's a very minor reason, but a reason nonetheless on why the Tories will continue to win - even though they are themselves are infected with the overarching wokeness, which the idea of "gender" is apart of.

[@zefangmeisterbob7592]

One day the world will be controlled by angry men in dresses because they yell the loudest

[@lornaborger5624]

There is alot of social engineering happening here!

[@schmollischolle2641]

where for example?

[@beecat9951]

@@schmollischolle2641 in reorganising society by gender identiy rather than via sex based language that denotes men as male and women as female.

[@lindamckenzie1537]

Fantastic interview. Please have Bev back on again. Such an intelligent and well-spoken woman.

[@gregoryburne5251]

The West has gone mad.

[@MJ-qb5ph]

Thanks. I thought it was me!

[@gregoryburne5251]

@@MJ-qb5ph I actually am mad, but not Current Western Mad. I'm more Old School nuts.

[@robertdoak5223]

Articulate reasoned logical positive willing to engage in discourse an absolute rock in a sea of aggressive dogmatic lunatics who will deny your right to exist and attack you for disagreeing with their new religious dogmas. Well done for speaking out, keep up the fight.

[@flowerjpotter1629]

It is morphing into a religious cult.

[@call_in_sick]

I do not need validation from anyone. I do not need anyone to agree with who I am (gay man) as long as no violence is used I couldn’t give a shit what anyone thinks or says. I don’t get this need for acceptance by the gay and trans community. I don’t get why they care what heterosexual people think of them.

[@loubieloujones5698]

True but I guess trans men & women argue that they need to live fully as their chosen sex. And that's where they clash with women who are understandably reticent about allowing males into their private spaces.

[@peterhardie4151]

I travel a lot, some people dislike you for no reason, just move on. As you say, violence, being treated with prejudice under law or in the workplace, are the big ones.

[@malice7096]

@@loubieloujones5698 But this is a nonsensical argument on their part, by the mere act of striving to live as a certain sex you are acting in contrast to people born that sex who live as they are.

[@loubieloujones5698]

@@malice7096 Quite so. Consistency is not their prime concern. The distinction should be drawn between trans people who mainly just want to get on with their lives & trans activists who are using trans issues for political ends.

[@beecat9951]

@@loubieloujones5698 That's an irrational demand. It's akin to me insisting that I need to live as another race because I enjoy eating sushi or listening to rap music.

[@r.c.3614]

Even though women's rights are being eroded, I feel like we will need the alliance of gay, lesbian & bisexual people to assist in the fight for out rights. I don't believe people are taking notice to the minority of women, but hearing the same arguments from the point of view of gay, lesbian and bisexual people will be heard LOUDER.

[@valerieurquhart3133]

How utterly sad, but you speak the truth.

[@deal2live]

The fight between sex based v gender based, a real debate is required! The conversion therapy of lesbians to trans is allowed, but the treatment of homosexuality to make them heterosexual is banned!

[@MarkMackenzievortism]

What about straightmen? Can they grow up confidently, without being villified for being men?

[@louiseparker1915]

But it's always women who get vilified.

[@MarkMackenzievortism]

@@louiseparker1915 blinkers

[@Shan-pn2vm]

With regards to the trans issue, it does seem to mainly be women who are villified for things like not wanting "trans women" into female spaces. It's not been so common to have "trans men" making a fuss about accessing male spaces.

[@JaneA544]

This discussion is trans ideology is an assault on reality. It is not an attack on men, that sounds like an incel statement. It is women they are trying to remove but just like all insidious cults they will come for the straight male. They are already coming for the children.

[@lindalaw5466]

@@Shan-pn2vm Men are not physically threatened by women in their spaces/ toilets. Women can be physically vulnerable if men have access to theirs. It’s starts small then you have male sex offenders identifying as women,in women’s prisons continuing their behaviour. Look up “Karen” White.

[@ulicadluga]

Perhaps the LGBTQ+ label should be expanded to LGBTQA+. "A" being "Acceptance" - which means "I love the body I'm born with, and I love my history and identity"!

[@chriscoffee9070]

I think it should be changed to 'H' - for 'Human' - no right or law should vary in any way according to any criteria whatsoever. Campaigning for rights for specific groups is inherently divisive, humans should campaign for the same rights for all humans even if 99% of them would never take advantage of that right.

[@ulicadluga]

@@chriscoffee9070 Some laws are there to protect identity, disability rights or disadvantagment. For example the Equality Act does applies to everyone, but not at all times or in all situations. What is your opinion on that legislation? A legislation, I might add, that is often disregarded, particularly by state actors.

[@nuqwestr]

"The Vanity of Small Differences" - Grayson Perry

[@mattrichards8090]

It all started going wrong when we failed to call out the narcissism. Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.

[@rgs6236]

A very Brave lady in a sea of cowards 👏🏽👏🏽 I wish more people had her bravery

[@kev_cub2740]

Respectfully, Stonewall was abt gay & lesbian liberation- but trans ppl were always part of the movement. My understanding for the last 30yrs was that there was a loose agreement that gay & lesbian "rights" were given priority- but w the understanding T "rights" would be fought for after...it turned out not to be as necessary for everyone to come out for trans rights, as they happened along the way... every book ive read in 30yrs, every docco, movies, stories...all paint this picture. I know this, bc I lived in lesbian community for a decade before I transitioned. I fully support the LGB alliance. Gender ideology has created havoc w gay & lesbian peoples lives- same sex attraction is very different to same gender attraction! The T has taken over the whole rainbow- which is unacceptable bc it impinges on everyone else's rights To say the T is "tacked on the end" is misleading. The T was always part of the movement, a small part of the movement, but part none the less~ Gender ideology is a feminist theory, which has escaped the laboratory & absolutely needs to be sent back from where it came. Its done nothing but cause damage, to communities & individuals! The only bit abt this whole interview that troubles me, is trying to fight the re-writing of history... by trying to re-write history.... LGB ppl deserve representation 100%- the T has become Toxic in overstepping itself- that's the problem... that T was a small part of the original movement, is not a problem on its own. Gender ideology is the problem.

[@roxee57]

The T part that was there at the beginning was an acknowledgement that some very feminine gay boys and very masculine lesbian girls were so vilified by society they came to believe they would be happier if they changed their appearances so they matched their femininity and masculinity, a group which Blanchard & co calls HSTS, homosexual transexuals. There was also another T part of autogynephiles, which are people who transitioned because their sexual orientation was inverted to their inner paraphilia of imagining themselves as women. So both were still about sexual orientation. Neither were this gender identity essence supersedes sex idea we’re dealing with now, even if people in these two groups have adopted the language.

[@ulicadluga]

54:05 - Scary that "Liz Truss" has to be dragged out as a "positive example" of a politician. Surely, that just underlines Labour's failings.

[@jonjakb5193]

Why,Liz Truss has been doing a great job hasn't she?

[@ulicadluga]

@@jonjakb5193 Oh, you old cynic!

[@jonjakb5193]

@@ulicadluga ?

[@ulicadluga]

@@jonjakb5193 You weren't being serious about "dizzy Lizzy", surely?

[@PepsiMagt]

@@ulicadluga why do you dislike Liz Truss?

[@robertjantz3728]

words are spells...that's why its called spelling....and we got the wrong witches and warlocks casting them right now...

[@OrwellsHousecat]

👏🏽👏🏽

[@DieFlabbergast]

"lesbianism"?? I didn't realise it was a political philosophy, or even a "way of life." I thought it was just a sexual preference, or am I missing something?

[@janesmith8050]

It is not a "political philosophy" nor a "way of life", but an innate sexual orientation.

[@DieFlabbergast]

@@janesmith8050 It seems you have difficulty recognising sarcasm on the Internet. As for "sexual orientation," this is just a pretentious neo-psychobabble way of saying what I said -- "sexual preference." And if by "innate," you mean "congenital (i.e. you are born that way), this does not necessarily apply to 100 percent of male or female homosexuals.

[@janesmith8050]

@@DieFlabbergast Sexual orientation is not the same as sexual preference you pitiful ignoramus.

[@micksc1]

I support the super straight and super gay peoples

[@bigceazer]

#TeamTerf

[@clewis2666]

Bev a trans-lator? That sounds problematic!

[@nuqwestr]

San Francisco, 1985, gay man says to lesbian woman, "let's start a movement called GL", lesbian woman, "no, men are always 1st, let's call it LG", bi-person says, "what about us?", gay man says, "nonsense, no such thing as bi, but okay, let's call it LGB". I was there, it started just so; both gender and ID politics were injected at the get-go.

[@dumbidiot973]

^^^

[@RB-jl2qb]

You speak of gender /sex - not gender identity which is a whole different ball game.

[@OrwellsHousecat]

Conversion. It's very clear that in the newly imposed worldview the only allowable direction is away from straight, away from m/f, not towards either.

[@nemosays6337]

Removing sex based rights is the first stepping stone to removing all individual/human rights!

[@mihairotto3]

Glad to hear this topic from a non religious, non right wing and not anti abortion channel if you know what I mean! (At minute 22:42 approximately :.. illegally in late '90 brutal conversion was happening in private structure in North London and probably in many other places too, I really hope those places don't operate anymore or maybe are the same people of Tavistock?.. Unfortunately people with a lot of money find a way to bypass the law and those structures don't look like hospitals from the outside they are well hidden.. I m scared to say too much )

[@simpaticaism]

Time to stop using alphabet spaghetti talk , this American way of talking creates huge blind spots on the understanding of words and a clever way of hoodwinking what people embroil themselves in .

[@davidlawes4954]

We need to start talking more about matters tha affect only biological men and biological women who are happy to stay that way. As a biological male who was circumcised for misguided medical reasons shortly after birth and subsequently regrew my foreskin (which IS possible), I went for years thinking that I'd done something weird. It doesn't seem so weird now, in an age where the NHS asks men if they're pregnant. In fact it's no different to an adult human female having a mastectomy and subsequently having breast reconstructive surgery, which they've been having for years. If men can get pregnant and have periods, they can certainly regrow their foreskin if they suffer the misfortune to have it cut off.

[@davefitzgerald5334]

I don't like ye alarmists. Sounding unnecessary alarm paranoia and panic. Don't get your knickers in a twist! Let's stay relaxed and calm here.

[@blugreen99]

I was with born with the wrong head.O was told... do not adust your mind there is afault in reality.

[@ginigang]

Gender is also used in gramnar.

[@bayblues5623]

wonderful!

[@moonchild1518]

Great to hear thank you.

[@TonyLing]

*T* is not a sexual preference. There is a strong case for characterising the transitioning of gender, the social construct, as a form of aversion therapy.

[@markrymanowski719]

The politicians follow the agenda. They are prisoners too.

[@user-nd9re8vr6l]

What is a women 🤨🤷‍♂️🤔🧐?

[@philipferguson8570]

Im with Bev.

[@DezleySD7]

I want to be a dog

[@Lis-im2rh]

This was a good one

[@Philippoable]

Can't help but think 'reap what you sow'. There's a lot of bellyaching of the previous generation of woke activists on this issue. Shared opposition against it does not an alliance constitute and, frankly, they stand to lose more than the rest of us. So good luck, I guess, but this one's on you to tackle. Don't come running to the heteronormative patriarchal xenophobic majority you used to fight against.

[@karinelaxa959]

Chill, litl boy, we won’t!

[@MJ-qb5ph]

At times she sounds like a more accessible less intellectual version of Jordan Petersen when he talks on these issues and at others she sounds like Dave Chappelle. All three get that the world has totally lost the plot

[@somerandomhomeboy]

Hiya, you do a great job. It would be even better if you remember us that Brendan's shows are audio only.Cheers!

[@sifiska]

Just having to have this conversation, is evidence that the West is finished.

[@mortuaryartist]

I don’t mind bevs beliefs. If I was gay, I am not ,I would rather it was my private business. Apparently it’s for public scrutiny..why

[@MrClaphamguy]

Did you miss the bit where Australian legislation was mentioned? Legislation is a matter that requires PUBLIC scrutiny?

[@schmollischolle2641]

Because the fight for Human rights is something that needs to be done in Public.

[@mortuaryartist]

@@MrClaphamguy I rewatched the whole thing.what are you on. Why is your sexual business public knowledge ?

[@mortuaryartist]

Get your coat I think I have pulled 😁

[@mortuaryartist]

@@schmollischolle2641 I have just seen your recent comments. You dreadful person. You really are

[@monsieurlewop]

Marred by Bev's gratuitous and counter-productive comparison of gender woo to 'anti-vax' and those of us who don't worship 'climate change'. A shame.

[@mmundey9595]

Enough. Done.

[@MJ-qb5ph]

It is nuts isn’t it?

[@johndub3866]

I enjoyed and appreciated this discussion right up to the point where anti vaxxers were brought up and slagged off. You should absolutely be skeptical of the vax. Any analysis of the situation in Israel would show why. This greatly weakened her arguments

[@sdrawkcabUK]

Unfortunately those with qualms about _this particular vaccine_ (rightly so IMO) have been lumped in with people who thinks it’s all a plot by bill gates to microchip people. Kind of strange she goes through all of contortions to explain her position yet falls for the simplistic ‘anti vax’ trope

[@randygault4564]

Let's rewind just one more step, and have it the GLB Alliance....

[@CatherineKarena]

Most of the work is done by the L and the least amount of funding goes to L snd the biggest impact of GII is on L

[@hachwarwickshire292]

Initially I was sympathetic but as she goes on ... "right wing anti-abortion" ... "we are not those people" ... a secular jew (I'm assuming marxist) ...complaining about receiving the very abuse she dishes out to those she disagrees with. "Extreme right blah blah blah..." No .... first they came for someone, and you helped ! so no now they've come for you tough.

[@UnrepentantFenian]

She did this to our society and now she wants us to give a fuck. Bit late now

[@deal2live]

If you are a trans women that likes women are you a lesbian? Well trans women are women?

[@EM-cg4iy]

That is exactly what they claim, and they hold workshops on how to make lesbians sleep with them.

[@stevehall9333]

I rather think she's part of the problem.

[@OrwellsHousecat]

T are doing to Wmn today what Feminism did to Men since yesterday. It's your turn.

[@schmollischolle2641]

now that is just wrong in every single way.

[@carolecollins853]

Ridiculous comment

[@niallmurray8654]

I am a heterosexual kind of traditional male, I have never felt threatened by feminism. I stand with my sisters, straight and gay who are fighting this misogyny

[@annetteannette9205]

@@niallmurray8654 Thank you Niall.

[@spm36]

In essence this woman's ideology is now at odds with another like ideology and she uses this platform she likely disliked to air her gripes....not interested...byeeeee!

[@schmollischolle2641]

"the Mantra was no debate" "They just wouldn't talk to us" Why do I feel that's severely shortened? So Stonewall has nerver put out a Statement on any of the issues you mentioned? Seriously? Someone just Ghosting an issue is rare, very rare especially in the case of an Organisation that is vety vocal on gay rights especially. This Sounds like you asking the same question multiple Times, getting responses and when the same question is not answered anymore, suddenly noone ever engaged in discussion with you. Now that is a hunch i have and not reality, but "noone ever engaged with us" seems so unrealistic that i just had to try to make sense of it.

[@markkavanagh7377]

words mean what they mean, unless you are a Wokist in an argument, then they can mean anything.

[@schmollischolle2641]

@@markkavanagh7377 and that pertains to the argument how exactly?

[@robjohnston1433]

Stonewall has completely lost my support (I can just hear them moaning and wailing, NOW!). To label fellow Homosexists "haters" and "transphobes" simply for wanting a discussion of these issues is disgusting.

[@JaneA544]

I suggest you listen to nolan investigates it will blow your mind, & schmoll .....

[@some-UK-bloke]

what are you talking about? being trans is all about gender, not sexual orientation. You really must stop trying to link the two together, they are seperate. Therefore stating that if you allow conversion theropy then the person will turn out Lesbian, Gay or Bi is simply a load of crap. If you think this, then you aren't really understanding anything about gender id. It would be like trying to make someone write left handed, when they are right handed. A Trans person (ie a person born male, and identifying as female) can of course still be Lesbian, Gay or Bi. The two things are seperate. Bev Jackson will have you believe that a person identifying themselves as the opposite gender to which they are born, is obviously confused because they are really just lesbian, bi or gay, which is wrong. Get educated on this.

[@boudicca9807]

This is a typical word salad to say that a man can declare himself a lesbian if he identifies as female. Again, she covers this in the video - lesbians are accused of genital fetishism for preferring their own sex when they want to have sex. It's about same sex attraction, not same gender attraction. Sex is about bodies, not 'gender identity'.

[@charlottejones7585]

Take Blair White for example. I see her as a straight woman. However her s-e-x is male which cannot unfortunately be changed no matter how painful that will be for some trans people. But although I personally see her as a straight woman- who by the way is a bastion of common sense and someone I really respect -her sexual orientation is actually homosexual. That cannot be changed.

[@EM-cg4iy]

Gender identity is the idea that your soul can have a penis so powerful it overrides your actual vagina. I don’t believe in bepenised souls or any souls at all. It’s a ridiculous fairytale.

[@JaneA544]

No they cannot be lesbian as they will always be male

[@monsieurlewop]

You are terribly confused. Just one point: no-one is born into a 'gender'.

[@schmollischolle2641]

Really? "Im a woman because I can give birth and that "woman" can't do that and that is what makes me a woman." What about infertile women? What about women who don't want to get pregnant? what about women who want to be a mother but can't to not conpromise their health? Are they not women? Are they now men? No. Listen to what you are saying sometimes.

[@patrickmccartney7544]

Such a weird argument

[@schmollischolle2641]

@@patrickmccartney7544 I find my Argument rather Solid.

[@niallmurray8654]

Even women who are infertile or can't have children for other reasons still have a cervix.

[@schmollischolle2641]

@@niallmurray8654 and that is what makes a woman? Why?

[@carolecollins853]

@@schmollischolle2641 It's not solid at all. All the examples you mentioned are still women...born and observed as women from birth..

[@jaderington]

She's a hater , end off !

[@toottoot6019]

Trans Women are Women. Trans Men are Men.

[@jaderington]

@@toottoot6019 I agree . Just not in the biological scene.

[@lesleybthedapperkiwi]

Trans women are Trans women - period

[@robjohnston1433]

Mx White "... end of" nothing! Of course trans-people deserve respect and kindness -- just like every other human being. To label someone a "transphobe" or "hater" simply for a disagreement is a dishonest use of toxic language to shut people up. It is simply undeniable that transwomen DO retain the "male superiority" attitudes with which they were brought up. It seems that A FEW transwomen who retain these "superior" attitudes are trying to bully Lesbians into "submission" This is EXACTLY why women demanded "Women Only Spaces" in the first place ... because most Men (no matter how Left/Progressive) will automatically wish to take control of any situation/conversation/space. You only have to look at the Nursing profession, which is -- hugely -- a female profession, yet the relatively few male nurses take up an inordinately high proportion of the "top jobs", from Matron upward. If "intact" transwomen ARE allowed into "Women Only Spaces", they WILL tend to "take over" -- it is inevitable!

[@Babemovac]

@@robjohnston1433 brilliantly put 👏🏻