THE RITCHIE REVIEW - BMW 640d Gran Coupe, and the best kept secret about it.

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BMW 640d Review. This is the BMW 6 series Gran Coupe version of the BMW 6 series range; it also comes in a coupe and a convertible. (Music from this episode below). Howard, is a Tribe Leader alongside Clarkson Hammond and May on Drive Tribes.
The car featured is the 5-second, 0-60 313bhp BMW 3 litre triple turbo engine. It was fitted with the M Sport packages including the Harmon Kardon and the BMW LED lights.
The optional BMW multi function control panel and the 20-inch wheels. Prices start from £63,000 but there are huge discounts and BMW used ones are extremely cheap.
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About:
Howard Ritchie is a British male voice over who works as the imaging voiceover for Global Radio in the UK and on the UK big top 40 show. He also works alongside international clients in 14 countries as a radio imaging voiceover.
He has presented national radio programmes, and narrated several TV series’ for Virgin Media Television
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HR in a Car

[@tbtunes_]

Dad has one great car really really good looking, looks really high end, pretty fast, great interior and great tech hard to fault this car most underrated BMW ever

[@howardnoble3075]

I own one. Two years old, half its invoice value when new = absolute bargain. Amazing car

[@HRINACAR]

Good one man.... yes might get one myself, not too keen on the standard leather tho.

[@rneoman]

Looking at getting one too, there are hardly any on the road in my city which is a bonus

[@jondoyle44]

Just got mine a week ago 2016... it gets better every day...

[@xDAAAZEx]

Going to buy one of these (2016 640d) next week at 23 years old really is a huge achievement for me. Thank you for your video, it’s definitely pushed me towards one of these! I can’t wait.

[@alexfernandes3402]

How's the ownership going? I'm literally at the same point as you right now😂. I'm 23 aswell, worked really hard to be in the position to afford these cars. I've had my heart on an A5 but now I'm seriously considering the 640d coupe 2016. How are the running costs?

[@mart099]

Great vid. I have had my 640d GC for 3 months now and have to say it's one of the best cars I've had. I've had 5 series E90 535d and F10 530d for last 8 years and they were great but this is just something else. I can't wait to get in it in the morning. It looks amazing, drives so well and is just fun. The looks you get from others drivers is great to see. Subscribed my friend.

[@HRINACAR]

hm, interesting indeed!

[@sarahwalton9657]

how did the fuel consumption compare with F10 530d?

[@kcranny9375]

Discovered you channel a week ago. And it is brilliant! Gonna keep watching all of your reviews, hopefully that will help with popularity. Just brilliant honest reviews! Love it!

[@PetrolPed]

Absolutely superb production ! This is a great review and I now see why you have the Subs you do 👍 I was great meeting you yesterday and I look forward to seeing more content from you.

[@HRINACAR]

Same dude

[@Like500Nuns]

This is the review I've been wanting, great editing and great commentary

[@seanmurphy574]

I've just bought one 4 weeks ago. The 6 series has been my dream car for 30 years. And now it's time to play 🎉😎

[@johnwalton2019]

Totally agree that this guy should join the Top Gear team - come on BBC, sign him up....brilliant!

[@akamal226]

a review that addresses real life concerns that come with owning a car in this class ! very well done !

[@jessewhite4035]

This is a really well done, well produced review. Keep them up

[@jamesward7425]

Your experience as a professional VO artist make such a difference. Great review!

[@jjs3287]

May or may not end up buying one of these but this is, by far, the best youtube car review video I have ever watched. My only criticism is that it was too short.

[@filiprangus5826]

Great vid, thank you for inspiring to buy it !

[@swiss889]

Brilliant review, just picked one up it’s fantastic and makes you feel special

[@cinnamonbootz]

Have a 5 series rn can’t wait to get a 6 series in the future tho always loved the look

[@mohussain5473]

Cracking review , keep up the good work mate!

[@technurd80]

I just bought one, absolutely love it. In fact I love it a little bit more each time I drive it. Fantastic car!

[@Reakted]

I've never liked BMW that much but I fell in love with this car!

[@darrenq71]

I've owned mine for 2 years, I've had a remap done and its now 396bhp and 720nm goes like stink and gets looks from all ages, amazing car.

[@raulbarsan8582]

How's the fuel consumption after the remap mate?

[@darrenq71]

@@raulbarsan8582 just the same, I live outside town so usually get around 40 -42 mpg on a long run it still does 47mpg. Great economy for the amount of power, my son drives a mapped Audi S3 and my 640d smokes it lol

[@raulbarsan8582]

Thank you!

[@tango22ah]

I’m doing research to get one and after watching this I am a genuinely excited middle aged man.

[@chrishext6889]

Just bought one, excellent thanks Howard for a great review

[@iantownsend5480]

Brilliant car. It's on my lotto list

[@pmss1ps]

Do you know Where can I get one for 20k?

[@jordanl5064]

Ian Townsend you could get one for something 80K that's the lowest it'll go. Still kinda affordable. Cars above 100K is what you'd call a lottery car for people that doesn't have money

[@jordanl5064]

Ian Townsend my dealer has a new 2015 650i GC that was originally around 100K but now it's on some sort of sale so you can get it for 85K for a limited time.

[@iantownsend5480]

Jordan L cheers for the info. I already know all this but thanks anyway

[@MKRM27]

Jordan L That's not a great discount. I bought a year old 640d M Sport with an incredible spec, and amazing condition. New price was £82k... 9k miles later... cost me £37k.

[@sj6127]

Excellent video, great editing. You've earned a subscriber :)

[@dweatherley]

Your videos are brilliant, I don't understand how you don't have more subscribers!

[@MarkFreeman50cal]

Bought mine a year ago. Never regreted it! Go for it guys!

[@minder29]

Excellent video, you deserve a heck of a lot more subscribers

[@HRINACAR]

Thanks Minder. Sharing is caring!

[@macxud]

its indeed a good piece of technology, your reviews are very entertaining

[@csanvi]

very nice review HR..pls review more

[@photowalk.podcast]

Superb Howard... great timing... good comedic edge... I can see where you're going now!

[@HRINACAR]

Thanks broadcast hero.

[@fdmc2278]

Great video!!! The 640d is brilliant car and I adore it. I do have 5 series but nit comparable with this colossal vehicle.

[@aarvin1]

Man your videos are gorgeous! Congrats!

[@HRINACAR]

I'll lap these up until the trolls begin when I get the numbers :) I will save these in a little pamphlet

[@user-ii8ht4bg1n]

Great review 👍 recently bought 640D F13 no parking issues 😂 car runs amazing and the consumption is wonderful great car ever

[@tedhodnett]

Had a number of 5 series in the past in saloon and tourer in M sport spec and more recently had a cracking E92 330d Coupe, but just got a 17 plate sonic blue 640d and so pleased with it, it looks good, drives well and goes even better.

[@staytruealways207]

The 6 series is one of bmw’s most underrated cars (my favorite series btw) such a shame it’s been discontinued as it was just starting to become popular amongst younger drivers just like the 5 series.

[@luke1811]

it's just been succeeded by the 8 series.

[@unicornseller4225]

Mate you got me crying about parking 😭 💀 🤣😂🤣 amazing vid 👏 ❤

[@Neil2022]

Very good, professional video review.

[@HRINACAR]

Thanks for the bobbing approval.

[@seanlfc0792]

HR in a Car

[@andydomanski2876]

A 640d is my next car, I'm going for the 2 door though. Great review, thank you. Subscribed! 👍

[@DorsetPropertyTV]

Fantastic review! Don’t subscribe to many but have to this awesome channel!

[@pakruojezieds6065]

This is really good. You deserve many more views and subscribers. Cheers!

[@HRINACAR]

Thanks person who looks like James May. The sound on that New Order video is epic... btw.

[@pakruojezieds6065]

+HR in a Car thank you for the nice reply :-)

[@stephanvelines7006]

It's great, engine is reliable and fast. Good review.

[@RogerBaileyOnCars]

Another really great video, funny, informative, interesting point of view. Hope you get on the tele soon. I have shared this vid, hope you gain a much bigger audience, don't forget your early fans when you end up on top gear, or what replaces it - or Grand Tour or something.

[@HRINACAR]

Ha well I am on with them lot for Drive Tribes ... we shall see - obvs viewers are the producers!!! They come first.

[@RogerBaileyOnCars]

Never heard of Drive Tribes until now. Thanks, it looks good, I've sent them my MR2 video for a laugh - mine not theirs obviously. Good luck with it!

[@andymejia8572]

Just bought one waiting for carvana to deliver it .. super excited

[@asriazmi]

Awesome review

[@mortenberg2897]

Very, very nice video/review 👍😎

[@Ollie0288]

Just bought a 67 plate 640d GC and love it so far. Always been on my list of dream cars and the value they offer is amazing. Loving it so far, your review video played a major part in distance buying this without a test drive 😂. Best lookimg car BMW have made imo, and great points made in the video 👍

[@MikaHakkinen83]

Still have it?

[@PixelatedExistence]

Haha thumbs up for the parking at 1:50 Nice review!

[@stevewight2000]

Just discovered your videos and safe to say I subscribed immediately. All the best, you should be on TV

[@HRINACAR]

Cheers Major glad to meet you dude - welcome to the club.

[@joesm00th]

Great presenting!

[@tuningemporium]

best video review of a BMW ever :)

[@ndex]

Great vid mate ... Now I want a GC even more.. 🏃.. off to swap my 5

[@Parknest]

Howard, this video is very well produced and the presentation is better than some so-called "professionals". Unfortunately, a 640 is way out of my reach unless. I paid a measly £250 for my 1995 E36 318i and you've got to own a BMW to "get it". There's too many numpty BMW owners who can't drive for toffee which has given them a bad name. The older the car and/or driver, the more respect I have for somebody in a BMW.

[@jonelliott1548]

I have exactly the same colour and model as in the video, which is a great review. Took a chance over a 5 series and do not regret it. It’s a fantastic car to drive.

[@onlyhuman7420]

What's the name of this colour?

[@tenti1524]

I havent seen a bad review of one of these yet , cant wait to get one

[@HRINACAR]

There are bad points, but not many I was surprised myself. I am looking for one to swap out into from my 535d

[@adamboaluan5501]

Oh man i love my car, it just got that exspensive look to it and it drives like a high end var to. It’s just perfect

[@ernadsBMW]

Love this beautiful car

[@ian7675]

Liking these reviews especially as I'm a BMW lover. Out of interest where do you get your cars to review?

[@HRINACAR]

Thats the hard part :) This was a borrow from Reading ... didn't you note the massive plug :)

[@davesavage8672]

I bought one 18 months ago at 3 years old with 8500 miles on the clock, would have been £75k new with all the options, got it for less than half price. What a car, does everything well, I've averaged 42mpg in it over 36000 miles, yet kept up with 911s on the way to Goodwood, had it parked with supercars at Wilton, never looks out of place. All the car you'll ever need. Yes it's too big for UK parking spaces, but I just park further from the shops. Good review, like your work.

[@MetalVII]

Is that 42mpg on the motorway or around town? I’m looking at this or a 4 series...seriously tempted by 640d but need to know the mpg really.

[@beeryweery]

@@MetalVII if you can't afford fuel, you can't afford a GC

[@adrianmccarthy7655]

Fantastic review cant wait to get mine picking a 2016 m sport + up next week

[@hughiemg2]

Picking up my 2015 640d m sport next week too! Good luck with yours...

[@adrianmccarthy7655]

@@hughiemg2 best of luck with yours also

[@openureyes]

I've had 50+ cars in my lifetime some shit some very good but I have to say this car the 640d is in my top 5 and very close to the top its a fantastic motor

[@pedromanafaia]

Brilliant car

[@kamilrouibah6083]

Just bought a 2017 640d collecting it on Saturday . Wish me luck 😆going from a 520d

[@dexterfurman9118]

Is it comparable to a Porsche or Ferrari? No it is not. Those are sport cars with limited interior room and not very comfortable. I have a 650i xdrive convertible and I love it. This is the perfect blend of sportiness, comfort and luxury. I am not a young kid who wants to race or make hair pin turns. I am an adult and I love taking the 6 series on long scenic trips with comfort and style.

[@maxgti3644]

Just seen this highly informative video. HR, you are the man! I've just sold my 2013 Jaguar XJL and looking for a replacement. This is somewhat at the top of my shortlist.......

[@HRINACAR]

MaxGTI you wont like the seat after xj but worth a look

[@maxgti3644]

The seat in the XJ has no lateral support! I sold my 911 last year and looking for one car to be both a 911 and an XJ!! The Gran Coupe seems to fit the bill - you made it look so in this video. I am smitten :-)

[@greenrath]

@HR I think your review is one of the main reasons I have spent the last 3 months searching for a 6 series which ticks all the boxes and is of course within budget! Many thanks, keep up the good work and I agree with previous poster you should certainly be applying for Top Gear!! :-)

[@HRINACAR]

Ha ha - well hope you find one mate. Good time now you are correct. No change till 2018 - late and then there will be none on the roads. Will look like an 80k car for ages.

[@greenrath]

This is in danger of becoming something of an obsession! What would be your thoughts on a 2014 with high mileage but with a full main dealer service history? Don't worry won't hold you to it!! Cheers mate :-)

[@HRINACAR]

Well, easily take over your life :) Mileage is less of an issue, care and owners and condition is. If you buy from a passionate owner no issues, you get to save money. Buy the BMW warranty though. Personally I always buy inside the network however. Its good but...Its not the perfect car of all cars, nothing is, only the value you place on it any given day..... so don't let it consume you too much and keep eye open.

[@greenrath]

Wise words indeed. The search continues...... ( as well as life in general :-)) Cheers mate.

[@greenrath]

Purchase made, 2013 M Sport, low mileage and one very happy new owner!! :-) Thanks for the advise mate. Now for the open road.....

[@rickimoran8665]

That, is a brilliant review, 👏🏻

[@rickimoran8665]

And I agree with the person who said you should be on top gear

[@HRINACAR]

What lovely comments. Don't worry the haters will be on their way...any day now.

[@HRINACAR]

Friends for life. :)

[@johnnypav]

Brilliant I'm having one

[@G82_M]

The reasons you mentioned are the exact reason why I brought one of these. 👍🏻

[@SimGuySilver]

I'm in the market for one as we speak

[@stubones]

Fantastic video :) now you made me want one…

[@RobbieKiama]

convincing...

[@everythingsamsungpro7839]

We got one great car

[@BH-tf5zz]

Currently have a 640d and an M3 F80 and I can honestly say I get more compliments in the 640d GC! Such a great car, aged superbly also!

[@S-u-p-a]

Is rhe performance comparable you think

[@BH-tf5zz]

@@S-u-p-a Stock vs Stock (no) the f80 feels quicker but remap the 640d and you’re in the same bhp bracket 400+(ish) my opinion the 640d is the better all round car.

[@S-u-p-a]

​@@BH-tf5zz so I will keep mine. Scared of remapping it. Tbh stock is quick but not as quick as my previous remapped 430d X drive.

[@BH-tf5zz]

@@S-u-p-a a remapped 640d will munch most things on the road I don’t think anyone truly understands until they drive one mapped how quick they actually are, mid range you need something really quick to embarrass it

[@vitogiacalone8044]

Bought it new in 2014 , never stop amusing and still turn heads on the road! Bound to be a classic

[@KaranKaul94]

Still going strong? I’m planning on buying a used 2014. Anything to look out for? Failures etc. Trading in a 13 year old c class for this. Hoping it’ll make me smile for years to come

[@vitogiacalone8044]

@@KaranKaul94 you will not be disappointed, owners of such a car tend to be Caring fir their car,

[@Goated483]

He’s right journalists without a car of their own are giving opinions on cars based on track stats or comparing each car by every inch, but in reality all cars are great in their own way. So buy what you want!

[@verordnung]

Best review of my car :)

[@jameslittlechild7156]

fantastic review, I hear Top Gear are interviewing!

[@HRINACAR]

You. Silly.

[@jameslittlechild7156]

I think you've got a great shout for it mate, get your agent involved!

[@salamanejkum]

I'm owning 640d coupe and it is a gem.I have to say that I'm not bmw fan but this one is worth every penny I paid for.

[@HRINACAR]

Soft or hard steering has yours got?

[@EDGARCO94]

Subscribed!!

[@HRINACAR]

BOOM

[@gowwar491]

I can’t wait to get mine... in a week! I much prefer this design to the 8 serie or even the 6 grand tourismo. Proportions of that car are just so perfect. I did not take the diesel though.

[@ironmerc225]

How is it going? And did you get the 640i?

[@gowwar491]

@@ironmerc225 I love it. It the best sedan I have had. Love the design, the engine (that does not weight much on the front) and the balance. Just wish the brakes were a bit better better!

[@chrishext6889]

Howard is great, and yes he should be on Top Gear or Fifth Gear

[@delboy2596]

One of the best looking BM's right now. It's one of the few four door cars that could tempt me out of my 4 series coupe. HR where was that pub in the video 5.27? thanks

[@HRINACAR]

Erm its a hotel bud, White Swan, bibury maybe?

[@delboy2596]

Thanks for that.

[@HRINACAR]

Cheers for lookin.

[@everythingsamsungpro7839]

We got a speced put 640d gran coupe msport in white Its perfect

[@Zuxeh]

Awesome, how do you find the ride overall? Did yours have Variable Damper Control?

[@everythingsamsungpro7839]

@@Zuxeh DON'T KNOW bro but beyond good car stands out lots ticks every box

[@Zuxeh]

@@everythingsamsungpro7839 Gotcha, thanks a lot.

[@thetad1242]

Hahaha this guy is funny. He brought a measurement of garages.... I'm dead

[@GY9944]

Your music choices for the video is Grade A

[@HRINACAR]

GY thanks mate

[@dewaynesummers8105]

I absolutely love my 650i

[@excusemeforbeingsorry]

How's the engine holding up? Going for the Diesel since i heard so many reliability issues with the engines in the 550i/650i cars

[@csereal100]

Im just not sure which one should I get, a diesel or petrol 640i ? If its about diesel cars its always problem with fuel injectors and DPF

[@martinbond461]

I had a 530d touring and then bought an Audi Q7 which was properly big! I looked at the 640d but ended up with a 435d Gran Coupe which is the best compromise in terms of size

[@jukkarinta8670]

Agree with all said in the video, but I found that a normal 6-series is just not special enough... after I had seen and tried an M6... 😎

[@milnazachod]

I could learn from you how to make short yet fully informative video (did the job for me) . i would take me 20 mins to get the same message across :)

[@harshkavya6925]

Yeah!!!! it's an amazing review, But does anyone have any idea which song is played in the video???? please tell if anyone knows.....

[@HRINACAR]

Which one brother

[@blower1]

lol @ the parking criteria - i'm the same....dirty car - nope, scraped up car - nope, near trolley bay or a trolley - nope, kids seats in the back - nope......supermarkets are the worse place to park a car, doors smashing into yours, trolleys flying into it and then there's the disgruntled people who will just key a nice looking car ....i now mainly shop at Sainsburys or M&S, and if i have to pop into my local Asda the car is parked a long way from anything.......hmm i think i have become a car snob!

[@HRINACAR]

Aldi for me.

[@maxgti3644]

I do the same, Blower!

[@Grimbo]

Great video.. I have this car and I love it. The question is though, what do I get next (in 2 years).. Any ideas?

[@HRINACAR]

after 640d? Hm another one? New 7 will be lower price then...

[@Grimbo]

I'm desperately clinging onto what's left of my youth - I think a 7 series will tip me over the brink! I was thinking either an Audi or a Tesla, but you may be right.. another 640!

[@HRINACAR]

Tesla need to work on their looks, Audi new range nice if they fix the nav. 7 is super cool with the lights inside man. Properly Lord.

[@adztheangel]

Great vid! New subscriber here :) quick question, how do you get to test drive all these BMWs without having to have the salesman sit next to you all the time?

[@HRINACAR]

Hello - this was a service vehicle mate if I am honest, but some BMW dealers will do an unaccompanied test drive if you ask in advance nicely. Some will some wont. Some can be bothered, some cant. :) As if sitting with you makes any difference, to closing you. Building relationships! Insurance is also a slight issue as they are not insured to let you go out. Booking you out in a car is hassle, however not so much if its a demo and you want to buy new.

[@adztheangel]

Awesome, thanks for that. Loving the channel!

[@jspope2008]

Just bought one today. Hope I made the right choice! From what you say I did.

[@HRINACAR]

OOOO how exciting :)

[@maxnix346]

Real world cars are always the most interesting ones.

[@golfdweller3815]

Howard, BMW are currently selling a £73k 640d M Sport, 17 plate with 3000’ish miles, for less than £40k... 😳. Should I cast off my Land Rover Discovery Sport and buy it? 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️. Cracking review though, thanks.

[@HRINACAR]

You will pay £500 odd for road tax on the 640d though. And you will be low down. And the steering is quite firm, but ......that seems like a unusual deal worth checking validity of at 2015 with 30k miles is retailing at 27k - so you will still stand to loose over 10k per year on it, even though it seems cheap. I'd buy a 16 or 15 for £28.

[@thecarbandits7834]

Great video. but you forgot the CLS.

[@HRINACAR]

Thanks Marco.. Nah, different animals, CLS is ok but they don't make an equally powerful version.

[@edsmith1757]

The problem with BMW is that with Merc and Audi they are the most common sight on the road . A Panamara is seen as a class above and used car values suggest this . I'm happy about this because when it falls to 12 -15 grand that's when I'll get mine

[@richlee509]

Bloody ugly

[@Devrim283]

I have the exactly same, same colour too. One hell of a car. Even better after a remap the car feels even smoother.

[@66Pipes66]

Did you get a generic map or have it done properly,I’d like to know if it improved mpg’s too,is the long motorway journey 50 mpg achievable in real life?

[@Devrim283]

66Pipes66 well i got someone to do it. I always get 45mpg no matter what. Really opens up the engine. Best £200 i spent. But i would recommend going to a good place to get it done. So they can change the bhp on your sports dials. If u put it on eco mode and drive like a granny u can acheive 50mpg.

[@davidwells7377]

I picked up a 67 plate with 4000 miles with list of £73k for £39k in March. I have to say its a fantastic machine. I traded in a Jag. The tech in the BMW is years ahead of JAG and much faster. I did change the runflats for Conti 6's and the ride improvement makes its a better car. You do sit low but once you've got used to that you realise you're in a special machine. The diesel even makes a pleasing growl when you floor it. Mine doesn't have the adaptive suspension which I suspect would improve the ride even more. It looks great, drives great - whats not to like at £39k.

[@HRINACAR]

David Wells how quiet percentage difference on non run flats?

[@davidwells7377]

HR in a Car I wouldn't say it was noticeably quieter on a smooth road, certainly not noisier. Where you notice it is over the bumps the low profile runflats are brittle over the bumps and there is no give in the tyre wall. So it is louder and harsher. I understand BMW have given up insisting on fitting them as standard. About time too given all the feedback. I also lost one runflat to a pothole in the first week. I suspect they are more susceptible to wall damage. They have a plastic liner in the wall that if you break it the wall will swell. Hope that helps.

[@HRINACAR]

David Wells ok sure but the jaguar 16 onwards has slightly more acceptable nav and that meridian is a selling point for me and the£800 extended warranty is cheap after the two years. I am also looking at gc but had about 3 now so maybe i am over it. Defo did not like the 650 whatsoever

[@davidwells7377]

HR in a Car I had a 3.0d XJ Portfolio. What converted me back to BMW was a guy I know who had a new 2017 Range Rover Autobiography with the new JLR entertainment/office interface. He had lots of trouble connecting his phone and the screen kept crashing. I looked on line and this is not unusual. The Idrive has been evolving and improving. The connectivity is impressive and still way ahead of the new JLR system in my view.

[@HRINACAR]

David Wells that is my concern - there is an update but if his was a 17 it may be before the 17 update. Yeh researching for a F pace film i also found those horror stories and they are still going back in now. It would be a major issue for it to keep going in.

[@presidentchow5904]

fantastic review. Top Gear standard

[@MKRM27]

I have one. It doesn't, however, sit in its own niche. Of course they drive and feel differently, but it's competitive set is the A7 and CLS - the other cars I considered.

[@HRINACAR]

Neither A7 or CLS have those torque BHP and consumption numbers, or the Nav and connected drive - hence I guess why you bought one. Also the 6 price is arguably higher than both A7 and CLS like for like engines.

[@MKRM27]

HR in a Car Nonsense. The A7 BiTDi is 316 BHP and 479 NM. I don't know which models you think don't have nav?!

[@HRINACAR]

I will take your nonsense and raise you a poppycock - The 640d has 630nm of torque - much better nav, year for year than the CLS and the wallowy slow Audi - Yes agreeably the A7 and CLS are the competitors for sure - my point was that you cannot buy a lesser 640d but you can an A7 and the same goes for a CLS. The 640d is a car that starts with a 3.0 313bhp engine and thus it sits in its own niche for that reason, it is the only type of car of its kind that starts attracting that clientelle. Had the A7 been only available in twin turbo or nothing, then the 640d would not be alone. Similarly the CLS has been down tuned and has much less torque and much less power. The 640d is a rare, hard to sell ,not in very much demand, super devaluing super cruiser and that is one reason why it sits in its own niche.

[@MKRM27]

HR in a Car My mistake. That A7 actually has 479 ft/lbs, not NM. It therefore has 650 NM. Your point of difference, in putting the BMW in a niche all of its own, appears to be that you prefer its satnav.

[@HRINACAR]

hahaha Yep.