The RLCS 2024 Breakdown - Chalked Cast #64 w/ApparentlyJack

[@wolfygames4239]

I love it when Jack is not a pr merchant

[@cscott3401]

As soon as that announcement went live, I was hoping to see this show get scheduled. Get your snacks ready folks.

[@DangerousD299]

Called the boys and said let’s try to be the 128th best team in NA 💪🏾

[@florentraffray1073]

This game is SUCH an absolute MASSIVE goldmine of an opportunity, it could be to video games what Football/Soccer is to sports. I think there just isn't anybody at Epic/Psyonix with the vision to make it so, truly their loss. The physics and play of the game, it's just perfect, and if you just give it the overall game the redesign it deserves, make the look cleaner with a little more edge and take in aesthetic and design qualities that remind one of football leagues across the world, go balistic on the training packages using all the best of the workshops but make it polished and with trophies and badges along the way, and redo some of the yawn inducing UI screens you've got yourself a global gaming phenomon the likes of which have never been seen before.

[@Evan2768]

The problem with this is that the game has too steep of a learning curve at this point. It’s very hard to get my friends to play rocket league who’ve never played before because they can’t hit the ball and get discouraged. It takes hundreds of hours to get even somewhat good at rocket league and that will always stop it from being the biggest game.

[@ventdra]

@@Evan2768 i will say encouraging your bad friends to play together and have fun WITHOUT you on the side, is a great way for them to slowly get better. Ive had 5 of my friends get into the game over the last year, and one of them is already playing in high diamond (even survives in some of my gc lobbies). You just personally gotta remember why the game was so incredible to you in the first place. its just fun.

[@matthewgd]

15:18 oh my god i am dead that was not expected holy why was that so funny

[@wherlz3052]

this is the most animated I have ever seen Jack and I need more of it

[@ShounenN]

I have no clue how these companies are consciously destroying their products lmao

[@llamaseatingchips5237]

I think it’s just a finance issue, the esport has been so good for so long now bc psyonix has been high off the free to play money, but I think we’re starting to see that dwindle off and there’s nothing they can do to stop it

[@opliko]

@@llamaseatingchips5237 they're talking about how psyonix and now epic have a gold mine of a game, but instead of using it and expanding on it they're basically just fucking up every single decision and destroying it

[@b3to653]

@@llamaseatingchips5237 that's cap

[@kevinderoo3880]

@@llamaseatingchips5237 If you own multiple games that each have 50M+ online players at all times and manage to fuck up every decision for all of those games... you suck as a company. There isn't a single counterargument to that.

[@George-li1yv]

15:59 Johnny if its so easy for them to identify the boosters.... WHY TF AREN'T THEY BEING BANNED?!?!??!!

[@Schwams-1337]

Spicy Jack is fucking hilarious.

[@loreabidingcitizen9384]

If big orgs get knocked out and there are always different players making the late stages it will bad bad for viewership, you will never get the opportunity to support a team because you will have no idea if they are going to make it. There will be different names all the time and it will be impossible to follow.

[@iamnotjcook]

There was never any reason to support a big org anyways because of how often the rosters changed

[@johnbishop7572]

It’s a series of mistakes over the years that have prevented them from making more money. Limiting the crowds during wildcard and prelims, not capitalizing on team merch, less sponsored events…

[@moshiadnfusionfallfa]

I'm sold on the idea of streaming the different regions throughout the whole day on the main cast.

[@aidenguo5580]

Opportunity for Jeffrey Epstein, SquiglyOctopus, and Scribblez to team up as "Fun Times at Sea"

[@ac.creations]

There's gotta be a better 3rd. I've played a guy named "You Sold Me Queer Giraffes"

[@aidenguo5580]

@@ac.creations I was mostly going for the fact that Scribblez is famously 14 years old lol

[@ac.creations]

@aidenguo5580 probably a lil old for them

[@CosmosArchipelago]

lol@@aidenguo5580

[@FECRWN]

For me a downgrade compared to last season was always going to happen so it doesnt come as a suprise, but a lot of thing are not as bad as they sound, we already knew we would get 2 splits, na and eu getting -1 spot sucks but its understandable since mena and ssa deserved to have +1, the pricepool being down is completely fine since we less events (on average this season has a higher pricepool). For me the thing they really fucked up is everyone is playing at the same weekend, no brakes and top teams having to go through the qualifier’s

[@johnbishop7572]

now all but 8 na/eu orgs will have an 8 month offseason. that's insane if you want to retain orgs. Think about how many orgs left or were close to leaving with this last offseason and it was 5 months

[@FECRWN]

Thats also a really bad thing i didnt include, lets hope they made room for dreamhacks and stuff. I think a lot of orgs will leave because no one is paying someone 8 months while they do nothing and because every team plays in open quals there is no certainty that ur team gets on the main stage

[@Agrinu99]

Exactly, I think most people just look at the decrease in total prize pool and stuff of that nature and don't even look at the situation itself, obviously the prize pool is going to be lower due to the economic state of e-sports and there's literally 1 less split. I continuously hear pros saying how long they take to pay, and some haven't even got paid from last season, if theres lack of money, you gotta cut, it's just the nature of business, if it was blast, they did what they could with what they got. It wasn't perfect, full open quals for example, but still, most are overreacting to some extent like Jack said.

[@bawlzack7877]

My thoughts exactly

[@ts_30]

G2 about to win the first regional and then go out in 128th to nutsack gaming

[@Evan2768]

Johnny's entire defense throughout this episode consists of "they can", "they could", "they might", "probably". It would be nice if he could address what was contained in the announcement rather than using his hypotheticals as a defense. Really strong shill energy.

[@opliko]

Jack went full Sizz mode

[@ethanhocker8367]

Jack has me dying 😭😭🤣

[@koushikreddy9363]

From hitting record viewership in Worlds and being talked about as a tier 1 eSports to this. What a downfall.

[@SuperSirianRigel]

The team that finishes 128th gets paid $50. "Well if you split it evenly you can eat at Taco Bell!" lol.

[@anaklusmos2791]

I personally don't mind the longer off season. My biggest issue was that despite all these events announced to happen, RL Esports did zero promotion for any of it. I barely watched any of the off season events because I couldn't keep track of it since they weren't there to promote it. Like all it took was for their twitter account to retweet stuff from the other organizers but the account went completely silent.

[@JATDPLUS]

They have all of the Fortnite tournaments fully open because there are so many levels of qualifiers and winning in Fortnite is much more consistent where someone can’t just peak on you ruining your tournament. They also have it where you have a set amount of time to play games and get points to advance so even if you die early like 5 times you can still make it to the next round if you are a pro

[@icedglizzy]

Haven’t started watching and I know Jack is about to spit facts.

[@whorus]

How can you have a discussion around the new RLCS format with people in it they are actually getting paid for casting the RLCS ? How is that debate going to be honest in any way ? These questions don't even need an answer when you see how the casters try to stay as moderate as possible.

[@hijonk9510]

johnnyboi_i threw the mask away and starting chugging the copium directly

[@loganpeters1914]

The McDonalds logo on CJs hat is S-tier meming

[@oibara2]

jack is a good advocate for players. i could see him heading a players' union like the PFA.

[@red2432]

Johnny has a rock for a brain

[@UncleSTN]

this is by far the best episode yet holy

[@15kalas15]

jack the voice of reason again

[@raptoranrob]

johhny is epics puppet

[@liamTK]

as much as the age of players being lowered is fairly insane and not what anyone wanted. I think a huge thing that literally everyone has missed with it is that its the same age policy epic already had in place for FNCS. if there was merger of esports departments at epic/psyonix it makes sense that they all use the same rules to avoid any planning issues or confusion when implementing things The day open quals is no different to RMR quals or the prior Day one opens. likely short bo3 where they run through the bracket fairly quick

[@moayad_zh]

seeing how jack was the last episode he was in I expected another meltdown and I was not disappointed 😂 but he really does represent how a lot of the community feel, the frustration that he has we all have as well

[@beakmaster69]

The first 20 minutes so far have been a fever dream lol

[@hi_fox]

How the fuck is it a good idea to have every region on the same day? You will have clashes! How does johnny not understand this

[@sfpencil]

Absolute Jack W this ep

[@Schummler666]

Jack GOAT speaking the truth to powers

[@chadillac9278]

Honestly having pro players going up against randoms I think the level of play will drop because they will have to adapt to the awkward play style of lower ranked players. Thoughts?

[@Bollard]

They didn't even give wildcard a crowd last year tbf.

[@JamesWillmore-bz2sm]

Johnny is a tool. Defending them bc they put money in his pocket instead of standing up for the players who dedicate their life’s to rl

[@15kalas15]

Imagine having the greatest storylines and gameplay of all time last season and leveraging it into a 40% downsize and no marketing to grow the game, no actual updates, nothing.

[@jakemakin8747]

I hope epic games will get it into their thick heads.... I AM NEVER DOWNLOADING FORTNITE.... Thanks for coming to my TED talk

[@sneezingmango]

Agreed brother, I swore to myself I would never install that game back in like 2017 when it was practically still a meme and ninja was calling people little shits 🤣

[@UndeadUnluck]

Jack is such a W this is content.

[@cheesysnailburgers5885]

Bruh jack worried about being peaked on by some 2k mmr 2s players. You gotta always beat the teams in front of you. Doesn’t matter the opponent, be held accountable for your teams skill and back the top pro teams to win otherwise they aren’t the top pro teams anymore

[@Snowman0h4]

AppJack was HEATED

[@ChristobalStacks]

watching back, episode is so hard to watch with johnny defending epic and psyonix through sheer assumption of their competence. glad jack was there to throw away the pr and say what everyone is thinking

[@MitsuoRLCoach]

Squiggly Octopus next World Champs, I'm placing my bets

[@evanmcgregor]

RLCS is truly becoming chalked

[@ethanluke5130]

Everyone before season starts: These changes suck bro RLCS dead Random player peaks on Vitality: Yo this is sick man let's goooo😂

[@GregTurismo]

Jack is so furious I’m afraid

[@Lonzology]

Johnny has too much faith in Epic and Psyonix man

[@SmeagolTheGreat]

All on the same weekend is a horrible desicion, at least viewer wise. I always liked to watch as much as possible live. Granted, I don't always have the time, with job and girlfriend, but I do try to be on at the relevant time for the more interesting games. EU mostly, but also NA. Now, if they're all on the same day, no way I watch that many hours on one weekend, my brain's gonna be mush after a while. I don't think I'm the only one seeing it like this..

[@matsvoorbergen5454]

so there is basically no difference between the majors and worlds now with mena extra spot and SSA lol

[@UnholyOomlie]

Could this be a transition season in prep for a new rocket league to release using unreal 5 within the next year or two?

[@kalvin9266]

no

[@andyolsen4517]

ue5 is never coming 😂

[@DJprofessorK]

Isn’t this just like the FA cup in England though? It happens when a 2 league teams beat Primeir league teams and it’s huge for them. Honestly the Europeans should be use to this kind of thing in football

[@majesticmo5048]

Well yes, that's football which operates through a well structured fixed league. Comparing esports formats to real sports just doesn't work. Instead you should compare this rlcs format to the other big esports, and see that it fails drastically in comparison. No security for top teams and every region playing on the same day is a mess

[@Mo-mw4zg]

extremely common massive jack W

[@SamMaki]

Jack talking about people being boosted, but WHO is boosting them? Why don't they put these boosters on blast. I don't get it.

[@randomportugal3713]

They mean wintrading

[@prodcio]

jack jeffrey epstein 😭😭😭

[@iamnotjcook]

Players complaining about losing prize pool money and pay but they generate no money for teams or Psyonix 🤔 There's plenty of players that could have seven figure bank accounts if they were smart with financials. They spend 100+ hours a week at their PCs, they might as well learn some investing with their high salaries and fact that most of pro RL lives with their parents

[@MitsuoRLCoach]

The World Series of Poker is open and exciting bc you rarely ever see the previous winner win another one back to back, but Poker has an element of RNG whereas RLCS is orgs and teams working their ass of to grind to be the best players in the world. This is doesn't seem as "exciting" as it sounds. There are repercussions that have too much "variance", as Jack alluded to, that make the competition super weak and not fun. I've seen a few pros who are thinking of retiring bc of this poor format. There's gotta be another way to do this so the pro's who are great get the benefits of seeding and/or placements. Open tourney format boils down to too variance and not enough consistency.

[@johnbishop7572]

If you did all top 4s back to back to back without breaks you're talking a 21 hour stream. I guess it's possible but those are some LONG days

[@15kalas15]

yep and people are going to not watch the whole stream which means ppl that might have watched minor regions on off weekends are just going to break when those teams are playing

[@verybored2416]

Honestly as a NA fan, Na should have 4, EU 5, MENA 2 and OCE 1, hate to be that guy but OCE don’t deserve 2 spots, they’re debatably worse than APAC imo

[@verybored2416]

Second determining seeding by rank is kinda crazy, youre just gonna end up with players paypaling each other for free mmr points and teams are gonna stream snipe every top team, lowering their chance to play them, watch KC will play Vitality more in a single day than the 16th - 10th team will play them in the whole qualifying period, and why wouldn’t they?

[@verybored2416]

It really feels like RLCS peaked last season and it’s all downhill from here

[@Mrzettie]

Another temper tantrum from Jack. Great

[@Schummler666]

Rizzo shilling hard

[@james5780]

It’s a sad time when our favourite game is slowly dieing like this. Epic ain’t so epic after all, more like a Epic fail. Please god save rocket league or send someone who can. Amen 🙏

[@ac8704]

I think that esports is in some major growing pains right now, trying to figure out how to make it financially viable. Jack is understandably upset, but overreacting. Why would an ORG not drop their team that doesn't perform? It's not like players are entitled to continue getting paid because they played ok 6 months ago.

[@ethanheadrick7027]

❤

[@nebelninja957]

Sup

[@ethanheadrick7027]

Sup

[@pl3xus]

You guys need to chill on the contrarian stuff. When you constantly disagree with each other for the sake of it or to troll, it gets exhausting to watch. Which is a shame b/c outside of that I really enjoy the content.

[@kalvin9266]

this is way better than listening to tbates

[@SuperSirianRigel]

Only 4 NA teams at majors and worlds? That's stupid. Should be 6 at the minimum, 8 teams preferably. NA teams (and EU teams some as well) carry the most interest for fans and other players. The NA and EU markets are where the interest is greatest and player counts are highest. So they need more focus. They needed to keep majors and worlds at like 22 teams. So NA could have 8 teams. EU could have 6 teams. And the rest could be like in the announcement. But it's whatever I guess. They aren't going to change it now. No matter how stupid it is. lol.

[@SuperSirianRigel]

This is Epic Games slowly killing off Rocket League. They don't like that Rocket League is it's own separate thing and it's own separate game that you don't have to log in to Fortnite to play. They want EVERYTHING to be inside Fortnite like Fortnite is somehow it's own gaming platform... And Rocket League isn't right now so they are hoping it just dies one day. That's why they took away trading. That's why they made these changes to RLCS. And I'll be surprised if they don't somehow make Rocket League playable inside Fortnite. And then use that as an excuse to destroy the old Rocket League servers and hard reset everyone or something else crazy. Rocket League isn't Their creation. So they don't care about it. It's like a step-child they never wanted.

[@ToothpasteJuice]

Yawn. Rocket league is dead. NEXT!

[@nodidog]

Jack is always negative about everything, so no surprise here

[@majesticmo5048]

and he's completely right here. All the pros, fans and even orgs despise the changes.

[@sneezingmango]

Not all fans, there's a lot of up and coming teams in the league that see this as a good thing because it gives more teams a chance to actually make money and gives them a chance to make it into the pro league. As CJ said it hurts the teams at the top sure but you could also say the same about the Old format hurting up and coming teams in the Esport

[@sneezingmango]

@@majesticmo5048 also jack crying about pros competing against lower ranked teams who peak but honestly if your one of the best teams in the league just do what your paid to do and Outperform the competition

[@nodidog]

@@majesticmo5048 Nonsense - he's right about some things, and wrong about others. NPC fans just copy paste their opinions from people they look up to, and Jack has a lot of fans. He complains about everything, and offers no useful or constructive criticism. I hadn't heard his opinion before this started, but I already knew he'd be negative about everything.

[@majesticmo5048]

@nodidog please, tell me one good thing about this awful format. All the regions play on the same day, We lost the wildcard NA and EU lost a spot Top teams have no security and will have to go through a 128 team bracket every week Format is so cutthroat that one bad event throws away your entire chance of getting to the major The format is so dumb that top teams could face other top teams early and knock them out due to an unfortunate bracket. It doesn't take eyes to see how this format is a gigantic downgrade from before

[@jahnj2523]

Johnny has a rock for a brain

[@sw00n85]

How many accounts do u have LOLOL