The Royal Mistress Who Became Portugal's Corpse Queen | Inês de Castro

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@EmilyGloeggler7984
@EmilyGloeggler7984 7 ай бұрын
I feel bad for both Constanza and her children as well as Ines and her children. What a mess!
@Sam-lb8xs
@Sam-lb8xs 8 ай бұрын
While Pedro and Inês really do have quite a love story and I sympathize with the tragic fate of Inês, it's difficult to reconcile that with the fact that their romance was adultery; Pedro was cheating on his wife with her lady-in-waiting, who happened to be her kinswoman and childhood friend. Constanza herself had a pretty rotten deal before she married Pedro; she was married off as a child to Castilian royalty, who then annulled the marriage to marry his own concubine and didn't even have the decency to let Constanza go home. Poor Constanza was cursed with two unhappy marriages-!!! That Pedro does not seem to have been there for Constanza when she died says a lot.
@elenagaroti
@elenagaroti 5 ай бұрын
Pedro had multiple mistresses but Ines and her family were corrupt. The king wouldn’t have ended her if she’s just a mistress. She was very ambitious and her kids as well. They tried usurping the throne from Constanza’s son.
@Sam-lb8xs
@Sam-lb8xs 5 ай бұрын
@@elenagaroti I can see how that would work! Pedro himself seems a bit reckless, anyway.
@Laramaria2
@Laramaria2 Жыл бұрын
To me, this story always seemed like someone asked Tim Burton to write a romance 😅 She inspired a saying in Brazil, "agora Inês é morta"(now Ines is dead), meaning it's too late to do something about a situation. Great video ❤
@HistorysForgottenPeople
@HistorysForgottenPeople Жыл бұрын
Haha, that's such a good description for the story! 😅 And I didn't know about the saying in Brazil, that's so interesting! I'm glad you enjoyed the video. 😊
@lilacgirl-z8w
@lilacgirl-z8w Жыл бұрын
Pedro and Ines lived on through a play just like Richard iii.
@elenagaroti
@elenagaroti 5 ай бұрын
Lmao? Pedro had multiple lovers and affair kids. Ines was murdered because her and her family were very corrupt and were trying to use the power of the monarchy for their gain. The king wouldn’t just end someone because she’s a mistress
@sofiabarreira1118
@sofiabarreira1118 4 ай бұрын
This saying is from The Lusíadas.
@lfgifu296
@lfgifu296 Жыл бұрын
Oooooh boy you can imagine my happiness with a Portuguese AND Medieval story! I remember being obcessed with the tragedy of Pedro and Inês since I was 8 or so, though my views on it have changed somewhat, as I feel more and more for Constança. Nevertheless, Inês' fate was tragic, and a great stain on Afonso IV's reputation (though one of the few, as he was actually not a bad king, ya know, if we remove the murder of a woman suposedly in front of her kids💀) I also remember it being said Constança died of a broken heart- while not true, a nice addition to the story... Also, the music you have adorned this video with is beautiful- it's unexplainable istg it's sadness mixed with happiness and melancholy.
@DarthDread-oh2ne
@DarthDread-oh2ne Жыл бұрын
Hello friend, I hope you was able to find that Chinese documentary I told you about.
@lfgifu296
@lfgifu296 Жыл бұрын
@@DarthDread-oh2ne I have! I have just not had time to watch it, yet... I hope it at least has english subtitles, though :)
@DarthDread-oh2ne
@DarthDread-oh2ne Жыл бұрын
​@@lfgifu296 I am sorry for bothering you much.
@lfgifu296
@lfgifu296 Жыл бұрын
@@DarthDread-oh2ne no, not at all! Thanks for the recomendations :)
@HistorysForgottenPeople
@HistorysForgottenPeople Жыл бұрын
Poor Constança - I felt for her, too. It must have been a double blow, as not only was her new husband not interested in her, but she lost a companion as well. Well, I'm assuming that, I don't think she and Inês would have remained friends afterwards! And you're right about Afonso IV as well. It's so weird that he was actually - as you say - a fairly reasonable and okay monarch, except for the very brutal murder of his son's lover. ☹ And thank you about the music! I decided to try and find something new for these videos, so it's good to know it matches up. 😊
@marcomanino9172
@marcomanino9172 Жыл бұрын
Hollywood should make a film from this incredible story.
@HistorysForgottenPeople
@HistorysForgottenPeople Жыл бұрын
They really should - the Portuguese one is pretty good!
@ardenalexa94
@ardenalexa94 Жыл бұрын
Idk, some they do a good job on, others they don’t stick to the story at all and overdramatize it
@altinaykor364
@altinaykor364 Жыл бұрын
with the politics modern Hollywood has in casting and telling story in pretty political bias way, I actually would rather see their filthy hands away from such an incredible historical stories
@michelemarmelo3699
@michelemarmelo3699 8 ай бұрын
they have made many my favorite is the 2018 adaptation with diogo amaral i think thats hi name as pedro
@jazminmuro9692
@jazminmuro9692 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I heard of her sad tale. She was the prince truly beloved lady. But because his father the king may have killed her and his son rebel and took the crown. He even bring back her corpse and crown her queen. In his grief, he made all of his Lord's and advisor to kiss her dead hand to plead their oaths.
@nacht98
@nacht98 6 ай бұрын
what a movie this would make....wow
@beth7935
@beth7935 Жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic story, thanks for covering it!
@HistorysForgottenPeople
@HistorysForgottenPeople Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I'm pleased you enjoyed it! 😊
@lfgifu296
@lfgifu296 Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, Fernando was a bad king😭 Indeed, had it not been for João de Avis (and the resilience of Lisbon's inhabitants and the famous "Padeira de Aljubarota"), Portugal might no longer be...
@cg8397
@cg8397 Жыл бұрын
Fernando didn't learn from his father's mistakes, he took up with a married woman named Leonor Teles and all kinds of bad decisions followed.
@lfgifu296
@lfgifu296 Жыл бұрын
@@cg8397 yeah, Fernando lacked his father's strength and had his lusty libido, so a match made south of Heaven
@migueldeuna3261
@migueldeuna3261 5 ай бұрын
It might not be like that, that's the "romantic official narrative"? Fernando was a good king regarding inner politics, maybe a disaster in Castillian relations. João de Aviz was not the only political option to Portugal. In fact it may not have been the best. Apart from Aviz and the pro-Castilian party during the Interregnum there was a 3rd one, the nationalistic-legitimistic. Inês sons. That party would probably make an independent Portugal with sovereignty over Galiza. We will never know
@MichelleBruce-lo4oc
@MichelleBruce-lo4oc Жыл бұрын
Hi, awesome live history video I enjoyed it. How are you doing? I'm doing well and so is my cat Benjamin. He's big and happy. All your history videos are always enjoyable and wonderful. Sometime in the future, could you do a video on King Arthur. Have a great day see you next video 😀
@HistorysForgottenPeople
@HistorysForgottenPeople Жыл бұрын
Hi Michelle, glad you enjoyed the video, and you and Benjamin are doing well! 😊 I love the legends around King Arthur, I might think about how to do one on him in the future, or possibly on another channel I'm planning.
@catlady4139
@catlady4139 Жыл бұрын
Hello. Thank you for this video, I never heard someone before document this story as well as you did. Love your channel, I have been a fan for a long while. Hugs from Portugal 🇵🇹
@HistorysForgottenPeople
@HistorysForgottenPeople Жыл бұрын
Obrigado, isso é muito gentil! I'm glad you enjoyed it. 😊
@lfgifu296
@lfgifu296 Жыл бұрын
@@HistorysForgottenPeople oh I didn't notice you talking some portuguese! Just a little correction, when one is female, one says "obrigada", since the "a" makes a name feminine, while the "o" makes it masculine- because why not complicate the language further? :)
@ronhuhn7562
@ronhuhn7562 8 ай бұрын
thank you...nothing more to say...thank you again...ron
@sweethistortea
@sweethistortea Жыл бұрын
I had a book that talked about her and Pedro called Royal Love Stories. At least in death, Pedro and Ines can be together forever/
@HistorysForgottenPeople
@HistorysForgottenPeople Жыл бұрын
I love that way of looking at it! As long as hopefully her ghost isn't really floating around the Quinta das Lágrimas (which I personally don't think she is, thank goodness).
@kendraechols8679
@kendraechols8679 2 ай бұрын
i just feel really bad for constanza because that was her close friend and I can only imagine how humiliating that was for her as a mother and wife. While I feel bad for constanza I also think the alfonso thought he was doing what was best for his people and from what I gathered he was a pretty good king all things considered. I just hate how the children on both sides suffered because while the children with his first wife are second fiddle to the children he had with Ines which causes massive amounts of jealousy and resentment between the children. I wonder if constanza hated ines in some form or at least held some resentment I mean getting publicly humiliated consistently by your close and friend and husband has got to be so hurtful and painful. I know a lot of these marriages are arranged but that still doesn't negate the hurt the affairs cause to the children and spouses involved. Honestly pedro seemed like a shitty father to the children he had with constanza and for that I think he deserves all the blame for how they turned out but I respect the love he had for ines I just wish it didn't come at the expense of everyone else around them including ines losing her life in such a brutal and hateful fashion.
@makinapacal
@makinapacal 10 ай бұрын
Although the story of the coronation of a corpse has Queen of Portugal is false. It is known that Pedro did in fact proclaim the dead Ines has Queen of Portugal. I am surprised that since Alfonso died so soon after Pedro and he allegedly reconciled and considering the sheer rage Pedro had concerning the murder of Ines that it appears no one has accused Pedro of murdering his father.
@Nicholas-mi2vt
@Nicholas-mi2vt 4 ай бұрын
Alfonso was 66 at the time of his death extremely old
@KangElla1666
@KangElla1666 3 ай бұрын
I never understood the point of most arranged marriages in royalty. In the case of England, no matter who they were allied with by marriage they almost always went to war anyway. Scotland, France, Spain...the marriage allience meant nothing in most cases.
@lfgifu296
@lfgifu296 Жыл бұрын
This episode chimes nicely with today's question! Which is, who would your 6 guests for an "Historical Figures Dinner" be? I say it chimes because my answer includes Pedro :) For me, it'd go: Pedro I of Portugal, known both as The Just and The Cruel, so, interesting, also there are many stories regarding him which make him, in my eyes, a nice drinking pal lol Leonardo da Vinci, a most brilliant mind Thomas Moore, intelligent, kind, and bearer of a sad fate Emma of Normandy, a formidable woman Aelfthryth of Devon, soooo many questions I want to ask her, also wanna see how beautiful she was Empress Maud, though perhaps too spikey and maybe a bit abrasive, nevertheless admirable and fascinating :)
@HistorysForgottenPeople
@HistorysForgottenPeople Жыл бұрын
Ooooh.....love this one. Okay, I'm going for - Empress Matilda/Maud. She's my absolute heroine, and I'd love to pick her brain. Elizabeth I. Cliche, I know, but it would be amazing to meet her in person. I could also get her drunk on wine and see if she would spill about really having any illegitimate children. Richard Trevithick. This one's for my little boy as he's obsessed with trains, and Trevithick was the inventor of the world's first moving steam locomotive, although he became largely forgotten after Stephenson's success with the Rocket. Hatshepsut. I'll probably need a translator, but let's pretend! I'd love to find out what her motivation was for going against the norm at the time she became Pharaoh. I don't know their name, but whichever person in ancient history first came up with writing! I'd love to know about the process of that, because it really was the catalyst for so much of civilisation across the world. And Aelfthryth of Devon! Just generally a fascinating person, and I can try and find out what really happened to her stepson....
@lfgifu296
@lfgifu296 Жыл бұрын
@@HistorysForgottenPeople Ooooh solid choices! Also seeing Elizabeth I drunk sounds cursed😭😭 And choosing one for your son's obcession is so cute :))
@RavenIdril2966
@RavenIdril2966 11 ай бұрын
Did pedro ever had her portrait done?
@lfgifu296
@lfgifu296 11 ай бұрын
@@RavenIdril2966 This was the mid XIV century, so I suspect not. If anything, we’d have a rough depiction of her which wouldn’t say that much about her appearance (I love Medieval illuminations, but they’re not very precise), but I don’t think we have that either- I’m not sure, but I don’t even think we have surviving contemporary depictions of Pedro.
@lfgifu296
@lfgifu296 Жыл бұрын
Also, in Art History, we study Pedro amd Inês' tomb as a Gothic piece of art!
@HistorysForgottenPeople
@HistorysForgottenPeople Жыл бұрын
I'm not surprised, it's stunning! Most tombs of that period are ornate, but not that much (including the other tombs that share the mausoleum). Knowing the story behind it, you can really feel how much Pedro was grieving when you look at the carvings and care taken on the tombs.
@lfgifu296
@lfgifu296 Жыл бұрын
@@HistorysForgottenPeople oh yeah Pedro took it two steps further :) And as much as I dislike him and feel for Constança, the tomb is really touching (and mesmerizes me each time I visit)
@georgiefacchinni3429
@georgiefacchinni3429 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thank you muchly. ☮️💜☯️
@HistorysForgottenPeople
@HistorysForgottenPeople Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it! 😊
@animallover6645
@animallover6645 Жыл бұрын
I really do not have much sympathy for her death after all she was a mistress, but very shocked to say the least on what happened. What a terrible father, poor Pedro and Inez.
@RavenIdril2966
@RavenIdril2966 Жыл бұрын
I wonder what kind of stepmother Ines was?
@AlanaMason-c3x
@AlanaMason-c3x 5 ай бұрын
Her life has less value since she was a mistress?
@mimiity9585
@mimiity9585 4 ай бұрын
@animallover6645 No sympathy for her death because she’s a mistress??!! She was a mother, daughter and lover who was very much in love with the father of her children. He loved her very much as well. Need I remind you that fixed marriages are not always happy ones?? It’s mainly a political move to gain power. Seems you may care about animals better.
@MsLacieable
@MsLacieable 4 ай бұрын
Arranged marriages are crap meh if Pedro had a choice he would never marry Constanza and marry Ines. He seems loyal to her.
@averageabnormalboredhuman4431
@averageabnormalboredhuman4431 4 ай бұрын
​@@MsLacieabledidn't he agree to the arranged marriage and found constança 'suitable'? it was only after she arrived with her lady-in-waiting that he fell for ines. Poor constança had to suffer a bad marriage as a literal child and then with a cheating husband. You can't mask the misery of another woman with the tradegy of two lovers, who were, in truth, adulterers.
@funtimefoxy6136
@funtimefoxy6136 10 ай бұрын
Can I ask you which Hanover monarch is your favorite in terms of ranking? Which was the most successful in your opinion and the one whose reign had the best legacy? 1. George I 2. George II 3. George III 4. George IV 5. William IV 6. Victoria
@HistorysForgottenPeople
@HistorysForgottenPeople 10 ай бұрын
Oooh, this is a tough one. Okay, from favourite to least favourite; 1. George III 2. William IV 3. George II 4. Victoria 5. George IV 6. George I Although in all honesty, you could group the last three joint bottom for me, haha! So the answer to the second part of your question is totally different from my favourites. While George III was the nicest of the bunch, in my humble opinion, and he did well as king, his later mental illness meant it just wasn't possible for him to have a decent legacy. And William IV wasn't king for long enough, although again, seems like a nice guy. Victoria has to be the one with the greatest legacy. Her reign saw huge changes, political and social reform, the building of an empire (which I don't agree with, but nevertheless is one of the barometers of how someone performs as monarch at that time), and Britain became the wealthiest country in the world at one point, the industrial powerhouse of the entire globe. However, I think she as a person was horrible. She was a toxic mother to her children, and despite being the first female monarch for decades, she believed women shouldn't fight for equal rights and despised feminists and suffragettes. It's difficult to even gauge how much influence she really had in matters, since Parliament by that point was far more powerful. But she is probably the monarch with the most enduring legacy, partly because she lived through so much change (some positive, some not), and the propaganda surrounding her and her family was very effective, and was the forerunner for the royal family's propaganda that would follow to this day.
@t.r.luxx1311
@t.r.luxx1311 Жыл бұрын
Have you made a video about Lucretia Borgia?
@HistorysForgottenPeople
@HistorysForgottenPeople Жыл бұрын
Not yet, but I have the Borgias waiting on my list! I've wanted to cover them for a while, so they're definitely coming next year.
@timelordvictorious
@timelordvictorious Жыл бұрын
what a sad tragic story reminds of the mad Queen Juan of spain and like this story lot of myths added to it
@displacerkatsidhe
@displacerkatsidhe Жыл бұрын
And through their daughter, the royal families of Europe carry their blood and specifically their great grand daughter brought it right back into Portugal!
@HistorysForgottenPeople
@HistorysForgottenPeople Жыл бұрын
That's absolutely right! I thought it was a good sort of revenge on Afonso, that Pedro and Ines are the ancestors to the Portuguese royal family (and many others, as you point out)!
@nr3858
@nr3858 7 ай бұрын
​@@HistorysForgottenPeople Was Afonso really bad though? Seems to me that he was looking after the betterment of his country and people while his son could not care less
@oana-mariauliu5828
@oana-mariauliu5828 Жыл бұрын
I became distracted when I heard "Aldonza Lorenzo". I mean... I knew Dulcinea del Toboso was actually called Aldonza Lorenzo. I had no idea there had been a real person of that name.
@DonTitoNYC
@DonTitoNYC 9 ай бұрын
It was spelled in Portuguese, Aldonça Lourenço.
@Paul-r3v
@Paul-r3v 5 ай бұрын
Galicia and Minho are sweet hearts that the fathers dont allow them to marry!
@AlanaMason-c3x
@AlanaMason-c3x 5 ай бұрын
Any other Portuguese royal history recommendations?
@gaylesuemedley-barton4217
@gaylesuemedley-barton4217 Жыл бұрын
It would make a fabulous political romance movie!
@HistorysForgottenPeople
@HistorysForgottenPeople Жыл бұрын
It would be amazing! There is a film already, but in Portuguese - I do think it would be great as a TV series, as well.
@altinaykor364
@altinaykor364 Жыл бұрын
Not exactly or completely similar story, but Inês for me seems like Katherine Swynford of Portugal and since both women happen to born and live in the same century, makes this believe stronger for me! although I'm not gonna ignore that Inês' ending was tragic and a lot more weird in afterlife. but parallels are undeniable to me
@HistorysForgottenPeople
@HistorysForgottenPeople Жыл бұрын
You're right, there's definitely some similarities between the two women, except that Katherine had a much happier ending! I wonder if it would have been the same if John of Gaunt was heir apparent, though, like Pedro was? 🤔
@beth7935
@beth7935 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking of her as well.
@lfgifu296
@lfgifu296 Жыл бұрын
@@HistorysForgottenPeople well... Edward III allowed his heir apparent to wed Joan of Kent- ok he didn't allow it, but he accepted it once it became known lol-. The situations were different though, Joan's family connections were nowhere as controversial to the English as Inês' were to the Portuguese
@rebeccaorman1823
@rebeccaorman1823 Жыл бұрын
Just a slight correction. Katherine Stanford was from England not Portugal.
@altinaykor364
@altinaykor364 Жыл бұрын
@@rebeccaorman1823 as if I said anything else! and by the way, Katherine Swynford
@dalestaley5637
@dalestaley5637 Жыл бұрын
Horrific
@Paul-r3v
@Paul-r3v 4 ай бұрын
I heard about a king who also fell in love for his queen's lady in waiting, so he built a religion where he was the pope substitute and he chopped off the heads of any new queen he was tired. But thats a story told too many times on tvs around the world...
@zazabat
@zazabat 3 ай бұрын
I'm descendent of this love story
@monicacall7532
@monicacall7532 Жыл бұрын
Think of all of the misery that arranged marriages, especially royal and aristocratic ones, have caused over the centuries! Putting money and family bloodlines above the happiness of marriage partners is so wrong! The partners and any children who are born to them are almost always doomed to terrible unhappiness throughout their lives especially when divorce is not an option. Perhaps Fernando would’ve been a better king if he hadn’t had to deal with the drama and trauma of having to deal with a loveless marriage that he couldn’t get out of except by the death of his queen. I’m not excusing his atrocious and bloodthirsty behavior with the matter of tearing out the hearts of his enemies. That’s just over the top evil! However, I CAN imagine that the constant stress over his relationship with Ines, his wife and the feud between him and his father could very well have tipped him over the edge into insanity or some type of personality disorder. What do you think?
@lyndamcmullen5506
@lyndamcmullen5506 Жыл бұрын
❤❤❤
@josebarrocas8570
@josebarrocas8570 7 ай бұрын
Some Portuguese Historians says that it really Happened the Corpse Queen.
@SSRT_JubyDuby8742
@SSRT_JubyDuby8742 Жыл бұрын
Like deployed 👍
@HistorysForgottenPeople
@HistorysForgottenPeople Жыл бұрын
Thank you! 😊
@hunniboop1
@hunniboop1 9 ай бұрын
Is this the inspo for blood 🩸 and cheese? 🧀
@HistorysForgottenPeople
@HistorysForgottenPeople 9 ай бұрын
It's possible! GRRM seems to use a lot of interesting history as inspiration.
@MatildeFerrer-d9d
@MatildeFerrer-d9d 9 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😂amen
@lisavaz8667
@lisavaz8667 6 ай бұрын
These are my grandparents- all 4 of my blood lines go to them. They are my 17th, 18th, 18th, 16th grandparents (depending on which bloodline you look at. My family lineage is very very very interesting. You are off regarding Joao (john) and the throne. Fernando and Joao married sisters. Joao was going to take over the throne however his sister in law did not want to lose her status from being queen consort so she told my grandfather (he was also the one who was in Ines arms when she was killed) that my grandmother her sister was cheating on him. He killed her and due to that he was not able to take over the throne. The truth and what his shared are always different.
@lisavaz8667
@lisavaz8667 6 ай бұрын
Joao= John.....
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