The RTX 4090 Problem - ROG Zephyrus M16 (2023) Review

The ROG Zephyrus M16 is typically one of the best gaming laptops if you care about thin and light gaming performance. It was even better than the Blade 16. But now with an RTX 4090 laptop GPU affecting the ROG M16 price, things start to get a little less interesting and much more expensive.
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Zephyrus M16 2023 = More of the Same?
0:17 - NEBULA HDR Display Explained!
2:30 - ROG M16 Pricing & Specs
3:28 - TOP NOTCH Build Quality
4:17 - Sponsor Spot
4:51 - The 0.1” Difference
5:17 - Keyboard, Trackpad and Speaker
6:10 - Less Ports but Better Webcam!
7:33 - Upgrading the ROG M16 is TOO HARD
8:15 - Battery Life
9:25 - CPU Power, Frequencies & Temperatures
10:15 - GPU Power, Frequencies &Temperatures
11:25 - Real-World Benchmarks
12:39 - 1080p Gaming Results
13:15 - 1440p Gaming Results
13:51 - 4K Gaming Results
14:28 - RTX 4090 Price Problems
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[@ps3guy22]

The "M" monicker for mobile GPUs needs to come back. There is so much confusion about these parts from people who don't follow up on the technical specs of these products. There are still people that I've heard irl who believe that the mobile 4090 part is the same as the desktop part🤦‍♂ This is exactly what Nvidia's marketing division wants.

[@siyzerix]

Even the ''m'' moniker wont save it. The 980m was 30% slower than the desktop 980. The 4090 mobile is 50% slower. Nah, we need these things to be named 1 tier down. Like its meant to be. The 4090 needs to be a 4080, 4080 a 4070, etc. Oh wait. People will realize that nvidia's selling them a 4070 for $2500+. And the nvidoa can put desktop gpus in laptops, but wont charge you reasonable prices. Hell they even lowered the max tdp from 200w during turing to now 150w. Dynamic boost means jack shit.

[@cemsengul16]

I propose they name the mobile part with the desktop equivalent in performance. For example a 3080 max q 16 GB is on par with a desktop 3060 TI. They should name such a product a 3060 TI laptop and people would have realistic expectations and make more informed purchases. Of course Nvidia will never do that because it will hurt their bottom line.

[@ps3guy22]

@@siyzerix I agree. The RTX 4090 mobile is literally a heavily clocked down RTX 4080 . They use the same AD103 die and slightly slower memory. Had they called it a 4080, it would have been technically correct. It is just an excuse to upsell their products. Pascal and Turing had much better parity between mobile and desktop. Pascal especially.

[@siyzerix]

@@ps3guy22 You are the first guy who remembers pascal and turing's parity with desktops. Most people forget they exist for some reason. Also remember the 200w gpu's we've had during turing. You're telling me we can't have higher tdp than 200w now, with much better cooling? Just limit the cpu to 45w. Shove all power to gpu.

[@joseup_z]

@@siyzerix what’s funny is if you went one tier down, it would match the desktop variants.

[@hasancanboga9808]

I just bought this laptop and there are some misinformation in this video, that I want to clear up. 1 - you don't need to remove the rubber feet of the laptop to access inside. there are holes punched on that feet if you look closely. you just have to remove the silicon from the holes to access the screws. 2 - battery life is far better than shown here, I was able to get 8 hours of video playback on youtube on silent mode, with brightness set to %70 and audio turned down. 3 - about the wattages, I don't know why it's shown as 105W max here, but the asus armoury crate app shows 150w for the TGP. which nets you around 120w for gpu usually.

[@reign117-rrh9]

are you doing anything else to extend the battery life, my one lasts 1-2 hours on silent mode.

[@lordseptomus441]

the problem is the price; nothing else.

[@andrewpaschall8992]

Asus doesn't have the best qc or drivers either. I have a Zephyrus and I had to uninstall all their stuff to get it to not crash but now I'm missing some functionality 🤷

[@Boogie_the_cat]

The price and the fact that it's nowhere near comparable to a desktop 4090

[@Shadowwe1]

The price and the garbage battery life.

[@suyini734]

​@@andrewpaschall8992 what laptop has the best drivers?

[@andrewpaschall8992]

@@suyini734 if you mean specific model I have no idea but if you mean companies from my experience Acer, Dell, and HP are pretty consistent. Favorite is definitely Acer as I've had multiple of their machines and they last for decades. Avoid Asus and MSI usually, they seem to be the shadiest.

[@Lead_Foot]

You don't have to remove the rubber foot to get to the two screws on the bottom. You can see two removable rubber inserts covering the screws. I just got my 4080 version and pulled those inserts out no problem. You also reattached it backwards.

[@Redbluff2222]

This.

[@kalkydra]

Things like this make me doubtful of the entire review.. is not the first time they pull off something like this.

The hopes of finding a gaming laptop for $1500ish (4060/4070) are starting to dwindle. But hey, on sale, last years M16 is still a beast.

[@UsnRoberts]

Get that best buy open box excellent m16. Can beat that price, performance, and build quality.

[@jonathanr4160]

There's a couple 3070Ti laptops for sale between $1400-1500 right now in the US. Helios 300 at best buy and legion 5 pro at BH photo. Both will beat a 4060 and pretty much match a 4070 minus frame generation.

[@mcslender2965]

The g16 is less than 1500 for the 4060 version

[@SerCommander]

Actually it is possible to snatch a G15 RTX 3080 for $1500-1700, both used and new. Problem is - you gotta HUNT them. I've seen plenty of 3070 deals below $1400

@@UsnRoberts I Have been keeping eyes on Best Buy. Some crazy open-box deals with new/excellent quality. Just need the right config to pop-up.

[@jonathanr4160]

The issue is Nvidia raised the prices while adding a new GPU tier (XX90) to the laptop GPU hierarchy. In the process of doing so, they neutered the lower-tier cards as a result by making the expensive 4080/4090 be the only worthwhile upgrade. Laptops with the 4060/4070 are priced more affordably, but it doesn't mean much when they are struggling to beat a $1400 3070Ti laptop in the US.

[@pietpompies7381]

Exactly this.

[@Souneed]

You said it all 😅 unless you need the new gen cpu performance boost in productivity, you re better off buying last gen laptops

[@GoofieNewfie]

facts

[@RazielXT]

Yes they totally ruined lower tiers by shifting chips. They moved 4070 to (already very small) desktop 4060 die. It doesnt make sense to compare same prices of 3070 vs 4070, if its next gen yet almost same performance. 3070 owner must look at 4080.

[@vmafarah9473]

Don't buy 4070 and 4060 as these cards are renamed for the price premium . They are actually 4060 and 3050ti respectively. That's why 3070ti beats 4070 in games.

[@IdunDied]

Putting screws under the rubber stuff should be illegal. Makes your laptop unusable if you need to even just investigate a problem and means you need to order hyper specific replacement rubber parts that are probably not available anymore when something goes wrong :/

[@fmikowski]

He made an oopsie this time, if you freeze the video before he remove the huge rubber foot you will see two round caps for the screws, no need to remove the rubber. ;)

[@greebj]

Heat softens the adhesive, isopropyl dissolves it. You don't need to destroy them to get them off

[@alphastratus6623]

@@greebj Yea, but bringt them one later will be a big mess. It's just unnecessary work without any benefit except the producer. It's not acceptable.

[@alphastratus6623]

@@fmikowski Except these caps are on the top side of the area of the rubber, the screws are on the bottom side.

[@Lead_Foot]

​​​@@alphastratus6623 Because they reattached the entire foot upside down. I just got my 4080 version and it's the other way around. Easy to remove the rubber inserts and the screws are right beneath them. They were the first thing I noticed when I looked underneath and was able to pry them out with my fingernail.

[@GreeKing83]

I'd like to see the battery life comparison of the Zephyrus M16 with the i9 to the Zephyrus G14 with the AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS.

[@RaghavSuresh]

I have the g14 with 4060, the battery life isn't very good

[@auyguay762]

​@@RaghavSureshput it on 60hz, eco mode, lower the brightness as much as u can, that's how u get the good battery life in any gaming laptop

[@welshmouse]

FOr some reason I much prefer the look of the m16 this year, despite usually being a big razer fan. The new thicker chassis they went with really puts me off. I'm really curious how you think the 4080 version of this laptop will do, since it seems to have the same max TGP as the 4090 model. I'm hoping the 4080 versions of the rog and the razer will be closer to each other than the 4090 version, since there wont be as much of a need for the higher power and cooling. But no one seems to have benched the m16 4080 yet..

[@foolriver]

it would be great if you can test about the battery life on iGPU mode with supported laptops. It's should ve common for people to switch to igpu mode if they are at risk of running out the battery

[@SeMDesu]

7:44 Dude, you could've just removed the two rubber things on that long one, not the entire thing lmao

[@billy1296]

It is very weird to see 68 degrees with 120W RTX4090, and a lot noise... Have you tried to customize the fan speed in Armoury Crate?

[@HemantMaran]

A quick question, should you buy additional warranty and stuff for new laptops from lenovo or asus ?

[@heihachi34]

@06:11 Yes, I heavily use the rj45 Lan port to connect to different devices even though wifi adapters have become stronger it doesn't justify removal of the lan port. For example. I transfer games to ps4 or movies to other lan connected media storage devices on lan network. It helps alot if you connect to older technology. Whole lot of other systems use the lan port for accessibility.

[@fmulleady]

Brilliant reviewer. Same issue with the Legion 7i 2023 with RTX4080, It scored 18-19k in Time Spy and 115fps in the Cyberpunk 2077 benchmark with DLSS on, Ultra settings, and ray tracing on. Gosh that's better than some RTX3080ti and RTX3090 desktop configurations from last year!

[@user-lz3bj7nd3n]

I don't think you need to remove the whole rubber feet to get access to those 2 screw drivers. There are two caps in the rubber feet. But from what's shown in the video the whole rubber feet seems to be up side down so those caps are not covering the screws and you have to remove the whole rubber feet.

[@Beastw1ck]

Yes I would and do use an ethernet port on my laptop. If you have gigabit fiber it makes a huge difference even over Wi-Fi 6E. It’s essential for large file transfers on a local network as well.

[@angelogalileo]

Buy a hub station with ethernet port and put it on the usb-c …

[@NerdyCats3]

I can finally even consider these as an option since they no longer are soldering the RAM on the 15" and higher models. Thanks for reviewing.

[@comfortottawa]

I always find these comment ridiculously seeing ram means so little anyways. It’s a stacked laptop with fast ram. 4800mhz/5600..whatever Makes very little difference

[@yifeikang453]

@@comfortottawa come play some modded city skylines and you will be begging for 128GBs of ram on your laptop

[@Lead_Foot]

​@@comfortottawa Memory speed makes a huge difference in something like Spiderman w/ray tracing

[@Prismarine_Man]

Wait, y'all are buying laptops?

[@NerdyCats3]

@@comfortottawa for virtual reality hi res and fps ram is crucial

[@jonosvlog9913]

My 2022 G15's turbo mode is like having a drone flying in my room and that's why I never use turbo mode even though it might give me a few extra fps. You buy a laptop because you want to take your power house ish machine with you. For that alone, I am still very happy with my purchase.

[@saiyanzzrage]

great review, thanks! any chance you can let us know where the wallpaper shown at 3:38 is from?

[@MacA60230]

It's crazy to me how cool and quiet the Blade is. In it's maxed out mode it's QUIETER than this M16 in it's balanced mode.

[@HDRPC]

Wow

[@cameronbosch1213]

Too bad it's SSD configuration makes it unusable for my setup (I need dual drives, and it cannot take more than 2 2 TB SSDs because they are stacked on each other). And the Blade 18 forgoes the size and screen of the Blade 16...

[@johnraymond7569]

I'll stick to my Asus, it's cheaper than the blade and better quality, use headphones if you dont like the sound of a fan.

[@winstonhorn9683]

Aaaaanddddd….. price differences

[@xtradi]

Same Performance?

[@neomis0119]

got the 16" Asus Scar on order, still has mini led, 1100 nits, 240hz, 32gb ram, rtx4080.getting it custom carbon fiber wrap, mostly using it for work but wanted to have some gaming when away from home, I really don't like laptops for gaming but wanted something when away.

[@lugga413]

i think its the best choice. would definetly choose this one as well when i wanted to buy a new laptop!

[@seththarohour1775]

For the rubber feet, you do not need to pull it out entirely. There are hole for the screws.

[@333toxin]

12:39 I watched the benchmark section three times just for that AWESOME soundtrack ❤

[@puertadlm163]

My problem is price and the lack or previous features aka no thumb print, and lack of outstanding ports like last year. I love having all my io ports. I'm a video and photo editor. And having every port available while I'm on the go is super important to me.

[@Inc0gnit045]

Are you a normal video editor or editing heavy 4k videos or above with motion graphics and stuff?

[@puertadlm163]

@Īncognīto I use davinci resolve. So strong gpu is important to me. To actually answer your question I edit in 1080p then final render in 4k. But either way the more gpu the better.

[@Inc0gnit045]

@@puertadlm163 what machine are you using currently?

[@puertadlm163]

@Īncognīto currently using a mix of desktop with a threadripper and a 3090. Then a laptop for some photo editing.

[@Inc0gnit045]

@@puertadlm163 If I go with Lenovo legion 7i - i7 12800HX 16C 24T RTX 3070ti 8GB GDDR6 TGP 150W, would it be a powerful workstation laptop that can handle demanding motion graphics, 3D works and 4K video editing?

[@aureliusvincent4469]

Isn’t the 2023 M16 supposed to be running the 4090 at 150W like it says on their website? Why is it only on 120W?

[@tsalahuddin]

thanks for the review. I have been eyeing m16 for a while now. Seriously considering it due to the mini-LED Display. I have M1 Pro 14" and it makes a world of a difference having a good display. I was wondering, if you would be able to include Microsoft Flight Simulator in your benchmarks? It's quite CPU AND GPU heavy. Would be interesting to see how these laptops handle it.

[@KRFrostFire1]

wait for AMD version for the CPUm they're generally faster than Intel this gen. They also have true 18 cores rather than Intel's hybrid. You can get more info about this by googling AMD 7945hx benchmarks

[@baptisted.8387]

Honest question ; when comparing the blade it is only shown balanced mode, not turbo. Why?

[@maxp4790]

The m16 4090 is supposed to run at 150w according to asus‘ website. Did they avertise this incorrectly ?

[@defunct6852]

What is the name of the song during the benchmark at 12:40 please. Shazam does not find it, different answer everytime. Hardware Canucks would you please list your source?

[@J4s0nLi19o1]

If you have to destroy the adhesive when opening the back, how did you put it back on?

[@gastonanderson1836]

hey, I’m between this computer but the rtx 4060 version w i7 13620, or a Lenovo legion 7 slim i w rtx 3060 and i7 12700h. Which do you recommend? which one would have better specs/ thermals?

[@darkywarky]

I would always choose to use a wired connection during online gaming if I had an ethernet cable available. I've always experienced some form of extra latency and/or packet loss on my end, which has never happened with a cable.

[@MrPirateking619]

Benchmark at around 11:40 is it 13900h? Why it says hx?

[@PerfectCode]

What’s the screwdriver used at 7:51?

[@smashtankful]

Should I expect better batter while web browsing with the 4070 model? Iirc it switches to an onboard gpu when not gaming

[@J0ELtheNOOB]

I went to the mall earlier today in hopes of getting the Zephyrus G14. I wasn't sure if I wanted the 2022 version or wait for the 2023 version which comes with a 4000s series Nvidia GPU. But when I was there, the sales agent showed me the 2023 M16, and I was REALLY impressed by it. I almost bought it but I figured I should sleep on it and read more reviews about it... and now seeing your Battery Life performance, and also 4000 series overheating/fan nosie issue... I am not too sure. I was looking at the 4080 variant, not the 4090. Do you think the battery issue + overheating/fan noise unique to the 4090 variant? Or the 4080 likely suffers from the same issue?

[@pranavkondapalli9306]

i plan on buying the g15 with its better battery life cause of the ryzen 9 cpu? What's your opinion on that?

[@johnraymond7569]

Decent honest review, but I have a Asus rog m16 i9 12900h 3080ti 16gb ddr5 2tb ,2022 model I picked up for 2300.00 was 1100.00 off msrp. And I couldn't be more happy with the price to product. But I would not have paid more than 2500.00 for same thing. As I have been toting about having the best screen ever put on a laptop, now I have the second best next to the new Asus zephyrus, lol. Whatever, as time goes by so does the quality of products, as the next best thing is just around the corner. I would have liked to see you put the specs of a 3080ti against the new 4090. And as it stands right now my 3080ti is better than the new 4070.

[@ericzayya]

In the spec list, you showed i9 13900H CPU but in a benchmarks, you wrote i9 13900HX. So I’m just wondering is it a H or HX CPU? If actually M16 comes with only H CPU and beats Razer’s HX, it’d be super cool.

[@Ash_1277]

Asus topped up with the M16 and really got my heart like even if I get hands on a 2022 model I won't be sad.

[@nxn9172]

I love the animatrix display, but it's just better to get a 2022 g14 at this point. I'm lucky since my company will buy my laptop, but I'm in Japan so these new ones aren't out yet. But, I think that's fine. I decided to get a 2022 lenovo 570 pro, the one with an amd 6000 series chip and a 3060 card. I think these new laptops are just getting hamstrung by nvidia. Maybe AMD will release laptops with better results.

[@BGeldz]

I agree. I picked up a 2002 6700s G14 in perfect shape for $830 a few weeks ago, and it's been fantastic. I immediately upgraded the RAM and SSD to 40GB and 2TB, both purchased on sale, and for around $1,000 this is a killer combination of portable and powerful. So far, it's run everything I've thrown at it, but for anything that requires more, I'd go to a desktop anyway.

[@championsofodin9868]

Does the monitor still raise the keyboard? Hate that they started doing that

[@adiirfan01]

you also need to test the multi zone is usually had lower response time, so single zone benefit is also faster response time

[@Caim8829]

Can you please talk about battery life with the different Mux switch modes, please.

[@rocker10039]

Now all they are missing is a full size keyboard, as a blender/3ds max/gamer I love the numpad very much

[@gameplayworld7921]

Does the monitor display really support HDR gaming and allow turn on HDR mode in games with nebula HDR display? Windows system display setting can turn on Use HDR? What exactly the device module number?

[@Siraphyn]

You don't need to remove the entire silicon foot, just the caps above the screws. I did it last night and it was super easy and my foot is still in place.

[@danielfrappier3378]

I am confused about the battery run time which is tested in 'balance' mode. Afterword it is never mentionned of a balance mode, only performance or silent??

[@48peon]

Always love your reviews. WiFi gaming's latency is just awful, both on average latency and especially peak latency on every routers that I've played with. Most routers companies don't focus on WiFi latency for gaming. I have a Zephyrus G14 (AMD version) with WiFi 6E, and paired with a NightHawk WiFi6, and I still experience latency issues every time I play online FPS games via WiFi. I did come across a lower cost Predator router on Amazon that works really well on WiFi gaming. I bought them for their avg 2ms latency claim to test (I assume it's probably under lab/clean environment setting). I got very similar latency as RJ45, so much so, I couldn't tell the differences between WiFi gaming vs hardwired for online gaming. I think Asus is in the forefront in choosing what feature to trade off. I think it also take new WiFi router OEMs to push the envelope to make RJ45 a thing of the past. I think as long as new router OEMs like Acer Predator pushes the market with better WiFi latency, combined with companies like Asus that fast forward the trade off, I think the day without RJ45 is coming. I'm super happy with my Zephyrus G14 with my Predator W6 gaming router.

[@ACE112ACE112]

I'll always take the reliability of a wired connection. I'm not sure cheaping out on wifi cards is a valid excuse when after market ones are pretty cheap

[@48peon]

@@ACE112ACE112 not saying whether Asus cheaped out, but they did choose not to design in an Ethernet port on my G14. Just saying that I finally found a router that actually gave me low latency WiFi. I've also saw NetGear with their WiFi 7 router at$700, which is about 2x what I've paid for on the Predator W6 router. Like you, I prefer hard wired, but Acer is opening up my mind to the potential of WiFi gaming.

[@kriszhli]

9:45 Strange did they change the PL2 from 135W to 105W?? The 12900h in my 2022 M16 with worse cooling could maintain ~131W when doing Cinebench R23. (My best score was 1870, 18600)

[@leebrandt8597]

Wait, I'm confused. Your game tests only show 120W but this laptop goes up to 145W in boost and 150W in manual mode... why wasn't at least the boost factored into the test?

[@pascalbirle9760]

should i buy the m16 this month or next month for school or should i wait until the 14th gen intel cpu is out and then buy a laptop?

[@HH-dv5gr]

Is the trackpad noisy or rattle if you slightly tap it?

[@Shotgunanybody]

What is your guys opinion on the new 2023 m16 model with the 4070. I just ordered it and this video makes me nervous.

[@mqd100psu]

by the way if you use manual mode the gpu reaches 145w / 150w, I use manual and take away power from the CPU then I just adjust the fan curves and it runs 125w - 145w normally with less fan noise

[@sayanbhattacharya4784]

Does it still blows hot air to the screen? And does it really have any effect on the display life?

[@NotYourHCW]

I want to know aswell

[@k.o.t.o.n.]

Bro, why you write 120w for the gpu? The websites says 145w in turbo, or its manual?

[@totallynotmyeggalt6216]

Is anyone really surprised about Raptor Lake battery life? They changed essentially nothing except for higher clocks; why would anything realistically change

[@totallynotmyeggalt6216]

Also as a side note, I'm fine with the price increase for the base model since it's offering a 4070 versus a 3060, 240hz vs 165hz (which is debatably useful) and double the storage for $300 more; it's a higher tier and offers 3080-ish performance. But I think the main problem may be how cheap 30-series laptops are getting, especially with how high-power 3070Ti implementations seem to be pretty close to the 4070 without frame generation, and 3080 laptops can be found for under $2000.

[@vituserpenbeck9462]

What is a go to convertible for school? Decent performence and all day use taken in concideration.

[@AbhishekVaid]

Just to give you some comparison at 3:08. For the same price of USD 2699, you'll can get a Macbook Pro 16 inch M2 Edition with 16 GB RAM + 1 TB SSD and 20 Core GPU. Pricing here is very fair when you compare.

[@Deinorius]

Well, with a Gaming laptop a RJ45 port doesn't seem to be that necessary at first. But if you have to do serious work and you need a steady network connection in office or where else, then I would bloody obviously take a RJ45 any day! Reliability is key!

[@ch3vr0n123]

Usb rj45 is solution ;)

[@k.o.t.o.n.]

I want the strix scar 16 to have this chasey but thicker. This design is perfect , would be yo cool also for the z13 and ascar 16.

[@olibert2k10]

i have one. it’s a monster. the nebula hdr display is AMAZING. the only let down is the battery life. even on eco can’t pass 1h lol

[@k.o.t.o.n.]

@@olibert2k10 i cant decide between it and the same mimi led top spec razer blade 16. Razer from factory is less powerfulbut you can tweek in the settings to pull the cpu up slmost to factory scar 16 level(over 230k pont on multicore) but dont know about whether the scar be further undervolted and overclocked? What is the the best ever score on a scar 16 2023 12980hx 4090 yet? Do you know? And also as i remember the 175w 4090 in the blade is like a lot less powerful or the cpu or both, the dont rech the level stated in the website while i think scar can do gull 65w in manual and full 175w for gpu when need , blade i think is at least 20 or even 30w lower i gpu. If you have any info comp video on them please link it to me. Also battery life comp i dont know yeah, its a big let down with hx cpus dont know about the razer. Also my biggest dear is rhe power connector. Razers is flush and dont moove, but asus's is llomg narrow and moves, and i broke st least 3 of these chsrgwrs in a lenovo idapad 320s ikb. Though it is smaller narrower snd thinner., But srill for everyday usability its a big let dow bad point and fear and point for a failures what do you think?

[@olibert2k10]

@@k.o.t.o.n. dunno about lenovo or razer. i m an asus customer for many many years. changing every year for a new gen laptop. it’s never a let down. i ve undervolt cpu -30. ni need to tweak anything else it’s pure joy. i don’t run cinebench and all stuff like that. trust me, thé gap of perf between my previous laptop ( g15 strix rtx 3080ti ) is amazing. rtx 4xxx séries are really good.

[@apexfalllegendarium349]

@@olibert2k10 wait what you using a 4080? lel ive still got my gigabyte p34 with a gtx 760m

[@grpi8131]

I like this wallpaper from 3:40. Could You share the link? BTW, best m16 2023 review so far

[@dongyupkim4517]

I really wanted balance mode review because these slim laptops cant use turbo mode usually. nice review

[@scheimong]

Oh boy, plenty of things still use microSD. Dash cams, drones, action cams are just a few things I can think of from the top of my head. I am in fact very happy about manufacturers including a microSD card reader, because it's a non-trivial task to get a multi-function dongle that also includes a high quality microSD card reader.

[@scheimong]

I understand why you would think "nobody uses it" though. People who work in a studio environment like you guys typically don't use equipment with stringent size constraints (which is the primary reason for using microSD).

[@zabadopeach4046]

Is it better than the legion pro 7i both the 4070 version

[@sayanbhattacharya4784]

Hi All, can anyone please tell me if it does blows hot air on to the screen with the new chassis? And does it really have any effect on the display life?

[@MacA60230]

Good review but why do you only run the Titan and the Blade in their balanced profile and not their maxed out profile like you do with the M16? doesn't seem terribly fair

[@cameronbosch1213]

Because this channel doesn't gaf about proper laptop reviews. Try Jarrod's Tech; he truly reviews laptops.

[@vmafarah9473]

This channel use balanced profile from day 1. Only use high performance of the wattage isn't enough.

[@vmafarah9473]

Harrods tech compared 4090 on titan gt77 to desktop which is unfair people think only 50% SLOWER THAN DESKTOP, but in reality it may be 60-70% even though it's 150W laptop and also compared against 3080ti laptop which isn't as thick as former. Biased comparison.

[@walterzolkin]

I'd like you to make a shopping guide for 2023 Laptops. I'm gonna buy one in fall this year. That'd be great.

[@D1n75]

After rewatching, given that e cores seem to help very little with power consumption, nvidia is as power hungry as always been, and that I reside in a country where 5 hour blackouts are, though not the norm, more frecuent than desired, the low battery autonomy of an Intel-Nvidia combo is making highly probable for me to remain a ryzen User.

[@alexfns2427]

I agree that a full size sd card is much more helpful for content creation, but I can also appreciate a micro sd card slot, it's cheap way to add extra storage to your laptop and you can just leave the card in they don't stick out that much.

[@haskell3702]

When will it be available for buy?

[@krishsaini6958]

Hey what laptop would you recommend in 2023 for gamming and school

[@furitsuuu]

Hey, does anyone know the wallpaper in the thumbnail? Would appreciate if someone knew.

[@dimplezzz_kb2932]

Does the 4080 variant suffer from the same wattage limitations?

[@nanodesu9031]

Rj34 is the way to go if dont move your laptop as often Like do. I have a MSI delta 15 and it has a wifi 6E chip built inside which is great however my wifi router is still stuck at wifi 5. And buying a new router is too expensive than buying a lan cable. Latency and interference is still an issue even if you used the latest wifi tech.

[@mohammedalomani1444]

Does it have a 4080 or 4070 version and how much would that be ..!?

[@maxix545]

Can I make my own design for the matrix with the base model? This looks insane value considering the screen alone

[@doesitallmatter1072]

What is the exact ram brand that is in the laptop?

[@gibsonblogger]

I noticed you only reported a Blender benchmark for the CPU. What is the Blender result of the mobile 4090 ?

[@bharathmk6]

Hello 🙂! I truly appreciate your content and find your videos to be fantastic. One aspect that I particularly enjoy is the captivating and dramatic tone of your voice when you provide feedback or respond to comments. It's quite engaging 😉! Overall, your work is excellent, and I encourage you to keep it up. I have a suggestion for a future video topic: a comparison between the ROG Zephyrus M16 (2023) and the Razer Blade 16 (2023 - 4080 GPU model). I would be very interested in hearing your verdict on these devices, particularly regarding whether the Razer Blade is worth the significant price difference. A comparison video would be truly valuable. Thank you✌!

[@Phoenix56801]

I think the base model price is justified, you get better CPU and GPU tiers i9 vs i7 and xx70 vs xx60, also double the storage

[@mariozamora9684]

I agree. Specially when looking at other 4070 laptop prices. This one is on the lower side.

[@sievid2066]

The pricing is somehow even more ridiculous in Europe. On every single website in Belgium the 4080 version costs €3800 ($4100) and the 4090 version costs €4500 ($4900)...

[@Sundara229]

Same here in Germany. Grabbed last years top spec model with 12900H and 3080 Ti for 1900 EUR instead.

[@djthomi]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the 4080 variant has 16GB DDR, and 1TB SSD, and the 4090 has the 32GB DDR and 2TB SSD. Your review stated that both 4080 and 4090 both have the same DDR and SSD. Otherwise, at $2,699 for the 4080 is a great deal that I have not seen anywhere...

[@chriscams9303]

So the 4070 version has nebula but not nebula hdr and 600 less bits of brightness compared to the 4080 version ??

[@Flatline-effect]

Why are the blade benchmarks on balanced mode and not performance/boost? Balanced mode is for day to day use.

[@formulaic78]

The FPS on Far Cry 6 is interesting. At 4K that's about the same as my 3080 desktop does. So I guess it's about as powerful as a 3080 desktop; which is impressive, especially as the 40 series has DLSS3 so could potentially give even more.

[@jipeh]

that sounds like the opposite of impressive

[@HanhaloArt]

how do you reinstall win11 if you need a wired connection to do this? I did it 2 times on my 2022 m16 and both times it said I need a wired connection...

[@tazwarrabab3452]

If possible can u also do the review for the new ASUS ROG Zephyrus G16

[@teamhelton3712]

I purchased the 2022 model (i9 3070 ti) on sale for $1500 from Best Buy when this years models were announced. Yes I use the RJ45 port even though I have wifi 6E routers and a 6E card installed. Loving it so far!

[@thrace336]

smart decision

[@UsnRoberts]

Did the same at a little bit lower price, but honestly $3k to $5k is silly. You could build a desktop and have a last Gen laptop for that. Or buy 2 friends laptops too!!

[@ctk4949]

Would like to see the 4080 version compared to the Razer 16

[@levygaming3133]

Or the blade 16 with the 4090 compared to this.

[@bl4ckst0ne]

@@levygaming3133 The M16 scores a 20K on cinebench at stock. The Blade 16 scores ~29.5K on cinebench at stock...~32.5K if you undervolt the CPU.

[@legendspaintball]

@@bl4ckst0ne that’s a huge difference 😅

[@Flatline-effect]

Also, let's see the performance/boost mode numbers and not balanced mode for blade.

[@jduarte1506]

Excellent analysis, between the Asus Rog M16, the new LENOVO LEGION SLIM and the new HP OMEN TRANSCEND with the same specifications which would be the best laptop, with gpu 4070

[@sedonisjackman7039]

2:16 is HDR available on both single and multi zone?

[@vncube1]

7:41 that's a big fat no-no from me. This isn't some grimy old low maintenance Celeron laptop from 2012, this is a super high end gaming/creator laptop with which the user can afford to add/replace SSDs. Hiding bottom panel screws in the rubber feet is terrible design. And once again Eber, who in the "real world" uses the CPU for Blender?!

[@levygaming3133]

For that last point: people that are trying to do something that doesn’t fit in VRAM (although with 16gb on the 4090, that’s not to likely) or using one of the functions that are CPU only (if it still has any?)

[@vncube1]

@@levygaming3133 what CPU-specific function would you look for in Blender that makes you ignore the GPU for the entire lifetime of this type of laptop? Off screen physics calculations??? Seriously, I think Hardware Canucks are the only channel that benchmark CPUs in 3D rendering apps and calls that "real world" (rather than stating that CPUs are merely being compared).

[@TVCHLORD]

the 2022 m16 gaming benchmarks are done in performance mode (90w) instead of turbo (120w) so theyre not really comparable since you didnt want to test that laptop at its full potential

[@joshpeck9266]

Which 4080 model has 2 TB of storage and 32 GB of RAM? The one at Best Buy only has half that… I don’t know where you got that Model

[@muhd.roszaimanrossli9846]

Is the video make a mistake spec? I though M16 is I9 13900H not HX and the GPU is RTX4070 not 4090??

[@mavis9637]

Since I booked 4090 M16 on 2/23, I always expect to receive it. Unfortunately, when i got this laptop today, there is a flaw. The bottom of laptop is uneven. So, i apply to return immediately!!! I am thinking whether I will book a new M16 or choose to buy G14.

[@Daithi182]

Hope someone can help me out with choosing RAM. I know these new M16’s come with 1x16GB of RAM and an empty slot to upgrade. I’m stuck between deciding on getting another 16GB stick for a total of 32GB or get a 32GB stick to bring it up to a total of 48GB. I don’t fully understand the duel and quad channel memories and wonder if having two mismatched RAM sticks (16GB + 32GB) would cause any performance issues? For reference, I do a lot of editing and casually game. The idea of having 48GB over 32GB sounds good, but again, not sure if there would be diminishing returns if they’re not matching. Thanks!

[@JonathanAllain]

I ALWAYS use LAN when I can. I have wired all the significant locations in my house, and will always do so.