The Ruger SFAR Showdown | 6.5 vs .308

[@LegendsDemon4]

I have the 20 inch SFAR .308 and have put 1000 rounds through it so far. I've tested 147gr all the way to 185gr factory ammo. The suppressor I use is the Radical Firearms Sinter 7.62 flow through. Early on I changed the gas block to the RifleSpeed and that fixed the gas issues. Setting 10 for unsuppressed, and setting 4 for suppressed (bump up to setting 5 as the carbon builds up between cleanings). Grouping has been as low as 0.4 MOA at 100 yds in a 5 shot group (Berger 185gr OTM factory load). Best 20 shot groups were with Federal SMK 168gr and 175gr (1 to 1.25 MOA solid hole in the target).

[@gchild00]

Did you happen to change your handguard as well?

[@LegendsDemon4]

@@gchild00 No, it's the factory handguard. However, I had to add an M-lok sling mount onto the rail since the RifleSpeed interfered with the one machined into the handguard.

[@gchild00]

​@@LegendsDemon4 ok thanks. I'm waiting on my riflespeed to get here next week. I have the 16 inch version

[@LegendsDemon4]

@@gchild00 You're welcome. I did end up having to get a new rifle length gas tube because one of the pins just would not come out of the original gas block. Gunsmith broke 3 brass punches before just getting a new tube.

[@davidgattis7378]

I went to the aero adjustable gas block myself.

[@balane6064]

I have the SFAR .308 with a 20 inch barrel and it’s been an albatross for me! It shot pretty good the first 100 rounds, but after 200+ rounds I started having issues. One thing I can say is that Ruger does NOT know how to build an adjustable gas block. The number 1 setting is supposed to be for suppressors, 2 for normal shooting with standard loads, and 3 for abnormal/carbon buildup shooting. It got to the point where the 3 setting was causing jams. I did some research and eventually changed out the gas block with a Riflespeed with 12 settings to fine tune your settings between suppressed and unsuppressed as well as different powder loads. Bottom line: it’s a good thing the SFAR is inexpensive because you’re going to need $200+ to fix the gas block issues…and a few extra bucks to make it ambitious with safety selectors/mag releases and front flash suppressors/muzzle brake so you can mount your favorite silencer.

[@billhicks3415]

Agreed 100%. My 20" SFAR in 308 was great for the first 350 rounds. Now it's having gas related issues. It's upsetting because I was quiet fond of the rifle. It's been very accurate too. I am getting 1.25 MOA groups with S&B 168 gr match ammo. I need to try changing the gas block on this thing because when it was working reliably the first 350 rounds, it was everything I wanted in a lightweight, hard hitting, semi auto.

[@mikenstien1861]

There's a Ruger bulletin about the SFAR and the gas block. Seen this on other channels. There's a proper way to break them in. It may also be in the Manual.

[@brandongibbs3016]

Where are you from to call something an albatros?

[@teenlaqueepha]

Ruger had known issues with the gas block, but luckily they got it resolved. I waited a little bit so they could get the kinks worked out lol They’re solid now

[@kdavis623]

I got lucky with my 16". I got it right when they came out and somehow got one of the few 16" with no gas block issues. I'm still only at about 800 rounds, fingers crossed it stays solid.

[@coppertopv365]

308 for me.

[@ArmonMitchell]

It was good fir Verdun itll be good for Louisville

[@michaelstaruszkiewicz8798]

Need a distance like 400 - 500 meters, let the rifle stretch its legs.

[@ericvantassell6809]

without a bipod the rifle is a Lt Dan. It ain't got no legs

[@siege2928]

5.56 distances? Maybe 700-800 for 30 cal. If we're talking about "stretching legs"

[@michaelstaruszkiewicz8798]

@@siege2928 I was being polite, LOL.

[@brianbutler6431]

I’m a righty. An ambi safety bothers my grip & trigger hand. You should have the ability to choose lefty, righty, full ambi. So we almost completely agree.

[@CoryIsMyName]

I'd like to see a roundup of budget AR-10s like this, the Saint Victor, or an Aero Precision. There's another video where Clint talks about them, but seeing them in action is a lot different.

[@triedproven9908]

Good idea.

[@triedproven9908]

The adjustable gas block is great just needs to have more fine adjustments. Like 10 click adjustments instead of the 3 or 4 these have.

[@dustinshaw2419]

Ruger recommended that you ran 200 rounds on setting 3. After that break in, it would run on setting two.

[@goranzakrisson4010]

Well they have clearly read the manual 😅

[@smackdn7756]

Nope watch the ruger video on KZbin. What they say is find what works best for your rifle and ammo your using.

[@jaredspink6250]

I have 200rds thru my 308 SFAR, still get malfunctions. Sent it back to ruger and it still malfunctions. Its a nice platform (light, inexpensive) but they’ve got a long way to go.

[@dustinshaw2419]

@@jaredspink6250 I had to change the gas regulator. They sent me one, but then I put a superlative arms on it

[@smackdn7756]

​@jaredspink6250 I am close to a thousand rounds and no issues. I haven't moved from setting 3 and just keep it clean between range times.

[@DblDeuce22]

308 all day!! Loving my 16in SFAR after 500 rounds with zero issues running 150 gr within 1.5 in at 100 yds. I'm curious to see how it perfo4ms once i get my can on it soon.... the owner manual states about adjusting the gas setting only after the first 200 rounds, and not before.

[@MadOgre]

So the gun IS RELIABLE when you don't lower the gas settings which are for the purpose of running suppressors. I have one in .308, and I don't know what it looks like Jammed. It's never done it. Then again, I've not induced Malfs by closing down the gas.

[@stevewalker2283]

I love the 308 sfar. Absolutely great firearm

[@davidl7006]

DDm5v4 is one of the best 308 ar10s. I can shoot moa or sub moa on a good day. The bolt and barrel are top notch

[@tomubl2655]

i have the dd5v4, at 8.6 lbs, however i wanted to get something that folded and is uber light. i looked at the sfar and pof rogue. too many people having issues with the ruger, which ruger should gen 2 fix it hopefully, and the rogue has some unique engineering, but i am just not convinced when you start to read the commentaries,...if im dropping this much coin i dont expect to have to smith the snot out of it.

[@unas]

Kaya over there looking like Al Pachino in the movie HEAT

[@DonnaSeward-m7l]

Turkish Henry Cavill 😂

[@RS-xz5hr]

I think I learned more about your shooting ability than the rounds

[@Sryofcrv1]

yeah they missed pretty much every target at the beginning.

[@daygonwatkins2282]

Aaron’s line-reference to Sling Blade is hilarious. Easily overlooked for some people, I’m sure.

[@badkarmaiii]

It's NOT an AR 10. It's an AR 15 adapted to take cartridges traditionally chambered in AR 10s. An AR 15 upper will fit the lower.

[@WestCrossing127]

Not milspec trigger. It's Rugers Elite 452. 2 stage 4,5-ish lb pull.

[@engineer2001]

LOL - Aaron with the Slingblade "it ain't got no gas in it" quote.

[@donrichter3523]

Keep in mind, barrel life is cut in half for 6.5CM. And since these are NOT chrome lined barrels, it could be short.

[@chrisfly777300ER]

They are CHF nitride. While not as good as chrome, it will hold up

[@armorers_wrench]

I've seen this claim before and it really depends on how you define barrel life. The MATCH GRADE life is half. In terms of how long you'll be able to achieve reasonable accuracy? It will still last a decent amount of rounds. For what most people do with AR10s? It'll probably last the entire life of the owner because very few people are actually shooting large frame ARs over 1,000 rounds a year or even in their entire life. But even for people who are really hammering it, you'll still get like 3-4moa for a long time before the barrel is truly spent. That claim of "half the barrel life" originated from competition guys who want every round touching or preferably through the same ragged hole at 100m. Either way, if you can afford 15,000 rounds of 6.5 to burn out a barrel you can afford ~$350 for a Criterion 6.5 barrel.

[@justusbryant7366]

​@@armorers_wrenchummm 6.5 is not 15000 rounds more like 2500.

[@burnsey3651]

Barrel life has nothing to do with caliber but more with muzzle velocity and how hot you allow your barrel to get.

[@justusbryant7366]

@@burnsey3651 dude im telling you 6.5 creed barrel life is short and yes it does. Your ignorance is showing.

[@voteholyk]

You guys are awesome. Love the new additions to the channel. Hope Kaya and Aron stick around.

[@joecascio2073]

I have the 16" .308 version and have had nothing but great results... The Riflespeed add on is probably a good idea if you're having issues but so far I haven't experienced 1 malfunction. I'm at about 750 rounds using the Vortex Gen III HD 1 x 10 . Maybe i just hit the jackpot and got one that was manufactured properly. Another AR10 I'd consider is the Aero Precision. Couple buddies have them and they love em.

[@ljh150]

I have the Ruger AR10 in 308 with Arken 5-25 as well as Aimpoint Pro and I love it, it’s super accurate with both. The Arken is really good out to 450 yards and the Aimpoint Red Dot is good out 100 yards or so.

[@stuartdivebum]

I put a superlative arms gas block on mine And now it’s absolutely reliable

[@johnmerritt1094]

Cz tikka bergara bolts savage bolts… all day! Savage msr 6.5 ar Bush master ar Sig ar Wyndham ar Have all run flawlessly… even my psa multiple

[@chris3texas]

Nice choice in shooting the Hornady grain for 308. Definitely should try the test at greater distances and perhaps also with the 16 inch barrel as well.

[@dimemmo]

That charging handle sounds so rough lol never underestimate a good buffer spring everyone

[@PigDaddy409]

I wanna know how much you let the barrel cool on the.308 after running it like that before the comparison?

[@zsb23]

Do Ruger SFAR vs POF Rogue. Both are AR15 sized 308's, and both are available in 6.5CM. Could also compare the POF Revolution to the Adams Arms P2 AARS for small frame piston driven 308's.

[@dabears52501]

Great vid! I would like to see the SFAR vs other budget AR-10's. Same barrel lenghts at 100 & 500 yards. That would be a great watch. I love my 16" SFAR!! I'm almost to 1,000 rounds on it. The trigger is phenomenal too!! Pleasure to shoot & has the power of .308! It's awesome.

[@fluffy10mmjeepguy92]

I'm a 308 guy. If I want to go further, I'll grab the 338 lapua out of the safe. I have the 20" sfar in 308 only have about 20ish rds though it i just put a huxwrk flow ti on it once im healed from shoulder surgery i will be running a lot of different rds test out of it.

[@feenixqpqp]

Got a 16" SFAR 308 with a 5x micro prism. 2" moa @100 with cheap igmans. Had a failure to extract twice during break in. Runs fine since then. Light reliable, fun to shoot. Always liked 7.62/308 this fills that battle rifle/truck gun role perfect for me. And it's cheap enough to toss around and not be an art piece. Edit: looked @ zero pictures definitely a 2'' not 1.5

[@erikwhyyy]

The rifles weren’t zero’d before the test ?? I see the grouping from each one but can’t rely much on this video for these calibers.

[@jimmyslim1628]

I'd take either, both are good.

[@dustinshaw2419]

The 308 shoots way better with 150 through 168 grain projectile. I consistently get 1.5moa. I put a Tommy trigger and superlative arms gas block on mine, and it runs any ammo.

[@joeversus7113]

I built an AeroPrecision Ar10 308 and shoots .6 moa really well. But it's a very heavy gun and was looking for something half its weight that wasn't a bolt gun.

[@luisarroyo6594]

In my experience, my SFAR 6.5 Creedmoor does not cycle polymer tipped bullets very well and at times bends them leading to accuracy problems. Fortunately, that rifle seems to love cheap S&B 156 lead soft point. I get moa to sub.moa

[@jw22230]

Seems to be the same for me… my 6.5 sfar loves s&b 140g but jams here and there with eldx

[@KristofferEngstrom]

Loading my own 147 grain s&b with a recipe I found works really good. 10 shot groups at around 1,5 MoA with a vortex viper 1-6

[@Disastrous.Affect]

100 yards is not a long enough distance to establish rifle accuracy for me, it just isn't.🤷‍♂

[@Past_Noon-tb4km]

Has ruger fixed the gas issues now or is something you have to do to fix it

[@SEPTEMBERMAN]

nice barrel dip when you pulled the trigger there sniper. Anticipating the shot even when unloaded.

[@dusterssixteen]

Change the gas block and tube to an Aero Precision adjustable block and its related tube. Tune the gas per AP’s instructions, and try seeing if you get FTF or FTE issues

[@roul3688]

The 20” 308 is capable of better accuracy with hand loads but I seem to have a more difficult time stabilizing the AR platform vs a bolt action. Hornady 165gr SST and 168gr AMax with IMR 4064 does pretty well.

[@mikemason4758]

I wonder if the drop has anything to do with your .308 shots. Drop doesn’t occur till 120 yards.

[@Mr.Constitutionalist427]

If you read the manual, Rugar suggests that you break the rifle in on gas setting 3 which takes about 100 rounds, then 2 works for most rounds then 1 for suppressed.

[@smackdn7756]

Apparently you haven't read the Ruger manual because it doesn't say anything about breaking It in on setting 3. As a matter of fact this is exactly what it says..."Most commercial ammunition will cycle optimally on setting "2", which is an ideal starting point when first shooting the rifle with new ammunition, unsuppressed ."

[@Mr.Constitutionalist427]

@@smackdn7756 Page 43 of the Manual covers the Break In and states 100 - 200 rounds to break in. The on setting 3 I got from a video I watched with a Ruger rep that suggested to use setting 3 for the Break In. I shot 160 on setting 3 for my break in and then switched to setting 2 and have ran it since. Ibhave not had a single misfeed in right around 800 rounds now. I have the 16 Inch. Anyone can do as they please but yes the Manual does cover break in.

[@smackdn7756]

@Mr.Constitutionalist427 I'm just trying to correct all the misinformation about the manual saying to "break-in " on setting 3. Your first statement started out .."if you read the manual " ...sure I read the manual, and it does cover break-in on page 43 , but nothing about "break-in " on setting 3.

[@Mr.Constitutionalist427]

@@smackdn7756 OK then let's go with common sence for the break in then also. Setting 3 allows the most gas through the gas block it is mostly for weaker loads, but for break in you want the parts to have full force travel to wear in the parts, also there are 7.62x51 rou ds than do not have a high enough pressure load to full cycle the action out of the box on setting 2. It was one of the large complaints on this rifle were people.made that 7.62x51 were having trouble cycling on setting 2 out of the box. Mine cycles 7.62x51 fine on setting 2 and I honestly believe it is due to the break in on 3, I am glad that I watched videos on people with the SFAR and looked up complaints on it before I bought one so I knew what not to do during break in.

[@geoffreyfields2456]

I have a SFAR 308 in 16inch and I do really like it. However I find there is a whole lot of deviation with different ammo and it does not like 7.62 keep up the good work guys. I always enjoy your content.

[@naterod5830]

Hey Arron just checking you have a holosun scs320 on your p320 x5 legion?

[@anthonykeller2760]

You really need a rear support bag to stabilize the gun for the accuracy test

[@Watchdog_UFOtestpilot]

6.5 runs best with 24” barrel, and >800 meters. .308 is my personal choice for a multitude of reasons, ESPECIALLY with a 16” barrel. DD5v3 in .308 is a perfect mid-tier gun that runs superbly.

[@hotvindilu1]

I have the 16” 308, shot Federal ammo my first time taking it out on gas setting 3 and had more FTE’s and *clicks* than I did rounds actually shot off. Very disappointed, haven’t even put 100 rounds through it yet but the thing just wasn’t working. Not sure where to go from here with it, I really like the gun just don’t like the errors that are arising out of it…

[@miketrainowski8559]

I can’t figure out what is ringing after every time they rack it. At first I thought it was the dust cover, but a dust cover, even one from an AR-10, isn’t big enough to ring that much. It’s not the muzzle device either because it’s not forks like a SureFire.

[@1snitrad]

A comparison against the .308 Ar-10- Aero Precision, Sig 716i, SW Volunteer, Diamondback, CMMG, Daniel Defense

[@hanshoffman7923]

My 308 SFAR 16” accuracy is very Ammo dependent. I generally use Hornady Outfitter 165 and consistently shoot 2 moa. M118 will get that down to 1.5. Remington CoreLokt tipped 180 shot over 3 moa.

[@bradhertzler4451]

SFAR - small-framed auto-loading rifle

[@doctexas1666]

Both had horizontal stringing. I would be interested to find out why.

[@leeroy3136]

Iv got sfar u need to run it on setting 3 for first 250 rds or so then turn down to setting 2 …I run a can on mine on setting 1 .. iv put 1500+ rds threw mine it’s a great rifle ..I shot a lot of nato ammo

[@ckmoore101]

As a very new, newbie to this world.... do we _really_ need a super budget AR10?

[@2punish1]

He used the Hornady Precision Hunter ammo (178 grain) for the .308 during the accuracy test, but he didn't use the Hornady Precision Hunter ammo (143 grain) for the 6.5 Creedmoor during the accuracy test. Instead, he used the Hornady ELD-M (140 grain) for the 6.5 Creedmoor during the accuracy test. In other words, hunting ammo vs match grade ammo. The accuracy test should have been Hornady ELD-M (168 grain) for the .308 vs Hornady ELD-M (140 grain) for the 6.5 Creedmoor.

[@BuckR-lz9rf]

My SFAR 308 did not like steel cased at all! Had 1 spent cartridge stick in the chamber. Ripped through the head, had to drive it out with range rod.

[@931PORSCHE]

Ruger does say run on setting 3 for 200 round break in .

[@swemariner]

Thanks lads great video, Im going for the Ruger SFAR 308, question shouldent the scopes be zeroed in before shooting 5 rounds thats how we do on shooting range in Sweden

[@lesterlauritzen]

I'm guessing those barrels are still breaking in. Might account some for the drifting right shots.

[@xenomorphelv4265]

are the barrels proprietary ?

[@marktarascio4766]

I bought my 308 DPMS carbine when it got rifle of the year by the NRA . Never had a problem.I think a small frame 308 might be too much for a 80,000 psi chamber, pressure. Ruger tried to make a Mini 14 in 308 and failed in their testing. Guys like you who just blast away needs to take caution with pressure adjustments.

[@AZFarmFun-hp1cu]

17:25 ya’ll could shoot tighter groups if you moved your sandbag rest forward a bit. Set an example and wear eye protection. Kids watch this stuff and assume ya’ll know what you are doing, and not pretenders.

[@joelhunter984]

That exact ammo shoots those 2 MOA (Five boxes still sitting in my safe) groups out of my TIKKA 20 inch. I switched to Blackhills Gold 6.5 143 ELD -X and 1/2 inch groups all day long!!!

[@chadillac95]

Big ole flinch by kaya at the beginning of the video! 😅

[@cristianbradeanu2016]

You need to try with 5 different ammo . Doesn't seem it likes thw match...my sig cross 308 likes 168 gr federal trophy bonded tip and the new silver 180gr from browning

[@jasonkeating9958]

It will be interesting to see what the 6.5 creedmoor will become when 277 fury 2 piece cases become readily available, Also all the other rounds based on the same case, To get the best from that round and really long bullets without using up case capacity I wonder if some manufacturers with come out with a different lower and magazine that basically extends the length of the magazine by around 1", Actually and extended AR10 style mag that's an inch longer worth be a big benefit even without the 2 piece case,

[@JohnQuincy1776]

The creedomore round is more spicy how? It has less energy and less felt recoild. The BS means it drifts and drops a little less, but it isn't much.

[@NNITRED]

Did they work out the gas system bugs outta thing? Early adopter reviews made me hold off.

[@charlesludwig9173]

6.5 has MOA wind constant of about 16 at 600 yds vs .308 at 10. So for distance the 6.5 is boss unless barrel life is paramount then the .308 will be about 10,000 rounds vs 1200 rounds in X-Ring at distance, meaning MOA.

[@bfox87]

Meanwhile in illinois its bolt-action vrs lever-action all we can get😢

[@TMFShooting]

Another Great Video 💯💥💥💥💥💥💥💥

[@RogerMitchem-rl5mo]

Well Kaya which is it? Does .308 come in 16 or 20 inch barrels? Cause first you said .308 only in the 16 inch barrel then you said “you have the option of 16 or 20 inch for .308”

[@chatnasty]

The SFAR comes in a 16" and 20" 308.

[@JFon-ck6mg]

308 either length 6.5 is only available in 20

[@RogerMitchem-rl5mo]

I know but if you listen to Kaya he says one statement then he says another

[@juhanivalimaki5418]

AR-10s generally have different ejection pattern from AR-15s. Heavier BCG, heavier recoil spring. So don't force them towards four o'clock, if manual says two o'clock 😆

[@JonDon-x7v]

I will say, the owners manual says break it in on setting 3.

[@cesargonzalezbueno3359]

What lpvo was used in this video?

[@TheArchangel1776]

Be nice if Ruger offered it in 30-06 and 8.6Blk... they do have a gas port issue that got resolved in the Gen2 models.... Search YT for vids

[@brandiwynter]

As I understand it from watching other tests of the SFAR is that it's a great rifle but the barrels are so thin that accuracy falls off quickly as it heats up. Frankly that accuracy is unacceptable in most rifles but because this platform prioritizes weight over accuracy it's a winner. Personally I'd prefer this platform with a heavier profile barrel to get the best of both worlds.

[@mikenstien1861]

Just wait! The aftermarket will probably provide at some point in the future.

[@aeis3007]

The SFAR comes with a heavy profile barrel not a pencil barrel. Specifically a cold hammer forged 4140 chrome-moly steel barrel.

[@6NBERLS]

I don't like the 1:10 twist of the SFAR. 1:8 would be more to my liking. Oh, and R5 style rifling.

[@nikos6220]

Very cool comparison. But the precision test …, with that setup you run there on the bench you might as well roll the inch dice 😁

[@Sryofcrv1]

You guys totally glossed over the real selling point of this rifle, which aside from the price is the weight.. this gun is pretty much a punched out AR-15 chassis to accept 308 bolt and magazines.. it only weighs like 6.8lbs from the factory which is awesome.. it's on par with the POF guns, which are around $2800 or more from the factory... the SFAR in 16" 308 is now like $970 at most dealers.. that's an insane price and it's insanely light for a 308. Also, you guys should have properly zeroed these guns before this video, the 5 round accuracy tests are not anywhere near what that gun should do.

[@seansimone-e6k]

Barrel length also makes a bigger difference

[@cardboardkiller6883]

I would like to have seen each shooter, shoot both rifles. That would have eliminated the variable of having a different shooter behind each gun and given a clearer picture of the differences between the 2 rifles.

[@naterod5830]

Are you guys able to make a video on the holosun scs320 on the p320 x5 legion as far as clarity and view

[@DonnaSeward-m7l]

Kaya, being Turkish and former law enforcement...how do you feel about turkey bacon? Do you like it? 🦃🥓

[@Gunmaster909]

Racist clown 🤡

[@LostChaos1313]

If it can't eat the steel It doesn't get the brass. Easy fix is a heavier hammer spring. The heavier hammer spring should come standard on such a well priced rifle.

[@paolosasso2189]

I have that problem on one of my 65 Grendel. Fix there was enhanced firing pin.

[@johnmerritt1094]

I love ruger revolvers! I like ruger semi auto hand guns, not crazy about any at platform I have ever handled that they have produced… the bolts are ok.. ish, imho

[@bucdan9242]

Everyone saying 6.5cm having a barrel life of 1200 rounds... yes for PRS shooting before it opens up too much for guys that want the smallest group possible, but even 2500 is great. It's still capable up to 5000 rounds and maintain 1.25 moa reasonably especially for a semi auto. And don't forget, PRS shooters load 6.5cm very hot for bolt guns, and with the overbore itll shred for sure. Most off the shelf ammo isnt even close to these hand loads.

[@stevensnipes1404]

I got the SFAR 308 16” earlier this year and the gas block sucks. Aero Precision adjustable gas block now installed but not tested yet. My buffer tube rotated because there is no cut out for the detent. My version has a different hand guard, mine does not have a full pic rail like the ones in this video.

[@aeis3007]

Full pic rails only came on the 20 not the 16.

[@Mr.Constitutionalist427]

I have had 2 Aero disappointed in both, finally got my second one running consistent but way to many issues for rifle that cost 2k, My SFAR eats every type of ammo I toss at it, just doesn't care and have put around 460ish rounds through it no issues. Granted I might have just been lucky to get a very good one, and I broke it in as the manual said to.

[@mikechadwick5557]

308 for me as well, 178gr. SMK out of a Springfield Saint. 1/2 @100

[@Drahazar1]

Been thinking of buying this gun. But I kinda want a BM-59E lol

[@SquallWulfhart]

Maybe I'm wrong, but you stated that 6.5 was a spicier round, but all I've ever seen is the 308 having the muzzle energy advantage. Now at 1000 meters, sure the 6.5 will have more energy.

[@wavemakersdj]

Before testing accuracy, I'd want to have a confirmed zero. While I think it does show a minor accuracy difference, I've had better groupings than this in 5 shot out of my 16" SFAR .308 with a proper confirmed zero at 100. Right under MOA using basic AAC 150gr and a 2-10 Viper FFP.

[@viking7558]

SFAR Short Frame Autoloading Rifle, it's not an AR10 actually. As far as ammo I will stick with .308 due to it being a NATO round and Ammo is plentiful

[@DDesigner123]

I'm getting a 16" in 308 . It's a battle rifle not made for precision. So 2moa good enough. I bet I could do under 2 moa for sure..

[@BeleducMartello]

Great video! Good pricing but not accurate enough for anything serious

[@USAF-SF]

I see 2 scopes that need to be zeroed...

[@Josh5.56x45]

Peak as always

[@nickdial8528]

There's no question. 6.5 creedmore, is not a good battle rifle caliber. At typical engagement ranges, a battle rifle would be used for such as this, there's zero advantage 6.5 creed has over the 308. The 308 matches the creedmore on every range needed until you get into the far distance edges, of which you're not going to use a battle rifle for. 308 it's also widely used for machine guns on military applications, police applications, hunting applications, it's plentiful, relatively cheap in comparison and easy to find. There is absolutely no advantage or reason to use a creedmore n this type of platform.

[@justusbryant7366]

What was he aiming at?