The Sabrina Carpenter Controversy

[@lilyhosick3405]

It’s so wild to me that a popstar makes an album that is basically totally about sex, they let their kids listen to it, their kids go to the concert, and then they get mad at the artist for the sexual references? Who’s fault is that

[@the_piano_nerd4960]

Preach. Girl even had a warning before her taste music video for graphic violence, which is more than what most do. She’s a popstar, not a babysitter. And she’s 26!!

[@irenakurtic-l8z]

I wonder do those people let kids watch adult movies and then complain about it

[@Cloudsofsand]

She was an opener/closer and eras...they went to see taylor not her so it is logically people are disturbed.

[@lilyhosick3405]

@@Cloudsofsand It’s not like Taylor doesn’t have songs about sex. These are adult artists writing songs for other adults. Parents need to do their due diligence. These aren’t kids shows

[@dmotley0595]

​@@Cloudsofsandthey could've just left the theater for the first 20 minutes💀

[@alejandromavare4224]

It's strange to think that this type of criticism about a person's "hypersexualization" is directly expressed towards female artists, I mean, I don't see anyone thinking about how kanye west talks about a woman giving him a "blowjob" and saying "oh you know, this can be a bad influence on his 13-year-old fans" it's like that kind of criticism is reserved for women.

[@mypussystanksbad8]

Yup. Although I would say it's reserved for woman and queer men. Straight men(or least assumed to be straight) In particular don't receive criticism. Just look how much backlash Lil nas x got when he was sexual.

[@OffTom5783]

because kanye's audience are not children

[@reactionqueenboss2001]

💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@Mangafrita533]

you two have raised such an interesting point, I don't know how I haven't thought about that. It all ties back to the idea that men are the only ones who should talk openly about sex, but if it's a queer man then he's disgusting and weird, and if it's a woman she's a slut

[@watercreamspalace]

@@OffTom5783 That’s literally not true. When I was in high school, one of the main artist they talked about was “ye” and other sexual rappers.

[@winterr.m]

I find it weird that female artists are always the target with this conversation, but not male artists. Male artists make just as much music about sex, drugs, and violence, but are never criticized for not being good role models.

[@justjoannak]

This! The double standards, misogyny and sexism are just gross imo

[@luisabolado]

and usually are way more explicit wayyy more often… just look at 15 seconds of an eminem song

[@graceporter9853]

It's not just about their music, its also the outfits and overly sexual dances and gestures on stage. When has a male artist straight up humped the floor or laid on his back and opened his legs wide as he can.

[@BroJo676]

Male-dominated Hip hop has been criticized, disliked, ridiculed, and sidelined for ages because of the degenerate stupidity is one forms of it unfortunately perpetuate in the Black community. Either you’re completely blind to it or just too young to know.

[@Ada-fz9ug]

Every single rapper ever and the majority of pop men refer to sex in every song they write!! Hell, Travis Scott is in fucking Fortnite and his entire discography is about sex, drugs, and violence but I’ve never seen a single parent complain about him.

[@faynuexunqi4042]

she is an adult making adult music, like who gives a fk that she came from disney? people are so weird.

[@reactionqueenboss2001]

💯

[@shaneilellis9832]

@@faynuexunqi4042 ask you can see, that you people don't have moral compass .

[@senorita-qh6bm]

Probably just the dad in the crowd and their kids but it’s funny watching her ask 13 yr olds if “they’ve done this position ” (a sex position)

[@srami004]

BOOM

[@oblivion6441]

@@senorita-qh6bmprobably the dads should do some research about the artist they’re taking their kids to see ?

[@bobago139]

Ross Lynch (a Disney boy) gets half naked during his performances and no one says anything other than admiration. Plus he was on Disney twice as long as Sabrina. It’s your type double edged misogyny.

[@KeevanNorton]

this ^^^ exactly exactly

[@luavra7843]

He even kissed a fan at a concert, an everyones is fine with that

[@ashleycarolyn3533]

THANK YOU. I was thinking about him while watching the video and how he doesn’t receive the same backlash that Sabrina does. People just love to punish women for what men do all the time.

[@NoaSai]

Didn't he telling the world that he had a 3sum or somethin

[@daughterofyah6209]

Popularity also has to do it with it as well. Sabrina is top dog right now so the heat is hotter

[@tamyawaiters7078]

Parents need to understand everything is not for children. They need to do their jobs and monitor what their children are consuming. Sabrina is a grow woman and makes music for grown women (her lyrics) she does not need to cater towards children. The same goes for Olivia Rodrigo. They don’t do this to male singers/rappers…

[@Manhattan384]

Oh no, they definitely do.

[@kelab4599]

@@Manhattan384not as often which the problem

[@Aeunax123]

@@kelab4599they do though. I find significantly less so for male singers, but rappers they lose their minds about the subject matter they rap about. Definitely is affected by racial bias, but.

[@Manhattan384]

@@kelab4599 no, definitely as often, if not more, rappers are (understandably) constantly criticized for their lyrics.

[@kelab4599]

@ Biggest lie ever told

[@tylerhackner9731]

These people would’ve hated 80s and 90s Madonna

[@RazvanMihai88]

Madonna got a lot of hate, from feminists, about her 1992 album & book, that were released. can't mention the names, my comment will be deleted.

[@luisabolado]

or just overall madonna lol

[@fat2518]

And the wildest thing is most of these people were around for 80s and 90s Madonna

[@jo7433]

It’s not like she didn’t get tons of hate back then, and any other female singer that wanted to embrace her sexuality as an adult woman

[@emilynam6084]

I’m almost certain that they did.

[@Alejaccx]

Sabrina is not for kids, that's a parent issue not hers...

[@maiagreat]

I agree but her marketing is very kiddie imo so I understand

[@pennydreadful5163]

@@maiagreatLol. What kiddie part is in her image now I wonder.

[@pennydreadful5163]

@@user-dn6fw1ss1cGo and advocate that same energy to other artiste lol, what a hypocrite.

[@user-dn6fw1ss1c]

@@pennydreadful5163you say that as if you know me, which you don't. I do give criticism to any artist doing this, including men. Your assumption makes you look simple.

[@user-dn6fw1ss1c]

@@pennydreadful5163her "innocent" Lolita-esque style is very appealing especially for predators. It's a little weird. I'm all for women owning their fashion and sense of style, but there needs to be some self awareness, as she well knows she's got a massive fan base of children.

[@Jaded_underrated]

Did parents really think someone with the lyrics "my honeybee come get this pollen" Or "how quickly can u take ur clothes off" Was gonna be family friendly So delulu

[@dontask9000]

The song in question is not something they worry about because literally majority of the time tne meaning will go over their head. Many songs even now I’m still finding out were about sex though I listened to it a lot from the radio when I was younger. Kids don’t understand that stuff and just listen to it enjoying the music. And usually parents aren’t showing these songs to their kids when they’re under nine years old lol. Sometimes they just play it for themselves but don’t mind if their child is around because they know the kid doesn’t get it. Regarding the actual performance most, if not all pop singers aren’t known to be acting out literal sex or sucking dick on stage. So a parent isn’t going to assume Sabrina will do that lol. Normally it’s expected that pop singers strut around the stage or pose. Sabrina has the responsibility to make sure people know what they’re going to see it’s literally her show only she and the people organizing it know what will happen.

[@C12341]

@@dontask9000 wait she’s doing what! Lmaooo okay no shade to her but they need to make sure people know that’s what she does in her act. I think part of the problem is Taylor swift has promoted her a lot and so some parents probably thought she was similar. It seems like her pr is trying to straddle the wholesome and raunchy fan base at the same time Maybe straddle wasn’t the best word but anyway

[@dontask9000]

@@C12341 This!!! Finally someone understands what I’m trying to say. Everyone else on this issue thinks it’s the parent’s job to just know if the performance is okay or not for their kid to see, when Sabrina and her team should be putting viewer discretion.

[@ntuthukomdluli-pd9jv]

😂😂 yall are dirty ,u need Jesus

[@jaiweenie]

​@@C12341 but Taylor has explicit themes, lyrics, and references in her music and live shows as well, so I don't really see how one has to do with the other. And I just don't see why a viewer's discretion is necessary when literally, if you listen to the album of the performer you're paying to see, the very FIRST song of the album has sexual references. She's literally in a bikini top in her cover. Several of her songs are listed as explicit on Spotify. Beyond that, I'm not sure why it's HER responsibility to do a parent's job for them and make sure they're aware of what kind of concert their children might be attending.

[@the_piano_nerd4960]

It’s like parents being mad at Deadpool for not being kid appropriate since it’s a superhero movie. Do you.. not know what Deadpool is? Idk how to help these people, bless them

[@reannagordon]

I think there was some parents right group attacking Disney trying not to have r rated superhero movies (Logan and Deadpool franchise) on there. Just use the parental controls the service has then.

[@FoundSheep-AN]

What is Deadpool? I don’t know Isn’t it like Spider-Man?

[@reannagordon]

@ no he breaks the 4th wall a lot and mostly curses. He’s more of an anti hero.

[@PrincessKLS]

And these are Gen X and Millennial parents. As a Xennial, I don't get how we became conservative parents like ours. I don't kids but still.

[@cincodemanny]

Yall need to realize Sabrina is NOT responsible for raising your kids🙄🙄🙄

[@LadyHoney214]

THIS! THIS PART RIGHT HERE^^ SAY IT AGAIN FOR ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK @cincodemanny!

[@TheBlackPanther05]

FR. She is a 25 Year Old grown-ass WOMAN now. She's not a damn child.

[@veronicaramirez-lt9xo]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@reactionqueenboss2001]

😂😂😂😂

[@dashiajames1882]

Good afternoon: I'm clueless as to why some ppl feel she is 🙄...??

[@omarslayz]

once again, parents are blaming celebrities for their shit parenting. when will they ever truly learn these artists are grown ass adults and are not responsible for your damn kids, put on some Kidz Bop and call it a day.

[@cranburrey]

Fr. Yk they failed as a parent if they're going to blame an artist, who's known for having sexually explicit songs, for not being kid friendly

[@dontask9000]

How are they supposed to know what Sabrina will do on stage lmfao? They aren’t mad about the songs that was never an issue. The meaning usually goes over kids heads and they just enjoy the song as… Yknow a song. They don’t understand the meaning or what it’s about unless a parent flat out explained it or they’re just extremely intelligent for their age. The issue lies in her performances and that there’s no viewers discretion for it. It’s so fucking easy to just say “hey yknow this isn’t for kids.” That’s all a parents needs. They shouldn’t have to learn it from people who went to the concert or video tapped it, or even worse them going not knowing what she’ll do. It has to come from the creator otherwise it’s just unprofessional on Sabrina’s end.

[@Gotakeeverything]

@@dontask9000by doing their actual research, like most responsible parents.

[@d3vc0re]

@@dontask9000 The internet is free. GOOGLE is free. Her music has explicit tags for a reason. She's not obligated to tell stupid people not to do stupid things. Parents should be responsible for what their YOUNG kids are listening and watching.

[@dontask9000]

@ Again it is not about listening so her music has nothing to do with it. You cannot in any way expect the performance ITSELF to be inappropriate just because the music is explicit THAT is stupid. Otherwise who the hell cares about ratings on movies and films you should be able to tell the appropriateness just by what it’s about and the trailer right? Normally for pop musical artists such as Taylor Swift (which Sabrina absolutely does have a similar style to no question there), and Arianna Grande have explicit music, and yet you don’t see them doing inappropriate things on stage. It’s just not expected.

[@awoosh13]

There's a lot of interesting commentary on it and it boils down to: white, petite girl being not what white people envisioned her to be (which is innocent and cute). Speaks to a bigger issue abt how they automatically view POC women and how they put specific white women in a box. Anyone stepping outside of their views makes them clutch pearls

[@ladyn2309]

My thoughts exactly!

[@happyleggo9904]

This makes so much sense. They also seem to think that anything LGBTQ is inherently sexual and look down on it. 2:53 someone complains about two women kissing. That's not even comparable to any of the other stuff she's done. A hetero couple kissing onstage/on screen is seen as romantic, but this is too much?

[@MakaylaWilliams-y3c]

True the only people going after Cardi and Megan were black and there were valid claims but people were more mad at them for what white people think of us. Even if Meg and Cardi weren't around white people will still stereotype us anyway

[@cityboy2092]

That's a big reason why Taylor Swift is such a massive seller and despite her political standing, is BELOVED by the conservative, pearl-clutching crowd. She's a white, blonde, all-American woman who isn't overtly sexual and, whether she intends to or not, embodies a lot of the stereotypes of what said pearl-clutchers deem a "good woman" to be. She's rarely sexual and even when she is, it's easy to miss if you're not paying close attention. Most of her big hits don't contain swear words. A lot of her outfits see her covered head-to-toe. She's as non-threatening as an A-list pop star can be, which is interesting since Sabrina is following the more classic pop star model of leaning into her sexuality. I think a lot of people forgot that Taylor is the exception. Most of the household name pop stars were provocative in one way or another

[@KielC-n2g]

@@cityboy2092 this ✨

[@mluna1898]

They don’t like it when a woman is flirtatious, that’s it!

[@ganja5602]

but they thirst over a man doing it lmao

[@GiulianoMafromaníaco3]

@@user-dn6fw1ss1c shes not lmao

[@RainySkies-05]

Women are flirtatious & sexualize themselves then wanna say they don't wanna be sexualized 🤣 Ya'll are an absolute embarrassment. They advertise themselves like that then get mad when people view them that way lol so funny to me

[@user-dn6fw1ss1c]

@@GiulianoMafromaníaco3she literally is, her sisters practice as do other members of her l fam - in case you don't know, you can't communicate with family in that "church" unless you're a member. Don't be naive.

[@GiulianoMafromaníaco3]

@@user-dn6fw1ss1c She having a scientologist family does not make her one 💁‍♀ I doubt she would do that specially right now that she is on her best era

[@glasstablegcrls]

god forbid these people see 90s-00s janet jackson concert clips

[@aavan2345]

Why do we have the same controversies over and over again 😴

[@KadeSutherland]

Because people love celebs too much😅

[@glasstablegcrls]

because people just 🎶wanna be startin somethin🎶

[@KadeSutherland]

@glasstablegcrls please don't bring MJ into this...Sabrina Carpenter WILL NOT come close

[@watercreamspalace]

@@KadeSutherland You JUST said people love celebs too much and now Sabrina isn’t good enough to reach your favs status?

[@glasstablegcrls]

@@KadeSutherlandwhen did i ever imply that?? lmao i was just saying a lyric from him, this happens to almost every celebrity who doesn’t fit one’s agenda. open the schools. relax my dude

[@NoOne-wt3sv]

Society said the same thing about Rihanna and Britney and Madonna and Donna Summer. Let women makes music and stop upholding some fake morality to shame their art and sexuality. Parents need to go back to being parents and control their kids exposure. “I didn’t sign up to be a role model.” - Rihanna

[@Col_mag]

@@NoOne-wt3sv And when was that exactly?

[@NoOne-wt3sv]

@ whom are you referring to?

[@gladdy02]

If you are relaying on a celebrity to raise your kids and set thier path and morals in life, maybe this whole parenting thing isnt for you

[@briannalaberge]

PERFECTLY SAID!! It’s disgusting that parents want a singer and performer to be their kids morality idol🗣️🗣️‼️‼️

[@MarioLanzas.]

it happened with Britney, it happened with Miley.. this should not be a controversy anymore. it's overdone. girls become women. what a shocker😴

[@jourdonpatron212]

this is like being mad at pornhub, horror movie makers, and mature video game developers because YOUR kids had access to it.

[@chaneladoptsyuh]

real like just limit them from watching it-

[@C12341]

Well to be fair cornhub should have age limitations. Parents can’t control what their kids do realistically

[@chaneladoptsyuh]

@@C12341 they most obviously do and it is banned in some states so yeah... parents should be well aware of SC's concerts and well....

[@Gotakeeverything]

@@chaneladoptsyuhright, they be the same ones giving them iPads and never pay attention to what content their children be on to. Tired of these people 😂

[@whiteroses4sel]

People should be mad at pornhub

[@jazzyjaz9108]

Just because you have kids doesn't mean that the world revolves around you and them. Too bad so sad.

[@the_piano_nerd4960]

Preach. The whiny entitlement from some parents is so annoying

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

The exact moment when we see BDSM escorts being SHOCKINGLY even better parents than actual parents for whatever reason will also the moment parents will be addicted to their hypocrisies

[@ntuthukomdluli-pd9jv]

Nah yall disgusting 😂😂

[@olilondonpavethewayforkpop]

Yikes embarrassing

[@jkaz3604]

Madonna, Britney, Miley, Nicki all had the same stuff coming at them it's just boring at this point. Artists owe you nothing and are not responsible for raising your kids. If you don't like them go listen to something else.

[@nicolevo9261]

And yet nobody says anything about Chris Brown being an abuser and he still have a career despite terrible songs

[@loloppololp9304]

LMAO period​@@nicolevo9261

[@kalibuG]

@@nicolevo9261 stop lieing chris brown always gets backlash for everything he does every video he puts out always has people bringing up the rihanna situation even tho they forgave eachother and even got back together after the situation and chris brown doesn't put out bad music as much as bash him he has talent and sings better than majority of his peers and is consistent in his sound and vocals and they're other artists who did wayyyy more stuff than him or similar but u guys don't constantly bash them, alot of these rappers and actors put hands on their partners male and female but u guys say nothing especially if the abuser is a female cause did everyone forget Megan beat up her boyfriend? but i don't hear people talk about that and she still has a very big career

[@PacBoieatmyheart]

@@jkaz3604 how was Nicki criticized for being a bad influence towards kids?

[@TheBlackPanther05]

Did they NOT listen to the entire SNS album? Sabrina is a 25 year old grown ass woman! If parents decide to take their kids to a Sabrina show with songs like Bed Chem and especially Juno, that's on the PARENTS, not Sabrina.

[@theiceyhawttstunna6631]

Yep they only heard the song “expresso” when they bought the tickets for their kids

[@Humanoid3000]

​@@theiceyhawttstunna6631no it's probably because she lists her tickets as all ages

[@Lewis11195]

you know she’s hit when poeple hate for no reason

[@TheBlackPanther05]

LOL That's how you know she's a main pop girl now! 😂

[@anikamathur02]

Wasn't she a one sided lover to shawn

[@the_piano_nerd4960]

@@anikamathur02happens to the best of us, rip. Sounds like he’s exhibited royal fuckboy behavior to quite a few girls at this point

[@danderson8431]

It’s funny, I didn’t hear much banter about Jungkook singing about “f*cking you 7 days a week” last year. They are aimed more towards kids than she is.

[@elleblur5]

As an army I thought that song was corny as hell.

[@mamamooscake]

​@@elleblur5literally 😭

[@MineralTown]

​@@elleblur5 as not one i thought the clean version was decent and the explicit version is near unlistenable. kpop companies really misinterpret western pop culture and what appeals to them, which i think is what they were trying to do. a fresh male *pop* artist singing about "fucking" you everyday is just icky. bieber wasnt saying all that. 1d and shawn mendes neither. the only non-rappers that can get away with that not being weird are maybe some in rnb, but thats not the audience hes going for ..

[@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq]

the song is unbearable. and the fans are worse

[@olilondonpavethewayforkpop]

It’s corny no hate to him

[@jkirstyn]

Don’t like it? Don’t watch it. Her target audience hasn’t been for kids for a solid 4 years already.

[@sofia_rms]

I'd argue more, her albums mention sex since 2018

[@karlixcontreras]

And it's not like she didn't submitted a literal warning on the album, I mean maybe watch your kids and make sure they don't listen to albums cathering for adults? Maybe...

[@MakaylaWilliams-y3c]

Exactly I was her audience growing up and I'm 21.

[@karlixcontreras]

@@MakaylaWilliams-y3c Me too and I am 23, I mean is obvious Sabrina days as a Disney or children's figure are way over for a while

[@Col_mag]

it's not that her songs are sexual it's just that her songs are trash which of course is a real fact.

[@slay1562]

i love how you summarized the different aspects of the controversy and included the vmas as well as her tour. amazing video as always❤️

[@honestboy]

thank you 💙

[@momlifewithmaria]

Sabrina is for grown women haha she’s not even as vulgar as Sexyy Red, Cardi, Nicki, Megan… Like the music is not for children. Children are not the target audience.

[@zoella2349]

I think she’s just as vulgar lowkey 🙃 there’s not much difference she just sings it in a cutesy way.

[@shaneilellis9832]

Exactly especially her concert.​@@zoella2349

[@Cozylush-ix5qn]

It’s sexual but it isn’t hyper vulgar like the ones mentioned.

[@malisunshine23]

She is just as vulgar. She's just not Black like all the women you just mentioned.

[@ariyuh]

@@malisunshine23Not really. You can't act like Juno is similar at all to WAP, for example. Not everything is about race. Sabrina sings about it covertly. Sexyy Red, Cardi, Megan, and sometimes also Nicki all sing or rap about it more overtly. The difference is that none of those ladies are from Disney channel nor do they present a cutesy appearance, so no one really expects them to act accordingly. Did you forget what happened when Miley Cyrus took off all her clothes and hopped on a wrecking ball, or sang/rapped about drugs? The reception to her change was AWFUL. It is, again, because she was seen as "for kids". Same thing happened with Selena Gomez and many other Disney/Nickelodeon stars.

[@MusicLover-hq3tv]

The same people are the one who let Janet and Britney down.

[@nicolevo9261]

Or Miley Cyrus

[@subwaydaddy]

and guess what? they’re all icons. so this is a great sign for sabrina

[@kaijunasan4497]

Controversy already? I guess it was only a matter of time

[@fl0pZ3]

she already had it with the wholie olivia rodrigo thing

[@Col_mag]

@@kaijunasan4497 Here's the thing: Not all of Sabrina's music is any good at all so she can sexualize it all she wants but she just only trying so hard and she may be a big star now but how long will it last?

[@nnnn-sc2im]

@@user-dn6fw1ss1cshe’s not her aunt is

[@vim2339]

She is also a napo baby

[@Andgiggleslol]

Parents blaming everyone else but themselves.

[@olilondonpavethewayforkpop]

Parents have jobs

[@pInkflqmingo]

@@olilondonpavethewayforkpopyeah like…raising their children

[@otisedwards8827]

I feel like parents need to understand that some songs/artists don't always make kid friendly music. Growing up, listening to radio, I heard songs that weren't kid friendly, but my parents taught me not to cuss or mimic every word of it. And even then, they weren't over the top about, because I feel like they didn't want to seriously limit the music I could listen to.

[@sparrowwilson4514]

Why are people bringing their children to a Sabrina Carpenter concert in the first place when Short’n’Sweet is so overtly sexual of an album. I understand if it’s at Taylor Swift but if you’re bringing them to Sabrina’s concert, without checking the music first, that’s on you. It’s not Sabrina’s job to change her music because you’re too lazy of a parent to actually vet the things you’re exposing your children to. You don’t take your kids to an 18-rated movie and then blame the movie for being too mature for your children. Be a parent and don’t expose your kids to things they’re too young for. It’s your responsibility, no one else’s.

[@Eli0223]

People are so annoying, just like movies there are artists that are 18+. They’d have a heart attack if they heard cupcakke

[@RomeroRomeral]

Literally

[@mcc9475]

Sabrina’s whole shtick shows how the industry traps female artists. To be taken seriously, women are pushed to sell sex while men get to sing about the same stuff fully clothed without having to act it out. That's sad. There's also the issue of the double standard. If a woman of color did the same thing, people would call it “too much”, "vulgar", or “trashy,” (we've seen it happen!) but because Sabrina’s white, petite, and “cute,” it’s all “empowering” and “fun.” On top of that, there’s no depth to it. Real, good art has layers and invites people to think, but Sabrina’s whole persona is made to sell. She’s riding the wave of what’s popular now, and the second it’s not, she’ll pivot to whatever sells next. She's not authentic and not an interesting artist. People are calling her a good example for women and feminism when she’s just reinforcing the same tired storyline we’ve been stuck with for decades.

[@easilyerin]

great comment. and people keep forgetting this is the same girl who DIRECTLY referenced Lolita in a photoshoot, so I refuse to buy this perspective that she’s the victim and people are just being outraged for no reason

[@pInkflqmingo]

⁠@@easilyerinbut the Lolita photoshoot wasn’t her Idea, sure she agreed to be photographed but theirs always someone else behind the camera. + plus I doubt she knows the book exists ngl 😂

[@pInkflqmingo]

must ever good song have a story, just because it won’t be studied in colleges around the globe doesn’t mean its not interesting. People have these same opinions about the literal icons who made the same non-authentic pop sabrina pivoting in. But then again this same trendy pop wins awards so there’s nothing else to say.

[@Ben_levine]

How come only men are allowed to be sexual without hate

[@reannagordon]

Double standards and hypocrisy 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@Col_mag]

@@Ben_levine Her being sexual in her songs is not the problem the real problem is that her songs just sucks sexual yes but not in the same level as Lil Kim, Missy Elliott, J-LO and Mariah Carey

[@olilondonpavethewayforkpop]

Because they aren’t grooming children to be sexual

[@kenyasmith2652]

@@olilondonpavethewayforkpop Really? So you think male artists like R. Kelly is innocent?

[@jessicaseitelman5875]

The more things change the more they stay the same. Her working with Christina Aguilera makes perfect sense. Christina got the same critiques 20 years ago. Keep on being you Sabrina.

[@anikamathur02]

She worked with a bully who bullied Britney Spears

[@Heroliesinyou]

​@@anikamathur02you still on that?😂😂😂 Christina is a different person now. That was 25 years ago.

[@anikamathur02]

@@Heroliesinyou i don't support her i only support Britney

[@rahbeeuh]

​@Heroliesinyou has it been that long ago? 😮 Funny enough Sabrina was barely born 😅

[@anikamathur02]

@@rahbeeuh you should never care about a clown who bully a poor soul like Britney

[@masonmaurer5764]

Sabrina, Chappell, Charli, Tyla, Billie, Clairo, all female artists who released big albums within the past couple years, mainly this year, have all had pretty big success and in a few months, became the source of ridicule and hella criticism.

[@olilondonpavethewayforkpop]

Parents have jobs sorry they aren’t jobless like you to know what is inappropriate

[@Humanoid3000]

Not everything is sexism, I love how that's one of the only things you can defend with 😂

[@sweetieecakee]

These people are complaining about Sabrina on a app where you can find P*rn spam under literally every damn post. Make it make sense.

[@erikm8372]

02:00 First of all, I wanna know the age and gender and demographic and everything of the person making a comment. Sounds like they’ve seen every VMA ceremony in history. Then they would know that the VMAs are actually much tamer nowadays.

[@missqueen8886]

Just because a popstar is colorful, sparkly and feminine, and their sound is soft and bouncy doesn’t mean their music is innocent

[@neeuh]

parents need to realize that the lack of monitoring and paying attention to what your child engages with on the internet is literally their fault. it shows that you’re not actually being a parent by giving your young child unrestricted access to the internet.

[@annab8980]

I wonder why female artists are the only ones who get crucified for making sexual music...hmmm that's a tough one 🙄

[@nicolevo9261]

Because we live in a patriarchal society that dictates women's bodies and sexuality and enforces unrealistic beauty standards and hypocritical double standards on women and girls; the music industry is male-dominated. Taylor Swift's The Man says it all

[@gabrielateca2007]

She's 25y, you slow bruh!!!​@@Col_mag

[@Col_mag]

@@gabrielateca2007 For the record I'm criticizing her that her songs are sexual I'm criticizing her about her style and her music that suck and by the way I'm older and wiser and I know what I'm talking about and if anyone is slow it's just you Loser.

[@mightnotagree9594]

people definitely pick and choose who to judge

[@slay1562]

i‘m sorry but one thing i can’t understand is how people criticize her for not performing „appropriate“ for their children in the audience. have you LISTENED to the album? don’t take your kid to the tour it’s as simple as that.

[@toofarawayy]

If you buy your kids concert tickets WITHOUT LISTENING TO THE ARTIST, or the album it's promoting its fully on you. It's not her doing xyz on stage with children in the audience, it's parents not putting the effort in raising their kids. You don't want them to see things? MONITOR WHAT THEY WATCH

[@thereverbed4119]

this whole situation makes absolutely no sense 😭😭😭take your kids to an amusement park maybe

[@Sean2Fly_]

This is exactly what they did with every pop star girl in the 2000s ( Britney Spears most notably) when are people going to realize RANDOM PPL SHOULD NOT BE ROLE MODELS FOR YOUR KIDS!! I’m so happy to be in a generation that calls parents like this out😭

[@geo9278]

Not someone comparing 2 girls kissing to porn the older generation are honestly ignorant af as if they were any better at her age

[@faizaniftikhar8732]

She's 25. why she's being held responsible for 13 years old children . like dont theses kids and their parents listen to her music before buying tickets?

[@mytruecrimelibrary]

Probably the same parents who try to ban books and Black History in schools.

[@Col_mag]

We call them Church Fanatics.

[@vgueea]

I get sabrina is a grown woman who can do what she wants but couldn't she at least warn people that her concerts aren't kid friendly like that way, it could sprend around to parents

[@olilondonpavethewayforkpop]

Thank you for saying facts

[@Ennaitak]

I've always been torn on issues like this. No. It's not Sabrina Carpenters' (or any celebritys) job to be a role model. However, that still doesn't change the fact that they are to some people. (Kamala Harris spent millions of dollars on celebrity endorsements for that reason) Yet there is a line between sexy and outright trashy. Sabrina seems to be walking that line now. She clearly knows sex sells and is using that to her advantage but when things are too sexual out in the open, not only are they no sexy anymore but people will become desensitized to it. Not even adults want sex thrown in thwir faces all the time. With that being said, parents need to stop letting celebrities and tiktok raise their children. Do your research on what your kids are consuming and put a stop to it if you think it crosses a line. At the end of the day it starts in the home.

[@articulatenaila2437]

As always, an amazing commentary, this time about Sabrina, there are three reasons people feel "uncomfortable" with Sabrina: 1. Sadly, this has to do with a lot of Gen Z being "ultra conservatives", "trad wife/couples" things going out nowadays. 2. Parents thinking that celebs are raising THEIR kids taking no responsibility at all. 3. Misogyny/sexism towards female celebrities, if they write break up songs, it's wrong; it they write glitter gel pen songs, it's wrong; if they write about s*x appeal, it's wrong. People will never be happy. If someone that criticizes her because of any of the points above, touch some grass and if you don't like her then don't listen to her or listen de clean versions, it's not that hard!

[@kenancatovic598]

They are just as insufferable as boomers and gatekeeping classic pop,rap or rock fans!

[@nicolevo9261]

And I still don't get why these parents are even parents in the first place when they can't parent their own children

[@articulatenaila2437]

@ exactlyyyy

[@articulatenaila2437]

@@kenancatovic598 sadly thats the truth

[@Mangafrita533]

completely agree with you. The hypersexualization discussion is interesting but has nothing to do with this case, people are just looking for something to be mad about

[@plushierooz44]

These adults say all this shit, yet they're the EXACT same ones who gave in to their kids bugging them to buy tickets. And I BET they haven't even listened to one song from this album! Short N Sweet isn't exactly squeaky clean.

[@plushierooz44]

These artists (let ALONE pop stars), don't know you, probably dont give one FUCK about you! And aren't responsible for YOU raising YOUR kids!

[@plushierooz44]

Not that they HAVE to listen to her, if they don't that's fine. But fucking hell, at least listen to one song from that new album before you consider buying tickets to go to her tour.

[@favourabiyah596]

Although it is her choice to be sexual, however, we really need to ask the question "why the need for so much sexuality?", "where does this end?" EVERYTHING is sexual, even school uniforms and healthcare fits have been sexualized. Just because we have free will doesn't mean we should go wild. Good, cute music can still be made without sexual exposure. Sexualization of things is very much unnecessary.

[@garyfox7558]

Because it is still the easiest way to make money.

[@criminalmindsgirl2936]

I'm already over these music artists trying too hard to be sexy. At this point, it seems to be getting more attention than their actual music. Sad but true. Even Miley Cyrus had to learn the hard way. Not everything has to be over sexualized. And if parents don't like it. Then don't take your child to her concerts. Maybe pay more attention to who your child listens to

[@Col_mag]

Exactly and her fans are such hypocrites for defending her beauty boring ass.

[@uswawaqar987]

what? like if u dont like an artist then dont listen to them! she 25 for god's sake!!! she can sing about sex how much she wants

[@Col_mag]

@@uswawaqar987 True but her music is trash though and it's exactly what teens love nowadays.

[@user-uu5dd5jj2k]

Livid much

[@mistmaraj]

Sabrina is literally a grown woman, it is not her responsibility to be a role model for children! That is the PARENT'S job! Also most of her fanbase that she had during her Disney channel days has likely grown up as well so that's another reason why that critique does not make sense at all.

[@leaf111]

i agree with you but i also do feel like her concert should have some age limit, maybe not necessarily 18+ but at least like 14-16+. obviously it's on the parents too but we all know bad parents are everywhere and age limits at events exist for that reason and should absolutely be put in place for a show with simulated sex scenes. also some of the stuff she has done and said (the recent lolita cosplay photoshoot and other references to it, talking to a little child in the pre-juno scene then doing the same bit and lines about her clothes falling off cause she's so turned on not, the niña and bbc nonsense outros, the whole juno song and more) is really gross, for those things it's not about how 18+ it is it's just morally reprehensible but most of her fans ignore all valid criticism and instead focus on the weird conservative criticisms because they're easier to defend against, and most stans (in general of all celebrities) would rather defend and ignore all criticism to their faves instead of just admitting they're a bit problematic and holding them accountable. we really need to focus more on her pdf baiting

I love that she's so unbothered and is going even harder with all of it. It makes me less bugged by the criticism to know she doesn't give a F.

[@topotondo828]

So boys can grow out of the Disney channel-era but girls cannot? Who is criticizing Jake Paul for all the bad things he's done? He is a former Disney star who does have a young audience that he is aware of and has outright exploited. It's almost like we don't want girls to become women who have bodily autonomy and power...

[@MineralTown]

i didnt know jake was a disney star but either way he has a whole bunch of people hating on him all the time, i just saw someone wishing death on him lmao. most people, like me, who dislike him dont bother to mention him unprovoked because hes so obviously bottom of the barrel its a waste of energy. the only male disney stars outside of like shia labeof & zac efron who are still notable outside of the disney days are the jonas brothers. who keep it plain. at least from my pov they just stand their in tshirts in jeans. idk if their lyrics are as sexual as hers and neither is a crime if so but comparing male artists image to womens is just never gonna hold any weight. women are showing off to be sexually appealing, men are existing

[@AnthonyPompa]

I see a lot of people talking about “it’s a parent issue, not Sabrina’s” I would normally agree if it wasn’t for her being pushed everywhere. She’s unescapable especially online. TikTok pushes her to every and any age group.

[@smiledude1538]

I cant believe people still having a problem towards adult artist making adult songs 😐

[@soupyweb]

tale as old as time, when will people realize they are just repeating cycles

[@shaneilellis9832]

Aha

[@olilondonpavethewayforkpop]

And we all hated seeing children being hurt for decades

[@shaneilellis9832]

@@soupyweb yeah that's why cycle don't break because people are fail to acknowledge that they're repeating it, they are clueless.

[@pInkflqmingo]

@@olilondonpavethewayforkpop* woman being hurt, though the kids are not fine with the parents they have.

[@YouStankGoEat]

I do miss back then where artists can be sexy without doing full on sex positions on stage like what's next ACTUAL Sex on stage? 😅

[@slay1562]

carpenters hereeee

[@Col_mag]

@@slay1562 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@minion789]

Let the WOMAN live.

[@MC_aigorithm]

it has never been the responsibility of pop stars to be role models... people need to get this out of their head

[@Col_mag]

@@MC_aigorithm True but it is the responsibility of pop stars to do better with their music and if Sabrina wants to be sexual with her music and be a better artist then maybe she needs to start taking notes from the likes of Mariah Carey, Nicki Minaj, Cardi B, Missy Elliott, Lil Kim and Mya then maybe she just might learn something.

[@MC_aigorithm]

@@Col_mag these people have all literally made music and media that is sexualized like waaat

[@pInkflqmingo]

@@Col_magwhy only mention black woman?

[@Col_mag]

@@pInkflqmingo Here's a question: Why do you love Sabrina Carpenter?

[@plantswithjoshua]

Yet another example of misogyny. When male artists are sexual its "hot" and "attractive", when female artists do it its "inappropriate" and "disgusting".

[@maddiemaccheese8170]

We live in such a strange culture where sex is everywhere and everyone is so prudish about it. The older VMA performances outlined here are not the only example of "sexy" content everywhere. Hell, PG movies could show frontal nudity for decades and now PG is designated for kids films almost exclusively. You see sex positivity everywhere online, not to mention all the OF models out there, and yet there's significantly less sexual content shown in movies and on TV now than there ever was. Literally all of Sabrina's provocative performances would have been TAME a few decades ago, so what's changed here? Also I see all this backlash as another example of parents who refuse to do any research on what their kids are consuming and then get mad when they realize that content is for adults. Like... maybe don't take your kids to a Sabrina Carpenter show if you think she's so inappropriate??? It's not rocket science.

[@myfuneralismytimetoshine]

What about raising your children and being the strongest role model in their lives instead of expecting celebrities to do anything for you? You can be more involved in your child's life and download the clean version of their favourite songs. It is not that hard, and it is actually one of the most fun parts of parenting, sharing music, and culture.

[@dashiajames1882]

Good afternoon: Ummm since when have the VMAs been a clean show..?? SC is a grown woman, she's not a little girl. Little girl Disney days are gone. If any parent is gonna take their kid to see SC, check her music 1st. Would be the most obvious thing. The exact same thing happened to Olivia Rodrigo. Sabrina never said she only wrote clean version songz. Sabrina is no where near, responsible for raising ppl kids. It's all the parents fault. No one else's. I don't even know why some ppl even think she is. She's a adult making adult music 🎶..!! Women are always getting some kinda backlash, about something. And I hate how we always get talk about & criticized. While men get a easy pass. Like they did nothing wrong. Great video Honest & Have a nice day 😊 🙂

[@ezeei9832]

Not everyone doesnt like her just because she performs this stuff in front of children. Some of us are just tired of the fact that everything has to be so overly sexualised

[@mytruecrimelibrary]

Then they can listen to literally anyone else. 🤷‍♀️

[@muskaan3711]

Then just don't listen or watch her content. No one's forcing you to.

[@ruethseamson3228]

Why is it that humanity as a whole hates the one thing that gives us life?!! Sex is not a bad thing, feeling sexy isn't , being sexual isn't . Using the word 'over' and attaching it to sex is beyond confusing in this context. When we are young we talk about castles, toys, dress, prince and princesses, as we get older the thoughts shift and for those that want to, their thoughts align in a sexual nature. Because God forbid if Adam had sex with Eve; instead, he just stare at her from afar and boom! Eve is pregnant. Wow.

[@JmmieBckwds]

The sexualization (of literally everything) for attention and online traffic does get tiring though. I get where they are coming from. That’s capitalism, if it turns heads, it opens wallets, and that’s the #1 incentive.

[@nunyuh7102]

it's almost like they never listened to her album.

[@Capibaracapibara1992]

gen z are becoming so conservative!

[@kenancatovic598]

They should listen to Tom Mc Donalds!

[@ameria_eve]

I hate that it’s usually the women who have to cater to a younger audience all the time, like she’s an adult, let her be an adult

[@maymayyyy]

aint no way they be saying a KISS is inappropriate........ 😂😂😂😂

[@rahbeeuh]

Disney logic 😂

[@maymayyyy]

@rahbeeuh those people are insaaaaaaaaane

[@randomnoodleonline]

The "Seeing two women kiss is inappropriate" comment boggled my mind, personally💀

[@Col_mag]

@@maymayyyy That alien kiss was Lousy not inappropriate.

[@retro_tcb]

idk I never liked any of her songs, Im all for her to be able to make what she wants but for me her sexual songs are just taccy imo. Truly romantic songs arent so straight foward w the lyrics, if u get what I mean.

[@pinksquid4157]

Personally I feel like it’s kinda corny & not sexy but idk what there is to be mad about. Like just don’t interact with her music then.

[@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq]

I feel the same. Maybe that's what the criticism is about, not about bringing kids to the show. Maybe the grown ups themselves feel uncomfortable watching it or its just too sexual. Especially the Juno positions. Its corny & cringe

[@sophtbat]

​​​@@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dqI agree. I'd been following Sabrina's music casually before she got big, and she had sensual songs but they felt 'natural'- if that makes any sense? Whereas the short and sweet album feels like a very exaggerated, almost cartoonish caricature. The elephant in the room to me is that when she switched to a new overly- horny persona, that inevitably played a part in her success, because of course sex sells. And I think it's valid for people to have an issue with that, or at least for there to be a conversation about it. Saying that, parents ultimately have a responsibility over what their kids listen to, not Sabrina. Edit: spelling mistakes lol

[@black.sasuke.uchiha]

2:51 did she… Did she just say “two women kissing?” She singled that out specifically as if it’s one of the key things she doesn’t like, like as a non-straight guy I’m just like, what the heck?😅

[@rach-cv552]

2 women kissing!!!111!!!1111!1111😱😱😱😱 all jokes aside, glad someone else pointed that out. there's like this weird, subtle h0mophobia.

[@sparklexnia]

I’ll take their tickets happily.

[@Beebeetwiste24]

Same

[@LadyHoney214]

OMG I'm so early! Love your vids @Honest and, the tone of your voice is wonderful! Peace and love, keep up the great work boo boo🥰

[@honestboy]

thank you for the support. much love 💙

[@Yoyozworld19]

It’s odd how a segment of gen z is very conservative and prudish about sex. For a generation that is so liberated, it’s weird.

[@BroJo676]

People talk liberated on social media but when it comes to it, people are prudish. And it’s not a bad thing.

[@positivelyaggressive5033]

I hate when parents don’t take accountability for being bad at their job

[@TrishJansen-iz1tm]

An adult artist singing doesn’t and shouldn’t have anything to do with sex. Leave your sex for the bedroom. Those supporting sex in performances are the problem with our society and our children. Just stop it already.

[@Chuu_Vault]

I have only thought regarding this whole thing: Alexa, play Sue Me by Sabrina Carpenter

[@queenofthenight3518]

Can we leave the children out of the conversation for the moment? Yeah it isn’t for children, but it isn’t for some Adults either. It isn’t about growing Up; looking at erotic/pornographic stuff is a choice, and pressuring someone to just stick with it or get use to because thats the Music of today is just low low and disgusting. There are people who come to the concert for Music, not burlesque performance, porn hub or Soft porn play. There are Adult who do not like nor chose to go to concerts that are explicit like Cardi’s for example. Being sex positive doesn’t equal being vulgar (Sabrina called herself that literally so before anybody comes for me, she giggles when people give her very not Pg nick names). There were many singers that were in touch with their sexuality/indentity yet never straight Up x rated. Christina,Britney,Cher,2pac,Prince,Ciara,Lady Gaga and many others were Sultry,sesual,vibrant and controversial but never performed sex acts (dancing is not a sex act) like actual copulation on stage like Carpenter did (3some,bj,camasutra positions etc.). Also all of these people were controversial but never tried to hide their lack of talent by sex or nudity. They were amazing musicians,dancers,producers,singers and their Music was selling because they were phenomenal at being musicians. If people just sell sex and Music is just a backround noise to push it forward then why they don’t become Adult actresses? Or perform shows for adults? Nobody held gun to their head telling them to be in Music business when their main focus/message is not Music nor what is pushing their career. And before any of you come for me, i knew and liked Sabrina before you all even know who she is and yes from Music side not Disney. Thumbs and Fast times are amazing songs, Thumbs lyrics in my opinion are one of the most timeless and well written ever. I didn’t hear much about her until Olivia and Joshua controversy and since then Sabrina slightly turned in a different way. She has been doing radio pop for years,she has been doing Music for a long time so why it isn’t successful as the recent one when it is the same? Because of drama. And that is just low. Like girl if you can sing, show it. It makes me sad a little that women still get to the narrative that the only way to gain approval in their Music is to literally go explicit/shady or using other people. Women been Vocal and trying to get rid of the sexual Label Music industry and media gave them that was overshadowing their hard work.The church controversy,the lipsync,the Shawn Camila thing,her vile comments about how she is the reason people fail (the NYC mayor, Catholic preacher,Camila,Olivia,Joshua); everything made in shady, insulting mean way and it worked! Coz if nothing sold sex always will and drama for sure. I love good controversy, but like Cher herself said one time-if the chick comes out naked and sings on stage, i get it i support you 100%; my issue is that it wasn’t good”. Miley had Bangerz era where she was performing using genitalia etc. but she grew out of it and evolved as an artist,realising that controversy will never beat her Flower era or Plastic Hears (which i loooved); she always was a hidden gem, also Gaga is an amazing example how to be proud Queer woman but she serves vocals and is an amazing pianist. Her Judas song and video is Genius and it worked,but people recognise the difference and it happened to Lil Nas X who attempted to use another religion controversy with a come back single J Christ but flopped because the songs were just nothing that could support the usage of religous shock value. Comming to an end,parents should know but its not a hate statement to call her shows disturbing to certain viewers (Carpenter herself gave that disclaimer on her taste video an PAEC sticker on her album so why not concerts, short for sure,short on money? Maybe.) she did EICS and she didn’t performe any sexual acts on stage during that time so its truly an honest question, what changed? She was grown then? Is sex really the last option to jump into fame? Honest question…

[@PacBoieatmyheart]

@@queenofthenight3518 honey, your comment is too long. Put it in short words please 🙏🏻😅

[@lesleyvalencia6222]

They always do this to women but not men.

[@user-dn6fw1ss1c]

Men should absolutely get the same criticism. Equally, I don't think it makes the case for Sabrina better.

[@kenyasmith2652]

@@user-dn6fw1ss1c So when are we going to start criticizing men?

[@Poppinswevtie]

They did the same with Olivia, these Disney stars are GROWN now! People need to realize that, yes they’re going to be more risqué and talk about sex because guess what… sex happens the older you get. Hell, they bashed beyonce for it and she was in her thirties at that point 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@Birdyboys]

Is no one going to mention how incredibly homophobic “two women kissing is porn” is?

[@SideEyeee_]

I don’t think it’s Sabrina personally but it’s just that EVERYTHING is sexual and she does sexual songs/things and people are tired.

[@ivanmagnusmartinez78]

She's not the only pop artist ??? There are literally tons of other artists/singers out there, no one's forcing you to listen to Sabrina Carpenter.

[@muskaan3711]

Everything?? It's literally just juno and bed chem. Only female popstars get this criticism.

[@Lifegoeson232-f3t]

It’s these crybaby parents who didn’t do research before buying their kids tickets are the reason I couldn’t get any.

[@RomaroBrandon]

Sabrina Carpenter is doing the same thing other female artists have done in the past/present around her age. I don't think it's a problem because she's an adult and her music is for adults young and old. Sabrina Carpenter isn't using her music to hurt anyone.

[@OffTom5783]

Her shows should be rated R, so she doesn't get money from children. If she makes adult music, let only adults buy her tickets.

[@Jocelyn_Herrick]

Why do people think that Celebrities are supposed to be raising their kids? Celebrities are supposed to entertain us and create art. I don’t see girls being sexual bad. Sex is natural. In my opinion.

[@fanfandd23]

A tale as old as time. Literally. Adult Pop stars shouldn’t be raising your children. A parent should be able to determine the music a child should listen to ,not the adult pop star changing their artistry because of a parent’s lack of parental boundaries.

[@toxiczombiewolf5692]

They always complain when its a female former Disney star people are soft af. Parents check lyrics.

[@ro-zeea.8734]

LOL she's criticized for what now? 😂😂 oh the lazy parenting.