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#thecompletionist

[@tkbfash2]

The problem is, if this story never came out, no one would still know where the money went or that it's still sitting in an account.

[@fluidwolf]

Tmk he flat out admitted that it only got donated now because of the investigation. It very possibly would still be sitting there otherwise and almost no one would know because most people don't really look into those things and just trust people to do what they say

[@condor237]

@@fluidwolfodds are he would’ve slowly ramped it down and then never donated a cent. Pocketed it all once everyone forgot

[@superstd]

it took a couple of youtuber to finally finished that 10 years of finding where to donate 😂such magic .

[@sniperfi4532]

Personally I don’t even think the money was there at all just on paper. $600k that was donated is less than the total that was in the account. The golf money is still missing as well as merch, bits and things from the live events. Charity needs a full audit.

[@John-nu8gx]

As someone who's own mother passed away this year this dude was grossly negligent. He lied about being a partner with several foundations for years, all while boosting his KZbin channel and media presence

[@merphul]

Jirard angrily ranting "KZbinrs need to be held accountable!!". Bro... that literally just happened to you. Maybe let someone else make that argument this time.

[@1faithchick7]

I thought the exact same thing. Bro is the KZbinr being held accountable and he's throwing a fit about it.

[@borachon26]

I love it how Jirard claims they took so long because they didn't want the money to be used for admin fees by the charities, yet his family foundation used people's donations for.... Their admin fees! 🤦🏻‍♂️🤡😂

[@johnwhitfield3547]

After also claiming that ALL money was going to charity. They said they weren't taking a cent. Lie after lie.

[@hungrierforcontent]

I’m not on either side but, the admins have jobs so they have to be paid something. So it is fair to say what he had about it not wanting the money to go to admin fees, as likely his intention is for it to be focused on research instead of admin, as he cannot conduct research. Whitest your response shows a lack of understanding of employment.

[@TheFrev]

@@johnwhitfield3547 All the money does go to charity. It just so happens to be the Open Hand Foundation and that charity has spent 10 years not doing anything with the money raised. Just like "We are working with this charity" means they have sent them an email at some point. Jirard has been caught in lies at the start as well as lies in his apology. Him trying to paint Karl and Muta as villains when they took the kindest take about this is vile. Muta called out Dextero for a article that claimed Jirard stole the money and got it taken down.

[@hungrierforcontent]

I know it sounds like I’m biased but it’s common sense as the alternative was no wage at all

[@hungrierforcontent]

Which is illegal

[@SleepySuperhero]

Karl and Muta showed evidence and made speculations. Jerard admitted he did do some stuff wrong. Jerard has no right to be angry with anyone but himself.

[@blaztncruze]

Who tf is Muta, ain’t nobody on here named Muta

[@AzureDemonicGod]

@@blaztncruze SomeOrdinaryGamer

[@TankZappa]

@@blaztncruze How did you get this far into this drama without knowing who Muta is? That's actually kind of amazing. His name was literally mentioned multiple times in the first 31 seconds of this video lolol. And this entire video is about Muta and Karl's investigation. For example 0:29

[@Flubbadon]

Very fair.

[@blaztncruze]

@@TankZappa his name is Mutahar not Muta, reject. Which is my whole point, but thanks for the novel sis

[@DangericeDreams]

I mean honestly. I never would have imagined The Completionist to be someone who would so excitedly talk about his family’s charity, even while realizing that none of that money was being donated to charity all those years.

[@gorpazorp7309]

you really went out of your way to say nothing, americans are wildly incompetent

[@borachon26]

The fact he named charities they had "worked with" or "donated to" or were the "main donation partners" for, even though he knew for a fact they weren't, means his righteous indignation in this video is embarrassing.

[@shadowarez1337]

Or was the [Main Funding Source] how can you be a main funding source with $0 🤔 I'm no Financial Guru but I'm sure you can't be a main source with $0

[@vegasvanga5442]

Mrs. Khalil is vomiting in heaven.

[@gorpazorp7309]

@@shadowarez1337how do people expect to take you seriously when you cant form a concise thought properly

[@Nfnf889]

No idea why he provided his mom’s autopsy. No one absolutely no one was questioning the validity of that. It’s like he wanted to get sympathy in the video

[@enthiegavoir5955]

Saw someone else point this out, but it's funny that Karl was part of the coverage, since a common thing he shows speedrun cheaters do is confess to a different issue instead of addressing the main one.

[@tokin420nchokin]

Maybe to prove she had the illness.. but I agree prob sympathy.

[@notleoso]

That's not the point. He claimed he worked with the researchers in the past, and people assumed he was talking about donating money. But he was talking about he donated his moms body to the charity, that's why it was brought up

[@arena_sniper7869]

It was a response to Karl’s confusion about a body donation when he first emailed the charity about the tax filings. Even then Karl speculated that it was the mom.

[@captaincrunch1707]

@@notleosoexactly this ! The foundation website was intentionally misleading by implying the gift(mom’s organs) was donated money. It was not money but instead it was her organs. Unbelievably shady to lie on their own foundation website 🤣

[@SleepySuperhero]

The part of his apology where he explained his impetus to make a charity and his mother illness was entirely unnecessary, almost completely sad fishing before admitting he duped his donors.

[@marthastewwart]

He also published her death certificate/ autopsy report thing. So he could PROVE she is dead. Is that not odd ? It's got me wondering now thinking she's not dead.

[@deathkorpsofkriegguardsmen8488]

@@marthastewwartit was odd to me as well since no one doubted him when he talked about his mothers death nor cause of death like that was not the topic of discourse and yet he made the autopsy public

[@Tamaki742]

​@@deathkorpsofkriegguardsmen8488Yea if anything, most people are more concerned that he'd been capitalizing on his mother's passing, because yknow, that's scummy to do.

[@docbenway1082]

​@@deathkorpsofkriegguardsmen8488I think he is absolutely in the wrong with pretty much all of this, but there were multiple comments with hundreds of likes on the last video before his "response" saying that he may have made up his mother having dementia as part of the scam

[@lettersnstuff]

@@marthastewwartI think he was trying to prove they’d donated her body for dementia research, which, again, like, nobody doubted that part, that’s got nothing to do with anything, kinda feels manipulative

[@mage1454]

The moment he threatened Muta and Karl. He lost all respect they called him out with concrete evidence and instead of owning it he lashes out. Absolutely pathetic.

[@greasygrass39]

it just proved that he was mad he got caught and not because he's sorry for not donating the money.

[@dsan17]

And there's still the question of "Would it have been donated if the accusations didn't happen?".

[@luluna5228]

Not only did he own up to what he did, he also threatened lawsuit against them for slandering him ( saying he’s hiding from the irs because of him embezzling money from the golf tournament)

[@noeljimenez7624]

I didn’t watch his video but I watched Mute’s video and Jirard came with absolutely zero receipts to prove his point. Karl and Muta’s video were nothing but receipts!

[@johnsnow8041]

Definitely seems like a bad move threatening law suit. When dude is only one to blame for lying and profiting off it. Going sue mode is only going to make more people mad at him.

[@sillycookie]

Jirard has no reason to be making threats and huffing and puffing like that. He got caught and no amount of pouting or threats is gonna retract that from public memory.

[@nolife6013]

Plus Karl already has his own legal team which he is using to fight the ongoing lawsuit with Billy Mitchell.

[@harambememorialpage]

He still gained tax benefits for 10 whole years.

[@mechanicalfluff]

"...allegations about our charitable organization" We donated to charity... once.. you know.. last week... over 10+ years of collecting

[@jack90054]

AFTER getting publically called out for it too

[@Akursedtime]

So we have to thank Muta and Karl for the donation.

[@user-hb7py7xy7b]

Guys managed to raise 600k $ for charity in 3 weeks.

[@JustOccult]

accurate

[@JustOccult]

They gotta be on the leaderboard for speedrunning that@@user-hb7py7xy7b

[@australisborealispolaris477]

The true G's in the story.

[@alfiesmullet1311]

KARL MVP! Does he get a speed run record for charity fraud exposure?

[@mf-il4po]

it's not drama. it's criminal activity.

[@Azeathe]

It really feels like both at this point, given.. Twitter.

[@squibbelsmcjohnson]

Almost as if they need to be reported.... Although they did actually do something(when exposed) only after a decade 😂😂.. But still

[@1Beastieee]

Yeah drama is like KZbin boxing, this is actual fraud going on

[@PBEcotaku]

@@Azeathe Its potential crimes, but Jirard is turning it into drama because he can't handle being called out and wants to engage in frivolous lawsuits.

[@KawaiiAzusa]

It is definitely both. Let's be real, how many people are really affected by what Jirard told his audience compared to the number of people who participate in this conversation? Probably between 1 and 5%. So for 95%+ of people this is drama. Look at clickbait articles, all kinds of KZbinrs covering it, reddit and twitter meltdowns, harassment etc etc. Illegal or not, this is drama, regardless of what Mutahar believes what it is or tells you what it is.

[@TheGreatFoxDeity]

The fact that he admitted knowing the money hadn't gone anywhere in 2022 and then went on to lie about having worked with charities again in November, just a few weeks ago, proves to me that jerard is not genuine and there may even be more he's lying about

[@fluidwolf]

That and how instantly defensive he got when first talked to about things(like with trying to instantly declare it as clout chasing) makes it seem like there is something more to it or he is really really only caring about how this effects his reputation rather than making things right.

[@ry2950]

Jirards implication of wanting to sue the two individuals that brought their failure to light shows that he cared more about his image as a content creator than doing the right thing. I guarantee that if Jirard said in his response video that he doesn't hate them for investigating (even if it was a lie) that it would have resulted in far less backlash. It was a poor decision to imply aggression against his critics when they provided legitimate evidence/receipts for his gross incompetence. The second wave of backlash he is getting for that maneuver is 100% justified. With that being said I do respect oompaville's take that people should watch both videos then formulate their own opinion even despite acknowledging a more personal connection/bias towards Muta's side.

[@drhouse6165]

This is 100% the kind of thing to sue someone for. He's allowed to stand up for himself.

[@leadscollector]

​@@drhouse6165thinking you didn't watch the videos then... They never call him a fraudster. They show the legally submitted paperwork for the foundation and ask, where's the money gone. Jirard then has confirmed the money didn't move for a decade. He's liable. He did exactly what they said he did and confirmed it. Yeh, you don't sue for that, you take the L and let the investigation show if it was error, or malace.

[@superstd]

yeah, if he said he was being a massive idiot / apologized for mismanaging other people money and all his lies in his show claiming that he donated when he didnt (fraud), then most people would probably be more understanding.

[@augistry5439]

@@drhouse6165 smooth brained take, he would lose in any court with two brain cells to rub together

[@Tanrna]

​@@leadscollector Even if they called him a fraud they're within their right because he is. Saying you work with an organisation while you're not and that's where the money is going is charity fraud. He did fraud so he is a fraudster.

[@moonmartini2256]

I hate the fact that people keep referring to this as drama, like it's some sort of overblown situation and gossip story that doesn't even matter

[@seagullman87]

The issue with Jirad's defense is that, even though a donation has been made, that was to only a single charity. During the decade he ran IndieLand, several different charities were mentioned during the stream, none of them except the one having received anything from OpenHand still. If he really is serious about making things right, he needs to make donations to those other places as well.

[@thefinalboss2403]

He also should go to jail.

[@jesuszamora6949]

@@thefinalboss2403 Who knows about jail, but I imagine his KZbin career is over.

[@LackLusterMedia]

He should have just said he forgot.... cause dementia and stuff.

[@Naptosis]

Plausible deniability. 👍

[@NGLAnimations]

Best comment.

[@sevensins3584]

Yeah maybe the money SHOULD go to him 😂

[@JK-gm6kk]

Rimshot

[@apensalesman]

LackLuster PLEASE. Genius 😂💀

[@AScribblingTurtle]

The problem is, that the Complitionist did not disclose, that the money was held back for one huge restricted donation. Instead, He made claims to have helped so many different organizations already. Leading people to believe, that the money would be passed on. In reality, the money would only go to one organization only after he was pressured and after it degraded/rotted in an account for a decade. People would have been better off sending that money directly to the organizations, that Jirard claimed to have worked with. In this Discord call, he told a different story, than what his public response tells. He claims to have found out only years later about the money being held back, but now he is acting as if this was the huge plan from the beginning. If it was, why did he not disclose that? As for his Mom, it is sad, that he uses her name to keep earning trust and sympathy for an operation, that nobody should trust.

[@baddragonite]

For perspective, due to inflation $600,000 today was worth about $790,835.22 in 2013 or $733,673.69 in 2018 or $711,834.50 since 2020 basically him sitting on the money caused it to lose TONS of value

[@jlo1195]

toilet paper value

[@Sinistra359]

Also 10 years of potential research that could've benefitted from the donations down the drain.

[@teeman7137]

Just imagine the people with demancia he could have help in 10 years. He doesnt even have to give to research if he thinks its a waste

[@ard-net2999]

Not defending him and it has lost value, just not that much. There wasn't 600k there 10y ago, also not been quite 10y. The worst part of it is had they put it in a savings account which non-profits can do it would not have lost so much value.

[@baddragonite]

@@ard-net2999 True. That's why I included the other years as well, because I'm not sure how much was there at what times, I know they said some of the attendance for the golf stuff dropped off around 2020 tho, and I think the biggest years for indieland were pre 2020, so I went up to that year, that said even if it was just all there in 2021 it went from a value of 679,892.98 to 600k

[@Jeterfan906]

He literally admitted to charity fraud in those calls. The literal definition of charity fraud was broken by him since at least 2022

[@apensalesman]

I just dislike how in his interview he told them he had no idea that none of it had been donated until 2022. And then his response video is that it was actually a 300IQ plan to make a big restricted donation and those take time? Like he already admitted to his gross negligence on recording. Why not stick to the same story, admit fault, and donate?

[@Jeterfan906]

@@apensalesmanBecause he’s a scumbag. He’s literally mad they made him donate money he was suppose to donate to charity. He just neglects all the charities he’s mentioned he didn’t give a cent to. Not to mention all the missing golf event and stream money that came in that just seems to have vanished

[@vangoghsseveredear]

​@@apensalesmanthat's a great point. That pretty much completely invalidates his lie that he had no idea.

[@baked7423]

@@apensalesman I guess he means his family was the one who was doing that and he got mad in 2022 cuz he thought they werent taking it seriously or something

[@Lazrael32]

he had made the restricted claim (i think in the interview) before too. i called it out pretty quickly. i was like... wait... either you knew or you didn't. 0.o @@apensalesman

[@bcsxyz]

It's been hard for 10 years to donate the charity money, but now all of a sudden became very easy to donate THE WHOLE BAG in a few days. how convenient

[@bdhale34]

Wasn't even the whole bag before whatever they raised this year, 60k of reported money was still held and there's this years fund raising and many many years of golf charity events that were under-reported as well, the charity expenses don't even come close to covering the golf sponsorship income, the books were cooked and cooked very very badly, dude belongs in prison Willie Nelson had to go for taxes and so did Wesley Snipes and both of them are far more famous and useful to society than the con-pletionist ever could be.

[@chillphrog]

The can basically be summed up to “My mother had dementia, so none of this is my fault and you should pity me. Those people that spend days researching and solving fraud are the real bad guys. I only donated the money because I got caught.”

[@charizard4410]

I think that the IRS not investigating a nonprofit that hasn't made a donation in a decade says a lot about their fraud detection.

[@kramkrum3672]

Who wants to bet that this isn't the first time this has happened? I bet that plenty of big name KZbinrs have taken advantage of charity to get to where they are. I'd even argue that someone is helping them avoid getting caught, too.

[@jaredfait4280]

True, but they only have as much manpower as congress allows them.

[@gorpazorp7309]

it doesnt say alot, the history of corruption does tho

[@Joseph-fs5kk]

The IRS is intentionally underfunded and understaffed so rich people can hide their money

[@mainhalo117]

It depends on how the org is actually registered. For example the creator clash event propped itself up as a non profit event yet it wasn’t actually registered as non profit thus it didn’t need to follow the non profit rules.

[@EvEnMoR]

As much as I admire oompas eternal optimism and visible discomfort from the tension and drama of this scenario, I feel it is worth mentioning that there's still relatively large sums of money unaccounted for...even the original amount was actually just short of 660k up to 2022....there's the rest of that after the $600k donation as well as this years revenue, multiple years of under reporting when it comes to expenses, subs, memberships, bits, etc...there's also multiple fundraising golf tournaments which occurred that had major high level sponsors and donors accumulating tens(likely hundreds) of thousands over the years ...and all of that is separate and still unaccounted for....people should be aware of that but also know that it is now up to the proper authorities such as the IRS to locate this money... As a former fan of Jirard and someone who donated more than once, I sincerely hope they do and it gets where we all were promised years ago....I'm also very grateful that Muta and Karl did what they did cuz clearly the donated amount would still be zero if not for them.

[@TezzyRs]

i have since changed my mind, and the guy is a total fraud and looser sorry.

[@ruslinis1396]

@@TezzyRs The last audit was in 2014 or 2016, can't remember 100%, and Muta said it's all G up to that, but afterwards is the unknown part.

[@Giozize]

@@ruslinis1396an audit in 2016 of the 2014 tax filings, so both technically

[@VyperByteX]

@@TezzyRs No. even if their paperwork checks out, that doesn't clear them of fraud. You are not allowed to lie to people to try increase donations, that too is fraud. The money doesn't have to be stolen. You can not mislead people by name dropping other charities and implying the money is going to them, and you are "one of their top donors" when in fact you have not given them a single penny, and have no relationship with them at all. This is not the type of thing that would get flagged in paperwork. It would take an active investigation to find it, and they don't have so much free time they do that without a reason.

[@alan-daniel]

@@TezzyRs that audit that already happened doesn't mean very much, to be fair. The charity itself only become an actual registered non-profit in 2014. The audit was of the 2014 tax filings. I'm not saying there was any wrongdoing or anything, just that using the audit that already happened as any sort of evidence for how the charity operates is a bit of a reach.

[@enthiegavoir5955]

I really hope the face of Jirard scrunching his brow together to look scary becomes a meme, imagine your legacy is a cringey image people use to mock caught scammers

[@chivshivers7204]

If Muta and Karl never found out about this, the money would have NEVER been donated. Jerard planned on keeping it. It's that simple.

[@AzureRoxe]

And even if he didn't, what was the plan? To reach the million dollar mark before revealing himself that he never donated anything for 10 years in order to do this one massive donation?

[@squibbelsmcjohnson]

Or try and invest or grow but thats not how that works.. People donate for you to do what you say you're gonna do , not gamble with peoples money..

[@condor237]

@@AzureRoxehe wasn’t going to keep it. He under reported to the IRS. He’s skimming, cash cow

[@EighmyLupin]

He's been skimming off the top this whole time. If you look at all the money that SHOULD have been in the bank only about half is in that bank

[@HL1_]

you can read his mind?

[@JaePlay]

If for any reason Jirard does something criminal against Mutahar, KZbin would say "well there was fault on BOTH sides tbf"

[@aR0ttenBANANA]

Ah yes, the KZbin-Jacksfilms defense

[@EighmyLupin]

Nah they are both brown and both men so no clear side to take for youtube.

[@jackarack5528]

Not if Mutahar identifies as a woman. 😊

[@JaePlay]

@@jackarack5528 KZbin doesnt actively stand for women, instead they actively look for the worst possible stance to take.

[@WokioWolfy]

​@@JaePlaynot really, they mostly stand with money, but whenever the takes are justified they'll blame both ends to save face.

[@johnschaeffer7008]

It really isnt a decent response. Its a terrible apology that makes him look worse and he absolutely is being manipulative and gaslighting. He has squandered away all of the benefit of the doubt i would be willing to give to him.

[@KlintKaras]

That's not the indignation of an innocent man. That's the rage of a man who had his plans ruined .

[@speediestmoon1404]

"And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for those Meddling KZbinrs."

[@gorpazorp7309]

i think you may not know what rage looks like, even in the slightest. must be easy being ignorant to real world scenarios.

[@LazyPeanut01]

@@gorpazorp7309 Yeah you're right he seemed super calm and collected.

[@briandstephmoore4910]

@gorpazorp he's pretty agro at the end. Just cause he's not punching holes in walls like you would doesn't mean he's not raging. Remember the context of this being an "apology" video

[@anthonykarnes6804]

Okay, detective

[@danij5055]

Jirard: "In ten years, we couldn't find anyone we wanted to donate to because we didn't have enough money to make a restricted donation." $655k as of the end of 2022. Also Jirard: finds a place to donate $600k to within 3 weeks of bring called out. 🤔🤔

[@nujevad28]

So he said that he didn't want to give an unrestricted donation because they'd use it to pay administrative fees, but then deduct administrative fees themselves for almost a decade? As if things didn't already look bad.

[@Sinistra359]

Jhirad: I don't want it to go to someone's salary, so I'll let it sit here and lose value instead. 😂

[@mda187]

Everyone is always quick to claim they will sue for defamation... until they find out about the discovery phase, where the defendants can dig up all the possible evidence that what they said was actually true. Usually, about then, most defamation lawsuits get dropped or never filed. Better make sure your defamation threats are real, or expect to have all your skeletons brought out, and if you actually did what they claimed you did, it WILL become public record.

[@K_FI_L_Y_P_S_O]

I've never seen such an aggressive, disgruntled, and semi-threatening apology video. Regardless of the outcome, it's clear that neither him or his organization should be handling any amount of money now or in the future.

[@thegreatynot5049]

Jirard's resonse reminds me of the finebros' response way back when Very angry

[@nman551]

Angy

[@Richard.Dawson]

Isn't it kind of ironic that a charity for dementia *forgot* to donate the charity?!

[@ard-net2999]

I have been surpassed as the master of "Ground Fruit" low hanging fruit so low it's on the ground. That was one even I'd have passed up on, but you went there. Well played! heh

[@Richard.Dawson]

@@ard-net2999 you miss all of the shots that you don't take!

[@RobotnikPlngas]

I laughed way too hard when I made this connection, thank you for making me laugh again.

[@loki210]

The problem about the restricted funds thing is that the whole idea of the money not going to salaries, operating expenses etc. is incredibly shortsighted and selfish. Research is a massive undertaking, especially in the medical field and if NONE of the funds given by charity are allowed to go to the actual logistics of running the operation then guess what? Not a whole lot can be done on the actual research side of things either. So either way the money just sits doing nothing. And also while 600k has rightfully been called out by people in the know as not a hugely significant amount in terms of what it can do for medical research it is also WAY over what needs to be collected in a lump sum to make a restricted donation if you wanted to. They could have easily made restricted donations every year off of just what Indieland made annually and because it wouldn't depreciate that way it actually would have went much further.

[@ard-net2999]

It's also incorrect. But you make an excellent point, gotta pay the support stuff, one infuriated me about the whole claim he made about wanting to restrict it. But you heard his statement "or came with huge admin fees", see Restricted is kind of misleading. Say I donate to red cross, restrict it to say "housing people after fires". it can only be used for that program, not "housing people after hurricane". Some General Administration costs are allowable and all restricted donation's program administration costs are allowable. So that 600k isn't going to just researcher salary and equipment as much as he would like to make it seem.

[@condor237]

@@ard-net2999also, his family was skimming ‘admin fees’ for themselves lol while complaining about not wanting to pay a doctor’s salary

[@chompers5568]

It's such a foolish idea that the money was going to be used for wages but now it won't.

[@scabbynack]

It is also (almost certainly) a completely made-up reason for holding onto the money.

[@elif6908]

@@ard-net2999restricted donations has to be tracked and documented in addition to the usual money documentation, so charities that don’t have a built in restricted donation branch have to allocate additional resources to restricted donations, I imagine that’s the ‘admin fees’ they’re talking about.

[@ryanaertel]

Its pretty incredible that social pressure was able to make jirard do something that his own emotional attachment due to his mother didn't

[@anegwa]

Hahahah

[@Akula111]

feels like he was genuinely mad that they were caught instead of being mad about being accused of lying ngl

[@briandstephmoore4910]

That "apology" wasn't one lol, was jingling keys mixed with gaslighting add in a dash of standing on his mother's grave and that bs is what we got.

[@fialovejbiftek]

He didn't even title the video as an apology. It's called "My response."

[@briandstephmoore4910]

People don’t apologize for things in a simple response this was a bs attempt to save his career and it failed miserably. Dudes a conman whether by incompetence or choice the end result was the same.

[@Shatterstar]

If he sues Muta and Karl, it'll be a waste of money on both sides. It's hard to prove defamation when Muta and Karl used filings and Open Hand's website for their conclusions.

[@AzureRoxe]

Jirard: Your Honor, these people have comitted defamation by using public info to prove i withheld charity money for 10 years. Judge: .......what?

[@OpalLeigh]

The strongest defence against defamation is the truth 😬 what they said is factually true. Only the reasons are speculative, and they never claimed to know what he was thinking 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@nanotech1921]

Not to mention theres audio and video evidence of Jirard admitting to what Muta and Karl are accusing him of

[@condor237]

Jirard can pay for his legal fees with the charity money he skimmed

[@bigboybastard7162]

Its a bullying tactic, cause even if they can prove their innocence, they still will suffer through the legal proceedings and cost. Most people wont wanna deal with it so theyll back out, luckily muta and karl arent the type to back out.

[@ArcaniS961]

After NOT donating the money in 10 years?! I don't think people still want this "Con-Pletionist" to still be involved in any fund raising for any charities.

[@mosquitopyjamas9048]

Nice. Reminds me of those old timey tabloid newspaper headlines or cartoons

[@basementality4924]

At least he isent pretending indieland is for charity anymore. Now he is going to be upfront that any money he makes on that stream will go into his pocket. I cannot see any developer wanting to be apart of it now.

[@Yatty.orsmth]

STOP COMING IN MY DIRECTION!!!!!!!!!!!

[@TheRealLegoDocOck]

Replace the “OM” in “COMING” with “UMM”

[@e4ty0ualive]

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!

[@marijuanaknowsomething6743]

I CANT STOP COMING!!!!! this made me think of grandmas boy. Lol

[@ItzPmacDoh44]

Ungrateful

[@LtCdrXander]

I'M COMING 😩

[@poboxchristmas380]

Jirard buried himself the very moment he decided to do that Discord call with Karl and Muta. If he would've waited and delivered the lawyer written statement, he could've manipulated more of his fanbase. Jirard admits he messed up, but then wants to sue people for saying he messed up lol. He should've just donated all of the money to The Immortal John Hancock's Humble Videogame Museum because that scam has been going on for over 10 years now, has pulled in hundreds of thousands of dollars and is steadily flying under the radar. Man, these ebegging KZbinr con-artists never cease to amaze me.

[@Micchi-]

I feel like I've read this comment somewhere

[@Khazar321]

@@Micchi- Yep, it's a copy paste from another video

[@stingerjohnny9951]

@@Khazar321 That explains why his profile name is a P.O. Box

[@EspyMelly]

Jirard's legal threats are a BIG mistake. Right now he should be working WITH Mudahar and Karl, maybe set up another interview in order to fully clear the air and answer all remaining questions, take the high road and show that he's genuine. Instead he's letting his anger speak for him, being defensive and confrontational, and that is going to make him more enemies, which he doesn't need right now.

[@darkbrisco]

Also he wasn't just being vague about the money not being donated. He was lying and saying that it was being donated. That's not a lack of transparency. That's blatant and intentional dishonesty.

[@elemomnialpha]

At this point, Jirard is either incredibly evil, or incredibly incompetent Either way he's just someone who SHOULDN'T be trusted with your money

[@user-xn6dw6tt5x]

It's the same thing lol.

[@thefinalboss2403]

He is both

[@Dullsonic3]

I think incompetent is true, but I refuse to accept he is pure evil.

[@hinachan70]

​@@Dullsonic3I agree with this. To me, the ones behind the scenes who actually handled the money are more akin to "evil". This whole thing doesn't fall on just Jirard but I mean..he's clearly taking the L to spare the people he works with.

[@vangoghsseveredear]

His story of why he didn't donate changed. Went from "I didn't know" to "I was trying to avoid admin costs" or some other ridiculous statement. If he was incompetent and telling the truth, his story wouldn't change. That leaves one option. Scumbag gonna scumbag

[@LadyCrazyMonkeyPants]

It’s been ten years! Ten years of sitting on this money not doing anything with it! What are we supposed to think when it looks like you have been squirreling money away in a bank account for a decade? From the outside looking in it kinda looks like a retirement fund.

[@NotTotallyHopeless]

Hey! That's not true! They've also been taking out large sums for unexplained "expenses" every year 😂

[@LadyCrazyMonkeyPants]

@@NotTotallyHopeless You’re right. Had to pay someone to do nothing.

[@DivertingTales]

But think of all the KZbinrs who once got a shoulder rub from him on a convention. He has to be innocent.

[@LilyArlatto]

Isn't it just like, objectively charity fraud to be saying the money is going somewhere during those livestreams (including the most recent one) when it was sitting there the whole time

[@thatHARVguy]

28:26 Yes.

[@hirotakasugi4891]

An accountant, a CPA, I believe covered this. Certified Gaming Accountant is the name.

[@arena_sniper7869]

Yes, this needs to be a pinned comment @oompaville

[@DangericeDreams]

As someone who used to follow the Completionist as a kid, it’s really sad for me to see his downfall. He’s done some pretty awful things, and I find it hard to even look at his old videos with nostalgia after all of this…

[@breakthecode4634]

The fact that anyone gets nostalgia from watching someone's old yt video is crazy.

[@habitsrabbit]

​@@breakthecode4634not really.

[@fatgumthegoat]

​@@breakthecode4634how is it crazy to get nostalgia rewatching a video you saw 10 years ago

[@joles8]

@@breakthecode4634The most normal thing ever:

[@gorpazorp7309]

tell me you are a little tiny baby without telling me your a little tiny baby@@breakthecode4634

[@coyote9448]

He did NOT care about charity. No one who cares about something would wait 10 years to do anything about it. His indignant attitude is spoiled and entitled.

[@condor237]

It was his family’s cash cow

[@thefinalboss2403]

Exactly! He claims it means so much to him yet I wonder how many people suffered and died of said illness while he played Mr Generous? He used this to bolster his public image as well! A lie that directly benefits him financially.

[@landmine36]

@@condor237 Jirard probably makes more money in a quarter than what was raised for this Charity.

[@wbeytel]

​@@morgannull4685Jirard contradicted this himself in that Discord call with Karl and Muta. He cannot now, after the fact and with actual evidence disproving it, state that it was always the plan to accrue a big lump sum first.

[@dontaskme7004]

There's also on going subs, bits, donations, membership, sponsorship, commission, sales etc over the rest of the year that are as a result of the "marketing" of being all about charity... How are they qualified/quantified and accounted for? Without the association with charity, what kind of following and year round revenue would he have? It isn't slanderous to say that there was some level of exploitation of a situation for personal gain.

[@HolyBlowhole]

@@nobodylmportant his family are all part of the charity. I believe his father is the one who started it with an annual golf tournament like 15 years ago. The golf tournament donations seem to be missing from the tax filings every year..

[@LastSider]

10:54- "...does not excuse his lack of clear communication with his audience...." You mean us being "mislead" or lying for almost a decade of who they were working with and donating the money to. Because for me, that is a clear definition of fraud. We were mislead because of that fraudster.

[@KindaBlueInGreen]

Doesn’t want to pay admin fees but erodes 100k over 10 years in inflation

[@hunterseckler3675]

Watching a Temu ad before the video started felt wrong to me.

[@mrparadise1822]

So tired of them

[@Psilomuscimol]

​@@mrparadise1822temu is cool if you don't get your info sold.

[@bobbywalker2980]

Shop like a million air , Temu.

[@mauistrife2567]

Oh i'm waiting for the things i ordered

[@blndstudiosyt4537]

​@@mauistrife2567same

[@josiemcclara7719]

Thank you oompaville for raising an awareness to scams like this... dementia is something I wish no family should go through. My family have been through this and all we hope for is a cure at the end of the day... if you donate, go through an official organization than someone who makes random charity "videos"

[@Phanthesma]

With how he responded, I am now more inclined that the money is really his secret retirement fund if only Muta and Karl have not uncovered this. He should have just properly apologized and take the biggest L that he was negligent, but he is too narcissistic to tarnish his (already tarnished) reputation.

[@GreenLobsterMonster]

Karl Jobst has sponsors for nearly every video. His videos typically take a lot of research and time, and off of ad revenue alone he could not support his wife and kid. That’s why he will put sponsorships in videos. He has people to support besides himself.

[@fluidwolf]

Sponsorships have become such a commonplace thing that I really find it odd how people seem to still treat having a sponsor for vids to be something to try to de legitimize them over. He still needs to make money at the end of the day.

[@Yuki-bk2my]

He's also in a lawsuit so he can't really afford to leave money on the table.

[@Itariatan]

Right. He literally explained he couldn't just stop making money, as he's the sole breadwinner in his household. Probably Completionist fanboys saying that stuff to discredit him

[@NosBlueade]

Yeah, this isn't a hobby for him, last I heard journalists do get paid. Ultimately though, it's just biased people on Jirard's side and/or have a completely warped sense of justice that if someone is truly doing something for the right reasons, they should have nothing to gain.

[@condor237]

@@Itariatanmaybe the completionist should complete a diet

[@MyTomServo]

The problem with the 'restricted donation' exuse is that it isn't the one given when he was first caught. He didn't make that excuse until weeks later. His initial excuse was something like "Someone else did it, I found out a year ago, and I told them DUDE THAT ISN'T COOL, and I've been looking for a place to donate since then" These are mutually exclusive. One is a planned drop when you have enough, the other is blasting someone for not donating (aka it wasn't the plan).

[@demi323100]

Dude his family is the board of directors. So the people he said hey that's not cool is his own flesh and blood. Everyone is glossing over the fact its not just him but his whole family who was being shady

[@Ilke2gofst]

His beard grows a lil bit with each lie he tells.

[@gorpazorp7309]

i dont think you know how to define a lie kiddo

[@Ilke2gofst]

@@gorpazorp7309 huh? Have you not looked into this?

[@JaePlay]

He's dj khalid at home.

[@gorpazorp7309]

finally a comment with comedy and not a loser child behind it@@JaePlay

[@nunchuksteev9811]

​@@gorpazorp7309 Is claiming to be the main donor to an org but in actuality you never gave them a dime a lie? Is constantly name dropping orgs you are donating to knowing the money hadn't moved thus getting all donations under false pretense a lie?

[@KhaiPiee]

I was respecting him until he started getting mad because it felt like he's doing a necessary apology but then pointing at another kid like BUT THEY BROKE THE RULES TOO IM MAD like he's diverting the criticism he deserves.

[@PlatosPunk]

“Honest mistakes can be explained away, dishonest ones require more explaining away.” - Hbomberguy

[@JK-gm6kk]

Breadtuberguy

[@WokioWolfy]

​@@JK-gm6kkyou know the dude also accuses other breadtubers, right?

[@an4275]

I think it’s important to add that yeah, Karl had an ad in his video, but before the ad, I’m fairly certain he apologizes & explains that he’s the sole breadwinner in his family. He shouldn’t have to choose between bringing this charity situation to light & putting food on the table imo, so I didn’t mind the ad at all

[@cheetah219]

Agreed, I was looking for someone else who posted this. People also know Karls situation.... I was disappointed that a KZbinr that chose to feed off of Karl and Mutas investigation, clearly didn't even bother watching Karl's video...

[@wbeytel]

He also didn't monetize his first video on Jirard and the Open Hand Foundation. He only did it on the follow up video after giving the explanation you've already given.

[@lawrencelopez9839]

people seem to forget that he's currently in court against the donkey kong guy. He needs money

[@petervonstamer7859]

His angry at Muda & Karl even tho he alone was the one who dragged his dead mums name through the dirt 😂

[@Yoyocreative]

What better way to honor your mom than false promises, lies and possible embezzlement. I bet she's real proud of him 🙄

[@TAGMedia7]

If there's any justice here, it's that his mother didn't live to see the monster Jirard has become.

[@mr.koibito]

To be fair to Muta and Karl, I only ever heard them accuse Jirad of charity fraud. With that said, I have high feeling Jirad would’ve NEVER donated all that money whether or not it was incompetence or negligence it’s still FRAUD.

[@vidyastuff3509]

Claiming you money is going to a cause when the money is sitting in a bank is charity fraud. Jirard threatening a LOLSuit is a bad look.

[@Dragonk116]

If any lawyer would be smart enough to look over Jirards case they would be smart enough to determine they probably won't win in court.

[@FourSixMafia]

I give this KZbinr apology video my completionist rating of ……. Donate it

[@davidtaylor-iw9kh]

if he never got called out ,what was the end goal

[@mirandamn7800]

I honestly think he only donated it because he got caught. SMH so much disgusting behavior

[@dickygushy]

I kind of want Jirard to sue. He still seems to have the "drama" and "serious issue" line blurred, and I think losing in court will give him the reality check he needs to redeem himself. Maybe it will come in hindsight either way, though, because he's probably pretty emotional about all this and that might be clouding his judgement, too It might also give us answers as to where the rest of the money went

[@bigboybastard7162]

Hes emotional about it cause he got caught red handed and any plan he did have was absolutely ruined

[@scofield117]

With regard to Jirard’s claim that they couldn’t donate the money because they couldn’t find anyone that would let them make a restricted donation unless it was for more than they had; multiple of the charities that OH claimed they were donating to allow for you to flag donations of any size as restricted right on their donation page.

[@AustinCameron]

He finally *completed* the donation.

[@Sinistra359]

Now we wait for the dlc

[@_-Lx-_]

Nope, he did the bare minimium esitimation not including all the extra details found out after the intital questioning. None of the Golf or potentially extra stuff including, He only did a Finnaplay-it.

[@Plugz__]

5:50 couldn’t keep her memory alive for long😢

[@KlintKaras]

Truly it's disgusting to use your dead moms name to commit crimes and as a shield to Garner sympathy.

[@gorpazorp7309]

truly disgusting to live in a capitalist world based on child slavery and exploitation... wait a minute?@@KlintKaras

[@gorpazorp7309]

grow a brain child@@KlintKaras

[@davidpierson2181]

Thank you oompaville for looking at all this drama and then regurgitating it. since I do not have enough time to go on Twitter

[@shinaniganz4453]

I love how his meat riders defend him by saying he 'showed' many receipts. He mentions receipts with nothing shown on screen

[@Dredd-Mau]

And the one document he showed doesn't cover the timeframe pertaining to the investigation. If everything was done to the letter of the law those documents would have exonerated him. The fact he didn't just shows he's got something to hide.

[@nman551]

Disappointing that antdude defends him I liked that guy, but I know somecallmejohnny would not defend him at all.

[@Dr.JeremyDunks]

The indignation on Jirard's part seems highly performative, tbh. So did the "apologies" immediately followed with "but"s and "however"s.

[@TheDJA4E]

I heard that it wasn’t a matter of finding a donor, but more about finding the actually money since it was lost for nearly a decade in Jirard’s beard.

[@bdhale34]

Drama is a funny thing to call a decade worth of tax and charity fraud committed under the guise of aiding people with a debilitating and quite horrible illness.

[@bearman9033]

Absolutely blew my mind twitter started takingThe Completionists side after his video and just started calling Muta slurs and other harsh stuff.

[@hieithefox]

I’m sorry but him getting upset that people rightfully were asking questions is very telling like dude you were lying for years saying money was being donated that in itself regardless of reasons is wrong

[@Lavassin]

He was waiting to get enough money, then close down his charity and hope no one noticed he didn't donate any of it to keep all the money for himself. Now he's mad he got caught. Funny how he donates as soon as someone asks where the money's at. Sad man

[@genericname718]

so, the people his family donated his mothers brain and spinal chord to wasn't trustworthy enough to find a way to get the funds to them for their research?

[@remy7156]

The fact he donated some of it after being called out tells me all I need to know.

[@ard-net2999]

he tosses out a bunch of numbers. from the numbers I hear.. it's bad. The expenses reported on the taxes alone are light on the return. At the least he said "we support x" when never having written a check. That is charity fraud.

[@ttrop]

to be fair karl is being sued by billy and he needs all the money he can get to protect himself from that guy,

[@AzureDemonicGod]

This, Karl having to fight one bearded man child is bad enough, he doesn't need to have to fight two bearded man children, also, saying it out loud right now is kinda ironic when I think about it

[@bamhamer]

It baffles me how public personas still think they can get away with such shady stuff in 2023

[@thefinalboss2403]

Well... let's see. Is he being investigated by the authorities?

[@dbagette]

Maybe to wrap up the year, someone could have the AI presidents do a tier list of all the youtuber controversies and their reactions 🤷‍♀️

[@danielchin4198]

Kinda wish you didnt call it drama since the situation is possibly criminal, but Oompy is in a billion dollars debt so I guess Ill allow it🗿.

[@chetmcghee8958]

bro forgot to donate to the dementia cause💀

[@lfroncek]

Completionist was on the board for the charity. They had board meetings. The state of accounts would have been in the minutes. He is full of it when he says the money was never donated.

[@UserName-vv1ws]

Mmmm my dad died and I don't use his death as a shield. He died of Esophageal cancer in 2011. It's part of life

[@Greenleaf_]

Reminds me of the "I got death threats so now I'm in the right" excuse everyone uses nowadays.

[@Psilomuscimol]

My dad died before I got to meet him. I need pity and a father figure. Please cater to me.

[@shugularity]

I see some irony in being a foundation focused around dementia, "forgetting" to donate the money. Also I think Jirard stepping away from the foundation has to be a decision from the foundation to remove the source of criticism, I think people need to keep an eye on the foundation beyond this, there could be shadier people on their staff.

[@aR0ttenBANANA]

Since I had never watched a single Completionist vid I had 0 knowledge of any of this but Muta is based so I'm incllined to trust him.

[@commiecomrade2644]

Just watch the videos. You could have no idea who any of these people are and know Muta is right. The guy lied for years about what was being done. Its all on video and backed up by public financial statements.

[@Jobocan.]

Don't trust people. Trust the evidence.

[@jamescole852]

"Your honor, my client claims whoopsie daisy" 🤣🤣☠️

[@KristapsJankovskis]

Believe me... if no one would call him out - he would still keep that money and not donate!

[@llamasarus1]

Before the story broke, The Completionist had 1.63m subscribers. It has since dropped to 1.59m. That's only a 40,000+ drop. I predict it will drop rapidly once he starts posting game-related content in all seriousness again.

[@tarasova_ua]

Maybe a lot of people are waiting for his response, so they haven't unsubed yet.

[@JK-gm6kk]

Gonna be competing with Blair's new content

[@Dullsonic3]

Not sure, those game reviews got nothing to do with it. In order to cause a massive drop in subs like Blair's, his videos need to be reveled as absolute lies. Show that his whole idea of Completing games to show if it's worth it is a fraud in itself. He must not only be lazy to where he never actually completed these games, but also been plagiarizing from other sources. In other terms he must be a complete hippopotamus in EVERY way. Do this with solid evidence and I will have enough of a reason to unsubscribe him without too much of a cost.

[@jm329]

Most of his subs seem to be old ones. He is getting maybe a 20% view count on his videos.

[@starlord157]

Just out of curiosity, how do we actually know what money is or was in the account and any transactions that occurred. He’s basically telling us to trust him on this…

[@kiratherenegade1561]

​@@fechaqui9513 A bank statement would immediately quell embezzlement questions. Then they only need to explain why it took so long. But Jirard couldn't do that. Because I think the bank statement isn't as clean as they want to say it is.

[@superanderson]

This is the most level-headed take on the subject. Other coverage on this was dramatized beyond what I could take seriously. Very well done, earned my sub.

[@anicoleww]

I just want to say that I'm proud of how mature you've been in covering this (and many other subjects), maybe a little biased - whether it's agreed on by others or not who cares, but you've also been very honest about your biases. I couldn't have picked a better person/team to cover this and do their best at giving an honest summary from all sides. Great job in keeping us all informed, while remaining entertaining without muddying the facts.

[@user-xn6dw6tt5x]

Its not easy for him to act mature.

[@UrResidentGhost]

Why he so mad at the creators when the situation looks like a scam.