The SAFE & EASY way to load motorcycles into a toyhauler - Full Time RV Living

[@NoFixedAddress]

Hi. We're back with a new video. Hope you enjoy it. Let us know what you think in the comments, and thanks for watching.

[@painterboy454]

What an AWESOME system you have and perfect teamwork!! Just one safety tip...please don't wear flip flops when loading or unloading your motorcycles.😯 Blessings from the Ottawa valley!

[@NoFixedAddress]

Thanks for watching. And yeah, I take your point about the flip flops. Not a normal occurrence I assure you. Something that got overlooked as we were focusing too much on video and not enough on safety. Small world. We are also in the Ottawa Valley.

[@billdonohue2389]

Harbor Freight now sells a 120v winch that free wheels, has a hand held remote, and a longer cable. Just FYI. Fantastic that your wife helps. My wife passed a few years ago, so I have to do this myself now. But the hand held remote makes it possible.

[@NoFixedAddress]

Terribly sorry for your loss, Bill. Tragic. Thanks very much for the tip regarding the winch. I will check it out. Sounds great. D

[@BobbyGumm-d2k]

what trailer do you have.what length garage ? thank you for the video

[@jodiedwards9436]

We bought a forest river vengeance rogue I can not unload buy my self I like that winch doesn' t free spool will it hold the bike back so I can get it out by myself

[@ArtistonaHarleyD]

Great video guys! Just found your channel. We are searching for our first toy hauler for our Harley's! Thanks Bonnie 🇨🇦

[@NoFixedAddress]

Glad you enjoyed the video and found it useful. Safe travels! D&J 🇨🇦👍

[@ArtistonaHarleyD]

@@NoFixedAddress Hey guys just found out that you have met Randy and Lynda Fox! We are on a bike trip with them now in Colorado! Small world!

[@NoFixedAddress]

Wow! Yes we did! Give them our best and we hope you all have a great ride. D&J

[@ognomem]

Thanks we have been looking for this solution! Ordered the winch.

[@NoFixedAddress]

Terrific! Glad you found the video useful. Thanks for your support. D&J

[@kennethgrubaugh6536]

Great video! What is the length of the cable used to connect the wench to the D rings and the cable used as a harness connected to the bike. Diameter of the cable would be helpful too. Thanks in advance.

[@NoFixedAddress]

Hi there. Thanks for watching. The winch has 15 feet of 7/32” cable on it. To be honest we would have liked it to be about 5 feet longer so we don’t have to have the bike partially on the ramp when hooking up. The cable in the harness is 4 feet long. Links to the products we use can be found here: nofixedaddress.life/loading Glad you found the video useful. D&J

[@williamdunbar8554]

Sweet system, great looking bikes & couple. and you've given me ideas. Next season I intend having a toy hauler camper, and either a Harley or Honda trike. Will most likely load it the same way. I use a wench strapped to a tree to pull the pontoon up onto the beach every winter, but the idea of doing the same while loading a bike never occured to me. Thanks!

[@NoFixedAddress]

Thanks for watching. Glad you found the video informative.

[@dawns7313]

We loved this video! We have debated only bringing one bike but after watching this we may bring both!

[@NoFixedAddress]

We are so glad you found the info useful. The method truly has eliminated stress related to loading the second bike especially. Thanks for watching and giving us feedback. We really appreciate it. D&J

[@6sgx]

Hi, I tried this way of loading. I must have had a bad setup. I’m looking for your list of items used but can’t find that. How do you connect the two nylon straps to the winch hook without scratching the fender?

[@drmgoldfarb]

Does you condor chock stay in place when your traveling....even with tie downs it can slide.....I would be nervous

[@securit7590]

Great Video. I too have this winch for my toy hauler and motorcycle. I have a very steep ramp that gets slippery and sometimes the ground at the foot of the ramp is not suitable for a big bike (dirt, grass, sand etc). One thing I would maybe comment on is looking into a remote for the lady. I wouldn't stand so close in the line of fire or over the wires hooked to the D rings. If one failed it could be serious trouble. Good luck in your adventures and thank you for the video!

[@NoFixedAddress]

Thanks for watching. Great minds think alike I guess 😊. Thanks for the feedback. That’s good advice regarding potential injury should something break. I will look into some sort of remote. Thanks again and best wishes. D&J

[@securit7590]

@@NoFixedAddress Also wanted to say I wasn't trying to be critical or anything. I think I am just overly safety conscious haha. Cheers.

[@thetoolman5380]

I agree on the remote. I saw a comment about HF having a free spooling winch with longer cable. That with a pulley where the winch is now (snatch-block) will allow you wife to stand to the side and operate the winch. with the pulley idea you could mount/hang the winch temporarily to the wall/floor just about anywhere where it will fit and stand to the side with the remote. :) oh the rear straps I had on my boat trailer. that brand was called Boat Buckles. they were stainless and awesome! like $65 back then?

[@pviimprints-bs3bm]

Your video is the only I could find that uses the floor d-rings to pull your bikes up with a portable winch. I plan to do the same but with a 500 lb. ATV. I have reservations about using the d-rings. I am concerned I will pull them out of the floor using the same technique you have. Should I call the manufacture to see what my d-rings are rated?

[@NoFixedAddress]

If you are worried about pulling the d rings out with the winch then I would be worried if I were you about using the d rings to tie your ATV down. The d rings will take more of a punishment with the tiedowns than with the winch because they will be exposed to shock loads as your trailer goes over bumps. Certainly worth a call to the manufacturer though because you should know what your D rings are rated for. D

[@thanosetsitty1896]

Finally a video for bikers. Great video thank you.

[@NoFixedAddress]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it! D&J

[@Meant2BeRVing]

Hey guys came over from BluWave! Love the toy hauler! Heck we love toys! Like how the door makes a porch! No don’t damage the bikes!

[@NoFixedAddress]

Thanks. Yep, those are our babies. They get treated with kid gloves :)

[@bobgil3464]

Finally did my first trial run with my 2014 Street Glide. Purchased a 1500 lb. 120 Volt AC electric winch for Harbor Freight and all the straps you recommended. The winch comes with a mounting plate which I mounted to a half sheet of 3/4 plywood then I mounted my Wheeldock in front of the winch on the plywood. I then mounted eyelets and strapped the plywood down to the floor. Works great. Only problem I need my wife to push the cabled remote standing behind the door it only has 6 foot long cable. Does have a free spooled cable. They make wireless remotes only for the 12 volt winches. Thanks for your video you saved me from a future accident.

[@NoFixedAddress]

Excellent! Sounds like a great setup. Glad our video was of some help. We loved reading about how you adapted what we showed to meet your own needs. Thanks for following up. And a huge thank you for supporting our channel through the product links. Happy riding! D&J

[@edbender8471]

Great reply! Looking at doing the same thing. Couple questions, do u load 2 bikes? I am looking to do 2 and I am looking at the harbor freight chocks similar to the ones in the video. Did u mount your chock to the plywood? Could you load 2 units with your setup? Thanks for any info! I'm also looking to add e-track between my tie down points in the garage.

[@bobgil3464]

@@edbender8471 my class c would exceed the weight limit if I loaded 2 bikes. I only load one and ride double up. I don’t really like the cradle style chocks but I guess that’s preference. I mounted the chock and winch to the plywood and have the winch as close as possible to the chock so it is pulling straight and not in a angle pull. I hope that helps.

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Hi Janice and Dave, new friends here from BluWave. Interesting video. Safe Travels!!

[@NoFixedAddress]

Thanks for watching. That was our first time tuning in to BluWave. Had fun and will be back next week. Safe travels to you as well and we will definitely be checking out your channel. J&D.

[@michaelvanvalkenburgh5263]

Great video! Glad to see another couple that ride together. We are getting our toy hauler soon. Thanks for the loading video, been a concern of mine.

[@NoFixedAddress]

Hey there! Thanks for watching and commenting. And congratulations on your toy hauler purchase. We don’t meet a lot of couples that each ride separately. Safe travels. Perhaps we will meet somewhere out in the road some day. D&J

[@6sgx]

Make sure your toyhauler has that extra bend at the top. Mine don’t and bike gets caught up on the hinge. Adding a ramp and jack stands to avoid the steep bend! Good luck!

[@CottonWoodBlues]

when I bought my utility trailer in June 2022 , I bought a winch ( after watching youtube) ..now I have to figure out the best way to hook up the Harbor freight winch so it's removable..but I need a winch to do this by myself loading and unloading two Harleys

[@NoFixedAddress]

Loading solo sounds a bit challenging but I’m sure totally doable using a remote winch controller. Thanks for watching. D&J

[@gc854]

Just curious to why not just ride it up the ramp?

[@NoFixedAddress]

Hi. We cover that in the video. Basically the ramp is steep and quite often dew or otherwise wet ground or ramp makes the tires damp which reduces traction. This means we have to take a run at it which is dangerous given the tight fit going through the doorway. We used to do it that way for quite some time and it was always stressful. We felt it was an accident waiting to happen. Thanks for watching. D&J

[@showcasecharlie11]

@@NoFixedAddress raise the front end of the 5th wheel with the landing gear. Minimize the angle of the ramp.

[@jayb3711]

This is the stupidest s..t I have ever seen on loading a motorcycle

[@boltiton5645]

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[@NoFixedAddress]

A friend our ours has a Bolt It On system in his toyhauler. Certainly looked interesting. D&J

[@canslono1084]

Excellent teamwork!

[@NoFixedAddress]

Thanks!

[@jeffpotter7656]

What is the brand of ramp addition you bought. It looks very safe and easy to load and unload.

[@NoFixedAddress]

I’m not sure what you mean by “ramp addition”. D

[@davidbarth3504]

Great video. I have been nervous about loading my bagger on my steep toy hauler. What is the cord that you use to attach to the motorcycle. I noticed they are black and look like some type or cord.

[@NoFixedAddress]

When we made that video we were actually using a piece of braided rope for the bridle that attached to the bike forks. Since then we switched to a premade cable with loops on the end. A complete list of what we use can be found at nofixedaddress.life/wp/loading-our-bikes/

[@davidbarth3504]

@@NoFixedAddress Thank you

[@traceyjuda1677]

What size is your garage? I love the winch idea thank you!

[@NoFixedAddress]

Hi there. Our garage is 12-1/2 feet long and 8 feet wide. Thanks for watching! D&J

[@velikijoxotnik]

So, why did you ratchet-strap one bike at the calipers (below the shocks) and the other one at the crash bar (which loaded and compressed the front shocks)? It's a bit of an academic argument as to which method is better, but I've never seen anyone use both methods at the same time. Just curious.... I strap my Road Glide at the calipers. I hadn't ever thought of using a portable wench for loading a bike. Interesting idea. I only have one bike (actually, I have a XL1200C Sporty, too, but I've never trailered them both at the same time), but I don't like running it up a wet ramp. I'll think about the wench method some more, and may steal your idea. :-) The downside is that it's a two-person job, and I usually load and strap down my bike solo.

[@NoFixedAddress]

I’d prefer to strap them both from the forks but just the way the d rings are laid out in our trailer prevents us from doing that on the second bike. Not ideal but we have never experienced any issues with the loaded shocks. I actually think it might make a good mythbusters test to see if the whole “don’t load your shocks when you tie down your bike” argument actually holds water or it is folklore. I agree re two man operation. Been thinking of coming up with some sort of remote control for the winch to get around that. Thanks for your comment. Stay safe. D

[@velikijoxotnik]

@@NoFixedAddress, thanks for the quick reply. I kind of figured that there must be a method in the madness, of using the two different methods at the same time. The tie-down zealots like to yell at each other for using the 'wrong' method. LOL I used to strap my RG above the shocks. I think that the main reason that I changed to below the shocks is to help avoid strap burns on my powder-coated strap-down points.

[@adventureswithcrystal]

I just ordered the winch and cables… I feel this is safe.. I don’t want to lay down my expensive bike. If it takes a few minutes extra to keep it safe…I’m good with that. I bought a remote control to put in the outlet so I can do this alone.

[@wesstuff2751]

Good video, I just bought a toy hauler and I was concerned with loading my bikes into the back of it Considering a wet ramp or slipping on the wet rubber floor I’m turning 60 Lol and having a standard best practice is how I roll these days thanks for sharing and safe journeys

[@NoFixedAddress]

Thanks. Yeah this system was a game changer for us. Took all of the stress out of loading day.

[@HUMINT1]

Thanks for sharing the video. My wife and I are looking to purchase a used toy hauler to haul our Ultra Limited around the country. We just purchased a truck today and now just need the toy hauler. I noticed you did not bolt or secure the wheel chocks to the floor. I was curious if the wheel chocks ever move around on you after say many miles of traveling? Thanks again. Great setup by the way.

[@NoFixedAddress]

You are correct, we do not have them bolted down to the floor. We find that there is enough friction between the wheel chock, and the floor surface that we don’t get movement as we’re driving down the road. Your mileage may vary. It all depends on what floor surface you have and what the chock bearing surfaces are like. D

[@HUMINT1]

@@NoFixedAddress I appreciate your quick response. I noticed your floor where the motorcycles sit is a rubber diamond plate pattern. This is an awesome surface to have the motorcycles on for not only tying down but also for cleaning anything that might fall on the surface itself. Great setup for sure. ✌🏽

[@MoeStOnge-qz5dv]

it looks like you didn't bolt down the wheel chalk. have they slipped at all? I'm going to be loading mine soon, and I felt i wouldn't need to be bolted either.

[@NoFixedAddress]

Good eye! That's right. We do not bolt them down. We haven't had any issues with them moving around so far. Thanks for watching and commenting. Dave

[@MoeStOnge-qz5dv]

NoFixedAddress Thank you for the reply!!

[@craighannah9666]

Very informative! Thanks. I live in a wet area and if the yard's wet sometimes I can't get traction to get up the ramp. Do you unload using the winch as well?

[@NoFixedAddress]

Thanks. No we don’t unload with the winch. I primarily use the rear brake to control the bike on the way down. Generally the ramp is dry when unloading so that works fine. Thanks for watching. D

[@SolomonHomestead]

Thats pretty cool. We just ride ours in and pretty comfortable with that now but in the beginning it was a bit intimidating and this would have helped.

[@NoFixedAddress]

Been loading harleys into toyhaulers for over then years and I never got comfortable with it until switching to this system. Always felt it was an accident waiting to happen. What kind of harleys do you ride? Thanks for watching!

[@wesleydean1358]

From what I see you do not physically mount the condors to your RV Deck?

[@NoFixedAddress]

Correct. Seems to be enough friction between the floor surface and the rubber on the chocks to prevent them from moving around.

[@michaelcanto6175]

I second the nervous feeling of loading up and uploading the motorcycle. The short angled section of floor is slick in our 06 Raptor and freaking me out. Not to mention horrible when wet. I'd like to see the uploading process. I have the same straps you have on the rear tires. On my Yamaha XVS 1300 I hook to the frame arms next to the rear wheel where the rear pegs mount. The front wheel has a cradle similar to what you have, bolted to the floor with a strap across the top of the tire. When you strapped your wife's bike by the highway bars I saw them flex, I was told compressed forks can blow the seals, just a thought. Thanks for your video.

[@NoFixedAddress]

Glad you enjoyed the video. Yeah, I’ve heard the same warning about compressing the shocks but I’ve never had any issues. I’ve never liked the way the bikes sort of bounce when only held down by the wheels. Unloading is pretty straight forward. I back the bikes down using the rear brake only. Some people have recommended using the clutch, with the bike in gear, as a brake. I tried it once and couldn’t get the hang of it. It really wanted to grab. I will try again though. Thanks for watching and commenting. Safe riding! D

[@NoWay-xu1ie]

When I hauled in our toy hauler I drill and tapped the floor crossmembers and secured my wheel chock. I assume you are going to use a nother pair of straps to pull the second bike forward since your wheel chocks are not fasten down. We now pull a 5th wheel camper and pull a 6×10' trailer behind it. I know that set up is not for everyone. It's been from Key West to Arizona to Iowa and we've never been stopped for pulling doubles. Just remember you have 2 trailers before backing. And where you pull into.

[@NoFixedAddress]

Yes, we use straps pulling the bikes both forward and backwards. The chocks’ only job really is to keep the bikes upright while we strap them down. D&J

[@martinshankle4811]

GREAT idea!

[@NoFixedAddress]

Thanks!

[@niugesttocs16]

what stops the wheel chock from moving? It's not anchored? Had on move on me and it did damage to the bike, even with all the tie downs

[@NoFixedAddress]

We haven’t had any problems with them moving and we put on a lot of miles traveling full time. Maybe it has something to do with the rubberized flooring in our trailer? Don’t know for sure. I could see it being a problem on a more slippery surface. Thanks for watching. D&J

[@totalstagemark]

As a professional rigger I would ask that you reconsider your use of those spring opening clips for attaching both to the D rings but also at those beautiful bikes. they are not good for running off a winch and can easily be damaged and fail, and if any of those points fail while you're loading, it could be very bad and lead to person getting hurt and a bike going down . I would look into a shackle like a loose pin shackle that would unscrew you only need screwed in by hand.. it takes slight bit of more effort than just clipping on because you have to put the pin in the shackle, but it's a minor thing it's gonna be much stronger and much more reliable. You do not need to put a wrench on it to tighten it up just do it by hand and it could be sized appropriately to go over the thickness of the D-ring itself. Also the bow end of the shackle will protect very nicely. The nylon webbing straps are using on the forks.. good luck we're looking at going full-time in the next couple months hauling a Tri and a full dresser and trying to figure out how to get them both in the toy hauler

[@kosmic8204]

Great video. Thank you. Happy new year.

[@NoFixedAddress]

Thanks. Happy belated new year to you as well! D&J

[@RVkidzTV]

Thanks for sharing. New to your channel. Great video. We have been thinking about a toy hauler for my husband's motorcycle/bunkhouse. Will keep this video in mind if we decide to take the bike with us.

[@NoFixedAddress]

Thanks for following. We can't be without our bikes, so a toy hauler is a must for us. I used to HATE loading the bikes, though. Not any more :-)

[@c.a.mcneil7599]

Thats a great system yes but in no support flip-flops yes that's a safe way do you ride your bikes in flipflops?

[@NoFixedAddress]

Heck no! I never ride in flip flops! That would be crazy. Bare feet for the win! 😂 D

[@davefortier1510]

Just bought a toy hauler with the patio fencing. Never used it yet, been trying to figure out where the fencing goes while loading unloading. They just hang there huh.... I thought I had to take them off

[@NoFixedAddress]

Yeah. They can be a bit of a pain to deal with when it’s windy out and one of them wants to blow shut. D&J

[@cribabi1000]

Thank you so much for this video! Have you tried unloading with the winch. I always end up sliding down the ramp.

[@NoFixedAddress]

I haven’t. I know what you mean about sliding. That used to happen to me when using only the front brake. I now use a combination of both. Adding in the rear brake prevents the slide. Someone else told me they keep their bike in gear and feather the clutch to prevent the slide but I did not have any luck with that method. Thanks for watching and commenting. D&J

[@rossramsay87]

@@NoFixedAddress I put my bike in gear and use the clutch to back down. Works much better than the brake

[@NoFixedAddress]

Somebody else had also recommended that to me Ross and I tried it once and just couldn’t get the hang of it. Perhaps I should try a few more times. It makes sense. D

[@donzollars8187]

Late to the party. How do you attach the wheel chocks to the camper flooring? Just bought a toyhauler and am figuring out what I need to bring my RoadGlide Limited along.

[@NoFixedAddress]

Hi Don. We don’t actually attach them to the floor. The plastic on them seems to provide enough friction to prevent them from moving. We haven’t had any problems so far. Thanks for watching. Hope you found the video useful. D&J

[@0bruin0]

Thanks for the video. I would suggest strapping the front of the bike to the frame tubes , not the crash bar. The crash bar is only held on by 3 small bolts and not particularly strong.I also have the Condor system.. That's a great set up.

[@NoFixedAddress]

Thanks for the tip.

[@mauro6324]

Hey Dave, we have the same Condor chocks and I see you do not use the floor fasteners that come with these chocks. Is that because they are not needed or do you prefer positioning the bikes at various spots on the RV?

[@NoFixedAddress]

I didn’t like the idea of having the metal receiver brackets bolted to the floor of the garage. I didn’t want anything sticking up on the floor. So I decided to try using them unattached. The first few trips we checked on them regularly and often to make sure nothing was moving and all was good so now we just check the load any time we are stopped, which I consider to be the “normal” frequency.

[@michaelfish09]

@@NoFixedAddress Thanks so much to All here!! I am renting a toy hauler and have been worried about not being able to mount my Condor to the floor. This is reassuring to know you have done this and had no issues...

[@CarlosGarcia-ls4hn]

Isn't the wheel chock bolted to the floor?

[@NoFixedAddress]

No. We haven’t found any need to bolt them down. They don’t seem to shift around. Thanks for watching and commenting. D&J

[@rickeyvarga5432]

Awesome tip! ...loading the second bagger in tight quarters on a slippery ramp is not for the faint of heart. And yes, the cost is a well invested insurance plan!! Thanks for taking the time to share this!!!

[@NoFixedAddress]

Thanks! We really appreciate the feedback. D&J

[@ericthursam7018]

How do you lock in the wheel chocks.

[@NoFixedAddress]

We don,t actually. They seem to stay in place just fine. I guess with the downward pressure on them once the bikes are strapped in there is enough friction to keep them put.

[@michaelblackwell8184]

Very nice, I have the same type wheel chock, my question is you don’t have to mount the chock to the floor? Thanks in advance.

[@NoFixedAddress]

Nope. They seem to stay in place just fine. YMMV though as I’m sure it has a lot to do with what the trailer floor surface is like. Ours is fairly grippy. D

[@michaelblackwell8184]

Thank you, you saved me some work much appreciated.

[@dallaspowwi6682]

Your chock is not secured is it. Does your chock move a lot during trips?

[@NoFixedAddress]

Correct. It is not attached to the floor. It barely moves if at all while we are underway so we’ve never bothered to attach them. Thanks for watching. D&J

[@EpicRV]

Just found your channel from Bluwave Odyssey. Cool video. That is an easy way to load the bike. Much safer that the way I used to do it.

[@NoFixedAddress]

I don't know why we didn't think of the idea 10 years ago! Thanks for watching.

[@fredsparks4481]

my gf and I rented a Toy Hauler for Sturgis, are those wheel chalks not bolted in? thats something like what were looking for since we don't own the toy hauler were taking

[@NoFixedAddress]

You are correct. Not bolted down. There is enough friction between the floor covering (which is kind of rubbery) and the chocks that they don’t seem to move around. YMMV though depending on the surfaces. D

[@ronsanchez4710]

Have you had any issues with the chocks moving since they are not bolted down?

[@NoFixedAddress]

Not so far. YMMV. I guess there is enough friction between the chocks and the floor that they don’t move. D

[@ericbrandenburg8583]

This is brilliant!

[@NoFixedAddress]

Glad you think so! Thanks for watching. D&J.

[@carolinarider5237]

Janice does a lot of work 😉👍

[@NoFixedAddress]

Yes, she does, while I just sit and relax on the bikes! 😊 I’ve offered to swap roles but that’s not happening. Thanks for watching. D

[@bobgil3464]

That's what I worry about an "inevitable accident". I have a few questions, first, do your prefer to run the bike when winching it up I notice you ran one but not the other. I found out the front brake will not stop the bike from sliding (especially if it is damp) and you need to use the clutch and front brake in case something gives way. Also do you use the winch when backing down the ramp? I found out there's about 6 - 12 inches my feet touch the ground when sitting on my Streetglide near the bottom of the ramp. One last thing I didn't hear you mention to put the bikes in transport mode. Nothing worse than getting to the campsite with a dead battery. Oh do you ever load up one bike by yourself? Great video I am looking for a winch now. (61 YOA, Class C Toy Hauler, 2014 Street Glide with Tour Pac).

[@NoFixedAddress]

Hi. Thanks for watching and commenting. Those are some great questions. I usually idle the bikes when they go up the ramp but I do not apply any power. I let the winch do all the work. I left one off in the video just to reduce noise in that scene. I don't use the winch when going down the ramp. I prefer to just use both brakes. I tried the clutch trick but couldn't get the hang of it. Seemed to keep grabbing on me. I too have a short section where my feet don't touch the ground. Once my rear tire is on the ground i just let off everything and "coast" over that part. So far so good! We do put them in transport mode. Good point. I should have mentioned that. I have not had to load on my own as of yet. I was thinking of making a remote for the winch so that I could do that in a pinch. Thanks for the compliment. If you do decide to buy a winch through amazon we would appreciate you clicking on one of our links first - no cost to you and you don't have to buy the particular one I've linked. Perhaps our paths will cross one day and we can get out for a spin. Thanks again. Dave

[@marcusaponte1287]

Do you find that the chocks are secure and dont slip or adjust while in movement??

[@NoFixedAddress]

Yeah, they seem to stay in place just fine. D&J

[@tinahorton686]

Greet video! Do you use the winch taking the down. When it’s wet it’s so scary cause you slide down it. Can you do a video go down the ramp or do you not use it that way?

[@NoFixedAddress]

We don’t actually use the winch system when taking the bikes out. I (Dave) back them out in neutral using the rear brake for control. There is no reason I can think of that you couldn’t reverse the winching process to lower a bike back down the ramp. D&J

[@LifeonOURtime]

Just found your channel from Bluwave Odyssey. New follower here. I saw a guy 2 years ago attempt to load his small TT toyhauler and laid his bike it over onto the cable...he was more embarrassed than anything else!

[@NoFixedAddress]

Thanks for the follow. That’s exactly the thing I expect would have happened to us some day.

[@HarleyGurl114]

Awesome set up, I am thinking about this now, and I always cringe watching our Harley's go into our toy hauler. Great set up!! Flip flops was a comment I was going to make but I see below someone mentioned that.

[@NoFixedAddress]

Yep. Flip flops. Shame on me. 😬 Glad you enjoyed the video. Our method truly has taken 99% of the stress and worry out of the loading. What kind of hogs and toyhauler do you have?

[@HarleyGurl114]

@@NoFixedAddress I have Streetglide special, and hubby has Roadglide. Either way both big ones to put into our KZ Sportster 265TH I seen your snowy bike picture on Instagram this morning. Wrong! Almost made me cry! LOL!

[@davidbarth3504]

I was just wodering do you use this method to unload also?

[@NoFixedAddress]

No, actually. Just for loading. I can feather the clutch (motor not running) to ease myself down the ramp.

[@sonnyrodriguez2016]

wow nice so for us without hundred g rv or harley we just rent 14 buck uhaul trailer lma

[@NoFixedAddress]

What can I say. It’s our 300 sq ft house. 😊 D&J

[@9ictv2]

Thanks, great detailed instructions. i agree its an effective way of reducing/eliminating most of the anxiety many of us feel on loading day!

[@NoFixedAddress]

Totally! Thanks for watching. Appreciate the comment. D

[@jeffreybobeck9809]

I kind of came up with the same idea, but I load the bikes in backwards, so that I can easily ride them out down the ramp.

[@NoFixedAddress]

That’s a VERY interesting idea. That never occurred to us. We’d just have to figure out if we could get the bikes into our chocks that way. The thought of just driving out when we get to a campsite is super appealing though. Thanks! D&J

[@jeffreybobeck9809]

@@NoFixedAddress Yep. Only have to struggle once. Riding OUT is easy. I use straps, so chocks never entered my mind.

[@PullStartStables]

@@NoFixedAddress it may have been mentioned, but do you use the winch to unload as well? I’d think backing a heavy bike out would be more nerve wracking!

[@NoFixedAddress]

I back the bikes down in second gear and use the clutch as a break. D

[@PullStartStables]

@@NoFixedAddress running or not running? I’m inquisitive about the choice of 2nd gear either way, but thanks!

[@farmerbill4052]

You've never had an issue with your bikes moving during travel with this setup?

[@NoFixedAddress]

Not so far. There seems to be enough friction between the rubber floor and the black plastic coating on the ends of the chocks. D&J

[@thomasnaranjo1358]

What brand wheel chock is that

[@NoFixedAddress]

Condor. Links to all of the gear can be found here: nofixedaddress.life/wp/loading-our-bikes/ Thanks for watching. D&J

[@gfnp01]

I wish I would have seen this video before we actually started to travel! Would have saved me much heartache!

[@NoFixedAddress]

The method certainly has saved us from a lot of angst at the very least and probably mishap as well. D&J

[@danshobbies13]

I know what I’m investing in for next camping trip. Riding it up isn’t my problem. Getting it down the ramp gives me anxiety.

[@NoFixedAddress]

Haha. I’m the exact opposite. Thanks for watching. Glad you found the video useful. D.

[@showcasecharlie11]

Take the seat off and straddle it. I'm 5'5 and that allows me to easily ride bike up and down the ramp with good control, using the friction zone with the clutch. Basically walk the bike in and out. Easy peasy. No contraptions in the way. I do this with a full electra glide ultra and a 3 ft wide ramp on my 3600rl raptor from keystone.

[@bobgil3464]

One more question, what is the length of your garage area? Ours is 9 foot, it seems shorter than the one in your video.

[@NoFixedAddress]

I believe our garage is 12-1/2 feet long. Thanks for watching. D

[@calvojulio4061]

What’s the width of your trailer?

[@NoFixedAddress]

Our momentum is 8.5 feet outside. D&J

[@rprt5703]

I appreciate you sharing this video to give us all ideas on how to load the bikes. I have one concern. I’m looking at buying a toy hauler motorhome but I’m reading that the garage is only rated for slightly over 1000lbs. 2 bikes exceeds that limit for sure. I know people load 2 bikes in them all the time. I thought maybe I read that wrong on the Outlaw brochure but I read it twice. What the weight rating of your garage? I’m a little concerned. Maybe I’m just a little paranoid as I’ve never had a toy hauler before. lol

[@NoFixedAddress]

Our garage capacity depends on how much other weight we are carrying such as water, fuel, waste water, and everything else we have in the trailer that didn’t come with it. If all that was low enough we could carry somewhere around 3000 lbs in the trailer I think. I can’t find the actual spec right now. We have friends that have an outlaw. I will ask how much cargo weight they carry but I would not recommend going beyond the stated limit. D

[@rprt5703]

@@NoFixedAddress I’m sorry. I assumed that you had a motorhome because your video popped up as I was researching loading 2 bikes in an outlaw. I’ll probably just go with a toy hauler TT instead of the motorhome anyway. Thanks for the video

[@Jamoni1]

Suggestion: Permanently mount the winch out of the way, and redirect the cable where you need it with pulleys. It'll limit your time spent rigging dramatically, and you can place the wheel stand first.

[@GeRom831]

I tried this using your recommended double loop cable on Amazon. It is total garbage. The lead connector on one side immediately failed and allowed the cable loop to slip out with barely any tension on it. The bike hadn’t even started moving yet. If this is the one that you are using, I’d recommend you get a better quality cable before yours breaks too. The cable that you are recommending should only be used as a security cable, to lock something up. It should not be used to pull something with.

[@tomadams266]

Very innovative. I would never hook the down straps to the crash bars. They will fatigue and eventually break. Seen it happen more than once. HD sells a tie down anchor point that goes on your front forks and is very secure. Almost unnoticeable too.

[@NoFixedAddress]

Thanks for the tip. Will look into that.

[@cb-gz1vl]

This is exactly what I plan to do. RV and motorcycle tour. Thanks for the great video. I've always wondered why the makers don't have premade winch mount spots or installed winches. Also nice to know about that portable hitch. What do you do when you pull into a park? Do you unload the bikes before backing into the stall? Also the wheel chock just sits? Its not bolted in?

[@NoFixedAddress]

Yeah a built in winching system would be ideal. Re unloading it depends on the site. If it’s a pull through we unload after parking. Otherwise yes, we unload and then back in. Correct. The chocks are not bolted down. We have not had any issues with them moving. Thanks for watching and commenting. D&J

[@robertmccully2792]

Your doing it all correct, dropping a bike or getting hurt is not worth the stress and cost. Good job, both of you.

[@NoFixedAddress]

Thanks! D&J

[@jamesoncross7494]

Nice.

[@NoFixedAddress]

Thanks!

[@bobandtams]

Seen you on @BluWave Odyssey....checking out your channel. We have a toyhauler, and we haul a 2014 CVO . We use the Bikerbar to hold the bike, no straps. Gave you a big 👍Also sub to your channel. Safe travels 😁

[@NoFixedAddress]

Just checked out the Biker Bar. Looks great but does the part that gets left behind on the floor not get in the way? Thanks for the like and follow. Maybe we will see you in the road some day and go for a scoot.

[@kimpritchard3477]

Great video, just purchased our first RV toy hauler and we too have 2 bikes. One question - my husband is concerned about scraping pipes loading onto ramp. Do you have any issues from road to starting up the ramp? Thanks in advance - Kim

[@NoFixedAddress]

Thanks Kim. No, we haven't ever had and scraping problems but presumably that would be bike dependent. No issues with our Streetglides though. Thanks for watching. D&J

[@kennethlevine6344]

Great video. Thanks!

[@NoFixedAddress]

Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it. D&J

[@M_J_Glide_22]

Pro tip....this is just me and you can ask around...I wouldn't put that kind of pressure on your suspension....hook to the frame...

[@NoFixedAddress]

Thanks. No problems so far after many miles of hauling and many load/unload cycles. D

[@gaknskk]

Paint the ramp with paint that has grit in it or just add some sand to whatever paint you want.

[@NoFixedAddress]

The ramp is gritty already. Because of how steep it is it is still too slippery when wet. D&J

[@rod2825]

10-4 on that mines a tire burner getting it in even with the grip tape ! It sucks both ways dry too it sucks i dont want a you tube moment

[@Pepschannel]

thanks for a super helpful video!

[@propilot366]

Ya'll need to look at the "biker Bar" by B&H hitches !! Ditch the straps !!!

[@NoFixedAddress]

We have looked at those and they look great. We would love to have them. Maybe some day. It’s hard to justify the expense when we have a workable system already. Thank you for watching and commenting. We really appreciate it. D&J

[@mattharper588]

Shawn Flowers bolt it on also has a nice chock and the nice thing about theirs is you don’t have to drill holes in the floor it mounts to the tie down rings which you can add on if the factory ones aren’t in the right spot. I used lag screws

[@NoFixedAddress]

A friend of ours has the bolt it on kit and he loves it. Thanks for watching and commenting. D&J.

[@bobgil3464]

You don't appear to be a tall guy, but your feet seem to be solid on the ground compared to other videos I seen loading with a winch. I got my winch hooked up and today will be my first trial run.

[@NoFixedAddress]

The StreetGlide has a pretty low seat, so that has something to do with it I think. Good luck with your trial run. Let us know how it goes. D&J

[@hondo1829]

GREAT IDEA!

[@NoFixedAddress]

Glad you think so. Thanks for watching. D&J

[@michaelblackwell8184]

I have the same wheel chock, I guess it works fine without mounting it to the floor? Thanks

[@NoFixedAddress]

It seems to, at least in the floor surface we have in our toyhauler. YMMV though. Our floor is kind of “grippy”. D&J

[@GriffinsDen]

Looks effective ... but I think for your wifes safety and yours. If that cable brakes it will not be pretty . Look up winch dampeners and winch safely sir. No rewind if something goes wrong. Great idea and hey brother also for your ankles sake flip flops and motorcycles like oil and water.

[@NoFixedAddress]

You are absolutely right. Good points that others have brought up as well. We have altered our procedures accordingly to eliminate the safety concerns. Thank you for your comment and concern. D&J

[@CliffWoods-l4h]

Position your straps on the forks to save on fork seals. Other than that excellent very informative.

[@NoFixedAddress]

Thanks!

[@michaeldavid7296]

You guys rock thank you!

[@NoFixedAddress]

Thanks! D&J

[@roryolson61]

I like the idea of using a wench to load which I would be doing by myself. I think I'll find one with a remote though. I have a 5x8 trailer now but planning for a toyhauler in the near future. Thanks for sharing!

[@NoFixedAddress]

Yes, I’ve thought about what I’d do if I was loading on my own. My current system doesn’t support doing that. You’re right - a winch with a remote would be ideal. What I think I will do in case I’m in that situation is rig up a switch on the end of a length of cord that will be used to apply or cut power to the 115v winch I am currently using. I will plug the winch into it, and plug it into the wall. Should be able to find everything needed at Lowe’s or Home Depot. Thanks for watching.

[@roryolson61]

@@NoFixedAddress - I just found a 2500 lb. 12v wench on Ebay $75. Has wireless and wired remote. I can use this in my current trailer hooked to my truck.

[@NoFixedAddress]

Sounds ideal!

[@mo-gee7151]

Please move away from the winch. If the cable snaps at tension it will cost you your life. Use a rod to activate the trigger and step well out of the way of any snapped steal cable traveling 300 feet fer second. It will cut off your head. Thumps up this so I know I did my best to add to your safety and that of your viewers. Eye protection is also strongly suggested. Be safe.

[@NoFixedAddress]

Thanks for your concern, Eric. You are not the first to bring this concern to our attention and we now use a remote switch to activate the winch. D&J

[@ahcupseries2770]

That’s cool

[@NoFixedAddress]

Thanks! D&J

[@bigpapapregok8804]

Brilliant!!!!

[@NoFixedAddress]

Thanks 👍

[@ND-tu7ww]

Although I appreciate your ingenuity I feel its overkill, and you can drop the bike when half on ramp and ground unless you have super long legs. Once you overcome the fear of scratching bike or RV you quickly learn momentum is your friend. Gain enough speed to make it up the ramp and into RV with little or no throttle on ramp. For unloading I keep engine off and in first gear. This allows you to use clutch as a rear tire brake while using front brake.

[@gunshipgray4295]

Good quality Grip tape and or a winch....

[@NoFixedAddress]

Not sure we follow regarding grip tape. D&J

[@rickzangora4340]

Your front tie downs should go to frame not crash bars. You will weaken the weld where the bolt goes thru the way your doing it now. Take it from someone who did this for a living!

[@NoFixedAddress]

Yeah a controversial topic for sure. Thanks for the feedback. D

[@jesseplz]

A lot of work for Dave and Janice

[@NoFixedAddress]

Actually we have it down to a science now. We can load the bikes in about ten minutes. D&J