The Safest Mobile Device: iOS vs Android

Should you choose Apple or Google when it comes to privacy and security on your mobile device? There's one part of this argument that most people tend to ignore. The answer isn't what you think (and no, I'm not saying a Linux-based alternative is the solution!).
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Video Timestamps
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0:00 - Introduction
0:29 - iOS vs Android
1:44 - The Operating System
4:03 - User Tracking
6:26 - Messaging
7:38 - The Hardware
9:20 - Key Take Away: It Really Doesn't Matter
9:51 - Alternative Operating Systems
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The debate between iPhone and Android devices is honestly hard to settle and it usually comes down to subjective preference. So whether you're an iPhone or android user, the strength of your privacy and security ultimately comes down to how much of your data is stored in these devices. In this video, Josh and Pete Matheson walked you through the differences of iOS and android when it comes to privacy and security.
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#iOS #android #cybesecurity

[@AllThingsSecured]

Which mobile OS do you use? And are you looking to change for some reason? Leave a comment below with your answer...I'm curious to know!

[@bobbyjohnson116]

GrapheneOS focused on hardened android for more privacy and some security. Lots of sandboxing.

[@saurusratke]

Hey this isnt related to this video but your video about setting up a google authenticator app might be misinforming people. KZbin use to have a way to put in text boxes on the video to tell a viewer this info is out of date. If you really think google authenticator is insecure you should take that video down or at least put a warning somehow.

[@SpeedRaceGame]

I was curious about that app Shared security show is that app for protection for the phone

[@SpeedRaceGame]

I use Galaxy A71 is there another app I can use to protect my phone fir all my info for my phone but not only signal private

[@x-gamessimulator1067]

Im a SuperUser Android I do not agree! I think Android is better at tracking than IOS. If it's on Android by the manufacturer, Android loses. But if you use a Custom Rom + Root + Adblock + MicroG. Definitely Android Wins with Custom ROMs. De-Google Phone

[@jojo-gg1iz]

I felt that blackberry moment of silence in my heart.

[@SharedSecurityPodcast]

Thank you for the shout out! Great episode!

[@AllThingsSecured]

Absolutely! I'm a fan of your podcast.

[@deborahc9775]

Can you discuss clouds? Specifically what to store, where to store, and what not to store. I resisted them for a long time but it seems necessary if you primarily use a mobile device.

[@joeyjoey7972]

if you using samsung secure folder or just using 256K AES encryption in a seperate IOS app, then unless you physically unlock those files then no once can get access to them. i think this video whilst informative is very high level. there are many things you can do apart from app permissions to secure your data. In general if you know what your doing both android and Ios can be very secure devices.

[@dray2625]

New viewer here. Really like your calm and informative way of presenting information. Definitely new fan! will follow.... Thanks

[@ronakclasses]

Thanks for the perspective I never thought in this way

[@dontgoonmyprofile9028]

You're ignoring the fact that google is an advertising company

[@johns818]

Umm.. so is apple

[@fabiocarvalho2640]

THANK YOU for this video. I’m doing some research if the Google Pixel 6 is a better fit for my security concerns and it was really hard to find good content related to privacy and security. Apparently only the camera is what matters for most people these days. Cheers

[@blankstatement1]

the pixel is a great option and if you’re thinking about getting the 7 VPN service is included for free

[@brennathompson1855]

Thanks for all the information! I am looking to replace my really old phone and privacy is my main concern. People told me Apple is better than Android in that regard, and it seems they were correct

[@shadowmaker8402]

Not really in andriod you can have stuff that make it more secure so

[@ViralVideos69698]

@@shadowmaker8402 Yeah

[@ricdonato4328]

After being a iPhone user for eleven years, I purchased a Samsung Note20. OMG, this is an amazing device, better than any iPhone I owned. Also, my productivity increased as well, thus I do not see any reason for returning to iPhone.

[@nikyabodigital]

Me too. But Iphone camera and software update is just so good man.

[@sergebureau2225]

@@nikyabodigital No it is not at all !!!

[@randomdreamer1619]

@@nikyabodigital Yellowish camera?

[@christinaanderson8336]

@@nikyabodigital actually with updates Google is just as good . Samsung is catching up. Both Samsung and Google take great videos and pictures anymore. Fold 4 user and love it

[@ldmtag]

Can you give some examples? I'm a Samsung user too, I've always thought my system is superior, I just can't tell exactly why cos I never used iPhone for more than a couple hours. So far I can say it's just inconvenient and unpleasant to use, it forces me to swipe, drag and hold stuff, which I don't like, I prefer a formal cold distancing tap.

[@dennisk7193]

honestly, your video is really damn good. I'm from the Android side and i hate really the apple side. But in fact, how you say, it is important how to feed your device with your (personal) informations and it no cares about how secure one system is, because social engineering can beat them.. thx for your review/video, i like it💪

[@ahmadkaddoura7060]

very illustrative and useful ..thanks a lot

[@homesteadishdad]

I use an Apple phone with iOS for my daily use, but I keep as much personal data off of it as possible. I have a Pixel with CalyxOS (my opinion, the best Linux phone OS) and I have been getting used to using that in the event my iPhone is no longer viable for these privacy reasons.

[@thomas1699]

I use an Android (12) phone. Sony 10 Mk 3. I use Firefox Browser and Duck Duck Go search engine. That slows my phone down a bit, but it cuts off lots of trackers. I still have the (Windows) PC mindset. (I can put any collection of parts in it that I wish.)

[@aatmboodh]

Very nice and practical video session on privacy i ever watched

[@StefanUrkel]

answer for 99.9% of the population: it doesn't matter.. use common sense. if you put sensitive data on a phone or any device, secure it according to its sensitivity, whether it be password protection, encryption, etc. and if it's that sensitive that you even worry about it after that, then don't put it on any device or at least not one connected to any network whatsoever. what is YOUR threat model? if you're spending your time worrying and your situation is such that nobody really cares about you or your personal info (aside from marketers and fraudsters), then you're spending precious moments of your time trying to safeguard things for no good reason and wasting your life away doing it, while also enduring the inconveniences that come from doing it.

[@Jane_Moss]

wow I love this comment. surprised no one commented under it. I have been wasting so much time trying to figure this out. wondering what phone u use ?

[@StefanUrkel]

@@Jane_Moss I now use a Pixel 6, since Best Buy recently had the TMobile model as an upgrade for $200 without any contract. Had it unlocked and installed GrapheneOS on it. It doesn't install unnecessary apps I don't use, lets me have a bit more control privacy and security settings, and feels less invasive. I have separate user profiles for everyday tasks (web browsing, youtube using a 3rd party app that bypasses the ads, etc.) and for banking. But that's a personal choice to go through those hoops. It works well for me so far. It's not better than an iPhone 13/14 Pro Max or Samsung S22 Ultra, but it does what I need out of a phone while paying as little as possible. But for most people, I would just go with an iPhone honestly. I just wanted a little more control over certain things and be not as locked into Apple's ecosystem. But iPhone does pretty good when it comes to security and privacy while not to the point of being inconvenient.

[@trintex44]

I switched to iPhone last year from the S22 the only thing I miss about the Android is the customization but other than that Apples is my choice. I just feel like the security is better

[@Poweredbylinux]

I'm starting to question Apple's honesty around privacy. I pay for Apple One Priemer and have noticed targeted ads in their News App and in the Apple TV app. Plus Google is the default search engine in Safari. It's a financial benefit to Apple in the "Partnership" with Google. I also question whether or not Apple is making money off of our biometrics via the Apple Watch. Apple claims our health data is private, but it's customers can opt into research. My guess is that Apple isn't giving that information away for free. It's pure speculation, but they're in the business to make money and they collect a TON of telemetry data on us. From biometrics, to what apps you use the most, to where you are going. Again, I don't think Apple is as forthcoming as they portray themselves to be.

[@JonathanCentifanto]

The fact that Apple was going full steam ahead with the ICloud photo scanning and only stopped when it got leaked, tells me that they aren't as invested in your security as they claim. Also, the fact that they force users to use unencrypted SMS instead of encrypted RCS when messaging non-iOS devices is super ironic. I'm of the opinion that Android and iOS are pretty much equally secure if you are smart with your device.

[@pedroblanco8311]

Hi Josh, I look forward to watching this in more detail. Would you please be kind enough to add Latin American Spanish subtitles? Thanks so much for your consideration.

[@loveluronaldo]

Thank you for video ❤️

[@matts.3153]

Ive always been an Android phone user because I enjoy the options of customizing. Youre able to change more, widgets, and more security by using my VPNs with little interference. Youre able to turn off alot of the tracking and logging on your google account. iPhones are def great for people who dont like to play around with tech...From the little amount ive used of my friends iPhone devices I feel like you're confined to a specific space. Not bashing iPhone because they're great phones for certain users. Just like Android better

[@funkam0nkey]

I would take a look into iOS a bit more. Besides the lack of customisation, you get a lot of options that are techie friendly, especially if you jump into the ecosystem.

[@needfortweed8734]

When I had to take the leap from my Blackberry to more common smartphones, I initially went for the Blackberry Priv. But that (like all Android phones) forced me to sign up to Gmail. I had that phone for a few years until it started flaking out on me, and then I got a Realme Pro 3. I might have to take a plunge into the Apple cult when that phone does on me. As other commenters said, the Google model for earning money is ADS, ADS and more ADS. To increase their efficency, Google would of course have to crawl everything that is on my phone. And since Gmail is the logon for this, they already have that option. That is why I have to drag myself kicking and screaming into iOs when my time is up...

[@robmalcolm8042]

You’ll kick and scream your way out ios as well when you realize it’s a glorified subscription device. To get anything out of it you need to spend tons on top of what you already pay monthly for your bill. Really truthfully the design of iOS is a better os than android but apple uses that in a wrongful way by making you use proprietary this proprietary that. Less compatibility in certain cases. The privacy part is great but how true that is isn’t known since who knows what apple actually knows about you since they still have access to your information in some way just not like google does. Using the 13 for months it’s a good phone but I still use my old androids as they are more fun emulators are amazing and let me have time to game older systems (don’t have time for my ps4 anymore with family and work and barely have time for the switch since it’s big to take around) so android emulation helps a lot and iphone emulation is very hard to do and keep stabile without it not working eventually if you don’t use altstore Carefully plus much more options on android like 3ds and ps2 and even switch emulation now

[@needfortweed8734]

@@robmalcolm8042 thanks for letting me know. I have already started dipping my toes into iOs waters: my Nvidia Shield failed, so I got an Apple-TV. It is really not straight forward to me, and it would love for me to add my subscription services to the "TV-engine"...

[@robmalcolm8042]

@@needfortweed8734 apple devices have good longevity usually but I got a old iPad 2 that can’t use apps anymore cause apple says it’s too old. Doesn’t happen with android you can always use even a older android

[@needfortweed8734]

@@robmalcolm8042 yeah, you're probably right there. We'll see what I end up with whenever my phone decides to quit on me. So far it is still going strong...

[@robmalcolm8042]

@@needfortweed8734 I won’t hold you if you want to try apple but it can be very expensive to stay with to use the phone to it’s potential. Even then android is a much better value and things are very different. It’s upto you tho next year androids look really good

[@thatjpwing]

I’m an iOS user all the way. The integration across the ecosystem is amazing. I feel like Apple has an honest interest in maintaining user privacy and don’t mind that they use that as a selling point. I’ve had Android phones in the past. They provided a good experience. However, Google is in the business of knowing user data to provide a personalized ad experience, since the vast majority of Google products are ad supported. Google is in the ad business, and for that to succeed they need to know user data. Now, my trust level is higher with Google than it is with, say, Facebook, but my trust level with Apple is higher than with Google. Usually I’m all about Linux, and I use Linux on daily basis, but I don’t want to tinker with my smartphone like I do with my desktop or laptop, so I stick with iOS.

[@raywall1133]

This reads the way I feel. I'm currently on Android, but for reasons you just wrote, my next phone will most likely be an iPhone to go along with my Linux laptop at home.

[@AllThingsSecured]

Makes a lot of sense, J.P.

[@funkam0nkey]

@@raywall1133 I made the jump in 2021 and haven’t looked back. iOS has come a long way in the last 2 versions. Not regrets.

[@manowar2816]

Siri is power by Google . You have In iPhone advertising ID yes you do they listen to you a ll the time. Etc apple lie

[@funkam0nkey]

@@manowar2816 Siri isn't powered by Google. Also with Apple you are asked if you want targeted ads. You get the chance to turn them off. Which I have done, along with app tracking.

[@AlanPavletta]

@AllThingsSecured What's your opinion about Beeper?

[@arthurmarek8418]

Good overview, I have both...I like both, I think Iwill keep itlike that...

[@diogenesramos7170]

There's an interesting article about this called "Are iPhones Really Better for Privacy? Comparative Study of iOS and Android Apps"

[@SS-cv4fo]

Source?

[@jaisuryabanerjee]

Great video, thanks

[@Astro_80]

I prefer Android for it's flexibility and customisation. Security-wise, with newer versions of the OS, you have good control over both OS level and app level privacy settings.

[@AllThingsSecured]

I think they still have a ways to go with app-level privacy, but it’s definitely getting better. Thanks for the feedback, Frank!

[@Astro_80]

@@AllThingsSecured No problem

[@funkam0nkey]

The issue lies with Google apps and the data they collect. Not how secure the OS is. You can’t have privacy and that amount of data collection. Choose one or the other.

[@onyi9046]

IOS is far better

[@ricdonato4328]

@@onyi9046 Be specific. Do explain how and why, otherwise your comment is at best anecdotal.

[@redcolonybigfoot]

This is why I use a pager and bag phone. Lot less hassle

[@billi706]

This guy puts ads in his videos and still manages to put ads while talking 🤦‍♂️

[@sayanchowdhury6111]

Wow fantastic news telecast......

[@tyrosel2543]

This was quite a beneficial video. Thank u

[@AllThingsSecured]

Glad it was helpful!

[@JBlinky67]

So basically it doesn't matter. Got it. Been using Android since the first Note was released. Now have S22 Ultra. Was considering switching to iOS next time for privacy reasons. Guess I won't be. Thank you.

[@TyroneBiggums789]

I was debating switching to iphone for security and very shamefully I must admit imessage as well

[@Dandy334]

I recently went from Apple phone I’ve had for 4 years to an android. I wish I could stay with Apple for the security. If you have anymore safety info and tips and tricks for android it would be helpful. Thank you.

[@oddsnends3090]

Why didn’t you just stay with iPhone?

[@MarkTomeh]

Android uses RCS Chat for end to end encryption. It's default on pretty much all Android devices. You should have included that in there instead of put "???."

[@valvbl9022]

Encryption that's still anybody can see if you fell for that good luck

[@he-dp3mk]

5:07 ive always been an android user and every phone i remember having has asked for permissions before using the camera etc, idk what hes talking about

[@zugzwang_age3475]

I am an Android user and this happen after apple done it first . I think it was after android 9

[@enndot3921]

THANK YOU!!! Thank you, thank you. So important, relevant, not enough well known coverage on these topics. Awesome and super freekin well done.

[@angelamoe9559]

I wiped my iPhone X and sold it. I just downloaded an app u haven’t used it awhile but it said “share with your I phone x?” Is this just the app being dumb? I don’t want to share any information with someone that owns my old phone.

[@PieterBreda]

In Europe, providers won't interfere with your phone nor install stuff.

[@marcthegodf186]

Hi Josh, I use iOS! I like the privacy out of the box. Also, I enjoy the Apple Ecosystem! Personally, in conjunction with this, I use decentralized VPN Orchid!

[@ornikel]

It also depends on how Apple and Google check the apps in their stores. I always hear about Malware apps for Android, but not much on iOS.

[@AllThingsSecured]

Yea, it seems that the app submission process is much less stringent on Android than iOS.

[@adam.maqavoy]

Yeah ~ Google store is terrible at managing their apps & the security as well the Amount of patent issue, Third party issues & a variety of other issues. Now.. I don't use many .apps to begin with. And am already for *Open Source* & *Encryption* But.. bloating is "Almost" - inevitable if your an *IT-Security* And *Security-Researcher* in these Days. • Last-Note: ~ Yes, *Signal* (app) is BiS! Just gotta *Reverse-Engineer* other phone + Make sure to Bloat the Phone as well. I already do not trust *Privacy* > Of *Smartphones* ( Good thing I've some Baltic *Eestië* ) Blood Running in these veins!

[@ricdonato4328]

Purchasing apps off the Google Store there is much less likely of contracting malware. Same with Apple, purchase from their app store.

[@ricdonato4328]

@@adam.maqavoy Oops "...inevitable if your an IT-Security And ...", should read either you are or you're. Recall that which follows your belongs to the person you are writing to. Yes, when spoken your and you're sound the same, however when written each has their own meanings and usage not related to each other.

[@robmalcolm8042]

Android to me feels more similar to windows than Linux. And this is with it being based on Linux! Linux is way more stabile than both and arguably as much or more stabile than Mac OS.

[@tutacat]

Yes they can install spyware apps, etc. ADB makes the scanning much easier, and allows all files access on iphone.

[@benf101]

I've used Graphene OS (degoogled Android) for over a year now. It's right up to date with Android 13. Everything works fine.

[@benf101]

@Iron Reagan either one is a spy device.

[@benf101]

@Iron Reagan Probably not. But if you get android at least you can put a custom ROM on it and control it.

[@varinderkataria4848]

I have two phones, one iPhone and OnePlus. Last month there was a cyber attack on my android and it in fact was compromised. Before that, I have always loved android but as far as security goes, no one beats iPhone.

[@JunkheadAlice]

I run windows 11 pro on my mobile device. I've been using windows based mobile devices exclusively for 20 years. I've checked out ios and android and they don't work for me. Having a full pc in my pocket and a duplicate spare has allowed me to live light without sacrifice. My current device is the surface duo.

[@benaravensfan]

The messaging situation is one of the things that the US DOJ is suing Apple over.

[@SpeedRaceGame]

Have a question on this app Shared Security Show Is this app can be use for your Android phone let me know And where I can buy it and how much is it and can u tell me how many procentage is secure for this phone

[@AllThingsSecured]

It’s actually a podcast you can listen to.

[@rmaha1965]

I'm team Apple all the way as far as privacy and security goes for several reasons. I recall that several years ago the government tried to coerce Apple into building a backdoor "master key" that can access any device at any time. Apple fought back saying that the would compromise a key feature of their products. Also, most secure data is not on Apple servers but kept on the phone. Google hands over customer data, it seems, to anyone at any time for any reason. Also, I tried an interesting experiment where a friend has a Galaxy phone and it we put in to the table next to an iPhone both with the lock screen on. Then we started talking about an obscure subject like "Gee I'd really like to go on an Alaska cruise" and we said it 4-5 times. Guess what he started seeing in his feed too after? Adverts to Alaska cruises. So while the Android world has much more innovative hardware (yes I've been tempted), I wouldn't touch any of them given the risks.

[@TyroneBiggums789]

Im debating between iPhone 14 pro max and Galaxy s23 ultra, I am so torn and I can't decide because I love the customization on my current Galaxy but I want the security of an iPhone. I currently have a galaxy s20+

[@jeremysmith7374]

Not the samsungs fault that is his own

[@Yes-uf2je]

@@jeremysmith7374lol what

[@fakeisreal258]

God bless u for thinking that apple doesn't have any backdoor

[@Teluric2]

​@@fakeisreal258mac os have backdoor and telemetry..you re so gullible

[@rebeccagrace1509]

I prefer Android and having the control over my privacy... apple "good" for protecting you against the "bad kids" but my gut and intuition does not trust the dependence on this sole parent in control of and access to all my ish...

[@mr.jimmeh]

I trust Apple more than Google (an advertising company) with my security/privacy. Not completely, but still a lot more.

[@cosanostra4286]

Actually with Samsung you have the option to turn off Google listening to your phone conversation for third party advertising . SO EVEN WHEN YOU'RE NOT USING YOUR PHONE GOOGLE LISTEN TO YOUR CONVERSATION WITH APLE YOU DONT HAVE THAT Option of turning it off

[@adrianroman4076]

That is a samsung thing? Isn't that in Android? I was going to switch from Samsung to Pixel to at least share data only with one, not 2 corporations.

[@riigel]

I do use signal too

[@AllThingsSecured]

Glad you like it.

[@vedicwarriorOriginal]

I have found the perfect solution. Turn off these devices until you really need to use them. No, Airplane mode just doesn't cut it. Switch it off. There, saved you a few quid you would've spent on a new, de-googled phone.👍

[@AllThingsSecured]

Sorry to break it to you, but even phones turned off send out signals.

[@vedicwarriorOriginal]

@@AllThingsSecured OMG!!! Not a conspiracy theory then! We've truly become slaves to these devices. Anyways, thanks for the head-up, mate. Love ur content. 👍

[@macbitz]

For me it's an easy decision because with Google *YOU* are the product, they have to collect your data, sell/share it and make money that way. Apple makes its money by selling hardware, services and taking a generous cut from app sales, not by selling its users’ data or running ads. Thing is though, it's YOUR choice, no-one is forcing you to use either.

[@Thatbeardedguy86]

This is a fallacy. Apple just introduced more ads to Apple products and apps. They're slowly rolling out more and more. Most people just arent actually paying attention or reading the user agreements.

[@ZombieLincoln666]

@@Thatbeardedguy86No Apple only uses ads for the App Store. Google is literally an advertising company

[@yourlocallesbian6448]

I never put personal notes and address on my phone, use paper and pen

[@danielkrasnopoias1418]

braxme youtuber said after Android 11 and up is better for privacy then ios

[@RutNij]

I am using /e/OS from the e-foundation. This is a de-googled android version based on LineageOS. I have selected this as it comes with its own eco-system like an app store in which you cab download apps anonymously. In the end it is all about trust in which one thing is clear for me... I don't 'trust' google.. Really happy with the performance of eos as battery lifetime increases from a single day to multiple days!! I can only conclude that there are way less processes running in the background doing something with my data.. One significant drawback is that apps like netflix or disney+ do not stream content anymore as I have rooted the device..

[@x-gamessimulator1067]

Yeah

[@thomasmeunier8669]

/e/ is shite

[@bridget2336]

I do so many things on my phone, over using my lap top or pad, including paying some of my bills and banking. I have been an apple user and an android user, and I will never, EVER go back to android. Sorry for me it’s 🍎 wall of steel iOS system.🤷🏻‍♀️ Security is BIG for me. In this day and age, with social media and how advanced we are on the Internet you are absolutely nuts if security is not the top of your concern, but for some people it’s actually not. I guess it depends on what you’re doing on your phone. If you’re looking for customization, gaming, etc. then sure, there’s more of that on android, so I guess security is not that big of a deal for you; most likely you’re using third-party apps anyway. I have an apple 15+ and I absolutely love it❤ I have it customized with pictures, daily widgets, and apps that I use, and it gets the job done for me, as far as phone use, and what I need it for. In my opinion, Samsung can be the biggest and the best but if someone hacks into your phone and steals your identity or whatever they’re looking for than all that customization, and everything else, is pointless. Listen, no one can guarantee 100% security, not even Apple, but if it’s between the two, I’ll take my chances with Apple any day.

[@benjaminjwilson6694]

I left my iPod in the dust because of the lack of, drag and drop. I picked up a zoom and stayed android ever since.

[@Malik-bv7xd]

Minute 5:00 user tracking I think Android they have built in ON THE MENU disabled camera disabled Microphone and last stop sensors. So I think Android is better and lastly it has more settings to give and permissions for app specifically ANTIVIRUS APPS

[@justsomeguy5103]

I pick Android as the lesser evil. I do envy iPhone users some of the privacy features, but Apple keeps making things needlessly hard to do when they really shouldn't be. Some of their other decisions also annoy me, like the lightning port or their active efforts to make their devices unrepairable.

[@esmailelbob]

I would say android as you can look at it's code and strip out all of it's telemetry and add more security (GrapheneOS?) like what happened with VScode and VScodium

[@AllThingsSecured]

Interesting take. So you’re saying that the fact that you can “de-Google” an Android phone is a bonus for you?

[@esmailelbob]

@@AllThingsSecured Actually yes, Google is known to be an ad company. So why not get the best of both worlds. Google's best software and privately.

[@manowar2816]

Amen

[@dadude-rs7ub]

I went with apple because I felt that apple always updates there software for a phone for about four years or so with android I feel like it is GOOD LUCK WITH THE UPDATES

[@VLKV92]

DUST is also a good messaging app

[@ToyotaHighlanderSE]

I have 6 old android phones that all run the newest Google play services and there all safe to use

[@BRAV-lm6xk]

I just switched on principle. I have always been an Android guy I had one of the very first Google phones. Always had Androids ever since up until IPhone 13. I just don’t care for Googles attitude any more. I believe they are into some shady stuff partnering with governments among other things. Not saying Apple is perfect but I think Google needs to be knocked down several pegs.

[@jason-the-great52]

The thing that gets me is, "Why does everyone keep comparing Android to iPhone?" IPhone is a piece of hardware and the Android is software. So if you're going to compare the iPhone to something compare it correctly to something like Samsung s23 or just the Samsung mobile. Going to go ahead and break it to you though. If you look at the CVE on this you will find that in Samsungs history they have about 400 total vulns and iPhone has some 3000. Rounded up on both. Android is just the starting point for the device. Because it is open source the companies can do whatever they want to increase the security of the device. Just because a hack works on the Pixel does not mean it will work on the Samsung and vice versa.

[@valvbl9022]

I go with the wolf Google pixel.not for photos for privacy Yes privacy.

[@x-gamessimulator1067]

I do not agree! I think Android is better at tracking than IOS. If it's on Android by the manufacturer, Android loses. But if you use a Custom Rom + Root + Adblock + MicroG. Definitely Android Wins with Custom ROMs. De-Google Phone

[@bharatchandra3822]

I am actually thinking of getting a compact phone for my daily routine can anyone suggest me any best compact phones which won't compromise on quality and performance of the device

[@ninjanerdstudent6937]

ZenFone 10. It is the last small phone ever built.

[@dannysmith713]

That walled garden had always had a back gate for 3 lettered agencies to waltz into when they please

[@bonnieburton7797]

Thank you for your program at least it's good to learn something I loved iPhone for a long time but now they're starting to take all kinds of shortcuts and I might be going to Galaxy but it has to be the Samsung Galaxy s at least probably the s21 or s22 you're so funny I love that I miss my old Nokia brick phone 🤣

[@limitedfair]

I dont get why people are pissed off just cuz a company knows what videos you watch for research purposes

[@theremixsong.4712]

The original Android doesn't track you because Android has no Play Store and no Google, it is an Open-Source project

[@johnnytwobyfour2592]

In my opinion, iOS takes the cake in both categories. This is especially true since after this video was made, only about a month ago actually, Apple in fact decided to go back on the CSAM detection that you talk about in this video; a huge win for privacy crew. For me personally, I became a first time iPhone owner (actually the first Apple product I've ever purchased) as of the 15 Pro, after being Android ONLY since the original Motorola Droid!

[@ram89572]

Last I heard they did implement the scanning though. I don't want any company scanning my personal files no matter what reason they give. Unfortunately there isn't a good option for a modern mobile device that doesn't invade the hell out of your privacy

[@theNimboo]

I consider iPhone to be far less secure for two reasons. 1 - Apple has proven they can change their mind at a notice. Gone is the Apple who refused to unlock a phone for the FBI. Now Apple willingly shut out apps during the Hong Kong protests at China's request. And Apple continues to allow China access to and control over apps. These things happened AFTER people already owned iphones over there. So they bought something they thought was secure, and then Apple just undoes it. Distgusting. 2 - Apple considered scanning local devices for illegal pictures. I don't give a shit what the crime was they were thinking of scanning for, the terrifying thing is that they considered it at all. Once again, just like above, people who had bought a device would have suddenly had a different device than the one they bought just because Apple changed their minds about something. Think of the fucking precedent that would have set. First they scan for CSAM, next thing you know it thanks to AI and image recognition technology they also scan your photos for firearms, pirated movies, music, drugs, you fucking name it. Hell, now that your device is basically a snitch spy tool why not fucking use Apple maps to report you to the police if you run a red light or jay walk? So ya, if you think Apple is secure you aren't Chinese lmao. Apple is only as secure as mass public sentiment. If people in the future become more ok with Apple devices reporting you for crimes, then suddenly they are a police state tool. The only reason Apple changed their minds about the scanning was because of the pushback. So ya, no idea how you could be delusional enough to think your device is secure.

[@jiffonbuffo]

Didn't age well. At least with privacy part.

[@bigdawg529]

I'd say Samsung is the expection with the Knox program

[@charlesdecker7540]

This is like android fourteen with One ui 6.1 Isn't it great?

[@jennston215]

At the end you did not tell us which is which

[@the_harbour_boys]

❤️ blackberry was the bomb

[@AllThingsSecured]

Haha 😂

[@chownzi2461]

A degoogled android is pretty good but out of the box i think ios is better for privacy google is tracking everything that's coming from an android user

[@ralphlouren6332]

Voy a dar el salto muy pronto a GraphenOs

[@mohammesalattar5404]

If those companies concerns about people privacy, So why they make digital contracts and they change it constantly and if we don't agree the highe price device's will not be usable ,So they don't sell as the device they sell the operating systems and contract to use our Datas and guide us to buy things we don't need and spend our money on companies ads to buy products.

[@AllThingsSecured]

If you don’t believe in their claim to privacy, don’t buy the product!

[@evandong]

RIP Blackberry 🥲

[@samerabdallah82]

Most big businesses use ios apple because of more security than Android.

[@infinatiAM]

If they themselves tap trust. What can you do?

[@homesteadishdad]

Or hold a gun to your head, sometimes literally.

[@thunderer035]

"perfecting"

[@niveZz-]

grapheneOS is actually very easy to use

[@therealjenso]

Well, since Google makes it's money from collecting and using user data, I think Apple wins the privacy war currently, but I'm sure Apple will wade deeper into that pool of cash as time goes on.

[@AllThingsSecured]

Perhaps. I think the greater threat is Apple needing to work through regulatory hurdles and adding new features that aren't privacy-friendly.

[@x-gamessimulator1067]

But, Android with Coston Rom NO GAPPS. ANDROID WIN

[@John-gt8sp]

Since the Apple business model is basically based on selling its hardware, they will need to diversify and offer more pay as you go services. As that happens, “Apple privacy” will likely diminish to some extent.

[@manowar2816]

@@John-gt8sp do you have a button in apple like advertising I'd. See

[@perkulant4629]

Except apple has started to make more aggressive moves towards advertising also. Both the same in my book.

[@atmainsituut7982]

I got a Murena de-googled phone.

[@Skeeter_Dee]

pour one out for blackberry a real homie rip

[@nelsonbutcher1]

Dude I could not deal with that crap in China. That place is a hellscape.

[@AllThingsSecured]

It’s a challenge to live there.

[@manowar2816]

None. Buy pixel and pit custom rom

[@eight-double-three]

Well, at the end of the day iOS is controlled by Apple, Android by Google and/or the respective manufacturer (Samsung, or whomever). So it comes down to whom do you vest your trust in. Josh went team Apple, and that transpires through the video simply by him having first-hand knowledge of Apple stuff. To be fair, he also disclosed that right at the beginning. The notion of the "Walled Garden" vs the "Three Layers" is a bit of an oversimplification, in my view. (Carriers customising the phone seems to be a US thing to me for one.); and I would have expected the term "Open Source" to be mentioned: most of Android is open-source, for example. Only the Google specific stuff and the manufacturere (e.g. Samsung) is usually proprietary, as opposed to 100% with iOS. And that gets us back to the first point: the "merchant" who ships the OS to the user (be it Apple or Google together with Samsung) are the ones who control what goes into the OS, what apps go into the store (and Google does have some challenges there), and so on. So the key is: whom do we trust?

[@RobertoFloresAndFamily]

Android (Samsung) for their sandbox environment Samsung Knox

[@manowar2816]

Apple hunger for wifi Bluetooth and sensors plus camera and mice running 24/24. You call privacy. On the end none is private from both I go with android.

[@WitchMedusa]

Android is more secure, look at how much zero days cost on Androids vs iOS

[@WitchMedusa]

GrapheneOS is very usable, I've even convinced 2 of my moms friends to start using it. My mom is still an iPhone user sadly. There are some pain points on GrapheneOS which can eaisly be fixed, it just requires the initial setup. Like the default messenger, keyboard, etc. Those apps all suck, install Microsoft SwiftType then disable network access so it cant phone home. Stuff like this. When I setup GrapheneOS for normies I try to make it as convenient as possible knowing they are still getting a MASSIVE privacy & security boost over stock Android, which is still better than iOS. For me security & privacy is king.

[@r3sgthepvs448]

Security updates come true play services

[@chuckgoodwish3897]

Harmony OS! The number one safest system.

[@gee7092]

Ios is more secured obviously because everythign is run by 1 company. Android is scattered and you can install unsecured APK wich Apple won't allow.