The Salt Mines

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CarlSagan42

CarlSagan42

Күн бұрын

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@CarlSagan42
@CarlSagan42 3 жыл бұрын
IT IS NOT TRASHCANNOT, IT IS TRASHCAN. If you haven't seen The Original Masterpiece: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5y3eZuhZZyhrJY
@Phantom87865
@Phantom87865 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@somewhatfunnyguyy
@somewhatfunnyguyy 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@pjsans
@pjsans 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@WackMaDino
@WackMaDino 3 жыл бұрын
you are so very wise
@nicholaswilliams2754
@nicholaswilliams2754 3 жыл бұрын
CarlSagan42 love your vids getting twitch too to see u!
@Koko-ku3io
@Koko-ku3io 3 жыл бұрын
I love how troll creators have worked around only having 2 cps at this point to have like 16 million of them
@david_ga8490
@david_ga8490 3 жыл бұрын
Xd
@Koko-ku3io
@Koko-ku3io 3 жыл бұрын
I just checked this what the fuck
@anothrto1045
@anothrto1045 3 жыл бұрын
That hundred death level got you too huh?
@hallowizer440
@hallowizer440 3 жыл бұрын
54 at max, but I don't think it's possible to have 53 or something like that.
@anothrto1045
@anothrto1045 3 жыл бұрын
@@hallowizer440 if you use all red coins and a lot of binary counting, I imagine it would take 20x as long to make.
@mattc4013
@mattc4013 3 жыл бұрын
1:21 Description: "Check the Rube Goldberg machine at the start." 1:46 Carl: "I guess this looks like a Rube Goldberg machine of some sort..."
@OLApplin
@OLApplin 3 жыл бұрын
the blindness speaking
@mauro_carvajal
@mauro_carvajal 3 жыл бұрын
that's carl in all his blind glory
@mattc4013
@mattc4013 3 жыл бұрын
Carl: "Where are the Rube Goldberg machine come from?"
@BlankTH
@BlankTH 3 жыл бұрын
Ye, but also I found it impressive that he identified it as such almost immediately. I mean it wasn't, it was a troll, but still.
@crimsonshinobi5281
@crimsonshinobi5281 3 жыл бұрын
But it was neither, it was a Rude Goldberg machine instead.
@WilfredTheBoss
@WilfredTheBoss 3 жыл бұрын
2:46 “I think” ❗️Independent fact checkers have proven this claim to be false
@Caribbeanmax
@Caribbeanmax 3 жыл бұрын
about 389000 ppl can confirm this
@Flibbertigibb3t
@Flibbertigibb3t 3 жыл бұрын
When you said checkers my brain just thought about the board game ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@incog0956
@incog0956 3 жыл бұрын
@@Flibbertigibb3t board of boards have concluded the statement is false
@WaffleBoi15
@WaffleBoi15 3 жыл бұрын
Shano managed to create a twice-twice and an actual CP1 at the exact same time. My life is complete. EDIT: He made more than one.
@geesegalore5594
@geesegalore5594 3 жыл бұрын
The little 1-Up Mushroom that bounces up in time with the "Bup" at 13:26 is hilarious to me
@will2998
@will2998 3 жыл бұрын
Normal YTers : Promote their merch Carl : Shows off DGR's t-shirt
@MrZaranthan
@MrZaranthan 3 жыл бұрын
Galaxy Brain KZbinrs show off their buddies' merch because cross promotion is always more exposure than shilling your own stuff.
@Avrysatos
@Avrysatos 3 жыл бұрын
Why not buy both?
@GalaticCyrus
@GalaticCyrus 3 жыл бұрын
thankfully, with each episode, we can see carl's growth. in the begining, he learned nothing. now, he's unlearning what he knew (and going progressively blind).
@lordmarshmal_0643
@lordmarshmal_0643 3 жыл бұрын
I love the "There's NO way I'm ending up in there" traps, Geek relatively recently played a level that was all about them haha
@windMind7
@windMind7 3 жыл бұрын
Share the video hahaha
@Pr1est0fDoom
@Pr1est0fDoom 3 жыл бұрын
@@windMind7 It's "Geek gets stuck in the box": kzbin.info/www/bejne/apS1gIyhYp5_nK8
@sannice
@sannice 3 жыл бұрын
Me too like such setups
@kRionikk
@kRionikk 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite type of troll is the one that seems like it wasn't actually a troll and you just trolled yourself, except that all of it was intended and you just sit there feeling stupid
@Glory2Snowstar
@Glory2Snowstar 3 жыл бұрын
Fun arthropod fact: stop motion originated from posing wired beetle carcasses. Somebody wanted to make a movie of beetles fighting, but the beetles couldn't survive the stage lighting as the heat was too great, so they used the zombified beetles as their new actors.
@CmFive
@CmFive 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know how to react??? Anyways that was a cool bug fact.
@Flibbertigibb3t
@Flibbertigibb3t 3 жыл бұрын
Noice
@maris_molotov
@maris_molotov 3 жыл бұрын
the beetles make good songs
@volcanic9120
@volcanic9120 3 жыл бұрын
I love that someone wanted to make a movie and just thought: "Fuck it, beetles fighting."
@thewordsmith7364
@thewordsmith7364 3 жыл бұрын
Haven’t watched yet, but I’m assuming he gets CP1’d at least twice.
@Avrysatos
@Avrysatos 3 жыл бұрын
Same. But there’s no way benevolent level creator will do that! Surely!
@nickydiamond9716
@nickydiamond9716 3 жыл бұрын
spoiler alert: yes he did
@sm4llb0i24
@sm4llb0i24 3 жыл бұрын
He does
@zombierecordings6184
@zombierecordings6184 3 жыл бұрын
This is true
@veykanine
@veykanine 3 жыл бұрын
Kill Confirmed
@connorturner4612
@connorturner4612 3 жыл бұрын
12:19 This troll literally exists because in the trashcan video call literally said "I just love it when there's three pathways laid out in front of you, and all of them are wrong"
@Willowplesure
@Willowplesure 3 жыл бұрын
dude, these creators are so amazing. the ideas alone + the knowledge to make such a level, with the amount of reuse of everything is mindblowing. 200h~ no cheese, no jank(as far as i can tell)! 2020 isn't all that bad after all i guess!
@veykanine
@veykanine 3 жыл бұрын
Shano in polish means hay. So people would say "UGH it smells like shano" indicating that someone farted.
@Luckysquirrel1256
@Luckysquirrel1256 3 жыл бұрын
People should consume less hay then
@geonsilberlicht4632
@geonsilberlicht4632 3 жыл бұрын
"Master, Master, I have good news!" "Oh, Shifu.There are only news. They are not good or bad." "Shano is back!" "These are good news." Gosh, those trolls are good. I love Shanos style
@oworth
@oworth 3 жыл бұрын
I completely agree. That was an incredible level, and is easily the best NSMBU troll level ever made. In fact, I think that The Salt Mines is my new favourite troll level. (:
@geonsilberlicht4632
@geonsilberlicht4632 3 жыл бұрын
@@oworth I wouldn't go that far - I still very well remember being just competely in awe and shocked after Mario commits key die. But yes, it is an amazkng level.
@oworth
@oworth 3 жыл бұрын
@@geonsilberlicht4632 Hi Geon. I'm sorry if you harshly disagree. Key die is very well one of my favourites as well. :)
@geonsilberlicht4632
@geonsilberlicht4632 3 жыл бұрын
@@oworth well, I wouldn't say harshly disagree. That would be exaggerating it.
@oworth
@oworth 3 жыл бұрын
@@geonsilberlicht4632 alright then Geon. Thank you for clearing this up with me. I'm glad you agree with me on key die tho (:
@bradstates3697
@bradstates3697 3 жыл бұрын
I just wanna say great editing. The quick clips and edits flow well with the pacing of the vid. It's something that keeps me exited when I see an upload
@davethelizard1463
@davethelizard1463 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Brad! I try to keep the video interesting and fun
@AetheriusLamia
@AetheriusLamia Жыл бұрын
​@@davethelizard1463yeah you should probably be getting at least 30% of profit if you're not already
@AidanWR
@AidanWR 3 жыл бұрын
I like the little "hello" that was added almost every time the chain chomp came up
@sata2396
@sata2396 3 жыл бұрын
A bomb literally lands on an indicator 8:30 Carl: What am I doing?
@kwisowofer9872
@kwisowofer9872 3 жыл бұрын
A guy walks into a bar... but before he could say anything a fish fell on his head
@AmosX360
@AmosX360 3 жыл бұрын
A Carl walks into a bar. It’s actually a box. Death.
@ezraguerrero2879
@ezraguerrero2879 3 жыл бұрын
There is only one explanation for this level, TROLL MAGIC.
@TheAdvertisement
@TheAdvertisement 3 жыл бұрын
9:25 Shano: Does troll while Carl's trying to explain something. Carl: Godammit Shano calm down.
@RefractionIX
@RefractionIX 3 жыл бұрын
19:48 made me laugh so, SO hard. OMG the brilliance of the second troll for the *same hole* was so good!!! 10/10 had me dying over here.
@hallowizer440
@hallowizer440 3 жыл бұрын
"Can you get a 1-up?" Proceeds to get a 1-down
@red-o7
@red-o7 3 жыл бұрын
As someone from India, that soap TV editing killed me from inside!
@hurkyl1560
@hurkyl1560 3 жыл бұрын
15:10 -- I thought the troll here was "Oh, he's going to trick me into pressing up and drop me into this spike pit ... Oh hey, look at that vine that just screams `hold up' that's where he's gonna getcha, so you better not climb the vine." And then... nothing happens. You just descend into the lock. 26:50 -- Ooh, he was saving it for the twice twice, wasn't he?
@driftwisp2797
@driftwisp2797 3 жыл бұрын
The solution to that 50/50 is to jump right before the platform gets to the vine. If it's going up, you're not holding up. If it's going down, you still have time to grab the vine after. The 50/50/100 is when it dips down, waits a quarter of a second, and then immediately goes up and never goes down again.
@immortalsun
@immortalsun 3 жыл бұрын
I love the little Christmas animation at the end and hope we get to see it again this December!
@FluXuaL88
@FluXuaL88 3 жыл бұрын
21:25 They ask you how you are and you just have to say that you're fine when you're not really fine.
@BigMan-hd7gy
@BigMan-hd7gy 3 жыл бұрын
20:47 “hello”
@kennethirgendwas4616
@kennethirgendwas4616 3 жыл бұрын
I was so confused when there was a pipe at the top in the last room, because i remembered seeing that part from above and noticing that there were only those two vine bits below a ceiling. So in the end i knew it was a different room, but it wouldn't have helped at all lol. That flag feint would still have gotten everyone.
@zeem3600
@zeem3600 3 жыл бұрын
4:12 As someone who grew up watching Indian soap operas, this edit had me rolling on the floor
@davethelizard1463
@davethelizard1463 3 жыл бұрын
Haha thank you!
@dyland5277
@dyland5277 3 жыл бұрын
The first Carl video I ever watched was Master and Commander. I immediately fell in love with your content, what with the science and the Mario and the tomfoolery. Now it’s been more than a year since I last watched any video from you, and I didn’t have as much fun watching your videos as I used to. I don’t think you have changed beyond recognition, nor do I think your content has gotten stale. I think it’s just time for me to move on. I’ll finish this video and then rewatch Master and Commander for the first time in years. Remember: Everyday’s a good day if you paint, Carl. Farewell, and happy Mario Making.
@wheatyfamily4867
@wheatyfamily4867 3 жыл бұрын
This isn’t Carl. The video was released at a reasonable time
@reese60678
@reese60678 3 жыл бұрын
Correct
@thanos4769
@thanos4769 3 жыл бұрын
It isn't Carl because the end of the video didn't have an educational discussion :o
@NotDanP1an
@NotDanP1an 3 жыл бұрын
I think Dave was just late on his edit so he had to post it late
@jlco
@jlco 3 жыл бұрын
He seems really tired, though.
@Numidea.3
@Numidea.3 3 жыл бұрын
21:12 @CarlSagan42 ok. proclaiming the stupid move, you're about to do, doesn't make it less stupid... But definitely funnier LMAO
@ottertvmtg6229
@ottertvmtg6229 3 жыл бұрын
the machine at the start was a masterpiece
@iTZBLaSToFFTiMe
@iTZBLaSToFFTiMe 3 жыл бұрын
I was just praising the Kaizo Block at 20:50 on Dave the Lizard's upload of this. So classic and perfectly placed. I love watching other creators' playthrough's of Trolls I've played. Thank you for also falling for the flagpole troll as Dave somehow whoopsie-daisied a win his first go around. My vid debuts next Wednesday. This level was so delicious, a lil' heavy on the salt though.
@CheekyRuin
@CheekyRuin 17 күн бұрын
I swear carl takes “how am i going to end up in there” as challenges snd HAS ro go in as quickly as possible LMAO
@KaeraNeko
@KaeraNeko 3 жыл бұрын
I love that you linked to the trash can in the description. It's thoughtful in a way that many content creators aren't.
@nowtoday8671
@nowtoday8671 3 жыл бұрын
I like the quote "there's more one up bullshit"
@Juniper_Rose
@Juniper_Rose 3 жыл бұрын
I love that Shano has mastered both the complex "every sprite used for a Rube Goldberg troll machine"... And the simple kaizo block.
@tyn5802
@tyn5802 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow did I ever need this today. I've been crying all day and had a nervous breakdown/anxiety attack after losing one of my guinea pigs to thyroid cancer that I've raised from a baby. I'm trying to distract myself from going into a depression and this made me laugh like an idiot. The part where he said "oh God he trained me. I'm a train choo choo" I started laughing to the point of tears. Thank you so much or being there when I need a great laugh.
@Adam-bs4vg
@Adam-bs4vg 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry for your loss. I’m sure he lived the best guinea pig life possible under your care 💜
@koura7883
@koura7883 Жыл бұрын
my absolute favorite troll level of all time. great job shano.
@shano1966
@shano1966 Жыл бұрын
@zarnox3071
@zarnox3071 3 жыл бұрын
The first clue that last section was different was there being a pipe above the vines, which wasn't there in the other version of that section.
@amazingagent1404
@amazingagent1404 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite editing jobs on any of your videos
@Greennoob2
@Greennoob2 3 жыл бұрын
This feels familiar to me, exactly what I wanted today. Thanks for the upload Carl, keep doing what you enjoy. Thanks to the editor also. edit: Yep that level was insane. I loved every minute of it, and I was so lost, I love it. (I watch stuff at 2x speed) It's insane to me that they can use the pink coin entity limit stuff to do this.
@davethelizard1463
@davethelizard1463 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@wrongrabbit
@wrongrabbit 3 жыл бұрын
A day with a Carl upload is always a good day!
@phuocthang2k4
@phuocthang2k4 3 жыл бұрын
"wow, greadeo, Carl! You're an awsome person when it comes to mario. You just jumped right into my heart!
@BRUCEYBOY
@BRUCEYBOY 3 жыл бұрын
Love your content bro! Been watching you since I saw you on AGDQ 2014, keep it going mang!
@MrCatzWiiU
@MrCatzWiiU 3 жыл бұрын
I really want to see somebody attempting to spin jump in real life at the same velocity as in this game lol
@phosphorus4
@phosphorus4 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like figure skaters.
@PenelopeStoneVT
@PenelopeStoneVT 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many times Troll Level creators discovered new trolls in their own level by watching Carl be bad lol
@RyanEglitis
@RyanEglitis 3 жыл бұрын
Carl: I know these sections, I've played through them many times. Shano: u thought...
@1insane614
@1insane614 3 жыл бұрын
That 1up bouncing to the beat of the music at 13:29 makes me laugh more than it should
@bokocop5725
@bokocop5725 3 жыл бұрын
30:06 Looks like you can softlock if you wall jump immediately after coming out of the pipe. The screen is not scroll stopped, and even if there's invisible blocks in the top row, you wouldn't be able to hit them.
@Ursling
@Ursling 3 жыл бұрын
This level was so amazing, I gotta go back and rewatch carls trashcan now lmao
@MAPLESTORlES
@MAPLESTORlES 3 жыл бұрын
19:20 More like when you're at a girl's house but you've only been on 3 dates.
@SmugLookingBarrel
@SmugLookingBarrel 3 жыл бұрын
I love the mix of enormous brain setups, and the tiniest of brain kaizo blocks.
@quintonhoffert6526
@quintonhoffert6526 3 жыл бұрын
"Carl complaining about Shano using the same troll three times" > ITERATION ON A THEME!!!
@LegoCowManZ
@LegoCowManZ 3 жыл бұрын
"Hello there." _Dying Grevious noises_
@th3R0b0t
@th3R0b0t 3 жыл бұрын
Editor missed a golden opportunity to have Carl's face superimposed on the "this is fine" dog, With Carl saying "everything is vine" Many laughs would've been had.
@jimsalmon5158
@jimsalmon5158 3 жыл бұрын
I like that new outro with Yoshi staring into your SOUL!
@FuturePulseDaily
@FuturePulseDaily 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!! So pumped to watch this!
@dialog_box
@dialog_box 3 жыл бұрын
shano had so much more respect for carl than carl deserved here, and yet all the trolls still worked! xD i guarantee shano expected carl *not* to go in the obvious unescapable boxes, and yet he willingly did, and then proceeded to get flung into them on his second attempt. chef's kiss
@anothrto1045
@anothrto1045 3 жыл бұрын
Man shano is definitely king of who would fall for that kinda troll double tap
@ehx3419
@ehx3419 3 жыл бұрын
That voice Toad makes when spin-bouncing at 20:47 kinda sounds like "hello".
@StacyMcCabe
@StacyMcCabe 2 жыл бұрын
That’s not toads voice that’s lemmy
@OLApplin
@OLApplin 3 жыл бұрын
Carl's trope is to voluntarily go in the troll soft lock FIRST by himself, and THEN get trolled the intended way
@joelchambers3728
@joelchambers3728 3 жыл бұрын
That flying pow, when Carl was waiting for it to appear I was waiting for the fish from above
@TyrantHeros
@TyrantHeros 3 жыл бұрын
There is more troll layers in this level than there is layers of pasta in lasagna
@lapischicken
@lapischicken 3 жыл бұрын
carl's trash can was and is still my all time favorite troll level in smm2
@panampace
@panampace 3 жыл бұрын
Even without the fakeout roller coaster ride it was a top tier level stuffed with quality trolls.
@FirlowXD
@FirlowXD 3 жыл бұрын
He always dodges the troll, goes in it anyway, then gets actually hit by the troll the next time... Honestly Carl, we all love you.
@justinkarnes3276
@justinkarnes3276 3 жыл бұрын
Great content as always Carl. Keep it up
@Spoinzy
@Spoinzy 3 жыл бұрын
14:08 You dodged a troll by not using your mushroom to jump up to the vines above you. I’ll chalk this level up as a win.
@tysonfontanez
@tysonfontanez 3 жыл бұрын
Carl's Trash Can was one of my favorite levels ever and I'm excited for this video. Also is that DGR merch?
@johannespaasche3365
@johannespaasche3365 3 жыл бұрын
Carl falls for every troll thrice thrice once coz he walks willingly into the softlockbox the second time the contraption the box is intended for gets him in there and a third time because he forgot the troll. I love this so much reminds me of doing my dumb stuff thrice thrice too ^^
@swordguy8
@swordguy8 3 жыл бұрын
This video was uploaded 2 days after the anniversary of Rube Goldberg's death. What a coincidence.
@KnottyTulip2713
@KnottyTulip2713 3 жыл бұрын
I knew the first troll would be FISH, only because it looked like a complex set up
@ToyKeeper
@ToyKeeper 3 жыл бұрын
I expected something amazing, and I was not disappointed. Shano may only upload once a year, but it's worth the wait.
@feasible
@feasible 3 жыл бұрын
I spent the last 10 minutes of this video with my hand over my mouth, staring in stunned silence. I was beyond even laughing. I was just amazed at what had been accomplished.
@TheTolnoc
@TheTolnoc 3 жыл бұрын
5:30 Remembering that one for the future, lol.
@ayushharish1881
@ayushharish1881 3 жыл бұрын
The Indian Serial type camera angles from 4:15 to 4:20 were awesome
@DubTI13
@DubTI13 3 жыл бұрын
I love that troll levels have evolved into "how hard can we gaslight Carl" the level.
@boltlight1244
@boltlight1244 3 жыл бұрын
4:12 The fact that I know where those sound effects are from is hilarious. Overly dramatic Indian dramas!
@oddpoppetesq.3467
@oddpoppetesq.3467 3 жыл бұрын
18:24 *Read in Reds Voice* "And this is the moment Larl realised why the shiny pit existed...." *ENTER* 19:48 Welcome back to ShinyVille, omg that had me dying of laughter 🤣🤣🤣
@kees0313
@kees0313 3 жыл бұрын
33:11 I think this is the best use of this sound effect ever
@morgantaylor84
@morgantaylor84 3 жыл бұрын
Carl: "Who puts in a Twice Twice and only bothers to change things after the FOURTH Troll?" Me: "From the brilliant mind of the mad lad who brought you Carl's Trash Box, the level that innovated the fads and meta staples of Knowledge Checkpoints and the Fake Auto-Level fad, comes the next brilliant innovation in Troll Level creation. Crouching Twice Twice, Hidden Trolls!
@theshadowforger775
@theshadowforger775 3 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw that rube goldberg machine, the first thing that crossed my mind was "It's just a fish."
@Essman614
@Essman614 3 жыл бұрын
36:18 Shano: Basically I'm a wizard
@Dontbanhmi
@Dontbanhmi 3 жыл бұрын
always enjoy carls vidoes
@cookieman910
@cookieman910 3 жыл бұрын
Good god, was that overly dramatic Indian TV show editing at 4:10? LMAO Props to Dave!
@davethelizard1463
@davethelizard1463 3 жыл бұрын
@Floodle9358
@Floodle9358 3 жыл бұрын
Shout out to the Prequel references in the editing! Always a fun surprise to see
@davethelizard1463
@davethelizard1463 3 жыл бұрын
the prequels are gold and we didn't appreciate it back when it came out
@clockworkharvester2663
@clockworkharvester2663 3 жыл бұрын
Carl when the answer is to do a very simple timed jump: is that the solution? That feels hard Shano (easily makes the jump) Carl when nobody asked: *what if I solve this section with a hard kaizo jump* (dies)
@clockworkharvester2663
@clockworkharvester2663 3 жыл бұрын
This also applies to defender
@TheAdvertisement
@TheAdvertisement 3 жыл бұрын
20:30 General Kenobi!
@gamewizard2008
@gamewizard2008 3 жыл бұрын
16:20 Phew, I thought he wouldn't fall for that!
@corican
@corican 3 жыл бұрын
This level got exponentially better each CP.
@andrewj1754
@andrewj1754 3 жыл бұрын
The 1-up music block is to get around entity limit restrictions. Nice thinking Shano! I might just borrow that!
@andrewj1754
@andrewj1754 3 жыл бұрын
Nice. I figured it out before Carl did :)
@Essman614
@Essman614 3 жыл бұрын
32:14 every troll is entity limit this is so great
@ViIvaNunner
@ViIvaNunner 11 ай бұрын
i thought that final room was different; i didnt remember seeing a pipe where those two vines were cause i remembered thinking id totally go up there and then seeing there was nothing there and that idve got owned
@besquareorbethere2680
@besquareorbethere2680 3 жыл бұрын
The ones where Larl gets punished for waiting too long always get me.
@AkumaAPN
@AkumaAPN 3 жыл бұрын
I'm curious to know if anyone went back and did the CP1 carl box room correctly on the first pass. (Putting the POW on the cloud to reach the door, instead of killing the Muncher and triggering the Rose music.) I'm thinking it may be a false reveal, since subsequent passes of the level are different, and you're literally never able to try to get through that door again. And since you beat the level without going through it correctly, it may be a completely fake Red Herring. But I'm still curious to know what would happen. Maybe it's a Dev exit or something. If you did go back through that door, you're back in the room with the pokey & vine. I noticed the wall to the left of the door is breakable blocks. Maybe if you go back through, an off-screen Bomb opens a new hallway to the left.
@junkogaming8467
@junkogaming8467 3 жыл бұрын
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@kyx5631
@kyx5631 3 жыл бұрын
Those creators are insane. Image they would channel their ingenuity into engineering.
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