I saw the last loyalist parade in Toronto, Canada (The Belfast of North America, it used to be called) in 1995. Very old men with orange sashes marched down Yonge Street. They controlled the city for many years but that's all done now.
@brenndelta52398 ай бұрын
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@lawrencelewis25928 ай бұрын
@@brenndelta5239the power structure of Toronto was largely run by Scots Presbyterians and Northern Irish Protestants in the late 19th and the 20th century until about 1970 or so. The orange lodges were powerful and certain ones controlled the civil service, the police, the transit system and so forth. If you weren't in the "right" lodge you couldn't get a job as a streetcar driver, just for example. It was after WW2 when the lodges started to diminish in power when waves of immigrants came to Toronto, from mainly Italy and Poland. The laws were pretty restrictive in the 1950s. On Sunday, no movies, no ball games and they would lock up the swings in parks so they couldn't be used. Hard to believe but it's true. Fun was not allowed on Sunday.
@peterbell31726 ай бұрын
@@lawrencelewis2592Sounds like what we call here in Scotland (the wee frees) the free Church of Scotland.
@johnnotrealname81685 ай бұрын
I know that there were riots there when the Irish immigrated in the 1840s. It is funny that the same issues there were brought with them.
@lawrencelewis25925 ай бұрын
@@johnnotrealname8168 The Irish outnumbered the local residents at the time.
@esklhrria5 ай бұрын
26 + 6 =.... 1 Love from the Basque Country
@bernardmcmahon35111 ай бұрын
It reminds me of the northern orange men winding people up, working class people against each other but catholics in the north had no basic rights up to the seventies, I believe Ireland will be united one day sooner than later, the northern Protestants may even like the idea of living in peace with their unique ‘orange’ identity celebrated without aggression, the whole island of Ireland could be extra prosperous ☘️🇮🇪
@noah-gs8tl7 ай бұрын
a lot of orange me. are middle class and some poor and also there where cathliocs in william the 3rds army and i went of topic with the william the 3rd part. And i’m a middle class orangeman
@VLSMITH10006 ай бұрын
Sure man, They were talking about peace, love, justice and togetherness before 1641,before the St. Bartholomew Massacre,before WWI and II! The Vatican will be ready to kill us Protestants again if they can! But we are ready for them! NO Surrender! God is with the Protestants! Long live Israel! Down the Catholic invention called Islam!
@paulmillar59542 ай бұрын
There's over 35,000 orange men, with maybe only 2 or 3 starting fights every year, so it can't reasonably be said that we're all causing trouble.
@thomassupplisson4721 Жыл бұрын
This is not an Irish nationalist song, it’s a protestant loyalist song
@yoshii63 Жыл бұрын
The versions commonly thrown around are. However this was played by the Wolfe Tones. A nationalist band. They change the lyrics so it's more neutral. The second verse leans a good bit nationalist with "and united we'll be when there's no more border line"
@callumring653911 ай бұрын
@@yoshii63 The wolfe tones, yes, they have a bunch of Irish rebel song, however, this is a loyalist song nor do they care about the loalists up north. They do celebrate Irish culture and whatever, however, this goes to show that they are sympathetic towards loyalist music. Like 'The Sash' that you had uploaded. 'The Sash' is an explicitly Loyalist song only sung by Orange Men and Women. The song could also be sung by people in the republic or Ireland... If they were Loyalists. So, this is an Orange song that The Wolfe Tones had played. Even Wolfe Tone himself didn't have hatred towards the protestants, but had wanted peace between Catholics and Protestants living together... In a Catholic country.
@yoshii6311 ай бұрын
@@callumring6539 this specific version is not a Loyalist song. Way more of a neutral song. Hell even a bit nationalist. Like I Said becuase of the line I put in my first comment. Most versions are Loyalist. This one however isn't.
@tjclarke189211 ай бұрын
@yoshii63 "most versions are loyalist" all are because its a loyalist song. It's like saying Come out Ye Black and Tans can be a loyalist song. Yea they changed some lyrics.
@tjclarke189211 ай бұрын
@@yoshii63They might be changed the lyrics but it's a loyalist song. It isnt nationalist at all. Changing a few lyrics doesn't change that. They sung the sash BECAUSE it was a loyalist song and they see it as part of irish history
@user-mr1bg3sz4i10 ай бұрын
I just love the actual music!
@roadend785 ай бұрын
God bless Ireland from the Scousers 💚❤️
@ray101mond5 ай бұрын
Oy I've got a record player to sell ya. One of a very loyal kind.
@yoshii635 ай бұрын
Fenian Record Player!!!! Might do that one next
@ray101mond5 ай бұрын
@@yoshii63 it's a classic in the Green Lodge.
@yoshii635 ай бұрын
@@ray101mond I bet. Listening to The Davitts's version of it. Might do that version for the next video
@ray101mond5 ай бұрын
@@yoshii63 check out the Wolfe tones version of the Protestant men which talks about the men of 98 if you're familiar with the Irish Good Friday agreement.
@yoshii635 ай бұрын
@@ray101mond it talks about 1798. Nothing about the Good Friday Agreement.
@FionanUaMurchadha11 ай бұрын
This is the Ireland I want a single nation state where we can all sing our songs (minus the bigoted and sectarian songs) together.
@vonbeedle5547 ай бұрын
The only bigoted and sectarian songs out there are Loyalist ones.
@FionanUaMurchadha7 ай бұрын
@@vonbeedle554 Maybe, but how many nationalist songs could they consider bigoted they could (Consider Celtic Symphony bigoted) they could Consider Amhrán na bhFiann as in the full lyrics in the original English it mentions "Out yonder waits, the Saxon-Foe"
@FionanUaMurchadha7 ай бұрын
@JacktheFilmFanatic-vu1nk I don't consider songs about the 1919-1922 IRA as sectarian personally, thats my one thing, they had popular support and legitimacy (73 seats out of 105) amongs the people but after the split in the civil war no they don't have support of the people and never will.
@johnnotrealname81685 ай бұрын
@JacktheFilmFanatic-vu1nkI do not thing you quite understand what sectarianism means.
@adrianharvison92692 ай бұрын
A very well known song
@donns535 ай бұрын
In fairness it’s not a bad oul tune.. especially if you write ur own words
@jakebeyond5396 ай бұрын
SUBSCRLBED Yes 👍
@crotchrottss6 ай бұрын
The version I know is about Buckfast..😮
@davidmccullough64366 ай бұрын
It sure is orange!
@marellelaverty61406 ай бұрын
Hooray for the RED WHITE & BLUE, The Sash my Father & Grandfather wore and God save the KING
@LarryMolloy-js2uk6 ай бұрын
Am I right in saying you're Australian? Like from down under?
@proddypapa79656 ай бұрын
this is a loyalist song .natoinalists are supporters of a united ireland and the republic .NO HOME RULE .ULSTER REMAINS BRITISH .
@yoshii636 ай бұрын
This version is nationalist. Also Sean-Éire na nGael go deo (Old Gaelic Ireland forever!)
@Pack_leader19896 ай бұрын
This is set to the tune of a American Confederate song called to forest from the brave Tennessee i love it proud irish American here our countries are intertwined us irish built america 🇺🇲❤️🇮🇪
@verynormalperson70036 ай бұрын
the tune of the sash my father wore has been around since the 1700s long before the stupid cnfederacy
@Pack_leader19896 ай бұрын
@@verynormalperson7003 ok but it still dosent change the fact its the same tempo an you know why because most of the south like most of this great country was irishmen an the Confederacy wasnt stupid our government now days is stupid unlike the Confederate government which respected peoples property an didnt invade other ppls country but greetings from America 🇺🇲🇮🇪
@Pack_leader19896 ай бұрын
@@verynormalperson7003an yes ik this is music before the us was even a country during the battle of the boyen between king William of orange an king james of Scotland in which james was jacobite an william was protestant the boyne was a protestant victory i love my irish, Scottish and welsh roots 🇺🇲🇮🇪🏴🏴
@verynormalperson70036 ай бұрын
@@Pack_leader1989 the confederates opened fire on the union fortress at the start, they invaded the union by attacking the fort and seceding
@yoshii636 ай бұрын
Only the chorus. The chorus in this version of the song isn't the Sash but the Green Grass Slopes of The Boyne - a British loyalist song.
@GoldenWembley6 ай бұрын
Why is the Accent so wonky ???
@yoshii636 ай бұрын
Old recording
@barrymcmanus8233 Жыл бұрын
Up Ireland 🇮🇪
@ATLmodK6 ай бұрын
It is insane and offensive to call this Loyalist anthem a Nationalist song when it actually the opposite and then to top it with the tricolor, that was illegal to fly in Northern Ireland until 1998, in the thumbnail demonstrates offensive ignorance. I suppose Men Behind the Wire is a Unionist song?
@yoshii635 ай бұрын
The Sash is yes a Loyalist song. However THIS VERSION is Nationalist "when there's no more border line" wouldn't you call that line a Nationalist belief?
@Dilkingt0nne11 ай бұрын
Yeah your imagery’s a bit mixed up there lad but it’s fine you know. And I imagine I’m the last person to tell you so…
@yoshii6311 ай бұрын
Imagery? Like the background images? Or the fact I called it a nationalist song which oh so many people have pointed out lmfao
@Dilkingt0nne11 ай бұрын
@@yoshii63 the background images
@irafan211 ай бұрын
This is a protestant loyalist song. Still a good song, but not a good cause.
@Beorthere11 ай бұрын
Is terrorism ever a good cause?
@irafan211 ай бұрын
@@Beorthere Not when its the orangists
@Kmc1qlAq8Dt6tpVC11 ай бұрын
This version is not loyalist it is clearly making a point for a united republican ireland. Protestants can and have been republicans before, eg, the 1798 rebellion
@dan-86011 ай бұрын
Is self-determination not a good cause to you?
@irafan211 ай бұрын
@@dan-860 No, it is. The Orange Order isn't, though
@Protestant1690710 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 0:37 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 brilliant know your place bow to ur English masters.
@yoshii6310 ай бұрын
I see a Loyalist here! Should have expected that. Yes. It's quoting the Sash. Yes. It's in the tune of the Sash. However this version isn't Loyalist. Also "English masters"? Yalls ass got beaten by countrymen with rifles lmfao
@Protestant169079 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂look at ur history iam not a loyalist. Iam a true patriot..🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 know ur place
@yoshii638 ай бұрын
@The_Great_Wars the only type of Loyalist I support. Thanks lad
@WjfhdhShshshsh7 ай бұрын
@The_Great_Warsthese are loyalists not unionist Aka neo nazis and uvf supporters
@WjfhdhShshshsh7 ай бұрын
@@Protestant16907 Your commander Billy Wright was shot ten times in the face Skill issue
@briansmith10296 ай бұрын
Utter lies I'm an orangeman the sash is not and never will be an Irish rebel tune
@yoshii636 ай бұрын
This specific version was made to be less of a Unionist song and more of a nationalist song. Can especially tell with the last verse