The Satanic Temple's Quest for Religious Liberty w/Lucien Greaves

[@Majeed.]

Lucien is a very articulate, thoughtful and admirable person. The movement is definitely a much needed force in the face of theocracy.

[@pastorofmuppets777]

Agreed ❤

[@Not-what-it-seems]

Thank you all for being respectful and kind during this interview. Thank you for being open minded about everything. Loved watching this.

[@FaithfulPolitics]

Thank yo use much, that means a lot! Hope you continue to watch and provide feedback on our other episodes!

[@soo31369]

Lucien always rocks🎉. This pastor Josh seems very peaceful open minded. Gives me some hope that different people with different faiths can really live and let live. HS❤

[@FaithfulPolitics]

Thank you for your kind words! It's important for us to have open and respectful conversations, even when we come from different faith backgrounds. Lucien brought some interesting perspectives, and I'm glad we could engage in a meaningful dialogue. It's through these types of discussions that we can find common ground and promote mutual understanding. Here's to more peaceful and constructive conversations! 🙏🎉

[@soo31369]

@@FaithfulPolitics totally agree with you. Thank you for being true to your feelings and staying open minded to others. :)

[@JohnWMorehead]

Thanks for not only talking to Lucien, but doing so respectfully and seeking understanding even when you differ.

[@e4r0r4]

May I ask you, are you a member of any of their churches?

[@FaithfulPolitics]

Thank you, we try our best. It's the premise of our show

[@JohnWMorehead]

@@e4r0r4 No, I'm an evangelical who works in multifaith engagement and religious diplomacy who has podcasted with members of TST.

[@e4r0r4]

@@JohnWMorehead Thank you.

[@brandonesthers]

❤❤❤this is the way ppl should handle difference and change ..... absolutely love this ❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@MsPinkStripedKitty]

Thanks for covering this. It’s something I’m a part of.

[@Nutmeg_6666]

Great interview! It is great to see those who do not 100% agree on some things have a civil discussion and try to understand each other.

[@FaithfulPolitics]

Thanks so much, that's sorta our jam for the pod!

[@janetd.8216]

Ok at about 9 min in, as a person who debates and listens to hours of debates and is actually FOR people who are atheists/agnostics, etc although I am a Christian…this so far is what we refer to as “word salad.” The conversation is congenial, which is what I prefer in an exchange of ideas, but it’s essentially saying nothing. And I cannot imagine listening to this for an hour.

[@kermit9978]

Civil discussion-is that why you joined in on a bullying session towards me all because Lucien Greaves told you to? I saw your comments. They were VERY hurtful. Nice empathy towards someone you don't even know or anything about all because you want to fit in and impress the 'satanists'? You don't know who you are. Which is why childish behavior feels familiar to you. Where you've never developed from.

[@GlaneciaXCat]

I came here to listen to Lucien Greaves, but I'm really impressed with this channel. I just subscribed. :)

[@FaithfulPolitics]

Thank you! Let us know if there’s anything you’d like to see!

[@faux_vampire]

The thing about Lucien Greaves is that he’s an amazing person. You can really have a meaningful conversation with him and he advocates really well on the issues. Currently I’m at the point when I’m trying to redefine myself, and he’s been a tremendous help and influence. Hail Lucien! 🔥

[@FaithfulPolitics]

Thank you for the comment, we agree that if you care about getting to know people, it's really important to be able to speak with them as equals.

[@kermit9978]

@@FaithfulPoliticsthat person is one of LGs deeply mentally unstable followers. You shouldn’t encourage it.

[@johnmchale9800]

dont sell your soul. the demons eat you and hell is hell, a burning inferno. pray to the holy mary.

[@Persun_McPersonson]

@@kermit9978 Are you a member of QueerSatanic?

[@jasonaltig985]

@@johnmchale9800😂

[@MsPinkStripedKitty]

He’s so true the way he handled it was the way it had/has to be 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@lexprontera8325]

Secularism as religious neutrality, an how to not confuse it with antitheism: My best way to picture it: Properly done, a secular society is a better home for Christians than a theocratic Christian state ever could be... because what are the odds that the ruling theocrats would end up being YOUR exact denomination? Slim to none. Everything would be a constant test of purity/piety/sincerity... plus a slide into dictatorship almost guaranteed. Meanwhile in a pluralistic secular country you'd still have all your religious freedom of belief anc peactice anyway.

[@lexprontera8325]

An example of this contrast is playing out in real life as we speak: Muslims enjoy a better life (prosperity, freedoms, safety) in secular pluralistic countries of Europe and America... than in their own - explicitly muslim - countries of origin. It's a contrast so blunt and stark and obvious I donxt even need to list the metrics and statistics, you already know.

[@janaenae1338]

I wish to now think about ways to open the eyes to the religious "opposers" to the potential pain behind the oppositions actions and the cause of their decisions to oppose Christianity in the first place. I wish to point out the silliness of the opposing actions of either side and even to point out that lack of understanding seems to be the fuel for fear and that christians may be simply lacking in an awareness of just exactly what being a member of the satanic temple is and because of that they daydream something that naturally would create a strong sense of fear and sort of react with intense emotions like they are swinging a sword towards a perceived giant enemy in the dark.

[@janaenae1338]

I apologize to all people who suffer from religious trauma because my mom just so happens to be one of those people and its a rather serious situation to me.and I just so happen to be one of those people who strongly over did the "I think that I get the message that that one Jesus guy might have been trying to share" due to a psychedelic experience that I had and I really really got overly excited and even may have shared Jesus content obnoxiously and may have even experienced a bit of intensity while doing so. my intentions were very pure and were always with a sense of confidence that every single person was going to be easily understood. I shared the information with any and everyone with the belief that i was able to turn every single frown upside down. when I first felt triggered to turn every frown upside down at the very beginning I had a less evolved understanding about the two opposite sides and I actually did begin my journey of teaching with a good guy vs bad mentality and it didn't take very long for me to come to the realization that every person is good in nature or rather somehow innocent and a victim to their own impulses or desires in some kind of way and when my eyes were opened to the innocence to all people, via astrological education and learning about my moms very powerful religious traumas a bit later on while studying the depths of my moms astrological makeup, my genuine care for all people who "oppose the push of Jesus content" truly started to develope and now my love and consideration for every person with every belief has transformed my purpose from "pointing out the wrongness of people with opposing beliefs " to "hey christians you've got it all wrong these guys are just unique because of their time and place of birth and if anything they are just a part of the whole of this universe and its ways of working with everything having an opposite to exist" here's the thing......when I do something that is the opposite of my normal way, I usually suffer from some kind of emotional discontent and that may be my own personal experience but due to my constant rejection from society I have the tendency to people please and not self serve because rejection or out right anihilation is always creeping around the corners for me because my inconvenient existence seems to make self serving behaviors intolerable for the majority of society so every time I make a self serving decision I suffer deeply from some kind of regret and so I have sympathy for those who self serve more then people please and develope a sort of sympathy for self serving people may or may not be suffering from internally and offer a mutual relationship of understanding, human forgiveness and desire to point out my own personal experience with the negative emotions I personally experience from self serving

[@someonesomeone25]

Hail Satan.

[@Þórsteinn.-le3rc]

47:30 / 1:03:58 Fun fact in 1994 When Marilyn Manson was a part of The Self Destruct Tour He met Anton Szandor LaVey I wish you would ask them about this American culture and the character Lilith

[@StarLopez-wn1fn]

❤ lucien is soooo gorgeous 😢

[@GlaneciaXCat]

I know, right?

[@Popular_Novel]

As against it as Lucien may be, I don't think I'll ever be able to see him again without thinking "Satanic Messiah" 😂

[@gulbaharsen1197]

O deccal olabilir Mesih değil... Kendisi bile bunun farkında olmayacakmış islam bize bunu söylüyor. Deccal bir anda ortaya çıkacak bir öfke ile.

[@witchywomen6650]

❤ 💯 correct! ❤

[@FaithfulPolitics]

Thank you for your positive feedback! We're glad to hear that you found the episode insightful. If you have any specific thoughts or questions about the discussion with Lucien Greaves and The Satanic Temple's quest for religious liberty, we'd love to hear them. Thanks for tuning in!

[@rickwalker6400]

I love Lucien he speaks well, very intelligent and extremely sexy

[@rickwalker6400]

❤

[@Jeff-si8uv]

You rock 😊

[@Jeff-si8uv]

Great job 😊

[@FaithfulPolitics]

Thanks! 😊

[@verjanhamilton6287]

So hes being honest about what who he worships unlike the Mormon, Catholic, scientology, jahovah witness and many other religions churches.

[@LynetteA68]

We don’t “worship” anything!

[@bat2424]

Excellent interview thank you.

[@FaithfulPolitics]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Jeff-si8uv]

Cool 😅 love ❤️ it

[@janaenae1338]

choices and also like to share the truth about how much happier I am when I choose to love others and serve others and literally how depressed self serving made me feel anytime I oartook in it. it was like people pleasing to survive as a burden to the majority somehow made some kind of sunshine and rainbows perspective that was noticeably destroyed and absent when ever I made the choice to self serve and this realization came to be through my unique circumstances. and seeing the moans and groans of the everyday individual on a regular basis was similar to the changes within my self during those moments of self serving which sort of opened my eyes to the cause of what I believe to be a sense of worldwide unhappiness and decided to point out a potential solution and reasons to feel motivated to take these kinds of behaviors having any kind of benefit whatsoever anyway bye guys

[@SinderellaScapegoat]

The love of Jesus Christ shows that he loves Lucien Greaves too. That's what real love is.

[@PontiusLucifugous9594]

I'm sure he would wholeheartedly disagree 😂

[@carolyncottier9466]

At least he's honest.

[@kermit9978]

He's not honest whatsoever. If he was he'd be financially transparent with TST which he isnt. If people knew how he dipped into funds like his personal piggy bank they'd be less supportive. Which is why the refusal.

[@carolyncottier9466]

@@kermit9978 Fair play if that's the case, and you know that from your own knowledge, I suspend my comment that he is honest...perhaps then not so.

[@ironsausage808]

Kermit9978. Any proof of that claim? Don’t tell me to look it up myself. I did and there is nothing. So your dishonest, or mistaken.

[@Persun_McPersonson]

@@ironsausage808 There's no evidence he's doing that with the money, since they're hiding their financial records we can't tell, but it is still suspicious that TST is hiding its financial records in the first place.

[@janaenae1338]

hi angel

[@RamazanYilmaz-gp4vq]

DECCAL

[@alainmaitre2069]

I mean an ISM . No satanism no christianism islamism etcetera . No isms .

[@e4r0r4]

It's early in our understanding of time, which is a measurement to try and understand the events of light being added and removed. Amongst other thing's. Which is pretty cool and inhibiting. Polarisation is a funny thing to be Amongst too. Life is a trip alright.

[@e4r0r4]

I would have thought that this would reach a bigger audience, considering the way social media is nowadays. I remember this being more aware of. The algorithm is suffering a Freudian? Lol Why didn't you discuss about how all agreed upon perspectives do indeed have forms that do not benefit society? That would have been a quite good subject. Appreciate the video. I found it quite cool tbh. 🤘🏻👁👁👁🤘🏻

[@FaithfulPolitics]

Thank you for watching!

[@e4r0r4]

@@FaithfulPolitics you are very welcome. Thank you for creating it. It's imperative that we find avenues to coexist through. If for nothing else, it widens our understanding. I do wish that you would have tackled the fact that there are factions of all your belief systems that have developed into harmful existences. It's so rarely talked about, that I don't even really know how define it across the board with any real conviction. As I haven't been able to seek other's understanding. Which I find I still need, even if I reject it as hogwash. It's something that if tackled correctly, could be useful to open the box of. I think people see it as such a negative topic, they aren't willing to tackle it without rejection and negativity being the sole driver's. But it obviously still draws some minds. Anyway, I'm just passing through. It's your world. Thank you for your acknowledgement. I appreciate it.

[@FaithfulPolitics]

You're not wrong in the harmful existence of many belief systems, the most pernicious being that of Christianity. We have dedicated an entire playlist focused on many of the experts that have spent their careers highlighting the effects of things like Christian Nationalism, and other offensive acts like the Doctrine of Discovery and Polygenesis. If there's a guest you think we should speak to that you feel will help further this discussion please feel free to let us know! Our contact info is on our website!

[@e4r0r4]

@@FaithfulPolitics I will certainly watch more of your content as it comes up. I really appreciate you taking the time to inform me of the work you have already done. I also appreciate the fact that you haven't been dismissive in articulating that, like other people tend to do. Something I have myself been guilty of. I wouldn't know where to begin to suggest someone who should be the focus, so you can interview. I do know that people across the spectrum have some really insightful observations. Sometimes I find that experts are so dialed into their niche, they miss very obvious thing's. As we all do, when we are dialed into a specific pattern. It's a precarious position that you are in really. Looking for a specific answer in a sea of multiple routes. I do respect what you are doing. I think it's imperative as I wrote beforehand. I really enjoy the fact that you don't interrupt your guest's. That is something that is rarely practiced. I think because people are very jittery about how they are perceived. Which is a shame, as it went from standing for something to standing for not being something. Which is cool I suppose as it's a spectrum that should exist. But not to the point where it's negatively effecting the outcome. I understand that that is a hypocritical thing to say, when I'm asking for all forms to coexist. But it's just how I feel. Thank you for spending this part of your existence with me.

[@Jeff-si8uv]

Bounty 😂 you’re kidding me 😮

[@alaindornseiffer2201]

Im for religious Liberty Tool, also for the satanists

[@johnmchale9800]

we live in the last days. worship the holy mary.

[@Persun_McPersonson]

@@johnmchale9800 The Bible says that no one can predict the end. You're a blasphemer.

[@kadoshlife]

Literal pointless brain damage.

[@smokyquartz5817]

Yes you are.

[@Jeff-si8uv]

Satan temple is awesome 😎

[@ChEM_TRaiL_HaTER]

I put my money on Jesus the most high Joshua Yahweh whatever name you want to call it but Satan will never be my God

[@jasonaltig985]

TST does not believe in either.

[@adrievisser3676]

jirrie dude jy praat kak

[@johnmchale9800]

satan is fallible. believe me. he failed many times. trying to get my soul. i do not want to go somewhere bad forever. i would rather live life for a little time, die and go somewhere good.

[@Persun_McPersonson]

Souls aren't real and when you die you won't go anywhere, neither good nor bad, as you won't exist anymore.

[@johnmchale9800]

@@Persun_McPersonson wrong cheshire!

[@Persun_McPersonson]

@@johnmchale9800 The evidence is on my side, not yours. You can believe what you want, but it's not based on reality.

[@johnmchale9800]

@@Persun_McPersonson true. nothing is reality. godbless. we all must follow our destiny. even if we really dont want to.

[@johnmchale9800]

@@Persun_McPersonson teach me reality. i beg you.

[@AmandaDowning-x7z]

My husbands spirit was returned back to the eye of his biological father before his burnt body hit the grave. So whatever and whomever calld from his grave i know it is not him because I seen him return to his father's eye at that table in the funeral parlour

[@AmandaDowning-x7z]

Staying open minded and ready to receive all messages from the heart. Don't let the Christian's at the backdoor open your heart to there ass they playing way to many hate games with trying to ruin my love for myself and others. Ignore thise i put behind me give there asses no place on the heart. They need to respect my path and stop letting ass cheeks override my hearts message being sent to my friends. I tried to make friends they showed me no heart only there asses and im really done with them

[@grahamchilds821]

Lord satan