The SC-Stop, Save & Close!

The Sound Couple heads off on a weekend roadtrip to a casino for the first time! With all of the functions of a digital board, it's always good to keep pushing yourself and stay up on all of the features it provides. Since this was a rare two nighter, we decided to break out the SD Cards and check in with the system through Worx Control. Bart is reminded that not all SD cards are the same, but demonstrates through troubleshooting that it's not always possible to remember everything but by building a knowledge base of familiarity with your gear, you can navigate through it!...or have the opportunity to try it again!
Important links mentioned in this video:
SD Card formatter
www.sdcard.org/downloads/form...
PreSonus SD Card support
support.presonus.com/hc/en-us...
Fire Tablet: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08...
Fire Tablet Pen:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08...
Fire Tablet Case:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B...
Please see our "About" for a more comprehensive list of gear we use.

[@djrickysmith]

I did chuckle with the sd card season button not responding.. good stuff as always👍👍

[@thesoundcouple]

Thanks! We like to keep it real!

[@hezekiahcharles6754]

Great video.....great work...👍

[@thesoundcouple]

Thank you 👍

[@peterziders7249]

You are both amazing and I love your honesty, I have a thought about a possible short video on Liability and equipment theft coverage. I've never viewed a video on that exact subject. and I know it"s a part of the business that know seems to want to talk about. Keep the video's coming Please!

[@thesoundcouple]

Great suggestion! We’ll consider that one.

[@giovanniannunziata1663]

👍 è un piacere guardare quando lavori molto professionale... 👍👍👍

[@thesoundcouple]

Grazie!

[@MichaelNatrin]

Great episode!

[@thesoundcouple]

Thanks!

[@johnsmetzer4263]

Nice. Thanks !

[@thesoundcouple]

You're welcome!

[@cuteeinjhel2186]

hi sound couple i watch all video you create such unbelivable... im richard from phillippines shoutout here... thanks

[@thesoundcouple]

We appreciate you watching Richard!

[@williamthesoundguybalestri1745]

Allen & Heath had that issue recording to USB stick. They fixed it on an update. Now when you do a shutdown, it does a CLOSE on the recording. It caught me a few times!

[@thesoundcouple]

It would be nice if PreSonus did this on their soft shutdown...not holding my breath!

[@HeavenlySavage]

Hi loving the videos glad I came across them during my research on cdl12ps I now own a few but I see a lot of people complaining about them clipping if whenever you have time would love to see you talk about the indication of input signal clipping, limiting and amp overload on these speakers

[@thesoundcouple]

We do show talk about this a bit in this video with a comparison to our 328's: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3yQiHtmrNqYpa8. We would agree that they do seem to be conservative on the clip. We don't ignore it, but we use them how we need to and not get hung up on it. We have used ours hard for some time now and none of them have had any problems.

[@rosswinley9247]

That quick Q desk is super cool, and extremely easy to use. The ipad app is identical to the console screen if you want to be portable!

[@thesoundcouple]

Appreciate the info!

[@johnmcquay82]

I like working the multi-day events; I don't get many bookings for them myself, I perhaps did 6 of them this year. I think we all make the odd blooper here and there. Last evening I had intentionally muted the DCAs, but was still getting sound out-front. It turns out I had the individual channels of the drums routed to the left and the right as well as through the drum groups, so when I muted the DCAs (the groups were tied to the DCAs), the mute had no impact on the drums. I haven't done a lot of parallel drum group mixing, but I'm giving it a shot to see how it works for me... The ChamSys QuickQ consoles are great consoles; I use Chamsys MagicQ running that from a touchscreen laptop, it works very well for me. I can see why Stacy likes her tablet though.

[@thesoundcouple]

The whole DCA/subgroup bloopers....been there/done that, and it will happen again!

[@johnmcquay82]

@thesoundcouple I have no doubt at all I'll do it again! 😆

[@scottproaudio]

I have found a “Full format of the Sd cards using the formatting tool is preferable to a “Quick format”. Also if it’s been a while since you used the cards it is advisable to reformat them as it appears the formatting doesn’t remain on the card forever. The Save and Close is a game changer to keep your recording on the card. Good job SC.

[@thesoundcouple]

Thank you Scott!

[@milenyum17]

good job. professional.

[@thesoundcouple]

Thank you!

[@BAdams138]

Seems like the gig was pretty simple once you finally got the location and offloading spots figured out. We had a Presonus32 at our previous church, but I did not play with the SD card. (Back to the manual) Nice gig; thanks for sharing!

[@thesoundcouple]

Thanks! Yes, hopefully we showed that process. Gigs are much easier once you know what you don't know. I was concerned that we left too late, but ended up having plenty of time. We had another casino type gig not long ago that was not that way, but ended up being a hurry up and wait!

[@BAdams138]

@@thesoundcouple yes you did show the stop-Save- Close process; probably applicable to other boards. Take care, and looking forward to next video / gig!

[@sethblackman8445]

cool djing stacey and bart cool ass

[@thesoundcouple]

Thanks!

[@calebgarn]

Hey Bart and Stacy, thanks for all of the great videos. I have watched most of them and I have heard Bart comment about pricing/quoting and charging the right amount. Do you have a video where you break down how you quote gig's?

[@thesoundcouple]

Most of the prices are based on what the bands production budget is and we will negotiate from there. We take our experiences to set expectations on what will work and most of the time, it will align with our regular clients.

[@calebgarn]

Thanks for the response. I will soon be stepping into a larger PA and light system and doing somwhat similar gigs to what you two are doing. I have been in and around the industry for 20+ years now. I am based in Somerset WI and hope to get the chance to meet you both in the future, possibly even refer one another. Let me know if that is of interest to you. Thank you again for all the great videos, and knowledge that you have shared. Sincerly, Caleb

[@alastairkeith8553]

The Chamsys Quick Q20 is a great desk with 10x playback faders and 2 universes (the QuickQ10 that you used on has 1x playback and 1 universe IIRC). It really intuitive and easy to use but not as flexible or powerful as Avolites Titan. As mentioned the QuickQ works well with an iPad for remote working and can be used with a free Magic Q visualiser for remote set up.

[@thesoundcouple]

Thank you for the info!

[@johnmcquay82]

Agree 100% with this. I would say the same if comparing it to MagicQ console or software, which is what I use. I'd be happy to use a QuickQ, but for the few shows a year I do where I have a bigger lighting rig, the QuickQ doesn't offer enough universes. I like to pull out the stops when doing the bigger shows, so I'll do things like pixel mapping across multi-element fixtures, which you simply cannot do in QuickQ. I did get to use an Avolites Titan this summer; I didn't get to do any programming on it, but I did think it was an awesome busking console.

[@ramdynebix]

It is generally recommended to format SD cards in the device you’re using it in if they are able (and most are)

[@walteralexander1956]

PreSonus does not support formatting or even deleting files from the SD. Also the reason it does support SDXC is because of licensing fee that they don't want to pass on to customers.

[@thesoundcouple]

Thanks for the explanation.

[@ramdynebix]

@@walteralexander1956 That’s unfortunate that it can’t forma, because it’s very easy to get disk formats slightly wrong and end up with very subtle problems.

[@walteralexander1956]

@@ramdynebix I agree... honestly I am went PreSonus for all my gear, and it is one of the cons how they handle SD recording and playback. Especially the difference between the console and the rack versions. But honestly with other issues that occur I just record with a DAW over USB.

[@XIIMonkeysMusicGroup]

I use a 14U SKB mixer case for my 32SC.

[@thesoundcouple]

Nice! SKB used to be a no brainer brand, but we are extremely unhappy with the ones we purchased for our NSB boxes. The latches are junk so you need to make be careful with them now! Our old SKB cases still work great!

[@PhatOtterStudios]

Lol, I’m not the only one that forgets save and close.

[@thesoundcouple]

As I mentioned in another comment, it would be nice if the soft shutdown would recognize this state. I could then see myself getting into the habit of shutting the mixer down that way to prevent this.

[@jamaicanforlife]

The SD cards need to be formatted to Fat 32 protocol. If they are formatted to any other protocol, the board will not recognize them.

[@thesoundcouple]

You are correct!

[@JMMinistries]

What’s the largest Capacity SD Card you can use in the Studio Live Mixer?

[@thesoundcouple]

32GB

[@DEWAYNE552]

All I have is the 32r mixer. Unfortunately, individual tracks are not recorded, just a stereo file is created. Have you tried recording on your SL32r? I have recorded my break music on the SD card and that is very handy because it can be stopped and started from the iPad. Choosing songs individually is not happening and that’s a bummer, but there is enough control for me to continue to use it for break music. I do record, I just have to do it on the MacBook using Capture. If the MacBook wifi is ON and the same network as the iPad, I can stop/Start the Remote Capture as well on the iPad. Both appear.

[@thesoundcouple]

It's nice to have all this flexibility if you are able to manage it all. Sometimes we find what works at home does not always work at the gig!

[@kertinaproduction5486]

Hello Sound Couple, the issue that i am having with SD recording is that even tho i select the channel let say 1-16 it will not records 5,6,7. I have no clue why is doing this.Any suggestions?

[@thesoundcouple]

We would suggest posting your issue on a PreSonus FB group....there are a lot of knowledgeable users out there!

[@CayroproductionsAdan]

Why don’t u set the main board by stage n just use iPad to eq?? That way ur not taking up Soave where ppl are seating? Just curious

[@thesoundcouple]

We use our rack mixer on many gigs. In clubs, we tend to default to a console if they have a designated spot so we aren't taking away a customer seating....this was the spot they designated for consoles...we weren't taking up any customer spots. Little did we know, that wouldn't even be an issue at this place.

[@shysingh]

If you had to buy again would you still buy those CDLs or would you get something else

[@thesoundcouple]

Great question! We have no regrets buying them. They sound great, have been reliable, and are versatile. However, we would shop around next time. I still don't think there is that one "system" that can do it all well, but we would look!

[@brianmoss5483]

Stacy B styling in the hat.

[@thesoundcouple]

I know....that hat has been a topic of many conversations!

[@djviper-zn1bn]

That light controller is 100% lights standard controller same as mine if guys wanna buy movingheads thats a good light controller

[@thesoundcouple]

Good to know!

[@DCAVL]

Just run full-size SD cards. The Micros fail a lot on me.

[@thesoundcouple]

We will continue to rely on our computer if we need to ensure we capture a recording. SD cards seems like a higher risk.

[@RegularTennesseeJoe]

If I filmed troubleshooting, KZbin would kick me out…😂😂 I use words that aren’t appropriate….

[@thesoundcouple]

We don't show those clips!

[@RegularTennesseeJoe]

@@thesoundcouple 😂😂😂😂

[@williamthesoundguybalestri1745]

Isn't it just so silly that your Presonus mixer has touch-screen capabilities and yet the much more expensive Midas M32 has a smaller, non-touch screen? I am NOT a MidasM32/Behringer X/32 fan for many reasons, and that's just one example!

[@thesoundcouple]

What's more bizarre is the M32's screen is smaller than the X32.

[@maebeans]

wtf presonus, that's such a backwards way of working, it's like they want you to loose recordings

[@thesoundcouple]

It would be nice if the soft shutdown feature accounted for the SD recording status.