The Scene That Changed The Incredibles...

[@DazzReviews]

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[@starboi141]

8:24 Didn't it say "TERMINATED" with white text inside a horizontal red line? Why is it different in the video 12:14 This one too didn't it just say UNKNOWN for Elastigril and KNOWN for Frozone? I don't remember this globe thingy

[@hannahmesa9607]

Gracias! :)

[@starboi141]

@gamingpotato2480 So the globe thingy is that just on Disney plus? Did they reanimate that part

[@marcusw.bryant4857]

13:00 I hear the music from Halo.

[@AokiZeto]

if its not elastigirl that check how thicc she is in the mirror i dont wana hear it, thaks to have come to my ted talk

[@bluebeanie561]

A small detail I've noticed with Bob in the scene with the big computer, he uses his index fingers to type because that's how he does when it comes to regular size keyboards due to being small for him.

[@bighand1530]

Never noticed that till you mentioned it.

[@NitwitsWorld]

This was the 50s so he probably would have problems with normal 90s computers or the iPhones. lol

[@nairamdiam]

@@NitwitsWorld hahahah

[@NitwitsWorld]

@@nairamdiam 😆👏

[@leesalee1540]

That's a brilliant detail

[@cherami-nox-fleuret]

one thing that'll forever terrify me is that syndrome probably carried out these murders without any regard for who he hurt, he killed Thunderhead who was a father of 5 adopted children.

[@bighand1530]

And also didn’t care if he murdered the kids of Mr.Incredible and Elastigirl.

[@spencerfrankclayton4348]

How did he kill Stratogale? Her cape was caught in a jet turbine. Thunderhead also died because of his cape.

[@neptuneplaneptune3367]

@@spencerfrankclayton4348 Acually where never told they died, just they got into trouble because of it.

[@thatonewaspatyourpicnic7978]

@@neptuneplaneptune3367 Pretty sure Stratogale is dead. You don't survive getting sucked into a jet turbine.

[@neptuneplaneptune3367]

@@thatonewaspatyourpicnic7978 unless she was a to hold herself from getting fully sucked in and was able to take the cape if. Also we dont see the Turbine exploding when shes sucked in and we dint exactly know what her powers are besides flying.

[@watertribeskye]

The scene where Helen has to tell her kids that the people on the island don't care that they're literally children and Will kill them if given the chance is SO dark. The fact she had to give her children that speech in the first place is pretty terrifying

[@clvz7773]

and the fact that I've seen that scene and this entire movie for multiple times when I was a kid and still not realize it until I was older is scarier

[@LeitoAE]

Some things can not be told softer. Here was something like a brutal rules of war where no one cares if you are man or a woman, senior or a child. If your guard goes down, you die. It is not a fair fight and there are no judges that make sure you are fine.

[@Minetic]

Heck that’s the real world though, I mean look at Gacy and all his killings

[@SiriuslyBlack7]

I know, right?Talk about giving your kids,"THE TALK."Damn..

[@Whoisthatguy906]

Ngl that had my heart pumping as a kid. Still gives me chills even now

[@gaylordrobinson1199]

The thing that makes this scene ever darker is that if you go back to the beginning, those supers that were terminated were all at Bob and Helen’s wedding. Those weren’t just co-workers. Those were close personal friends.

[@thelightseeker94]

I never noticed that!

[@jancojicanoder]

umm, no, the supers at Bob and Helen's wedding weren't terminated except for Gazerbeam, and yes, he was a personal friend but the other supers, they died because their capes yep, the "no capes!" scene shows their death

[@gtdc4685]

@jancojicanoder Only a few died because of the capes. The others died to Syndrome

[@finley9317]

@@jancojicanoderspreading false info eh

[@sanddry738]

I never realized just how dark these parts are. The fact that Frozone was next and only escaped due to luck is chilling. Absolutely amazing film

[@david91lvb]

It's even darker when you see the theory about Syndrome's parents possibly being supers that were apart of the ones that he terminated

[@bobbyc1120]

Everything about Frozone is chilling, really.

[@samuelyzaiarttyn1382]

@@bobbyc1120yes

[@KajianTemp]

@@bobbyc1120 Ha-HAH! Never heard THAT one before...

[@derekmaullo2865]

Kronos balls are sexy. This scene was perfect by Brad Bird

[@medo5417]

That scene is just so dark, but its amazing. It lets the audience know that Syndrome is a real threat and not just another "kids movie villain"

[@patrickzalatoris3206]

I mean jeez, syndrome killed dozens of supers so he could somehow prove that you dont need super powers to be a superhero

[@cartooncottage2024]

Facts.

[@cartooncottage2024]

@@patrickzalatoris3206 Yeah, it is quite dark. Syndrome also proved to be right. You don't always need superpowers to be super. He proved it. It's terrifying.

[@swiftstreak98]

Sydrome is Pixar's equivalent to Norman Osborne

[@user-qv4fq3lu2z]

@@swiftstreak98 that's surprisingly accurate

[@ronangilvary600]

A small detail I noticed is when the display is showing the heroes eliminated, the first couple heroes are psychic or clairvoyant. It's like Syndrome knew he had to get rid of the extra-sensory types first to pull off such a secret plan.

[@katelinmcmillan8998]

Wow, never thought of that, this type of two steps ahead thinking makes syndrome very dangerous

[@defaulted9485]

Double purposes. Eliminating whistleblowers and also physical testing for the Omnidroid. Robot barely gets affected by mind/psychic which probably considered since the robot were on tiny wheels and can be disabled easily.

[@NomDatBass]

Another factor was likely that he felt they'd be easiest to beat first, making them the best test subjects for the earliest prototypes. You'd want to wait until you worked out at least the most obvious or major design flaws before tackling a "real" threat, after all.

[@vladislavivanov2334]

Wonder though how he managed to Lite them onto closed Island with murdering robot Rolling around

[@FatherGiraffeKaku]

There’s a theory that the first heroes he killed off worked as a hero team and together owned the island, one of them being Gazerbeam. That would explain why he knew the password to the computer. Also, there’s another theory that two of the first heroes were in fact syndrome’s parents who he killed off to take control of the island. If this were true, then that would explain why syndrome was so smart, possibly giving him super intelligence as a superpower.

[@galghoul3042]

You know what makes it even worse? Several of the people Bob is watching on the screen listed as dead? They were present in his wedding. Gazerbeam had a front row seat, a seat usually saved for family, and Bob found him as a skeleton. Bob loved and trusted them enough to share his and his fiancée's secret identities with them, and he just saw all of them listed dead with only a beep to each name.

[@BizVlogs]

But also, they’re not going to come up with a completely new design for a background character in a flash back 🤷‍♀️

[@galghoul3042]

@@BizVlogs Good point, lol. I guess they just took the chance to both amp up the dark and save themselves some work

[@bibbobella]

That makes me question how they never found Mr. incredible earlier. There is no way, that someone as obsessive as syndrome would have known that they would know about eachother's secret identity. That tells me that he either didn't want to know about the other supers from them and wanted to find out about their identities by himself...or...they were so loyal that even when questioned and potentially tortured...they never told on their fellow supers.

[@samuellanghus1455]

@@bibbobella No. I’m betting Syndrome “saved” his idol, his “inspiration,” the “man good enough to prooftest the _FINAL DRAFT_ of his ultimate creation,” Mr. Incredible, for last. First, you see how much “Incrediboy’s” obsession puts Bob Parr in the safest spot until the very end. But also, you don’t let your enemies know that you are enemies until the last possible second, if at all. Dead men tell no tales.

[@galghoul3042]

@@bibbobella I think it's rather noticeable that Syndrome doesn't care about the other Supers. He only pays that excessive attention to Mr. Incredible, the others were only playthings for Syndrome to keep on improving his drones. I'm willing to bet the other Supers didn't even know about Syndrome's obsession with Bob. If interrogations did happen, then yeah, I'm also willing to believe they were that loyal.

[@-12Sided]

You’ve got to appreciate the neat detail of the fact that Mr Incredible is such a good man. Look what he did in this scene. He finds out all of the supers he knew had been exterminated and is under a ton of grief, shock, and stress. When he makes his search he looks up his wife first, then his best friend, THEN himself. That order shows just how selfless he truly is.

[@kianrodriguez4455]

And then you see his sort of relief when it says that Helen isn't listed there

[@-12Sided]

@@kianrodriguez4455 Exactly!

[@lordbluebaron2270]

Well you could argue that he already knew where he was and probably guessed that these people knew his status and where he was.

[@Zenny6432]

@@lordbluebaron2270 Who's "he". Mr. Incredible was relieved that Elastigirl (Helen or his Wife)'s Location was unknown. The reason why Incredible and Frozone's location were known was because of that scene of the building crashing down and Mirage finds them. But no idea about Helen. WHY? Because the marriage was in secret so Syndrome and his ORG. can not assume that Elastigirl was with Mr. Incredible even though his location was found.

[@blameitoncapitalism]

no, it doesn't really shows he's "selfless". He searched himself last because he KNOWS he is alive, obviously, and he also does know Syndrome thinks he is dead, because he had seen the robot in the cave "confirming" he is not alive. While he searches for Helen and Frozone out of really trying to know if Syndrome has their location, he searches himself only to confirm his status as dead in syndrome's system - but he already knows what he'll find, so that's later in order of priority. I don't understand how come some got it wrong. His whole character development arc is that he needs to stop being so selfish, self centered and stuck in his own as-I mean stuck in the past, and learn to trust in and depend on other people. At that point in the movie, he hasn't learn any of that yet. Of course he is a good man and a hero. But he is also a flawed human, which is great, and his bigger flaw he has to overcome is precisely his self centered, egocentric nature.

[@enzirin_p]

As a kid, I didn't think much of that one scene where Mr. Incredible was being pulled/stretched by the Omnidroid on their first encounter, then realized as an adult that some supers *may* have actually died that way [as in, pulled apart so hard they're no longer in one piece], especially as some supers were not necessarily physically strong/resilient like Mr. Incredible.

[@samuellopez479]

….damn. I’m never forgetting that idea. Oh God

[@catastrophefx]

Yeah, it's scary on how some of the supers that have been victimized had experienced death in some of the most brutal ways

[@acesword7111]

Never wear a cape

[@_Malvar]

in the console, it showed that syndrome knew the location of frozone. mirage was originally sent to get frozone, but they swapped targets when they realized Mr incredible was there. the first omnidroid that mr incredible fought was meant for frozone. that's why it cornered mr incredible in the lava area and tried to stretch him. frozone would've been killed immediately. note how during their rescue in the burning building, frozones power is useless because there isnt water in the air, just like in the area where the omnidroid trapped mr incredible.

[@yemaya_la22]

⁠@@_Malvaroh my God!!!🤯🤯

[@kovatsits1437]

It's worth noting that phase two is initiated after the robot supposedly killed Mr. Incredible. No more searching for other superheroes, to improve the bot, because in Syndromes eyes, he is still the best and if he couldn't defeat the robot, then no one can.

[@pizzawashere8940]

Exactly, once he realises the robot has mr incredible defeated, he says "it's finally ready"

[@sbkeel5639]

Syndrome: "After you trashed the last one I had to make some major modifications."

[@bluepythonproductions]

Technically the robot never beat him though. He was caught off guard the second time, and the reason he supposedly died was because Syndrome threw a bomb in the water. But your point about Syndrome thinking it was perfect after the Mr. Incredible fight still stands, it just shows his flawed logic

[@sbkeel5639]

@@bluepythonproductions the mark 9 robot did beat Mr. Incredible even if it was by surprise it had its blades at his neck if Syndrome hadn't stopped it to explain the situation so he could gloat then I'm afraid Mr. Incredible would have died there...

[@kenstorm707]

@@bluepythonproductions It did still win. Not to mention that Mr. Incredible couldn't destroy it on his own in the city. It took the entire family + Frozone to destroy it.

[@raphaeldagamer]

Another fun fact, the omnidroid Mr. Incredible initially fought, the v.8, was acting as though it were fighting Frozone as made clear by the robot forcing Mr. Incredible into a volcano, an environment in which Frozone would have become quickly dehydrated and unable to lay down any amount of ice, rendering his powers useless. Mirage also made mention of "switching targets", that and the line "the fat guy's still with him" indicate that Frozone was the superhero the Omnidroid was intended to battle.

[@theextremeanimator4721]

JESUS CHRIST!

[@neptuneplaneptune3367]

They had probably no time to change its battle strategies, as they are most likley carefully calculated to fit the next Super. That's also why Mister Incredible stood nonchance against V.9 as he was made to deal with him in the best way possible, with V.10 basicley just being a bigge3 version of 9 with black paint, a Red eye and the laser gun. The first two probably being modifications made to make it look even mire villianous

[@raphaeldagamer]

@@neptuneplaneptune3367 that's also probably why the entire family along with Frozone was able to take it down. Syndrome had made it to be able to take down any super it had already fought and battle the next one it was meant to fight, but it wasn't prepared to fight Mr. Incredible, Elastigirl, Frozone, Violet, and Dash simultaneously in a city. If I were Syndrome, I would have postponed the Omnidroid launch to add in certain aspects like the omnidroid detecting heat signatures to be able to see Violet, or maybe try to enhance speed and reaction time to fight Dash.

[@neptuneplaneptune3367]

@@raphaeldagamer yeah it was pure brute strenght and nothing more. Certenly powerfull but lacking any true finer necessaties. The entire thing was meant fore 1 VS 1 combat. If I where him I would have allowed the Famaly too escape let. The V9 chase them and see how it does. Based on that I would have upgraded it and maybe continued inviting Heroes but this time in groups, to see how the Omnidroid faires.

[@infaRedGhost]

@@neptuneplaneptune3367 it makes sense considering syndrome considered mr incredible the biggest threat out of any hero so he thought if mr incredible couldn’t defeat it then no one can

[@YinYangAngel55]

The quote I remember most from this movie is Helen talking to her kids in the cave. Parents always tell their kids in scary situations "it'll be ok, you're fine" but she tells them the complete truth of their situation. "You remember the bad guy in those cartoons you watch? Well these bad guys, aren't like those guys. They won't show restraint because you're children. They will kill you if they get the chance. Don't give them that chance." She straight up tells them that this is how the real world works and I want you survive it.

[@Kahtisemo]

Not just that, but most movie parents would say something like "stay here where it's safe" or "until I come back". The thing is, she doesn't know if she'll be back, and wants them to know that nowhere is safe. Staying in the cave won't protect them. Staying out of trouble won't protect them. Waiting for her and dad to come rescue them won't protect them. If trouble comes, they need to use all of their power and every resource they have to stay alive and maybe get out of there. Like when she tells Dash to run as fast as he can, she doesn't tell him to stay with Violet. She wants them to look after each other but their own survival is more important.

[@smugsuphia7846]

And she’s absolutely right. When Dash and Violet were confronted by Syndrome’s goons, they only hesitated for a moment before realizing they’re supers. Once they put two and two together, they immediately shoot to kill.

[@WaffleEBay12]

That may be the first time she actually encourages them to use their powers too (other than Violet on the plane). She knows the gravity that they're in way over their head, but she is concerned about her husband too. I love that scene.

[@mr.x991]

Ahh Helen. Thickest brain AND thickest a-

[@alijd6287]

I can hear the dialogue with quiet enthusiasm from helen not wanting to take dash's entire childhood away from him in that moment: Helen: I want you to run as fast as you can Dash: as fast as i can?! Helen: as FAST as you can! ugh this movie is intense and brilliant!

[@thegoodstuff6130]

Its super interesting that the first super killed by Syndrome was Universal Man as he was one of the few, if only, supers that refused to have a secret identity, preferring to be in costume and fighting crime constantly, makes sense Syndrome would find him first.

[@katelinmcmillan8998]

Never thought of that, interesting detail

[@realrobrose]

Nothing tops the intensity of the plane scene after this. l don't think I'll ever forget "Abort! Abort THERE ARE CHILDREN ABOARD THIS PLANE!" and how desperate she sounded while poor Violet is being yelled at to do something she can't possibly do to save them all, Mirage looking horrified by what's she's apart of and Mr. Incredible knowing he's paralyzed about to hear his kids die

[@stevenkreft4326]

In the original script Snug, dies on the plane.

[@adidi_]

@@stevenkreft4326 oh its public? where can i find it? o:

[@adidi_]

@@stevenkreft4326 but at the same time holy shit????

[@stevenkreft4326]

@@adidi_ It's in the bonus features on the bluray.

[@sheetpostmodernist398]

Yeah, the tone of the movie in this scene is a gut-punch, but the aircraft scene is where you realize that no, it wasn't a punch, and yes, that twist you feel is a _knife._ The fact that Helen spends that entire sequence rattling off military aircraft comm calls and terminology makes me really appreciate the amount of research they put into the scene.

[@donnamitsuki281]

I think I'm starting to realize why The Incredibles kinda scared me,I didn't hate it but I remember avoiding it at times. This movie had legit death,Syndrome was a legitimate _genocider_ for the sake of his plan. And if you had the DVD like I did,that came with a second disc with special content,you could find interviews with other heroes,quite interesting.

[@bara6218]

Same. I liked it but I never wanted to watch it alone, some of the scenes really scared me.

[@lalalanddddd7584]

not only that, the scene were that guy jumped off a cliff, were he nearly committed suicide, it was so normal to me when i was a kid and now idk tbh

[@donnamitsuki281]

@@bara6218 I had go ask to my parents to stay with me to,I remember,I never watched it alone. I didn't watch the extra disc alone either,since not all heroes had interviews and a voice came in,pure silence but only the voice. To this day,voices with no background noise creep me out. I didn't comprehend it fully back then,but I guess part of my brain understood: _All these people are dead._

[@donnamitsuki281]

@@lalalanddddd7584 and it isn't even subtle,the guy quite literally says "you didn't save my life,you ruined my death". This is the kind of movie I like,despite saying I was a bit scared back in the day,a movie that doesn't underestimate its audience and can be still be enjoyed years later and have more and more details noticed.

[@MrAuthor3DS]

Even more despicable is that Syndrome killed all those heroes just to _put on a show._ He didn't care about a hero's values, just the spectacle.

[@usernamesmeannothing]

Honestly, the fact that a man almost killed himself in a Pixar movie, in the opening sequence, really set the tone for this film. For the most part.

[@theflickchick9850]

I remember being really young and seeing that and asking my mom- "Why?" and she just plainly explained it to me. Dang, I think I was in the third or fourth grade but it didn't hit me how important that scene was until I rewatched it as an adult.

[@kimballbelliston5925]

When I was a kid I thought it was a stunt or something...

[@deadboltzz5199]

I thought it was hilarious especially when he sued Bob. 🤣

[@Ceilingcat9001]

>ask parents where babies comes from, do they explain how all life happens? No, they dance around saying naughty words and sidestep the question with a nursery rhyme. >Ask parents why Mr.Incredible wanted to end himself? "He's a broken shell of a man. He has been to the mountaintop and he was all alone. Now hes old, his dreams are dead and he's all washed up. His wife thinks he's cheating. His kids think he's a joke. Life is cruel to her best soldiers. He keeps hearing his old life call to him, more like ghost calling him to the grave...."

[@dodowhisperer2114]

@@kimballbelliston5925 yeah my mom just said it was a stu t for a movie and I put 2 and 2 together and figured that was really why he was being sued

[@Zarola]

I feel like another moment is on the plane when Helen calls into the control tower and the switchback to Syndrome saying to terminate the plane. The pacing of the realization on both side that the plane is going to be destroyed is just as scary as Bob getting captured. Syndrome showing how crazed he was. Helen's desperation. Violets anxiety spiking to attempt a force shield. Mirage's shock that children are aboard and about to die. Bobs despair and anger resultant to attack Mirage was phenomenal. First time I can remember a villian killing children they aren't close to. I was already scared for Bob but it got even more intense

[@michaelstrong5383]

"NO!! Call off the missiles! I'll do anything!!" "Too late! Fifteen years too late." That entire plane scene is intense, but that brief exchange between Bob and Syndrome always give me chills.

[@pizzawashere8940]

Him crying as Syndrome walks out is fucked. I think as a kid I didn't feel it as hard cause WE knew his family survived, but putting ourselves in his shoes, thinking his wife and children just died is horrifying

[@Zarola]

@@pizzawashere8940 and the camera panning out making him small too

[@michaelstrong5383]

@@pizzawashere8940 Not to mention, the first thing he did after hearing that his family died was threaten to crush Mirage. Even when Syndrome insists he does so, Mr. Incredible does realize that killing another person won't bring his family back. I don't think there's ever been a Pixar protagonist who has gotten this dark before or since then.

[@WolfGr33d]

The plane scene was definitely another one of the movies highlights, but it's just a tad sporadic with short comedic intervals followed by short dramatic intervals. Think it could've been more impactful if they had let the mood resonate a little, and especially if they had hidden Helen and the kids survival from the audience (just for a tad) just as it was hidden from Bob's knowledge. Still, it truly is a well orchestrated scene that tugs the heart strings. The desperation of Helen's voice shouting "There are _CHILDREN_ on this plane!" to her frantically repeating "Abort! Abort! Abort!", the hesitation in Mirage realizing that things are getting too extreme, and the broken state of despair of Bob is left in at the aftermath of it all.

[@SavageGreywolf]

Another thing about the computer scene is that it shows us things about who Bob is. His first instinct is to search for Elastigirl- he already knows she's alive, but he's afraid whoever the maniac killing supers is might know where she is- and by extension, where the rest of his family is as well. After this his next instinct is to search for his best friend. He's looking out for the people closest to him.

[@Guardianten2002]

Another note about the Supers being shown then marked as terminated. If you watch the wedding scene, several of them are there bearing witness to his matrimony. This indicates that not only did they care about this joyous moment but they knew him personally in his regular life as well as his super life. Being forced to watch as the screen shows them being written off as a statistic for Syndrome's experiments and the look on his face as he realizes that so many of his friends from the old days are gone, you can feel his agony at this revelation.

[@mistymorning1010]

If the other super were interrogated to reveal where other supers were they didn't. Or at least we know that they didn't tell where Bob and his family was.

[@YouVSMeTV]

I saw this in theatres. When this scene happened, people were gasping, somebody mumbled "Jesus" and an older gentleman in the back said in a somber tone "he killed them all." I thought to myself, "this guy is a genocidal maniac." I still remember it like it was yesterday and it is indeed one of my favorite scenes of all time, from one of my favorite movies of all time.

[@kailet1997]

When a kids movie got adults talking, you know its good

[@AbrasiousProductions]

Wow.. What a haunting experience

[@tank2224]

Yea my mom loved this movie

[@YouVSMeTV]

@@tank2224 what did she think of incredibles 2?

[@IamtheSpy2005]

Why does Samuel Jackson always get the role of someone who's getting hunted down and genocided by a corrupt leader (Order 66)

[@ComicalRealm]

Fun fact: The Incredibles line "You sly dog! You got me monologuing!" was voted as the #15 of "The 100 Greatest Movie Lines" by Premiere in 2007.

[@rubub8455]

that makes me happy

[@Dxuser5]

I’ve seen em, I’ve seen em again!

[@OmniNeon900]

Please do not use Tik Tok, it tracks your IP address and was created by the Chinese government to gain intel on other countries and their geography. It has recently been banned by the US military for security issues. People currently active in the army are not allowed to have Tik Tok downloaded on their phone.

[@Dxuser5]

@@OmniNeon900 I can't even tell if this is true or not lol

[@rubub8455]

@@OmniNeon900 why are you telling us this

[@lemonpaperplanes]

Honestly the sticky ball scene is what scared me the most in this movie, absolutely terrifying

[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

Same. As a kid I was freaked out

[@LORDOFDORKNESS42]

It's great. Those cannons are just such a great glimpse into what a threat Syndrome actually is... If not for his dang ego, he'd trounced the entire superhero community basically single-handedly. It's rare that a super smart villain gets to be that, well, smart.

[@michaelstrong5383]

Just the quick cuts between the cannons and Mr. Incredible trapped with those sticky balls, struggling to move, always leave me a little overwhelmed. God, I love this movie!

[@SmoothyCriminal]

Whenever I watch a movie, especially horror, I put myself in the characters' shoes. I think to myself, "How would I get out of this situation?" and most of the time, it's always something really tame. Like, "Oh, I simply wouldn't visit the haunted house." etc But those damn sticky balls is fucking horrifying because THERES NO ESCAPING THEM BALLS.

[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

@@SmoothyCriminal true. There’s no escaping them balls 😂😂😂 I’m sorry I couldn’t resist

[@OG_Wilikers]

Fun fact: The reason Hellen looks down at the plane when it is sinking is not just to look at it, in the original script, snog, the owner of the jet, was on the plane. When the plane exploded Hellen couldn’t save snog, so when she looks down at the mangled fuselage she is looking in terror that her friend just died. The more you know 🌠

[@kianrodriguez4455]

Yeah, it was in the special features as a deleted scene. I guess they eliminated it because it would've been too dark, considering we were shown basically genocide a few scenes before that

[@Pilkkukatti]

This!! I’m always thinking about this during that scene

[@GamingintheAM0801]

@@kianrodriguez4455 What's funny is they didn't change the scene for being "too dark." They changed it because of pacing issues. It required too much sudden exposition and backstory about Snog when we were already halfway into the movie, only to have him die minutes later. Brad Bird really wanted to show how being a superhero can always result in unexpected casualties, but unfortunately there just wasn't a good way to make the audience care about Snog enough in the short time he would have been in the movie.

[@aejones233]

i just came from that video lmfao

[@OG_Wilikers]

@@aejones233 I didn’t even watch that video lol

[@chrissosa3723]

Another thing to keep in mind that makes the film even scarier, Mr Incredible was able to get out the hold the robot had on him after it cracked his back which albeit comedic it's grim in its own way, the robot knew to perform that move meaning there had to be at least one superhero who got ripped in half, not to mention the stuff he avoided during the fight were gadgets that had to have worked on other superheroes

[@vladvulcan]

the spinning blades are an awful way to die too

[@TONYZANDERZ]

spinning blades were added in the later models to deal with Stormicide & Gamma Jack who had vapor based & radiation wave abilities 😔 also would've and DID aid in the fight against Frozone who the omnidroid was going to target next

[@Amanda-zn7ox]

I believe in the original/US version, the red lines have white text over them saying "TERMINATED", giving it an even more uneasy feeling once you learn what "terminated" means.

[@hellosuir]

I'm pretty sure you're right, but my memory might be wrong

[@williammerkel1410]

That was in the original, why on earth was it removed?

[@jedimeyer1298]

Yes, the original definitely had that. There was absolutely no need to change it. I freaking hate Disney.

[@deadboltzz5199]

Yeah I got the original DVD

[@williammerkel1410]

@@jedimeyer1298 it might have been changed for the international release, our DVD copy still has terminated.

[@tmntlorefan7518]

A detail I love is how, the photos of each superhero becomes better quality as the kill list goes on, meaning this has been going on for a few years as cameras and photos have been becoming more used and well known, this hole plan to kill these heroes has gone on for quite a while.

[@Leefromtwd]

Damn I never realized that

[@simpleviewer1334]

Yeah, it went from newspapers, to a blury bit, then actually good photos

[@mw9688]

It also goes to suggest that he had limited interaction with the initial supers… so he had to orchestrate sneak attacks or something. Eventually, he was able to grow wealth and formulate a better plan and the superheroes came to him and likely even posed for the pictures like he would for an employee identification…. Because they were desperate to feel needed.

[@katietaylor8314]

When Bob is told his family is dead and you actually see the big tough superhero hanging in the dark and sobbing - for me, that's when you really know Pixar has made something truly special. And, more to the point, *honest*. That moment really haunted me as a kid.

[@sapphicvenom3390]

It makes sense that Evelyn and Winston Deavor's father couldn't contact Gazerbeam. It wasn't only because the supers were made illegal, it was probably because the hero was trapped or dead in that cave already.

[@x8makes.1teamx]

holy shit ive NEVER thought about that- you're so right

[@samuellopez479]

I disagree. The Deavor’s father was shot while the law was being enforced. Syndrome, I believe, began his experiments well after that, as he was like 12 in the Glory Days of supers. They definitely had time to adjust, leave their super lives behind, or weigh down the government with constant relocations because of their undying desire to be supers. Dicker, Bob and Helen’s government confidant, states he could relocate them when Bob messes up and busts up his boss in anger. Bob declines, wanting to just stay and stop making his family move. I think by that point, the supers were getting on the government’s nerves. This is where a theory comes in, that Syndrome was hired by the government to get rid of these meddlesome supers to keep their money.

[@Koopalingfan]

@@samuellopez479It was also when superheroes were just made illegal so it was probably around one week to one month.

[@ThomasTheThermonuclearBomb]

I thought this was said in the movie ngl

[@NoriMori1992]

I don't think so. Gazerbeam only went missing recently in the first movie's "present day". The Deavor siblings' father died nearly two decades ago, closer to when Bob and Helen got married.

[@jjthegamer1016]

Another good part was when Mr. Incredible and Frozone where talking about Gazerbeam, Mr. Incredible said, "When the last time you saw him?" Frozone said, "I don't see anybody from the old day, except you." Which was some good foreshadowing that makes sense when you re-watch the movie.

[@mrigtp0529]

thats such a cold, chilling line

[@sophiefrankis9476]

I've never realised that Frozon was the original target and how close he was to being killed.

[@theflickchick9850]

Yeah, I didn' t put that together until I was an ADULT.

[@masterchiefofhalo4525]

Neither did I. Nor did it ever hit me that all these people were dead. Or rather that Mr. Incredible was friends or knew a majority of them.

[@balanc-joy9187]

Also, what's the chances that if they _had_ gotten Frozone, Bob would've either been found by them, or done some digging and been discovered by them, and then lured to the island _using the fact that Frozone went "missing" on the island as part of the cover story_ Notably, multiple heroes, in particular ones that are _consecutively terminated_ were shown in the some DVD extras to have been _in teams together_ and they each were apparently lured to the island, _one member after the other..._

[@edge_58342]

Same I didn't realize that until I was 16 and my sister told me

[@cherilynsarts8845]

Same!

[@minigamer1967]

9:58 I like this, because it reminds me of a quote. "a single death is a tragedy, a million deaths are a statistic" Helps to solidify Syndrome's nature

[@MrRAGE-md5rj]

Joseph Stalin

[@AdderTude]

@@MrRAGE-md5rj Who was practically referring to himself in that quote as the "one man."

[@toxicedge8308]

​@@MrRAGE-md5rj Kind of tired of this quote being attributed to him. There isn't a single piece of evidence proving that Stalin said this, or that anyone real said this for that matter. The actual origin of this phrase is from a satiric work of fiction written by some German guy in 1932. And in that work the extreme number is 'hundreds of thousands', not a million

[@AFeralTrout420]

True

[@minigamer1967]

@@toxicedge8308 I get that your mad man (kind in your name huh Toxic?) but the point still comes across. And while I understand your annoyance at this bit of incorrect information in time things end up taking on existences of their own outside of their original intent.

[@how_tragic]

The best version of this scene is the original with ‘TERMINATED’ instead of the red line. So much more chilling.

[@quirkypurple3]

so much better with the “terminated” banner. i was watching different videos of the scene and was wondering why it didn’t have it because i found that one of the most memorable visuals of the scene

[@AloneSitoYTTM]

I think it was eliminated for the rest of the languages but English (aka the original)

[@ender5892]

​@@AloneSitoYTTMmakes sense. No need for translation with the red line.

[@sicksocksocksick]

ah no wonder the lines looked weird to me. i’ve watched the original more 30 times so i couldn’t put my finger on what looked so different about that scene!

[@mr.x991]

​@@ender5892it lessens the imoact though

[@nicktroisi6347]

It’s a very sad scene because these are all of Bob’s friends and allies that were horribly slaughtered and he blames himself because he rejected Buddy which led him down a dark path to becoming Syndrome.. He thinks it’s all his fault but it isn’t. This film has a hidden message about how your actions no matter how small have bigger consequences. Edit: I’m not saying it was all Bob’s fault like he didn’t know Buddy was that unstable

[@RobertNight1]

I remember watching this scene in theaters when I was 11 and my mouth dropped when the names kept appearing. When Syndrome said earlier "I went through quite a few supers to make it worthy to fight you" I think I 1st assumed he let them go and didn't kill them (don't know why lol). Powerful moment in the movie

[@ReptarKingOfMeat]

I think it's more that later on you get the faces attached to them so instead of it just being just a line it became "these people fucking died."

[@silverfire1248]

You don’t realize how dark this movie really is until you’re an adult. You get that Syndrome is a bad guy, but don’t realize that he’s committing actual genocide until you’re older. You don’t get how dark everything truly is.

[@inkheart151]

Well, he started as an over obsessed stalker fan. I guess that was the next logical step. Where were his parents by the way?!

[@bighand1530]

@@inkheart151 Mr.Incredible brings up his mom.

[@razkable]

I just love how they create all this lure that's barley in the movie lol...this feels like a sequel to a film we never got...you can make a prequel trilogy to get to the point where the first incredible begins......theres so much lure...and obviously the start of the film is in flashback format too sorta cause we get a timeskip due to the heroes being in hiding which can be its own movie with the suing and all that

[@noahryan1000]

@@razkable Lore*

[@Slippyjerry]

@@noahryan1000 😐

[@ZediYKW]

being a mom, although this scene is great too, the plane with the kids hits harder now, wow she hit the home goal with the voice acting, I didn't get anxious when I was a kid, but as a full adult, my stomach hurts watching it now.

[@aascottie]

100% that scene deserves this crown. Suddenly the villain wasn’t just interested in killing adults, but their children too. It was horrifying as a kid and it’s still horrifying as an adult.

[@emanuelevigo9864]

I may not have understood the one of Chronos Unveiled, but I did understand the Plane scene. It didn't take long to realize Syndrome wanted to kill them out of realization they were connected to Mr.Incredible.

[@zipy4900]

@@aascottie no

[@Bobb11881]

Hey, you know the cape death montage? The one who died in a jet turbine was a teenager.

[@LloydTheZephyrian]

@@Bobb11881 Apparently, the death of Stratogale (the one you mentioned) was not connected to Syndrome at all. Iirc, it was like 20 years before the events of the film outside of the Glory Days.

[@LilStoner771]

My favorite line is, by far, Syndrome's reveal with, "I am your biggest fan." It's delivered so perfectly to be incredibly _sinister_ and what makes it brilliant is the realization that the enthusiastic, eager to help kid from the beginning is now a terrifying murderer

[@joyride2045]

when you mentioned frozone being the one that was being stalked at first it made me wonder if Syndrome and Mirage were responsible for the apartment building fire that Mr. Incredible and Frozone were trying to save people from to see how effective Frozone’s powers were in extreme heat

[@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511]

Guau buena teoria

[@NoriMori1992]

Oooh, daaamn.

[@therookie5714]

That’s definitely what happened good catch

[@Doctorgeo7]

I always loved how the scene was a double reveal. ElastiGirl learns that she's been lied to for months by her husband, while Mr. Incredible learns just how far Syndrome went in his pursuit of surpassing him.

[@Vannabee13]

I just realized, this scene could be considered a direct foil to Edna's "no capes!" montage. Both list off a bunch of supers reaching their untimely demise but one is played for laughs and the other is played for cold hard drama.

[@calydlee]

It also stands in contrast because unlike the computer, Edna cares. She’s upset and yelling at Bob because she wants to protect him from a stupid decision and justify why she doesn’t do them anymore- After, presumably, being the one who included some of those capes. After feeling guilty for having lost some of those heroes.

[@elduquecaradura1468]

​@@calydleealso remember how Bob reacted to Edna when she ennumerated those who died, he even joked with the death of the first one, but in Syndrome's computer? There were no jokes

[@rotoface5469]

I love how arcuate the 50s styles are in this films, you don't really notice it when you are young I also like to imagine the fight between these supers , especially with gazerbeam dying in a cold damp cave

[@SuperMisteryMan01]

It even makes the film timeless in a way by being captured in this recognizable time yet look relatively modern

[@theextremeanimator4721]

Gazerbeam's fight WAS supposed to be the intro for the sequence.

[@crumblemuffin1257]

That moment when you realize that Dash,a kid,has a kill count. Gg Pixar

[@frenchfriesfan2005]

Skinner was kidnapped by a bunch of rats

[@celeryjelly1231]

CUB FROM HAPPY TREE FRIENDS

[@roxassora2706]

@@celeryjelly1231 The eclipse triplets from Bloody Birthday

[@peterlee840]

@@roxassora2706 Lucius from Lucius.

[@kirknay]

Those are more maneuver kills though. The bad guys got themselves killed by tring to chase down a kid with too much speed behind him.

[@funnyhappystudios]

What makes the supers’ deaths even more tragic is the bonus features on the DVD. You get to access the supers’ files and hear their audio recordings. Knowing who they are, and what their secret identities are. AND THEY SOUND AND FEEL LIKE REAL PEOPLE. Then you add up the sad reality that they came to the island because they all missed doing superhero work. Just like Bob.

[@TONYZANDERZ]

.......another sad fact.... the island is likely a commandeered Super Base 😔 in one of the files it mentions that one of the teams, I want to say The Phantasmics, operated out of a base in the middle of the ocean 🙃 the conference room/super computer, the base being super high tech with multiple means to get across the island quickly, to the area where Dash runs on water where Macroburst and Plasmabolt would probably practice and train the entire island when you look at it with a fresh pair of eyes and when you listen to the files amd how the government would assist supers Syndrome TOTALLY murdered the team and stole their "super cool decked out island base" for himself to make his own evil layer that DOESNT AT ALL come across evil except that evil people occupy it

[@emilyjanet455]

So many iconic lines in thismovie, and this scene made a huge impression on me as a kid. But my favourite line has got to be mirage saying "next time you gamble, bet your own life"

[@eddietheaggie2010]

Yup. Mirage was justifiably furious with Syndrome gambling with her life because the only reason hers was even in danger in that moment was her quick action to save his (Mr. Incredible was about to grab him, and would have successfully done so had she not shoved Syndrome out of the way at the last second). Syndrome repaid her by immediately putting her life in an enraged Bob's hands immediately after he'd heard his whole family be wiped out by Syndrome.

[@michaelstrong5383]

One of the reasons why Incredibles is my favorite Pixar film (and one of my favorite movies in general too) is that despite being a comedy about a family of superheroes, it's not afraid to take itself seriously and raise the stakes. The "Kronos Unveiled" scene is the perfect example of that, and it manages to do it at a seamlessly way without making it a tonal whiplash.

[@osmanyousif7849]

Also, the way it plays out with no dialogue, and the way the music slowly rises up louder and louder, makes it even better.

[@shcdemolisher]

There also was a planned funeral scene for the supers who died in the sequel but couldnt be made. It only got storyboard and voice over by the director. Still was a good moment regardless, even if it didn’t make it.

[@dafilmqueen556]

Not to mention the opening scene which featured a guy attempting suicide, collateral damage, and well, we know the rest already..

[@shcdemolisher]

@@dafilmqueen556 Oh yeah for sure!

[@wikiuser92]

It's my favorite Pixar movie too.

[@wantsomecoffe]

Don’t forget syndrome literally murdered kids in the Jetplane scene. (So he tought). Even Mirage gets uncomfortable. Gives me skivers down my spine just thinking about it.

[@theflickchick9850]

And then tries to seduce her after it like nothing happened.

[@АндрейМущук-р5х]

Yeah. Syndrome Truly Is A Dark And Menacing, Yet An Awesome Villain Despite Being A Narcissistic Sociopath Who Slaughtered Several Superheroes, Almost Killed Bob's Family, Nearly Let His Own Right-Hand Woman Mirage Die When Mr. Incredible Thought Syndrome Killed His Family, Unleashed An Omnidroid On A City And Tried To Kidnap Jack-Jack After The Parrs And Frozone Thwarted His Plans (All Because Of His Former Favourite Superhero Mr. Incredible Rejecting Him, Which By The Way, Doesn't Justify Any Of This).

[@borisngante8964]

@@АндрейМущук-р5х literally 💀

[@TheSpacePlaceYT]

@@АндрейМущук-р5х I agree (but dang those caps make me unconfortable)

[@iantaggart3064]

I know, right? Even after Syndrome heard that children were aboard, he still would't cancel the missile.

[@inari3298]

Most people say that the canon scene is silly. But you have to understand that mister incredible can take quite a few hits. But you have to understand these Canons where made to imobilize all supers, it's actually a genius weapon made by a man who's been studying how to defeat the supers for years and actually did. And that's truly terrifying.

[@EmoChipmonkVOD]

Killing is easy. Capturing some one alive and still some what functional.... Now thats difficult.

[@BloodyBay]

I've never heard anyone call the cannon scene "silly". But I have heard them call it "horrifying" or "a nightmare" or "oh god, my claustrophobia would kill me." o_O

[@jocelyn3390]

I think it's also to not use real bullets that would splash blood everywhere, kids would be traumatized

[@EmoChipmonkVOD]

@@jocelyn3390 That would be a loss of serious information. If someone breaks in to your facility in the middle of no wehre you wanna know why. As for trauma.... Remember the guys hunting down the kids with guns and spinny blade hovercrafts?

[@thgritic102]

At the first shot, I do remember chuckling because I've never scene an inflatable "bullet" before, but the more Mr. Incredible was getting shot at, the more the whole scene looks like he is being cut down to stop from escaping PLUS suffocating when the ones around his head got big enough made me fear it. I would rather get shot by a machine gun than something that would prolong my death even more through suffocation if aimed better on the face/head.

[@walter4180]

Ya know I always forget that Bob was about to straight up kill Mirage because he thought his family was dead Dude was right on the edge of becoming a villain himself Also cannot stress how good the plane scene is, my god Paired with the directing, the framing, the soundtrack, the everything and you've got a masterpiece of a scene Such a powerful scene imo. Gets me every time.

[@captain_commenter8796]

As a kid, I never had a full grip on how dark Syndrome really was, from the day Mr. Incredible discarded him, he made it his mission to end supers. When I was young I only put together the facts that Syndrome was trying to make himself look like the best hero by defeating the “perfect” enemy robot. But now that I’m older, I see the horrors of his superhero genocide. He set up innocent supers to die one by one to make the ideal opponent for his act as well as eliminate the supers, some just wanting to matter again or get back in action after the superhero ban. It’s scary, really

[@991yugioh]

You played the censored version. The original had "Terminated" plastered over the defeated heros. This wording makes it more impact full as that the supers were not just beaten, but straight up murdered in the most horrifying ways you could even imagine. Even in their last moments barely holding on their will to live and fight or begging for their lives till the very end. That's what it means to have a powerful movie moment. And Disney censored it for kids.

[@dashleigh1plays]

I think it was removed because non English speaking audiences don't know what terminated means because in the cinematic release, they were words and not symbols.

[@Rhodieman]

To me, it's more that "terminated" is a clinical, emotionless term for it. Like Syndrome didn't even see them as people, just as test subjects.

[@LooseAsADEUCE]

THAT'S why the slashes looked "wrong"! I couldn’t figure it out and just left it alone but thanks for the confirmation.

[@sketchywolff6365]

I’m pretty sure I have the original version on dvd, I’ll have to watch it again though. That movie was so impactful.

[@dashleigh1plays]

@@beefusdoesstuff5194 actually, that's a good point

[@ComicalRealm]

Fun fact: Joaquin Phoenix was considered for the role of Buddy Pine/Syndrome. Bonus fact: Incredibles was the biggest selling DVD of 2005 with over 17 million copies sold.

[@-12Sided]

I think Jason Lee was perfect for it. He’s super underrated when he’s good.

[@sophiawilliams4810]

Honestly, I’m glad he didn’t make it. I don’t think he would fit by a long shot. Not that I don’t think he’s talented, but he just doesn’t fit.

[@Wired4Life2]

Also, I think voicing Kenai in _Brother Bear_ was a one-and-done for Joaquin Phoenix.

[@bighand1530]

I didn’t know that Jason Lee was not gonna voice Syndrome.

[@michaelstrong5383]

As much as I love Joaquin, I'm glad he didn't voice Syndrome. There's such a smugness in Jason's voice that fits the character perfectly.

[@thomanator1000]

Tbh I don't think the incredibles is a kids movie. Its more of an adult movie with dark themes, a realistic mid life crisis, a woman rightfully concerned her husband is cheating on her, and the sheer amount of death, that has kid entertaining sections, and happens to be animated. I liked it as a kid but *love* it as an adult.

[@bighand1530]

The Incredibles seems to be one of those movies you will like more as an adult than a kid. Along with adults liking it more than kids too.

[@breawycker]

Brad Bird wrote this and Ratatouille for adults first if I recall correctly

[@bighand1530]

@@breawycker I think you are right

[@princessadrigirl6774]

I 100% agree. Watching this with my toddler when we first got Disney+ really hit it home for me- this movie isn’t *really* for kids. We actually ended up switching to something else more age-friendly, I hadn’t seen The Incredibles for years so in my head it was just a kids superhero movie... nope 😅

[@owens.studios]

That's part of what makes Pixar so great. It's entertaining as a kid, but so much more as an adult. They really know how to connect with the audience

[@moistfungus3780]

Something I just realized that I really liked in the Incredible's is: despite Mr. Incredible having Super Strength, he still relies on stealth through the mission. I feel like todays movies would just have him bash through walls and make tons of noise and get "complete" the mission just to move on to another part of the story.

[@MrRJPE]

As an adult, it was the "I can't lose you again! I'm not strong enough." scene that got me.

[@BloodMarket]

Tbh i never realized how heartbreaking and horrifying that scene truly was. Not only did he find out all his mutuals and colleagues are fucking dead, but he finds out that he is trapped on a literal private island with someone who will stop at NOTHING to end him and who CAN do it. Plus he now has to think about his own mortality and true life threatening powerlessness which he probably didnt think about for *years* or if ever

[@dclark142002]

...really makes you understand what he means when he confesses that he isn't strong enough to Helen later in the film... He just went through an experience where he thought all his friends and his family are dead because of choices he made...and he knows he can't take that actually happening.

[@BlueShellshock]

What I love about the sticky cannons is those projectiles look like they're perfect for the role. It actually looks like something that could restrain someone who can lift a car. They're awkward, cumbersome, they land on his legs, joints, face, they can tolerate being squished, they stick like wet dough, and they get everywhere. This isn't a villain trying to use bullets against a bullet-proof super, this guy has tailor-made something that works much better.

[@theleaderoftheworld]

Just don't look up Kronos Unveiled

[@phantafan7965]

By having the DvD around I have watched this movie so many times as a little child, however it took quite a while till I truly comprehended the scale of this scene. When I finally knew that these people that were shown onscreen are all dead, it really left an impact on me. I think it might have been the first time in my life that I was truly shocked by a movie in a way that got me thinking on a deeper level afterwards. I didn't make the association that they were his friends or so back then, but it still was incredibly dark and left me with a very weird feeling.

[@emanuelevigo9864]

I fell this, I never actually understood they were Dead until the Second Film came out and I remembered what happened in the first and reconnected.

[@A_87mine]

Same, but I lost my DVD.

[@BitcrushedMozart]

The fact that Gazerbeam's remains were never buried or otherwise disposed of implies the other supers' bodies are just lying around the island somewhere.

[@alexscreations6041]

I think it's moreso he was never found. The scene implies that he died soon after using his laser vision to burn "Kronos" into the wall across from him, so he may have been severely injured and left to die. Granted, what happened to the bodies of the supers is a morbidly interesting thought. Maybe they just rotted into the ground and became fertilizer for plant life.

[@CatChaos369]

Fun fact a few of the supers who are revealed to have died (not the ones who wore capes) attended the wedding so it’s not just fellow supers but friends that’s so heartbreaking

[@breezyturbo8674]

You forgot the fact the omni droid brought Mr incredible to a volcano but guess what heat isn’t his weak ness it’s frozone weakness and we see that in the burning house scene. They changed targets but not the right location. So if they did take frozone he would have been powerless while in the volcano

[@brolytriplethreat]

Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of "training" the Omni-droid, though? He's not _just_ trying to kill supers, he's also building this thing up to be unstoppable so that he could pull off Project Kronos.

[@breezyturbo8674]

@@brolytriplethreat well he meant to kill them you have to break a few eggs to make a good omelette

[@buddyjunior8866]

@@brolytriplethreat he did that to get payback from mr.incredible so he went after his friend,so yeah he would kill supers, especially close to bob💯

[@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511]

​@@buddyjunior8866es porque mirage no estaba siguiendo a mr increible estaba buscando a frozono se puede ver porque ella dice que el gordo sigue con el

[@Mr.Needle-Hamster]

Syndrome was already one of my favorite Pixar villains but one line that submitted him as my number one favorite is what he says after (presumably) killing Bob's family "You'll get over it. I seem to recall you working alone?" Just....wow

[@АндрейМущук-р5х]

It's Actually: "Oh, You'll Get Over It. I Seem To Recall You Prefer To...Work Alone?".

[@Mr.Needle-Hamster]

@@АндрейМущук-р5х Oh that's how it went

[@AdderTude]

@@АндрейМущук-р5х Funny thing is that you realize Buddy never grew up. He always had an idealized version of Supers and because of it, he never understood the value of human lives. Therefore, when he held a grudge for Mr. Incredible over fifteen years, he always viewed people as expendable because he never grew out of his idealism for Supers. All so he can play hero with his gadgets when the time came. Bob kept calling him out on it: Buddy would do literally anything to fulfill his childhood power fantasy.

[@defaulted9485]

@@AdderTude Coming from a country whose Pixar films are either cut for advertisements or censorship, there are TOO MANY subtlety on this film that lost on us. Thanks for pointing it out.

[@AdderTude]

@@defaulted9485 Funny story, actually: I realized it while watching the above video and remembered what Bob said to Buddy. "You mean you killed off real heroes so that you could... _pretend_ to be one?!" "Oh, I'm real! Real enough to defeat _you!_ And I did it without your precious gifts, your oh-so-special powers. I'll give them heroics. I'll give them the most spectacular heroics anyone's ever seen!" You notice that Buddy didn't deny killing off Supers, almost as if their deaths didn't mean much to him. Mentally, Syndrome is still the same little fanboy kid from fifteen years ago.

[@NumPad]

This scene is dark, but the one that will forever stick with me is the one where Syndrome shoots down the plane Helen, Violet, and Dash are in as Helen desperately pleads for him to call off the missiles. Syndrome forces a father to listen to his family die. It doesn’t get more fucked up than that.

[@edwarddavis7858]

Another intense detail of this scene, the supers killed off weren't just people Bob knew, or worked with. They were at his wedding, front row. They were friends, almost family. He was watching a computer tell him all his friends were dead, and that's why he hasn't heard from them

[@jennifer7685]

Cant believe you didn’t mention the greatest line in the movie: “you keep trying to pick a fight, but I’m still just happy you’re alive!” Played lighthearted and joyful

[@Dave34614]

I already thought highly of Pixar’s movies, but with ALL of this detail put into this portion of The Incredibles… wow.

[@MovieFan1912]

That’s why they are on top of the animation world.

[@Dave34614]

Sorry, portions not portion. And I too am upset with the Pixar movies being pushed to Disney+.

[@bighand1530]

@@Dave34614 I hear ya

[@noahryan1000]

I feel like a prequel to this movie would be so awesome. There's so much lore and backstory about all the Supers who died that we never actually see. Maybe it could go through what life was like when they were all alive and see what happened as they were slowly forced into hiding and killed off, ultimately leading to Syndrome's rise to power...

[@Engineer_Who]

On the DVD, there are a bunch of audio interviews with most of the supers. I particularly enjoy Gamma Jack, the heartthrob hero, talking about occasionally being attracted to female supervillains. ("But sometimes there are these _dames,_ y'know? You're diggin' her, she's diggin' you diggin' her...") Phylange, the sonic voice hero, has laryngitis in his interview and is constantly drinking to soothe his throat.

[@kianrodriguez4455]

@@Engineer_Who omg yes, I have that DVD, I love the extra content it has. Makes me the movie even more enjoyable imo

[@WC3fanatic997]

That would make an absolutely fantastic series . . . I dont know if I want to trust the -Pixar- Disney of today to do it properly, though

[@kianrodriguez4455]

@@WC3fanatic997 gotta agree with you man, I don't trust Disney at all

[@iamnotthatguy7166]

too much effort for disney

[@SpagettiSpeltWrong]

Samuel L. Jackson's performance as Frozen will always be one of my favorite movies he's done. "Where is my super suit?" Will live in my heart forever.

[@maesaigo8034]

i think you mean frozone ?

[@SpagettiSpeltWrong]

@@maesaigo8034 yes sorry

[@capitanaless1o493]

WHAT??

[@forsagebone]

12:17 To add to this, when Bob was fighting the Omnidroid it led him to a lava lake. We may not have realized it back then, but since its target was supposed to be Frozone instead of Mr. Incredible, it makes sense why it went there in the first place, because the droid probably still had the programming to fight Frozone so *it went there to try to dehydrate him.* "It means it's hot! And I'm dehydrated, Bob!"

[@sunfloweroil1251]

oh my god i never realised that

[@mitchvechart7164]

2:17 that “AAAWWWAAUUUGHH!!!!” Sound-byte is one of my favorite stock sounds 😂😂😂😂

[@elizabethbradshaw4598]

So intense, the realization that Mr. Incredible not only was not the first super hero to be called, but that everything and everyone he knew was gone. At least some of those heroes if not all probably wanted the same thing he wanted, a chance to be super again, but they were all being used to make the robot stronger. One thing you can take from this is how easily an iconic (superhero) era can be destroyed, not by direct conflict, but by deception.

[@PedroLucas-mg5je]

The Jedi Order learned that the cruel and hard way during Order 66/Operation Knightfall!

[@bara6218]

The sticky ball scene absolutely terrified me as a child :')

[@Orion-ih5xl]

The sticky ball scene when he falls defeated and white hair walks up awoke something on me

[@JandCanO]

@@Orion-ih5xl sammemeee

[@indominuskillertyrant9470]

@@Orion-ih5xl same man this scene turn me on

[@alicefade]

God same, I’m 20 and it still terrifies me 😭

[@amirtheysaid]

@@Orion-ih5xl nahhh😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 glad I wasn't the only one lmao

[@monikorasort]

“Would you like to?” God, that line delivery sent chills down my spine as a kid. Peak dramatic perfection

[@samuelshock6292]

You mean this line? kzbin.info/www/bejne/eXLJk6prbd6EjJI

[@twig_a_liz]

I can only hear Robbie Rotten's voice saying that, unfortunately

[@beinggreenandunseen3171]

Have you ever heard of the sound of a rubber ball breaking a window?

[@matthewgabinete605]

rewatching this film years later now that I'm older, you get to realize how dark a lot of things here are. the man having a failed suicide attempt at the beginning, Syndrome luring superheroes unto his island just to make them his test monkeys, Gazerbeam's corpse in the cave, etc. love it when Pixar goes this dark. more please!!!

[@colegillgrass3373]

You gotta appreciate that after everything syndrome still respects and admires Bob. He went through dozens of super heros never satisfied, but as soon as he was able to defeat Mr Incredible, he was done convinced that no superhero would be able to beat it.

[@zareverso340]

You hit that spot 🤤

[@KatieRoseHere]

In the beginning, by the lava wall, everything is red, orange, and bright. Mr. Incredible is in control, even when he is struggling. He is powerful, symbolized by all the red around and on him. He is able to outwit and outrun his enemies with the stone head statue. He gets burned, but gets through. Red is often associated with power and passion. The next scenes, are dark, visually and in substance. The colors on his suit are obscured by shadows; the bright red hidden from view. The Television a sorrowful blue. Everything is surrounded in black, a color associated with death, only white lights flash, like a life flashing before one's eyes. Finally, a bright white stark light booms into scene. It's harsh and uninviting. At first we see a bright red super suit dominate the screen. He has some control left. Then, piece by piece, black takes over. Mr incredible falls. Black takes over, leaving Mr. Incredible with his enemy over him. The final thing he sees is Mirage's frame imposing in his remaining vision before blackness takes over. In other words, Pixar definitely understands color theory:)

[@carlflaherty2215]

Also, black and white are Syndrome's colors.

[@rpmstudios]

@@carlflaherty2215 True, and the color of the lady’s hair is white.

[@beastmaster8485]

Out of all the context here, this has got NOTHING to do with it💀 your stretching it my guy

[@gehcontent5618]

@@beastmaster8485 but its still better explanation than saying nothing, like YOU

[@Legitiscool]

@@beastmaster8485better than your explanation

[@frenchfriesfan2005]

Kronos Unveiled is the best song in the movie, period. Maybe only rivaled by Life's Incredible Again and the main theme

[@Zarola]

I really liked Lithe or Death, because at that point you are worried for Helen and the music is so smooth.

[@PureMagic101]

I lose it at 100 mile dash when the brass really kicks in. I could listen to that on a loop.

[@beterbomen]

Personally, I think the scene that follows on from this is better. Not the scene directly after this with Hellen and Edna, but the scene where we get back to Mr. Incredible after this one. The one where Hellen is on her way to the island, and Syndrome tries to shoot her down. The one where Syndrome has tied Bob up, and he thinks his family has been killed. When he threatens to crush Mirage, and Syndrome dares him to do. That scene shows so much about the personalities of each of the people involved. It shows Hellen as being able to fulfill her roles as a superhero as well as a mother. It shows where the line is for Bob, and it shows Syndrome's utter disregard for life. Maybe it's because I care more about story than anything else.

[@wumbosaurus9121]

Nah you're absolutely right, it's a brilliant scene with brilliant storytelling

[@ewormXD]

"There are children on board, I repeat, there are children on this plane" *"NO!!"*

[@jacobrobinson787]

couldn't agree more.

[@WC3fanatic997]

And after he thinks his family has been killed, you see this literal juggernaut flare up into a livid rage, fully intending to kill Syndrome without a second thought The sheer anger on Incredible and absolute terror on Mirage's face during that scene made me pause even as I was a dumb kid watching it. You know she very quickly realized her own mortality.

[@R.444-]

@@WC3fanatic997 “it’ll be easy. like breaking a toothpick” this line alone made me understand the theme of “the hero becomes the villain” and how such a transformation could occur more than anything else as a kid. and it makes mr. incredible’s choice to *not* let the complete destruction of everything he loves, his entire family, the ultimate tragedy, change him into someone who can justify killing his enemy, even killing someone who appears to be complicit in the murder of his wife and children, so incredibly impactful. and the way this is contrasted with syndrome’s disgust for his “weakness.” even when he’s already lost everything, he doesn’t give in to that darkness and allow it to push him past the point of no return. he can’t. and that is what truly makes him a hero. it’s not about the power, but what you choose to do with it. and that is what syndrome never understood

[@elizabeth3506]

the lines just crossing out supers, and moving on to show the next death in the lineup never fails to make me nervous. Syndrome didn’t care about who he killed. all he knew was that he hated them. to hun, those supers were not people. they were mere statistics. just a trial test until he made his perfect robot, the one who could kill the man who killed his dreams.

[@bradleyadams5252]

I heard that Stalin once said "One death is a tragedy. One million is a statistic."

[@blankets5782]

One thing that I love about the Incredibles is that it subverts many expectations in a clever way like: - What defines a hero/villain - How life presents characters in situations they thought they'd like to be in (Bob wanting a family and Helen not wanting to retire) - What it means to be a "normal" family - Shattering the idea of a "safe" society and the consequences of keeping the peace

[@-12Sided]

You should do the scene of Mannys backstory in the cave from Ice Age. It’s so underrated and doesn’t have any dialogue!

[@sophiawilliams4810]

Genuinely a heartbreaking scene, and probably the only good one of the movie.

[@-12Sided]

@@sophiawilliams4810 Or the ENDING! The ending is amazing. Where the father of the baby shows manny respect as they both confidently look at each other with a smile and teary eyes. Communicating without words!! It's truly amazing.

[@bighand1530]

Tell me about it

[@jacobrobinson787]

Ice Age was a classic. Without a doubt, that scene and the one where the mother of the baby just vanishes is powerful.

[@twig_a_liz]

As a kid I didn't get that Manny was the dad in that scene, I had always thought he was the kid until I watched it recently

[@Delta_Aves]

Another scene that I think changed The Incredibles is the scene in the cave where Helen talks to Dash and Violet about the danger they're in, that it's not like those Saturday morning cartoon shows and they must not underestimate their powers when confronted. While prior scenes established how real the stakes were, this one really solidified, to me, how this is no longer a "kids" movie. I mean, the mom doesn't sugarcoat anything to her kids, but still believes in them enough to know how to handle themselves, which is a mature thing for a parent to do.

[@KeeperOfUntoldDreams]

I saw this movie on my 10th birthday and somehow, back then, it didn't occur to me just how dark this movie was.

[@blueraccoon1088]

I seen it when I was 6

[@emanuelevigo9864]

Ya, me neither.

[@charliefielding2297]

I also LOVE the security design. Initially you might feel confused by why a ruthless man would have a non-lethal security measure but its smart for multiple reasons. 1. he wants to interrogate them later. 2. he wouldn't know what can kill whoever has broken in. It's a weapons system that can work for almost any power set: stick you to the ground (flying), removes forward momentum (speed/strength), swell to cover whole body (invisibility/elasticity), cover the ground to create obstacles (speed/forcefield bubble), eventually depletes oxygen, obscures vision, etc. truly masterful!

[@raizer1946]

Yep Syndrome is damn smart about it. Not to mention, it could hinder a hero with super strength and render their abilities useless

[@AustinNGrayson]

I got so teary eyed last night when I rewatched the film. Just watching the main character, the audience’s avatar, realizing that all of his friends except for one have been murdered out of jealousy but also out of vengeance aimed at him for a mistake he made years prior out of his own arrogance. It’s heart wrenching. I wish more people would respect animation as much as they do live-action. Even in an animated film like this primarily made for kids we got one of the darkest scenes in a superhero film. And it still is to this day. The Incredibles is a phenomenal film.

[@christopherwebster6354]

13:24 Another clever usage of framing in this scene. When it's pulled back to show the whole screen, the clock says 8 hours 10 minutes 42 seconds. And when it's pulled in, all you see is 10 minutes 40 seconds, counting down. 8 hours can sound like a long time to wait, plenty of time to prepare; but when it relates to a massive threat and your miles upon miles away from where it's going to be done, it's practically nothing. It might as well be 10 minutes. It reflects how much time Mr. Incredible feels like he has.

[@thechad4485]

That scene where he tries to escape makes my heart race every time. I always find myself needing to catch my breath as if I were running with him. And the weapons are so ingenious as a whole, because it renders anyone absolutely helpless in a believable and anxiety inducing way. It’s a claustrophobic person’s nightmare. Scarier than any gun, laser, or net.

[@sauerkrautlanguage]

This scene is so good because it's something of an anti deus ex machina. In s deus ex machina the characters are put into a situation in which the odds are stacked against them to such an extent that only a fortuitous event can save them. But here it's the opposite: Bob is in an advantageous position after discoerving everything about Syndrome's plan, and quickly moves to stop it, only to have his cover blown and get captured because his own lies to his wife came back to bite him at the absolute worst time

[@senju31]

Love this comment

[@theelephantintheroom69]

That whole scene about stalking Frozone was so crazy I never knew that was a subplot. So much stuff was put into this film even though they'd know the kid audience wouldn't understand it or even their parents unless they saw it a few times over

[@katamekothriis1613]

What's super fucked up is if you rewatch the beginning and look at the wedding scene. A lot of the superheroes shown that were terminated were actually at his wedding. They weren't just regular friends, they were all very close, you can even see Gazerbeam at the very front row clapping alongside Rick Dicker, the agent that helped Bob and Helen relocate and hide. These people weren't just other superheroes, they were close friends, almost family.

[@CrowWife]

My first thought was the scene where he thinks they've killed his family and snaps, momentarily genuinely considering killing the girl who lured him here, his hateful, gravely tone after the sheer hopelessness has faded, the *hate* in his eyes where there was once a sort of smug calmness

[@SaturnsMysteriousEye]

Another subtle thing I'd like to point out is that the sticky ball cannons are simultaneously capable of taking down almost any super, and still not a physical threat to Syndrome should they be activated on him. Obviously he has a way to get them off, likely a counter chemical. Something that he could have on hand, but immune to the brute force method of trap breaking.

[@thebakeosaurusrex8361]

You guys want to know something else, after he saw the V9 overwhelm Mr Incredible he destroyed it and upgraded it to the V10 Even after knowing it was stronger then Mr Incredible, Syndrome upgraded it again for good measure

[@Anonie324]

Well... he *did* need a model big enough to realistically stomp through a whole city.

[@AdderTude]

@@Anonie324 Except he forgot one small detail that Mr. Incredible pointed out to Mirage with Omnidroid 08: it got too smart to follow orders.

[@sapphicvenom3390]

I rewatched the film recently, and Jesus-- I'm still moved by the intensity of the scene where Helen says that their plane was buddy-spiked and that there were children on board. Mr. Incredible and Mirage's reaction. And I never noticed before that we could actually hear Bob crying when Syndrome walks out of the room.

[@bensell982]

My favorite detail is earlier in the movie, Frozone says, "I don't see anyone from the old days Bob. Just you." At the time you think, oh, he just doesn't see hang out with old friends anymore. After this scene, you realize the real reason why.

[@matthewa.whiting719]

"Do you know where he is?" Not just physically, but emotionally. Does she know what emotional spot he is in? Has she been trying to understand his emotions up until now, or only her own feelings (her insecurities and fear).

[@kiryuthedragonwarrior2746]

My favorite part of the 2nd film is, how the Villains dad trys to call Gazor Beam and someone else but guess what they're already dead due to Syndrome from the 1st film Giving consequence actions from film to film

[@michaelstrong5383]

There was going to be a scene in Incredibles 2 where we see Gazer Beam's own funeral, but it ended up getting deleted.

[@cande182]

i thought he didn't anwser bc supers were illegal i never thought he was dead

[@emanuelevigo9864]

I.. I never realized until now that was the case. How cool!

[@arnoldgreen4278]

That doesn’t rly make sense. Those events were was when the villain was a child, and Incredibles 2 is set about a year after Incredibles 1. Gazerbeam was gone maybe 3 months before Incredibles 1 so… the villain aged 20 years in 1 year?

[@TheAchilles26]

He wasn't dead, but it was the day after the government forced the supers underground and out of operation

[@dongtrope]

I watched this movie religiously when I was younger. But damn, you really miss those little details as a kid. Great video man!

[@lottji]

16:17 This scene always freaked me out as a kid because of that final perspective shot where he just gets encased. Like how did he not suffocate to death