The Science and Psychology of the Chaos Theory

a short clip on chaos theory

[@trashetc]

It is summed up greatly by the lady who says " shit happens"

[@theblackopslegend1]

I told my teacher that i believed human actions were caused by there past, all actions are reactions. as in where the action that your doing right now is caused by some event in your past, so its like a chain (this is the EXTREMELY simple version of it, also i believe this in life as well). also im thinking that if this is true, there should be an original spark. he replied saying that i could be thinking of the chaos theory.

[@lucianocastillo694]

I think it’s alright to try to control what might be in the future, but know yourself, could you handle the failure that might come? What is it you’re trying to control? My reasoning is due to the fact that every skill that I have right now has been learned because I saw something I would like to control. Those things inflicted chaos in my mind until I decided to go through the process of learning how to control these things: Gym, Art, Business, Relationships. Also when I say control, I’m referring to things that I need to respond to, or things I would like to create, this is utilizing chaos, “being present”, flowing/responding to what happens in an effortless manner because I learned the skill/how to control something that before would give me high stress.

[@Raina430]

Psychologists use the term “ being present” or “ being with what is” as if we all know what that means. In fact, it is, to me, a technical term, and a skill, which for some of us has to be carefully taught and learned. If you have lived your whole life trying to figure things out in your mind, not being able to learn from experience due to lack of information in your upbringing ( catholic), or trauma, then it is a huge feat to learn this. 2

[@lucianocastillo694]

I think learning how to control the chaos will take you out of “being present” as you will face failure, but only for a brief time until you’ve honed the skill on the subject you’re trying to control. “Being present” is dependent on how you react to the moment that chaos occurs. If you know how to respond or how you’d like to respond, you won’t have anything else in your mind but the response itself, once the skill is learned. That’s being present, when you see the chaos, not thinking about it’s unpredictability, having nothing else in your mind but a structured/ordered response to chaos. This is be applied to sports, gaming, driving, conversing, art and literally everything in life.

[@lordattislie7931]

This is extremely enlightening. I never thought that Chaos Theory and psychology would intertwine!

[@Jay_Flippen]

The quote at 6:41 I find particularly interesting. I don't believe an attack is a direct result of being generally cautious, but likely is a resulting social mechanism from the situational, psychological display of the person. Puffing out your chest doesn't directly deter predators on the street, but it does alter the possible attackers' perception of you to the point where they are less likely to approach you. "This is why I'm hot; I'm hot cause I'm fly, you ain't cause you not" -MIMS

[@Dust2653]

I can see both sides, I don't think being scared of something automatically makes you extra vulnerable to it, but if some thugs are walking by not necessarily looking for trouble and they spot someone who is clearly scared they are more likely to be aggressive towards that person. The wolves pick out the weak type of thing.

[@Jay_Flippen]

Yea, you idiot... You responded to this point a little better after taking in some information on pertinent studies from Kevin Dutton's famous book.

[@huannguyen11]

I'm not moved by the legend that a butterfly's flap can create a typhoon, it's like an Australian guy fart and then a hurricane is generated in the USA

[@amv062184]

with the correct algorithm, and computation speed, accurate, long term, pinpoint predictions can be made possible.... the longer time has elapsed during the calculations, the less accurate the prediction will be. the element which causes the decrease of accuracy, is simply time itself.

[@TwelfthRoot2]

Also, a dampening effect can increase the time duration window (even make it infinite if dampening in large enough). But if you have a small probability inherent in a system then you'll never be able to predict it long-term (e.g. biological systems)

[@amv062184]

TwelfthRoot2 what exactly is dampening?

[@TwelfthRoot2]

anthony vadala it's what causes a system to tend towards stability (if it exists in the system). In the case of butterflies and air, the dampening is the viscosity of the air. In the case of waves in water, the dampening is surface tension (it causes the energy of the wave to decrease with time by transferring energy to heat the molecules). So for a butterfly's flapping to interact with fluid motion a far distance away (say 100 miles), its effect on the fluid must overcome the ability of the fluid to dampen the butterfly's effects. Technically you could say that the system is still chaotic (is extremely sensitive to initial conditions) even with dampening, but it's less chaotic because the butterfly effect has been weakened by damping.

[@lucianocastillo694]

@@TwelfthRoot2 Wouldn’t dampening change the authenticity of the original trajectory of the chaos?

[@XOLID-VIXION]

CHAOS LIKE ORDER ARE BEAUTIFUL. .... THEIR THEORY IS CHILDS PLAY...

[@Raina430]

I’m not a fan of Buddhism or any ism, but mindfulness techniques, correctly taught, is a system for getting back into one’s sense scape, and being able to feel it in a methodical way, as sensations. This will eventually ground one in the body, and allow one to be “ present” in the way that animals are.

[@tuzisyy]

did he say: anxiety came from the strong intention of controlling un controllable?

[@FarrahSharpe]

Great and informative short doc. Many thanks for posting. :)

[@JensPaldam]

The end quote starting from 7:45, is something I hear a lot: Live in the moment, and don't try to change what is beyond our control and so on. There are two ends to every truth, and in the other end of this truth, is the opposite argument, which I think is a lot more relevant to our current situation, it goes: Take control over the chaos that we have created and act now before we discover what the concept of chaos really means...

[@JuanyJuanes]

Finally an erotic, concrete explanation of chaos theory

[@celestemekent]

The question I must ask is there are real order anywhere, or is what appears to be under control merely temporary.

[@Phoenix2000fly]

Chaos theory is confusion through remoteness to reach a goal. This equation would be (c=r=g). This is an algebraic equation for chaos theory. In psychology people who are "wired" are affected by chaos theory. To eliminate chaos theory an evaluation of (c=r=g) would have to be done.

[@theblackopslegend1]

Yes, that is true, theoretically altering the past would change the future,yet we don't have the info to prove that its false right now, so for now most people are assuming that it's true. As for controlling chaos, there was a famous quote bye Einstein that i believe in: "god doesn't play dice". i don't believe in a god but i still get the meaning. there is always a reason behind an action (reaction), nothing happens at "true random", and chaos has reasons too. We just need to find the reason.

[@user-bi9wm2cw8b]

We are internally wired to be sensitive to what community thinks of us because it’s an evolutionary adaptation. To be thrown out of the tribe as a hunter gatherer is the equivalent of the death penalty since you’ll have to rely entirely on yourself for survival without receiving help. Conformity to the tribe keeps you accepted as a member and keeps you alive. In the individualist modern-day societies that we live in, that hard wiring isn’t necessarily beneficial for survival anymore as one could do just fine all alone

[@theblackopslegend1]

-I believe that even in quantum physics and such, we can find the possibilities and reasons for even the smallest things.

[@ZeKraZe]

actually, the universe is expanding equally in all directions, not just from one localized point

[@Raina430]

I am not explaining it well. the only person who was able to expain this to me, is a Buddhist teacher called Shinzen Young, his tapes and audios. Of course there are thousands of teachers of these techniques, but with his math and physics background, his explanation made logical sense to me. 0-1

[@amv062184]

i have the ability to utilize the chaos theory pretty well, with my mind

[@amv062184]

direct and pin point predictions are nearly impossible... there can only be a myriad of possibilities predicted to sustain any lvl of accuracy... cause and effect, physics, the domino effect; these are what make up the chaos theory

[@hmnanda]

simply existing in a particular time and place can also dramatically alter the course of history in the long run. hence why time travel would fuck up a lot of things.

[@SarahStarmer]

Every one should know about chaos.

[@KCNationDefense1]

infid3ll, this is the best beginner's intro to the subject that i've seen to date. Did you produce this video? If not, can you tell me where or who I can visit (a website, youtube channel, university, producer, etc) to see if they have additional content, etc.?

[@DarlingPhenylethylamine]

Bud, it's from the special features of the film The Butterfly Effect, but this is the whole documentary, 8 minutes 59 seconds, at least that's all that is on the DVD also. I was curious if it was an excerpt of a larger documentary, not sure, my guess is no. Just search this title and check out the IMDb page for it, there are details there that may be of use to you.

[@darkwhitedirewolf]

I love it when a professor says shit happens as an analysis.

[@milesdecker1]

Listen for whom ever happened to post this short documentary thank you so much I have a girlfriend that lives away from me she doesn't have a dvd player right now and we both recently watched the butterfly effect and I have 2 copies of the infinifilm dvd and I really super badly wanted her to see the extra maily this one the science and psychology of the chaos theory and the other one called the history and allure of time travel, now even though the first one this one is the most interesting and important most valid to aid in truly understanding the film I still found the other documentary interesting but that one I can't seem to find if you happen to read this or anyone else that knows how can you please please post the other documentary the history and allure of time travel I would greatly appreciate that as do I greatly appreciate you posting this thank you so so much I sure do hope it stays up because more people really should see this thank you

[@bizbite2]

I love all your speed reads Evan. Please add a few of ENTJ's I can never find them....

[@themermaidgirl247]

To make it simpler: one event creates a chain of unpredictable events. Say someone invents a chocolate bar. It is impossible to predict whether or not people will eat it, and if they like it. You van find out if they did like the chocolate bar, but you couldn't predict it before you find out. One more thing, how did I understand this and interpret it to make it simple?

[@paoandrecm]

4:12 "Shit happens".

[@davidwhite7981]

😬...😂😂😂

[@Raina430]

Great ideas, thank you so much. I made some responses below, which might or might not make sense to anyone else...

[@golds04]

Now who would you want to listen to over time-the physicist-or the therapist?The sad thing is which group has the nicer clothing?Shows that people would rather hear an easy to understand myth than science.Seems to me.

[@abdullahaslam9301]

Is there some sort of articles with these sort of arguments? Cant find some of these ideas of psychology in any books i have seen. Help please

[@nothingelsetodo4229]

One thing i learn from chaos theory is chaos is not an act its a reason

[@djazr]

I find it ironic that the lady's name is constance and they're talking about chaos

[@Jay_Flippen]

6:41 I can only agree with this statement to a certain extent. There could, for example, be a divergence in types of people's cautious responses (i.e. avoidance or confrontation of the problem, both psychologically and physically (although there may be 3 or more definable groups)). One of these groups of people could simply have cautious thoughts and mostly possess changes to their gate and other body movement. As proven in studies with actual psychopaths and real victims (defined in the book "The Wisdom of Psychopaths), there is a significant, definable reaction of psychopaths to victimized vs. non-victimized people and their differences in walking. On the other hand, another definable (although maybe smaller in size) group could be the people who actually confront the problem with reasonable, effective solutions. They go the gym and get buff, they buy a taser, they buy a pistol, they bring grenades and nuclear bombs with them everywhere, they take safer routes, etc.

[@amv062184]

the more raw data that is utilized with an algorithm, the larger the window can be afforded (time) before the accuracy starts to dwindle... say a super computer contains all the accumulated knowledge ever recorded by man, and it utilizes it to make predictions... the window would be very large but if it had all the data from every moment in time that has ever transpired, from every perspective lvl, that window would be massive, and it could calculate long term predictions on a massive scale, with pinpoint accuracy.

[@AnastasiaProzorova]

So, if "chaos and the fear of chaos actually invites more chaos", would it be logical to say that rape and the fear of rape actually "invites" more rape? Something does not make sense to me...

[@fadezen]

that's a lot of complex math and in a very unstable model with so many variables . would create a condition that move to each effect limit the amount of choices or variables. ( and please excuse my lack of terminology) philosophically isn't their a paradigm in each circumstance.

[@LynnColorado]

Enlightening. Thank you.

[@MarcorMark]

im so fucking baked right now...

[@Raina430]

To Be with what is….good idea, but for someone with little ego structure, where is one to ground, to orient to true north? Do you have a system for achieving that? Because I have not seen this addressed in psychology. It is always “ assumed” that one knows how to be with what is. But if you are traumatized, and getting out of your head and into your body you will encounter pain and chaos, and go back into your computer brain and try to figure out how to be safe.

[@Matier2064]

How do you spell the concept that John talks about at 7:55? It starts with a s or something. Thanks

[@Bantam486]

@Cranxa What is the name of the documentary, I´d be very interessted in. Thanks!

[@hmnanda]

well location in the universe has no real meaning as we only know our location relative to other objects in the universe. and most recent models of the universe suggest that there is no definitive "center of the universe." but yes, our trajectory relative to all other things would be changed significantly should there had been a slight change in initial conditions

[@ralfytm]

@Cranxa hi, can you please say the name of the documentary so i can watch it to, thanks :)

[@UseAsDirected100]

@singenera Yes, you are correct, there is very little educational work done about it, though scientists claim its impact has been as strong as that of quantum mechanics and relativity. I am writing my master's thesis on student [mis]conceptions of nonlinear systems [hope to one day research its education value].

[@DrMerle-gw4wj]

Is there no end of the claptrap on this subject?

[@RATPT0I]

@daikiryoku It would change everything, actually.

[@LeaLittleDanishGirl]

The x-files music is not really helping. 😂 Luckily they are very well articulated and peadagogic. Could have used a deeper dive into the theory WITHOUT the cold case anthem behind though... 😄

[@SHIBBYiPANDA]

@Cranxa what documentary?

[@theflorgeormix]

so why would someone say something negative about another...for their own good ??? possibly, in that its not what was said, but just the fact that your being gets attention

[@أحمدسعد-ق8ت]

كل ما يحدث في الكون مقدر بقدرة الله عز وجل ولا يحدث شيء إلا بأمره الفوضى التي نتحدث عنها في عقولنا فقط لأنها لا تدرك ولا تستوعب قدرة الله ما علينا العبودية لله الرضا والتسليم بالقدر والعلم بأن الله رحيم بعباده

[@Jay_Flippen]

4:25 Just like trying to control Jay Flippen.

[@billbb]

double pendulum looks like gymnist

[@thelegendarypaki]

But again, maybe she is being chaotic.

[@AnastasiaProzorova]

So if human actions are, as you say, reactions to the past, would not it be possible to control the future outcomes, if someone were to find a way to alter the past? I think this theory is wrong as it allows for the possibility of control over the chaos... I think that by saying that actions are reactions to the past you are just trying to rationalize (=control) what you can't control, the chaos...

[@huannguyen11]

Then can i ask you a question, where is the origin of your "reactions"? There has to be a fundamental beginnings for everything, or the head of the chain.

[@johnbatchler8551]

Try wall St computer if u want to learn this topic

[@persianprinceG]

where can i watch the documentry

[@Jay_Flippen]

6:41 I just need to figure out how to fear extremely attractive females. Opponent defeated.

[@Jay_Flippen]

But for reals though... There have been some studies on psychopaths and their ability to more accurately determine who would be a good target just by judging the way with which the possible victim walks. If you don't believe me on this, then I recommend you do a little more digging into trying to confirm what your perceive to be my wrongness.

[@Jay_Flippen]

or just watch a video of some people of the Masai tribe stealing meat from a lion... or try it yourself.

[@Jay_Flippen]

Body language and psychological enmeshment... just like in the music video for the song "Angel" by Massive Attack . It is the difference between terrorism and torture/physical abuse/death, and it is only kind of like the difference between hard power and soft power... in my opinion. Let's hear it for the power of capital punishment, wooooo!!!! Dropping bombs on yo' azz.

[@dantheman1337]

I like your angle on this. Chaos-order theory as i prefer to think about it is a great framework needed to explain/ predict any system. I haven't thought about it however when applied to attracting a mate.

[@rh7189]

check out the blonde dolly bird ...only on the program on account of her looks

[@Jay_Flippen]

6:41 This explains to me why I have so many sexual relations with lots of different extremely attractive females.

[@dantheman1337]

Lol i think you found an exception there

[@billbb]

the big bang

[@frontview1]

Only money can change things, money. Money is king, there talking about cash. Money talks, changes things to the way you like them to be. CAsh Money. Capitalism rules us through Debt. Anyways I beat this one to death, a really Sad Death...

[@jarvishughes]

Fallen Child Zone.

[@billbb]

i believe

[@user-gp6od8yp4q]

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[@RadagonTheRed]

@DaSpaceJammer Not really.

[@LtColFrankSlade_]

What is the go with the quasi scary movie. Good topic but totally lame sensationalism. Its about understanding not mystery. Match music to topic.

[@TheGeneralBape]

@raina430 I understand what your saying 100%

[@LtColFrankSlade_]

Sorry Movie # MUSIC

[@garbageday99]

so essentially theyre saying you must live YOLO

[@EvanSharboneau]

7:43-8:19

[@nuclearpower123]

KAOZ!

[@blizzard4775]

ordo ab chao. nothing is unpredictable

[@ZiplineShazam]

Now.

[@thelegendarypaki]

Yes. She actually said the S word.

[@kingsizedmidget]

"shit happens"

[@iggystompbarnyard]

everything intertwines bro

[@rockersamurai]

buddhism anyone?

[@DaSpaceJammer]

soooooooooo confusing

[@kingsizedmidget]

lol

[@franciscoac84]

son tan yanquis, yanquis.

[@djchino24]

proof that god is not real

[@XOLID-VIXION]

CHAOS LIKE ORDER ARE BEAUTIFUL. .... THEIR THEORY IS CHILDS PLAY...

[@JuanyJuanes]

?

[@XOLID-VIXION]

JuanyJuanes EVERYTHING HAS ORDER EVEN CHAOS.. EVEN HARMONY LIVES IN CHAOS. NOTICE THE ORDER THE PENGULIM WAS MOVING.