The Secret Life of Chaos with Jim Al-Khalili 4k

[@JavierLizarraga-j5k]

I am completely enamored by Jim Al-Khalili and how he kindly teaches us in a way that simply makes sense and leaves us wanting to learn more. Thank you Mr. Al-Khalili for being alive and sharing your knowledge with us. Furthermore, he seems like such an amazing human being, and it shows in how he speaks to us.

[@ZeidanRacha]

Absolutely phenomenal Mr. Khalili, thank you so much for educating us.

[@oksg69]

What a revelation..Jim is simply the best at breaking down the most complicated things to simple terms..this one is just mind-blowing..wow..the ideas are simply staggering

[@Smoke-Screen.]

I have learned more from this amazing British theoretical physicist Jim Al-Khalili than I could have ever learned elsewhere. This is by FAR my favorite episode, in fact I'm seriously going to have to DL this and pick it apart to learn more. Thank You, double thumbs up if I could. Also would this, in theory much like a fractal mean that if we looked out far enough we would find other intelligent life? POOF my mind get's blown again lol.

[@Vtwin_Superbikes]

The B in Benoit B. Mandelbrot stands for Benoit B. Mandelbrot.

[@johnnysvensson]

Brilliant recursion

[@TheDavidlloydjones]

@@johnnysvensson The S in Harry S Truman doesn't have a period after it, because that's his middle name: S. 'Cept sometimes you can't help putting it at the end of a sentence.

[@yoshimitsu8643]

Benoit Benoit B Mandelbrot Mandelbrot

[@brockheuser2213]

The W in WOW happens twice in this 3 letter Word....its organized chaos...think about it's meaningless🤔

[@TheEarlVix]

Of course

[@dcmurray6466]

He isn't the only genius that they have killed because he was different. Many others came before him and have followed him, but because of his genius, he is (rightly) remembered. Such a shame, such a loss.

[@dandared6395]

Jim al khalili & brian cox are so good at explaining the world to us, so watchable

[@Elotinib]

Hi, do you know any other scicommunicator professors at this level?

[@Elotinib]

Hi, do you know any other scicommunicator professors at this level?

[@HawthorneHillNaturePreserve]

I don’t think those simple building blocks are so simple. Maybe the universe and its building blocks are living and breathing entities that we dismiss as inanimate matter. The symbiotic relationships between matter, and living cells is a fundamental component of our very existence.

[@Istandby666]

We live within another body.

[@kozko-xe1xl]

@@Istandby666 In god's ass.

[@Kubotahonda5]

This guy is superrrrrrrrrrrrrr genius , all of his work is absolutely brilliant

[@Horvat04]

Refuted by a seed of a tree

[@oliivioljy9700]

Has it occurred to you that when talking about the spirit world, god can be very advanced computer software that controls the course of life in the world. This would explain the fact that nature is not able to build a functioning system for life and its maintenance, but that requires a conscious logic and a conscious variable that manages a lot of information. how else can you explain the basis of life, the thinking complex of human consciousness and the need for mathematics that doesn't really exist.

[@HyenaEmpyema]

​@@oliivioljy9700God is an invention like a wheelchair to help us cope with our lack of understanding

[@kaoskronostyche9939]

@@oliivioljy9700 This thinking - your thinking - needs to be addressed however it is a certainty that,. when a person phrases his challenge with " how else can you explain the ____ (choose phenomena)," they are certain. That is, if you grew up when there were no computers or software, you would be "certain" about some other "all-explaining" ideology and belief system. Cheers!

[@WILLIAMMALO-kv5gz]

Thanks for one video that I think everyone who wants to understand the universe, infinity and reality should watch at least twice.

[@NancyDurrani]

One thought which came to mind is the complexity of people driving in a highway , thousand of cars moving to a pattern, a complexity like everyone is driving in a rhythm. Creating a complexity from single individuals .

[@ZeidanRacha]

I’ve looked in my rearview mirror many times while driving and had a similar thought as you, how the system has evolved

[@thevikingwarrior]

If we are the collective, I want to be leader.

[@kelleyrc5671]

I recently finished James Gleick’s book called Chaos and it was fantastic. He talked about how analog computers cannot sufficiently program chaos because it is 0 and 1 when reality is much more nuanced so the computer simulation of evolution shown here is only getting part of the story. The next generation of quantum computers that allow for many unpredictable solutions will possibly give science a better understanding. I am fascinated by the Mandelbrot sets and how they were a giant leap in our understanding of reality

[@nuranigeria2080]

My respect for the Iraqis professor and enjoy watching from Nigeria 🇳🇬🥂

[@anthonybinder9539]

As Al-Khalili himself,identify as British,that comment seem a bit odd...

[@timothydobson4657]

I met Mandelbrot alone with my physics prof. in 1985 as a guest speaker. Very tall fellow and helpful incites on graphics. Ahead of his time.

[@rickeyrick1]

You've incited me by not using "insights".

[@Blalack77]

I think some of the underlying messages or lessons that all of these videos share is: never say never, never claim something is impossible - at least not without looking deeper - and don't be dismissive of new ideas that break the old paradigm/convention. I guess more generally, keep an open mind. It's crazy how often throughout history, some of the most groundbreaking and revolutionary ideas and the scientists behind them were dismissed - and how a lot of those brilliant minds didn't live long enough to see their vindication. That's what gets me with a lot of these stories. It's one thing if they're scoffed at but have the chance to prove themselves and their theories but it's much more sad and unfortunate when they either completely leave science behind and/or die destitute and having their ideas confirmed too late. Like Nikola Tesla - among plenty of others - is a pretty good example of someone who's only fault was being too far ahead of their time. One of the most brilliant human beings to ever live dies penniless while living in a hotel and being "married to a pigeon" half because he was ahead of his time and half because he wasn't interested in the business side or in marketing his ideas.

[@marvinmauldin4361]

Meteorologists have a way of upending physics outside their own domain. Alfred Wegener irritated geophysicists with the idea of continental drift (plate tectonics), then Edward Loren irritates everyone with chaos. A clockwork universe has become A Clockwork Orange.

[@RichardMorrisonBaritone]

Wonderful documentary, so pleased to see it here in good quality.

[@DrPatriciaWorby]

excellent summary of chaos theory and I love that he covered the biological aspects which are really my passion. I read James Gleick's book Chaos which was heavy going in places. This distilled the ideas down in a form everyone can digest. So sad that Turing lost his life so tragically after he'd just begun to really question these natural processes. But wonderful that other scientists were able to pick it up and we are forever grateful to him, Mandelbrot, etc for their uniquely questioning minds.

[@arnonsha1]

36:24 the question is whether the observed patterns could be explained or not in principle. That they act in a different way than what we expect does not make them essentially unpredictable, only not yet understood, maybe never completely understood due to such an enormous level of complexity, but this does not make reality essentially chaotic, only to our limited minds.

[@Manisworld1]

Peace, Science did not push past religion to tackle a problem but has proved something that religion has already known or said

[@williamwilson6499]

Science has given us a reason and the means to relegate religion to the dust heap of history. Especially monotheistic religion. The most evil type.

[@herbertsiegl7762]

Those videos are a great example of evolution....cause only the ones with quieter or no music at all will prevail.

[@DavidArnold-l3t]

Superb Jim's documentaries are always incredible

[@giuseppeLizzi-rj3er]

I still remember learning about these elements at primary school it’s still in my mind

[@isatousarr7044]

‘The Secret Life of Chaos’ reveals the intricate patterns and underlying order in what seems to be randomness, showcasing how chaos theory can explain the complex behavior of natural systems. From the formation of galaxies to weather patterns and biological processes, chaos theory provides a new lens through which to view the universe’s complexity. How might the principles of chaos theory deepen our understanding of other complex systems, such as the behavior of black holes or the dynamics of life on other planets? Can these insights help us make sense of seemingly unpredictable phenomena and discover hidden patterns in the chaos of the universe?

[@maksphoto78]

Love this documentary, thanks for the 4k! The Mandelbrot Set is beautiful and exquisit.

[@roeurecos]

Absolutely fascinating!

[@mimameta]

Beautiful documentary

[@arnonsha1]

48:07 the question is why - the universe might still be Newtonian, only we need to go deeper to understand what is responsible for the differences, probably something relating to quantum mechanics.

[@arnonsha1]

34:23 the question is whether unpredictability is a physical quality of the universe or a state of someone's understanding or lack of understanding. It seems to me that predictability has to be a state of knowledge rather than a quality of reality. This can be seen from the very concept of predictability - i.e. Someone's ability to predict.

[@Living1980s]

That dude is making The Matrix for real 🔥🔥🔥

[@shinobiboys5645]

Why do I have the feeling I watched this years ago and forgot about it , feels nostalgic 😅

[@CaseyDarwin]

You probably did. Was made in 2010.

[@harshitallahabaduniversity]

​@@CaseyDarwin how know you video made in 2010 new video how to found Dr Jim al

[@mychul23]

The date is on the last page of the end credits...MMIX = 2009 Still fun and relevant.@@harshitallahabaduniversity

[@jesser.1165]

Because it's the same as it was years ago but with really crappy sound as a new feature for 2024.

[@mofumal00]

Crappy sound and crappy editing. Almost like this is a bootleg copy or something.

[@simonreeves2017]

What we did to Turin was absolutely disgusting. I hang my head in shame.

[@arnonsha1]

46:38 this I believe is the main point of this program, Turing's point that very simple laws can lead to very complex systems. I believe the main relevance of this point is that we don't need the idea of a creating god to explain the complexity of the universe and life. With enough time very simple rules will lead to very complex systems. I also suggest a conjecture that the simplest rule of the universe might be the feedback loop itself. This goes well with Chinese Yin Yang philosophy.

[@gonzogeier]

Why is the sound so suppressed? At1:28 tp 1:32 you can hear the difference!

[@christorres3487]

Jim al Khalil is a modern day philosopher.

[@sameerbhat2599]

It was quite silly to say that there is only a need of designer and not a creator.Behind all complicity to simplicity and from order to disorder there is an energy that is working

[@shupinghao8502]

Jim Al-Khalili British theoretical physicist, author and broadcaster

[@arnonsha1]

39:50 this is a good example that shows chaos and order are in the eyes of the beholder.

[@drSamovar]

yet all three.....chao, order, eyes.....are undivided.....even you cant hear your ears, although I can tell you've been trying....

[@thewiseturtle]

The thing is that randomness is deterministic. See Pascal's triangle. Randomness is fully predictable, just not from a local timeline within the whole. That's because we can only follow one timeline as individuals, so we can never know which path we'll take next, as we technically take all possible paths, but each one splits. And then when those that split come back to the same place in the future, they are both different and the same, simultaneously. Like twins, or a river that goes around an island.

[@arnonsha1]

41:33 maybe what shape is it in a sense depends on the level of detail you look at it. Maybe shape too is more in the eyes of the beholder than we seem to think. Just to make it clear I do not suggest subjectivism but rather individualism and perspectivism (which are objective).

[@emmanuelrapheal-dr3kj]

Very Educating. Love it

[@vavilovasvetlana9044]

Chaos and order is the meaning of this lecture.

[@amac6483]

Alan Turing a great man who society at that time condemned because of his sexuality. How many great people even today does society condemned because of different values.

[@arnonsha1]

48:21 not because it is essentially unpredictable, but rather because the system is too complex for our calculating abilities.

[@GeoffreyPitman523]

This may be stupid, but why not turn the dryer sideways and attach directly to the AMS?

[@arnonsha1]

32:58 this sounds a bit like the Buddhist notion of constant change and I tend to disagree with both. The world seems more to be a dialogue between chaos and order, between change and stability. There is always some degree of change and some degree of stability - the amounts change depending on the system, some have more change in them, others more stability.

[@schiacciatrollo]

oh! to me the yin and and yang symbol was what i see/saw within the mandelbrot-set right from the start .. so i guess these otd chinese weren't that bad thinkers .. the yin and yang symbol is also called egg of chaos .. i see it in motion and in 3d .. in my imagination is see the points as a sort of reappearing of the opposite which then grows and grows until it becomes the shape of the original yin and yang symbol .. well, just a snapshot of that inner movie

[@greathey1234]

Great upload thanks

[@ronwood7029]

Laws require a lawmaker , creation requires a creator. Psalms 139 : 14-16 verse 16 ( book =dna)

[@rxj16]

@@ronwood7029 Who created your god?

[@SingHouse]

Watch his other 2 part documentary called Order and Disorder, really good.

[@RANGOArts]

We all know the answer. God. You just want to deny the Truth. You can see God in every creation. And being able to measure it doesn't mean you deny God. You discover God more

[@sumitbhardwaj5612]

It is a great observation

[@Istandby666]

Get these programs to become self aware or to start doing calculations about their own lives and watch where they go. They might teach us.

[@lorenzoderobertis8116]

Beauty comes out of evolution, evolution comes out of beauty.

[@Boballoo]

Order and chaos are flip sides of the same coin. You can't have one without the other. Out of chaos, order will always arise. The progression of order, will always end in chaos. Order must deteriorate. Chaos must smooth out.

[@jimmydean123123]

The Emperor Protects!

[@gibsonbrillantes316]

Can we also apply this all to the question of what is life and is there life in other places if turings discovery is in the bag then by that there will also be other life on other places life that could adapt to other habitat.

[@sambowdin5608]

Before viewing this, I can say I don't quite understand CHAOS Theory. I'm betting Jim Al-Kahili can illuminate it though.

[@OfficielleKENI]

What was the exact mixture Beluso did to have that experience?? Water and what is that yellowish mixture?? 18:18

[@Outofthebox609]

So you mean to say that one could feed do-re-mi into a self-replicating feedback loop and it could spontaniously evolve into Beethoven's Große Fuge? (But then again, it might not - but wait: maybe that's exactly how Beethoven's brain worked?) Marvellous documentary, thanks alot. The only thing that worries me about the notion of utalitarian evolution, is the thought that people might get it into their heads that they could be The Big Selector themselves, and determine what (and who!) is useful and, especially who, is not. Been there, didn't work out so nicely for the rest of the folks..

[@DarrelLaBossiere]

I like the Beethoven comparison. I've written songs (obviously not as good, or good at all for that matter) that start out with a few chords and morph into something more. Patterns lead to deviations from the pattern, but still remain within the overall pattern. It's quite fascinating

[@amac6483]

It wasn't a tragedy. He was hounded by society, the people in power, because he had different values that they didn't agree with and in many respects, to this day, they still don't agree with.

[@suzannebrown2505]

It’s called prejudice and hate for concepts that many people don’t or won’t try to understand. It’s a negative connotation filled with misunderstanding and hate and preys on evil.

[@suzannebrown2505]

Fractals explain the resulting artistic creations through mathematics.

[@HawthorneHillNaturePreserve]

We are each universes created, evolved and recycled. The process is infinite, in all directions from the micro and macro to the quantum. We think we need to look light-years for other universes and aliens (other life), when in fact these universes and other forms of life (Aliens) are all around us and they are us. They are within us. ☀️

[@matthewjpace91]

No one had thought of this self organization? Or you mean Lao Tzu definitely thought of this...?

[@officercrown]

Chaos Is The Crowd Heckler Of The Cosmic Giggle

[@brightphoebesays]

What a unique way to die though, the poison apple, like Snow White. Apparently it's a bitter, acrid taste with a burning after.

[@josephpetrino1741]

profound content.

[@peterolbrisch8970]

Anyone who has "confused" kids should be made to watch this before handing them over to a doctor for hormone therapy.

[@arnonsha1]

49:37 evolution is the process of the constant feedback loop in time.

[@theh1ve]

Random to watch with all the music elements striped out

[@shirlymathew9061]

I thing it is TRUE that secret of life is simple because as a pattern shown is in two dimensions which is multiple dimensional

[@arnonsha1]

57:13 exactly, but why do we need to accept that the universe is not Newtonian to accept this?

[@giuseppeLizzi-rj3er]

God I really don’t want to be depressed anymore god I really want to be happy

[@sabakaromi7384]

Unfortunately this documentary contains so many misconceptions and claims regarding how extremely complex biological systems like living organisms work. While it is brilliant to explain some morphological features and patterns on the basis of simple mathematical equations, there is definitely more than only mathematical equations to explain the differentiation of cells and organs, the physiology and the complexity of the moleculair interactions within the multi-system organisms. For example, there is no place for simple mathematical equations to understand how organisms can create such efficient systems like the neurological, respiratory, reproductive systems, let alone issues like anatomical features and biochemical structures. In biological systems chaos and irregularities can only lead to malfunctioning and eventually the total collapse of that system. Pathology or the science of studying the etiology of diseases is the proof for how significant order is in the normal functioning of the biological organisms.

[@Horvat04]

A seed of a tree refuted him

[@arnonsha1]

51:07 evolution should be considered as more than the biological process but rather the whole process of the universe.

[@ZEZERBING]

Oh... I get it now...I get it now.

[@arnonsha1]

37:33 so maybe chaos and order are attributes of the beholder rather than reality.

[@arnonsha1]

33:42 couldn't both points of view go together? Doesn't science become constantly better at predicting different occurrences? Couldn't the universe be indeed like a clock that we don't understand deeply enough? Are you saying that the universe is inherently unknowable or unpredictable? This sounds strange to me and contrary to what I understand to be the function of science and its enormous success.

[@PaulThatcher-iu5in]

We cannot know more detail because of the uncertainty principle. Take 1 molecule of H2O: we can't exactly know both its location and velocity; the more accurately we measure its v, the less accurate our data for its location (as it's moving); the more accurately we know location, the less we know about its velocity (as we need to see it move). So, the exact initial conditions for even a "cloud" of a few hundred water molecules in a lab can never be known, never mind the trillions in real clouds + seas, nor can we know the exact initial conditions of the air, the exact distribution of incoming solar radiation, etc etc...

[@PaulThatcher-iu5in]

Further: at the subatomic scale, there is the wacky world of quantum behaviour. The old picture of the atom as a ball of "stuff" with little ball-electrons orbiting is out of date; imagine instead a bundle of confined energy surrounded by a "cloud" representing the probability of an electron "being" in any 1 "place" at a given moment. As such, only the probability of their location and behaviour is calculable. At the macro-scale with a gas or liquid, only averages can be calculated: temperature, pressure volume - but these cannot predict the location or velocity of individual molecules.

[@arnonsha1]

@@PaulThatcher-iu5in Thank you, I think that what you are saying is true. My point is that although the universe might be unknowable due to the reasons you pointed out, it might still be perfectly determined. Unknowable does not necessarily entail indeterminism.

[@arnonsha1]

@PaulThatcher-iu5in The concept of probability has mainly to do with epistemology, not metaphysics. The famous "god does not play with dice" it is the probability relative to out knowledge.

[@PaulThatcher-iu5in]

@@arnonsha1 Incorrect, I'm sorry to say: apart from anything else, where did I mention metaphysics? Nowhere, because it has no placein this discussion, which is about physics. My point is not some philosophical/intellectual abstraction, but concerns a real, verifiable, observable phenomenon: the "position" of an electron in an atom, say, can only be probabilistic, not definite; thus is the quantum realm. Einstein's comment, which is very attractive, is wrong - and I say this as someone whose great passion in science is Relativity.

[@stellabocancea9441]

It reminds me of an old Soviet-era film I watched on the same topic: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKa5o3Wne92hjJosi=ssK_d6oIQB4zDWHI. It's fascinating to see how perspectives on chaos theory have evolved over time!

[@priscillawrites6685]

Chemistry>biology

[@cdjm957]

Physics>Chemistry>Biology. In order of which presented itself first, and conveniently already in order of coolness.

[@Elotinib]

Ja, I am a chemist myself; however, I accept that physics makes chemistry; it is stronger than chemistry. You are right.

[@OfficielleKENI]

" A complete dreadful and avoidable..."😂😂😂😂 " One of the shameful episodes in the British Science... "😂😂😂😂😂 They served drama😂😂😂

[@lucvanderstap6417]

If chaos is an infinite number in between chaos and order, order itself will never exist other then as a singularity just like total chaos only can get exist no other then as a singularity like all in between. The universe IS a singularity.

[@Horvat04]

No it was, they say

[@schiacciatrollo]

is framed chaos chaos?

[@XLR8BUNNY]

Self organization is logic, like sedimentation for example.

[@arnonsha1]

58:41 so this I either disagree with or don't understand.

[@manuelmarquezsr8884]

Humans and everything it's living.

[@jonsavage2587]

The only hard, fast rule is there is an EXCEPTION to every rule. This is unpredictability, which is chaos

[@tundrawomansays694]

Science doesn’t care where you’re from, what skin color, what politics etc. are going on with any one.

[@lauriebradley8295]

I n my vision his view is myopic.

[@jacksonlung9710]

No. I agreed that scientists are all smart. Richard Feynman is much wise and trustworthy. His family background was religious. But he did not trust there should be a creator in the universe. He did not agree evolution . I can guess that he understand himself is part of the universe. See if he will come back to take another shape to proof to us and tell us the realty again.

[@schiacciatrollo]

i was looking for a mathematician to whom i would give a simple board of wood and he could calculate the whole tree out of it .. never found one .. saying, if he or she wouldn't be able to rebuilt the whole tree he or she would come to any sort of conclusion or formulas .. not one swallowed the bait .. how comes?

[@PaulThatcher-iu5in]

For the simple reason that your "task" is a precise illustration of why the scientists are right. Take a piece of an oak tree, for example: there are hundreds of millions, billions, trillions of variations within any one species of tree, and these cannot be represented in one sample - what science can know after observing many many samples is the likely limits and parameters which each species in each environment in each era will conform to. That is the essence of science. Your "bait" is "unappetising" to scientists because it's based on a misunderstanding of the situation.

[@Totaro77]

Proof no mind is needed

[@jonr6680]

Fire the guy who did the 'music' track. Nails on a chalk board!!

[@AlbuquerqueImaging]

scientific certainty

[@YNVNEone]

Michael Levin. And his work.

[@mercmanmercman]

You don’t need a creator. Just a designer 😂

[@elroyfudbucker6806]

A designer that's not called "God".

[@JoePizzi-i3d]

A very clever designer or maybe a clumsy accident

[@bryceglenn7132]

The designer is the creator

[@TheMrmeou]

Chaos!!!

[@JonathanSantos-ct3yu]

I love this type of educational science ....! 🧪❤😀

[@dimitargueorguiev9088]

One wishes that humans were made of gold rather than water, carbon and chalk. In such case expectedly there would be no wars as there would be too few humans around..

[@totonow6955]

Hegel's dialectic 38:00

[@kozko-xe1xl]

Energy

[@Onefractalsparkofcreation]

I believe each universe floats like a lily pad on a pond I believe that on the rare occasion , that one universe develops a lotus Zero chaos