The Science of The Expanse

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OrangeRiver

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@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Wow, this is probably the most difficult video I've ever had to edit for my channel! Huge shout out to the editors of The Expanse wiki, without whom I wouldn't have been able to write this script. And special thanks once again to everyone who donated--if you want to get your name in the credits, hit the "Join" button on my channel page or become a patron at patreon.com/orangeriver!
@MichaelKnaepen
@MichaelKnaepen Жыл бұрын
Excellent hour. More please more Expanse
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
I probably *should* do more content with all this Expanse footage I have... 😍
@GopherBaroque61
@GopherBaroque61 Жыл бұрын
@@OrangeRiver Well, what can I say... That was money well spent. Bravo, Tyler.
@wiaf8937
@wiaf8937 Жыл бұрын
@@OrangeRiver yes bossman
@pottierkurt1702
@pottierkurt1702 Жыл бұрын
That was awesome, any chance thee is a "lore" one in the making or on the drawing board?
@TwoWholeWorms
@TwoWholeWorms Жыл бұрын
The fact they managed to keep Avasarala in that grey-area between hero and villain for the entirety of the TV series is a masterstroke, IMO. One of the best characters ever committed to film. Agdashloo is a phenomenal actor, and I can't wait to see what she does next.
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Agreed on all fronts!
@TheHalcyonAnon
@TheHalcyonAnon Жыл бұрын
"You're fcking God damned right." -Avasarala probably
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L Жыл бұрын
The people who say Dukat could be argued to be sort of hero ish should look at Avasarala to see how he fails to stack up. She’s the one who makes you question if her acts of evil were justified, but not Dukat.
@3RAN7ON
@3RAN7ON Жыл бұрын
I can't get past her voice! Sounds like she smokes two packs a day
@argiebarge7955
@argiebarge7955 Жыл бұрын
@@3RAN7ON in a good or bad way?
@CaptainSovereign
@CaptainSovereign Жыл бұрын
From Mass Effect 2: Gunnery Chief: This, recruits, is a 20-kilo ferrous slug. Feel the weight. Every five seconds, the main gun of an Everest-class dreadnought accelerates one to 1.3 percent of light speed. It impacts with the force of a 38-kiloton bomb. That is three times the yield of the city-buster dropped on Hiroshima back on Earth. That means Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son-of-a-b*tch in space. Now! Serviceman Burnside! What is Newton's First Law? Serviceman Burnside: Sir! An object in motion stays in motion, sir! Gunnery Chief: No credit for partial answers, maggot! Serviceman Burnside: Sir! Unless acted on by an outside force, sir! Gunnery Chief: Damn straight! I dare to assume you ignorant jackasses know that space is empty. Once you fire this hunk of metal, it keeps going till it hits something. That can be a ship, or the planet behind that ship. It might go off into deep space and hit somebody else in ten thousand years. If you pull the trigger on this, you are ruining someone's day, somewhere and sometime. That is why you check your damn targets! That is why you wait for the computer to give you a damn firing solution! That is why, Serviceman Chung, we do not "eyeball it!" This is a weapon of mass destruction. You are not a cowboy shooting from the hip! Serviceman Chung: Sir, yes sir!
@DetectiveWarden
@DetectiveWarden Жыл бұрын
I was pleasantly surprised that Mass Effect actually does integrate some real physics into some dialogs you could listen to or have yourself. There’s also another one (I think with a shopkeeper on the Citadel in ME2) where, if you use the paragon dialog option Shepherd talks about inexperienced space travelers asking why the ship turns around at the halfway-point to the destination
@FalconOfStorms
@FalconOfStorms Жыл бұрын
@@DetectiveWarden ME actually started out really caring about the physics of it all. If your ship can't find a place to discharge static, you're going to have a bad time. If the Normandy goes into stealth more, everyone on board is eventually going to be cooked alive because you're not venting heat. Etc.
@Guardian_Arias
@Guardian_Arias Жыл бұрын
@@FalconOfStorms ME even had lore describing why you didn't reload guns and then they had to ruin it by using disposable heatsinks.
@roggonval
@roggonval Жыл бұрын
@@Guardian_Arias u mean thermal clips? They keep weapons from overheating It lets the gun fire with more power, and soldiers can pop in a new clip instead of waiting for the gun to cool down. Pretty useful
@Outworlder
@Outworlder Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/nn3TmKuorppnaK8
@ethal1222
@ethal1222 Жыл бұрын
One aspect of The Expanse I really like is how most of the spaceships are designed purely for functionality over aesthetics (especially the Belter ones). Aerodynamics aren't an issue and there's no need for them to look pretty. They're tools used to do a job and built in the most effective way to do that job.
@Matthew_BKG
@Matthew_BKG Жыл бұрын
Having watched the show and read the books, I love how they both work separate from each other, yet compliment each other at the same time. I really hope we get the last 3 books adapted though, cause the authors have said the first 6 books were just setup and worldbuilding for the story they really wanted to tell, which was the final trilogy of books 7-9. The epilogue was such an emotional read for me, and to see it adapted would be a dream come true.
@PHDiaz-vv7yo
@PHDiaz-vv7yo Жыл бұрын
“Let’s get some beers and get reacquainted” ❤
@Noctua07
@Noctua07 Жыл бұрын
I hope the same.
@derrekvanee4567
@derrekvanee4567 Жыл бұрын
G damn earrhers and able to walk in gravity! Gah errters! Long live the belt!
@rcha2024
@rcha2024 Жыл бұрын
Violence and gore and just same old garbage we been fed by every mainstream cultural status quo for generations ...but with "science" sprinkled all of that crap to make it smell different. You put a cherry on top of dog sh t ....it's still dog sh t.
@Matthew_BKG
@Matthew_BKG Жыл бұрын
@@rcha2024 Yeah okay mr contrarian, how about you actually watch or read it before being so blatantly wrong about it.
@underscore8256
@underscore8256 Жыл бұрын
The Expanse in season 1 and 2 was the most faithful book to screen translation I have ever seen. It was only when sci-fi canceled them that they were forced to squish book 3 into 5 episodes. Because of that, they had to deviate, combining some characters' roles into one. Drummer in the show was an amalgamation of characters from the books. Even with that, they stuck faithfully to the spirit of the books, culminating in, if not The, one of the best hard science fiction works ever put to screen. Thank you for The Expanse, and for the content. This video brought me to your channel, and the TNG stuff will keep me coming back :)
@IreneWY
@IreneWY Жыл бұрын
I was quite sad, when I got to Calaban's war and there was no Drummer in the book 🤣 I loved her
@markmontagna7637
@markmontagna7637 10 ай бұрын
@@IreneWYI was the opposite bull and sammy were two of my favorite characters and I was sad they didn’t get adapted to the show
@jeremyippolito7461
@jeremyippolito7461 Жыл бұрын
That show was gold. One of the best Sci fi shows ever made. Its infuriating that amazon didn't let them finish the story properly.
@goheen1701
@goheen1701 Жыл бұрын
With 9 books and numerous novellas & short stories to adapt, all the actors would have died of old age before they could have finished the story properly, but I agree that the show deserved much more than it got! At least it didn't end on an unresolved cliff-hanger like FOX did with 'Space: Above & Beyond' (a vastly inferior but fun show).
@dustincurtis9418
@dustincurtis9418 Жыл бұрын
*sigh, as usual.
@brianegendorf2023
@brianegendorf2023 Жыл бұрын
@@goheen1701 There is a 30 year jump in the story, and still many decades unfold as the story progresses. But you could technically just age people for the show and shoot it now. Barring that, now that Tell Tale has made the games, maybe animating the end of the series is the way to go..that way, everyone can just voice themselves, and the animators can take care of the rest.
@deaddropsd1972
@deaddropsd1972 Жыл бұрын
AGREED.
@daha1214
@daha1214 3 ай бұрын
the fist three seasons where so damn good. It was something really special. The Amazon seasons was good too, but didnt reach the level of facination
@jeffreyatlee8785
@jeffreyatlee8785 Жыл бұрын
There is little I am coming to enjoy more than having an amazing story reviewed by a quality channel. Thanks for your work.
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jeffrey 😎
@stuartwelch6432
@stuartwelch6432 Жыл бұрын
What I liked most about The Expanse was that most of the tech mentioned, we "almost" have. There is no warp or impulse drive and artificial gravity, as such. What we don't have is the manufacturing ability. I wouldn't place the "start" of the Expanse more than 100 years out.
@cannon26ify
@cannon26ify 9 ай бұрын
We're still way off from being able to have miniaturized fusion drives like they have in the expanse however.
@stuartwelch6432
@stuartwelch6432 9 ай бұрын
@cannon26ify But I think we still have just about everything else.. Given time, I'm sure we can make that too.
@robertagren9360
@robertagren9360 8 ай бұрын
We either have it or we don't. Then it is up to giants to upscale the idea
@mr.rabbit5642
@mr.rabbit5642 7 ай бұрын
You couldn't really tell how much time has passed between episodes or during travel coz it felt like none, which made me think they kinda 'shrunk' the entire system in the series
@daha1214
@daha1214 3 ай бұрын
I think too the expanse is possible, but climat change and liberalism will fuck us into stone age and there will no old indian ladie that can guide us XD
@mroxion8271
@mroxion8271 Жыл бұрын
What put this show over the top for me with regards to detail to science is that in some scenes of the show you can see the PDCs use the exhaust gas of the round as counter thrust to keep the ship from spinning. They didn't need to go that detailed when rendering the amazing space battles but holy shit do I appreciate the effort.
@afriendofafriend5766
@afriendofafriend5766 Жыл бұрын
What annoys me is that they do that but then they have no heat dissipation for the ships. So many huge blunders from the team as well.
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Heat management for a weapon so powerful is definitely going to be a massive issue to resolve, but I'd expect two to three centuries of engineering progress to address that
@pottierkurt1702
@pottierkurt1702 Жыл бұрын
A 1 hour "the expanse "video, imma heat up some hotpockets, get a 420 ready and really enjoy this. Thanks Tyler, what a welcme surprise you sneaky ****
@spacecitizen6756
@spacecitizen6756 Жыл бұрын
Totes.
@frocurl
@frocurl Жыл бұрын
Lol that's awesome
@--cs3
@--cs3 Жыл бұрын
right there with ya, bossmang
@mikeumm
@mikeumm Жыл бұрын
Dude, right?! Just got home from the bar, smoked a bowl, and came across this video... Hyped! Love the Expanse and this channel.
@D.M.S.
@D.M.S. Жыл бұрын
420 sucks
@jamesabernethy7896
@jamesabernethy7896 Жыл бұрын
Currently suffering a power cut since Monday. Surviving on mobile data so can’t wait to be able to watch this Properly. A great setting for you to cover. You and all your other subscribers an amazing Christmas and new year.
@renaissanceredneck73
@renaissanceredneck73 Жыл бұрын
Where are ya at that you've been without power since Monday? What caused the power to go down? Just seems like a long time to be without power
@ma7mgte
@ma7mgte Жыл бұрын
Had to watch this one on the couch. Great job!
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@edgarvilar2128
@edgarvilar2128 Жыл бұрын
38:10 the books mention that the spinning of Ceres was done by Tycho with drives that were then removed. I don't recall if it was Eppstein Drives or Torch drives though, it is also mentioned that it took several years, maybe decades (can't quite recall) but it is regarded as one of the greatest engineering projects of the Belt, allong with Tycho station itself and the Navoo/Bahemoth/Medina. I can't speak of the methods employed on the other asteroids though.
@dog3y3
@dog3y3 10 ай бұрын
@ 17:00 The comrade from Mars who threw up upon walking out of the ship at the UN did so because of the horizon, and lack of ceiling. Most Mars residents are in domes and sealed compartments. Very few actually roam the surface outside. So his reaction of puking was because he had no ceiling above him and actually had a distant horizon in his view. It wasn't the gravity that made him sick, but the view. it's also possible the natural light from the sun might have affected him as well. That's why the sunglasses were handed out. Bobby Draper trains in Earth gravity. She didn't stumble from the gravity, she stumbled from the view as well.
@MikaHusk
@MikaHusk Жыл бұрын
Hot damn this channel is about to blow up, such high production value. Found you cause of star trek, but keen as to see other content like this
@brentpalmer8001
@brentpalmer8001 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see you do a video on Martian terraforming again, especially with some of the new information Kurzgesagt brought to my attention (the space lasers).
@jamesjoelholmes4541
@jamesjoelholmes4541 Жыл бұрын
Really well done my friend. The Expanse is just so awe inspiring. I can tell that you put a ton of work into this one. I learned some things about physics that I didn't know about. Keep up the amazing work!
@AlexandraBryngelsson
@AlexandraBryngelsson Жыл бұрын
Tungsten, just means "heavy stone" in Swedish.They named it that because they first found it in a small village in Sweden
@beaver6d9
@beaver6d9 Жыл бұрын
Cool!
@OdariArt
@OdariArt Жыл бұрын
The Expanse is awesome. Love me some Bobbie Draper❤💪. "Decades, decades man. Fuck!" Thanks for that, Tyler. Lol!
@amyhogarten5038
@amyhogarten5038 Жыл бұрын
This is was a fantastic video: robust in its details in explaining a piece Science Fiction that is well worth explaining. A great deal of hard work and thought went into its production. Thank you‼️
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Thank you Amy!
@joemck74
@joemck74 Жыл бұрын
I love the way the MTF drive looks so 'mechanical' - like it could lead the big locomotives in space, with hundreds of pistons pounding away and ships stopping at comets etc to fill-up with water during their trips.
@sparkygump
@sparkygump Жыл бұрын
Best sci fi show since the Battlestar Gallactica reboot.
@PwncakeOW
@PwncakeOW Жыл бұрын
This man gets it.
@cellokid5104
@cellokid5104 6 ай бұрын
Ehhhh idk
@zzzxhrg
@zzzxhrg Жыл бұрын
Man, what a wonderful video you made here. The Expanse deserves more love, and you gave it all. Respect.
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Thank you Christian!
@HolgerNestmann
@HolgerNestmann Жыл бұрын
This was amazing. Reading along in the comments was great as well. Thank you
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Thanks! You're a brave soul if you can venture down into the comments of a KZbin video lol
@ryanjones7681
@ryanjones7681 Жыл бұрын
I love how stargates are becoming more and more accepted in science.
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Honestly, me too 😍
@ryanjones7681
@ryanjones7681 Жыл бұрын
@@OrangeRiver Makes ya wonder eh? Can't wait to see what the next decade unveils!
@afriendofafriend5766
@afriendofafriend5766 Жыл бұрын
In what science? I don't see how they're realistic at all.
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Theoretical physics, my friend. Wormholes were predicted by Einstein. Obviously, there's a huge difference between math predicting something and actually observing it, but that's how we discovered black holes. Wormholes may be rare if negative energy does not occur in sufficient quantities, but until we have a Theory of Everything, they're still within the realm of possibility.
@scambammer6102
@scambammer6102 Жыл бұрын
@@afriendofafriend5766 "In what science?" science fiction
@Jonathan-ug9yu
@Jonathan-ug9yu Жыл бұрын
Correction on AI. Apologies if already mentioned. Ty is on the record saying there are thousands of AI all over the show and books supporting literally every major and minor function of travel and life in space, they're just not Asimov's idea of AI, they run systems
@Jonathan-ug9yu
@Jonathan-ug9yu Жыл бұрын
Great video btw, thanks
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Yeah I should clarify that there's not really any sentient AI, but yeah, there's obviously automated systems running things in the background 👍
@intellectualredneck1813
@intellectualredneck1813 Жыл бұрын
Bobby and her comapanion did NOT throw up/get disoriented when then stepped on earth because of the gravity!!!! They got disoriented due to the Horizon Effect of not being inside a dome/enclosed enviorment!!!! It had nothing to do with gravity at all. It's stated MANY times as well as her struggle, that everytime she looks up, the world seems to go on for intinity. Still, you did a great video! The Expanse is the greatest scifi show to ever hit the market!
@undacable
@undacable Жыл бұрын
Great job with the production value on this one dude!
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Credit to my cinematographer for helping bring this one to life
@mattcorley4622
@mattcorley4622 Жыл бұрын
Greatest video release of the year! One hour! Boom ya'll.
@beezelbuzzel
@beezelbuzzel Жыл бұрын
Awesome video man! I appreciate all the work that goes into the scripted long form stuff. It's a ton of work. Orange River really knocked it out of the park on this one! I've never checked out The Expanse, but I might have to now!
@robertharper3754
@robertharper3754 Жыл бұрын
The books are fantastic, the tv show blew my mind and expectations for any tv show. The show really knocked it out of the park, it is arguably the best scifi tv show ever made as far as realism goes, and one of the best scifi tv shows ever made.
@TheJanda777
@TheJanda777 Жыл бұрын
You are like being in a room with a friend talking about the things that a friend would only think of bringing up. Love it!
@s0aps768
@s0aps768 Жыл бұрын
Had to finish the show before watching this video. Great job Tyler 👍I'm praying for another couple of seasons of The Expanse, covering the Ring Builders and the Dark Gods!
@Mirakuruuu
@Mirakuruuu Жыл бұрын
The Expanse has the right amount of Sci-Fi balance into it. Not too much. Not too less. Just perfect. No laser canons bs. No faster than the speed of light quantum drive bs. No human and alien races united organization bs. Its just pure realistic sci fi to its perfection. This show deserves to be continued
@jessa1895
@jessa1895 Жыл бұрын
What bad luck to release a show centered around the EPSTEIN drive when they did 😂
@PwncakeOW
@PwncakeOW Жыл бұрын
At work rn, but I can't wait to watch tonight!!! 1 hour expanse video les gooooo. Always dig the music in your videos too. Keep up the hard work. You have the talent.
@KC_Smooth
@KC_Smooth 9 ай бұрын
Finally watched all 6 seasons of this show over the last 2 months and it’s become my favorite TV show right next to Star Trek TNG. I’m now hit with a wave of sadness that there is no season 7 planned😭.
@quantafreeze
@quantafreeze Жыл бұрын
This sounds so cool. I've literally never heard of this.
@kartoflur145
@kartoflur145 11 ай бұрын
I'm pretty late to this video, but at 22:03, you say there's very little AI in the Expanse. AI in the Expanse is everywhere, just a lot more subtle than in other shows. Almost all targeting is done by AI, people use AI to access documents, AI plots ship routes, allows Miller to create a Julie voice when he's in her apartment, etc. Other than that, well made video!
@konker420
@konker420 Жыл бұрын
You are awesome. Keep up the great work my man. You produce better content than any major television network I can think of. If I weren't so poor I would donate to the patreon. Thanks for being you.
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much--if I weren't so poor I'd be able to have this kind of production value more often lol
@pimpinaintdeadho
@pimpinaintdeadho Жыл бұрын
Such a great and underrated show.
@Malchior_Rises
@Malchior_Rises Жыл бұрын
i appreciate that you said "legitimately salvaged" and yes it is christmas and it is comforting to listen to an overview of The Expanse :)
@keller1334
@keller1334 Жыл бұрын
A well presented video on my favorite science fiction series. Thank you.
@Saturnine21
@Saturnine21 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic overview, an excelent way for new-comers and fans alike to enjoy and keep enjoying this amazingly built universe. Lets hope for a spinoff or a final adaptation of the last couple of books. Fantastic work!
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@joeywall4657
@joeywall4657 Жыл бұрын
I'm going to have to start binging this show in the truck while I'm on the road. You've got me stoked to see it. Also, I love your location videos. It's fun to see you outside.
@xen1313
@xen1313 Жыл бұрын
Covering the Goliath Armor. The DNA coding might be retconned. Diego and 2 others took over Bobby's armor when Ashford attempted to destroy the ring with the Com's lazer. He chased Holden, Naomi, and Drumer up the Elevator shaft, only to be taken out by the elevator. He was locked out of the Arm mounted gatling which might be the part that was DNA coded.
@jonny-b4954
@jonny-b4954 Жыл бұрын
Yeah they did that through hacking though. Maybe that was just the books though. Makes sebse only weapons would be locked so you could move the armor when no one using it
@antonleimbach648
@antonleimbach648 Жыл бұрын
Great discussion, The Expanse is an excellent series and I’m sad to see it end.
@DrVunderbahr
@DrVunderbahr Жыл бұрын
It'd be worth doing a video on the actual scientific concepts behind the Protomolecule and the things it can do. There are good write-ups on this on the Expanse Subreddit. Lots of weird theoretical quantum stuff
@guard13007
@guard13007 Жыл бұрын
As someone who has only watched season 1, I have to thank you for the minimal spoilers in this. There were significant things here, but I cared more than I expected to about spoilers, and there were few here. Edit: Well, I said that before the final part.. but I have no one to blame but myself for that.
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tangent Plays. I certainly tried, although in a video like this, yeah, some major things are going to be revealed...but it's not like I didn't warn everyone lol. You'd be surprised how many people have complained that this video contained spoilers EVEN IN SPITE of me clearly saying there would be. Glad you enjoyed the video!
@misterlau5246
@misterlau5246 Жыл бұрын
Hello Tyler? Whoa, I have seen videos of yours at home or studio I don't know, but this is in exteriors! Whoa filmed on location! whoa mate! This was a surprise for me, and I'm just around minute 3 and already, this is a gigantic amount of work, production level is going up! It's lots of material you have put here, way to go, all of the ppl who work in this channel!
@ricardioscarbonara102
@ricardioscarbonara102 Жыл бұрын
you are an absolute star (excuse the loose pun) I love anything expanse related, it's clear you've gone all in for this one, well done and thank you.....Inyalowda
@damenwhelan3236
@damenwhelan3236 Жыл бұрын
Wait... so the epstein drive imparts 1 g as it accelerates? That's brilliant!
@masterpython
@masterpython Жыл бұрын
It can do way more. Enough to kill people
@ClintSprayberry
@ClintSprayberry Жыл бұрын
Ahhhhhhhhhh Yes!! Here we go with a SciFi Friday serving so salacious, so savory it's sinful! Save your work and put the laptop away, it's time for Orange River's analysis of ..... The Expanse!!!
@kevinjohnson7553
@kevinjohnson7553 Жыл бұрын
This would serve as an awesome video intro!
@ClintSprayberry
@ClintSprayberry Жыл бұрын
@@kevinjohnson7553 😁 I do what I can! I genuinely do love the videos on this channel though. I in fact am a man of science myself, and, it is clear that the writer(s) do their homework. So whenever I see a new video pop up I get excited and start acting like a mentally challenged heathen 🤣
@kevinjohnson7553
@kevinjohnson7553 Жыл бұрын
@@ClintSprayberry Tyler's content is excellent, no question.👍🖖
@ClintSprayberry
@ClintSprayberry Жыл бұрын
@@kevinjohnson7553 🖖
@AndrewPasq
@AndrewPasq Жыл бұрын
clicked it without thinking... thought it was going to be a ENT storying about random science about possible weird shit in space (star trek) Saw the shitty acting and realized it was Orange's take on "The Expanse" and made myself a drink for an hour of good content.... EntEducate me.... Orangeriver man... This is why I subscribe.
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
...shitty acting?
@IThinkAndIWonder
@IThinkAndIWonder Жыл бұрын
An expansive explanation of what's possible. Thank you sir! Much enjoyed!
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701
@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701 Жыл бұрын
So even the Tholians wouldn't be save from the Protomolecule...
@PoorPersonsBookReviewer
@PoorPersonsBookReviewer Жыл бұрын
I'm currently reading the expanse novels, and you did great at explaining something's I was hoping the books went deeper into without spoilers. Thanks for all the star Trek videos too lol
@jymfysher7704
@jymfysher7704 Жыл бұрын
Tyler,the world's first Sci-Fi Journalist !!
@markjmaxwell9819
@markjmaxwell9819 Жыл бұрын
Never seen an episode but is on the must watch list after this KZbin video .
@MonCappy
@MonCappy Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed your deep dive into The Expanse. Watching it really made me want to get into the series when time allows. Having said that, there is one thing that has always annoyed me about the praise for the show. And that is how critics praise how realistic it is. Now I should point out here that I do acknowledge the show is definitely on the harder side of science fiction, but there is one thing that still annoys me. And that is that the show is called realistic. It isn't. The show doesn't depict a realistic future space faring humanity, but a plausible one. By this I mean that the show does not reflect a present reality. We aren't a multiple planet civilization. We haven't fought wars in space. Everything involving the space and technology based aspects of the show are entirely speculative. The politics and the intrigue aspects of the show are realistic as I happen to think it'll be centuries (if not millennia) before we learn to coexist peacefully as a species, if ever. Now, here is why I call the show plausible and not realistic. We don't have a complete picture of the physics that cover the universe. For decades we've been trying to reconcile quantum mechanics with general relativity with no success. Achieving that reconciliation will almost certainly require the discovery of new physics. This will lead to, I think one of two possible outcomes. The first will be the discovery of practical workarounds the light speed limit to allow for faster than light travel that doesn't break causality and allows for the exploration of interstellar space within a single human lifetime. The other outcome will forever foreclose any such possible loopholes with a complete picture of the rules governing our cosmos known to us. Without this knowledge we can't assume that the future depicted in hard science fiction is realistic, if for no other reason than because there may be future discoveries that change what we think is realistic. On the other hand, hard science fiction is much more plausible than shows that depict humanity traveling the stars in faster than light ships.
@victorfinberg8595
@victorfinberg8595 Жыл бұрын
2 points 1) if you can get fusion power to work, then there's an awful lot of other stuff you can do. 2) just because technology keeps advancing at an enormous rate does not mean that any particular technology you want to have will definitely become available.
@jdogdarkness
@jdogdarkness Жыл бұрын
The Expanse is easily my favorite science fiction show if not show in general. *_#BringBackTheExpanse_*
@ketzerapathetic1414
@ketzerapathetic1414 Жыл бұрын
Yo, I thought this was gonna be about the Expanse in Enterprise's third season. I didn't even know this was a show. XD
@captsam54
@captsam54 Жыл бұрын
Excellent.. Love the Expanse.. Wish it was still running..
@surryan
@surryan Жыл бұрын
Ok wow, I know this is literally the briefest of overviews of the science of the Expanse. But man for anyone with even a basic understanding of some of the science involved; you have done a proper job! Thank you, I will be linking this video forward for others to watch. Mainly because I want to see more scifi with levels of realism that can be explained. But also because I think most of the first season if not parts of the second, (not counting protomolocule until it or something like it is discovered) is more or less plausable.
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@grantaum9677
@grantaum9677 2 ай бұрын
Oh I think it has extreme relevance to the mrna tech in hindsight
@lesterlewis3024
@lesterlewis3024 Жыл бұрын
One of your best videos! Loved the breakout and couldn't agree more that the technology seems very plausible.
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Thanks Lester!!
@Jifuryu
@Jifuryu Ай бұрын
You forgot to mention that players can tap Sol Ring to add 2 generic mana to their mana pool.
@Dwuudz
@Dwuudz Жыл бұрын
This show NEEDS to come back.
@TheGreenAnorak
@TheGreenAnorak Жыл бұрын
Brilliant, amazing, fantastic, entertaining. Thank you for this OR. I have not read the books but just finished watching the series. It always stuck me as a more 'hard-fi' rather than 'sci-fi' show and this proves it.
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@TheGreenAnorak
@TheGreenAnorak Жыл бұрын
​@@OrangeRiver(up late) watching this again. Love your observation on acceleration. You should read the Hyperion series. Very interesting version of 'acceleration' in those books.
@BTScriviner
@BTScriviner Жыл бұрын
Bravo. I read only the first four books and watched only the first two seasons (before it moved to Amazon), but I thought you did a really great job of explaining the technology of the Expanse universe.
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@jonny-b4954
@jonny-b4954 Жыл бұрын
Oh man you've gotta finish the series. Get better every season unlike most shows. Books too. Though last 3 are... Weird and detached from rest of series in my opinion
@ashleycross7593
@ashleycross7593 Жыл бұрын
The science of the expanse is absolute 😍
@cbhlde
@cbhlde Жыл бұрын
Hmm, watch the seasons of the Expanse, that I missed so far because of your spoiler warning,... or watch the video,... hmm, hmmm,... ah, well, you won! Great stuff! :)
@g-urts5518
@g-urts5518 Жыл бұрын
I'm a little upset with you OrangeRiver... I discovered your videos about 4 days ago and I'm so addicted that I stayed up till about 230am watching them last night. Work really sucked this morning.... 😝🤣
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
I've been there before! Lol
@shaggycan
@shaggycan Жыл бұрын
14:38 that's actually not normally the case. Remember belters are used to 1/3rd G or less, so most ships usually aim for about 1/3rd G delta V. Earthers do have a huge advantage because the crews can take highers thrusts and still fuction. That is why MCRN troops train at 1G.
@rudolfcsampai9549
@rudolfcsampai9549 Жыл бұрын
you use delta v wrong. delta v is the tortal sum velocity change ability. if you lets say have 10 km/sec delta v, you can reach low earth orbit from the surface. accelerating is measured by m/sec squared, or g.
@shaggycan
@shaggycan Жыл бұрын
@@rudolfcsampai9549 delta v means change in velocity. It has for like a century. Wikipedia it.
@rudolfcsampai9549
@rudolfcsampai9549 Жыл бұрын
@@shaggycan yea, or maybe booth, smartass. (i mean stupid) when you have a space craft, it has a delta v stored as fuel. that delta v is the ships ability to change v. it doesnt have any special name. when a rocket has about 10 km/s delta v and more than 1.2 G of thrust, then it can reach stable earth orbit from the surface. and it simply said the rocket has 10km/s delta v, we dont call it some special name. mybe you should wikipedia it, or google it, i dunno. delta v is not measured with g or with any other acceleration, because it is not.
@MikoyanGurevich-xc7ft
@MikoyanGurevich-xc7ft Жыл бұрын
@@shaggycan it means the total potential velocity change... it's not a measure of acceleration.
@Disinterested1
@Disinterested1 Жыл бұрын
I loved this series and cannot wait to see more of this universe!
@1Tankmarine
@1Tankmarine Жыл бұрын
As a sc-fi type of guy, who loves Math (until Calc 2.) , and whom appreciates learning, I just wanted to say "Thank You" for your time and effort that you put into this thought out educational presentation. Have a great one.
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Thank you too!
@vit.budina
@vit.budina Жыл бұрын
The hand terminals in the expanse probably work only as access points to a cloud computing centre, which could explain why all the terminals went down with the power on Eris in the early episodes. This would also make the clear aesthetic more viable since it removes the need for a local hefty computing unit and only requires a data and power receiver and a display, plus maybe the acrylic sheet might include some piezo-electric circuitry that vibrates the material to turn the entire device into a speaker.
@andrewexum394
@andrewexum394 Жыл бұрын
Shit, now I have to go watch the entire show again lol
@edgarvilar2128
@edgarvilar2128 Жыл бұрын
Great video, but a minor remark: At 14:05 you mention that the show and "elsewhere" state that the Expanse ships use chemical rockets to land and take of from planets, however it is simply not possible to achieve the required efficiencies for that with chemistry. Today's current rockets are mostly chemical and are already squeezing ~80% of the maximal theoretical efficiency out of their fuel and yet most of their mass is fuel. The Expanse ships seem to only have about 10 to 20% of their mass as fuel, and in the books the fuel is always mentioned to be water so it can't be chemistry. The books state several times that the ships land and take off from planets with a mix of the Epstein drive at high altitudes, to avoid "glassing" the surface, and maneuvering thrusters at low altitudes. These maneuvering thrusters are mentioned to require a large amount of electrical energy and produce a plume of super heated steam, so they're fuel is probably water that is super heated by battery power or electrical energy produced by the reactor. These thrusters could theoretically achieve much higher efficiencies than chemical rockets (though lower efficiencies of the Epstein drive), so the concept is feasible. Additionally ships without (or not using) Epstein Drives are mentioned to fly "tea-kettle" witch matches this idea. The books also some times refer to chemical rockets but never in the concept of ships, instead they are used on a small scale, for cheap applications too accelerate small improvised crafts for instance.
@steyefong590
@steyefong590 Жыл бұрын
I read the same thing. In the books, water is used as reaction mass. I supposed most engines use fusion to superheat the water to create the exhaust for thrust. Epstein drive is the advanced version of fusion drive the is capable of sustaining fusion for interplanetary flight. Some of the ships do not have Epstein drive but just fusion drive such the Zhang Guo which Amos, Erich, and Clarissa commandeered to escape to Luna.
@edgarvilar2128
@edgarvilar2128 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, those fusion drives are often called torch drives , or just torches.
@liamjohnston2000
@liamjohnston2000 Жыл бұрын
@Steye Fong The Zhang Guo, in the show at least, does have a fusion drive. In order to escape their pursuers quickly, they launched up using the fusion drive rather than the normal chemical rockets, completely destroying the compound and killing everyone inside.
@steyefong590
@steyefong590 Жыл бұрын
@@liamjohnston2000 Yup, they literally torched everyone in the compound when they launched.
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt Жыл бұрын
Maybe you can add an after burner to the space shuttle main engines ( which also output super heated steam plus H2). At that temperature there are already a lot of ions to work with.
@bryanschmidt7336
@bryanschmidt7336 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I was so sad when The Expanse left Netflix. I hope to see the remaining seasons someday
@Galaxy-o2e
@Galaxy-o2e 9 ай бұрын
The Mormons payed a fortune to make a colony ship just for it to be used as a mobile freedom fighter HQ
@carnifexor3010
@carnifexor3010 Жыл бұрын
Depending on Lore vs Cannon argument, where Laser weapons are in the The Expanse book series, but suppprisingly not within the television series (unless I'm mistaken about this). It could be a timing consideration of when both show & books were written. Given the R&D & the 50 kw to 300 kw lasers in production today, one would think such weapons would be even more prominent in a greater refractionless environment such as space. The power generation was certainly available in ships of The Expanse, far much more than today. Commercial use in mining, point defense, lances, and general heat impact weapons should be very realistic within the show. Laser weapons should be capable of altering or stopping a rail gun shot. This would certainly be the case of point defense against missles & attacking a ship (especially at a a point of greater vulnerability).
@lunaticbz3594
@lunaticbz3594 Жыл бұрын
The main issue I see with lasers is that if they are done realistic, you'd never actually see it. There is one scene with a laser being used towards the end of season 3, you can see the path the laser travels which isn't realistic but I feel they had to show it otherwise the audience would just be very confused, especially since the laser missed.
@Hal2718
@Hal2718 Жыл бұрын
The only instance of a laser I can recall from either the books or the show is what ​ @Lunatic BZ mentioned which was both in the show and the book series. Otherwise everything else is PDC's, railguns and missiles.
@jpharri
@jpharri Жыл бұрын
> Laser weapons should be capable of altering or stopping a rail gun shot A laser will not have enough momentum to counter that in the rail gun projectile. Sure the laser might melt the projectile into a rough slag, but in empty frictionless space this change of shape won't make any difference to it's velocity, especially over the limited range that rail guns are used at. >Against a missile A laser may blow it up prematurely, the wreckage will no longer explode but will still cause damage if it hits anything - and it may still be travelling towards the target... > Guided Missile Probably hoping the laser will destroy the guidance system, though as above it's still a fast moving object in space. I don't think lasers prove as good a weapon as first thought. Mass with momentum seems a winner.
@lunaticbz3594
@lunaticbz3594 Жыл бұрын
@@jpharri You only have to change the trajectory of a rail gun shot though to make it not hit you. Though your right at limited range that isn't happening and rail guns are already only being used at limited ranges since otherwise you can just dodge them. Against the missiles we see in the show most of them are nuclear so really regardless of what you damage on the missile or blowing it up it's a lot better then letting it detonate. Even if the debris directly hits the ship. *edit, just realized in my ramblings forgot to say its not the impact of a laser that redirects a projectile its because whatever the laser hits some portion of the projectile will be turned into heated gas, plasma, light etc. As that leaves the projectile thats why it changes directions. That said in real world the cat and mouse game between weapons and defenses. If people used laser defense weapons you'd just build missiles to negate that defense as much as possible.
@bjaarki
@bjaarki Жыл бұрын
Great analysis as always. Was worth the wait since seeing the community post! Sincerely hope we get a 7th season eventually. I really need to read the books, they'll just have to wait til I've gotten through "the pile" first.
@CorvoFG
@CorvoFG Жыл бұрын
Never heard of this show. Must track it down and give it a look.
@TymeTraveling777
@TymeTraveling777 Жыл бұрын
Best sci Fi show of the last 5 years... It's super underrated
@NefariousKoel
@NefariousKoel Жыл бұрын
It's a great sci-fi series (on Am Prime). A lot of people say they were kinda lost and confused during the first few episodes, but once getting through all that setup an overwhelming number love it. I didn't really have that issue early on, so YMMV. Either way, it's definitely worth getting into. Especially if you like more plausible, "hard" sci-fi.
@JordonVirtue
@JordonVirtue Жыл бұрын
Drummer in the thumbnail we call that a Drumnail.
@Asitis513
@Asitis513 3 ай бұрын
🎉🎉🎉Love the intro!!!
@tma78
@tma78 Жыл бұрын
was an awesome series. loved the OPA struggle and camina was awesome along side draper from mars story arcs.
@MikinessAnalog
@MikinessAnalog Жыл бұрын
"for decades man, DECADES" lol i just died lol
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
DECADES, MAN FUCK
@tevvya
@tevvya Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great video. Your research really showed up on the screen. One of the largest technologies in the Expanse is the one you cannot see: radiation shielding. The travelers in the Expanse never worry about ionizing galactic radiation (cosmic rays). That either means that the writers dispensed with the reality of radiation OR they assumed a mechanism of shielding which--by the time of the story--was so common as to vanish from conversation (like drywall today maybe). It is interesting that there are death chambers on Eros which use "hard" radiation to kill belters en masse (parallels to Nazi gas chambers are stark). Current discussions about cosmic ray protection are found in many places but with few workable solutions. Thanks again for your work.
@InstigatorDJ
@InstigatorDJ Жыл бұрын
Appreciate this in depth look. My favorite scifi show of all time. Hands down.
@banderse77
@banderse77 Жыл бұрын
Nice segment.
@bennettonsager5524
@bennettonsager5524 3 ай бұрын
This was a very in-depth look into one of my favorite series, both as a show and a book series. I even grew up with the actor who played Eric (the crime lord of Baltimore) in season 5. I wish the series continued because the Laconian Empire Arch is really cool.
@thenderson260
@thenderson260 Жыл бұрын
I just finished book five and have only seen clips of the show. It seems like they have been very accurate to the books. Thank you for doing this! It was great.
@IreneWY
@IreneWY Жыл бұрын
The show was great. It's a shame they didn't promote it more and it ended up cancelled. :(
@frocurl
@frocurl Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tyler a great video well done on my favorite new space show.
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Thank you Aaron!
@carloshenriquezimmer7543
@carloshenriquezimmer7543 Жыл бұрын
Small Correction: Spin Gravity pulls outwards, not inwards, so the Belt cities were built on the "roof" of the underground tunnels.
@OrangeRiver
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Ah, it appears I did mix this up lol. I definitely meant it the other way around
@HellOnWheel
@HellOnWheel Жыл бұрын
Haven't had a chance to watch it yet but am looking forward to it. (This video. I've seen the Expanse)
@ShaunRF
@ShaunRF Жыл бұрын
One thing I would like to bring up is the estimate of 14 billion people being the max our planet can support. This number likely has a lot of assumptions behind it, such as the use of traditional open-air agriculture providing the food for the population. It is important to consider that simply replacing our traditional farm land with enclosed with greenhouses could produce enough food to support 10 times our current population, while using no more land or water to do so. To say nothing of things like automated floating farms on the ocean, or similar ideas. When your society has technology such as fusion energy, like the world of the Expanse does, you could potentially use less land than we do currently, via vertical farming or even subterranean farms. We should not underestimate the impact of things like advanced automation or cheap and abundant energy.
@sierra1513
@sierra1513 Жыл бұрын
we could double our food supply if we stopped farming meat and just ate the crop used to feed livestock, not to mention that we already produce way more food than we consume, its just theres no profit to getting it to starving people
@goheen1701
@goheen1701 Жыл бұрын
It was very amusing the way your elbows gesticulate with nearly every word you speak! Very entertaining!
@Danogil
@Danogil Жыл бұрын
Colonel John Paul Stapp (July 11, 1910 - November 13, 1999), M.D., Ph.D., was an American career U.S. Air Force officer, flight surgeon, physician, biophysicist, and pioneer in studying the effects of acceleration forces on humans. He was a colleague and contemporary of Chuck Yeager, and became known as "the fastest man on earth". His work on Project Man High pioneered many developments for the US space program. Stapp entered the U.S. Army Air Forces on 5 October 1944 as a physician and qualified as a flight surgeon. Stapp died peacefully at his home in Alamogordo, NM at the age of 89.
@pboytrif1
@pboytrif1 8 ай бұрын
I liked the video when you said "decades man... F**k... im sorry I spit a little bit" ... dont know what that says about me, but there you go
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