The Scientists Versus Dartmouth: Inside a Sexual Harassment Scandal That Shook Science to Its Core

[@antonia8382]

“It’s not for us to have shame, it’s for them.“ Gisèle Pelicot

[@HomeFromFarAway]

This will be a revolution ❤

[@vacafuega]

Wise words and absolutely true!

[@josephbelisle5792]

It is a shame on all humanity. We can justly blame these monsters for their behavior but it takes a culture to create them. They were not made in a lab by a mad scientist. Its all of society that is to blame. We are to blame. We need to change our culture or this will continue.

[@GB-TX]

Iconic.

[@vsanchez7158]

Word.

[@RachelsSweetie]

A friend experienced a similar rape culture while getting a PhD at another Ivy League school. They are correct, letting people resign and retire won't change a thing.

[@adityakhanna113]

Yes! At least they launched an investigation and were supposed to fire them. Hope there's no next time, but if there is, then they should be fired

[@MaTara01]

I don't know why people think that this is an unusual story. The education sector in the West is full of such stories. It exists across all levels from primary school to university level. One influential American educationist told me that the post doc scene is "full of sex". One can complain, put one's career at risk, and investigations are launched, matters reach to the top, and nothing gets done. The perpetrators keep their job, the institutions hire expensive barristers to shut up people, reports of misdemeanor are never shared with the public because the Board itself is full of people with vested interests and the complainant is left devastated, because essentially they can't pursue the matter publicly because of lack of funds & will power to challenge the institution. Cease & Desist letters, Defamation threats, NDAs all are used to protect the Board & the institutions. Laws are used to prevent justice being delivered, rather than for it to be served, especially, to the weak and the poor.

[@alisongreen7576]

Well…..unless there is enough evidence for a criminal investigation and prosecution, an educational institution has to investigate thoroughly to avoid being sued, and that takes time. The man who retired is off campus- without access to victims- that’s a big deal. The two who resigned will be looking for other jobs….and people will ask questions…..who resigns tenure at Dartmouth for a good reason? Nobody! So it’s maybe more effective than you think. Plus, other tenured professors will have heard about this, and maybe reined in their activities, and other colleges became more aware- maybe having a serious talk with staff who commonly socialise and drink to excess with students- and predatory behaviour is being stopped much earlier in its tracks.

[@capsulamental]

I don't know why it does not end up on criminal charges against these men.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

They get away with it partly because it is so astounding that people doubt you at first blush. They are protected by "what -- that cannot be true!" You "must be" struggling in the program and looking for excuses. And non-drinkers will be labeled "recovered alcoholics." It's quite a system.

[@sarahd5596]

After I filed a sexual harassment claim again my professor, David Whisnant at UNC-Chapel Hill, he was allowed to retire. This was in the 90s, and I wasn't at all surprised to subsequently learn that this was a pattern at the university. It was a shameful practice then to not hold these predators accountable and still is now.

[@cuddlecakes7153]

I've heard stuff like that still happens at UNC from my friend who used to go there. Like exchanging "favors" for grades

[@Starfish2145]

Disgusting

[@mathildesm954]

Gender-based violence is a plague upon all fields, but male-dominated fields make for extremely vulnerable situations. I applaud these women who bravely chose to shine light on this issue. May your path be light and may your next years bring more accomplishments than you can even envision! Shame on those who abuse their power to break the careers of young scientists.

[@18puppies91]

And situations like these make women even less likely to pursue male-dominated fields

[@daffidkane8350]

Abuse and assault is plain wrong. Women are also guilty of gender based violence. Maybe not rape but bullying and lying. The women in every workplace I have been have made it hell, especially for other women. Some women even set up their female colleagues for assault by men. Some women traded sex for grades or promotion or easy assignments. It does not help to exclusively paint women as the victims and men as villains. We need to see organizations as all potentially toxic and in need of reform and better oversight. Interesting I know many women who went to university in the 1920s and 30s and they said they were well treated by the men. It seems to have gotten worse since the sexual revolution.

[@AQGOAT24]

Neuroscience has more women than men as PhDs, altho tenured positions are dominated by males but a lot of that is due to age

[@sasachiminesh1204]

I do not drink alcohol. This was a career problem throughout master's work at school and then again working for corporate. Not drinking ostracizes you and can completely block you from advancing. It's ridiculous.

[@autismworldtravel]

I made significantly more money when I started drinking. I had children very young, and alcohol didn’t interest me then, so I didn’t drink alcohol until my mid thirties. It was a real eye opener for me and it’s sad.

[@ElenaShares]

I thought that Alcohol drinking culture was only a necessary part of business deals Russia... but never in the US and in college... shocking. Watching now in December 2024

[@TheSweetestCocoa]

I agree, I was sober for about 2 years and everytime I went out and refused a drink it was so bizarre how upset people were with me, especially the men. People would ask me are you sick? Are you pregnant? Are you an alcoholic? They would keep pressuring me to just have one. Just a shot. Non stop pressure to the point that I just stopped going out.

[@asmitaghorai7332]

Damn that's absolutely abominable.

[@sirenachantal471]

@@TheSweetestCocoaThe ones who protest the most are usually the ones with alcoholism. It’s actually saving you time because now you know what to expect from them.

[@nightowl6260]

This intimidating and coercive behavior towards women is rampant. As a waitress, I refused a date with a cook in thes restaurant and was threatened with a knife and had all my orders held up or done wrong. Customers were angry with me and did not tip.

[@thereisnosanctuary6184]

What race was he? Be specific.

[@ereristark425]

What a strange question ​@@thereisnosanctuary6184

[@josephbelisle5792]

Rape culture is everywhere. I'm sorry for what you went through.

[@leoniep9231]

@thereisnosanctuary You are being pointlessly racist regarding this question. Men of any nationality, culture, and ethnic background can be coercive and ab usive. You know this, stop pretending you don't.

[@kitefan1]

Were you in a position to bring management into it?

[@jackiez8946]

Thank you for titling the video properly. These are not just women but should be recognized as scientists. They make younger women feel proud to pursue science!

[@citizen565]

Zzzzzz.... 😂

[@nb6525]

No, all victims, regardless of gender and profession deserve justice. Being a scientist or janitor shouldn’t make any difference.

[@robinleler5239]

@@nb6525 I understand and I agree that all people deserve to be protected from coercion like this. The importance of naming the victims' work is that their careers were used against them and potentially derailed by the harassment. If several NBA players were targeted by their bosses we would identify them by their profession and not by their gender. Their PhDs are meaningful public identifiers. As you highlight, victims from any profession and perceived status should be protected.

[@notapoliticalscientist]

I was a phd student at Dartmouth around the same time & remember how hush hush faculty members from other departments were about this when the details first started coming out, which to me was quite counterintuitive. The three professors were first put on indefinite leave *with pay* & were only forced to leave/retire after there was backlash. These women were incredibly courageous.. it's really good to see them moving on - I honestly thought it would be the end of their careers given how toxic the academia world is in general.

[@womenfrom0202]

That final part of Dartmouth‘s statement, says it all, they should have gone to the police, have them prosecuted and judged by the court. Idiots…..

[@carlcushmanhybels8159]

@@womenfrom0202 And I read in their statement, shown at the end of this video, Dartmouth still does not acknowledge that they/ the academic department knew about these 3 predator professors for years and had done nothing. I.e., Dartmouth as an institution is still claiming to be 'innocent.'

[@bhaskarmukherjee4768]

Kudos to the scientists ! It takes immense courage to stand up against academic hierarchy.

[@animikhaghosh6536]

Hierarchy and SA

[@Dineshkumar-jf2hz]

They complained to the college administration and even before they named the professors, the staff knew, that particularly stinks! There is so much trust in these colleges when students enroll from all over the world. it is unacceptable they let this behavior knowingly go on bcos these 3 brought grants ...

[@blueprairiedog]

Money is everything in academia. The worst people succeed because they can write grants. And the system accepts it.

[@scriptorpaulina]

The same thing happened to me (twice) at George Washington. If I had had others to back me, I probably would have pushed harder 😢 but the trauma was so bad that my mind erased what happened as too painful

[@snowmonster42]

That's not really why they allowed the situation to continue. If it was as simple as the dean or the president of the university sitting in a room with a calculator, it would have been stopped. It's way more about societal beliefs about young women and successful men. And probably also about successful men and women who used to young. In fairness to the university, nobody really knew what was going on except for those 3 faculty - thus the importance of isolating victims. Obviously its best to have a culture where behavior like this is unthinkable, but the real test of any institution is how they respond when a scandal like this becomes public.

[@lisajohnson4744]

@@snowmonster42no, they knew. Remember that the women didn’t mention names, but staff immediately knew who they were talking about? They knew.

[@snowmonster42]

@@lisajohnson4744 As someone who has been in similar situations (though I hope not nearly as bad), they didn't *know*. They suspected, they worried, they were concerned by what they saw, but they didn't know. I will note again the importance to the perpetrator of isolating victims. If they are able to do that, then not even the victims know how bad things really are. That's ultimately how these people are able to get away with stuff like this for so long. Once you know, for most people it's easy. Telling what you know is relatively easy, telling what you are concerned about is very difficult. But to your point, anyone who really did know should be named as well. If there is anyone in this category they are what is called "an accesory."

[@alisongreen7576]

I think a huge part of the problem here is the “grants” system- scientists compete for money by “pitching” to funding committees- and anyone who is charismatic and willing to “big up” themselves and their plans is at a major advantage. Attracting money secures you tenure- so what we have is a system that actively funnels narcissists and psychopaths to the top.

[@HomeFromFarAway]

precisely. they types of people most likely to abuse their colleagues and students get prot3cted and promoted

[@DemonZest]

which makes them worse scientists in the end because science is a collaborative work.

[@trekon2023]

The Fed grant money should be able to be retracted if there is evidence of prof asking students to socialize outside of work or working outside 9-5. You can never prove all this touching stuff unless someone has a camera on all the time so just separate work and personal life. Students don't want to spend more time with prof, they need lives so they can marry people their own age. There's also the prob of students being treated as slave labor. They're paid minimum and worked long hours in the lab frequently there by themselves.

[@user-xn2hf9re8r]

I was a victim at a Stirling Uni by a male supervisor and although the uni said they would help they all bowed to him and made it so difficult I had to leave. It destroyed my life and I resent how they manipulated me to keep the peace. Bullying and sexual assault is prevalent in these places and individuals hold so much power no one dare be on your side openly.

[@Lisa-qt4hh]

"Dartmouth had no prior knowledge of misconduct" 14:36 while the chairs of the department knew immediately which professors they were talking about without the women mentioning their names... Thank you so much for speaking up and inspiring others. It is horrible how commonplace this is. We see with cases like this and Gisèle Pelicot's that many men within a certain environment are complicit in this type of behaviour.

[@aristoclesathenaioi4939]

I graduated from Dartmouth as an undergraduate in 1974 and the heavy drinking culture was always present. There was almost nothing as a graduate program at Dartmouth at the time. I admire and support these women who took legal action against the College. I am ashamed that the College where I was an undergraduate was called to task for allowing this behavior. These women showed great courage.

[@mandogrogurescuedogs]

Also please report this to the police. These men are gonna try to get similar jobs in the future and they’re gonna start these grooming behaviors over again unless they experience some serious consequences.

[@alisongreen7576]

Yes….but having resigned from a tenured position at somewhere as prestigious as Dartmouth may well make them unemployable in the US, Canada and Western Europe. I suppose they might get a job in the Far East, Middle East, or India, but that might happen even if fired. Plus, certainly in the Middle East, their students would all be male.

[@Tatertot270]

Unfortunately a lot of the time, the police don’t do anything about it 😞 maybe depends on the place or country.

[@barbaramcsloy8476]

Why didn't they go to jail? That was abuse.

[@HomeFromFarAway]

A trial should be absolutely mandatory. protecting these predators are other predators

[@ElenaShares]

Exactly, why nobody is in jail? Is it too late? Then, where is American Massad? There should be one. Anonymous Massad that protects unprotected. Fantasy of course, but good to have something to dream about, gives me peace of mind.

[@KingoftheJuice18]

Have you seen the legal system in this country for the well-connected and financially well-off? Look at how Trump gamed the system.

[@trekon2023]

I can't believe the university was allowed to investigate itself! 😂. Should be mandatory external investigation.

[@kidmohair8151]

the courage it took these women to expose the academic patriarchy is monumental. however, much of the progress that women have made over the last decades is, once again, under threat from incoming federal and state administrations that continue to belittle women, and actively work to suppress and drag back those gains.

[@jeffkirchhoff3593]

It is the outgoing administration that is/was tearing down advances women have made in the last 50 years of Title IX, particularly in sports.

[@kidmohair8151]

@@jeffkirchhoff3593 do please explain your reasoning.

[@woowoo2358]

Seriously, they put their future and career on the line. I’m so proud of them

[@hannahpemarose6474]

Fellow scientist (and woman) and recent PhD graduate here. I applaud these women!!! These men are TRASH! Women belong in STEM and academia and we must stick together and support each other so this toxic academia culture ceases to exist.

[@fabrisseterbrugghe8567]

When my teachers were talking to me about applying to an Ivy League school in 1979, I was warned not to apply to Dartmouth because the harassment and drinking culture was part of the school's reputation.

[@zahzahzee]

wow!

[@skyhawk7315]

"We had to put our lives at stake for the impact we wanted to make" Nothing but mad respect for these brave women and dedicated scientists ❤️✊

[@lcz4033]

They should be in jail and without economic benefits. Sexual predators are a constant threat in all areas, unfortunately. I congratulate you, brave women, for your teamwork, your determination and your decision to change things not only for you as women but scientists, but for all women and girls. The struggle continues.... Solidarity and best wishes from Ecuador

[@Deathhikeauntie]

Title should be the “rape scandal.” You wouldn’t call murders a hostile work environment.

[@nathanponzar3816]

This is such bullshit. These professors should be fired. You all are courageous women.

[@sarahdel9206]

So much respect for these women for speaking out

[@nightowl6260]

There should be a lawsuit for this sexual predatory behavior. Good the school fired the criminals. BUT, why isn't this in the legal system? It will continue as long as there is no real accountability. This was premeditated and organized crime.

[@claudialamberts398]

I’m so glad they spoke out about it, must’ve been hard.

[@Silversubs29078]

I'm so happy to see a happy ending and all the women are doing amazing.

[@kamixae263]

this made me so sad and scared me as a woman who dream to be a scientist and wants to pursue higher education. when will we get a break ?

[@mujkocka]

There are always pioneers needed. Women couldn’t vote, could own properties until after some of our fire moms struggled and fought for us. So think of who will benefit and please fight.😊

[@paulkramer4176]

It is VERY VERY hard for a faculty member to sue these colleges, much more difficult for a student, and a woman to sue them. This needs to change. Faculty can't be allowed to retire to escape culpability, and the same goes for Police persons.

[@StcyBRD]

I was in a bachelor's program in CA for business and the drinking culture made me switch majors. Everyone went to the bar to drink and do their projects. As I progressed through the program, I wasalmost done with my junior year, drinking became more part of the program. It's how you made friends and how you worked with others. Because I didn't want to, my parts of the project didn't get done in a way that fit in with everyone else's, didn't seem cohesive, and no one wanted to get together at school to complete the projects. The people going for drinks became friends, they'd go to office hours together, they'd develop a relationship with the professor, I felt left behind, I was less known. It was a wake up call, I was not cut out for such a social work place. I switched to nutrition major and become a dietitian.

[@XxXenosxX]

I’m glad they spoke out, you all are and will always be yourselves and not defined by what has been done to you

[@StAmander]

I felt incredibly sad when I heard about how speaking out as an Indian women has inspired other Indian women to be courageous to speak out as well. I’ve noticed a push towards conservative values in the gen Z as compared to other generations such as my own (Millennial generation) and this pressure towards keeping women silent and empowering men to be dominant to the point of feeling empowered to make decisions for women within their communities without any real discussion with women about the impact of those decisions on women. So many want to bring up “false rape allegations” but refuse to look at the pressure women face to recant allegations, to never accuse and the fact that even when an investigation has proven without a doubt that it happen, no real consequences take place, and like police officers they can move and apply elsewhere only to keep repeating this violence. It’s a failure on men, not women to keep pressuring women to never come forward while pretending that men are the greatest protectors of women and that’s why they need to subjugate women. But it’s also the failure of men to say that women should be treated like equals but a women’s concern is never treated equal to a man’s concern, despite research showing that a woman is valid in her concerns. Also, im particularly talking about American culture and how it’s nots too far off in terms of mistreatment as well.

[@lbr88x30]

This was great. Would like to know how many female scientists left their studies, what estimates there are of this program nationally, if women studying the hard sciences experience this type of behavior in undergraduate and high school settings.

[@chumark54]

Thank you for the video, it's very crucial. Admire their courage.

[@thesquatchdoctor3356]

Not just at colleges, my high school English teacher kept asking any pretty girl who took his senior level class to go to the beach with him to drink whiskey as soon as they turned 18. Everybody knew about it, the administration definitely knew about it, but he didn't get fired until the parents started making a scene at every single board meeting 3 years after I left. Even then the principal called it a "witch hunt". There must be structures like Title IX in place to FORCE action against predatory men and women, otherwise administrators care more about not rocking their own boat. Disgusting is the correct word here.

[@dkg_gdk]

Society is not going to change if we as women don't force that change ourselves.

[@PhinClio]

I'm reaching the end of a career as a historian. One of my biggest disappointments with academia has been its inability / unwillingness to end the kind of abuses that this video discusses. As a grad student in the 1980s and '90s, I was well aware that there were (overwhelmingly, but not only) male professors who engaged in various forms of SA toward their (largely, but not only) female students. But I honestly believed that universities were finally coming to terms with this problem and that it would soon be behind us. But it has very much continued over the last three decades. And, what's worse, there are now forces outside the academy trying to make it harder for institutions to keep students and other vulnerable members of the academic community safe. When you see politicians and others denouncing DEI and "woke," they are, among other things, running interference for the kind of rape culture that the brave young scientists in this video fought against.

[@alisongreen7576]

When will men (and yes, it can be women too) in positions of power realise that people way below them in the hierarchy, who may be legally, physically and chronologically adults, are owed a duty of care and that with your power comes responsibility? You are “in loco parentis” as a teacher, no matter the age of the student, and just as if you were a parent and they your children, all sexual behaviour- even talk- is off limits. Also, exactly like a parent, you should not be out of control yourself around your kids/students- so that means not drinking with them or even socialising with them- outside of formal institutional events like an “Annual Dinner” type thing, and then confine your drinking to a bare minimum.

[@tanya-dimitrova]

Thank you for coming forward with this story!!

[@Sawatzel]

I am really thankful for these women to come out and tell their stories. Now I won't apply to Dartmouth

[@kathrynturnbull990]

Wherever you apply, ask to talk to current graduate students. Ask pointed questions about what it is like to work and study in their program, and with their specific advisor. Think about whether this is a match for how you would like to work over the next 4+ years. Good luck.

[@Sawatzel]

@@kathrynturnbull990 ty that really helps me a lot right now

[@naomid.3906]

Important to shed light that this happens in academia and science, good job scientific American!

[@publicalways]

Proud of the girls for standing up for themselves and exposing those sexual abusers

[@gok46]

So the rapists don't go to prison? Retirement is a way to commit crimes without consequences??? Is that the lesson??

[@scientistatwork4667]

This is a widespread problem. I experienced it as a grad student where younger male professors married with kids) would show up at social events and drink too much. One in particular would target certain female grad students and try to pick them up when his wife was away. Unfortunately, this guy was my mentor and I ended up requesting a new mentor because of this. An older professor would ask me to type up his papers. While I was seated at a computer, he stood behind me and leaned over the chair. I felt his erection in my back and it was horrifying. To my knowledge, none of us filed complaints because we felt powerless. The department faculty were all male and many of the students were international. This was in the 90's. It was all about power and control. There has to be independent oversight and accountability, at public and private institutions.

[@Thatonepersonyouheard]

They are so brave to go on Camera and show their abusers too. God Bless Scientific American for covering this abuse of women

[@sasachiminesh1204]

Lawsuits often turn out differently when the plaintiffs are not rich and privileged, but at least they won this time. It's ironic that a person who was abused by using their class marginality against them would end up being part of the wave of gentrification that is forcing Black folks out of their homes in Harlem! She has deeply marginalized neighbors that can't access the justice system that served her case.

[@nicksamek12]

This video makes me proud to be a SciAm subscriber. Thank you for your journalism.

[@pippadrew2074]

Great video. I agree change requires collective effort. I got my masters at Dartmouth in 1993 and have lived one town north ever since. Dartmouth College grew out of our early American patriarchal culture and has built vast corporate wealth from that power. Lately there's been a hazing scandal at a fraternity and the victim has been outspoken and visible. He is brave. In a Women's Studies class I took at Dartmouth some students shared their experiences of physical assault/rape attending fraternity parties here and at other schools. Alcohol was definitely a catalyst in those situations. It was devastating to know their pain and humiliation but important for healing. I always wonder why the school hasn't abolished fraternities after so many incidents over generations. My guess is that some wealthy alumni would withhold financial gifts. It's always about power and wealth and it's a long game.

[@zmarilu5016]

These women are so brave, I am so sorry you had to go through this and I am so glad you found each other. That they could support each other and win some measure of justice

[@bfrost7]

this is crazy. in my field, there are no closed-door meetings with someone you oversee/mentor, our ethical code makes it very clear how to and when to give praise or criticism. It's called a dual relationship and blurring the line is a big no, you can lose your certification/licensing. it's crazy that this type of behavior is going on colleges, is there no code of conduct for professors, seems like that's the first thing you would enshrine when forming one and you default to so 1- the school isn't at fault and 2- there is no grey area, everyone knows the rules before hand and it can be referred to at any time.

[@donjuanpond1]

what a terrifying scenario, to be at that point in your career in a profession reliant so heavily on reputation and connections. I'm glad these women were able to sue, but I'm not happy with Dartmouth's stated response here. 1.5m donation to some nonprofit is meaningless when the problem is their culture and faculty.

[@LusyPicker-sm6su]

I am so happy to see the amount of support for these scientists/young women. There are so many videos that should be garnering this kind of commentary that end up with the most terrible xomments dominating the discourse. I work at one of the countries top tier universities. I sont want to make this spund like im saying "my university is better than yours" so please read my comment all the way through before passing jusgement on what I have to say. Throught the film and even in aome of the most supportive comments, the phrase/sentiment "this is how it has always been" keeps popping up. I just wanted to say that this not a universal truth. The university i work at has very strict ethics rules pertaining to professor/student relations. Especially with respect to undergraduates. With that said, I dont need to delve into the history of my own achool to know that these rukes did not come from the aether. Things happened that neccessitated their creation. Frankly, there was an incedent involving the Dean of our Law School and a party thrown at the house the school furnishes to the Dean, for the graduating class that was a blatant violation of the ethics rules. The irony that the Dean of the Law School was basically breaking School Laws is not lost on anyone and the fact the the Dean made it so much worse when on a televised interview they said, "Every idy knew about this party despite the rules against it. I throw it every year." Yeah, i know. Here's what im trying to say. There are plenty of schools where this is not the norm. Where there are protections for every student to study and learn and work and feel safe doing it. Maybe someone out there will say the one you find is not as prestigious. As we have just learned, prestige can create a space for things worse than less glitter on a resume. You get out if college what you put into it, no matter how fancy the school. If you're a Harvard graduate whose only really accrued knowledge is how to drain a keg and not die, you're just as unemployable as a 3rd grade dropout. If you feel safer at small school where you put in wverything you had and got wverything you wanted out of it, enjoy your degree and your career. You earned it and im sure your going to love it. This last bit is what I think is how we can affect real change that can spread through evey campus and into the worling world in every industry. When you are shopping for schools, visiting campuses; ask questions. The really hard ones. What are the school's policies protecting students from exual assault? How effective are these policies? How does the school deal with cases of assault of any kind? When was the last time there was a failure of the schools policies and what happened afterwards? And anything else you can think of. Yes, you will make some people feel very awkward. Better them than you. If you are there with a parent who becomes embarrassed by your line of questioning, ask them "Who is going to college here? You might not care about my wellfare but I do." Lastly, when the story about the party at the Dean's house came out, it got national attention. Guess what? We suffered for it. Reputations fell. Students protested us. Donations fell. The law school saw a decline in applications. Then, changes were made. Policies were reviewed and changes were made there too. Violations saw actual consequences. It sucked for a little while. Then things got better. I think we're a better school and community for it. A lot of times, people and institutions trade in their reputations. It is amazing how much crap the line "Do you know who i am?" has covered up and enabled. I have seen some of the most unlikely people say, "I dont give a sh!t" and brought powerful people and institutions to their knees. Thats wxactly what happened at the Dean's house. Personally, I loved watching her so it too. She should be proudnthat her last act as a student from a poor country was to take on one of the most powerful lawyers in the country and break that frosty b!tch. Last I heard the university did not award her the degree ahe earned. Last i heard it didn't matter at all. She was hired by a great firm, oassed the bar and I hope she's killing it.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

Why so many spelling errors that this is impossible to get through? Clean it up, I want to read it.

[@absolutezippo7542]

Don’t mind the spelling errors. I understood everything, and I do think that it is very powerful to tell young women-or students in general-that when you’re in certain places, asking questions and caring about your welfare matters the most. I also think, though, that perhaps if you’re from a developing country, especially from India where the environment is very hostile against women-do you know that they only recently proposed outlawing marital rape, and even then there was lots of backlash about that?-I think that if you come from a place like that and make it to, say, America, you have made a lot of effort and shown a lot of stubbornness. It’s like, I cannot imagine anyone who’s not stubborn working their way up from that kind of position, especially in a field that is very male-dominated. So perhaps that’s why, but I don’t know. Yeah, I saw her. I love that she has this attitude of: *I did everything right, and I will continue to do the right thing regardless of what happened to me.* Even the fact that she was worried about not being a scientist or not being seen as a scientist-I found that she had very strong values. That is something you can really look up to, especially in your time of turmoil when things don’t seem to go well. You can look up to them and say, *Well, someone stuck with their own values even when everything was going against them.* So yeah, just saying I agree, basically.

[@absolutezippo7542]

How do you know that people don’t generally consider safety rates? I’m just really curious. What do campuses do to actively hide their data?

[@kathleendonahue5955]

Thank you ladies for suing this institution!!!!!

[@stephss]

The powers are shifting. The patriarchy can't get away from the harm it has been causing. Everyone deserves opportunity, and to be empowered. We need eachother.

[@woowoo2358]

So proud of the women for speaking up on this topic

[@adityakhanna113]

13:35 a Keffiyeh! Vassiki indeed is the best

[@E.S.Foster99]

North Carolina State University has/had a problem Science Professor that has/had been sexually harassing female undergraduates for decades. The last I heard in 2010, a femaie student complained and was advised to leave the school. She was very close to graduation and the episode threw a huge wrench into her timetable. She had to finish her degree 'off campus.' A friend of mine was giving counsel to this young woman because she didn't have a family to support her (i.e., perfect grooming target), and never revealed to me her name or the name of the professor or I'd include his name herein

[@Mnil52]

My organic chemistry professor had a house right next to campus, invited the undergrad girls over all the time. I don't know exactly what happened there but he had an impressive expensive wine collection. I knew several of the girls well and you know how they felt about him? They loved him and the attention. He was the most popular professor at the school. Small university in Minneapolis. True story

[@minxxd]

@@Mnil52doesn’t make it right wether they liked the attention or not

[@susanne5803]

I'm thinking of that courageous lady in France. Let's not forget this is not all men. This type of predatory entitled toxic masculinity harms all genders and all sexes. I'm very grateful that you turn the shame of these men out in the open to be fully condemned and pursued by law. Wishing you the very best!

[@chrysanthi_]

I'm really proud to see their lives get better. Yes it's a very big step to sue, but for me the fact that they didn't allow it to define them for the rest of their lives and continue to grow as people and scientists is even bigger

[@hifinsword]

I admire the bravery of you women. The results of your reaction to the sexual harassment you all experienced has been a positive result in the educational system. Thank you!

[@stephenshadenough]

They deserve the utmost respect for standing up to these predators and the institution that protects them. The "no prior knowledge" response from Dartmouth is frankly disgusting.

[@supriya55]

happy with the way this story featured these young woman as warriors and 3D humans.. its about them and their courage, bravo!

[@lisajohnson4744]

“Dartmouth had no prior knowledge of misconduct….”??? Yet when the women went to them about the situation and *didn’t mention names* (!!) they immediately knew who was being talked about. Dartmouth knew and chose not to act until they were forced.

[@jeanecross]

I think this is good not to filter or hide this kind of issues, just for all to spread awareness of our men to be aware about men's intention or thinking about women regarding what they are up to in situations.

[@womenfrom0202]

That final part of Dartmouth‘s statement, says it all, they should have gone to the police, have them prosecuted and judged by the court. Idiots…..

[@Dineshkumar-jf2hz]

Happy to see some positive ending here

[@sumnergrey4301]

When you're wondering who to vote for, look at who supports, and who wants to abolish, Title IX.

[@JJ-fr2ki]

Glad you made this Sci-Am. I’ve seen this pattern often by psychologists at several top universities and believe it is less common among neuroscientists. Since neuroscience is a young field, many older faculty are psychology PhDs who use MRI machines, and birthed “cognitive neuroscience,” a well branded portmanteau of Cognitive Science (psychology + computer science ) and neuroscience.

[@MossCoveredBonez]

Academia teaches us to question everything except authority. Glad thet came forward

[@LesCish]

Obviously highly intelligent ambitious women who couldn't discern in real time the abuse and harassment they were subjected to. As a man I cannot imagine that mindset. Interestingly at least two cultures (Indian and American) did not offer resilience to that mindset. Glad these women got through their ordeal and shed light on the situation.

[@zacharynguyen7286]

Hope everyone doing good and staying safe. If you need to talk to someone or need help, there are people who care. Sending support and hearts. ❤️❤️❤️

[@rajneeshmishra900]

It is really disheartening how toxic the world of academia is in general and it is a global phenomenon. I mean these scientists had to struggle so much for a serious offense like this but in general too we suffer so much because of hierarchy. Instead of mentor-mentee things become like master-slave.

[@gregaiken1725]

so what if they retire or quit? that has no bearing on a criminal prosecution.

[@martinr2040]

Throwing money at the problem wont change anything!

[@JKH-m4y]

Thank you for reporting on this

[@JadeVuong-vo4uj]

glad their stories are told and theyre able to get back on track with their life and not become blackballed and moved on successfully. so it shows how any type of women any type of profession it exists even in cerebral neuroscience. there is sexism and misogyny and rape culture even at professional levels. Theyre still dudes!

[@zb2363]

Where are the police in this?! These men should be in jail.

[@mintrelsmith]

😢 Really sad to know that these things are around there in sciences and that too in an Ivy league college.I thought this is more of an Asian culture alone. It all about power and money. He who wields the power can escape easily whether its Asia or Europe or America.

[@prieten49]

Well, finally a story of sexual harassment that ends with some justice being served.

[@roabba8994]

Were there criminal charges? If these horrible things happened, why not?

[@twontree]

these men looks so fucking creepy too

[@lyndagabriel6539]

This is the height of bravery, to stand up for yourselves at the beginning of promising careers. So proud of you all.

[@jonahansen]

Before continuing to watch the video, let me state up front that I can't imagine that a "sexual harassment scandal" of any sort that could "shake science to its core". Sort of by definition - science is independent of that. I mean, what if science were being done by asexual entities? ******* Ok - I have now watched the video. This is a video about improper social interactions, and the politics of career advancement in fields of science. I didn't see anything demonstrating how the "core of science" is endangered. Any of these women who were sincerely dedicated to the pursuit of science and excelled in that endeavor would be able to transcend the politics and make a name for themselves. You are operating under suspicious assumptions if you think you have to interact socially to "make it" in science. ----------- Coming from someone who quit the system because of the politics AFTER a post-doc position in Neuroscience.

[@kategnidenko4651]

They should have been not just fired. Rape is a serious crime. They should be in prison. They deeds are so disgusting. And it happens in many colleges, fields and countries as far as I understand.

[@darklinaendgame]

Science For The People represent!!!!!

[@asadullah23200]

Huge respect for these women, nobody should feel abused in their workplace like this, especially in such a high stress workplace (research labs are very stressful work)

[@emilyannamanda]

It’s crazy to me that MrBeast videos get millions of views, but people aren’t worried about what’s going on in real life Thank you for this video because I will be going back to school and I’ve always done community college but community college has its own set of boomer creepers that can creep on you or millennial liars

[@t.s.d.1376]

People don't watch me.veast for news value. It's entertainment. Plus beyond a point nobody cares.

[@ytsenguciedu]

Why aren't they prosecuted?

[@LittleRedMoon16]

Well, I kinda feel a bit better now knowing I didnt get accepted into Dartmouth :3

[@evelina733]

Thank you for your fight, brave women🙏

[@λιμινιλ]

How is this possible!

[@martic5951]

I always remember saying NO. ❤

[@invancouver691]

This is devastating 😞

[@WhiteEagle-369]

This is disgraceful, disgusting and sad 😞

[@phyllis5332]

I hope the professor who retired lost his emeritus status.

[@ElenaShares]

It is appalling for 2017 America

[@faebalina7786]

So sad and trust me this happens all over the world.

[@jeremiasrobinson]

What if you don't drink at Dartmouth? You just don't graduate?

[@GB-TX]

This is everything.

[@bluerose465]

This is terrifying