The Sea of Galilee is NOT a Sea?

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@matthewholloway8703 5 ай бұрын

Is this a real objection people use? Do they not understand that languages, cultures and definitions shift and change over time.

@InspiringPhilosophy 5 ай бұрын

@FollowersofTheShepherd 5 ай бұрын

Reminds me of the argument that since the Bible calls bats, birds, it must be false. Like... or maybe, just maybe, the Bible wasn't originally written in English 😭

@OnTheThirdDay 5 ай бұрын

Wait until you hear the objection that Jesus didn't exist because the letter J didn't exist at that time!!!

@maillemacanaugh1841 5 ай бұрын

I sort of think it’s just disingenuous sophistry.

@langelihlembatha2150 5 ай бұрын

@@OnTheThirdDay That one drives me nuts

@unoriginalclips9923 5 ай бұрын

Sounds like an objection Richard Dawkins would unironically make

@onetowardslove 5 ай бұрын

The UK needs to formally apologize for producing one of the most insufferable people to ever exist in richard dawkins lmao

@input-latency2684 5 ай бұрын

@@onetowardsloveyeah, but the USA also produced Neil deGrasse Tyson, so we’re also guilty there

@Merkedupon223 5 ай бұрын

@@input-latency2684this is a fact 💀

@Michael-bk5nz 5 ай бұрын

Similar to people who complain that Chicago is called the “Windy City” despite the fact that it not even the windiest city in the United States let alone the entire world as the nickname implies

@TCL2006 5 ай бұрын

@@input-latency2684Neil has charm tho at least, where Dawkins doesn’t at all. That’s why his first name is dick.

@innocentsmith6091 5 ай бұрын

"Carl Sagan refered to Pluto as a planet, therefor Cosmos is in scientific error."

@kathyd456 5 ай бұрын

Well played.

@mysotiras21 5 ай бұрын

Great point!

@Timo0469 5 ай бұрын

👍

@BornAgainBrother 5 ай бұрын

Sounds like whoever made this objection was intellectually dishonest

@Saint_nobody 5 ай бұрын

As often is the case with antichristian critics.

@BornAgainBrother 5 ай бұрын

@@Saint_nobody 💯

@innocentsmith6091 5 ай бұрын

There is a tiny germ of a legitimate argument: if the Bible is the inspired word of God, why would it use the wrong word to describe something? It is amusing though, to see Atheists, who claim to believe in FACTS, and LOGIC, and SCIENCE, insist that there's an objectively correct term for and an objectively correct definition of a geological feature.

@BornAgainBrother 5 ай бұрын

@@innocentsmith6091 yeah, atheists don’t believe in objectivity, just ask them why murder is wrong and it all falls apart

@acem82 5 ай бұрын

@@innocentsmith6091 Assuming that the current use of a word is the "correct" one is the worst cases of Chronological snobbery I've ever heard!

@kymmoore853 5 ай бұрын

That’s not even an argument, it’s like people today calling Koala’s ‘Koala bears’ when they’re not bears.

@scottybreuer 5 ай бұрын

Next you'll tell me that catfish aren't cats!

@mysotiras21 5 ай бұрын

Exactly.

@alexanderstauber 5 ай бұрын

I am german and we call a lake "See" and sea "See". Same word. Sometimes we even call big lakes "Meer" which is the most used word for sea.

@Sousabird 5 ай бұрын

One of the only things I remember from High School German was that Guinea Pigs were called Meerschweinchen which means something like "little sea pig".

@kathyd456 5 ай бұрын

@@Sousabird that's sounds like a good word to use when ticked off. I may try that out for a while. 😄

@fortherepublic6475 5 ай бұрын

@@alexanderstauber A difference to point out. Lake "See" has a masculine article and sea "See" is feminine

@mysotiras21 5 ай бұрын

Yep. This sort of imprecision is common even in modern languages.

@Hambone3773 5 ай бұрын

This is such a simplistic issue one wonders why skeptics would latch onto it.

@clawso9014 5 ай бұрын

Probably because they think it is an easy win, because everything of important is far harder to attack. And as we can see(hehe), it is not even a win for them.

@esdrasImayInotguy3481 5 ай бұрын

Probably because of the whole "one error invalidates the entire bible" thing

@Michael-bk5nz 5 ай бұрын

@@esdrasImayInotguy3481 which is ammunition given to skeptics by the fundamentalists, that claim “if you can prove one error in the Bible then you disprove Christianity” is actually a kind of slogan that the first generation of fundamentalists provided for their peculiar belief about inerrancy

@lewisguapo 4 ай бұрын

Latch onto anything except God... 🤣

@OnTheThirdDay 5 ай бұрын

Dead Sea, Caspian Sea, ... It is just how people refer to it.

@Saint_nobody 5 ай бұрын

I seeeeeeea. 😅

@chadsmith8966 5 ай бұрын

Claiming the disciples were in error for referring the Sea of Galilee as a sea instead of a lake sounds like an argument of semantics. And a weak argument at that.

@kevinkelly2162 5 ай бұрын

Not watched the video but I think the objection has to do with the gospel claims that there was a storm in this lake that threatend to capsize the boat, not that the gospels said the lake was a sea. Are storms of such severity common on this lake?

@chadsmith8966 5 ай бұрын

@@kevinkelly2162 yeah, that was also discussed in the video as well. The argument stems from people doubting a storm described by the gospels at the Sea of Galilee because it is a "lake". IP does a better job explaining, I do recommend watching the video.

@kevinkelly2162 5 ай бұрын

@@chadsmith8966 So there are instances of boats capsizing on this lake because of storms?

@justinpartogi 5 ай бұрын

@@kevinkelly2162 brother, Read the news, big storms often occur in the Sea of Galilee, even causing damage that causes huge expenditures of money, do you have internet?

@stevenalexander6713 5 ай бұрын

Even in a contemporary colloquial context, we frequently refer to the Atlantic Ocean as "the pond." Whenever someone says something happened "across the pond," we know exactly what that means.

@scottybreuer 5 ай бұрын

Na, this just proves England doesn't exist.

@ryankohnenkamp8946 5 ай бұрын

Isn't that the same as when Aaron Ra said that the Bible is wrong for putting bats in the list of forbidden birds to eat?

@Navii-05 5 ай бұрын

Where did he say that?

@Theos_thinker 5 ай бұрын

Yes, now that you mention it, I do recall him saying that. I think he said it during either 1.) A long video about scientific errors in the Bible or 2.) brought it up during a debate. I think it was the first one, but I don’t quite remember.

@mysotiras21 5 ай бұрын

Yes. The Hebrew word "oph" does not mean "bird", merely "flying creature". An hours' worth of honest research would have shown Aaron Ra his error.

@byrondickens 5 ай бұрын

Aaron Ra thinks that Jesus contradicts himself because in one place he says that he's a plank of wood with hinges attached to him and in another he says he has bunches of grapes hanging off of him. Aaron Ra thinks that if I say that my wife is the sunshine of my life, that means she is the photons being emitted from a gigantic hydrogen fusion reactor in outer space.

@byrondickens 5 ай бұрын

@@mysotiras21 "Honest" and "Aaron Ra" don't belong together in the same sentence.

@JpBoudreaux 5 ай бұрын

This reminds me of when I was in college and decided to minor in religious studies (thinking I'd get a discount seminary lol) and I took a class on the Philosophy of religion. It was supposed to be about different religions and their philosophies, but the atheist professor spent the whole semester countering Christianity. We spent almost a month on "inerrancy" with his premise being if the bible contains any kind of error, then it is false, and so is Christianity. At one point, he argued that the bible contained mentions of witches and warlocks, and we know there is no such thing as witches and warlocks, so therefore, it is an error and thus false. I was like "we can go to Jackson Square in New Orleans right now and I can find you a witch, what do you mean" lol

@calebandrews490 5 ай бұрын

I'm sorry to hear that! It's unsettling (though not surprising) to hear a professor resort to such an obvious example of question begging.

@byrondickens 5 ай бұрын

Straight to the administration and give me my damn tuition back!

@JpBoudreaux 5 ай бұрын

@@byrondickens haha, I asked him about why the class was structured differently than the catalogue said and he told me the professor can teach class however they choose. Also for the final paper I wrote mine on hour perceived errors and contradictions in the bible are often due to a lack of proper hermeneutics and brought up specific examples he mention in class....he gave me a D on the paper lol.

@SyphrCoates-hd2vh 3 ай бұрын

“Yo I just saw a koala bear the other day at the zoo” “A KOALA BEAR? YOU KNOW KOALAS ARENT BEARS! YOU MUST BE LYING!”

@thejigisup326 5 ай бұрын

Porphyry: "AkSheEwAlLy..." Dude looks like he might even be wearing the precursor to the fedora. Most of that beard looks to be sprouting from his neck, too.

@pragmaticoptimist46 5 ай бұрын

My dad called me his kid once. I checked county adoption records because I was sure I was his son. Obviously a conspiracy and my whole family is in on it.

@Human-hs8sp 5 ай бұрын

get this! some think you'd be his child like really? you're obviously his boy!

@scottybreuer 5 ай бұрын

I'm certain you are not a young goat. They don't know how to open KZbin. This proves your father is unreliable.

@christopherj9744 5 ай бұрын

😂

@ישוע-מלך-היהודים 5 ай бұрын

♥Been living next to the Sea of Galilee my entire life. ♥ Nice video, such a quick and simple refute of this nonsense matter. I've been reading the Bible for 20 years, and never did I stop to think, "why are they calling it 'a sea'? ". Don't forget about the "Dead Sea" or in Hebrew "Sea of Salt". It is also a lake, because it is not connected to the ocean.

@garybuck6535 4 ай бұрын

חחח מה נשמע?

@NAT-di9xw 5 ай бұрын

My KZbin senses were tingling and sure enough inspiringphilosophy posted a video. 😅😅

@wadp5962 5 ай бұрын

This is a new one on me. I’ve never heard of this before. I live on the Great Lakes. We often refer to them as being “inland seas” despite the fact that they are fresh water. So it’s no big deal to me that the body of water referred to in the gospels is called a sea rather than a lake. And whoever thinks that a bad storm can’t occur on a small lake obviously lives an insulated life. They probably think a pool is a large body of water. In a bad storm on a small lake can be just as dangerous as on a big one or the ocean.

@douglascolquhoun8502 5 ай бұрын

It's like they never heard of the Edmund Fitzgerald.

@nathanbrown3497 5 ай бұрын

Porphyry is gonna be so upset when he sees this 😂

@espenhals8731 5 ай бұрын

2:27 ... I sea what you did there!

@MrWhocares51 5 ай бұрын

I’ve never seen or heard this “contradiction”

@FollowersofTheShepherd 5 ай бұрын

You're lucky then

@kyleebrahim8061 5 ай бұрын

It's a matter of geography, if you knew the geography and the Biblical label for these landmarks it would cause you to question it first.

@ikengaspirit3063 5 ай бұрын

I have, it's ridiculous.

@VVeremoose 5 ай бұрын

I'm a simple man. I see a new IP video, I watch and like

@InspiringPhilosophy 5 ай бұрын

Thank you

@VVeremoose 5 ай бұрын

@@InspiringPhilosophy no, thank you man. Seriously. I think you are becoming perhaps the most important public apologist. At least among them.

@davidarvingumazon5024 5 ай бұрын

@@InspiringPhilosophy My comments were erased by only mentioning your channel's full name. Unfortunately, I couldn't reference your videos to other people. 😢

@hansdykstra3869 5 ай бұрын

It’s like the well known Band of Brothers “error.” A replacement soldiers fixes his bayonet of his rifle and a seasoned soldier says “won’t shoot straight with that on.” Many people object and say this is an error as no evidence shows the standard rifle (the m1 garand) shot any worse with the bayonet. But the show is not in error as superstitions about equipment were common among soldiers so it is likely that soldier could have said something like this.

@CRoadwarrior 5 ай бұрын

Nice one. Skeptics tend to make up facile arguments that don't hold up under closer examination.

@Makaneek5060 5 ай бұрын

My favorite name for the Caspian Sea is Vourukasha, because that's the one used in Genshin Impact.

@DeAngeloJohnson-ee9bt 5 ай бұрын

Who uses this argument 💀

@FollowersofTheShepherd 5 ай бұрын

You'd be surprised

@Saint_nobody 5 ай бұрын

Lazy people

@carsonianthegreat4672 5 ай бұрын

Redditors

@jomidiam 5 ай бұрын

Two types of people: people who are on a mission to eradicate Christianity and will use any and every argument to do so, regardless of its strength or validity, and people who are just not very bright.

@ţťþtţtt 5 ай бұрын

porphyry of tyre

@rockzalt 5 ай бұрын

It resembles how science today deals with the issue of claiming Pluto should not be referred to as a planet but instead be labelled and called as a dwarf planet.

@william3347 5 ай бұрын

A lake requiring 2 hours to cross isn't so tiny. The most accurate would be to name it as the people of that time and place named it - regardless of saltiness. Seems like a very weak argument against the Gospels.

@albertchurchill4845 5 ай бұрын

Anyone who lives in the Great Lakes Region of North America calls their particular lake, a lake. But it's fun to watch visitors see it for the first time and hear them say, "That's a lake?"

@matheusdardenne 5 ай бұрын

"Jesus rose from the dead? Who cares, his disciples called that lake a sea" has to be the dumbest objection skeptics came up with so far.

@paolobagatella8556 5 ай бұрын

I wrote this same comment months ago, under a video by Testify about the same topic. In Italian we have different words to describe a river, and the most prominent are Fiume and Torrente. Fiume is something like the Nile or the Mississippi, therefore something big, while Torrente is the average river flowing through a small town. In my hometown we have a Torrente, but everyone calls it Fiume, even in official documents. Are these skeptics coming to my hometown to make a fuss of this, too?

@kathyd456 5 ай бұрын

Well, you never know. I mean butting into other's business and making a fuss over something they are POSITIVE is worth making a fuss over is almost like an Olympic event or rite of passage or something for some folks. Keep us posted if any do. 😄

@bigideasthescholar 5 ай бұрын

Thank you for the work that you do!

@lordlittletoeq8537 5 ай бұрын

First time i saw a basic lake as a kid, i was like "man the ocean is big"

@filopon7116 5 ай бұрын

I can't believe porphyry used this argument lmao. i gonna show this to my neoplatonic friends

@shellbackbeau7021 5 ай бұрын

These are my favorite of your videos.

@BoundyMan 5 ай бұрын

A common mistake everyone makes, including Christians, is to interpret the Bible according to our current language and customs rather than the language and customs of the authors and their intended readers.

@MartinRamsbottom-is2bl 5 ай бұрын

Any tiny little thing will do as long as they can dress it up as pretending to be truth when its anything but.. They seek to ease their conscious, their guilt that comes from within, the nagging truth of God in his mercy gave us .. They learn, from sheer persistence, to numb themselves of true decency and of a nature to care for others outside of their immediate family.. Man will always be wicked. Men need saving from themselves.. Lord Jesus thank you, thank you, thank you for your mercy and your grace. We are nothing without you..

@creeg8303 5 ай бұрын

My home state has zero lakes, but it has more than a few reservoirs that people (including the government) call lakes e.g. Summersville Lake, Beech Fork Lake, etc. To say an encyclopedia is untrustworthy for repeating this nomenclature would be obtuse.

@MatthewChenault 5 ай бұрын

This “contradiction” is more like splitting hairs.

@BornAgainBrother 5 ай бұрын

@@MatthewChenault it’s a slippery slope at best

@MessianicJewJitsu 5 ай бұрын

We call a series of overgrown hills "the mountains" it's not a big deal

@KidOfRocknRoll 5 ай бұрын

This gives the same energy as 'bubbler' vs 'drinking fountain' vs 'water fountain'. Surely when our descendants look at our history and see this they will immediately object to it saying its a false translation or a plain lie because it had a different name.

@strongbelieveroftheholybible 5 ай бұрын

Everything will soon come to an end! Lord Jesus Christ is coming soon🙏🏼❤️🕊Repent, believe in the Gospel, Be Born Again

@DarrenGedye 5 ай бұрын

Calling the Sea of Galilee by its local name is actually a point in favour of those gospel's authenticity, not against! For a modern example I live in New Zealand, and we got internationally mocked when in 2021 our short-tailed bat got voted "bird of the year." However the mockers didn't know that in the Māori language the word 'manu' which is usually translated as 'bird' actually refers to any winged creature including birds, bats, cicadas, and butterflies. So those mocking us were actually demonstrating their own ignorance and cultural imperialism, very much like this alleged error. The error is actually made by the critics.

@jamaalandlatoria 5 ай бұрын

Its similar to my wife and I calling our fishing spot a fishing lake, when its just a big pond. Its not that crucial.

@imikewillrockyou 5 ай бұрын

Luke actually uses the Greek word "λίμνη" which commonly refers to a pool, harbor or basin in Greek. Jerome used the Latin word for "pool", a "stagnum" in the Vulgate. Hence if you read a translation from the Vulgate, like Wycliffe, it reads, "pool of Gennesaret" in Luke 5:1. Perhaps associating the lake with a known harbor of that city. In fact if you translate Luke 5:1, 5:2, and Luke 8:33 as "harbor" it makes perfect sense in the context Luke is using. Luke liked specificity.

@henriquenakamura5752 5 ай бұрын

This is such a strange objection to raise. It's like arguing the accuracy of the term "potato salad" because it doesn't qualify as a raw vegetable dish.

@pureblood7775 5 ай бұрын

Prophetic Revelations! Were through the Looking Glass people. I made it to 2-43. "Is the Dead Sea" a Sea?" "Episcopal see?" Si Senor

@ArrayzableMusic 5 ай бұрын

Yam was the ancient sea-god. Calling a lake which from time to time seems to be subjugated by a sea-god by violent storms and waves, makes it natural to call that lake a sea, when it displays yam/sea-like behaviour.

@ScottM1805 5 ай бұрын

140kmh winds traveling on a boat would definitely be a rough ride.

@TheNinjaInConverse 5 ай бұрын

I enjoy these shorter videos.

@williamdelcarmen7789 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for this :)

@shellbackbeau7021 5 ай бұрын

I've heard it called the Lake Tiberius, I think it was in my niv or NASB Bible, possibly on the maps in the back....

@munchycrusader1143 5 ай бұрын

Hey man i am not sure if you will see it but there is a problem A channel Called Cosmicskeptist Is putting bible verses out of context and claiming god is a hypocrite i hope you will look into his channel and thank tou for your guidance to christians God bless you

@TronicManiaEnteracts 5 ай бұрын

Don't click on those comments with inappropriate profiles, they are scammers trying to take advantage of lustful men. Luckily, we are walking with Christ, so we have no place of lust within our hearst. Just report them or move on.

@smashley4661 5 ай бұрын

Could you make a video explaining the context of Leviticus 27:4?

@TheAutisticApologist 5 ай бұрын

A modern analogy would be like the British calling Ben Nevis (elevation 4,413 ft.) a "mountain." To someone in the US, living in the Rocky Mountains or at the foot of the Sierra Nevada range, or in the Pacific Northwest alongside Mt. Rainier (elevation 14,409 ft.) or Mt. Shasta (elevation 14,163 ft.), this would be nothing more than a foothill, and it would be laughable to call something of that size in that region a "mountain." But to the British, it is the highest peak in the land, and therefore counts as a "mountain" to them.

@ivanos_95 5 ай бұрын

It's rather surprising that anyone in the New Covenant refered to any body of water as "lake", considering that "sea" applied to every body of water, or there was no categorization into oceans and lakes in the Old Covenant.

@HodgePodgeVids1 5 ай бұрын

This has to be in running for the most grasping at straws attempt to discredit the Gospels

@historian9484 5 ай бұрын

I am from from Middle East and we still call rivers or lakes” sea”

@j4wo055 5 ай бұрын

We literally have a small lake in our town that we call "sea", probaly because it's one of the few tourist attractions in the city and we're proud of it, or it might be because we are a landlocked country and we made our own sea. Nevertheless, it's just a cultural thing, people might give places inaccurate names and it can stick. This objection to the Bible isn't very serious and it should be taken like that.

@maxiomburrows2099 5 ай бұрын

Lake Superior is about 500 time larger than the Sea of Galilee, or one 1/4 the size of Lake Simcoe.

@jjwwqq 5 ай бұрын

1 Kings 7:23-26 describes the sea that was constructed as part of the tabernacle furnishings. Obviously, this wasn’t a large body of salt water connected to an ocean.

@timothyscavo8510 5 ай бұрын

Skeptics have always been desperate. That's how much they hate personal accountability to God, so they nitpick errors from His Word.

@IvarsKublins 5 ай бұрын

And I am not suprised that exactly Luke got it "right". He as the doctor was keen on details, that's why it is natural for him to refer it as lake. He ws precise guy on everything - like scalpel :D

@mysotiras21 5 ай бұрын

Luke also did not live near Galilee, so he would not have been familiar with what the locals called this body of water.

@joshuagrebert1072 5 ай бұрын

I live in Australia, near an area called Lake Macquaire.. its not a lake. Its an inlet of the ocean. But if you tell someone who lives there that, they look at you like, "well done Sherlock! No one cares!" I feel like this is the same argument haha

@DominikĎurkovský 5 ай бұрын

Quick question: will you ever update the recommended reading list on your website? I've noticed, there have been multiple books that you have recommended in your recent videos, which aren't in the recommended reading, so I was curious on wether they are as useful as the ones recommended. Or Maybe put in the list of all the books you've Read lol (Impossible Challenge).

@Magic-mystery-man 5 ай бұрын

When seamen are seeing the sea, seemingly those seamen just seem to see the sea as a sea, do you see? They also like lakes, but there is no lake to like, likewise it is lacking a likeness to a sea, as can can see for free.

@NotRick95 4 ай бұрын

Hi IP, have you ever done a video on the chronology of the post resurrection appearances?

@InspiringPhilosophy 4 ай бұрын

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@NotRick95 4 ай бұрын

@@InspiringPhilosophy Thank you! It’s always cool to get a reply from someone like you, very much appreciated

@joshuamueller3206 5 ай бұрын

1. Will probably make IP's day: Why does this matter? 2. I think the Sea of Galilee being referred to be different names in the Gospels just adds credibility. 3. As a Michigander people calling 'lakes' 'seas' is a common occurrence, even among natives to the state.

@jsto6056 Ай бұрын

These same skeptics would have purely punished the writers the other way if they called it the Lake of Gennesaret. Because then they would have claimed they didn't call it what the locals of the time called it, the Sea of Galilee!

@karachie2008 5 ай бұрын

You know you’ve won when your opponent needs to use pedantry as their weapon 😅

@johnrichardson7629 4 ай бұрын

While I have heard about the Sea of Galilee not being an actual sea before, I have yet to see anyone make a big deal about it. Maybe some have but I haven't seen it.