The Secret Mayhem And Burzum Tunings

[@fromthenorth2]

I just love this kind of black metal, especially Burzum. It's so raw and beautiful.

[@Omen6-6-6]

Try Nigra Necis it’s fuckig raw like Burzum 😅

[@kadestorm]

Yeah, the 432Hz tuning was something some Extreme Metal musicians were using up there to get a slightly distinct sound, especially back in those days. Ditto for the radical use of the HM-2, for its time, with the Death Metal crowd pursuing the chainsaw sound while some of the Black Metal crowd were using it as a kind of brutal tinged fuzz. But hey, 440 or 432 -- those are killer riffs!

[@DevGohil]

You the man

[@zAvAvAz]

450 and 432 as A in E standard tuning they sound best in

[@elliotparker097]

I have learned a significant amount from your black metal videos, Deven Gohil, your teachings are a blessing.

[@DevGohil]

Strong

[@MetalAndHell666]

You have an awesome playing technique. I like. so on. I'm Polish, but I've been living in Deutschland-Köln for about 12 years. and here I learned to play the guitar, and here I met your channel. I am self-taught.

[@Vazaqin]

I've wondered this too! i thought it was E flat, but that sounded off too!

[@DevGohil]

Now the world knows

[@doomyeti3521]

@3:26 When its coooold….and when its Daaaaark. The freezing Moon can obsesss youuu!

[@naruto199797]

A lot of bands had weird tunings back in the 80s and 90s especially bands who were recording with a low budget some would do it intentionally some wouldn't

[@andtuningforall4957]

Probably just the tapes that were either sharpening or flattening the pitch by a few cents, because even slayer and every debut album had slightly sharper tuning

[@erymanthonseth9295]

Interesting video. I get asked about those tunings often on my channel too when I do covers and stuff so I discussed the topic too in the past. My take on the subject is that the tape machine they had in the studio had some playback speed defect, and that's why the pitch is altered. Mayhem used to tune to E flat when playing live around that time, it can be heard on the Live in Leipzig recording for instance. Varg probably tuned to E standard, but the playback glitch made all those recordings sound a tad sharper than the original tuning at which they were recorded (especially since the synth too is in tune with the guitars, and I doubt they messed with the synth's frequency). I can't say for sure, but that's my guess. Good playing by the way!

[@doomyeti3521]

@5:45 “hello my name is uurrrrr Varg Vikernes and i play in urrr ThE BurZum!”

[@DevGohil]

hahahahahahaha

[@doomyeti3521]

Really informative video, good to hear the difference between the tunings

[@DevGohil]

You the man

[@voronOsphere]

Excellent video, Dev! Thanks! Very beautiful tuning pitches (for whatever reasons)...

[@DevGohil]

Deffo have their own flavour

[@00Blackthorne00]

I did not know about Burzum at 450! Always wondered why it sounded different with my shitty attempts. Thanks man!🤘

[@DevGohil]

No worries man glad this helped

[@ZeroMilk]

Interesting. To play De Mysteriis, I always tuned perfectly halfway between E and E-flat, and that sounded just right to me. I guess it could just be that that were using the old 432Hz standard too, but I’m not sure what tuners they would have been using to do that

[@DevGohil]

not sure either, 432hz is kinda close the mid of E and Eb

[@00Blackthorne00]

I think Teloch said in one of his play-through videos that they really didn't use tuners back then. :)

[@unitedinmutilation]

Vargs tuning went outta wack because ( from what I have heard and can guess) his guitar had a floating trem and it just settled high. I had that happen on my somber collection part 2 release and man it sounds cold. Thank you for sharing with everyone. Just goes to show that just by changing tuning just a little your options are infinite.

[@DevGohil]

that makes sense

[@SamYaZdian]

i thought you are gonna talk about the greater magic to tune it as open Dm (DADFAD) or alternatively open Em (means to just tune up A and D strings to B and E). Its the best for any blackmetal (or maybe metal?) riff. Creating new song or playing others

[@DevGohil]

if these bands did play in open tunings, then yeah

[@doomyeti3521]

Now you need to take the prison Burzum albums and play the keyboard riffs through some krieg tone

[@doomyeti3521]

VERY IMPORTANT

[@kingpriapatius5832]

Thank you for the information. At 0:51, the second part of the riff, the first low note, is not an E but an F. I've tried it myself, and I think it's an F. Simon Smith also demonstrates this with a low F. I strongly believe that the bass also plays F.

[@DevGohil]

The bass plays an F Guitars on record are playing an E, I even play it wrong here, the notes are right but it has a weird spidery chord shape. i learned it from Blackthorn 2:03 kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGTKlXepnMeaotk

[@kingpriapatius5832]

@@DevGohil Hello. Yes, Blackthorn says for the riff, "I've seen played in different ways", and (I assume) he speaks about the band. Probably, he demonstrates the original composition. In this live video, the guitar player 99.9% plays an F kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3-ze6qvrbWUf8U. 0:36, then again at 5:04. So the original was with an E, but then the second part changed one semitone.

[@trajtemberg]

Saved for future reference. Great job mate.

[@DevGohil]

no worries

[@withinthrall1445]

Any chance you could do a lesson of the song Whore off Chimera by mayhem? I know that era of mayhem isn’t everyone’s favorite so maybe a long shot lol

[@DevGohil]

Blasphemer era mayhem is sick, yeah will add to the list

[@cwebs_4376]

So what I’ve gathered from the whole Filosofem recording is that every track other than Dunkelheit were recorded around the same time being that Dunkelheit was the original “Burzum Track”, thus giving it a different tuning and even a slightly different tone if you can notice it.

[@spritefroggy]

No. All of the Filosofem songs were recorded at the same time - however, Varg tried recording Dunkleheit on Hvis Lyset Tar Oss and didn't like the recording, so he attempted it again on Filosofem.

[@cheekibreeki921]

The Burzum tuning for Filosofem sounds like the tuning Impaled Nazarene used for the entire Ugra-Karma album but I'm not sure. I'm also almost certain this was the same for what Dissection used for The Somberlain and sorta what Tsjuder used for majority of the songs for Desert Northern Hell.

[@AndruJorj]

Nice guitar.

[@DevGohil]

It’s solid

[@IrlylikeInFlames]

@@DevGohil how low of a tuning do you think can the pickups handle? Like maybe drop Bb? I'm really interested in the guitar, good price point, looks and sounds good for metal playing.

[@DevGohil]

@@IrlylikeInFlames best to upgrade these pups but I think they’d be fine for low tunings

[@IrlylikeInFlames]

@@DevGohil cheers thanks!

[@zannzann5754]

How about Dissection Somberlain album? Any idea what hz? Not 440.

[@DevGohil]

I will investigate

[@zannzann5754]

Cheers 😊

[@claytonbjork5687]

Keep up the good work..

[@DevGohil]

thanks man

[@alvaro3883]

Hey man, good video, I already smelled what the tuning of "de mysteriis dom sathanas" was, but I didn't expect that the tuning of "filosofem" was a 450 hz tuning, very rare in metal. One question, do you know the tunings of "deathcrush" by mayhem, "the somberlain" by dissection and "enter the moonlight gate" by lord belial? I have heard that these tunings also have a particularity in the hz as well, it would be great if you made a video of those tunings, greetings!! 🤘👍

[@DevGohil]

a second tunings video is incoming

[@alvaro3883]

@@DevGohil Oh okay, I'll be looking forward to it, thanks for answering me and good luck in your projects

[@MetalAndHell666]

Deven, Thank you for showing this material. I play myself but I always wonder about their guitar tuning. Now bright as the sun ☀️. A few days ago I had a serious injury to my left hand. Stitched muscles and tendons and veins. Finger from the ring, I can't die it. How many months of rehabilitation does not help, it's the end of a guitar career. that was the biggest dream. which has almost come true. I really like watching you play, etc. And why this change of guitars to Jackson with Dean??? I greet you cordially ... although I do not know you personally, and I would like to because of the guitars, wish me a return to the game. 🎸🤘🤘🤘🎸

[@DevGohil]

Ah mate I hope the hand recovers I changed to Jackson because I moved, trust me, I need a Dean again

[@MetalAndHell666]

@@DevGohil Approx. I understand. And thank you for the kind words about the river. I have to play again. Metal is our life. Am I right??? Thank you, and best regards to you. until next video🎸🤘🤘🤘🎸 The fact is that I have a hard time watching the guitar play. It hurts me that I can't. And will I be able??? 👋

[@DevGohil]

@@MetalAndHell666 I’d say speak to a physician and check man

[@fernandogalvez9805]

What guitar is that? Looks awesome! Edit: Nevermind, made it to the end of the video just now. Sick!

[@DevGohil]

best guitar Donner sell

[@mikerauter1859]

Awesome playing, guitar and tuning info! And can't resist Dev, any thoughts on Lux Aeterna?

[@DevGohil]

Cheers man, it’s alright, ima stick to ride the lightning tho

[@doomyeti3521]

Sux Aeterna

[@MontagTheMagician]

eh, I've got a turn table with speed control, I can bring it up (or down) to me regardless.

[@IrlylikeInFlames]

Is the Filosofem tuning different from Burzum/Aske? I know that the original Ea Lord of the Depths recording is sharper/higher than E standard

[@DevGohil]

Will need to investigate

[@niccolosacchi8213]

Actually I'm pretty sure that both de mysteriis and at least first burzum album are recorded with half semitone downtuned guitars and bass

[@balrogDCLXVI]

I need to mention that the 2nd half of the opening riff of De Mysteriis starts from a low F, not E. This makes it pretty difficult because you have to skip 2 strings.Otherwise excellent, as always!

[@DevGohil]

you sure? kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKDdc5SqdqlkjNU&ab_channel=grindylover

[@balrogDCLXVI]

@@DevGohil Yes, I am:) But I meant the song De Mysteriis which you play as first here, not Freezing Moon that you linked

[@Cooper-cs6dp]

Megadeths debut album is tuned to either 430 hz or 432 hz

[@mykneeshurt8393]

New guitar?

[@DevGohil]

Yup

[@HirmeBlessTimung-re9ic]

Did you use padel?

[@DevGohil]

no pedals

[@HirmeBlessTimung-re9ic]

@@DevGohil Thankyou soo much for your reply 🖤

[@DevGohil]

@@HirmeBlessTimung-re9ic I used the audio assault reamp software here

[@HighestPower]

💡

[@madd7e]

your picking is so impressive 😭 you put your wrist on vibrate or sum shit

[@DevGohil]

hahah thanks man

[@avfn8981]

good ear!

[@richardaaron4454]

Is it AAAGGG?

[@DevGohil]

Not quite

[@shlacked2690]

Aren't all of the pre prison burzum albums in 450 hz

[@jorgerodz0000]

Greetings

[@DevGohil]

Yo

[@insanity_dog4417]

THANK YOU SHIV MEHRA FROM DEAFHEAVEN!

[@alteredstate4320]

Please , English speaker.. say Boor-ZOOM. 😢

[@pierrej.f.l.l4761]

5:46 6:46

[@gstrdms]

Katharsis also seems to use A=432/430 for Kruzifixxion and VVVVE

[@DevGohil]

i gotta check this out

[@Joshua-mk5rr]

Maybe make sure your right hand is up to speed before attempting those trem picking parts huh? Your timing is all over the place