The Secret Mechanics Behind WSG Jumps in WoW

In Season of Discovery, Warsong Gulch jumps are very important, but what are the actual mechanics behind them? Here's how to do the most important jumps and the secrets you need to know so you can come up with your own.
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0:00 Prelude
0:27 Intro
1:09 Pixel Clip
1:34 Wall Jump
1:52 Secret #1
2:45 Technique
3:01 Corner Align
3:11 "Catch"
3:37 Secret #2
4:19 Short GY
4:52 Steep Pixel Clip
5:07 Hard Jumps
5:40 Weird Jumps
6:25 Secret #3
6:57 Ally Fence
Music:
Uppermost - Travel to the Top
Gunz: The Duel - Main Menu

[@Dave-lh5cy]

Discordlink pls 😉

[@RemixSSBM]

finally up: Nd6DQxWye8

[@thebirdman6593]

Not only is this an incredible video, but god damn when that GunZ the duel music kicks in 3:37, just perfect

[@yeti1989]

oh i knew i heard that music somewhere, damn i miss that game

[@eonarose]

My brother and I did this back in wrath to get into Mount Hyjal before it was opened in Cata. It took forever climbing from winterspring.

[@ZeriAi]

The GunZ music in the background dealt emotional damage to me

[@beepbeep8489]

ssbm and wow mechanics im here for it. AND GUNZ THE DUEL CONTENT this tutorial reminded me alot of learning some gunz mechanics and i cant believe you have gunz tutorials too

[@CodZapper]

I remember watching your videos when I was first learning melee in 2017 :3. Funny that I got recommended this video for wow 6 years later

[@remekz_]

really good video, thank you.

[@lavarune4193]

Damn the Gunz background music! Also, great video! Was wondering why the jumping weren't as easy to do these days than back in the day... I used to always jump around exploring the world haha.

[@RemixSSBM]

Everyone mentioning the Gunz music just warms my heart :D

[@lavarune4193]

Are there any big servers still up?@@RemixSSBM

[@PeacebladeTV]

Solid video!

[@JustLikeYou.]

The craziest part about this video is the fact you move forward with E lol

[@dirtpoorchris]

Surprised you modern gamers haven't discovered the elite key rebinds.

[@JustLikeYou.]

@@dirtpoorchris we are just mere peasants lol

[@Andyhaz1]

Gunz online theme kicks in

[@bugga622]

good info! I had no idea about polling rate... thought i was just getting old and slow haha

[@JurpiTV]

Sick video, very informative. thanks for making it! infroma

[@PciZStratoX]

Like melee, muscle memory ! Its so cool to finally have a video that really explain that art ! Maybe with luck people will stop complain about, but actually learn it ! It can be complete new way to play wsg, imagine not rush for gear and learn jumps also : new skill unlock ! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS

[@jamesofallthings3684]

So this is why it was way easier to do this stuff back in the day.

[@agentdelta569]

For thise of us with fancy gaming keyboards Do you think you could macro the double button press to consistently do both button presses at the same time?

[@rolesar3899]

nice vid 👍

[@ChrisOnTheCoast]

true about using bad keyboards and bad laptop/pc. when using my old laptop, i can go through the bubble in Eye of The Storm battleground in a RBG and actually begin capping the base before the match even starts. All because my old laptop is too slow to get the bubble locked in/activated.

[@skiz9447]

Nostalgia just crit me with the GunZ theme

[@jasonstanley7326]

Thank you I'm going to use these tactics when I come across a premade in WSG... Taking that flag to some wacky places

[@claytongiampaolo7848]

Alternate title: how to be an A hole in Wsg

[@Invictus_Mithra]

Can I use this tech to multishine with gnome?

[@9ntice]

Alternatively you could try to Late Dash Reload Halfstep

[@PotajeOSRS]

The melee/gunz references. Love it

[@emozewA]

Do you even k-style?

[@Azeroh]

o shit ur wahey, I’ve been lurking on ur stream for a little bit. that ui is something lol. very naisu video

[@emozewA]

The gunz music tho 😂🔥🔥

[@HighGrieflordStephen]

dope video 10/10

[@gochujango]

how do you get in wsg to practice like you are in the video? i saw a post about using the warmane client and a sandbox program, but I could only get the wrath version of the game to load.

[@RemixSSBM]

I did this on SoD. With 5+ players in each party, you add each other on bnet, then /wg bnetname warsong

[@JackMaddison-ng1bz]

What do you need to download to lessen delay between space bar key and jumping There is a programme where you can stop the delay

[@nijel7327]

awesome video. so what keyboard do you use?

[@RemixSSBM]

It say PR1101U as the model number.

[@Ehxx]

Holy shit. The cliff jumps at 1:36 are insane. I've literally bound a macro to hit w and space at the exact same time to make walljumping easier. But even then 99% of the time I just smooth run off instead of jump. Or I just fall when I land on the wall. But most of the time it smooth runs.

[@tipsysmichigander6483]

A macro cannot initiate two functions at the same millisecond. So it would make sense that it isn't working.

[@Ehxx]

@@tipsysmichigander6483 I set up a keyboard one and it works now. The macro on my mouse software just bugs out too much.

[@MageAtYou]

in vanilla there was an addon that showed if you had the correct angle, never seen it referenced anywhere so its likely forgotten, but I know I used it when jumping on top of things in IF.

[@marttern6004]

@@MageAtYou any chance you remember what it's name was/could be?

[@tarxan4034]

I used macro gamer but forgot the combination

[@arforafro5523]

GunZ's menu theme

[@bigbassjonz]

Would a maco to jump and move forward work?

[@robinspanier7017]

2:24 ohhh thats why i was struggling to do the jumps with my high end keyboard.. lol

[@dirtpoorchris]

You are the first person I seen besides me that uses E,s,d,f as movement keys to open up more spell bind keys.

[@mvqdh]

Finally someone mentions keyboard. Differences

[@ManOfSdeel]

this deserves more views, highly nifty

[@trelus]

can you explain the difference between the ally GY jum,p when your mounted vs not mounted. I can only do it without mount but one of my friends was able to do it consistently with mount and i couldnt figure out how to and he couldnt really give me any good tips on it.

[@RemixSSBM]

You need to either have a mount capable of doing a neutral jump, which allows you to do a wall jump mounted. That is only available on a few mounts (I'm not sure if any in vanilla). Alternatively, you need to give yourself some run up room to do it with 0 wall jumps in some way similar to the "noob" method i show in the video.

[@trelus]

ty bro ill see if i can make it work@@RemixSSBM

[@Lorem_youtube]

on monintor crosshair you can use with a weakaura, no need to tape

[@RemixSSBM]

Yep, just depends what you prefer.

[@zacharykyle4485]

Appreciate this brother

[@LolSaiYes]

can you do gnome double butterfly next really though this is insane, you're a beast

[@hannahalexy]

Huh. Is this a gunz reference

[@LolSaiYes]

absolutely, that lobby music at 3:36 sent me BACK IN TIME UGHHH @@hannahalexy

[@hannahalexy]

@@LolSaiYes ooh I must've missed/skipped that somehow. Soo many hours of my childhood were spent there 😊

[@user-qg2oh3gi3t]

What's the difference if I use a macro? Is the macro just /dismount correct?

[@nicolasjochem1814]

Do these jump mechanics work only in WSG or all over in the open world?

[@RemixSSBM]

Everywhere.

[@MadCuzBad_]

lower framerates make these jumps 100x easier to land if you normally play at 200fps and have trouble doing this cap yourself to 60 and it becomes easy af

[@alanwelch9216]

I want to believe, anyone confirm?

[@pseusan]

@@alanwelch9216 inputting a walljump is easier on lower frame rate (due to timing), collision varies with framerate but whether it's 'easier' or not depends on what you're trying to accomplish

[@braindamage7128]

what addon has the on screen buttons?

[@RemixSSBM]

To show inputs? It's a program called NohBoard.

[@Calimariyum]

pls make a vid about stormwind fountain

[@joe_duck]

What client are you on?

[@RemixSSBM]

All footage was done on the WoW Classic client version 1.15.0.52610 on Season of Discovery servers at level 25.

[@archvaldor]

Brilliant video though for those who are intimidated by all this stuff it should be added I and many other people learned to do all these jumps from trial and error without really understanding the mechanics. It will speed up the process though.

[@Greg-gy7cd]

How did you get your own server for classic in wsg?

[@RemixSSBM]

If you have 10 players, you can use the wargame command to go into a private WSG. more info for the command is on wowhead

[@the_naik597]

@@RemixSSBM yea, but why whaheytv gnome does not exist at sod logs?) mb this si NOT sod WSG?))

[@RemixSSBM]

@@the_naik597 waheytv is level 10. yehaw is my main, who also appears in this video

[@ravx25]

This is crazy. My toon just slides off the side of cliffs and walls. I can't get him to pin to any wall like that no matter what angle I use. Also how are you getting a new line after each e in notepad? Space just puts a space, not a carriage return.

[@RemixSSBM]

Some walls are hard coded to not allow pixel clips. Try somewhere else. I was just pressing enter after each wall jump input in notepad. It doesn't matter if you do that or not, cause you'd see a double letter without pressing enter each time if your keyboard is bad.

[@minementalx]

ESDF master race :D

[@TheCucumbear]

I think i have the exact same keyboard as the one you shown when you constantly fail. FML

[@imnotagamer22]

Using 2 keyboards is a whole nother nerd universe 😂

[@coachryanjarata]

Parkour!?!? Let's go!!!

[@songflower1]

a jump press is a jump press. You can’t say it’s only a half

[@Impuracle]

unless it's a gnome

[@drews1071]

hope yall kept them old Dell keyboards on stock pile.

[@molbac]

cant get over the esdf

[@7starmantis7]

this guy in a parkor ninja 😂

[@100timezcooler]

its so hard getting a feel for what texture you just slide off of. thats the most frustrating part of these jumps

[@sjoervanderploeg4340]

@2:28: eight milliseconds! The latency difference does not matter, it is the way keys are buffered by the keyboard.

[@RemixSSBM]

Ya, I don't know the details of how keyboards work. I just gave one possible explanation so people can have a loose idea of why keyboards are different for jumps. I said 4ms because the polling interval timing is effectively random, so 4ms is the average of an 8ms window.

[@sjoervanderploeg4340]

@@RemixSSBM A USB HID-compliant keyboard device will put a keyboard input report message in its IN buffer, which contains up to 6 key press codes and a modifier code. So when you press two buttons at the same time, a keyboard with a higher polling rate would report a single button a bunch of times before it starts sending two key strokes. Latency is a delay, whatever Hz is just the rate at which a system runs.

[@TheMrRichard]

Some of these in Warsong, to cap flags, will get you flagged.

[@toolshedsz]

SDFE master race

[@joendoe7633]

is the discord dead?

[@RemixSSBM]

Yeah. I heard jwl is trying to remake it, but I'm not sure it's back up yet.

[@rayrack5416]

There are crosshair weakauras

[@WhiteSupreme]

I have an optical keyboard so it's pretty simple.

[@fatfatr]

wouldnt it be easier to just hack ur driver to 125hz or get a keyboard that supports variable polling rate?

[@RemixSSBM]

I think most people have an old keyboard sitting around or can easily get one. I'm also just not sure how to underclock a keyboard's polling rate or if it's even possible.

[@fatfatr]

@@RemixSSBM if you can find a modded driver for your hardware you can get whatever polling rate you desire

[@IqVRN4Blca29jaxkodXn]

best race/gender for jumps? for me its easier to do jumps on a night elf. though it seems male night elf is better than female night elf

[@RemixSSBM]

i think it's tuaren male. night elf male is very good for jumps, but you slow down your alliance fence jumps when compared to female though, so keep that in mind.

[@drenth27]

This is why I am just afking in ashinvale, fuck wsg

[@dflowers6771]

good way to get yourself suspended. dont believe me? keep it up

[@RemixSSBM]

Blizzard knows which jumps are allowed and which aren't. They only ban if you're doing the jumps which are not allowed. None of the jumps in this video will get you banned. The banned jumps are much more difficult and gamebreaking than these simple ones. All top WSG players have been spamming these jumps for years and nobody has ever been banned wrongfully.

[@allmike8487]

Exalted. No need.

[@baptistejean4316]

that's some LOUD intro music

[@paradigmshift7541]

this is really cool, but i have no idea how to do these still, i'm way too r*tarded

[@user-zn7vh5or5c]

fuck that i use my xbox controller to play wow

[@whitbygappa5762]

🙌 Promo'SM

[@enri4215]

remix i love you please marry me

[@Apemania69]

Or just use a macro for the jump :)

[@Old_Prospector]

I “e” your “w”? Seemed like you were always jumping with e instead of w and never explained the purpose of that key.

[@RemixSSBM]

It's move forward. I move with ESDF instead of WASD.

[@traveler263]

jesus christ ... tfw got a phd in wow ...

[@NathenToZuo]

just play demonhunter

[@Cole-ld7dc]

Just macro the jump lol

[@Burlehmangus]

Male trolls imo are the worst. Something about that character model is horrific. Even just the little first 2 jumps in rfc boosts in sod right now are fine as UD/female troll. But as male troll it’s terrible

[@philippthaler5843]

this is why the game sucks. this should be bannable. not just the account, but the person from all blizzard games.

[@Acolis]

this shit just needs to be nerfed and access to these areas blocked. total nonsense BS that doesnt need to be in the game.

[@TC-dg5pm]

you jumpers are so annoying and sweaty

[@notSDF]

inb4 pin of shame

[@janakipejov3667]

Taught me nothing, just show cool jumps

[@RemixSSBM]

Is there something that was unclear? I can try to give more info possibly

[@tipsysmichigander6483]

What monitor made in the last 5 years doesn't have a cross hair in the settings to display on your screen?

[@RemixSSBM]

I assume there's a lot, but also many people are on monitors older than 5 years, including myself. Also, the crosshairs are often more intrusive than what I'd like personally, so I'd prob use tape anyways in most cases.

[@pseusan]

@@RemixSSBM use a weakaura you can make one yourself with no talent in sub 1 minute new aura > texture > click folder icon > click dropdown > shapes > click a ring > click okay > adjust width/height/color/opacity to your choosing

[@NopeAce631]

trash game is trash