How to SOLO FARM your PreRaid BIS Rogue Gear in Season of Discovery

ALTERNATE VANCLEEF STRATEGY: Just a Flesh Wound + Blade Dance + Saber Slash. Sap one add, sleep one with Magic Dust if you have it, and fight without kiting. Save Evasion until after Vancleef summons the second set of adds. Here is a clip: / 2040126588
JUMP PROBLEMS: It has been reported that some character races cannot make the jump from the box on top of Vancleef's ship. This is due to different races having different models and jump properties. If you are struggling with this jump, try eating a Savory Deviate Delight to turn into a human.
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0:00 Intro
0:53 Talents, Gear, & Runes
2:02 Deadmines - Getting to Vancleef
7:23 Deadmines - Vancleef Strategy & Rune Swap
8:46 Deadmines - Vancleef Kill
11:54 Shadowfang Keep - Getting to Silverlaine
13:58 Shadowfang Keep - Baron Silverlaine Kill
15:33 Wailing Caverns - Getting to Cobrahn
16:16 Wailing Caverns - Lord Cobrahn Kill
18:00 Outro
WoW Classic SOD Season of Discovery Rogue Gearing Guide BIS Best In Slot Phase 1 PvE Raid PreRaid Easy to get Gear Items Sword Dagger Saber Slash Backstab Mutilate DPS SFK DM WC Shadowfang Keep Wailing Caverns Deadmines Baron Silverlaine Edwin Vancleef Defias Lord Cobrahn Leggings of the Fang Cruel Barb Cape of the Brotherhood Blackened Defias Armor Silverlaine's Family Seal Solo Rogue Farm Preraid BIS Pre Raid

[@SimonizeShow]

ALTERNATE VANCLEEF STRATEGY: Just a Flesh Wound + Blade Dance + Saber Slash. Sap one add, sleep one with Magic Dust if you have it, and fight without kiting. Save Evasion until after Vancleef summons the second set of adds. Here is a clip: www.twitch.tv/videos/2040126588 JUMP PROBLEMS: It has been reported that some character races cannot make the jump from the box on top of Vancleef's ship. This is due to different races having different models and jump properties. If you are struggling with this jump, try eating a Savory Deviate Delight to turn into a human.

[@ehu7995]

you can distract just ONE of the add from captain greenskin each time, greenskin and the other add will continue walking

[@SimonizeShow]

Oh man that's a really good tip, that makes greenskin way better. Distract one of the adds, let Greenskin + other add walk away, kill the lone add. Pinned your comment!

[@ehu7995]

also you should try the other Vancleef jump where you jump to the platform where all the smaller cannons are(behind where he was located), Vancleef+adds will run a big cicrcle around(you go counterclock wise to the wooden ramp part, once they get to you you can jump out to the wooden platform and VC will go around the circle again). Might take longer but probably dont require changing talents etc, just need pot/bandage@@SimonizeShow

[@SimonizeShow]

I don't like that because it requires clearing another whole platform worth of enemies. I had seen that strategy before and didn't want to have to clear so many mobs.

[@Spailon]

one of the best wow tutorials i've seen, super informational and to the point!

[@flagermusen]

Really helpful video, this is the kind of SoD content that I'm looking for! Great stuff

[@MicroMintyHourglass]

Another super entertaining video from you. Hope you had a happy new year. Thanks for the content. Cheers!

[@flamerollerx01]

You could also use an anti-venom from first aid to remove that poison. They aren't too expensive and they're very easy to farm as well. You only need the first anti-venom as well, because it cures up to level 25 poisons, which don't exist in the deadmines. That poison is level 20 from greenskin.

[@alphabromega859]

Simonize, let me just tell you that this was the video that got me to play a rogue. It was really well done and offered a challenge. As a big tauren warrior main, It also showed how fun the sneaky rogue toolkit is. Just finished my FIRST bfd raid last night on my rogue, did really well following your guide, and i thought it was especially slick when everyone got pushed off the Aquanis platform i vanished -> shadow strike to get immediately back into the action. I then got my honed talwar. So fun!

[@SimonizeShow]

Awesome!!! So glad to hear it and GRATS on the talwar!

[@Gormfeld]

Very informative! I've done DM 4 times so far on my rogue, and haven't even seen a cruel barb drop! This way, when I finally do, it'll be all mine!

[@kendob9642]

Topped the meters 7/7 bosses on my first rogue bfd, in greens, thanks to your guide. Referred to myself as LIL PUMP the whole time. Thanks Simon!

[@SimonizeShow]

Nice work!

[@kendob9642]

@@SimonizeShow YUNG PUMP obliges

[@Milk-rn5uq]

King, Happy New Year!

[@eddiewinehosen6665]

I found killling Cobrahn much easier if you sap him, kill the 2-3 python adds and then nuke the boss.

[@Vassago1913]

xactly

[@malsirian0880]

That’s how I did it too

[@malsirian0880]

Took 12 kills before he dropped his pants though

[@dhamongrimwulfe5401]

Same. I mark the patrolling mob. Goes pretty far but safety wise I do it.

[@flamerollerx01]

Could also garrote him, saber slash once, pop blade dance and then kill the adds with auto-attacks to save energy (they should die before you tick up to 100 but if not you could get away with using some energy) and go back to the boss.

[@Nishinga.]

This video was so great and extremely helpful, thanks man !

[@Nisi1]

Your VC strat is so much better than mine! Mine was to use tank runes on chest and legs, sap an add, pop evasion at 50% for 100% avoidance and rush him down, then backpedal to evade spot. It worked, but yours is way cleaner and will be safer if I decide to make a 2nd rogue. Thanks dude!

[@SimonizeShow]

I've been able to do more upfront fighting strategies like that, but only with raid geared characters. This guy was level 24 with barely any gear or buffs so I had to pick a different strategy.

[@raylee2483]

This way was faster for me but I had some decent gear already minus the chest. 8 min runs. Love the content from simonize though for when you can’t pump VC hard enough as I ended around 30% HP using a health pot most of the time.

[@AJ-zy9jf]

Just started a Rogue for the first time and just wanna say thanks for posting these videos. I think you're the only one posting current good content for Rogues.

[@SimonizeShow]

Glad you like them!

[@Steak51430]

Pikaboo and Simonize and shobek are the best ones to watch imo

[@whiskybones]

Check out Kippzo

[@rustmacro4563]

Simonize is best for PvE content, if you need pvp find perplex videos. Shobek etc arent pvpers they are entertainmenters

[@alexforbes7812]

Pshero too

[@agentdelta569]

nice warcraft 3 background music the audio balance is really good too, the background music is audible, but your voice is also really audible

[@yowhatsup48]

Amazing that us rogues can do this! Thank you!

[@Kyawn88]

Nice video! What unit frames do you use? The central setup and being able to remove the energy bar looks really nice

[@drippinghere]

love your content dude, cheers

[@AwkwardDreamer]

As others have mentioned, anti-venom is really nice. It clears ALL poisons from you and has a short CD that isn't shared with potions/bandages. Plus you can use it to dispel/save others. I think people sleep on it XD

[@southeastbeast253]

Great content. Subscribed.🎉

[@9999crazymonkey]

I think you go 2 points in Endurance actually. Just getting more sprints will help you actually get to the bosses so much faster. That will have a significant impact if you need multiple runs to get the drops.

[@jesusl6227]

Amazing video as always bro good info on how to solo this stuff, and by the way If anyone has a rogue homie you can go and duo this and skip killing anything but VanCleef just keep kitting him to avoid the mobs walking around he should die before they do a full circle just rotate your vanishes, evasion and bring some thistle tea and health pots to make it faster, both me and the homie got all 3 items for rogue for both of us in 3 hours (total of 6 items) just a tip for anyone with a homie willing to help you out, think each clear took us about 9min tops once we got it down. and i guess you can duo all the other bosses just to speed things up.

[@SimonizeShow]

yeah if you bring two people, or you have a raid geared rogue, you can just stand still and kill the boss. www.twitch.tv/videos/2019190412

[@jesusl6227]

@@SimonizeShow Just checked out the video nice man you are the GOAT!!

[@JUKESofficial]

Thx alot, got em 1st try in WC at lvl 24

[@marioStortuga]

Never played rogue, but now you got me to think of leveling one.

[@time8oy378]

Great vid, tried it on my rogue and got Cobrahn down first try plus legs dropped. Big help!

[@Rave.-]

oooh im loving the wc3 music 15:56

[@R4S0N3]

ty 4 the logout skip in WC! needed that

[@austinmoon2626]

thanks simon

[@zernos3566]

nice vid man, whats the pokemon song during the silverlaine kill? been tryna find it and cant lol

[@UserName-ei7dk]

For baron silverpine you can wait for the close mob to patrol its farthest path distract and pull baron into the corner and they plus the worgen patrol wont pull for the entire fight. Will note I do this for gear runs at LVL 25 so this might not work if you are 24 just putting it out there for any fresh 25 rogue chads.

[@agentdelta569]

very impressive

[@Pillsick94]

How do you get rid of your energy on your character portrait ? Thats awesome! Nice guide.

[@Lambo_Righini]

I like all your hats

[@thegoofinator8522]

In SFK you ONLY need to kill the patroll Stay behind the boss close to the torch, open then jump back on the boxes (left side when looking at him from infront )

[@SimonizeShow]

I did it once only killing the patrol, and the two other guys aggro'd while i was fighting the boss. May have been because I was only level 24.

[@zeritox5160]

i usually don't kill anything but the boss, just gotta be a bit patient for one of them to walk past and if u position a bit on the right (behind the boss) u can kill him without pulling anything else, and also u don't need any tank talents for that boss, with a nice between the eyes stun you are good to go.

[@basmong]

9 runs and I finally get Leggings of the Fang. Did it at lvl 24. GearScore ~ 180. Runes: Saber Slash, Between the Eyes, Deadly Brew. Sometimes used Healing potion.

[@SimonizeShow]

good stuff!

[@Astr1d]

Now any chance you have a lockpicking location so you can do the door in deadmines? I've checked the level 1 spots in Barrens and Redridge and both are being botted to high heaven and can't be used at all.

[@SealArhArh]

Only a place I know is the boat in ratchet

[@CBRLady]

What Rogue addon are you using for Combo points couldn't find it on the discord.....

[@viralshorts-21s]

Which Addon do you use for the big life bars at ur character ?

[@kahowka]

I like the way you play the game

[@spk._]

hey simone, im gavng issues using envemom, what should i put on my weapons? sharpen them both? sharpen oh? poison with crippling? poison with isnatnt? ive noticed several times with 5 CPs i cans use envenom

[@SimonizeShow]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIvPfqOQfs1lpdE

[@Staysa001]

Not sure if VC goes far enough but there is a very easy kite spot down before mr smite, I saw a druid use it for soloing smite. You just hop on and off the railing. Would have to clear more but for those of us with white boi legs, it might be worth it.

[@SimonizeShow]

Yeah I saw many other kiting strategies in other videos and I didn't want to do any of them because it involved so much more mob clearing.

[@kirtonos]

the rogue master!

[@Hsnpza001]

Hey Simonize, whats your Addon for Energy/Combopoint Display? Is it Nug?

[@SimonizeShow]

all ui elements are on discord. linked in description

[@Jiddu88]

Epic!!!!!

[@yeee321]

Are you using stones or instant poison on weapons?

[@Laserred01]

Amazing luck on leggings of the fang! My rogue got it 6th try, hunter 25+ tries and nothing.

[@sethm8639]

Anyone have any tips on how to make the VC jump with undead male? I'm struggling and I'm not sure if it is a different jump animation just not "sticking" like in the video or if I am doing something wrong.

[@bastianchristwagner8320]

having the same issue

[@Rotfire]

same, can't stick it as a dwarf

[@KeLim3Pie]

I tried to practice the jump for 30+ minutes on a gnome and never got it a single time. Ended up giving up

[@SimonizeShow]

check pinned comment for vancleef

[@goflux]

what addon are those combo point circles from? is it a weakaura thing or something else?

[@SimonizeShow]

all addons and weakauras are on discord, like it says in the video description

[@lebac]

I just don't know how you pull adds from Baron Silverlaine without aggroing him and other add. I sometimes pull him when I fight both adds on the stairs where you fought them.

[@JustDefy]

gg dawg!

[@alexpool2814]

At the lever in sfk you can vanish immediately after pulling the lever if you stand at the back of the cell you wont be detected when doing the dialog

[@Rfxy]

Whats the point of doing it? If u talk to npc u need to get out of stealth and wait another 10 sec to restealth

[@kennyallums7984]

Nice hat, Dr. Jones.

[@gabes.1882]

Never played a rogue before but have been enjoying the challenge of trying to solo things lol, currently 21 and was trying to solo the deadly brew rune but can't seem to stealth past the dinning room so ill try again at 22 when i get vanish lol Ps: love the Pokemon tracks

[@darrenlochinski2659]

if you respec into subtlety you should be able to do even at level 20

[@javierarroyo7887]

I did it at 20 with 5pts master of deception

[@askinnakklevaar98]

Respec and put 5 points in master of deception and 5 points in camouflage

[@LukeA471]

So basically, have near bis-like BoE drops first got it :( Love the music choice and gameplay though nice job

[@gnortsmralien9762]

how do you get these numbers visually big? is this an addon?

[@7starmantis7]

i love these videos, my problem is i can never effectively use the exploits right 😅😂 specifically naming the VC one. I'll give it a shot though. My gear is decent have pre bis and a couple BFD bis gear so it might be a little easier, i want CB for off hand.

[@SimonizeShow]

check pinned comment about vancleef strat

[@Kurtler10]

yay simon time

[@jamesb7792]

what’s your “too far” add on/weakaura? love it!

[@SimonizeShow]

all ui elements are on discord. linked in description

[@mikethemanlyestman]

Is this still viable with the recent change to Blade Dance?

[@samkaeppel1160]

I've been looking for a weak aura with the circles for combo points for a while, what is the line that changes it from square to circle?

[@SimonizeShow]

i dont know about "changing from a square to a circle" but all the weakauras and addons are in the video description

[@hcliff2100]

Do the first VC adds respawn if you were to kill them then vanish or kill them then evade reset?

[@SimonizeShow]

i didn't try it, but everyone in my twtich chat said that yes they would respawn

[@theman.6396]

Paladin took my cruel barb. Here we are.

[@marcogoncalves3207]

Hunters seeing a rogue jumping around and using gun to kill Van Cleef: "Look What They Need to Mimic a Fraction of Our Power"

[@Zeslaster]

Great guide! I think the tech to solo VanCleef is really freaking cool. However, if I am being honest, it is not worth using all those potions and rumsy rum etc. You racked up at least a 5g bill on all those consumes. You can get a blacksmith to craft a mighty iron hammer. Same AS and damage as barb, but has less AP. Or get a group and res your barb ; ). Other bosses however are much simpler and are definitely worth soloing.

[@masafarmi7709]

It's like Dire Maul Lite :D

[@poker600]

You can also kick the posion cast😄

[@gxrssll]

I got my leggings of the fang then one hour later got Troll legs to replace them lmao. Felt bittersweet

[@marcorossi3402]

Hey, may i ask you which addon you using to see enemies hp bars over their heads? TY!

[@TheUnprevented]

Ctrl +v

[@marcorossi3402]

addon? O_O @@TheUnprevented

[@SimonizeShow]

all ui elements are on discord. linked in description

[@Dropaduski]

I'm not sure why, but I am instantly having stealth broken by the wolf at the entrance of SFK. New to rouge, not sure if I am doing something wrong

[@somervillettv2272]

bro phase 2 is out this video should be deleted

[@hata6290]

This guy 😻

[@jonmeyer4373]

"Cruel Barb is also paladin pre-bis" -The Pally tank who took my Cruel Barb

[@SimonizeShow]

they took my bloodvenom blade in Icecrown Citadel too bro

[@mrloqqe1610]

why do i have less HP and less melee attack power with the same, or even slightly better, gear? i dont see a reason, weird ... (lvl 25 night elf rogue)

[@williambritton1717]

I regret not going orc I hope I can still solo these as undead. I chose undead because I knew a lot of world PVP would be happening ):

[@xSirhc]

at that point, just have another rogue/feral druid you dont mind farming with and itll go even faster

[@SimonizeShow]

unsurprisingly, it would be faster with more people. i had fun soloing it and plenty of other people enjoy that kind of challenge too.

[@xSirhc]

@@SimonizeShow i respect it

[@Carlvan102]

how long does it take per run with this strat? I am doing the long kite and takes me around 25 mins per kill

[@SimonizeShow]

i dont know, i did it only the one time and was learning and figuring it out that time. got cruel barb, didn't do it again

[@Carlvan102]

@@SimonizeShow oooh lucky you! I've done It like 15 times and no sword

[@How_Is_This_A_Name]

I don't understand what I'm doing wrong, i have the exact same setup as you but I can't manage to kill either of greenskin's pirates before i end up dying or having to vanish :(

[@SimonizeShow]

I also don't understand (or know at all) what you are doing wrong because I can't tell from what you've posted here.

[@islerenner]

what combo point / energy addon is that my friend?

[@SimonizeShow]

addons and weakauras are linked in the video description

[@loldud11]

how do you get that UI? it looks amazing, so clean

[@SimonizeShow]

all ui elements are on discord. linked in description

[@philipjohnson5297]

What addon are you using for the meters?

[@SimonizeShow]

all addons and weakauras are on discord, like it says in the video description

[@hxmr]

Can you solo the meteor shard from argul in SFK?

[@ChildofGravity]

No, the boss will mind control you and reset

[@jameslane2326]

what level of lockpicking do you need for the iron clad door?

[@SimonizeShow]

i'm not sure. Mine was at 80, just high enough to do my poison quest.

[@TonyJ1776]

anyone have a link to the weakaura for rune cool downs show above his weakaura energy bar?

[@SimonizeShow]

all addons and weakauras are on discord, like it says in the video description

[@MrGrammargod]

What's better? Vampiric Boot Knife or the Tooth 1.8 dagger?

[@JeremiahCommons]

boot knife for OH

[@alaskawinter923]

Reason for taking riposte? i don't see it on your skill bar.

[@mattmann06]

Reminds of HOJ runs all over again. XD

[@Shaolintemple888]

What’s the combo point addon on your UI?

[@SimonizeShow]

all addons and weakauras are on discord, like it says in the video description

[@Shaolintemple888]

@@SimonizeShow watch the attitude, nerd. I'll beat ur little hobbit ass next time you use that tone.

[@dragantopalovic1630]

what is that addon or WA what show energy and combo points ??

[@SimonizeShow]

all addons and weakauras are in video description

[@SealArhArh]

that jump is so hard

[@colesc6]

does anyone know if you can sell the boss kills at the end of the run? like masterloot to someone in party without clearing?

[@izeculd8828]

Baron Silverlain, and Cobrahn : yes. VanCleef only if they run with you (thus being a stealth class too)

[@colesc6]

@@izeculd8828 dangit, I figured- it’s a long run. There’s no way you wouldn’t have to clear half the instance anyways

[@MS-nl5gh]

Yeah thanks to you clowns the bots are out in full force

[@amberleaf42069]

is the dm jump doable on a gnome? struggling here

[@amberleaf42069]

yes you can ! when standing on the box if you aim for the left edge of then cannon you hit it everytime!

[@anthonymunoz9364]

My character is a dwarf and I wasn't able to make the jump to loop van cleef, probably the same problem for gnomes.

[@SimonizeShow]

some folks have commented that it doesn't work for certain race/body type models with slightly different hit boxes. try eating a savory deviate delight to turn into human.

Does anyone else think they reduced the drop rate on items in SoD? 16 runs for Leggings of the fang

[@Zeslaster]

Could you link the WA you are using? I can't find a simple one. Actually, link all of them, if you can! :D

[@SimonizeShow]

all ui elements are on discord. linked in description

[@Thusad]

what addon do you use for ui?

[@SimonizeShow]

all ui elements are on discord. linked in description

[@westonsutube1]

Are you amish? if so it would be pretty cool! If not, it would be cooler if you were..

[@ADDeeJay]

phase 2 gonna be crazy for rogue, a lot of bis items are blue BoEs. if people have to farm bracers in uldaman its gonna suuuuuuck.

[@SimonizeShow]

how do you know whats BIS in phase 2? i didn't think anyone knew what the gnomergan loot was yet

[@SimonizeShow]

or what any of the runes are

[@maxpowers5055]

Holding that 30+y/o horseshoe down! Wear a backwards Kangol next video! :) ❤

[@SwiftyisThemann]

The ring in sfk i feel like isnt even good you get attk power from the strength but the 3agi 3stam ring you get gives you more bang since agi gives you literally everything

[@SimonizeShow]

i'll take 7 str 3 stam over 3 agi 3 stam any day. str is 1 ap per str, agi is 1ap plus small amount of crit chance.

[@SwiftyisThemann]

@@SimonizeShow and armor and dodge and increases ranged attack power...

[@maynardewm]

Rogues: Warlocks are OP, I can't gank them, their drain life is too strong with the new rune. Also Rogues: I can solo farm all of my BIS loot.

[@evenmoredave]

What weakaura are u using?

[@SimonizeShow]

all ui elements are on discord. linked in description

[@evenmoredave]

@@SimonizeShowhmm the discord link just shows me how to download discord. im not routed to your discord server