The Secret Origin of Hordak; Mattel Toy, She Ra Enemy, Cartoon Superstar and Scorned Little Brother!

Scott Toy Guru Neitlich dives into the slightly complex but always entertaining Origin of Hec-Tor Kurr, AKA Hordak Ruthless "Leader" of the Evil Horde. His origins, his banishment, his grand plans and his death at Skeletor's hands. It's all here! Plus his scheming older brother and a look at his concept art too!
Artwork by Tom Krohne used at 4:30 mark. Awesome work Tom.

[@n_explosion8199]

I always thought the original 4 horde-members where based on classic monsters with Hordak as a vampire, Grizzlor was the werewolf, Leech the creature from the black lagoon and Mantenna, as the least "obvious", as the Fly...

[@spectorcreative1872]

I suppose that could certainly been part of the original design idea.

[@jameswrona6706]

Modulok = Frankenstein's Monster?

[@violagreene4643]

I always saw them as inspired by Skeletor and his minions: Hordak/Skeletor, Grizzlor/Beast-Man, Leech/Mer-Man, and Mantenna/Tri-Klops.

[@simonnaylor3536]

Interesting. I always saw Skeletor and his minions as Classic Monsters: Skeletor: Skeleton Evil Lyn: Classic Witch Beast Man: Werewolf/Wolfman Merman: Creature from the Black Lagoon Trap-Jaw: Frankenstein Check out The Masters of the Universe Drawing Challenge on Twitter and search Motudrawingchallenge Halloween Fritezone for some great fan art of MOTU characters as Classic Monsters ⚔️👍 Hordak: Dracula

[@19zach75]

That is a great assumption!!!

[@kalajel]

Never was a huge fan of He-Man back in the days, but watching those videos, I realize what amazing lore this show had.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Quite epic!

[@kalajel]

@@spectorcreative1872 This is the sort of lore which could spawn a good tabletop roleplaying game/wargame. Look at Warhammer 40K... Is there any He-Man RPGs out there? I mean outside the one made in the 80s...

[@yghostest]

the show itself didn't have much coherent lore lol, but the minicomics and also all the "newer" stuff are all pretty solid

[@theotakux5959]

Mattel needs to hire someone to take all these stories from the cartoons, comics, and character bios and produce a novel series.

[@spectorcreative1872]

I'm available

[@CapitanJusticia]

Or a movie series!

[@00ghostcobra]

I would definitely buy them..

[@TheUrratha]

@@CapitanJusticia really? Can you imagine what kind of pc woke garbage that would be? The age of movies is over. If you want good entertainment you can forget hollywood. It’s all just sjw propaganda. With extremely few exceptions.

[@corneilusmcgillicuddy]

@@TheUrratha Yeah, just look at what Hollywood did with The Game of Thrones. 😏

[@35TheDarkknight]

Wow, this is deep deep. I can see this surviving decades

[@spectorcreative1872]

And it keeps getting better

[@ultramegatrion]

In history class once, we were reading about the Mongol Horde and a kid yelled out...the leader is HORDAK!!!!!

[@FancyxToast]

15:17 *me, a stratos ride or die* Scott: "shes of course confronted with eternias #1 champion..." Me: "stratos" Scott: "Stratos" Me: "NO WAY" Scott: "I mean he-man" Me: *cries*

[@spectorcreative1872]

Oh boy...

[@GuTRoT-OwN]

Cool stuff. I loved the horde as a kid. they were the bad asses of the toybox

[@spectorcreative1872]

They certainly were!

[@gobucs3146]

I had the Fright Zone but none of the Horde, lol.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Well its never too late

[@gobucs3146]

@Pop-Actor (Rick) I did not have Panthor either.

[@leoalcaraz6153]

That 02 design hordak looks bad ass

[@spectorcreative1872]

Very much so. Still want a figure of that

[@johnthwaites5976]

I thought Hordak stole Adora because he knew of the prophecy that the royal twins would rise up and destroy the horde. He tried to kidnap them both but only managed to get Adora. Then instead of killing Adora he raised her as his own and shadow weaver enchanted her

[@spectorcreative1872]

That is all there as well, I just skipped some of the small details

[@unigenius]

Out here stringing all of the different stories together! Lol

[@spectorcreative1872]

It helps to have a spread sheet

[@Novusod]

These stories aren't a continuous arc. There are several different canons that are all retcons of each other. The comics have their own canon which is separate from the Filmation canon which is different from the 200x/MYP canon. Then there are other canons purely based on the toys. In the comic "Masters of Multiverse" the different canons are all acknowledged.

[@kazkk2321]

This was an interesting backstory. I am happy to have learned it. Very informative

[@spectorcreative1872]

Topic suggestions always welcome!

[@ransomwarevirus3474]

Awesome Vlog.👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Thank you.😉👍

[@spectorcreative1872]

My pleasure. Thanks for watching and the kind comment

[@garycarpenter2980]

I think that both villains are a couple of hams and they try to upstage one another. The Secret of the Sword was a great movie and the action was really great. On some of the episodes, Earth was mentioned. It's too bad they didn't try to come here only in the live action movie

[@spectorcreative1872]

Pretty typical of 80's bad guys!

[@victorclabaugh1373]

This is different than the original. I have all the he-man episodes and seen most she-ra but I guess the story has evolved over time.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Oh yes, Classics added a lot

[@gussygoro2469]

Hordak is a comedy genius.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Tip your waiters folks...

[@psibernight2177]

I would pay good money to have this all centralized in some kind of encyclopedia or main continuity.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Dark Horse has done this! Quite a few good coffee table books are out there

[@cosmiquealiene6168]

This was pretty interesting! I had no idea Hordak's OG design was inspired by a mask or that Bruce Timm drew the first comic about him. I'm a big fan of the latest iteration of Hordak and he has a completely different backstory. In this universe, Horde Prime is a cult leader as well as ruler of a massive empire and Hordak is a clone of his, who was thrown out of Prime's army for being disabled and therefore "worthless". Hordak wants to be accepted by Prime and tries to conquer Etheria by setting up a Horde army there, in the hope of impressing his "brother" and proving he isn't worthless. Scorpia, Catra and Octavia are amongst his army! Adora was raised in the Horde too, but defects after befriending Princess Glimmer of Brightmoon and her best friend Bow. Adora doesn't have a wicked cool battle suit/persona in the new one and certainly no buzzcut, though I can imagine some lesbians might wish she did. XD Adora forms the Princess Alliance with various royals in order to take down the Horde. An autistic princess named Entrapta gets accidentally left behind on a mission to the Fright Zone and Catra and Scorpia convince her to work for the Horde instead, as their technology expert. She starts working beside Hordak and finds out about his backstory and disability. She tells him not to be ashamed of his disability, having one herself, and that "imperfection is beautiful". Hordak falls in love with her and as a result, when Prime shows up again, he eventually kills his big brother to protect Entrapta, the woman who showed him he was worth something. It's such a beautiful love story! :) I'm currently reading a fanfiction in which Hordak is Prime's literal brother and it's super good, especially when they find Etheria and meet lots of other familiar characters from She Ra!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Yeah, everything in this video predates the She-Ra Netflix show which went in a different direction

[@michaelparylak5649]

I have this figure I always wondered about its origins. Thanks for making this. I recognize it as a Mattel toy related to the he-man series. However, I was not familiar with She-Ra in depth. I like that word "zombified".

[@spectorcreative1872]

With the way the rights issues are screwed up, it is confusing to all

[@Phil-D83]

They borrowed from this for the new netflix revelations series.

[@jacobanderson9262]

Hordak was also the inspiration for Marvel's/X-men's Apocalypse!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Was he now? I had not heard that but I can see it

[@jacobanderson9262]

@@spectorcreative1872 Apocalypse was a last minute replacement in X-Factor. The Owl was supposed to be the Mastermind behind Frenzy, Tower and Timeshadow. Apocalypse was also supposed to be a single use villain, but his popularity brought him back. Go figure a MOTU knock off ended up getting an amazing history.

[@19zach75]

Marvels/Xmen "Apocalypse" was inspired by the entity named "Molasar" from the horror-movie "The Keep."

[@jacobanderson9262]

Then it's possible he was the inspiration for Hordak also. Hey, 2 James Bond villains, Jaws and Tee Hee were the inspiration for Trap Jaw!

[@jacobanderson9262]

@@19zach75 cool that the keep had Magneto in it!

[@archlogan5573]

I really enjoyed this video. It some ways, this was like the larger overall storyline of MOTUC. It left me with one nagging question though! Does Horde Lord have origins outside of MOTUC? Is he something adopted from the archives, or a more recent character?

[@spectorcreative1872]

If memory serves, it was the UK comics

[@AudioAndroid]

You really should put out a "Guide to Working in the Toy Industry" Book📚, where your knowledge is broken up into Chapters. I'm new to you channel "Begins kicking himself" and I'm playing catch up on your videos, you make it easy to find the topic your looking for but I know I've missed answers to my questions that you have already answered in a previous video, I just seen a video or comments referring to "Ideas" and why toy companies don't rush in to hear everyone's ideas do to the possibility of that idea already being in the works and accidentally being accused of stealing someone's idea when in fact that wasn't the case at all" I didn't think of that and I totally see why that rule is a rule and I like how companies have a certain section just for that situation where one can speak about a idea with a toy company without being worried about the subject biting them in the long run. I think I mentioned two ideas in a couple of our comments so sorry for doing that but you have my word those two ideas are anyone's now free and I will try not to blabber to much in that topic lol" but back to the subject, just like that topic, a Guide Book where someone like myself and others could use to research topics like that would be awesome especially in this field where there aren't many and Books will always be better then a search engine especially if the power goes out. I don't think you know how important your videos are to collectors and those who have ideas 24/7, your videos are beyond informative especially knowing that you worked and had a Direct influence on a successful Toyline as with HE-MAN, so please do us all a even BIGGER FAVOR and find a publisher and get to work on your book about the In and Out's of the toy industry, if it isn't on the best sellers list after the first week of release I will personally eat Ram Mans Hat.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Oh working on it!

[@AudioAndroid]

@@spectorcreative1872 Awesome I look forward to buying it.

[@crissy4346]

I was always a Skeletor stan, but Hordak was cool too.

[@spectorcreative1872]

They do mix well

[@patrickwentzell4638]

I've thought of a good death battle idea She Ra vs Xena Warrior. there is also cross over story ideas I feel have potential to be movies or shows on television in a series. Masters Of The Universe was good a sequel was mentioned however it never happened. I believe the sequel that could have bern would have revealed Hordac and Skeletor how they knew each other. also it would have shown the separation of Prince Adam and Princess Adora. but Hordac and the origin of the Hord can be told in a new storyline. because there are secrets which have not been looked at or talked about. I have wanted to know Orcos life his past and who his people are. Shadow Weaver is another mystery like so many other characters in that world. I think Adora being taken away from her family makes a good story. it shows that Adora could have been with the Hord also opens up some new What If stories. letting us know different outcomes and not having the good heroes win all of the time we need that. if there are any more ideas I would like to read up on thoughs.

[@spectorcreative1872]

A lot of this is actually covered in issue 4 of the comics!

[@henrikschultze1668]

i love skeletor !!!

[@spectorcreative1872]

We all do

[@thetallmaninyourecloset5276]

Am I the only one who wants to see a mass battle between the forces of the horde and eternia? Like foot troops vehicles, the whole shabang?

[@spectorcreative1872]

Nope. We put that int he mini comics deliberately

[@emptycanvas79]

More videos like this...... pleassseee!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Have you seen this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4Gmpnungpp9mMU

[@RetroActionUK]

Convoluted just only starts to explain it…

[@spectorcreative1872]

And never stops

[@kazkk2321]

One of best backstories ever. Some of the names are highly lazy and I creative but never the less

[@spectorcreative1872]

Well i can't take credit for those, a lot are exisiting names from the 80s

[@royrivet1392]

what comics are shown in this video

[@spectorcreative1872]

The MOTUC mini comics issues 1-8

[@williamwilkinson381]

Could you please do one of those type videos on the Snake Men ? They were my favorite group in the He-man universe....I loved the toys but we didn't get much story about them until later series .

[@spectorcreative1872]

You got it!

[@kazkk2321]

He is the mixture of John Kramer meets the joker

[@spectorcreative1872]

And a little gengis kahn

[@ninjacrypt5795]

What if it's actually like this, that's why we don't go to space 😂🎉

[@officialtruvotru-druvevoch7049]

Keldor I mean Skeletor elder Cousin!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Not quite but I like the poetry

[@JMan1380]

What comics does this come from? I loved the Horde figures. The mini comics that came with those were great.

[@spectorcreative1872]

The mini comics that came with the MOTUC figures. One per year, except 2012 when we did 3

[@jamezjiggy4845]

Great video was always confused why hordak was in she ra but in motu you line but not the cartoon

[@spectorcreative1872]

And their you go!

[@thezabgoth7426]

Gotta ask, have the MOTUC mini comics ever been collected in a trade what can be got at retail?

[@spectorcreative1872]

Alas no. But let DC know this is something you would like to see!

[@thezabgoth7426]

@@spectorcreative1872 I hear it. May I ask what you think is the best channel by which to send a letter?

[@jeptorr]

wow

[@spectorcreative1872]

And backwards it is also wow

[@Dented_Battle_Armor]

Evil Horde is my favorite MOTU faction ever. Totally loved them and went all out to pick all of em as a kid. I also didn't managed to get Fright Zone unfortunately. I did have the rest. I also love the fact all the characters didn't use the same muscular body buck except well Hordak

[@spectorcreative1872]

Which is also why we were able to do him earlier in the Classics line, less new tooling

[@rodrickadamginsburg8960]

I was able to get them for both Hanukkah and Christmas! Christmas from my mom’s side and Hanukkah from my dad’s side

[@spectorcreative1872]

Nice! He is an all tradition kinda villain

[@rodrickadamginsburg8960]

@@spectorcreative1872 You’re in CA & I’m in NYS.... it’s speaks for itself 😗😇

[@HePrime34]

There is a He-Man Dreidel?

[@justicierodelaliga]

Masters of the Universe is the best IP that has all the amazing aspects of the sandal/fantasy/Barbarian themes with the added potential of science and magic. I can´t believe no one has been able to make this a huge franchise. Either movies or live action TV series. Not that animation is bad, the 200X series was amazing, but live action could be another Game of Thrones. By the way, ans speaking of amazing TV shows that people most not know of give a chance to Young Justice, Green Lantern: The Animated Series and The Dragon Prince.

[@mikhaelgribkov4117]

Green Lantern: The Animated Series is great and was my gateway to GL expanded lore.

[@spectorcreative1872]

One can only hope a live action will be as epic!

[@justicierodelaliga]

@@spectorcreative1872 Thing is that the mythology is SO rich that it can become a multiple films saga. Similar to Star Wars.

[@justicierodelaliga]

@@mikhaelgribkov4117 Also forgot to add to the lost the 2000´s Thundercats. Like Master of the Universe it improved upon the original. ...oh, and have to say that owning the original series, the 80´s Thundercats still hold up.

[@justicierodelaliga]

@@spectorcreative1872 I love Barbarian movies/series like Conan, Beast Master and Xena (sort of similar vibe). Thing is, I could understand that this genre is not longer popular. However, the fact that MOTU also adds science and magic makes it unique and commercially viable. ...if not, DC should decide to their own thing with Warlord. And, funny enough, I believe DC also has their "She-Ra" counterpart with Amethyst.

[@JoeMotionVideos82]

I really love the Evil Horde, Especially Hordack, he was Skeletor on steroids. Thank you for cleaning all of this up, I never fully understood the backstory.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Glad it helps put it all together!

[@robertdemon3550]

I preferred Skeletor and his evil henchmen.

[@killingragethrowback]

Don't know about the comics, but Skeletor always seems to win when up against Hordak in the Filmation series. Hordak can't ever seem to outsmart the guy. Even in the Christmas Special. And there was their one on one fight aboard Horde Prime's ship, which Skeletor won, albiet with a lot of effort.

[@HomeChallengerLilWon]

Hordak ain't fucking with Skeletor or Skelegod

[@HomeChallengerLilWon]

@Megatron Leader of The Decpticons Your right Hordak is equal to or less then greater then Skeletor and probably Skelegod remind you Hordak killed Grayskull and He - Ro. Saved Keldor and made Skeletor but as far as I know aint nobody fucking with Horde prime

[@woolicane]

Fascinating, I really love these lore videos. It's always made me laugh that a planet like etheria could be the only world we know in the dimension of despondos. We're always told how awful that dimension is, but from what we see it's actually rather nice

[@spectorcreative1872]

Glad to hear it! Please do feel free to share with others on social media. It helps the channel a ton

[@guitarguru.3572]

Yep. It’s like a 1980s fantasy movie on Etheria. Much more enticing than the war-torn Eternia.

[@mitchfletcher2386]

@@guitarguru.3572 Etheria was the one with the war.

[@guitarguru.3572]

@@mitchfletcher2386 I guess I probably should have worded that differently. I’m talking about the landscapes and visuals that contrast between the 2. In Etheria, most of what we see is a magical forest with talking trees, little old lady magicians, an archer with a mustache and a heart on his chest, and whatever Kowl is. In Eternia, there’s a lot of destruction from centuries of conflict between the forces of good and evil. The land around Castle Grayskull is in ruins.

[@jasonkowitz4598]

Wow, all the points of the storylines are coming together. I really need to get the comics and get caught up on this. Great video!!!

[@spectorcreative1872]

I do hope DC will reprint all the comics in a trade one day

[@LBDNytetrayn]

@@spectorcreative1872 I hope someone does, not being able to read up on this stuff anywhere has been killing me for years now. Even wikis and such haven't recapped things that I've seen.

[@adrionjones]

Man, that was amazing with the chronological order of events. You summed it all up very well.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Glad it was easy to understand. I was afraid with so much stuff it might get mixed up

[@tigerbread78]

So really, She-Ra actually has the more powerful arch enemy, plus Hordak has more troops, and She-ra has no Royal guard as back-up

[@greenman5229]

She does though, she has many powerful princess and has the rebel forces.

[@spectorcreative1872]

From a certain point of view, yes

[@killingragethrowback]

@@spectorcreative1872 From the way they interact, it seems Filmation intended for Skeletor to be the slightly stronger of the two in terms of personal combat ability and is the better planner, but Hordak has an army and Skeletor does not. That alone makes Hordak more dangerous. Skeletor wins their fight on Horde Prime's ship one on one, and he always outsmarts Hordak, right from the first She-ra episodes where Hordak is introduced, but Hordak can buy him in robots and he knows it.

[@BrotherDerrick3X]

@@killingragethrowback Hordak was Skeletor's mentor.

[@renereyes2648]

It’s a shame the animated series got canceled before a lot of these ideals could be realized, hopefully the NETFLIX revival can explore these ideas

[@spectorcreative1872]

I would so watch it!

[@kellerweskier7214]

He-Man line? Because She-Ra already got its revival. From what i see, its alot of rewriting of the end point, starting with the battle that throws Hordak into Atheria. But, from that point on its alternate universe stuff. Alternate Dispondose. This is where the new 2018 She-Ra came into play.

[@scthomas1982]

@@kellerweskier7214 watch it again, it's all about blossoming sexuality and very LGBT positive. I've watched the series 2.5 times with my 4 year old daughter, she loves playing Adora and being powerful!

[@easygrin1127]

@@scthomas1982 well that's cool

[@dreamawake2670]

@@easygrin1127 Puking...

[@adamsifford6228]

When I was a kid me and my friend would bring all of our masters of the universe toys to church to play with under the pews. Lol

[@spectorcreative1872]

Nice! But don't let mom see you.

[@cosmiquealiene6168]

Did you make them say, "Pew Pew!" XD

[@Billy11179]

transformers heman matchbox, and gi-Joe came to church every Sunday for quite some time... Memories...its so funny u said this!! I cant believe I was the ONLY one doing it, atleast u admitted it..lol

[@geechie-don7157]

Awesome! And I wish we had gotten resurrected Skeletor, I like that ram horn inspired head piece.

[@spectorcreative1872]

He was planned as part of a big multi media event that was canned at the last minute

[@johnmorey720]

Skeletor and Hordak are in a contest as to who can look the most intimidating but be the goofiest and least threatening in person, I swear.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Yet Megatron wins everytime

[@BaneMcDeath]

I wouldn't mind a motu, GI JOE, Transformers crossover.

[@TheCastellan]

Filmation Hordack looked more dorky than cool.

[@Fenrir72]

@@TheCastellan He was cool before Marvel's Apocalypse became relevant!

[@killingragethrowback]

@@BaneMcDeath DC did cross MOTU with Injustice.

[@David-sg9gz]

I really love the last run of Dc of Masters, there's some taste of the classic He-man mini-comics plus the comic's try to include all the history of the masters in one continuos universe. That's a lot of work! Sometimes the story seems to be so ambiucius of contents, i think, still... is a good run with the classic masters flavor.

[@spectorcreative1872]

It really was a good run and a good time. Made with love

[@LuderSatan1]

This makes think of why the new Star Wars trilogy just didnt work for me. First they introduced Snoke and Kylo Ren, who just are not as intimidating as Darth Vader and Darth Sidious. And then they tried to reintroduce Sidious. They choose poorly. Yeah, they should have scalled the threat level up, like they did in the He-man universe. What is more frightening than Skeletor? Skeletors master: Hordak. So what the New Star Wars Trilogy should have done, was either introduce a bigger extradimensional threat, that threatens both the Empire and the New Republic. Or they should have introduced a more frightening Sith than the Emperor.... like THE Sith, the first Sith. Who is an eternal. That could have been better than what we got. But then again: it would still have failed with Rey, the most perfect, and thereby uninteresting hero ever put on the silverscreen.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Well maybe it is true (the rumor) that the new SW movies will be retconned out of existence with time travel or something

[@aaronwood8012]

We can hope

[@yellowmartian]

@@spectorcreative1872 we could only hope...

[@jive238]

Hey wait you didn't get back to Hordak's blue blood when his arm got cut off, I was waiting for something to happen with that. I like MOTU lore and Hordak especially though I only ever watched the 200X series. I just found him real cool but you barely get to see him do anything, so I just developed this longing thirst for more Hordak.

[@spectorcreative1872]

You are right! On Hordak's toy bio it notes that his blood rose to the surface while on Etheria which is why he loos like he has blue skin there.

[@jive238]

@@spectorcreative1872 I wonder if that means he has poor circulation in his head which is why it's still white. Still a pretty neat idea though.

[@DevilMaster]

@@jive238 If I had to write an explanation for that, I'd write that Hordak's species evolved a thick layer of keratin over the face, for both protection and offense, which makes it feel more like a thickened toenail than human skin. That, incidentally, would make his forehead crest similar to a rhino's horn.

[@lucasbachmann]

1980s minicomic Hordak is basically the ancient warlord that he was in 200X. Those are all online. Filmation Hordak is a subtly different character as the Horde is not Ancient in Filmation - they are a galactic empire like Star Wars has. That Hordak has the most screen time. This is what makes it difficult to do Ancient Hordak and She-ra at the same time. These videos are of course the background of the ironically recent "classic line" continuity.

[@summonerstripclub4840]

Hordak’s my fave boi, I love all these toons (especially She-Ra) & the lore is so good

[@spectorcreative1872]

She-Ra was my favorite cartoon too

[@FunKorpseZombiePops]

Love Hordak, Skeletor is kinda like his apprentice, correct? Infected with technology, like-nano bot injection

[@spectorcreative1872]

A bit like that

[@FunKorpseZombiePops]

@@spectorcreative1872 black slime Instead of Black Ooze Now I want Funko to make the Anti He Man as a pop, they have the slime pit one already. It would also be cool if sometimes the two packs that include a figure and a “ride,” would sometimes have Faker paired up with Panthor as a set like the He Man and Battle Cat sets. When I was a kid I painted my Power Punch He Man blue, so I had a power punch Faker, lol :-)

[@zachariahpoltergeist4516]

The most unbelievable part of this whole tale is that Orko did something right. Also, back in 85, my sister and I submitted a ton of drawings to the Design a New Figure contest, and we ended up winning the Fright Zone!

[@spectorcreative1872]

nice! There is a video on this coming up soon!

[@Dean_K_Davis]

We need a proper live action trilogy of Masters of the Universe seriously, a serious take I'm thinking Lord Of The Rings meets Star Wars would be not only EPIC, it would be such a huge success if handled properly, why oh why havent we had this already, come on u got these huge companies that could work with Mattel to deliver this huge chance to give the fans an amazing chance to see Movies based on Eternia like the Lungdren He-man movie should of been, as a kid i enjoyed it but it was so way off what it could of been, i mean Grayskull looked terrible and it was set on earth, in fact the best thing about the film was Frank's Skeletor, thats it, so pull ur fingers out HOLLYWOOD, there is a huge IP called He-Man and the Master's of the Universe a huge world u could entertain us with...

[@hemanmmo2973]

I was trying to wrap my head around if warlock hordak is also techo hordak. Well it seems this retroactively made sense. 😊 Thanks

[@spectorcreative1872]

Classics found a way to make it all kinda work

[@RetroActionUK]

The Evil Horde is my favourite faction. All great designs and who doesn’t want a legion of Horde Troopers, Modulok and Multi-Bot? The Fright Zone is awesome too and then there’s the Slime Pit. Iconic and controversial. But great playsets none the less.

[@spectorcreative1872]

I address this in a video soon

[@christophermoody6840]

The funny part about all these He-Man videos explaining the origins and different characters and stuff is... if you watch the episode of "The Toys that made us" on Netflix that focused on He-Man... you'll see just how much they were just throwing shit at the wall to see what stuck as far as character design. All this explanation is post hoc now that geek culture is super mainstream & demands that everything have this in depth story behind it to justifyits existence. Everything has to be Tolkien or something... truth is... they were just selling plastic, it was never that deep. But I love hearing how they ended up having to piece all this stuff together into and make it into a universe. They're doing the same thing with Star Wars I feel like. What was supposed to be a fun little romp about Space Samurai and Space Cowboys/Outlaws 40 odd years ago now has to be Hamlet or something... it ain't that deep.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Oh it is definitely true, and a big reason with Classics since that was an adult collector line we wanted to use that to flesh out the story more and make it more epic

[@williamwilkinson381]

More isn't always best ...too much of some can be a bad thing... like if you over feed a gold fish it will die ..

[@nilus2k]

Warning. Do not type Hordak/Skeletor/He-man three way into a non-child safe google search

[@spectorcreative1872]

So noted.

[@crissy4346]

This is what always bugged me about the She-Ra toy line. It was so far removed from MOTU even though He-Man and She-Ra were intertwined in the cartoons. If she was good enough to kick Hordak and the Horde around in the shows, why wasn't she good enough to be in the MOTU toy line? If you looked at He-Man and She-Ra action figures from the 80s without knowing the backstory, you'd never think the characters were related. And then they gave She-Ra's archenemy to the MOTU line. I hated the "Barbie-fication" of the She-Ra dolls.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Yeah the girls group kinda took the doll and ran

[@matcam89]

Would make for great video game content

[@spectorcreative1872]

If only.

[@blackfection]

This entire story needs to be made into one big live action movie. 🎦

[@spectorcreative1872]

Make it happen Sony!

[@elextrano7597]

I was literaly doing bussines on a red area of my contry (it looks like a zonbie apocalipse) and found Origins Hordak just there... I have the big 3 now...

[@spectorcreative1872]

Nice

[@davidanderson4748]

I always felt like Hordak was disrespected from the get go and was one of the biggest mismanaged characters of the whole line. I mean, they went to all this effort to create a guy who made a guy with a skull for a face seem tame by comparison. When the commercials introduced this new ultimate evil that even frightened Skeletor, I was totally on board. So, did they take this instantly iconic design and personality and portrayed it as the ultimate evil? The biggest bad guy of all, worthy of training Skeletor and challenging both he and He-Man? Nope, he was shuffled off to fight a bunch of rooted hair dolls and a guy with a heart on his chest. But the indignity didn't stop there! No, he was quickly demoted to second banana so he could cower to Horde Prime. His henchmen, who judging by the figures, were supposed to be bizarre and terrifying were quickly reduced to comic relief. Grizzlor wasn't a terrifying beast of legend, just another idiot. Same with Leech. And Mantenna, maybe one of the most f---ed up and scary figure designs in the line was reduced to nothing more than a clown. Modulok was like something out of John Carpenter's The Thing, but spent most of his time in front of a computer console. And the disrespect didn't stop there. The 200X series was cancelled before we got to see Hordak truly arrive in his full glory. The comics mentioned in the video have him defeated by Skeletor. I mean the whole point of Hordak was that He-man had been defeating Skeletor time and again for the past couple of years and needed an adversary who really tested him. Yet Hordak was continually bested by Skeletor in just about every iteration, which torpedoed his whole reason for being. Then even the toy line quickly forgot what he was supposed to be ... introducing King Hiss as the new ultimate bad guy. All of the sudden everything was Snakemen, and the Horde was kind of forgotten. Even guys like Blast Attack, who seemed like a hoard figure, were now Snakemen figures.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Yeah, the girls group kinda, well, see here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYCyf4d3prWboLc

[@DevilMaster]

In another video, you said that He-Man and She-Ra cannot appear in media together, which is why there was no He-Man in the 2018 She-Ra cartoon. What about Hordak? Is he bound to the She-Ra universe as well?

[@spectorcreative1872]

Hordak is allowed because his toy shipped under the MOTU brand in the 80's. I know, its complicated...

[@sethputnamsghost]

Still one of my GOAT villains!🤘

[@magitek09]

Man, that was far more than I was expecting, what a huge video! Loved it!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Glad you enjoyed! Share with others, it helps the channel a ton!

[@BarryFrancis]

So Skeletor is basically Prince Adam/He-Mans Uncle.

[@firxanza5172]

that's one version of the story, that Skeletor was once Keldor, half-brother of Randor who ended up betraying Eternia, because he wasn't chosen to be king, Keldor attacked the Hall of Wisdom to obtain "the power" from the Elders, but Randor stopped him, during the fight, Keldor tried to kill Randor with an acid tonic, but Randor deflected the substance with his shield, causing it to hit Keldor in the face and melt it off, Keldor survived and escaped, he had to turn to Hordak for help and Hordak's evil magic transformed him into Skeletor in another version, Skeletor was always a "living bone man" and hails from another dimension where every one is a "walking pile of bones", but his home world was taken over by Hordak, and in order to live, Skeletor surrendered himself to Hordak and started serving him, learning dark magic along the way, but the longer he served Hordak, the more he wanted to take control, he eventually betrayed Hordak and banished him to Despondos dimensional prison, he then arrived in Eternia, a world rich with magic and tried time and time again to obtain "the power"

[@mikesurlygentlemanwalton]

it was called he- man and the masters of the universe since i was a kid and that was like in the 80's

[@spectorcreative1872]

Yup!

[@laloflores1029]

Sin duda, un muy interesante personaje, buen vídeo!!!!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Mucho Gracias!

[@chrisingram5777]

The evil horde was the only thing that made she ra watchable!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Not the outfits?

[@ExaltedMarauder]

Cool video! I hope the upcoming Netflix series does this franchise justice. I don't suspect Hordak will show up, but if the series does well we may get another season and chances are great Hordak will make an appearance there, perhaps providing the link the show would need to its sister show, She-Ra.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Me too! We need good motu content

[@cosmiquealiene6168]

That would be so cool!!!!! Unfortunately, they screwed up the licensing, so I doubt Netflix's She Ra could be connected to the new He Man. :( They're owned by different companies!

[@rolandkatsuragi]

7:39 "Who Wants to Live Forever?" Was the Queen single from the Highlander film

[@spectorcreative1872]

Likely..

[@Goldenbane]

And in the Richard Klosterman head cannon, in the end, everyone is brought back to life for one gigantic battle in which Faker emerges victorious with his new bestest buds Draego Man and Trap Jaw! Seriously though, Scott, is there any way we could get a video about Draego Man? I think he's one of the absolute coolest things ever to come out of Classics! I want to know so much more about him!

[@spectorcreative1872]

I'm going in order of release, so he isn't too far off!

[@scottandrewhutchins]

@@spectorcreative1872 I remember Fang man and Lizard Man in early Filmation episodes and how they just disappeared.

[@owenwildish331]

The He-Man series (among others) was a major childhood inspiration for my 'Power of Omegus!' sci-fi trilogy I came up (Omegus, 'Supreme Emperor of the Imperium Empire' being the most powerful villain in all existence, who battles against the heroic scientist/special agent Dr Todd Roone of the W.D.F.) I'd love to see a crossover with He-Man & She-Ra if I ever write my story and if it becomes popular, Omegus would be the greatest threat to Eternia if he discovered that world (as he would be to any world that has the power that he craves)

[@spectorcreative1872]

That is awesome. A sign of a good toy line is how much it inspires us in life

[@cinnamonbun1379]

Power of Amogus lmao

[@owenwildish331]

@@cinnamonbun1379 lol

[@AccountantProOT]

I'm a fan of MOTU, but this is too much and very confusing. I always believed that less is more, and to overcomplicate the whole mythology, ends up being way too much in the end.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Hey he can just be a evil guy with a white face if you want!

[@AccountantProOT]

@@spectorcreative1872 its not that. Its just too many this and that, and no specific substance. Its becoming as ridiculous as the Marvel multiverse. What's so hard of keeping things simple? Sometimes the simplest stories are the more enjoyable. A good example of that is the original star wars film.

[@filipvucaj2475]

9:30 Just like Hordak's Motherboard infects Skeletor with Techno-Organic Virus in MOTU Revelation Part 2 episode 5🤔.YO I immediately connected Motherboard with Hordac in Part 1 😃.

[@mizukarate]

Dear God what a weird story.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Clearly

[@_misterJ]

Thanks for putting this story together. Would be cool if the new Kevin Smith Heman picks up somewhere in this storyline.

[@spectorcreative1872]

I’d love to see that!

[@Gnomelander1400]

2002 made him such of a badass and his new design looked awesome. She-ra 2018… What a joke lol

[@305CHICOXL]

Nice. Masters of the universe revolution followed this almost perfectly. Nice to finally see this animated. So what's next? Despara vs He man, the resurrection of Hordak? Horde prime makes an entrance? Looking good story wise for season 3

[@greywolf7583]

In my opinion if Hollywood was to do a Master of the Universe live action movie 🍿 you just gave the outline of a possible story line they could create for a few movies the lore to Master of the Universe is just as large as the Star Wars Franchise. For the first movie for Masters of the Universe you don't start with He-man you start with Hordak family and the evil Horde and He-ro and King Greyskull for the the live action movie 🤔

[@supermoduleprime]

Just got my first copy of this Hordak. I dont know if I should open it but im stoked. BTW.. lol gotta love the silhouette of the Duck Trump Brothers on 8:20 for comparing brotherly luv lol 😆 that was awesome.

[@frantikcflamez]

I grew up as a kid watching , reading and collecting The Masters Of The Universe in the early 80's. Now after watching this. I'm certain MOTU can bigger than Game Of Thrones.

[@spectorcreative1872]

And more kid friendly!

[@Tommi1981]

Is Baphomet stuff this right here. Choose which side your on. Jesus or ?

[@TropicalViking0]

Hordak looks awesome... Except when the new She-Ra came out. Ugh.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Yeah, except...

[@tylerleach8796]

Pointless and dumb jab at the She-ra reboot is pointless and dumb.

[@firxanza5172]

shrug, although Hordak is more of She-Ra's nemesis, he also fought He-Man a couple of times

[@andy5866]

I love your vids scott thanks man makes my day every time we get a new one

[@spectorcreative1872]

Thrilled to hear it! Please do share with others on social media. It helps the channel a ton

[@namolokaman2393]

Love the Mattel's El Segundo building in the background of Hordak's 'Fright Zone'! ☺

[@spectorcreative1872]

Ha!

[@BARBELLSTOBUDDHAS]

Do the history of the Fright Zone(s). Especially the story of the Eternia one.

[@surtaandume_psykermystyk4010]

I always saw his design as rather vampiric. There's even the red bat motif...But a tiki mask?! I don't see it.

[@christopherarnold6686]

Thanks for explaining it better!!!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Always glad to! Tell your friends. ;-)

[@queazy03]

Waoh, these concepts are very epic!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Truly right!

[@petebutler5139]

Well, since Disney censored the word slave, how long before Mattel sensors the word, master!?!

[@jonathankerr4859]

Why do you call it the 200X series? I know it came out in 2002, so why not cal it that? Assume there is a reason.

[@dfrey7711]

Gifts on Arbor Day? Well done.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Everyone should have their own traditions to pass along

[@morisu7926]

1:00 Just like Spiderman and Venom teaming up to take down Carnage. Right?

[@Born_Stellar]

I don't know if you already have, but could you do a video or series about the entire plot of MOTU? I didn't realize it was so in depth and went so far into the future!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Check out thé gréât battles playlist!