The Secret Skill Weaving Tech Only CONTROLLERS Can Do! Casting Multiple Skills Simultaneously

[@FeuerhammerX]

I had no idea. It's good that us console players have at least one advantage. I think I've been doing this all along.

[@Snoman298]

Duuuuude this helps so much! I love Blood Surge but I noticed just the other day the spam was starting to hurt my hand. You literally saved my hand haha. Thank you!

[@zendefta]

Been doing this since S5 with Lightning Spear Sorc. I would just hold every button during Infernal Hordes lol It's great!

[@Valverde713]

Go into your settings and go to gameplay I believe and there's a drop down bar "skill toggle" and you can set all skills to toggle on/off with a single click of each skill button. Then you don't even have to hold the buttons just tap each of them once and it'll simultaneously cast every skill each times it's available off of cool down. Then when you need to stop attacking just tap each one again

[@zendefta]

@@Valverde713 does it work with controller? i cant play m+kb because of my right shoulder. i never really dabbled much with the settings since what i do works well enough, but hey i dont mind saving a couple inputs here and there!

[@Valverde713]

@zendefta yeah I play on controller open settings go to gameplay and it's labeled skill toggle behavior set it to " toggle all "

[@devinb9985]

​@Valverde713 doesn't seem to work, at least with my chain lightning build. Individual skills I can toggle but when trying to do more than one it doesn't recast

[@ImaginationOffline]

You can set your "move" button on mouse scroll wheel (up and down). Then, when you hold 2 buttons (wave and blood lance for example), you can scroll up or down, and character will cast both skills and do little step each time you scrolling. Not sure if it break some animation as controller do, but valid option to play spiritwave.

[@Orthus100]

Yup. Still have nightmares of the ridiculous bullshit that was the Hammer Crusader in D3 with that tech.

[@sonkieu-tc6ty]

easier way, buy a logitech mouse, macro both skill on 1 button . profit

[@elitontherocks68]

​@@sonkieu-tc6ty I'd add almost any mouse let's you do this as well. But that toggle free spinning scroll wheel on Logitech's is incredibly useful!

[@Da5kone001]

I can just hold w and hit skills while doing so and it works fine

[@Rustmonger]

@@sonkieu-tc6ty logitech lol as if they have a monopoly on macros

[@valentim.mp4]

Always played all of the diablos with mouse + keyboard. Tried D3 with Controller, loved it. Same with Diablo IV!

[@MacroBioBoi]

Like Subscribe! Thank you kindly

[@PainkillerDCXVI]

I play a lot of guitar and fighting games, when I started playing Diablo 4 more with the xpac man my hands started feeling it... But nowadays I know not to insist when they are tired and I decided to swap for a controller yesterday. it's very intuitive and my hands are not tired at all, hell, typing this right now is tiring my hands more than the last two hours I played with a controller, I'm a believer!

[@draega570]

so impactful it went unnoticed

[@Serriad8]

This makes more sense to why weaving in corpse explosion always felt so bad I guess

[@-Mourning-Star-]

I've always played Controller. As a console gamer that migrated to PC, controller just feels natural. And I also have carpal tunnel and I cannot imagine the dexterity hell players go through on mnk.

[@discodisco360]

I used to play on mouse and keyboard until i discovered the market is full of highend controllers and i love playing on pc with controller now, never gone back to mouse and keyboard

[@g33k13]

Haha no idea. I did notice I was doing this while on spirit born. Simply holding 4 buttons down. Now I’ve got a name for it. Thanks

[@rizrizriz]

Carpal tunnel team here. Yep controller is super legit for D4. Navigating the inventory takes some time getting used to but it's not that bad.

[@T3RRY_T3RR0R]

This makes perfect sense given how input buffers work for keyboard / mouse.

[@gorehbg4338]

Hello! I love your content, could you tell me if the thorns build is still reliable? I love that build

[@MacroBioBoi]

Not really, for the necromancer.

[@Not____Applicable]

Yeah being on console, I figured this out when I switched my main skill to right trigger and started playing claw grip like I do with shooter games. Didn’t know it was actually a thing called “skill weaving” or anything special really. Kinda crazy a majority of players though never knew.

[@matheusmterra]

On Spiritborn I literally just hold ALL buttons at the same time and the character just goes about killing everything and moving with his dashes. On the Necromancer, I hold Blood Wave and Blood Lance and Corpse Tendrils all the time too.

[@MacroBioBoi]

Playing Spiritborn on Controller is SOOO GOOD! Until you want to Soar to the closest enemy xD

[@isthisadagger9607]

​@@MacroBioBoi Or Play the evade build

[@DanS436]

To soar to the nearest enemy just let go of the left stick @MacroBioBoi

[@matheusmterra]

@@MacroBioBoi yeah, I seriously wish the team would do another pass on mobility skills controls on controller. Last time they did it they basically fixed barb's Charge and Sorc's Teleport, they are usable.

[@MacroBioBoi]

@DanS436 that just soars straight up and down. If you have input on thumb stick it soars to the furthest enemy. It's wildly disorienting.

[@Dogtorbox]

If you own the game on steam, use controller overlay to change any button/trigger to toggle and you won’t have to hold it down

[@Valverde713]

I do this on console. In fact you can set all skills to toggle and only have to hit each button once and it'll auto cast them all simultaneously

[@Dogtorbox]

@ heck yeah fellow carpal tunnel avoider! On steam, you can also bind multiple buttons to one.

[@Tyrannimarja]

Good to know there’s a name for the thing I’ve done since I was a wee lad.

[@maxmustermann3938]

I've been playing on Controller all the time. Not every skill seems to actually weave for me though, at least from memory. Cant say this for sure because this season I did the Evade build, and Evade cannot be held for auto cast, so things obviously behave differently. Edit: the target thing actually explains so much about certain things that felt weird/inconsistent for me on controller lol

[@artte88]

I see people mixing in console/platform, it's not because of that. It's controller vs keyboard+mouse and while it's more normal to use controller when playing on console and w/o fact checking I'd say it should be the same thing on any platform with 🎮 or ⌨️ +🖱️ Just trying to make it less platform this or that when it's input based.

[@MacroBioBoi]

"Mouse and Keyboard players can't do this" doesn't really fit on a thumbnail, hence the title of the video specifically refers to controller. And when the vast majority of a playerbase on a platform uses the same hardware, it's pretty fair to consider them synonymous. Outliers do not define usage of the norm.

[@artte88]

​​@@MacroBioBoiThat's very true. I wasn't actually meant it aiming for you but rather the other viewers. Seeing, pretty quick, how it started the pc or console master race thing and explaining the truth on each would have been annoying tbh. So I ended up making this xas a general thing. Only a measure of less replies while hoping it would help with the platform thing. Many people lacks(or trolls too exists ofc) a certain something that makes conclusions or ability to absorb info or a combo. I don't mean it to sound offensive, it's more how the online scene and with some more specifics of why it's like this. It's different from 10 years ago, especially what comments are like in comparison. Props for the content, I do enjoy your videos. 👍

[@spcbrass]

So now that this is out there, how long until they add GCD to all skills so we can’t animation cancel?

[@nerael]

Mac I appreciate the discussion about this on your channel, thx. I get the impression there are some bugs at play here. Why can't controls be consistent and 'fair' between both mouse and keyboard? At least when possible? I don't see a technial limitation on this on - either both setups should be able to move while casting blood surge, or neither (and properly balance around that). Feeling like i have to play mouse and keyboard then make sure to always hover my damn mouse away is insanely annoying. Likewise, players that want to benefit from holding a button to skill weave shouldn't be forced into controller. Really janky!

[@michaellui5108]

Great video

[@tonynguyen4136]

Yea, for chill playing I bring out the controller, but for pits I need the precision for my teleport skills

[@WhiteWlf-dy8fb]

The ONLY thing keeping me from using controller, is holding my basic/core doesn't move me towards the enemy. Maybe I'm just dumb and there's a setting I have to change that I missed. In which case, please hound the hell out of me. But on M&K if I'm on spiritborn and I just hold my Rake button, my character will run towards my mouse until an enemy is in range at which point it will cast Rake until its dead and then I will start moving again. But on controller if I hold Rake I just stand there and Rake the air

[@maxmustermann3938]

That's because with thumb stick based movement it would feel very strange and uncontrollable if your character just suddenly does some Autorunning on its own. It is by design.

[@Thomas-nb3xf]

MacroBoiBoi , Hi love the Content do you have a Link for the Necro build your Using ? ❤

[@MacroBioBoi]

Shadow blood wave on Maxroll.gg

[@MasterJiraiyaGamin]

I was wondering why skills felt a lot easier and efficient on controller trying to find a setting or something to make it work how it was on controller

[@anothaeasywin]

Decompose minions and blight with soulrift smooooooth

[@filipbrneman]

even if you macrospam your keyboardbuttons it is more efficient to hold it down (last season got 40 conjus with sorc by spamming 33ms and 55-60 just holding it down. Amazing that we can bind shift and get a 2nd skill autocasting.

[@randommercy9567]

It depends on the type of skills, I can’t use curse and my core skill weaving but I can do either of those and use any of my other necro abilities at the same time

[@elitontherocks68]

@@randommercy9567 it's because core skills stop movement, and curses need aiming for the most party, thats the exceptions, can only have one of those types in the weave. It's not limited by number but by the skills interaction, which is a little more limited on PC. To contrast aimed skills aren't an issue on controller thanks to "auto" targeting.

[@PalicoDonFlufflesVods]

I skill weve on all my classes I run cept when I'm doing something specific. On spirit born before they fixed the evade cancel I was literally pressing L2 (evade remap), and then just holding every other skikk except counterstance which I would only tap when I needed to use ultimate since it stopped you from dodging. I do the same thing on new spirit born just it's kinda boring since all the builds don't come close to quill volley, so the enjoyment of theory crafting is gone out the window. I also like you play on PC with a controller, because I started to show early signs of carpal tunnel and figured I would stop that before it got way to bad.

[@badsector775]

I use mouse wheel up and down for force move with with my Blood Surge build and it can simulate the same thing as WASD movement trick.

[@MacroBioBoi]

Ooooh very interesting!

[@kable84]

Last season sorc u jist had thumb on x and square, right finger holding in r1. Permal ice shield, casing lightning spear and frozen orb. Every build jas a version of this pretty much.

[@guzacon]

Thanks! I play SpiritWave, is there a way for me to keep on moving while I hold down the buttons to do my rotation using a controller? I mean like stutter steps? If I hold down the buttons, my character stands still even if I move the stick, I manage to move only if I stop holding the buttons.

[@MacroBioBoi]

No, they're both missile skills, you have to manually stutter step by pressing and releasing inputs.

[@derfloh8986]

Was movement plus empty klick is a very old tech from d2 hammerdin kind of

[@DiEoxidE]

🔥

[@PatrickSandy78]

I told mouse and keyboard to get off my yard years ago.

[@elitontherocks68]

I've know about and been weaving on mouse and keyboard since S1, I saw a video talking about in S2 when druid poison dashing builds were being tested. Maybe its just the people I play with but the first thing we do in diablo games on pc is split apart the attack/move/interact actions to different keys. Dont get me wrong glad for more people to know about it, but it wasnt a secret and the click bait tilte/intro is very annoying.

[@elitontherocks68]

Note corpse tendrils is an aimed skill that why it won't weave on mouse and keyboard

[@Haltedboy]

You don't need to rebind skills from your mouse to do this, I was doing this last season on my frozen orb sorc by holding my force stop (shift by default) and any buttons associated to the skills I want to cast instantly (Orb, LS, Ice blades, Unstable, Ice Armor). I thought this was well known.

[@elitontherocks68]

@@Haltedboy good to know that works too, moving it off mouse or more specifically separating out attack from move to separate buttons made it so I didn't need to hold shift.

[@rossmonasweebro]

The. WHAT. Ok, but what other keys can do this on keyboard? Cause I use shift for my potions and if it's a case of the way certain keys interact with the game client, can we modify a config somewhere to allow ALL keys to work that way? So that they are a status rather than a falling edge event?

[@elitontherocks68]

It less about the key and more about the skill, as long as you move skills off the mouse. What actually limits it is if the skill stops movement at all(even a tiny little jitter like blood surge does), or it needs aiming.

[@rossmonasweebro]

@elitontherocks68 Hrmm... I was hopi g this woukd simplify builds thay have multiple cooldowns that get spammed, cause I did two of them last season and it was kinda annoying drumming on the keyboard and knowing that they still weren't casting efficiently

[@elitontherocks68]

@@rossmonasweebro forgot to mention, in Diablos settings there's an option to set most skill to toggle rather than hold/spam, that might help you out a bit of your lucky with the skills that work with it.

[@rossmonasweebro]

@elitontherocks68 I will check that out, ty

[@CEOofTunneling]

we need autocast like in Lineage 2. or skill attachment like reinforcment does. i am tired of breaking my keyboard on sorc

[@elitontherocks68]

Some skills can be set to auto cast in the options, change the skills option from hold to toggle for all skills then just try em out to see which one work as toggles.

[@CEOofTunneling]

@@elitontherocks68 its not what i mean. i mean we press right click on skill bar to anable autocast on cd. thats it

[@elitontherocks68]

@CEOofTunneling that's what the toggle option does, it's in the settings some place, but instead of right clicking the skill bar, tap the skills button once to turn it on. Down fall is not all skills can be used with toggle

[@elitontherocks68]

@@CEOofTunneling don't take that as me saying it's perfectly, it definitely a little jank and workaroundie, but something people could try as we all blast the feedback page for a true full auto cast.

[@ThijsSchrijnemakers]

thanks

[@CourtJustCourt]

I use a controller on my PC and do it all the time.

[@caseystrong9582]

Delete this please before they nerf this like they did the evade animation cancel. Honestly. I don't want them nerfing every cool thing that we utilize.

[@fishingboatproceeded9845]

I cannot use a gamepad to play, my brain just doesn't understand it. Which doesn't make any sense cause I started gaming on one, but I switched to PC when I was young and haven't been able to use a gamepad since

[@damis2205]

Można prosić o link do builda z filmiku

[@hellbentcentaur]

Controller for Diablo is still weird

[@MacroBioBoi]

It's the best... Except for mobility skills.

[@anonsidious358]

You can also emulate all of this with macros. I can play with one hand just using my naga mouse. great video thank you. Going to try out my controller and see the difference

[@MakeItRain420ify]

Bro going to get us nerfed on console

[@quitwastinmytime]

Unless you are playing Sorc which will disable your cooldowns until you release the other ones. Typical Sorc shadow-nerfing from Blizz and it just feels terrible after playing Spiritborn. I wonder if these keyboard tricks can get around that, which would actually make it better than controller.

[@XRaidenXxX]

It's not disabling them, it's hard to explain in text but there are certain skills I consider "sticky" skills. You see , every skill in the game interacts with each button differently on controller and sometimes they even interact differently together. Some skills I've noticed that work this way are scourge for SB , Iron skin for the barb and several of the sorc skills. Each one has a work around but you would have to tell me what skill specifically for me to be able to help. As an example I can tell you iron skin I put it on a trigger button and then put a core skill on a face button and the interaction caused them to cast back and forth where as if I had iron skin on a face button it became "sticky". Also certain moves will hold you in place if not used ALONG WITH another skill. Scourge actually has this issue as well which causes the quill build to become stuck if you just hold it down where as with the evade build you can just hold it down because your also weaving in counterattack wich is what i call a unsticky skill. Sorry for the book but it's complicated asf. Anyone who has any questions about how to make skills weave better feel free to hit me up I've got like 3000 hours wasted just testing this exact thing because character feel and smoothness matter more to me than anything when I'm grinding hundreds of hours.

[@SuperJByrd]

When did playing games become how efficient you can be instead of how much fun you can have? Tired of all these tryhards making the game all about efficiency and not about just having fun. Not sure if they realize most of us don’t play games as a job like they do. I play them to relax and have fun. They need to stop pushing this efficiency crap and just play the game.

[@MacroBioBoi]

I'm gonna let you in on a secret. ARPGs, specifically slooters, attract people who Enjoy Efficiency. I'm sorry how you enjoy the game isn't how they enjoy the game. But the logical conclusion of your statement should lead you to the perspective that will bring you peace. Gl.

[@rahimelshebani9013]

im PC Player never played with Keyboard LOL

[@Poolnoodlex]

I didnt even consider this to be a thing wtf is going on

[@Pseudophonist]

Why is 'expected performance' in this game based on bugs? It's just bugs all the way down...

[@MacroBioBoi]

This isn't bugs though. This is functioning as designed.

[@lbonvillain-wm4ds]

bro rlly said fuq D2R

[@Stefiou974]

YEP

[@hodnesnomon]

actually pc players can skill weave as well. It's just not using right click for this.

[@JuanHughJorgan]

Hmm Spiritborn evade build = animation canceling. Necro = Skill weaving. Yeah, both are the same and it has been in the game since launch. Seems this needs to be fixed on all classes. And yes, I fully agree that the evade build at season 6 launch had to go as it was crashing people's games. But not good to take away something that every other class has. All animation canceling actions are bad for the server.

[@NickLamott]

This the precise thing I hate about ESO.

[@Thorben85]

I use mouse macros on the computer and spam my skills. This works very well and each build becomes a 1 button build 😅

[@yowza2404]

Animation cancel

[@vampiregoat69]

make a macro for your mouse problem solved

[@MacroBioBoi]

Cheating is always an option, yes.

[@vampiregoat69]

PC users=connect controller problems solved. THIS NEEDS TO BE BANNED it gives controller users advantage over PC users. SOUND familiar people who bitch about spiritborn being broken?

[@MacroBioBoi]

What hypothetical person are you pretend yelling at right now? How'd you make this about the spiritborn xD

[@filipbrneman]

Or wasd it

[@sarparker5362]

He's lying for clicks, PC players have been doing this since forever

[@MacroBioBoi]

Try it

[@sarparker5362]

@@MacroBioBoi dude, im doing it right now, on PC.

[@MacroBioBoi]

@@sarparker5362 you're holding down three inputs and they are all cycling without you spamming them (on keyboard and mouse*)? Share your wisdom with the world.

[@sarparker5362]

@@MacroBioBoi I'd realy rather not when you're clearly being sarcastic. Do you really think PC players control options are limited? I can just plug in a controller and do the same thing if I wanted to, but I don't because I have other options. Heck I use a drivers footpedal from a driving game controller set to dodge if I want to. Customisation options for controls on PC are almost endless.

[@MacroBioBoi]

@@sarparker5362 I'm not being sarcastic. You can't physically do this on mouse and keyboard but you're claiming that you currently are. Idk how we got here. Edit: if you watch the video I doing this on PC but with a controller. I'm very aware. But PC here is synonymous with controller because the majority of PC players aren't using one. "Mouse and keyboard players" is a bit long for a thumbnail but read the title of the video.

[@cod-the-creator]

I don't think this would get you banned, but this is clearly an exploit. In that obviously the devs don't intend for players to hold down skill buttons to cast those spells constantly. This does make it make way more sense watching your boen spirit + whatever gameplay. I was always confused watching your inputs how you were casting anything.

[@goatautarch8223]

this is an arpg, the less you push button the better; if the devs "intend" for players to hit 2 keys +500 times each minute, they dont understand the arpg genre; no one is going to do that for hours, poe realized that and to make potion scripts etc unnecesary they added craftable triggers to potions ffs. People play arpgs half sober, and you cant force people to do otherwise.

[@visitor55555]

Yup... We allow "PC is the master race" because it keeps them quiet but I've used controller and keyboard for decades of games and the controller is WAY better...

[@elitontherocks68]

Mouse and keyboard players have been doing this since season one, it wasn't a secret. First thing anyone will tell you is split off your movement/interact key from attack.

[@rasa4512]

Wait pc not master race now?

[@artte88]

More that w/o 3rd or possibly weird bindings it's controller mr instead of kb/m. Platform isn't why this is the way it is. MBB is using controller on PC. I'm kind of leaning towards joke/sarcasm from OP but still felt like throwing in some facts.

[@sarparker5362]

You do know controllers work on PC, right?

[@KpopApocalypse]

He clearly says he plays on PC with a controller because he has carpal tunnel.

[@Eternal_Genin]

Controller players can’t aim most skills but oh well

[@Amaqse]

Who the fc cares? If u could use 3 basic skills at once, that yeah, that would be a story

[@MacroBioBoi]

Wild energy.

[@randomly-genrated]

Wait until people discover macros lol. Sounds like for this game you need to emulate a controller because the game is coded poorly.

[@MacroBioBoi]

Well macros are against TOS obvi.

[@randomly-genrated]

@@MacroBioBoi which I will break every time if it's the only way to input controls into someone's game correctly.