The Secret War_4_If_complete

Part 4 of a meticulously made series from the Beeb Beeb Ceeb of seven episodes now uploaded here as an all in one files
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This episode showcases certain inventions which either never became operational, or their deployment was significantly delayed, therefore leaving one only to imagine what could have happened 'if' certain developments had become into widespread use.
It features many inventions such as the Messerschmitt Me 321 and Messerschmitt Me323, various contraptions intended to help the Invasion of Normandy including the
Panjandrum and PLUTO the Bachstelz autogyro, early helicopters, British and German Bouncing bombs developments, the Henschel Hs 293, the the Messerschmitt Me163 and Jet airraft developments such as the Gloster E28/39 Messerschmitt Me 262 and Gloster Meteor.
Interviewees include Hanna Reitsch Adolph Galland Frank Whittle Stanley Hooker Albert Speer

[@rodthomas3050]

I really liked the lady German pilot, you can tell she was very enthusiastic about her job back then.

[@hypergolic8468]

Hanna Reitsch was a highly regarded test pilot. Eric "Winkle" Brown (flew more types of plane than anyone probably ever will) meet her pre war and post war and really rated her.

[@craigwall9536]

@@hypergolic8468 I met her years back when the Smirnoff Sailplane Derby was flown across America. All sailplane pilots like me know about her. She was an un-apologetic Nazi even then. Eric Brown sure as hell wasn't the only one who hated her. She was a tiny little _monster._

[@hypergolic8468]

@@craigwall9536 That's quite something to have met her, but then it was the love of flying that came above all else by all accounts. And yes she was an unapologetic Nazi, which is scary after seeing what they did. But without doubt the generation of German pilots trained on gliders used the air to it's maximum by all accounts.

[@dipling.pitzler7650]

@@craigwall9536 She was a dedicated brave pilot thrown into war by her Government just like any American or Brit were during wars their Leaders started .Read her Biography if you want to know more.If you are searching for a "monster" then I would suggest looking else were.

[@petercumpson6867]

@@dipling.pitzler7650 If you use your extraordinary skills and abilities in the service of an evil regime, you become a monster

[@jjsmallpiece9234]

From a time when documentaries were made properly. Original people interviewed, Not scared to be 'technical;. No dumb CGI, no repeating the points of the topics every 10minutes to cater for people with short spans of attention.

[@BLACKTHUMB01]

I agree with all of your statements, take it easy though on Yanks like myself who grew up watching and enjoying these types of documentaries.

[@jjsmallpiece9234]

@@BLACKTHUMB01 Comment edited.

[@andreinarangel6227]

"repeating....every 10 minutes". Amen.

[@mjstow]

I agree 100%. Where's the dramatic music?... the over-dramatic (and often inaccurate) narration?.... where's the required celebrity? Modern documentaries are often almost unwatchable for me, so I find myself returning to great ones like this. TV companies could return to making quality documentaries where the focus is on the subject, not on pathetic attempts to dramatize and keep our attention. Unfortunately we are in the age of the dumb and dramatic.

[@chrisst8922]

Today the technical points would go in a podcast or be disregarded. The programme would seek to connect with relatives and would seek to engage a wider cross section of society. There's few female friendly themes here or passages to encourage a racial and socially diverse culture.

[@allandavis8201]

It doesn’t matter how many “IFs, BUTs or ANDs” you throw into the “History” of WWII, and it was a two way street, you could say exactly the same about allied leadership, History is just that HISTORY, nothing more nothing less, hindsight is a wonderful thing. Hannah Reich WAS one of my heroes when I was younger, however, after learning about her actual beliefs surrounding the Nazis, primarily because she supported Hitler as any other of his sycophantic followers, even volunteering for the Nazi version of the kamikaze Corp, so, in my opinion, she went from one of the most respected pilots ever, to just another mindless Nazi lunatic. Major Hobart’s “funnies”, as they became known, were a huge benefit to the allied invasion of mainland Europe, and, and in particular, the flail tank, went on to influence the military from its inception right up to our modern versions of the flail used for the exact same purpose as its predecessor.

[@philbydoodle6199]

Thanks for posting this.classic doco

[@nobodyknows3180]

Great series! I plan to subscribe and watch them all!!! Thank you!

[@20chocsaday]

I have seen the one-man stretcher in colourful plastic on Spanish beaches for use by the Lifeguards.

[@angelsaltamontes7336]

I LOVE failure!! I LOVE alternate history!! I LOVE simple twists of fate!!

[@stuart.8273]

Apart from being incredibly interesting, at times its almost like listening to a Monty Python trailer. Terrific stuff.

[@m9078jk3]

Yes the narrator (William Woolard) talks like someone in the Monty Python skits I noticed that as well.

[@diggLincoln]

This I’d pure awesomeness

[@PeteCswampy]

very intersting, great series

[@markvolker1145]

I can see how the term "British bumbling" came about. It's apparent the Germans had the better ideas and designs. If they had those products on hand, and known how to use them, well, the Soviet Union would not had celebrated its 25 anniversary!

[@chrisst8922]

The Germans aimed too high. Say you have three designs: The best one will never be achieved, too demanding of resources, its technology will never make it out of the laboratory. The second best will make it into operational service eventually, too late though to make a difference. That's like the V2. The third best is the one that's worth persuing. It'll arrive on time and will just about do the job although it'll be obsolete imeadiately. That's like Chain Home, complete just in time to avoid the need for the RAF to make standing patrols. This principal was one of the Three Steps To Victory described By Robert Watson-Watt in his book of the same title.

[@argr]

Probably you would not have been born or speak German now.

[@HistoricAeroEngines]

One of the best series about the technical aspects of the war, the BBC has ever produced.

[@DaveSCameron]

If only Yutube stopped banning and censoring such fare here in England where it hails hey...

[@chrisst8922]

@@DaveSCameron As with Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy and Smiley's People.

[@ronbishop1068]

Thank you for uploading these wonderful documentaries!

[@alexwilliamson1486]

Galland and Whittle talking in the same program....nuff said.....

[@rblibit]

Intellectual documentaries for intellectuals. What a nice concept.

[@magicwandfour]

The colour footage at 40.27 is from actual combat that was shot for the film Memphis Belle that was directed by William Wyler and released in 1944. The commentary however was recorded by the crew in Hollywood during a war bond tour after they completed their 25 missions. Initially excited by Hollywood ,the crew were very soon fed up and bored by their stay in Tinseltown.

[@nickhanlon9331]

Hanna Reitsch committed suicide two years after this series was made. She was rumoured to have used the cyanude tablets given to her by Hitler but I doubt the potency would have stayed that long.

[@freakr84]

Not true

[@ADHDX20]

The last statement by the german guy was a lie.They tried to make the A bomb.That's why there's a movie called " The Heroes Of Telemark"

[@gyrogearloose1345]

Whoa X20! Are you really saying we should interpret history by what we might see at the cinema?

[@ADHDX20]

@@gyrogearloose1345 Based on a true ,well documented story.Do you even google ?

[@gyrogearloose1345]

@@ADHDX20 Yes but professor they didn't even have a cyclotron, no but as well story.do ! Thank you for your utmost googles, but must try harder . . .

[@argr]

You still beleave Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse were real, than continue watching these stupid movies and stop watching these documentaries. They are not made for uneducated children. By the way, that German guy is Albert Speer, Reichsminister of Armaments and War Production.

[@melvillesperryn9268]

The Ferman Post Office had a nuclear reactor. However, Hitler refused to develop the atom bombs on moral grounds ##?(it was thought that detonating an A-bomb might set off all the hydrogen and oxygen in the atmosphere and destroy all life on earth.) They did have a supply of radioactives which they sent to Japan by submarine at the end of the war. By the way, the gury in charge of the post office was Professor Ohnesorge - translates to 'no worries'.

[@markrowland1366]

PLUTO, petrol line under the ocean, was some seven pipes. Steel rolled around a great floating reel. Several were of reinforced rubber. About half went to Calis. The Americans complained it delivered only some seventeen percent of the fuel used.

[@johnpotter4750]

I suppose over-pressure from the famous Ice Cream Parlour Pump Head, into a small collection of pipes was the main limitation (lack of rubber supply), especially since the American Army lost their Mulberry Harbour in a bit of a Channel breeze (should have grouped them on eastern bridgeheads, plus Cherberg's total wreckage when they got there).

[@chrisst8922]

I love the way Woollard introduces this one by stopping the familiar intro and speaking to us from the studio.

[@pdunderhill]

He's speaking from a film cutting room, thats a Steenbeck in front of him

[@wackadakka3134]

25:36 Constance Babbington -Smith ...........naturally .

[@aebirkbeck2693]

imagine if her name was Ethel Gribbledyke :>)

[@wackadakka3134]

@@aebirkbeck2693 ay lad ....or Doris Postlethwaite

[@aebirkbeck2693]

@@wackadakka3134 :>)

[@KazenoniKakuremi]

14:17 *LMFAO* 15:16 *LMFAO* (I literally had a spit take...that was hilarious...sublimely delivered british dry humor) 16:33 *LMFAO* 25:00 Whoa! We use that method today, in our TOW ("Tube-launched, Optically tracked, Wire-guided") anti-tank missiles

[@mbr5742]

TOW or MILAN (I trained as a MILAN gunner in the 80s) are different. They are SACLOS (semi automatic control line of sight) missiles. You keep the crosshairs on the target and the "computer" in the fire control unit sees the flare and computes the steereing commands. So I only have to observe the target and some systems (IIRC Sagger) even can seperate missile launcher and fire control. Healthy since the starting engine in most older ATGM leave rather "visible" dust clouds (TRIGAT etc. have a cold launch system) that strangely attract coax fire... The Henschel (and some early ATGM like SS10 or Cobra) where MACLOS (manual control line of sight), basically remote operated aircraft where the operator had to see both target and flare and do the "computation" in his head and fly the missile to the target.

[@327409427]

UTUBE PRACTICES AGGRESSIVE CENSORSHIP

[@laurencemaddock1118]

Remember this series first time it was shown, a real documentary

[@mariafelices8000]

Brilliant stuff I've never seen before mark shaddock 61

[@DaveSCameron]

Why does yutube ban the other episodes?

[@markrowland1366]

Helecopters were in production by Germany during WW2. The biggest was flown by an experienced piolet covering three hundred miles over land and a hundred over sea. It crashed soon after. The recovery of Mussolini had three helicopters assigned but all were being repaired on the day. Germany flew helicopters between the wars and had developed many, several produced but most stopped by fixed wing bombers destroying factories

[@whiteonggoy7009]

As a boy I remember seeing Pluto near sandwich kent

[@fredlavenuta5857]

Victory has a thousand fathers, defeat is an orphan.

[@davidtrindle6473]

Nazi’s were orphaned when hitler blew his brains out.

[@ClickClack_Bam]

@@davidtrindle6473 Time has a funny effect on things. In America, right now in 2021, the left liberal democrat politicians & voters are doing exactly what Hitler did in the beginnings of his career. Gun control. Voting corruption. Censorship. Race & religious based propaganda. Forced medical procedures. Paper checks. (vaccine passports) In fact many who witnessed what Hitler did are saying it's a perfect flashback to what he did regarding what the left in America is doing. Butb my friend, you'll already know this if you've got even half a brain as it's been in the wide open what they've been up to.

[@acamus36]

Really enjoyed that. I thought I new it all. Rude awakening! Well done for uploading.

[@hectorkeezy1499]

When you listen to Speer and Galland, it’s pretty obvious that Hitler lost the War all by himself. Lucky for us all.

[@3gunslingers]

Yeah, blame the dead guy...

[@captaingenius-o1c]

@@argr Trump, Trump, Trump.....Biden has dementia, enough said...

[@rogerknights857]

Too bad that auto gyros weren’t employed early in the war on convoys and US submarines.

[@brianperry]

Love the intro music....Pictures at an Exhibition..

[@Gribbo9999]

16:29 hagile.. a nutty retro-rocket plan that a mere 70 years later was put into successful operation ( on Mars!)

[@russix009]

And now... For something completely different...

[@daffyduk77]

Shame they didn't cover Fritz-X, an impressive development

[@pressureworks]

No coverage of The Killer Joke ?????

[@mikebazor4466]

I really appreciate the dry British humor.

[@jf7243]

... the cheery looking crew looking on, were presumably not those about the embark!

[@flimsyjimnz]

Hydrogen peroxide a propellant? -My mum used to call it magic water!

[@20chocsaday]

Also used as the oxidiser Japanese Type 91 torpedoes.

[@davidtrindle6473]

Anything the Nazi’s might have come up with would have been dealth with swiftly by the much more resource rich allies. Nazi’s were out of men, fuel, pilots, planes, etc The war was really over in 1943-44

[@Ubique2927]

Why didn't the air forces take out the flak positions first as they do now? Simultaneous raids on airfields and anti-air positions and the actual raid

[@hint0122]

It would have been impossible to go after the positions.

[@louisvanrijn3964]

12:36... Engine 4 is not working... Das beste 5 motorige flugzeug der Welt. (The best 5 engined plane in the world)

[@Ubique2927]

If the ME262 had come earlier I suspect that the Meteor/Gloucester would have also.

[@allangibson2408]

The Me262 was delayed by engine manufacturing problems. Gloster had similar problems but overcame them earlier. The first allied jet fighter used over Europe was however the Lockheed P-80 that followed the Bell P-59 into production.

[@troo_story]

@@allangibson2408 "Gloucester"

[@allangibson2408]

@@troo_story The company was called Gloster and was located in Gloucester. The changed the name because the clients kept mispronouncing it. They were also unusual in never building a piston engine monoplane aircraft.

[@stevelindstedt8858]

Excellent footage.

[@tomtd]

You have to laugh “towed by his personal tank” no chance of being too reluctant on the discharge ramp was there.

[@jf7243]

...the fuel was highly inflammable when it came into contact with anything organic and was capable spontaneous combustion; that of course included the pilot.

[@sleeperawake9818]

16:34 Hilarious! I hope that was an unmanned test run.

[@garywheeler7039]

I bet the sound effect was dubbed in, but still very well done! Boing! lol

[@rd468magnum]

Hanna was correct !

[@bennylofgren3208]

"Kurt, like Hi-ball, never bounced in anger." The commentary in this episode is hilarious.

[@MrDaiseymay]

ONLY TO THOSE WITH THE BRAIN SIZE OF A ANTS DICK

[@KazenoniKakuremi]

14:17 *LMFAO* 15:16 *LMFAO* (I literally had a spit take...that was hilarious...sublimely delivered british dry humor)

[@garystaudinger9034]

Actually gigantz was indeed outshadowed. by modern modern ac. Eg: 140 tons (280000 lbs ) vs a B747 over 985,000 lbs. an A380 over 1,265,000 lbs and an Antonio’s An225 Mriya over 1,411,000 lbs.

[@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684]

What a genius you are.

[@garystaudinger9034]

Indeed “if” more 262 S were available or “if” Nazi development of Atomic weapon was not ended by destruction of heavy water facilities in Norway and by Hitler’s mistrust of Einstein’s theories due to fanatical hatred of Jews it would have meant the Nazis would have indeed done much more damage in Britain but either or both of these advancements ignore massive advantage US and USSR enjoyed in men, material, fuel, weaponry development, sheer geographic size, and every other factor.

[@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684]

If my aunt had a pair of balls she'd be my uncle.

[@iskrajackal9049]

Der Giant - reducing carbon footprint since 1935 lol

[@weldon4392]

shame the others have been took down from you tube

[@chrisst8922]

@@HeaanLasai The trouble is though that, unless I'm mistaken we can't discuss them on dailymotion. All this in the country they were made. I'm prepared to bet that I could watch them in the US for example. The result is, in their desire to protect their material (which just gathers dust and is never shown) is that the facts are forgotten and the part played by science in winning the second World War is forgotten. And then someone's surprised when people don't believe the science behind coronavirus for example.

[@weatherphobia]

WOW I never saw these DOC's B4.. Where can u get the whole series? 4 free of course..

[@ImGoingSupersonic]

How come this is called the secret war?

[@mjstow]

'All this stuff was secret for 30 years after the war. In 1975 it was released. Before '75 no-one had heard of Bletchley Park. All this stuff was a complete surprise to people watching it in the 70s.

[@JeffreyOrnstein]

Very good, thanks.

[@dano4572]

absolutely beautiful videos!!!!

[@garywheeler7039]

Sounds like Rolls Royce did a great job. Would have been greater if they had gotten into the jet engine business a little earlier. Seems that a reputation for excellence in every detail, has a part to play in jet engine construction. Well done.

[@hellboundrubber4448]

The Red Tails deserve a lot of credit for taking down the Luftwaffe. They wanted no part of the Red Tails. A lot of them fled as soon as they saw the Squadron. Even up to the M262's. They said, "we flew at a very slow speed in order to time the fast moving jets". The Jet program ended because the Nazis were whittled down to teenage pilots.

[@KB4QAA]

HR: No. The Jet program was limited largely by fuel availibility.

[@hellboundrubber4448]

@@KB4QAA The Nazis ran out of everything, Fuel, People, and places to hide.

[@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684]

nonsense.

[@hellboundrubber4448]

@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 Joke from WW2, "If you see Silver planes in the air they're Americans, if you see Green planes they're British. If you don't see any planes in the air? It's the Luftwaffe. hahahaha.

[@andrewmcphee8965]

Very interesting, thank you.

[@MrLarryC11]

Outstanding! Excellent interviews and film of extremely obscure weapons as well as better-known ones.

[@godfreecharlie]

The British could have brought an end to the whole affair right after the war began. Assigning Generals Douglas Haig and Prima Donna Bernard Montgomery to prosecute the war would have been a master stroke by Chamberlain. Could've wrapped it up in a week or so. With the assortment of highly technical wizardry being deployed maybe sooner?

[@mookie2637]

Are you joking? Haig (who was not without fault as a commander, to put it mildly) died in 1928. Montgomery (also not without fault) was only a Divisional commander in 1939.

[@johnpotter4750]

@@mookie2637 The Boffins came later from all walk of life, and Hobarts Funnies, poo, pooed by American Army only used the 'few' ampib tank launched (without reading the instructions), their Infantry to 'always' reap glory in a frontal attack ! ! Corrections: they did ask for a squadron of Crabs - to use against old french east coast earth-ringed & moated fort 'well, orders are orders' (did take 12-15 prisoners with a pistol & bluff on bailing out of a tank)

[@mookie2637]

@@johnpotter4750 Not disagreeing with you there. Just disagreeing with the profoundly uninformed Mr Franz.

[@johnpotter4750]

@@mookie2637 :- )

[@PibrochPonder]

Dunkirk?

[@JamesLaserpimpWalsh]

Fantastic stuff. Most of this footage has been lost to the sands of time so to see it in the 2020s is brilliant. Well done for uploading this and effectively archiving it. I'm not sure how to feel about Hannah Reich. She was one hell of a pilot. She could bloody fly anything and she was utterly fearless. Problem is it's hard to admire someone with such shockingly cruel nazi ideals. She stayed a committed nazi even after the war apparantly..

[@stanbest3743]

and was a for a few days commander of the Luftwaffe. It had been destroyed by then but to quote Melanie "done allright for a girl".

[@superbock666]

Hanna Reitsch is Ace. Reminds me of Sabine Schmitz.

[@adrienpinard8619]

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[@kimanipatrick]

OMG, i love that lady pilot...

[@MrDaiseymay]

+Patrick Kimani She was brave---but NUT's and evil. Even at this time of filming, long after the war, she was a Hitler lover and staunch NAZI.

[@gowdsake7103]

I would say seriously weird

[@brianparkinson2912]

she like Hitler are like many people today are nutty like trumph

[@magicwandfour]

She famously flew a light aircraft into Berlin in late April 1945 after it was cut off by the Red Army and landed on a makeshift runway in the Teirgarten to rescue Hitler. Hitler refused to leave but ordered her to fly out again with her lover, von Greim, who Hitler had appointed to take over the Luftwaffe from the disgraced Goring . She flew another light aircraft out, taking off from the same improvised runway. It is alleged that the Russian gunners were so surprised that they did not open fire. This incident gave rise to many theories and fictional novels that Hitler had escaped on this last flight out of the city.

[@88njtrigg88]

@@MrDaiseymay Oh.. my. Thanks for the heads-up.

[@lisacatkin6910]

its too bad Germany did not win against the 4 empires - just look at Europe today LOL going Islamic are we ? I say, jolly good show ! fools

[@1Sniperman]

Lisa Catkin you like to go to other people country and shit there,but you don't like them to come here and shit back at your doorstep?

[@kerengilfoyle-mcgroarty3365]

Lisa Catkin - is your real name Frau Eva von Braun-Hitler? Bit of a Nazi fan, clearly!

[@peer6038]

Lisa Catkin You are absolutely right

[@peterhenman2662]

@@peer6038 no she's not.

[@alban1959]

You are clearly of subhuman intelligence. You must be religious.